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Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread Podcast. Dan

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and JJ here in week two. We are on football Sunday.

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The Buffalo Bills will be facing the New York

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Jets in New Jersey, their home, because they're

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the New Jersey Jets. The Jets are 0 -1, having

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lost to the Steelers last week. And the Bills

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are 1 -0, of course, having miraculously come

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back against the Ravens, after the Ravens pretty

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soundly trounced them for three and a half quarters.

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Dan? Where, where's your heart at today? Uh,

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my heart is full of anxiety about this game,

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JJ, you know, and, and I think last week is the

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epitome of how football goes. I would, I would

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argue that the Jets played a better, more sound

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overall game and week one across four quarters

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and they got the L. The Bills put it together

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for one out of four quarters and they got the

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W. That's how football goes. And JJ, I think

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regardless of records, there are some things.

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on paper that the Jets have some clear advantages

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against the Bills this week. And we have not

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been able to say that in quite a few years. So

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I'm excited to get into this one. A little anxious

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to get into this one. I think it's going to be

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a tougher game than most people expect. Yeah,

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I think that the things that kind of turned the

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Bills defense inside out last week are the same

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things the Jets did against the Steelers. And

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the Bills can expect some heavy zone running.

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They can expect some kind of play action passing.

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It's all on the table there. And I'm sure that

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this is a copycat league. The Jets did not look

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at that Ravens film and say, oh, we're not going

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to try any of that, right? No, they're going

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to try every of that. And I think that as you're

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talking about the way that Bill's won last week,

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I think The thing that came to mind for me was

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that it was like the procrastination victory

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of the universe, right? They were like, let's

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put off playing a complete football game until

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there is no time, but we have to play every second

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in a perfect way. Procrastinators everywhere

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rejoice at that Bill's comeback, but the Jets

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put in a kind of workman -like job and then got...

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taken down in the end. So Gibson, who returned

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the punt against the Bills in overtime a couple

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of years ago in Josh Allen's three turnover game,

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was released because he may have blown the game

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against the Steelers with a fumble, and so they

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don't have a returner. That's an interesting

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wrinkle. It is especially with the way kick and

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punt returns have been factoring in Largely at

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least here week one in the football season. I

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mean JJ There's a ton that we can talk about

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about this game special teams defense offense.

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Where do you want to start? Let's go ahead and

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get get started in the weakest. Let's let's do

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the hardest work first, which is the defense

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Yeah, the bills defense versus just just offense

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and I think that for me, kind of my overall general

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concept is that the the Jets are like a Diet

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Coke version of the Ravens offense in a lot of

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ways in that their running back is not Derek

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Henry, but Breeze Hall is very good. Their quarterback

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is not Lamar Jackson, but Justin Fields looked

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very good, including passing the ball, which

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has never been. his kind of strong point, he

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looked like he, you know, had some things together

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that Aaron Gled's influence has been good, that

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their offensive coordinator's influence has been

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good. So it's going to be interesting. I think

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that for me, again, the kind of front to back,

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with Ed Oliver being out, the defensive line

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needs to absolutely step up to cover his absence.

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And the linebackers, this is a redemption game

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for Bernard and Milano. They got absolutely washed

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out last week. They were not making any kind

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of impact plays. They were, could be counted

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on for a tackle here or there when they were

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in the right place, but nothing like we have

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seen from both of them throughout their career.

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Yeah. And it's, it's going to take a, it takes

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a village, which sounds like such a cliche, but

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to stop a run game as complete as the Ravens

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and as modern and complete as the Jets run game

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looks like at least after one week, it's going

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to take everybody. I mean, JJ, I think that stuck

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out to me the most watching the Jets and then

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re -watching that game is how modern. the offense

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looked. I mean, condensed sets, they ran out

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12th personnel on about a third of their offensive

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snaps, which was double the rate that they ran

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at last year. And they were very effective out

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of it, particularly running Breesault to the

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left side of that offensive line toward Olufoshanu

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and John Simpson. 16 of his 19 attempts headed

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that way, 5 .8 yards per carry. I mean, They

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have found a recipe for success and a lot of

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those condensed twelve personnel sets the Steelers

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shows to blitz Justin Fields and to your point

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earlier. They had answers. Tanner Engstrom, the

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new offensive coordinator for the Jets, had answers

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for fields in that blitz game. He was five of

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six against man blitzes, 72 .7 % completion rate

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overall. And he was able to buy time with his

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feet. Time to throw over three and a half seconds.

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But when you've got a mobile quarterback like

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that that can chuck it and run, or can buy time

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by moving the pocket, this is a recipe. This

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is a recipe that has consistently confounded

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the Bills defense, even when they're healthy,

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even when they've got all their guys in. This

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has been a formula that the Bills defense has

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really struggled against. I'm looking for a couple

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of things here. You mentioned the linebackers,

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JJ, but when teams run out a lot of those condensed

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formats like the Jets plan to do, I would assume

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today. It's also about the DBs. DBs are drawn

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in closer to the line of scrimmage, and we're

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just going to have to see better run fits from

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guys like Cole Bishop, Taylor Rapp, who just

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took some horrible angles, horrible angles in

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that Baltimore Ravens game. And then Dorian Strong,

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you know, Benford's going to be there on his

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assignment in run defense, but then you've got

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three unknowns in the defensive backfield that

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I think are going to also have to step up today

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too. Yeah, I think that it I just was pulling

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up the the PFF, you know I know that we talked

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about PFF rankings not be the being the be all

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end all but they're certainly a good place to

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start the conversation Terrell Bernard and Matt

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Milano were the 58th they're tied exactly tied

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for 58th out of 61 graded linebackers. They were

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equally bad. They were equally two of the most

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terrible people playing football last week, according

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to this one site. And then also Taylor Rap was

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the absolute worst safety playing in NFL football

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last weekend, according to this rating site.

