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Alright, welcome back to the Buffalo Bread Podcast.

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We're in off -season mode and Dan and I have

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our annual draft preview where we look at kind

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of what the Bills are hoping to do or maybe hoping

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to get done in a couple of nights here on Thursday

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night, the 24th when the draft kicks off in Green

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Bay, Wisconsin. How are we doing, Dan? I'm doing

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good, man. So happy that it is voluntary workout

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time this year. Draft season is upon us. You

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can almost smell the apple pie cooking as autumn

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approaches and football season is trying to kick

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off. I can't wait, man. I'm so stoked. We're

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just going to skip right over summer. And in

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the north in the northeast, it's like the best

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time we have. But, you know, we'll just jump

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right to fall. Oh, oh, that's a hot take for

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me. Oh, no, no, I'm a fall guy. I'm an upstate

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New York fall guy. Summer is the best season.

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I don't know, man. It's humid. It's raining.

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I got to mow my lawn. Give me the fall. Pumpkin

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spice lattes all around for Dan. All right. So

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to share to share Well, let's jump into it and

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let's let's kind of start with Ranking where

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we believe the Buffalo Bills top needs are in

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this draft Where would you go if if all other

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things are equal if the board is of if every

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position is available What is your pick the position

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wise for that with that 30th overall? You know,

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I've been saying this for a couple of years.

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I I understand what the Philadelphia Eagles did

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to the Kansas City Chiefs in the Super Bowl was

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a product of just a vicious defensive line. They

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did a really great job. What was underrated about

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that, though, was the fact that there were just

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athletic freaks at the back end of that defense.

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And Keon Mitchell and Cooper Dijon are Cooper

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Dijon rather sorry. that we're just locking down

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Kansas City's wide receivers. I am going to put

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secondary as my number one need. I know this

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is an unpopular prick with a lot of Bills fans

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that want a Derek Harmon or a Kenneth Grant,

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but for me, no matter the situation, we've seen

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this Buffalo Bills four -man rush struggle at

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many times to get pressure on opposing QB. Coverage

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needs to hold up. I think the Buffalo Bills need

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to flip their approach get a bunch of freaks

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that can cover everywhere on the field and give

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your defensive line an Opportunity to get a sack

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as opposed to working at the other way around

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So I'm actually going CB man. I think they need

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some good cover guys some guys with some man

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traits But you know, what do I know I've only

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been saying it for three years and it hasn't

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happened. So So I mean, okay, and this is this

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is where we depart because it's the classic question

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of what is more important coverage or pass rush,

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right? And I think that the Buffalo Bills having

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only made two defensive line choices in the first

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round in the entirety of Brandon Bean and Sean

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McDermott's time on task tells me that Picking

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as high as they possibly can a defensive lineman

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an impact starter of which this draft Class has

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a number of excellent impact starters that you

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can get later in the round better than any recent

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memory of draft, you know, and for that reason,

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I think that, you know, the needs line up with

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this draft class in a way where for me, it's

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defensive interior with some pass rush juice.

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For the Bill's Mafia out there who are like,

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I need a 350 pound, you know, guy, I need a Ted

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Washington. I need somebody who's a giant mountain

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of a man. I'm not there. I just need the best

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combination of size and athleticism at defensive

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tackle that you can get and I can make that work,

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right? Like they have to have a pass rush upside

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because having picked Ed Oliver and then much

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later on Greg Rousseau at the end of the round,

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that's it for your premier kind of blue chip

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investments in the defensive line. And then you

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have others, you know, free agents all across

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the board, old vets, you know, picking up Joey

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Bosa, you've got AJ Appaneza, who was a later

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second round pick, like they just need talent

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investment in that first round. That's why it's

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D line for me. And that could be edge or interior,

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but I prefer interior because behind Dequan Jones,

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it's literally, I don't know. Who you know Zion

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Logue like who do they have? Yeah, I mean no

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one really with Ogden Joby being on that six

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game suspension right listen I I I think two

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things can be true and I agree with you that

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it is a Travesty that the Buffalo Bills have

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not invested more draft capital in the defensive

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line Especially after taking yet Oliver where

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they took him in it with a top 10 pick the year.

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He was drafted That being said though, they play

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so many teams, dude, that just, they get rid

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of the ball so quickly. They're gonna play Cincinnati

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this year. Joe Burrow gets rid of the ball in

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two seconds. Tua gets rid of the ball in two

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seconds. We see him twice a year. All these teams

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that have not developed the advanced running

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game that Baltimore, Buffalo, and Philadelphia

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have developed are all leaning into this quick

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game as an extension of the run game, and for

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me, it doesn't matter how good your defensive

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line is. There is no one in the league that is

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getting to a QB in under two seconds, so you

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need your coverage to hold up. And I think there's

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some defensive line prospects later on in the

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draft that they can get that will help bolster

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the ranks there. To me, if there is a blue chip

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dude at cornerback that has an actual athletic

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profile that the Bills have been afraid to take,

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I want them to take the plunge. I want them to

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do it. But I definitely get where you're coming

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from. And I'll say this, I get where you're coming

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from to one of the biggest frustrations I have

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with... the Sean McDermott slash Bobby Babich

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defense is the rotation of defensive lines where

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they're like, let's have, instead of having four

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premier blue chip athletes, let's have eight

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mediocre people rotate 50 % of the snaps each.

