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Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread Podcast. Dan

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and JJ are here in absolute awestruck, sometimes

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dejected, sometimes celebratory fashion for you.

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Bills mafia after what can only be described

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as a jaw dropping 41 to 40 victory over the Baltimore

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Ravens in Highmark Stadium slash Rich Stadium

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slash Ralph Wilson Stadium. the last home opener

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of the entire era for that stadium and couldn't

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have asked for a bigger or more exciting game

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for that to kick off this 2025 season. How are

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you doing? I still don't know that last night

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was real, JJ. I'm not going to lie. And it was

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it was reminiscent of so many bills. comeback

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moments where, you know, I think back to the

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the Frank Wright game against the Houston Oilers,

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and you've got and you know, Andre Reed was on

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Instagram, you know, posting about this. And

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how I remember even watching that game. I was

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a kid, I was asking my parents like, Why is everybody

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leaving? My my dad and my uncle's really because

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the bills suck. That's why That's why everyone's

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leaving. We're sick of this team. That's right.

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They don't get a safety. They don't got nothing.

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And then like flash forward, you know, 30 some

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odd years, me and you and our text chain, which

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is notoriously pessimistic, kind of in the same

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vein, right? Even though we weren't at the game,

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we had mentally left the game and we were, we

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were ready, I think, to run this front office

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and coaching staff like absolutely overboard.

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And then Josh, Josh Allen happens, man. Josh

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Allen. Yeah, Josh Allen is the deodorant on on

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all porous defenses. You know, what can we say

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on a stink fest otherwise? Yeah, no. And I think

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you're right. I know if the Bills had if just

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like one of the last five minute plays that went

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in the Bills favor went in a different direction

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and the Bills lost this game 38 to 40 or like,

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you know, even lesser of a score. It would be

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fire Sean McDermott today. You know it would

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be. It would be fire Sean McDermott. He tried

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three two -point conversions. They all failed.

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Fire Joe Brady. He was running weird whip screens

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to the outside through the middle of the game,

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causing three and outs. Fire Brandon Bean. He

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can't pick anybody who's a good receiver. It

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would have just been, it would have been Bedlam

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and Buffalo. You know, everything would have

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been on the table. Sean McDermott can't coach

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a defense. They were like too predictable on

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offense. All of those things, all of those cards

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would have been on the table. We would have heard

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all of the cacophony of echoing comments. Again,

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and some of that criticism is absolutely 100

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% deserved. And yet, Josh Allen, right? Like,

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I think that I, when people asked me my honest

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opinion of the Bills chances against the Ravens,

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I even think I said it on the pod. If Josh Allen

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plays an MVP level game and somehow the Bills

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caused the Ravens to make some mistakes, they

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will win. But if the Ravens play a perfectly

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clean game, they will dominate. And most of the

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game, the Ravens played perfectly clean and dominated.

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Yeah, no. It's amazing how much stuff we... we

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predicted would happen in this game that actually

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happened. This was a Zay Flowers game. This was

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a Derek Henry game. The defense didn't have any

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answers for Derek Henry, Lamar Jackson. We knew

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that the Bills were going to play man coverage

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at a high clip, which they did at about 41%.

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We knew they were going to blitz Lamar, but Lamar

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was really good against the Blitz. He was seven

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for nine, 140 yards and a TD pass against the

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Buffalo Bills Blitz. Everything we said would

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happen happened and yet, Josh Allen, you know,

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Josh Allen is the answer to a lot of how we wrap

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our heads around last night, but also to man

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I mean We've been asking for star performances

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on the defensive side of the ball for so long

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and you and I have talked about Numerous scenarios

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where we're like, you know what if it's 35 to

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35 because you're never gonna shut out the Chiefs

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You're ever gonna shut out the Bengals You're

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ever gonna shut out the Ravens teams that know

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your scheme so well But when can we get a dude

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on the other side of the ball? on the defensive

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side of the ball to finally turn in a game tilting

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star performance to help us get it over the hump.

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And yesterday that was Ed Oliver, right? That

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defense for the Buffalo Bills played bad. And

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I'm sure we're going to break it down, but flowers

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to Ed Oliver for turning in what was an absolute

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star performance of the defensive side and a

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game where, like we have described so many times,

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the Bills defense was utterly futile, but in

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high leverage moments, Someone had to step up

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and that person was at Oliver on a multitude

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of occasions. Whatever we're going to say about

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the defense here, folks, please know that at

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Oliver is exempt. That was a all pro star performance.

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He turned in yesterday from his pressure rate

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on Lamar Jackson. Of course, the highlight play

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of punching out the ball from Derek Henry's massive

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arms, right? Cole, Cole Bishop probably owes

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at Oliver, I think steak dinner or something

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to that effect because The lasting memory on

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the defensive side of the ball is going to be

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Oliver creating that fumble against Henry and

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not Henry running 20 miles an hour and absolutely

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ragdolling Cole Bishop on his way to the end

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zone. So all things, all the things we've been

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asking for the defensive side of the ball, we

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got it. And we got it from a guy who has largely

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been under discussed the soft season, you know,

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and all this defensive line shuffle. People forgot

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to kind of talk about at Oliver and the fact

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that he's been a staple of this interior for

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so long. When the lights were brightest here,

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when his team needed him the most didn't matter

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that they had given up 40 points at that point.

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And at Oliver absolutely made miracles happen.