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And then we have TJ Sanders who has a rating

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so low it's not even charted. Um, so wasn't looking

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great, uh, across the board. Let's hope that

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a week of experience under the belts of, of TJ

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Sanders and Deon Jones, um, improves their defense,

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but you're absolutely right. I think that the,

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the Jets offensive line looks much improved.

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Um, Armand Membu, uh, if somebody can get, if

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Joe, if somebody can get past him, it's gotta

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be Joey Bosa because I just don't think that

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he is such a talented looking rookie that, um,

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I'm happy for Jared that it seems like the Jets

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hit on that one, because it's such a relief to

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have a solid starting tackle in the draft. But

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for the Bills fans who want to see a sack party,

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I don't know. Justin Fields is an incredibly

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sackable quarterback. He is and you know, we

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talked about the strength of that offensive line

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in the run game But in the pass game Justin Fields

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face faced 16 pressures last week against Pittsburgh

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15 of them came off that very same left side

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of the offensive line. So as good as they looked

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and mauling in the run game last week, JJ, they

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can be had in obvious passing down situations.

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And the Bills, I mean, the struggle is not going

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to be third down, hopefully, if the Bills can

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get it to third and five and third and seven

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and getting some passing sets. The struggle is

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going to be first and second down and trying

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to keep this Jets run game off schedule. That's

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where it's going to be. Because if you can get,

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switch that left side of the offensive line into

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pass pro mode, That's where you've got some advantage

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with a lot of your natural penetrators and Rousseau

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and Bosa and Sanders. And let's not forget Dion

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Walker too. He's a big body dude, but his ability

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to move and gain penetration factors more for

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me into the pass game this week than it does

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into the run defense game for sure. Yeah, absolutely.

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And I think that that that has to be the right

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script to play. You have to the bills. cannot

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just screw around for the first three quarters

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and hope that this is gonna turn out okay. They

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have to do what the Jets were trying to do to

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the Steelers and effectively, and that's control

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the game script. That is, stay on the, you know,

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keep your offense on the field, long sustained

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drives, score on every, score seven on every

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of your possessions that you can, and then force

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a few turnovers from the Jets, not in terms of.

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you know, interceptions fumbles, but rather making

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sure that they're punting and not having the

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same long sustained clock eating drives with

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ending in seven. I think you're absolutely right.

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And that is the place that they need to apply

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the pressure to is in dialing up some exotic

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things. Because that's one of the things about

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Justin Fields is that he was one of the most

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efficient pastors last week, but it was very

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much second reaction plays. It was never his

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like kind of, it wasn't a Tua game. It was closer

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to a Lamar Jackson type game where, you know,

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he was not just hitting his back foot and zipping

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it. It was, you know, hitting his back foot,

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kind of scrambling around a little bit, and then

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finding somebody open. Often Garrett Wilson,

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who we know is exactly that guy. And so it's

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going to be interesting and I hope that the Bills

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can get some things done because what we saw

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in preseason, what we've seen in the first week

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so far is that the Bills are willing to go man

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and they're willing to blitz a little bit more.

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And I think that, you know, they blitzed something

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like 37 % of the time or whatever against the

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Ravens and they may need to do the same. And

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I think it's going to be more effective against

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Justin Fields if a few people can win their individual

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matchups in that front seven. That's what it's

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about man. It's about winning those one -on -one

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matchups, but then also the back end of the defense

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Staying sticky in coverage and winning their

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matchups, too You know, there's been a lot of

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there's been a lot of talk you bring up Garrett

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Wilson or Garrett Wilson rather There's been

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a lot of talk about you know, Christian Benford

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and how he was targeted almost mercilessly by

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Lamar last week I mean Lamar went after Benford

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on 33 % of his dropbacks Benford allowed a passer

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rating of 150 .9. For those of you unfamiliar

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with passer rating, perfect rating is 153 .8.

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So Lamar was damn near perfect targeting Benford.

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He gave up two TDs and a completion percentage

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above expectation of 12 .4%, according to NFL

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Next Gen stats. But he was sticky in coverage.

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He forced, Brenford forced 42 % tight window

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throws when he was in man coverage and he only

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allowed about two yards of separation. To me,

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to your point, JJ, if the Bills are going to

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choose to play man, I do not know that Justin

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Fields has yet shown me enough in his development

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as a passer that he can maximize those tight

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window throws. So I do think if the Bills have

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to dial up some more exotic packages. If they

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are going to run more man blitzes, I think they

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will be more successful than the Steelers were.

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Because remember, the Steelers were without Joey

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Porter Jr. for a large stretch of this game,

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and they lost, I think, both of their starting

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safeties. So not to take away from anything that

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we saw from Justin Fields last week, but he was

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playing against second unit guys in that Pittsburgh

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secondary for a large extent. I think if Benford

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can stay sticky like he did against the Ravens,

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he's just going to naturally see more success

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because the ball placement for Fields is not

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going to be as surgical as it was for Lamar Jackson.

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Yeah, that's a great point. And that kind of

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harkens back to when I said that they're going

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against the diet duo of, you know, Jackson and

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Henry with Fields and Hall. And I think that

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that's hopefully that is a way that these bills

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can, and we talked about it so much pre -game,

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post -game, that the Ravens are a team that is

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absolutely built to hurt the bills in the ways

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that they can be hurt the most. The Jets are

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trying to build that team. They just may be a

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little bit early in their build in terms of putting

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it all together. And the QB is such a question

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mark in this game. I think that, you know, if...