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A lot of B plus guys. Let's have a lot of B plus

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guys out there. It's a money ball approach. And

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so to your point and agreement with your point,

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a cornerback in this defense plays every snap.

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The 100 % snap guys are your starting outside

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corner. corners, and then your 80 % snap guy

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is the nickel with Tyron Johnson. And so I get

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the investment in terms of just a pure hours

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on the field standpoint, having a CB that you

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plug and play day one starter, much value in

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respect to that position. And further to your

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point, there is a And to mine as well. There's

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a lot of depth at the defensive line in this

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draft. There's a chance you get somebody who

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is around not around one level impact starter

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on day two, but really a solid every down starter

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on day two Yeah, and the Buffalo Bills, JJ, they've

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got 10 picks on the draft. They have the most

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picks out of any AFC AFC playoff team from the

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previous year. They're going to they're going

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to work. I would assume Bean is going to work

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some magic to get back up into the third round

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to regain that pick that they lost in the trade

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for Amari Cooper and figure out a way to have

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the Buffalo Bills get four top 100 picks, which

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would just further allow them to exploit some

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of that starter caliber depth that we both feel

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is sitting in this draft. I think we both agree

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on this point the Buffalo Bills just need dudes.

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They need some studs They need some ceiling razors

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on this defense That is what Philadelphia had

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and that whether it was on the defensive line

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whether it was in the defensive secondary They

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just had dudes that could play football true

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athletes that could transcend the scheme and

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that's what the bills need Yep, let Josh Allen

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elevate Role players on offense and invest to

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make to have difference makers on defense That's

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what this that's what the theme of the draft

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if I had to nail down what I hope the theme for

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This team is it's it's that all right, man. I

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love it So where do you want lower? Do you want

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to start because the bills are gonna pick here

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at number 30 this year? They don't have a third

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round pick. They've got two picks in the second

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round 56 and 62 Correct. Which so let's start

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with you. Let's start with your ideal. Let's

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call it dream scenario. So it would be defensive

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line. Who are some of those guys that you would

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want to target if the board fell the way that

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you hope it falls, assuming the bills don't make

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a trade up? Yeah. So for me, one of these four

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players, one of these five players falling to

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the bills in that bottom of the first round of

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the defensive line. Donovan Iziraku from Boston

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College who's a non -traditional body type for

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the Bills. pound, you know, edge setter who can

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maintain in the run and then have some pass rush

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upside. That's not Donovan Izoraku. He's like

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6 '2, 240. And so he has much more of an outside

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linebacker in a 3 -4 scheme body type. But the

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Bills have shown with the signing of Von Miller,

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they're willing to kind of play in that field.

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So Donovan Izoraku, I think he has one of the

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most natural pass rushers and he has the bend

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the edge ability that you like The Bills have

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not had on their team other than the first four

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games or whatever when Von Miller came over.

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Michael Williams, I think is also excellent.

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Nick Scowerton out of Texas A &M has the body

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type. Those are the edges I would consider at

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30. So those three edges are there for me. I'm

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out on Shamar Stewart. I just don't think that,

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and I know you're out too, somebody who has those

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incredible Miles Garrett level athletic measurables,

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but wasn't able to turn that into production

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in either tackles for loss or sacks in the college

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level. I don't think they're going to be able

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to find that in the NFL. We might be totally

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wrong, but I just don't I don't buy it. If he

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gets drafted by the Eagles, he will. Well, that's

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the thing is like he's got the athletic skills

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to clean up sacks that other people, you know,

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create from their pressures. That's possible.

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But the Bills don't have that line. So I'm out

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on him for the Bills and then for the defensive

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tackles. And these are my two my two sort of

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dream scenarios. Kenneth Grant and Derek Harmon.

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God, either one of those. Give me one of the

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two of those honorable mention to Walter Nolan.

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I just really like the way he plays. He's got

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a hot motor. Doesn't give up on plays, but you

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know, I wouldn't. I think they'd be overdrafting

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him if they took him at the end of the first.

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I think so. I think so. I think Walter Nolan.

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Yeah. I mean, I've seen some some mocks, you

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know, it's guest season where he's like going

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as high as 24. But I think that's a little bit

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of an overdraft. So those are my that's my like

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dream scenario for the first round is one of

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those five or six players. And, you know, to

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your preference, if Jaday Baron or Will Johnson

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or Trey Amos are there, then I'm like really

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conflicted. Yes, based on should. Yeah. If if

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they're there and Kenneth Grant and Derek Harmon

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are gone, I'm probably going to flip to CB. Yeah,

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I mean and if any one of them three is there

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dude Trey Amos 61 195 has the arm length the

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intelligence the zone capabilities of the bills

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look for and he has legitimate Polish with man

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technique as well. I would love it if this dude

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fell to the bills I've seen him mocked a couple

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of times at pick 30 to the bills. I think out

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of all the CBs I think the bills would really

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like a guy like Trey Amos and I think sneakily

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Jade Baron out of Texas I agree with you if he's

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sitting there at 30 Here's what he doesn't give