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Um, I think that the entire defensive front seven,

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all the linemen and the linebackers should actually

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buy Cole Bishop and Taylor wrap steak dinners

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for the amount of times that their leaky gap

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play let a full speed, 250 pounds, six foot four,

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Derek Henry running a four, three, 40 truck into

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that secondary. It's a train on the tracks at

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that point. You cannot expect a safety. It almost

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doesn't matter who that safety is back there.

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You cannot count on them to come up and tackle

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that guy in those situations. And it was a lot.

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A lot of it was on bad run fits on the front

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end. A lot of it was on the pills. unwillingness.

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One of my biggest criticisms of this defense

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is we're just kind of getting into the defense.

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One of my biggest criticisms is the fact that

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they played just like gap responsibility defense

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with absolutely no flavor on it. It was a cup

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of vanilla soft serve ice cream and the Ravens

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were just eating it up. There was like, oh, we're

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going to do gap sound with the second level filling

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and we're not going to do any run blitzes, no

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run stunts. They basically only were reserving

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blitzes during definite passing downs and otherwise

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were playing basic flavorless defense. I didn't

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see anything on the defensive line play. Granted,

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I haven't watched all 22 yet. That just came

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out today. I'm having that time. Based on just

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the broadcast watch, it was an easily predictive.

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And I think too that we talked about how, you

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know, on the onset, if the Bills lose this game,

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it's like, oh, McDermott should be fired. Bean

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should be fired. Everyone should be fired. Let's

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start over. This isn't going to get it done.

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This game also is the kind of thing that's a

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totem for the, for the coaching staff and the

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players to point to and say, this is why you

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never quit. This is why you never give up. And

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that actually does indicate that they're receiving

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a proper level of coaching. From Sean McDermott

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the just the fact that they I mean John Harbaugh's

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Ravens who he's lauded as one of the two or three

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best coaches in the league They were like celebrating

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on the sideline at 40 to 25 like they had the

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thing in the bag They took their foot off the

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gas his coordinators started coaching in conservative

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clock kill type of ways That's all the bills

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needed. That's that little window of time a little

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gap in aggressiveness JJ, we talked about how

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coaching was going to matter in this game. The

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Ravens have blown game after game like this in

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recent memory. I mean, they are the most well

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balanced, maybe sound team in the league. And

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yet they always have these weird moments where

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they come up short for a variety of different

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reasons. It's just, they find ways to lose these

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games. And this is the position I think the Bills

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were in, we felt like so many years ago, where

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we just found weird ways to lose games. That

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Jacksonville Jaguars game from God, what was

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that? 2022, 2023, the nine to six game, one of

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Urban Meyer's few wins. Yeah. Two seasons ago,

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Mack Jones won an only fourth quarter combat

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drive in his career against the Buffalo Bills.

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I believe that was that in Highmark? I think

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that was in Highmark, right? Yeah. I mean, it's

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just, it's the Bills are very, we as Bills fans

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are very familiar with the Bills losing games

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like that in exactly that type of fashion. So

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we can empathize with the Ravens. I mean, the

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problem for me is that the Ravens dude, they're

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completely loaded. That is a star -studded cast

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from top to bottom on both sides of the ball.

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They've had coaching continuity for what feels

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like decades now with Harbaugh. They've got stars

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all up and down that roster. They draft well.

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They sign well. They manage their cap well. And

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yet, despite all of those things, when the moment

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is its biggest, this is a team that finds a new

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way to come up short. I'm not trying to sell

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the bill short in this particular situation,

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but is like an objective observer and not a fan

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who is giddy about what happened yesterday. Like,

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if you're a Ravens fan sitting at home today,

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you've got to be like, what do we ought to do,

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right? What else could we have done? Exactly.

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I mean, a 0 .09 % chance for the Bills to win

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this game on ESPN, um, wind predictor analytics

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with four minutes left. And yet they pulled it

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out. Yeah. Yeah. With five minutes left, uh,

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you know, what was it? Zero and 717. in NFL history.

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Teams trailing by 15 or more points with five

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minutes or less left in the fourth quarter since

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2017. 0 -717. Now it's 1 -717. Terrible stat.

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Terrible stat to hang on the Ravens. 1 -718 times

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that's happened. It happened to them last night.

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They squat. It's so interesting because I think

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the narrative is going to be that they squandered

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the lead. I would argue, and not just as a fan,

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but as a football, you know, somebody who analyzes

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football, the Bills snatched it from them. They

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did not squander. I mean, they could have probably

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coached a little bit more aggressive. They could

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have done some different things and not been

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so conservative. You know, they're punting on

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fourth down. I don't think Andy Reid would have

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punted that ball. I felt like they were surrendered

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at that point. I feel like he would have gone

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for it and said, if they get the ball back, if

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we give this over on downs and they kick a field

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goal and go ahead, we have time. We don't want

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to control our destiny. They didn't do that.

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They punted it away. And Sean McDermott after

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the game was asked that direct question, he said,

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it's really sort of a toss -up. Any coach in

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the league is going to see it both ways. and

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have a sense, you know, in the moment you got

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to make that kind of a gut call. And I think

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that was one. So, yeah, I think there's some

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choices they made that indicate squandering a

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lead, but for the most part, the way that the

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Bills executed in those final five minutes, they

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took it. They just claimed it. They claimed that

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victory from the jaws of defeat. Mercilessly

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targeting a Jair Alexander who... I mean, listen,

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it's a great, great DB. I think we wanted him

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right. But he's super talented. He's a great

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scheme fit for the Ravens, like not a guy who

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thought thought the bills would go after. But

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they did they went after him when Palmer was

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on him when Coleman was on him because they could

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see that he wasn't up to snuff yet in this scheme.