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If it comes down to a Justin Fields versus Josh

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Allen shootout, I like our guy, whereas I'm not

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as confident when it's just, you know, when it's

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Josh Allen versus Lamar Jackson in a shootout

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because of those reasons. They're both supremely

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talented. I know, I know. The Ravens are like

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that ex -girlfriend that just knows how to hurt

00:13:32.620 --> 00:13:35.740
you, you know what I mean? It's like, yeah. That's

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your biggest insecurity in Justin. Exactly. They

00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:42.059
know exactly what your deepest fear is, and they

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know how to exploit it. That's the Ravens for

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these bills, right? The Jets, again, and this

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is a credit to Aaron Glenn, this is a credit

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to that new regime in New York. And notice that

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I'm saying New York and not New Jersey, because

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even after week one, I've got a kind of a new

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respect for how this Jets team wants to operate

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now. But they're very clear -eyed that they need

00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:07.309
to win the division. There is a very clear blueprint

00:14:07.309 --> 00:14:09.490
that the bills have established for how they

00:14:09.490 --> 00:14:11.090
want to build their team, how they want to run

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their team, and then the personnel they want

00:14:13.070 --> 00:14:16.970
to put on the field. And this coaching staff

00:14:16.970 --> 00:14:20.149
and this personnel office for the Jets, they

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are starting to build out what looks like the

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early versions of something that is going to

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challenge the bills. And listen, the bills are

00:14:26.909 --> 00:14:30.350
going to get The absolute best shot from the

00:14:30.350 --> 00:14:32.370
Jets. This is no shade of the Jets. This is going

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to be the Jets Super Bowl this week to match

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up here in New Jersey. I think, I think this

00:14:40.009 --> 00:14:42.830
offense in particular is going to come to play

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and not just play, but repeat and to a large

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extent, a lot of the physical performance winning

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one -on -one matchups that did them so well against,

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uh, against Pittsburgh. I mean, dude, you mentioned

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Memboo. Like I'm pretty sure I saw a stat come

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across my social media accounts that said that

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Memboo's time to pressure allowed was 3 .8 seconds.

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He was, Justin Fields could have had a lunch

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in the pocket on Memboo's side of the field at

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3 .8 seconds. That is an eternity to keep pressure

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off of your quarterback. So I think they're going

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to want to come and play physical. And you know,

00:15:19.190 --> 00:15:22.909
man, after the physicality and the emotion and

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the way the Bills won week one, I don't want

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to say it because I'm always wrong about these

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things, but this is feeling a little bit like

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a trap game. Another physical game that I don't

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know if the Bills are up for yet. That, yeah,

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no, I'm worried about it, too. And I think that,

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you know, it's interesting you say, you know,

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Arman Membu is, it's like they have to cut a

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canal across Arman Membu to just, because transversing

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the bottom or top coast of his island is too

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long. Like, if we're going to get in nautical

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terms. homie is six foot four three hundred and

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thirty two pounds like he's a giant man he's

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a geographic mass in of an in and of himself

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okay he's got he's got nine and three quarter

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inch wide hands each of them right and then he's

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got 33 and a half inch arms so he's just this

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giant man yeah he's like his You know, somebody

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that big who can throw, you know, 225 pounds

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up 31 times is going to really cause you problems

00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:24.580
on the edge. Yeah, I mean, he made T .J. Watt

00:16:24.580 --> 00:16:26.980
look washed in that game. Yeah. Yeah. And so

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hopefully our guy who's also potentially washed

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doesn't look as washed. Hopefully not. Hopefully

00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:35.000
not. Bosa had some nice recovery there. And,

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you know, I've got a sneaking suspicion, too,

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that in obvious passing downs, I think we're

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going to see Rousseau matched up a little bit

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more on Membu just because from a Measurable

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standpoint. I think he offers membu a little

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bit of a tougher matchup than both. Yeah. Yeah

00:16:51.100 --> 00:16:53.980
Well, yeah, cuz he's he's been more traditionally

00:16:53.980 --> 00:16:57.679
cut. He's a slippery year slippery year Russia

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than Bosa is in some regards where Bosa's pure

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power and so I think they're gonna try to put

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They're gonna try to line both up in the weakest

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spot because that's where he can make the most

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damage Absolutely, without a doubt. All right,

00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:12.779
JJ, any final thoughts here on this MASH unit

00:17:12.779 --> 00:17:14.539
Bill's defense we're rolling out there? Do you

00:17:14.539 --> 00:17:17.000
want to switch to the JA -17 side of the ball?

00:17:17.259 --> 00:17:19.359
Let's get to the part that makes me feel a little

00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:21.660
bit more better. Yeah, let's get to the thing

00:17:21.660 --> 00:17:24.380
that is going to absolve me of the anxiety I

00:17:24.380 --> 00:17:26.819
have. Let's do it. Because Josh freaking Allen,

00:17:26.980 --> 00:17:29.799
dude, like, it didn't matter that they played

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three and a half quarters of terrible football

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and the defense gave up every yard that they,

00:17:34.900 --> 00:17:37.410
you know, that the Ravens wanted. At the end

00:17:37.410 --> 00:17:41.089
of the day, Josh freaking Allen and some other

00:17:41.089 --> 00:17:45.210
heroes emerged. James Cook, Ken Coleman, Josh

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Palmer to some extent, Elijah Moore a little

00:17:47.369 --> 00:17:52.369
bit. There were some bright shining stars of

00:17:52.369 --> 00:17:54.630
hope on that offense that made me believe they

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can get this thing done again. Now, my question

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is to you, I'll start here. If we're going to

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go from planning all the way down to execution,

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What do you think about the plan? Is it all whip

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screens all day because the Jets know that they

00:18:08.210 --> 00:18:11.789
can funnel those plays? No. And I'm, I'm really

00:18:11.789 --> 00:18:15.410
hoping we get away from, from some of this, uh,

00:18:15.490 --> 00:18:17.349
behind the line of scrimmage throws at the line

00:18:17.349 --> 00:18:19.990
of scrimmage stuff that, you know, the bills

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are rolling out there in week one. And to me,

00:18:22.549 --> 00:18:25.630
it wasn't necessarily surrender, but it was.