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you right away He is not like a lockdown outside

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corner. This is this. This dude is this year's

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Brian Branch. Right. Weiner. He's a little bit

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of a tweener. But, dude, Bobby Babich would have

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an opportunity to do some super sick things with

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Baron in the mix. And he gives us a legitimate

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successor, pending what Taquan Hardy, you know,

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ends up being able to do in OTAs and training

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camp this year. He gives us a legitimate. A plus

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successor to Taryn Johnson, which I love Taryn

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Johnson. We all love Taryn Johnson. That dude

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throws around his 511 frame with a reckless a

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recklessness that Josh Allen throws around his

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6 -5 frame You know what I mean and 511 don't

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hold up the same as 6 -5. I said some injuries

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He's entering his year 29 season I have seen

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that dude and run fits disappear into piles of

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men twice his size and I find myself holding

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my breath hoping he will come out of it he just

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has a lot of tread on the tires and if you can

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get a guy like Baron with the 30th pick. Not

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only is there some immediate fun dime package

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stuff that Babich can do with both Taron Johnson

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and Baron on the field at the same time, but

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you shore up what is an insanely important position

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for you for the long term and finding your replacement

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for Johnson. So dude, if Baron's there, I love

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it. Staying on the cornerback kick. We talked

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about Baron. We talked about Amos. Siobhan Ravel

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is a dude who a lot of Bills fans have been tracking.

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pending what his health outlook looks like. If

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he can keep that four, three speed with that

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six, two, 200 pound frame, this is a dude that

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translates to zone, has real man capabilities,

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and you can grow into your system in a way that's

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gonna make him a legitimate outside corner. So

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I like him there at 30 as well. Let's say all

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these guys are gone and the Buffalo Bills are

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forced to go either defensive back more generally.

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Or they go defensive line, which I agree with

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you is a big need here I'm looking I'm looking

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at a guy like Malachi Starks who for me it would

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be the dream of dreams of Starks falls to 30

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He can do all the stuff that Micah hide could

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do. He will allow Cole Bishop and Taylor rap

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to play closer to the line of scrimmage, which

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is their comfort zone. It feels like a bit of

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an excess at 30 when you've already brought in

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Forest, you've resigned Hamlin, you have Rap,

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you have Bishop, but Malachi Starks is really

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the piece. that sets that center fielder need

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to rest for the Buffalo Bills in the safety room.

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And if a dude of that caliber falls to 30, I'm

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hopping all over that. And then defensive line.

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I mean, I think we both agree. I've got Derek

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Harman slightly above Kenneth Grant. I know a

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lot of Bills mafia are hoping for Kenneth Grant

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at this point because he is the big. Body guy

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that can eat up double teams can free up at Oliver

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But dude when it comes to pure pass rust situations

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if Derek Harmon is there and you're talking about

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third and eight Third and nine where the Buffalo

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Bills had an issue getting off the field last

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year You get immediate pocket compression teaming

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up Harmon and at Oliver together And I just love

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that pick and then I think this is probably a

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little rich for pick 30 But I love to leak Williams

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out of Ohio State. He's another big body dude

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six three, pushing 329, maybe 330, depending

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on where the scales are at that day. But he's

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another dude who kind of fills that Jordan Phillips

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type of role and can be a really solid backup

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to Dequan Jones. Yeah, I like Tyler Williams.

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I think they'd be overdrafting to pick him at

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30. And it would really be a situation that I'd

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be taking him if nothing else was available and

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the CBs were not the impact players. I agree

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completely on Malachi Starks. It would be kind

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of a departure from a need, but. His value is

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so high that it would be it'd be like passing

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on who was the the safety out of Notre Dame that

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the Yeah, it'd be like passing on Kyle Hamilton

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dropping right? Yeah, you'd be passing on somebody

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who's like an actual difference maker who fell

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kind of to a place on the board that you were

00:16:22.649 --> 00:16:25.809
not expecting them. And it is, again, a deep

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draft for the defensive line, the kind of draft

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that if some of the key starter contributors

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are gone, you just wait because your next tier,

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the next shelf of players you have is in the

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second round anyway, where you have two picks.

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You know, if you can't get one of those top tier

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players and Malachi Starks is available because,

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yeah, I agree. Investing for the Bills in the

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safety position with a young talent who's going

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to be available on a cheap rookie deal for four

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years. That's, that's too important to this to

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the Sean McDermott defense and the Bobby Babich

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defense to not to not take that. Yeah, dude.

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What are your thoughts on Nick M and worry because

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he's a dude who's likely going on the first round.

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The athletic profile jumps off the page. Oh,

00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:08.039
yeah. Six, six, three, two, twenty, four, three

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speed. He's a ball hawk. Super intelligent. You

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listen to his teammates talk about him and he

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can pretty much fit any scheme. That being said,

00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:21.440
when you watch his film, there is a strong improvement

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in his play, the closer to the line of scrimmage

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he gets. And I think as freaky as he is athletically,

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he's already duplicating a set of skills that

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we have in Cole, Bishop and Taylor. Yeah. That's

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my problem with Nick Imanuari is I think that

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he reminds me of Tremaine Edmonds. He is an athletic

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outlier. Like he is an absolute special person

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when it comes to his athletic, his natural athletic

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ability. He has to see it and react to it as

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opposed to somebody like a Matt Milano who isn't

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an outlier special case physically. but has an

00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:04.000
intuition, you know, piles upon piles of intuition.