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And that's that's the transition that I loved.

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And I credit Josh more with that than Joe Brady

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for reading what was on the field in front of

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him and making some of those aggressive decisions.

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Because a lot of that listen, Joe Brady, probably

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going to be a head coach at after the end of

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the season. Love Joe Brady and everything he

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brings to the table. Big caveat. That being said,

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though, some of that some of that play calling

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early on in the game, it's like he anticipated

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that the O -line was going to lose its battles

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to the Baltimore Ravens defensive line. I mean,

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tight end bubble screens like to Dalton Kincaid.

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I mean, Keon Coleman had a couple of screen passes

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as well when he dropped. I just. Those are not

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the two guys that I would factor into the screen

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game. But he was trying to work up the quick

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game for Josh and Josh was like, you know what?

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Second half of the game in particular, he just

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slowed everything down. Happy to buy time with

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his legs when the line didn't hold up. Happy

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to stay in the pocket when he saw his protection

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was good and targeted the boundaries where you

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didn't think. the bills were going to be able

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to go. And he let some of these wide receivers

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Palmer, we can debate if he had a good game or

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not, but he definitely had a clutch. He had a

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great fourth quarter, right? Great fourth quarter,

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right? And made some of that Mac Collins, veterans,

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veteran play stuff, drawing that DPI in the second

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half as well. But then he allowed his guys to

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rise to the occasion with him. And I love that.

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And that's what Josh does. He makes guys better.

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So it was just, it was the aggression. that they

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showed, they went out to win it, not try to like

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eke it out. And I think they absolutely deserve

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the outcome that they got, especially after that

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second half of play. Yep. Well, and I think too,

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you know, again, just sticking with the defense

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for a second. Lamar Jackson has the best QB rating

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in the league right now, 144. Derrick Henry has

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the most rushing guards in the league right now,

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169. Dave Flowers has the most receiving guards

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in the league right now, 143. None of it was

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okay. None of it was good enough because Josh

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Allen leads the league and Accumulated yet another

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game with two rushing and two passing touchdowns

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minimum Making him again the NFL leader of in

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all of history with games of that number with

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set hits his seventh time So wild and to your

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point before about John Harbaugh He has lost

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eight games when leading in the fourth quarter

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by at least eight points since 2000. That's the

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most that's the most that any coach in the league

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has lost. Yes and for you Bills fans being like

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well McDermott has lost his fair share I believe

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the Bills are only second on that list with two

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in that same time frame. Right yeah two eight

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yeah so so if you think in and Harbaugh's still

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employed I know, right? He owes a lot to Lamar

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for saving his job when they drafted him. Oh,

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yeah. They were about to move on from him. He

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got the Joe Flacco Super Bowl, and then he didn't

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do anything for a few years. They were like,

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I think we're ready. I think we're done with

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this Harbaugh. Yeah. But God, that's got to hurt

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so bad if you're a Ravens fan. Oh, my gosh. I

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know. God, we've been there. Ravens fan, we've

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been there. We totally understand. We understand

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that we are your the chiefs. Yeah, you also have

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the chief so it's double insult but So so JJ

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we have we have I think celebrated In a gentlemanly

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fashion without gloating. Yeah, but there were

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definitely some concerns here for the bills And

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I understand that you're scaling up the level

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of competition relative to what they may face

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You know in the division and in the coming weeks

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when you talk about the Ravens But man this defense

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looked bad. Yeah, it looked it didn't look like

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they needed It didn't look like they needed one

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safety. It looked like they needed two safeties.

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Now you brought up a really good point. The defensive

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line did not hold up their end in the run game

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at all. But I mean, dude, even in coverage, it

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was a rough night. I'm just saying if anybody,

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if any cornerback or safety is trying to tackle

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a running back who makes it to them untouched,

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that's not a safety problem. Yes. That is definitely

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not a safety problem. That is, that is linebackers.

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People, I was, we already said Ed Oliver for

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the abysmal defensive performance, Ed Oliver

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gets a pass, Joey Bosa gets a pass. I thought

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Christian Benford also looked solid, right? Like

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he had the third most tackles on the team. So

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he was saving a lot of plays. His coverage, he

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lost Zay Flowers a few times and that was surprising.

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because you don't see that. And I wonder how

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much of that could be laid at the feet of the

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safeties or Dorian Strong, right? Because the

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combination coverages that the Bills play and

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their zone defense, and even in their man, there's

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a lot of handoffs. And I saw a lot of handoffs

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being messed up in the back end. Yes. They could

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not communicate. They were having a really hard

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time communicating about these things pre -snap.

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I have some faith that this team who always has

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a terrible defense is going to not be any better.

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So I was trying to go positive there, but I'm

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very worried. I saw you, you were, you were staging

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a vociferous defense of the secondary where I'm

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ready to go pull Justin Simmons and Dribble,

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Dribble peppers off the scrap heap right now.

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Um, you know what? I want to talk about Benford.