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To me, a clear acknowledgement early in the game

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that Joe Brady was like, I don't know if we've

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got the horses to win downfield against this

00:18:32.849 --> 00:18:35.750
secondary, right? So he went out and he did some

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stuff that he thought was going to put his team

00:18:37.869 --> 00:18:41.430
in the best possible position to, to attack the

00:18:41.430 --> 00:18:43.990
very limited weaknesses of this Baltimore Ravens

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defense. But we saw very early on, especially

00:18:47.269 --> 00:18:51.930
with Josh Josh's average. average yards per attempt

00:18:51.930 --> 00:18:55.390
in the first half versus the second half, 4 .4

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yards average per attempt in the first half,

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12 .1 yards in the second half. I think when

00:19:01.970 --> 00:19:06.400
they saw that Jair Alexander was not yet 100%.

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They felt good about targeting him. And there

00:19:08.819 --> 00:19:12.660
is a similar juicy target in one Brandon Stevens

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on the other side of the ball that I think should

00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:18.299
give the Bills and Joe Brady and Josh Allen some

00:19:18.299 --> 00:19:23.920
confidence in attacking downfield early on. Yeah,

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absolutely. And I think that that's probably

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where I would start as well as the downfield

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passing attack has to be the thing that they

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hang their hat on this, this week because you

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have, you know, you have some players in that

00:19:36.109 --> 00:19:37.710
secondary who are kind of questionable. You pointed

00:19:37.710 --> 00:19:40.230
out Brandon Stevens, who used to play for the,

00:19:40.230 --> 00:19:43.670
um, Ravens and was somebody that the Bills had

00:19:43.670 --> 00:19:46.250
success targeting in the past as well. And really

00:19:46.250 --> 00:19:48.569
that second and third level is the place for

00:19:48.569 --> 00:19:50.910
it. You know, outside of sauce Gardner, they

00:19:50.910 --> 00:19:53.650
do not have great coverage players. Andrea Cisco

00:19:53.650 --> 00:19:56.690
is way more of a downhill thumper. They've got

00:19:56.690 --> 00:19:59.789
Tony Adams who has always been kind of questionable

00:19:59.789 --> 00:20:03.569
for me and his defense grade is abysmal with

00:20:03.569 --> 00:20:06.890
his coverage grade even lower. So I think that

00:20:06.890 --> 00:20:08.390
they have a chance against these linebackers.

00:20:08.430 --> 00:20:10.930
They have lighter, faster, kind of more athletic

00:20:10.930 --> 00:20:14.190
linebackers kind of in the vein of the Bills,

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which is an advantage the Bills had over the

00:20:16.730 --> 00:20:18.410
Ravens a little bit because they have heavier

00:20:18.410 --> 00:20:21.230
traditional old school linebackers. But these

00:20:21.230 --> 00:20:23.829
Jess linebackers are not, you know, they're not...

00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:26.519
experts in coverage. I think that our guys are

00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:29.299
a little bit better at that. And so it's going

00:20:29.299 --> 00:20:31.740
to be interesting to see how the bills target

00:20:31.740 --> 00:20:33.480
those linebackers on the second level, because

00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:37.920
on the first level, you know, everybody knows

00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:40.880
who Quinn and Williams is at this point. The

00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:43.059
Jets picked up Harrison or traded for Harrison

00:20:43.059 --> 00:20:46.400
Phillips. So they have a former bill in the middle.

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He's kind of their weakest link on the line because

00:20:49.940 --> 00:20:52.880
Jermaine Johnson and Will McDonald both look

00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:55.980
like the real deal being top of the first round

00:20:55.980 --> 00:20:59.359
edge rushers that they're leaning on now. So,

00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:01.119
yeah, I think that there's some there's some

00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:03.059
places to target in the secondary, but you have

00:21:03.059 --> 00:21:05.279
to go pretty deep and you have to have time.

00:21:05.380 --> 00:21:06.799
That's going to be the biggest problem because

00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:08.960
this Jets pass rush looks legitimate with the

00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:12.039
front four. Yeah, absolutely. And that's where,

00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:15.559
you know, James Cook, as we say every week, is

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going to have to factor in big and keeping defenses

00:21:18.140 --> 00:21:21.759
honest. Now I will say this just defense for

00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:23.759
everything that we've seen about the adjustments

00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:25.279
that they have made, the personnel that they

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have. This is still a defense that struggles

00:21:29.220 --> 00:21:32.170
against running backs, catching the ball. out

00:21:32.170 --> 00:21:34.329
of the backfield. And a lot of it has to do with

00:21:34.329 --> 00:21:35.650
the fact that you mentioned the questions they

00:21:35.650 --> 00:21:37.589
have at the second and third level of their defense.