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That's also the difference for me with Malachi

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-Starks and Nick Imanwari is like Malachi -Starks

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has like the actual instincts that I look for

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in defensive kind of impact player. And I think

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even the safety from Notre Dame this year. Xavier

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Watts. Yeah, Xavier Watts also has those instincts.

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without the athleticism, like his athleticism

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is not great comparatively. Of course, Nicky

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Manuari was like basically setting all of the

00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:38.279
records for DB's. And so I don't, yeah, I don't

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see the fit for what the Bills need. I think

00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:44.220
that they could make it work if he was the best

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player available because I still think he's a

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first round talent. Just don't know that he's

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what he's not the player they need in that position

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because I also think Tremaine Edmonds was a first

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-round talent and I don't think that was a bad

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pick when they took it and you know, he put in

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his time, he was leading tackler on the team

00:19:00.789 --> 00:19:03.369
for four years, never was like a huge splash

00:19:03.369 --> 00:19:05.529
play guy. That's sort of how I feel about Nicky

00:19:05.529 --> 00:19:08.349
Manoir. He'd probably be a good pro and a reliable

00:19:08.349 --> 00:19:11.750
starter, but I don't think he'd be like a major

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change maker on the defense. What about Mike

00:19:14.650 --> 00:19:16.789
Green? Because I noticed you left him off your

00:19:16.789 --> 00:19:18.970
edge rusher list. What do you think about Mike

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Green out of Marshall? Led the FBS this year

00:19:22.569 --> 00:19:26.849
in sacks. He's got that similar kind of lighter

00:19:26.849 --> 00:19:30.420
profile, more But dude, I watch this film. I

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know there's all field issues. I watch this film

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and he just has a a ready -made set of moves

00:19:38.940 --> 00:19:42.359
to win at the point of attack that I think I

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think he translates into the league like Michael

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Parsons translate translate into the league That's

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that's that's heavy praise. He he has comply.

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Yeah No, I know you can play. I know he led FBS

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in sacks. He the off field issues are a little

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bit. Was he the one who was just arrested like

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somebody was just arrested? That wasn't him.

00:20:00.339 --> 00:20:02.539
That was one of the Georgia kids. I think that

00:20:02.539 --> 00:20:05.339
was was that Mikel Williams? Oh, maybe somebody.

00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:07.720
One of the edges. It was it was a Georgia player.

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Oh, was it a Georgia player got arrested? I want

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to. Damn, dude. No, and that's just looking at

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the facts. There was a meme or something I saw

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on the Twittersphere X or whatever and it was

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like George's alternative uniforms and it was

00:20:26.369 --> 00:20:28.589
a jumpsuit, like a prison jumpsuit. They've had

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a lot of people get arrested. That is not an

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untrue thing to say. Mike Green, I do like his

00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:41.039
game. I worry a little bit about how it translates

00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:44.259
to the NFL because I don't think he is an absolute

00:20:44.259 --> 00:20:48.059
outlier athletically. His speed and he does have

00:20:48.059 --> 00:20:51.599
bend, but to me it looks like college bend, not

00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:54.740
NFL. You know what I mean? For me to watch a

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defensive end in college and feel like they're

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going to make that kind of massive jump to the

00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:02.700
NFL and be able to translate it onto the field

00:21:02.700 --> 00:21:04.700
against bigger, longer tackles. That's the biggest

00:21:04.700 --> 00:21:06.940
thing is like college tackles aren't six, seven

00:21:06.940 --> 00:21:10.119
with 36 inch arms. Like not you, not always.

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And it's pretty rare those ones get drafted.

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And that's that's a smaller percentage of the

00:21:14.980 --> 00:21:17.740
offensive lineman. So that was my thing was watching

00:21:17.740 --> 00:21:20.640
Mike Green. I think it was he made a lot of really,

00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:23.660
really mediocre to poor offensive lineman look

00:21:23.660 --> 00:21:30.180
terrible. And I worry that that wouldn't be as

00:21:30.180 --> 00:21:35.259
effective. And I think that the last year draft

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pick that they made out of TCU, no. Who did they

00:21:40.660 --> 00:21:43.700
pick up in the fifth round last year? Javan Solomon.

00:21:43.859 --> 00:21:46.019
Javan Solomon. Javan Solomon has a little bit

00:21:46.019 --> 00:21:47.579
of that. Out of Troy. Yeah, out of Troy, you're

00:21:47.579 --> 00:21:50.759
right. Has a little bit of Mike Green. Mike Green's

00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:53.980
a better athlete. Javan Solomon in a bigger athlete.

00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:58.640
But Javon, I feel the same that like, oh, I see

00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:01.900
the skills and I see the like instincts and it

00:22:01.900 --> 00:22:03.299
looks good and the moves are, the hand fighting

00:22:03.299 --> 00:22:05.779
is good, the moves are there. I just, I think

00:22:05.779 --> 00:22:07.819
it would be a project a little bit. Yeah, fair

00:22:07.819 --> 00:22:11.400
enough. Is there a position, not necessarily

00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:14.900
a player, but is there a position outside of

00:22:14.900 --> 00:22:18.099
edge? Interior defensive line and cornerback.