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I, I, They kind of went after him in coverage,

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right? Like Deandre Hopkins has no business getting

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past a DB as talented as Benford. I just, and

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we're going to see it again, I think this week

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with Garrett Wilson, some of Benford's worst

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games have been against Garrett Wilson. I just

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think when you go dude for dude, right? And you

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got to win a one -on -one matchup. No one is

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putting Benford on an island. Right? No one is

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like giving him the Sauce Gardener treatment,

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the Darrell Rivas treatment. They are happy to

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go after him when they feel like they have a

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talent advantage against him. There are 16 wide

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receivers in this league who will not struggle

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to beat Christian Benford. They're not probably

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going to catch a ball and run for a venture extra

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yards. He's going to be tight. He's going to

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give them some business. He's not going to give

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them a clean release ever. But there's probably

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like 15 to 17 wide receivers who I could line

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up on a spreadsheet and be like, these are the

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ones who are going to be Christian Benford. Yeah,

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without a doubt. Because he, there's a reason

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he's a six round pick. He has some athletic limitations.

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He has some traits that are not elite. And so,

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yeah, no, I agree that, but I don't think Deandre

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Hopkins is of the caliber that he should be beating

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Christian Benford. So I agree with that. He really

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did. That was an incredible catch by Deha. Yeah,

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incredible catch. But um, but yes, I think listen,

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this is you everyone is ready to get rid of Cole

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Bishop and Taylor wrap today. Everyone's ready

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to go sign Stefan Gilmore to play CB2. I think

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you offer a very sober though and rational analysis

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of why the DB is yes looked bad on broadcast,

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but it was because of a more holistic failure

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on that defense, which brings me to the defensive

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line. And outside of that Oliver, What specifically

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did you see that would give you maybe a kernel

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of? Optimism moving forward here because like

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it was it was all bad most of the time for that

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deal. Yeah, I Mean I would say you know Gregor

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so Had some flashes that he is going to be what

00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:05.539
we've always known him to be as a Excellent run

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defender who will also be pretty solid in pass

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rush situations, especially high leverage pass

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rush situations. The problem was other teams

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know it, and they were comfortable, especially

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against TJ Sanders, Deion Walker, Daquan Jones,

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and even Joey Bosa to some regard, and especially

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AJ Vanessa. They were happy to just single all

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those people and use, especially with the gap

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power scheme that the Ravens often run and zone

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reads and all of that. They were happy to just

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be like, okay, we're going to either give help

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to somebody who's blocking Greg Russo, or we're

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going to double him straight up and make that

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the point of attack. And he is a lanky guy. He's

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not super stout. And so that is his kryptonite

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is when you get two very, very large people pushing

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him or use a tight end, like tight end trap on

00:20:53.690 --> 00:20:56.589
the end to pin him in pin pull stuff like he

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just he can't get off of it. He's not he's not

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super dense. He's not powerful enough to like

00:21:02.269 --> 00:21:04.670
split the gaps because he's also so tall. So

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I worried about that. I think that he's talented

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enough to do well, but it's really, his game

00:21:11.549 --> 00:21:16.950
is 100 % dependent on at Oliver, Dequan Jones,

00:21:17.170 --> 00:21:20.829
Dion Jones, or, you know, or Dion Walker, TJ

00:21:20.829 --> 00:21:24.369
Sanders. It's, it's dependent on those guys demanding

00:21:24.369 --> 00:21:26.549
at least one of them be double teamed because

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he can do, he can do a lot of amazing things,

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but only over one -on -one. Joey Bosa looked

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like he was shaking off some rust. He got better

00:21:32.809 --> 00:21:36.309
as the game went on. Yeah, I really liked and

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you know Collins worth did a really good job

00:21:37.869 --> 00:21:40.130
calling it out I really like the adjustments

00:21:40.130 --> 00:21:44.369
may that Bosa made to some of the the big -ass

00:21:44.369 --> 00:21:46.910
bites he was taking Oh, man, yeah, Mr. Action

00:21:46.910 --> 00:21:50.609
game. Yeah Yeah, everybody saw it but that but

00:21:50.609 --> 00:21:52.910
that's that's that's what a high -end veteran

00:21:52.910 --> 00:21:55.069
will do for you, right? he'll make those adjustments

00:21:55.069 --> 00:21:57.089
in game and and I thought he had a really good

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one listen, I mean it was Not a lot of the lot

00:21:59.869 --> 00:22:02.170
of these guys played in the preseason either

00:22:02.170 --> 00:22:04.369
because they were banged up or they weren't healthy.

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And I think that has to factor into some of it

00:22:06.930 --> 00:22:10.450
as well. This is we cannot overstate. These are

00:22:10.450 --> 00:22:14.710
probably two of the three best teams in the AFC.

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And this was a super physical game for week one.

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Listen, we're going to look at the tape. And

00:22:20.099 --> 00:22:22.220
there was a lot of bad tape this defense put

00:22:22.220 --> 00:22:25.940
out there. But I don't think you throw the baby

00:22:25.940 --> 00:22:27.900
out with the bathwater. We've been saying for

00:22:27.900 --> 00:22:30.700
years, how come McDermott doesn't play the young

00:22:30.700 --> 00:22:32.579
guys, right? How come he doesn't let them take

00:22:32.579 --> 00:22:35.539
their lump? They took a ton of lumps yesterday.

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And because they've got a polished professional

00:22:39.059 --> 00:22:41.690
alien, at quarterback on the offensive line,

00:22:41.930 --> 00:22:43.990
that's going to buy those guys, I think, a longer

00:22:43.990 --> 00:22:46.029
time to develop and a longer time to hit that

00:22:46.029 --> 00:22:48.849
growth curve that we need them to hit. So it

00:22:48.849 --> 00:22:52.809
is game one of 17. The defense looked bad, but

00:22:52.809 --> 00:22:55.430
I would exercise patience before you start playing

00:22:55.430 --> 00:22:57.450
fantasy football out on the waiver wire and seeing

00:22:57.450 --> 00:22:59.490
what overpriced vets we can bring in, right?