00:21:37.990 --> 00:21:40.690
So I think Cook factors in big into the into

00:21:40.690 --> 00:21:43.630
the pass catch game here, keeping the Jets offense

00:21:43.630 --> 00:21:47.089
honest, drawing more guys into the box to create

00:21:47.089 --> 00:21:51.230
advantages downfield as well. I want to see the

00:21:51.230 --> 00:21:53.009
play action game factored here too. And again,

00:21:53.049 --> 00:21:55.349
I know when you're rolling out a pass rush is

00:21:55.349 --> 00:21:58.369
ferocious as the Jets have. You are hesitant

00:21:58.369 --> 00:22:00.609
to have your QB turn his back to the line of

00:22:00.609 --> 00:22:02.369
scrimmage. But at the end of the day, and this

00:22:02.369 --> 00:22:05.230
has been a gripe I have had, the only limited

00:22:05.230 --> 00:22:07.470
minor gripe I've had about the Joe Brady offense

00:22:07.470 --> 00:22:10.849
is that. You've got arguably the best play action

00:22:10.849 --> 00:22:13.009
quarterback in the league, but under center and

00:22:13.009 --> 00:22:15.670
Josh Allen, and you are not mashing that play

00:22:15.670 --> 00:22:18.349
action button with the elite level that you have

00:22:18.349 --> 00:22:20.990
hit with this run game as well. So I want to

00:22:20.990 --> 00:22:22.609
see a little bit more play action. I want to

00:22:22.609 --> 00:22:25.049
see the bills dictate the terms of engagement

00:22:25.049 --> 00:22:28.009
more on offense than they did against the Ravens

00:22:28.009 --> 00:22:30.170
in that first half, because JJ, it's all going

00:22:30.170 --> 00:22:32.720
to come down to game script. If the Buffalo Bills

00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:35.140
offense, and I feel like we say this all the

00:22:35.140 --> 00:22:37.599
time, but if the offense can get a two score

00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.539
lead, get a 17 point lead, you basically take

00:22:40.539 --> 00:22:43.019
the run game for the Jets out of the equation

00:22:43.019 --> 00:22:45.980
and you make Justin Fields a full time passer.

00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:48.980
And that's where you can put your defense in

00:22:48.980 --> 00:22:51.559
an advantageous position to take advantage of

00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:54.940
a still developing QB who is finding his way

00:22:54.940 --> 00:22:58.450
in a brand new offensive scheme. Yep. Absolutely.

00:22:59.190 --> 00:23:01.509
And I think too that the, you know, I agree completely

00:23:01.509 --> 00:23:04.109
with play action. I think that that is absolutely

00:23:04.109 --> 00:23:07.349
one way to attack. I think taking advantage of

00:23:07.349 --> 00:23:10.650
these defensive ends, being really young and

00:23:10.650 --> 00:23:13.769
really aggressive and getting the screen game

00:23:13.769 --> 00:23:16.190
to running backs utilized a little bit can also

00:23:16.190 --> 00:23:19.670
be a tool you can, you can kind of deploy. Um,

00:23:20.009 --> 00:23:22.500
but yeah. It's so frustrating because I agree

00:23:22.500 --> 00:23:24.980
with you. We see the game the same way on offense

00:23:24.980 --> 00:23:27.220
for the Bills and half for a little while that

00:23:27.220 --> 00:23:30.039
Josh Allen is exceptional at play action. And

00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.220
yet Joe Brady over his career calling games does

00:23:33.220 --> 00:23:38.059
it like less than 7 % of times. And so really

00:23:38.059 --> 00:23:39.480
kind of getting into that some more. I think

00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:42.240
it was 3 % against the Ravens and all of those

00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:45.759
plays that they did play action, Josh was successfully

00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.920
finding people on. So lean into that more for

00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:52.109
sure. Uh, I think targeting the, you know, it's,

00:23:52.109 --> 00:23:55.289
it's weird to say, but, um, trying to run at,

00:23:55.329 --> 00:23:58.490
you know, straight up the gut at the nose tackle

00:23:58.490 --> 00:24:00.630
Harrison Phillips might be the way to go. If

00:24:00.630 --> 00:24:02.849
you can get some movement because we got, you

00:24:02.849 --> 00:24:05.170
know, Osiris, Torrance, McConaughey, not small

00:24:05.170 --> 00:24:07.609
guys, David Edwards, not a small guy. If you

00:24:07.609 --> 00:24:10.390
can get some movement there on the side opposite

00:24:10.390 --> 00:24:13.609
Williams, who the Jets now, unlike the Robert

00:24:13.609 --> 00:24:16.809
Sala Jets, they, they put Quinn and Williams.

00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:19.720
There's no way you can't manipulate where they're

00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:21.259
going to line him up on the line like you could

00:24:21.259 --> 00:24:23.680
against Salah. Against Salah it was like, oh,

00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.019
if we just go heavy to this side, we know Quentin

00:24:26.019 --> 00:24:29.160
Williams is going to be on the weak side without

00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:33.599
tight end help. And that was much easier because

00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:35.819
it was just like, well, we can kind of figure

00:24:35.819 --> 00:24:37.779
out by our alignment where we're going to put

00:24:37.779 --> 00:24:41.200
him. Now it's like, no, they're going to use

00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:42.940
tape study to figure out where he's going to

00:24:42.940 --> 00:24:46.230
be most effective against your looks. The bills

00:24:46.230 --> 00:24:48.450
can still do some of that can still manipulate

00:24:48.450 --> 00:24:50.390
in some ways on offense, but they have to win

00:24:50.390 --> 00:24:54.710
the 3d chess match by You know outsmarting the

00:24:54.710 --> 00:24:57.430
Jets in that regard and Aaron Glenn's no slouch.