00:22:18.099 --> 00:22:21.059
Let's say DB right quarterback safety Is there

00:22:21.059 --> 00:22:24.319
a position outside of those three or four that

00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:27.240
would surprise you if the bills went to it number

00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:31.720
30? Yeah, yeah, so I there it's lion season,

00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:34.720
right? So take this with a grain of salt, but

00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:37.559
there has been reputable NFL reporters saying

00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:41.259
that the bills are potentially looking at Linebacker

00:22:41.259 --> 00:22:43.299
with one of their topics. How do you feel about

00:22:43.299 --> 00:22:45.539
this scenario? I think that's I think that's

00:22:45.539 --> 00:22:48.579
a smoke screen. Because like, here's what we

00:22:48.579 --> 00:22:50.940
have. So the Bills have just locked up Terrell

00:22:50.940 --> 00:22:54.079
Bernard long term. So they have their like defensive

00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:56.700
signal caller center, you know, center fielder

00:22:56.700 --> 00:23:00.319
in the second, second level of the defense. Matt

00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:02.880
Milano restructured his deal. He's he's over

00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:05.700
30 and he restructured his deal to go into free

00:23:05.700 --> 00:23:09.720
agency after this coming season. And then, you

00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:12.789
know, they have Dorian Williams, who. looked

00:23:12.789 --> 00:23:14.869
better and better as the year went on last year.

00:23:15.430 --> 00:23:17.890
And so he I believe is kind of the heir apparent.

00:23:18.869 --> 00:23:25.410
They drafted the linebacker at a Fuon Olifosio

00:23:25.410 --> 00:23:27.869
out of Washington out of Washington last year.

00:23:28.460 --> 00:23:31.000
Unimpressive a question right like unimpressive

00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:33.279
So I can I can actually I can absolutely see

00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:36.079
linebacker being a need in this lead or in this

00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:39.140
draft I don't see it happening because the linebacker

00:23:39.140 --> 00:23:41.960
class is kind of weak Before the fourth round

00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:44.220
I think that they will make a pick at linebacker,

00:23:44.220 --> 00:23:45.900
but I don't think it's gonna be before the fourth

00:23:45.900 --> 00:23:50.180
round Poo Paul is Maybe a third rounder Chris

00:23:50.180 --> 00:23:53.529
Paul Chris Paul Jr. out of Mississippi. Yes.

00:23:53.789 --> 00:23:56.869
He's maybe a third rounder. That's the picture.

00:23:56.970 --> 00:23:58.750
And they've shown interest. He came on a visit.

00:23:59.650 --> 00:24:02.170
That's the kind of player I could see with that

00:24:02.170 --> 00:24:04.829
kind of coverage linebacker, speedy receiver,

00:24:05.710 --> 00:24:09.509
out of the slot, stifler. I could see coming

00:24:09.509 --> 00:24:11.789
in the third round if the Bills are able to trade

00:24:11.789 --> 00:24:14.210
back or trade into with some of their fourth

00:24:14.210 --> 00:24:18.819
and fifths to grab. Yeah. Fair enough. Any other

00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:20.519
positions that would surprise you? They're not

00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:22.359
taking an offensive lineman. No, they're not

00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:23.940
taking an offensive lineman. They're pretty stacked

00:24:23.940 --> 00:24:26.500
an offensive lineman. They're not taking a running

00:24:26.500 --> 00:24:30.839
back anywhere in the top three rounds. Wouldn't

00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.339
that be a message to send to James Cook? Well,

00:24:33.339 --> 00:24:36.660
I was just actually texting with my nephew about

00:24:36.660 --> 00:24:38.819
the bills, the upcoming draft plans. And I said,

00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:42.500
if the bills select a running back above the

00:24:42.500 --> 00:24:45.470
fifth round. James cook will be traded either

00:24:45.470 --> 00:24:49.049
on draft weekend or shortly after I Mean even

00:24:49.049 --> 00:24:52.029
even if yeah, I don't think they're going to

00:24:52.029 --> 00:24:54.369
either but it's a really deep running back class

00:24:54.369 --> 00:24:56.390
I do think they're gonna splash a picket running

00:24:56.390 --> 00:24:58.710
back. Do you think so? I think they are. Yeah,

00:24:59.009 --> 00:25:02.349
and I've held this belief even before James cook

00:25:02.349 --> 00:25:05.130
made his 15 million dollar Instagram demand.

00:25:05.309 --> 00:25:09.119
It's just it's such a deep class They are always

00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:11.880
splashing at this position in the draft be be

00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.900
it and UDFA territory or late round picks and

00:25:15.900 --> 00:25:18.920
with a class this deep and And cook going into

00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:21.519
a contract year. I there's no way they pass on

00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:24.420
somebody So I think they absolutely spend a fourth

00:25:24.420 --> 00:25:27.599
or even a fifth at some point on a running back

00:25:29.120 --> 00:25:32.180
wide receiver would actually surprise me if they

00:25:32.180 --> 00:25:34.599
went first round depending on who is on the board.