00:23:00.569 --> 00:23:03.750
Yeah, no, absolutely. I think it's a question.

00:23:04.369 --> 00:23:07.490
It's like you said that between the safeties,

00:23:07.869 --> 00:23:10.569
Certainly the corners and definitely the defensive

00:23:10.569 --> 00:23:13.650
line Everybody playing together wasn't a thing

00:23:13.650 --> 00:23:15.690
for any appreciable amount of the preseason.

00:23:15.829 --> 00:23:17.910
It's they don't have they don't have reps together

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They don't all have reps together. So and you

00:23:20.210 --> 00:23:22.369
could tell from all that miscommunication Oh

00:23:22.369 --> 00:23:24.529
my god, and it's gonna take it's gonna take a

00:23:24.529 --> 00:23:26.690
minute and especially because I think that Dorian

00:23:26.690 --> 00:23:29.529
strong being one a rookie and two then getting

00:23:29.529 --> 00:23:31.730
the start against the Ravens and against the

00:23:31.730 --> 00:23:34.559
root technician like say flowers He was just

00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:37.220
getting his lunch eaten all day. But he did come

00:23:37.220 --> 00:23:40.079
up and he came up and tried to lay a lick on

00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:42.480
Derek, tried to lay a lick on Derek Henry a few

00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:44.799
times and came over with a couple of tackles.

00:23:44.859 --> 00:23:48.220
So he wasn't terrible. There's things to like

00:23:48.220 --> 00:23:50.539
about him. It's a lot to be said that there are

00:23:50.539 --> 00:23:53.859
players like Jamarcus Ingram on this roster who

00:23:53.859 --> 00:23:57.200
have been in the system and he did not get replaced.

00:23:57.579 --> 00:23:59.259
Throughout the throughout the whole the whole

00:23:59.259 --> 00:24:01.960
game. So yes the code the coaching stuff is letting

00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:04.259
these guys take their lumps And and I think to

00:24:04.259 --> 00:24:05.920
like to your point that's something that we've

00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:08.200
been super critical of McDermott for in the past

00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:10.519
But yeah, he he kind of stuck with his men in

00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:13.559
this one and gave them a chance Yeah, I would

00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:15.960
very much like to see way less of AJ at Vanessa.

00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:21.839
He his limited snaps were very poor Yes. Yes.

00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:24.880
He did not much value added in this particular

00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:29.390
game He is not a player that you like he's literally

00:24:29.390 --> 00:24:34.450
an unplayable option against the Ravens He does

00:24:34.450 --> 00:24:36.829
not like we've seen him against the Ravens and

00:24:36.829 --> 00:24:39.529
multiple matchups He's never been the AJ open

00:24:39.529 --> 00:24:41.410
as though they were like, oh man. All right,

00:24:41.650 --> 00:24:43.769
that was a good play and it never never once

00:24:43.769 --> 00:24:46.910
It just gets completely destroyed he does. He

00:24:46.910 --> 00:24:49.450
does that. And that that's a dude that the bills

00:24:49.450 --> 00:24:53.269
have given plenty of runway to develop and grow.

00:24:53.589 --> 00:24:56.150
And, you know, there's been a lot of talk of,

00:24:56.210 --> 00:24:58.990
you know, before Carter got her was Carter the

00:24:58.990 --> 00:25:02.190
cut candidate. When Ogan Joby and Michael Hoy

00:25:02.190 --> 00:25:06.769
came back, I, I think there is a world where

00:25:06.769 --> 00:25:10.490
you just trade AJ epineza for whatever you can

00:25:10.490 --> 00:25:12.809
get for him with his bag of salt balls. Ham sandwich,

00:25:13.089 --> 00:25:16.029
right? But there is a world that when Hoyt is

00:25:16.029 --> 00:25:19.089
ready to come back, there's a strong argument

00:25:19.089 --> 00:25:21.490
that Eponeza should not be on the roster. Yes,

00:25:21.710 --> 00:25:25.869
I agree with that. So we've kind of been all

00:25:25.869 --> 00:25:28.250
over the map. Do you want to talk about our Lord

00:25:28.250 --> 00:25:31.569
and Savior Josh Allen for a minute? Yeah, he's

00:25:31.569 --> 00:25:37.619
awesome. I mean, what else can you really say?

00:25:37.700 --> 00:25:39.460
I mean, I kind of talked about a little bit already,

00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:42.140
like, and again, this is no shade of Joe Brady,

00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:45.220
but what Josh saw developing on the field, he

00:25:45.220 --> 00:25:48.220
went with, you know what I mean? Um, and he played,

00:25:48.460 --> 00:25:51.880
listen, this was the, there was a lot of stuff

00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:54.599
in this game where we're like, man, we've been

00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:56.579
making the coaches to do some of this, like let

00:25:56.579 --> 00:25:59.480
the young guys play. And maybe some of it too

00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:01.740
much, you know, be careful what you wish for,

00:26:01.740 --> 00:26:06.519
but to Josh was playing with pace in this. I

00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:08.019
mean, part of it was because they didn't have

00:26:08.019 --> 00:26:09.599
a lot of clock to work with in the second half

00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:11.799
and they were down by so much. But like there

00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.259
were points where that Baltimore Ravens defense

00:26:14.259 --> 00:26:17.359
defensive line was absolutely gassed. Josh Allen

00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:19.460
was going no huddle. He was going quick huddle.