00:24:57.690 --> 00:25:00.309
No No, this is a I mean you saw the difference

00:25:00.309 --> 00:25:03.089
in week one This is an exceptionally well coached

00:25:03.089 --> 00:25:05.529
Jets team and we have not been able to say that

00:25:05.529 --> 00:25:09.470
for quite a few years now I Again, I get real

00:25:09.470 --> 00:25:12.450
trap game feels out of this because the bills

00:25:12.450 --> 00:25:17.269
right now After overcoming that Ravens game now

00:25:17.269 --> 00:25:19.869
have the, the highest odds in the league to start

00:25:19.869 --> 00:25:22.670
the year seven and Oh, before their rematch with

00:25:22.670 --> 00:25:26.369
Kansas city. And I just think I get it. I get

00:25:26.369 --> 00:25:28.950
odds makers are very good at their job jobs,

00:25:28.950 --> 00:25:30.950
but if you look at this thing on a game to game

00:25:30.950 --> 00:25:34.670
basis. This Jets game is a very, very early test

00:25:34.670 --> 00:25:37.529
in week two after the Bills are coming off a

00:25:37.529 --> 00:25:40.529
bruising physical and emotional matchup against

00:25:40.529 --> 00:25:43.630
a conference rival on the Ravens too. Listen,

00:25:43.769 --> 00:25:46.069
the Bills are well coached too. You know, we've

00:25:46.069 --> 00:25:48.509
had our issues with McDermott over the course

00:25:48.509 --> 00:25:50.589
of the last almost decade that he's been at the

00:25:50.589 --> 00:25:53.529
helm, but this is a well coached unit too. They

00:25:53.529 --> 00:25:55.730
really believe in the philosophy of one game

00:25:55.730 --> 00:25:58.990
at a time. And I just want to see more from them

00:25:58.990 --> 00:26:01.329
in the first half year to dictate the terms as

00:26:01.329 --> 00:26:03.210
opposed to have the game dictated to them in

00:26:03.210 --> 00:26:06.009
the way that they did against the Ravens. Yeah,

00:26:06.009 --> 00:26:09.650
and I think that you can. It's interesting because

00:26:09.650 --> 00:26:11.890
it was last year that the bill no two years ago,

00:26:11.990 --> 00:26:14.029
the bills played better on the road than at home.

00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:16.720
The Bills have played exceptionally well at home

00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.819
last year. But we'll see if we can get back to

00:26:19.819 --> 00:26:21.759
that. It seemed like they had a cheat code for

00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:23.900
playing on the road. They had their stuff together.

00:26:23.940 --> 00:26:26.140
They came out faster. They played a little bit

00:26:26.140 --> 00:26:28.660
hotter in the first half. And then they were

00:26:28.660 --> 00:26:30.940
doing the procrastination thing back at home

00:26:30.940 --> 00:26:34.839
last season. And so maybe we see that. Let's

00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:36.640
remember that this is the same defense that the

00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:39.680
Bills hung 40 plus on when Aaron Glenn was coaching

00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:44.119
it in Detroit. Last season so it's gonna be man

00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:46.000
coverage heavy and we know what Josh Allen does

00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:49.279
to man coverage traditionally Expect him to get

00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.859
some some scrambles on the books and then on

00:26:52.859 --> 00:26:54.779
top of that they're gonna blitz you they're gonna

00:26:54.779 --> 00:26:57.339
try to bring extra heat and if you can if you

00:26:57.339 --> 00:26:59.700
have Answers dialed up for Josh Allen. We know

00:26:59.700 --> 00:27:02.819
he's fast enough to deliver them Without a doubt.

00:27:02.980 --> 00:27:05.539
All right, man Anything more on the Bills offense

00:27:05.539 --> 00:27:06.880
or do you want to get to some prediction sure

00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:08.900
to go wrong? Let's go ahead and predict this

00:27:08.900 --> 00:27:11.680
thing All right, let's start with score. So the

00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:14.839
bills last I checked were, I don't want to verify

00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:16.660
this, it was either six and a half or seven and

00:27:16.660 --> 00:27:19.099
a half point favorites. They are six and a half

00:27:19.099 --> 00:27:21.819
point favorites on the road. Over -under for

00:27:21.819 --> 00:27:27.799
this game is 47 .5 points. I took the under last

00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:30.720
week. I was wrong about that, though I will say,

00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:32.720
and listen, you should not listen to us for betting

00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:35.740
advice. This is a non -gambling podcast. But

00:27:35.740 --> 00:27:39.119
unders last week, We're finished. I think it

00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:41.500
like a 90 % clip. There were only two games that

00:27:41.500 --> 00:27:44.099
finished in the over It was the Jets against

00:27:44.099 --> 00:27:47.079
Pittsburgh and it was the Bills against the Ravens

00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:50.579
that being said This also feels like it could

00:27:50.579 --> 00:27:52.359
be another shootout just because I don't trust

00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:54.380
this Bills defense JJ So where are you at with

00:27:54.380 --> 00:27:55.799
final score because I'm still trying to figure

00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:58.839
stuff out Yeah, I'm gonna say that the Bills

00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.380
are gonna are going to get hit I think the over

00:28:01.380 --> 00:28:04.039
is gonna hit and I think it's gonna be Bills

00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:09.650
35 Jets 27 Nice. All right. So you've got the

00:28:09.650 --> 00:28:11.410
Bills winning by, God, what's the math on that?

00:28:11.490 --> 00:28:13.690
Is that eight points? Yeah. Just covering the

00:28:13.690 --> 00:28:16.170
spread. Excellent. So you got the Bills covering.

00:28:17.029 --> 00:28:20.069
I think this game is going to be close. I've

00:28:20.069 --> 00:28:24.069
been like Bills win, Jets cover type of territory,

00:28:24.309 --> 00:28:27.710
and I've been back and forth on like a 37 -35

00:28:27.710 --> 00:28:30.890
final score. I will tell you, there was a point,

00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:33.450
and please Bills Mafia forgive me because this

00:28:33.450 --> 00:28:36.029
is prediction sure to go wrong. I was wrong last

00:28:36.029 --> 00:28:38.730
week. And I'm tempted to pick the Jets here just

00:28:38.730 --> 00:28:41.670
to keep that good karma going of when I pick

00:28:41.670 --> 00:28:45.609
the Jets, the Bills win. But I am going to go

00:28:45.609 --> 00:28:49.609
Bills 37, Jets 35. I think it's another good

00:28:49.609 --> 00:28:52.849
showing for the Jets. JJ, this is not a team

00:28:52.849 --> 00:28:56.630
to me that deserves to start 0 -2, but I've got

00:28:56.630 --> 00:28:59.369
them starting 0 -2 here. Just because I think

00:28:59.369 --> 00:29:01.869
the Bills will have more answers on offense.