00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:37.119
I think we all assume Travis Hunter will be gone.

00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:40.500
We all assume Matthew Golden will be gone. And

00:25:40.500 --> 00:25:44.500
then beyond that, I'm not really invested necessarily

00:25:44.500 --> 00:25:48.500
in like a Luther Burden in the first round. The

00:25:48.500 --> 00:25:53.299
kid out of Ohio State. Amika Ibuka. I'm not really.

00:25:53.380 --> 00:25:55.400
I'm not really interested in him. I think it's

00:25:55.400 --> 00:26:00.160
a duplicative skill set with with Shakir. Yeah,

00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.220
right. We just we have a lot of slot guys. We

00:26:03.220 --> 00:26:05.819
need a dominant dude on the outside. Maybe Ken

00:26:05.819 --> 00:26:08.740
Coleman's that. But I would be really shocked

00:26:08.740 --> 00:26:11.980
if they went like with a Jaden Higgins, for example,

00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:18.200
or a Jalen Royals at Pick 30. I would also. Not

00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:21.059
I would also not be surprised if they traded

00:26:21.059 --> 00:26:22.980
out of the first round depending on how the board

00:26:22.980 --> 00:26:26.000
fell If you still have like a Jackson dart sitting

00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:28.799
there at 30 You've got a Jalen Milro sitting

00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.400
there at 30 and you've got a team like Cleveland

00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:34.539
or you've got a team like the Giants New Orleans

00:26:34.539 --> 00:26:36.900
or New Orleans who pick early on in the second

00:26:36.900 --> 00:26:39.319
round and they want to jump at one of those guys

00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:42.440
I could see the bills moving for for for the

00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:44.799
right deal Doing a pick -swap for a fourth and

00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:47.039
a third and then trading down to the second round

00:26:46.890 --> 00:26:50.109
I could see them doing that. Yeah, and I think

00:26:50.109 --> 00:26:53.549
that's actually kind of one of my nightmare scenarios

00:26:53.549 --> 00:26:56.670
is that they have a situation where there is

00:26:56.670 --> 00:26:59.150
not an interior defensive lineman, an edge, or

00:26:59.150 --> 00:27:02.329
a CB that they consider an impact starter day

00:27:02.329 --> 00:27:05.119
one. and they have to trade out because that's

00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:07.440
really that's really it for me. If none of those

00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:10.240
three positions are available and they that they

00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.400
could look at and be like that is an 80 percent

00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:14.779
or 70 percent snap guy on the line or that is

00:27:14.779 --> 00:27:18.759
a 100 percent outside corner starter. They're

00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:20.299
going to go they're probably going to look for

00:27:20.299 --> 00:27:21.960
trade partners and there's probably going to

00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:24.220
be trade partners with where the bills pick and

00:27:24.220 --> 00:27:26.940
the quarterback class and people wanting a fifth

00:27:26.940 --> 00:27:29.460
year option. Yeah, without a doubt, without a

00:27:29.460 --> 00:27:31.839
doubt. So that is going to be tempting for them.

00:27:32.299 --> 00:27:34.380
All right, you mentioned nightmare scenarios.

00:27:34.380 --> 00:27:36.279
I want to talk about some guys that we want to

00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:38.200
we would love to pick in the later rounds. But

00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.660
let's talk about first round nightmare scenario.

00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.240
What is your top nightmare scenario here? The

00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:47.440
top nightmare scenario is that the Buffalo Bills

00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:52.480
use their first pick on a wide receiver, and

00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:54.839
it's a wide receiver who has a similar profile

00:27:54.839 --> 00:28:01.829
to. Similar to profile to Gabe Davis, where they

00:28:01.829 --> 00:28:06.349
get the body catching, you know, four seven speed

00:28:06.349 --> 00:28:09.890
guy who's just a good football player. Like that's

00:28:09.890 --> 00:28:12.950
my absolute nightmare. It's that or it's picking

00:28:12.950 --> 00:28:17.069
a offensive tackle because the value was just

00:28:17.069 --> 00:28:21.970
too big or picking a slight framed tight end.

00:28:22.819 --> 00:28:25.839
to be their third tight end because, you know,

00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:30.099
they don't expect to get Greg back. So, yeah.

00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:34.440
Yeah. Oh, man, that that would be malpractice.

00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:36.339
I do think I do think they're going to splash

00:28:36.339 --> 00:28:37.859
it a tight end, too, because this is another

00:28:37.859 --> 00:28:42.289
really deep class. But I mean. Tyler Warren's

00:28:42.289 --> 00:28:44.789
not going to be available at 30. I'd be shocked

00:28:44.789 --> 00:28:47.910
if Colston Loveland is available at 30. Both

00:28:47.910 --> 00:28:49.890
of those guys, by the way, immediately would

00:28:49.890 --> 00:28:54.190
push Dalton Kincaid for starting reps. So Mason

00:28:54.190 --> 00:28:57.470
Taylor is a guy who's probably available, but

00:28:57.470 --> 00:29:02.390
no, I a tight end pick at 30. I think Buffalo

00:29:02.390 --> 00:29:04.849
Bill's fans would riot. You just got to see what

00:29:04.849 --> 00:29:07.680
you got in Dalton Kincaid. And you got to give

00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:10.299
the kid a chance to play a full healthy season

00:29:10.299 --> 00:29:16.480
and see what he can give you. I it 30. I don't

00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.980
this is going to sound terrible. I don't hate

00:29:18.980 --> 00:29:22.319
offensive tackle like depending on how the board

00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.700
falls. That's not a nightmare scenario for me.