00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:22.559
He was keeping the pace of the game. flowing

00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:26.599
and he is at his statistical and performance

00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:29.880
best when he can operate a quick timing offense

00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.299
like that. We've set it for forever. Josh is

00:26:32.299 --> 00:26:34.690
great in all phases of the game. but he's as

00:26:34.690 --> 00:26:36.910
least effective when he's stuck in the mud for

00:26:36.910 --> 00:26:39.829
35 seconds trying to call out checks to his offensive

00:26:39.829 --> 00:26:44.470
line. This was Josh literally making quick reads,

00:26:44.730 --> 00:26:47.369
pre -snap, and slinging it. See it, sling it.

00:26:47.390 --> 00:26:51.289
See it, sling it. Bam, bam, bam. Play every 24

00:26:51.289 --> 00:26:56.009
seconds or less. Exactly. And a lot of people,

00:26:56.450 --> 00:26:58.670
I've always, when people are like, oh, you know.

00:26:58.750 --> 00:27:00.829
uh, why don't they just run that all the time?

00:27:00.910 --> 00:27:03.910
Like Jay gun, you know, I, I, I caution people,

00:27:03.910 --> 00:27:06.970
right? Like it's like, oh, they're like, NFL

00:27:06.970 --> 00:27:09.869
has changed a little bit since those times. Like

00:27:09.869 --> 00:27:11.849
that's not as effective today as you think it

00:27:11.849 --> 00:27:14.950
would be. But then when that type of thing happens

00:27:14.950 --> 00:27:16.809
in this game in the last five minutes, I'm like,

00:27:16.809 --> 00:27:20.210
man, maybe they're on us, you know, because like

00:27:20.210 --> 00:27:22.289
we've, we've all seen it as Bill's fans now for

00:27:22.289 --> 00:27:25.089
years when he is in those two minute and short.

00:27:25.509 --> 00:27:29.009
operation, you know, windows, he is basically

00:27:29.009 --> 00:27:31.849
flawless. And so it's like, can we do this for

00:27:31.849 --> 00:27:35.430
a whole game? Like, could we, but I get it. I

00:27:35.430 --> 00:27:38.690
get that that's, and I'm, you know, it's the

00:27:38.690 --> 00:27:40.349
same old thing we always say, like how much of

00:27:40.349 --> 00:27:43.170
it is the coaches holding him back by doing things

00:27:43.170 --> 00:27:44.670
the way they think they should be doing them?

00:27:44.930 --> 00:27:47.710
And how much of it is like, oh, well in pressure

00:27:47.710 --> 00:27:50.869
times you can apply turbo, but the tank is not

00:27:50.869 --> 00:27:54.400
infinite, right? Like, yeah. Yes. And I mean,

00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:56.500
keep in mind for speed reference. Yeah. Yes.

00:27:56.579 --> 00:27:58.779
That's awesome, by the way. Um, a little bit

00:27:58.779 --> 00:28:01.240
of NOS in the conversation, but, um, I mean,

00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.299
also to keep in mind, again, be careful what

00:28:04.299 --> 00:28:06.420
you wish for. They were doing this one playing

00:28:06.420 --> 00:28:10.420
behind, uh, cause they needed to the bills using

00:28:10.420 --> 00:28:13.480
this as a front running strategy. the quicker

00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:15.680
they're off the field, the quicker the defense

00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:17.759
is back on the field. And that's got to factor

00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:20.000
into some of this equation too is why they don't

00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.940
always run that J gun style no huddle offense.

00:28:22.940 --> 00:28:25.079
Like there's got to be some sort of time of possession

00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:27.140
strategy because your defense is just not there

00:28:27.140 --> 00:28:30.640
yet. Just not there yet. Yep. So yeah, no, I

00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.940
think that I for the receivers, Keon Coleman

00:28:33.940 --> 00:28:39.700
with 100 yard game touchdown. He, he looks like

00:28:39.700 --> 00:28:43.890
he could round into being a absolutely phenomenal

00:28:43.890 --> 00:28:46.890
wide receiver too in the league right like I

00:28:46.890 --> 00:28:49.289
don't think he's ever gonna achieve that kind

00:28:49.289 --> 00:28:53.609
of big -time Justin Jefferson type role where

00:28:53.609 --> 00:28:57.009
he's gonna get 12 to 15 targets every game because

00:28:57.009 --> 00:28:59.990
he doesn't have that separation ability but he

00:28:59.990 --> 00:29:02.509
he showed a lot like he definitely looked different

00:29:02.509 --> 00:29:04.730
I'll say that he looked different from last year

00:29:04.730 --> 00:29:08.329
he looked even better than the best he put on

00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.000
He looked better than Keon Coleman against the

00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:13.740
Seahawks, which you know is my, that's my like

00:29:13.740 --> 00:29:16.000
bellwether of what is a good Keon Coleman game.

00:29:16.339 --> 00:29:18.720
He looked better than that. So I was very, I

00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:21.779
was very, very happy with him there. I think

00:29:21.779 --> 00:29:24.599
that Khalil Shakir definitely looks like he's

00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:27.440
got some rust to work off from coming, just coming

00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:31.000
back for this being his first game action. And

00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:35.099
we were both, you know, taking huge mega dumps

00:29:35.099 --> 00:29:37.299
on Josh Palmer through the first three quarters.