00:29:02.660 --> 00:29:05.619
for this Jets attack than Justin Fields will

00:29:05.619 --> 00:29:08.200
have for the Bills if the game script goes the

00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:10.160
way they need it to go. And listen, since Joe

00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:13.200
Breed took over play calling against the Jets,

00:29:13.539 --> 00:29:17.359
margin of victory versus this squad has been

00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:21.500
in the double digits consistently. With the exception

00:29:21.500 --> 00:29:24.440
of, I think, week six last season where, I mean,

00:29:24.619 --> 00:29:27.680
Garrett Wilson just went off in that game. Joe

00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:29.960
Brady has figured out a way to really trounce

00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:32.220
this Jets squad and run up the score on offense.

00:29:33.740 --> 00:29:35.359
Yeah. And that's, that's been a change too, is

00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:37.660
I think that this, this people say, Oh, well,

00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:39.559
Josh Allen's not good against the Jets defense.

00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:44.029
That was only true until. um joe brady took over

00:29:44.029 --> 00:29:46.009
his offensive coordinator and then he's just

00:29:46.009 --> 00:29:48.210
hasn't been quite a bit better and part of that

00:29:48.210 --> 00:29:50.109
is establishing the run game because i think

00:29:50.109 --> 00:29:52.109
the jets want you to be in third and long like

00:29:52.109 --> 00:29:54.210
most defenses that's where they kind of thrive

00:29:54.210 --> 00:29:56.569
and even this year with the change in leadership

00:29:56.569 --> 00:29:59.339
that's still it and so I think that they have

00:29:59.339 --> 00:30:01.940
a great opportunity if they can, again, keep

00:30:01.940 --> 00:30:04.279
ahead, manage the game script. The secret that

00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:06.579
we know that it is to the bill of success has

00:30:06.579 --> 00:30:09.460
been kind of staying ahead, forcing the other

00:30:09.460 --> 00:30:12.259
team into uncomfortable choices on offense so

00:30:12.259 --> 00:30:14.799
that they can maximize turnovers and things like

00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.339
that. So I'm hopeful for it. I'm looking forward

00:30:17.339 --> 00:30:18.859
to it. Do you have any prop bets for this one?

00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:21.380
I do. You mentioned turnovers. I want to talk

00:30:21.380 --> 00:30:25.779
about Josh. We know two things can be true. We

00:30:25.779 --> 00:30:30.440
know that he has been on a historic run for him

00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.019
relative to his own production of not turning

00:30:33.019 --> 00:30:34.819
the ball over. Didn't have a turnover against

00:30:34.819 --> 00:30:40.819
the Ravens. However, he has thrown 18 interceptions

00:30:40.819 --> 00:30:43.220
against the New York Jets over the course of

00:30:43.220 --> 00:30:47.200
his career. That is the highest amount of interceptions

00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:50.440
that any active QB has against a single team

00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.359
in the league right now. So I got this one for

00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.500
you, JJ, over, under. Half an interception for

00:30:56.500 --> 00:31:00.460
Josh Allen. I'm going to say under because I

00:31:00.460 --> 00:31:03.059
think that what we're seeing is MVP Josh. I think

00:31:03.059 --> 00:31:05.279
he's pretty. He looked incredibly dialed in.

00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:08.000
I think that some of the play calls did him dirty

00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:11.259
in the first game, but as we all know, he took

00:31:11.259 --> 00:31:13.880
over the end of that game and every throw was

00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.740
an absolute dot. So I'm going to say under interception

00:31:17.740 --> 00:31:20.700
on Josh. Nice alright. I'm also going to say

00:31:20.700 --> 00:31:25.900
under two. Only because like. I trust this version

00:31:25.900 --> 00:31:28.059
of Josh. This version of Josh has proven to me

00:31:28.059 --> 00:31:30.640
to be real. If he does throw a pick, I wouldn't

00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.839
be surprised because it also won't be the end

00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.079
of the world. Do you know what I mean? But God,

00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.640
man, he's so good at backyard football. Like

00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.339
just watching him in the uptempo moments when

00:31:40.339 --> 00:31:41.839
they were running the four minute, two minute

00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.700
offense for the for the squad, like calling his

00:31:44.700 --> 00:31:47.559
shots at the line of scrimmage. I just wish I

00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.039
wish the Bills would do that more. I know they

00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:51.079
got to protect this defense. I just wish they

00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.799
would do that more because if. If I felt like

00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.460
they were going to go up tempo, I would easily

00:31:56.460 --> 00:31:58.559
take zero interceptions because I just think

00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.480
Josh gets into a flow that I don't see a lot

00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:03.779
of other QBs get into in that mode. But yeah.

00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.480
Yeah. And I know it's like, oh, we want the G

00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:09.339
gun. I think I mentioned that before on the pod.