00:29:25.740 --> 00:29:30.519
It's not desirable, but you're. With the depth

00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.559
of the tackle class, let's say one of the Josh's

00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.920
is available I'll say Josh Simmons or Josh Connerly

00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.440
Ohio State and Oregon respectively are available

00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.680
if they're at 30 and there's not an interior

00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.240
defensive lineman you love and you know that

00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:47.440
you've got a couple of picks in the second round

00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:49.519
that you can splash around in the secondary with

00:29:50.689 --> 00:29:53.089
Why not take one of those guys and hedge for

00:29:53.089 --> 00:29:55.549
the future? That is a trade -out scenario 100

00:29:55.549 --> 00:29:58.450
% of the time. If you're bored, for me, if you're

00:29:58.450 --> 00:30:00.529
bored. For one of the Josh's? Yeah, for one of

00:30:00.529 --> 00:30:03.009
the Josh's. We love Josh's. Josh's are wonderful.

00:30:03.490 --> 00:30:05.869
We get this Josh thing wrong in the draft, man.

00:30:05.970 --> 00:30:09.190
Let me tell you. I know. No, but I'm saying like,

00:30:09.750 --> 00:30:13.210
ah, it's a trade -out scenario. because you would

00:30:13.210 --> 00:30:16.549
be adding to a position. You just locked up Spencer

00:30:16.549 --> 00:30:19.829
Brown. You just redid your left tackle in Dion

00:30:19.829 --> 00:30:24.609
Dawkins. You have legitimately two tackles on

00:30:24.609 --> 00:30:27.089
depth of your depth chart that could start for

00:30:27.089 --> 00:30:30.470
any NFL team that needs a tackle. It's a situation

00:30:30.470 --> 00:30:33.130
where you have four players for the position

00:30:33.130 --> 00:30:36.509
that are ready to go today, and then you invest

00:30:36.509 --> 00:30:41.759
the best. the best possible dart you have to

00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.160
throw at an impact defensive player. Yeah, no,

00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.519
I get it. I get it. It would have to be a very

00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:50.779
specific scenario for me. I'm just saying it's

00:30:50.779 --> 00:30:53.920
not a nightmare. Yeah. OK. Yeah. Yeah. My nightmare

00:30:53.920 --> 00:31:00.720
scenario is the Buffalo Bills trade up for for

00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:06.039
with Cincinnati for Trey Hendrickson. Oh, yeah.

00:31:06.299 --> 00:31:10.059
Oh, no. The way the bills give away their 30th

00:31:10.059 --> 00:31:13.960
and let Cincinnati come into the round to get

00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:17.119
30 -year -old Trey Hendrickson. Yeah. No, no,

00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:20.259
no, no. The bills trade. Yes. Yes. What you just

00:31:20.259 --> 00:31:23.700
said. Yeah. They move down. Correct. Let Cincinnati

00:31:23.700 --> 00:31:25.960
come up, take Trey Hendrickson, and then have

00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:28.920
to pay him $27 million a year. Exactly. Yeah.

00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.079
That's not the scenario that I want to see happen.

00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:34.619
And I don't think the bills give up 30 for Trey

00:31:34.619 --> 00:31:37.599
Hendrickson. I mean, listen, again, it's lion

00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:40.220
season. I'm knee deep in reading everybody's

00:31:40.220 --> 00:31:42.039
hot take about what the bills are going to do.

00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:44.700
Hendrickson is still sitting out there without

00:31:44.700 --> 00:31:48.079
a new contract and the Buffalo Bills giving up

00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:50.480
first round value, even if it's late first round

00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:54.799
value to an AFC rival for a guy who I get it.

00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:56.720
He's led the league in sacks the past couple

00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.500
of years. He was a guy that you and I were hot

00:31:59.500 --> 00:32:01.559
and cold on when he came out and free agency

00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.269
from New Orleans. But that's a rental. Right.

00:32:05.430 --> 00:32:08.029
That's a rental. And at 30, you should be able

00:32:08.029 --> 00:32:11.190
to get cost controlled value, which is what you

00:32:11.190 --> 00:32:15.210
need when you've just resigned your star QB to

00:32:15.210 --> 00:32:18.029
one of the largest contracts in NFL history.

00:32:18.130 --> 00:32:21.049
Yep. I just I feel like at that point, the value

00:32:21.049 --> 00:32:23.849
is too high when I give up one of the second

00:32:23.849 --> 00:32:27.480
rounders for Hendrickson. Probably, but I still

00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:29.619
got to pay him. Right. And that's the problem

00:32:29.619 --> 00:32:31.259
with this whole scenario. Yeah, I don't think

00:32:31.259 --> 00:32:32.680
that scenario is going to play out just because

00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:34.460
of the money of it. They just don't have it.