00:29:38.710 --> 00:29:42.309
But deservedly so. Yes. Deservedly so, because

00:29:42.309 --> 00:29:43.950
we're like, oh, what do we spend all this money

00:29:43.950 --> 00:29:46.650
on for somebody who looks like basically a practice

00:29:46.650 --> 00:29:51.309
squad talent? Separation God. I know. And then

00:29:51.309 --> 00:29:53.529
he showed up and did some amazing things. And

00:29:53.529 --> 00:29:55.809
then just one more note on offensive talent.

00:29:55.970 --> 00:29:59.250
I think that James Cook and Dalton Kincaid are

00:29:59.250 --> 00:30:01.930
going to be major motors in this offense. Oh,

00:30:01.930 --> 00:30:04.369
got you. Both. I mean, James Cook, we knew and

00:30:04.369 --> 00:30:09.089
he looked the part right. We know he's not a

00:30:09.089 --> 00:30:12.430
run into the teeth of the defense and the Ravens

00:30:12.430 --> 00:30:14.970
defense is by poundage, one of the biggest in

00:30:14.970 --> 00:30:18.410
the league. And so it was not going to be easy

00:30:18.410 --> 00:30:20.809
for him and it certainly didn't look it. But

00:30:20.809 --> 00:30:23.250
some of his catch and run, some of his ways to

00:30:23.250 --> 00:30:25.509
like squirt through seams that didn't seem there,

00:30:25.789 --> 00:30:29.990
seemed to be there. That dude is the dude. Yeah.

00:30:29.990 --> 00:30:32.049
And then I think that, you know, a healthy Dolan

00:30:32.049 --> 00:30:34.940
Kincaid could be really special. His god you

00:30:34.940 --> 00:30:37.759
just see it when he catches the ball like his

00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.900
his his smooth the smooth transition He makes

00:30:40.900 --> 00:30:44.119
from point -of -catch Immediately into his run

00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.660
like it's just he looks like a wide receiver

00:30:46.660 --> 00:30:50.559
out there. It's wild. It's wild No, I mean offense

00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.619
I think full of bright spots if the bills had

00:30:53.619 --> 00:30:56.420
not been down 40 to 25 I think we have been like

00:30:56.420 --> 00:31:00.470
man First week out, Josh hadn't played with the

00:31:00.470 --> 00:31:03.289
squad, you know, guys battling injuries. 25 points

00:31:03.289 --> 00:31:05.309
on this Ravens defense and still time to play

00:31:05.309 --> 00:31:07.150
left in the fourth quarter. That's pretty good,

00:31:07.150 --> 00:31:15.130
right? I think you're muted. Shit. All right.

00:31:15.150 --> 00:31:17.609
You have to trim that or don't. Leave it. I don't

00:31:17.609 --> 00:31:21.650
care. Blooper reel. Yeah, right. Yeah, that takes.

00:31:22.470 --> 00:31:24.490
Yeah, no, I think we absolutely would have been

00:31:24.490 --> 00:31:26.990
super happy with them like integrating some pieces

00:31:26.990 --> 00:31:29.109
of this offense that we were waiting to see.

00:31:30.269 --> 00:31:32.869
I struggled and I think I sent this to you in

00:31:32.869 --> 00:31:34.390
the text, you know, while we were watching the

00:31:34.390 --> 00:31:38.589
game that the Joe Brady like quick whip screens

00:31:38.589 --> 00:31:42.630
to the outside. It's that was just that was the

00:31:42.630 --> 00:31:46.099
Ravens. manufacturing the looks they wanted from

00:31:46.099 --> 00:31:49.240
our offense by knowing how to line up. They basically,

00:31:49.500 --> 00:31:52.920
they had his number. They're like, okay, if we,

00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.099
if we have this sort of coverage look, Josh Allen's

00:31:56.099 --> 00:31:57.599
gonna check to like the little whip screamed

00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.240
outside. We're just gonna freaking, you know,

00:32:00.380 --> 00:32:02.500
rally to the ball, tackle them for a loss. Rally

00:32:02.500 --> 00:32:05.059
to the ball, tackle them for a short game. Next

00:32:05.059 --> 00:32:06.779
thing you know, it's third and seven and we can

00:32:06.779 --> 00:32:09.559
send all the art years back, right? Like that,

00:32:09.940 --> 00:32:12.440
they gotta figure that out. I'm tired of that

00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:14.019
because that's that's carried over from last

00:32:14.019 --> 00:32:15.819
year. That was still happening in the AFC Championship

00:32:15.819 --> 00:32:18.619
against Kansas City. Yep. There's a there's a

00:32:18.619 --> 00:32:20.660
lot of carryover mistakes from last year. I think

00:32:20.660 --> 00:32:23.420
they needed to iron out. Yeah. Again, though,

00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.700
all of that being said, it's a huge benefit that

00:32:27.700 --> 00:32:29.779
they are one to know with the benefit to work

00:32:29.779 --> 00:32:32.680
on these things and in pole position already

00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:35.299
and what is sure to be a competitive run for

00:32:35.299 --> 00:32:39.539
the one seed in the AFC. And they get to work

00:32:39.539 --> 00:32:41.440
on the mistakes from that position of power,

00:32:41.539 --> 00:32:46.940
as opposed to being 0 -1 with a loss to a direct

00:32:46.940 --> 00:32:49.140
competitor for that one seat of the Buffalo Ravens.