00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:11.319
We've talked about it a lot. We've talked about

00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.099
it a lot. And I get it. I want it. We all want

00:32:14.099 --> 00:32:17.059
it. I just don't know that modern. modern kind

00:32:17.059 --> 00:32:19.420
of defensive and offensive football allows you

00:32:19.420 --> 00:32:21.279
to do that for a whole game. I think that's the

00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.160
problem is, I think that they could definitely

00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:25.359
do more tempo and apply it in different parts

00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.640
of the game than just, just before half and just

00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.339
at the end of the game, sprinkling in a, you

00:32:31.339 --> 00:32:34.960
know, a huddleless drive in the first quarter

00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.559
would be awesome. Especially a huddleless drive

00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.259
where you're already up three or seven and you

00:32:40.259 --> 00:32:42.579
got a chance to push it to double digits right

00:32:42.579 --> 00:32:46.119
like an awesome quick strike drive to really

00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.940
put the opposing team on their you tire the defense

00:32:48.940 --> 00:32:51.920
out make them gassed for like a good long drive

00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:55.759
and then you know capitalize It's it's a moral

00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.660
victory It's demoralizing for them. It really

00:32:59.660 --> 00:33:03.190
can be it really can be you got a prop Yeah.

00:33:03.569 --> 00:33:08.109
So, um, mine is over under, uh, Joey Bosa half

00:33:08.109 --> 00:33:15.170
a sack. Oh God. I don't know, man. I just don't

00:33:15.170 --> 00:33:17.269
believe in anyone on the front line. I don't

00:33:17.269 --> 00:33:19.410
believe in it. I just don't. It's so hard. Like

00:33:19.410 --> 00:33:22.450
they should get sacks. They got sacks last week,

00:33:22.450 --> 00:33:25.230
right? They should get sacks. Um, especially

00:33:25.230 --> 00:33:29.599
on a guy as sackable as Fields is, but I just

00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:31.200
week in or week out, I have a hard time. I'm

00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:32.700
going to say over just because I want to be a

00:33:32.700 --> 00:33:35.359
little bit positive. And I like the adjustments

00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:39.779
Bosa made to his game. You saw like a wily power

00:33:39.779 --> 00:33:41.920
veteran do some stuff last week that I think

00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:44.640
was great. I'm going to say over, whatever. Yeah.

00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:46.880
And I brought it up, so I'm saying over as well.

00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:48.880
I'm just putting all my eggs in that basket that

00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:51.279
the Bills find somebody who can be a double -digit

00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.160
sack person this year. Just anyone. And that's

00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.829
my guy. Yeah. I think I... I think I was like,

00:33:58.009 --> 00:33:59.789
no, no one's going to be in double digits. Rousseau's

00:33:59.789 --> 00:34:01.549
going to lead the team with nine sacks, but yeah.

00:34:01.710 --> 00:34:03.730
You did say that. I don't think anyone's going

00:34:03.730 --> 00:34:06.630
to be in double digits on this defense. I have

00:34:06.630 --> 00:34:09.170
strongly pulled back on my TJ Sanders is going

00:34:09.170 --> 00:34:10.969
to get double digits sacks after watching him

00:34:10.969 --> 00:34:13.949
against a real team in real football. Oh no,

00:34:14.050 --> 00:34:17.030
he's a rook. I'm sorry, it's on the interwebs.

00:34:17.329 --> 00:34:20.110
I actually used that to advertise last week's

00:34:20.110 --> 00:34:23.190
spots. Now I'm going to look like a fool. It

00:34:23.190 --> 00:34:25.550
got a dude, it got it got thousands of views

00:34:25.550 --> 00:34:28.449
on our Instagram page and put it out there. So

00:34:28.449 --> 00:34:31.010
you're either wrong epically or you are going

00:34:31.010 --> 00:34:33.829
to be like the reason why somebody put down 100

00:34:33.829 --> 00:34:36.469
bucks for TJ Sanders to win that award and they're

00:34:36.469 --> 00:34:39.989
now a millionaire. Right. And it wasn't me. Yeah,

00:34:39.989 --> 00:34:41.710
no. So that's going to be that's going to be

00:34:41.710 --> 00:34:45.550
a fun thing. And hopefully, you know. I'm hoping

00:34:45.550 --> 00:34:47.710
he and Dion Walker both have a great showing

00:34:47.710 --> 00:34:49.730
in the next three weeks and then I'm writing

00:34:49.730 --> 00:34:53.389
a Apology card to Dion Walker Walker had some

00:34:53.389 --> 00:34:55.010
real we didn't we haven't talked about this.

00:34:55.090 --> 00:34:57.389
We didn't talk about it in the post game Because

00:34:57.389 --> 00:34:59.949
everything rightfully so was focused on how amazing

00:34:59.949 --> 00:35:03.690
Josh was Walker had some really good reps against

00:35:03.690 --> 00:35:06.349
the Ravens, right? particularly particularly

00:35:06.349 --> 00:35:12.610
in pass rush the the Oh God, what was it? Was

00:35:12.610 --> 00:35:15.849
it the Lamar like just running all over the place?

00:35:15.989 --> 00:35:18.989
No, it was the throw to DeAndre Hopkins, that

00:35:18.989 --> 00:35:23.449
dime that Lamar had. Walker got immediate penetration

00:35:23.449 --> 00:35:27.269
and Lamar had no choice but to go to Hopkins

00:35:27.269 --> 00:35:29.750
on that play. But Walker factored in big time

00:35:29.750 --> 00:35:31.590
last week in a lot of the pass rush game. Yeah,

00:35:31.829 --> 00:35:34.670
he looked solid. Yeah, I'm excited to see some

00:35:34.670 --> 00:35:37.889
more. Any other prop bets, dude? I got no other

00:35:37.889 --> 00:35:39.409
prop bets, sir. If you're ready to wrap this

00:35:39.409 --> 00:35:42.199
thing up, put a bow on it. Yeah, I'd say call

00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:44.519
it a day, and in a few hours, let's see the Bills

00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.000
vs. Jets. All right. For all of you listening

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