00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:53.079
It is huge that the Chiefs lost, Ravens lost

00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.940
to the Bills, and the rest of the AFC East lost.

00:32:56.140 --> 00:32:59.140
That's crazy. It's the best start you want, and

00:32:59.140 --> 00:33:00.519
now they have three of the next four at home.

00:33:00.700 --> 00:33:04.019
Exactly, without a doubt. All right, man. Do

00:33:04.019 --> 00:33:06.079
you want to quickly review our prediction sure

00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.140
to go wrong? See where we landed? Yeah, sure.

00:33:08.259 --> 00:33:10.779
The only one that we had in relation to this

00:33:10.779 --> 00:33:14.140
particular game was a score prediction. Which

00:33:14.140 --> 00:33:18.500
sucked. Yeah, we both were way under we thought

00:33:18.500 --> 00:33:20.740
it was going to be under the 50 .5 and it ended

00:33:20.740 --> 00:33:24.480
up being 81 points. So that was way off. And

00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:29.160
then and then Dan picked against the Bills, Ravens

00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.380
27, Bills 20. It was like that score in the second

00:33:32.380 --> 00:33:35.440
quarter. Yeah, exactly. And then I picked for

00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:39.319
the Bills with an even lower score of 2420. At

00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:41.720
least I got the team right, but we were both,

00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.240
you know, we were almost picking half the points

00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.440
in the game. So, yeah, we were way, way off.

00:33:46.579 --> 00:33:50.339
That's okay. We, you know, had some other prop

00:33:50.339 --> 00:33:53.200
bets that were, you know, set for the whole season.

00:33:54.579 --> 00:33:58.630
And I don't think... I think the only one that

00:33:58.630 --> 00:34:01.349
matters for this game that kind of builds on

00:34:01.349 --> 00:34:05.230
your, you know, cache is that the fifth prop

00:34:05.230 --> 00:34:07.430
I put out was Dalton Cacade proves his worth

00:34:07.430 --> 00:34:10.210
as T .E. Titan 1. You said you think he will,

00:34:10.269 --> 00:34:13.010
and I said I don't think he will. And just with

00:34:13.010 --> 00:34:15.550
the one game sample, I think he has so far proven

00:34:15.550 --> 00:34:17.389
that he's capable of that, so. I would agree.

00:34:17.630 --> 00:34:21.530
Yeah. I would agree. We almost skipped probably

00:34:21.530 --> 00:34:25.480
the most important part, and that is... 57 -year

00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.980
-old Matthew Prater. Had that on my bingo card.

00:34:29.059 --> 00:34:33.559
Kicking the game winner. I mentioned in the Bill's

00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:37.420
subreddit that he looks like a 50 -plus -year

00:34:37.420 --> 00:34:40.019
-old man who spent way too much for the Halloween

00:34:40.019 --> 00:34:43.559
party and bought a legit NFL jersey and whole

00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:47.199
outfit, game -worn stuff. Because when he was

00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:48.920
interviewed after the thing, I was like, that's...

00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.199
That's somebody's grandpa. Is that a player?

00:34:52.099 --> 00:34:56.599
Dude, he's our age. I know he's our old. That's

00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:58.920
so old for the NFL. Dude, do you want to know

00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.920
what my wife said to me after we posted the last

00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:05.500
episode? I put some shorts on Instagram reels

00:35:05.500 --> 00:35:07.980
and one of them popped up in her feed on Instagram

00:35:07.980 --> 00:35:11.400
and she's like, oh, I'm like, what? She's like,

00:35:11.739 --> 00:35:15.039
you and JJ are way too gray to be putting your

00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:18.550
faces on YouTube. Well, my brother -in -law.

00:35:18.949 --> 00:35:21.429
Brutal. That's rough. Yeah. My brother -in -law.

00:35:21.550 --> 00:35:24.949
What's up, Jim? He asked me today, he's like,

00:35:25.050 --> 00:35:27.409
what's the link for your podcast? I was like,

00:35:27.409 --> 00:35:29.929
oh, here's the YouTube link. And here's a pod

00:35:29.929 --> 00:35:33.690
only if it's just audio only. And I was like,

00:35:33.809 --> 00:35:35.469
if you don't want to look at her ugly mugs, that's

00:35:35.469 --> 00:35:40.000
probably the better option for you. Well, I say

00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.639
this to your, I say this to your family and to

00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.079
my wife. Uh, you know, over a thousand views

00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:46.739
on YouTube will prove you wrong. So there you

00:35:46.739 --> 00:35:49.760
go. Hey, there he wants to look at us. Even if

00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.699
it's to mock. That's right. That's I assume that's

00:35:52.699 --> 00:35:55.860
what 99 % of it is. And then the other 1 % arrived

00:35:55.860 --> 00:35:58.900
at the page by mistake. So there you go. We'll

00:35:58.900 --> 00:36:03.619
welcome them too. Hello fellow traveler. Oh Man

00:36:03.619 --> 00:36:05.960
so glad we decided to settle in and talk about

00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:09.380
this game JJ. It was a good one For you folks

00:36:09.380 --> 00:36:11.599
listening at home, we are dropping this reaction

00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:14.079
pod here on Monday We will be back to you with

00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:16.539
our normally regularly scheduled pod drop on

00:36:16.539 --> 00:36:19.719
Friday our pregame preview of bills versus jets

00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.239
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00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.420
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