00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:36.880
I mean, they have some levers to pull. They could

00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.920
make that money. But it's all it's to do. That

00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:44.160
would be almost a saint scene type of cap management

00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.220
scenario. And Bean has never shown that he's

00:32:47.220 --> 00:32:50.119
like willing to mortgage the future to pay some

00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:53.400
guy a huge contract that you can't necessarily

00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.680
afford after the second year. Right. I mean he

00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.019
made that mistake with the second digs contract

00:32:58.019 --> 00:33:00.519
extension that no one asked him to including

00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:02.700
Stefan Diggs, right? Yeah, and we're finally

00:33:02.700 --> 00:33:05.000
out from under that. So yeah, yeah, but that

00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.359
would be my nightmare scenarios They lean too

00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:11.160
hard into this veteran trade market and and they

00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:13.460
they pay a steep price I don't get the sense

00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:15.480
that the bills are feeling that urgency though,

00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:18.119
but that would be a nightmare scenario for me.

00:33:18.180 --> 00:33:21.539
Absolutely No, I think it's different, you know

00:33:21.539 --> 00:33:25.319
if they didn't sign Joey Bosa It would be different

00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:28.940
if they didn't have a veteran Difference maker

00:33:28.940 --> 00:33:31.579
option who they're kind of betting on traits,

00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.119
you know traits wise and production wise they

00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:36.799
they do have that and so I think they're Probably

00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.180
a little bit more comfortable taking a flyer

00:33:39.180 --> 00:33:41.619
on somebody with a 30th pick Yeah, I agree. And

00:33:41.619 --> 00:33:43.240
again, you want that you want that fifth year

00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:45.539
option, which is so important in the assessment

00:33:45.539 --> 00:33:48.019
of a player. It was important, so important in

00:33:48.019 --> 00:33:50.859
the assessment of Greg Russo. So, yeah, I'm all

00:33:50.859 --> 00:33:53.880
about this. All right. Who are some who are some

00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:56.180
later round picks? And it doesn't have to be

00:33:56.180 --> 00:33:58.740
specific in order of any round. But who are some

00:33:58.740 --> 00:34:02.160
guys, JJ, that are not on everyone's big board

00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:03.839
for the first round that you'd love to see the

00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:08.860
Bills target in their later rounds? I think that.

00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:16.659
Kyle Williams the wide receiver Is is somebody

00:34:16.659 --> 00:34:20.320
that I like I Really like Jordan Phillips the

00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.059
good Jordan Phillips Maryland. Yeah out of Maryland,

00:34:23.059 --> 00:34:27.099
you know Because I think that he's got he's got

00:34:27.099 --> 00:34:28.519
all the things that the Jordan Phillips that

00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:31.139
bills fans are so familiar with has had But he's

00:34:31.139 --> 00:34:34.429
a plus athlete and he has more production. And

00:34:34.429 --> 00:34:36.710
so let's let's get the younger, hotter version

00:34:36.710 --> 00:34:39.070
of Jordan Phillips. And that's probably around

00:34:39.070 --> 00:34:42.489
four or five guy. Jamari Caldwell out of Oregon

00:34:42.489 --> 00:34:46.230
is a good defensive interior guy. I like as well.

00:34:46.570 --> 00:34:49.150
C .J. West, Indiana. Somebody that I would take

00:34:49.150 --> 00:34:51.349
as well in the later rounds again These are kind

00:34:51.349 --> 00:34:53.969
of bigger plugger guys who don't necessarily

00:34:53.969 --> 00:34:56.989
have a lot of upside in terms of pass rush ability

00:34:56.989 --> 00:35:00.070
and skill But they definitely bring their chops

00:35:00.070 --> 00:35:04.929
with run stuffing and those opportunities For

00:35:04.929 --> 00:35:07.650
and I'm just talking like defensive players really

00:35:07.650 --> 00:35:12.289
I mentioned pooh Paul already Chris Paul jr You

00:35:12.289 --> 00:35:17.250
know Kobe Bryant CB Kansas out of Kansas. Yep

00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:21.639
you know some people have compared him to uh

00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:25.659
who's the oh man who's the lat the kansas cornerback

00:35:25.659 --> 00:35:27.340
that came out a few years ago that's excellent

00:35:27.340 --> 00:35:30.980
i can't think of it oh god who is that same physical

00:35:30.980 --> 00:35:35.730
profile um Yeah, so, you know, I've mentioned

00:35:35.730 --> 00:35:37.769
in talking to you before, Benjamin Morrison,

00:35:37.769 --> 00:35:41.349
I think, out of Notre Dame has an excellent kind

00:35:41.349 --> 00:35:45.650
of pedigree and is coming off an injury. So you

00:35:45.650 --> 00:35:47.510
got to make sure your medicals are right. But

00:35:47.510 --> 00:35:50.190
has the would have probably have been a top 15

00:35:50.190 --> 00:35:53.070
pick if he didn't get injured and could be a

00:35:53.070 --> 00:35:58.090
steal in the two to round two, round three. Dorian

00:35:58.090 --> 00:36:04.300
Strong. Love that guy. Iowa. 64 200 pounds former

00:36:04.300 --> 00:36:07.500
track athlete former wide receiver He has the

00:36:07.500 --> 00:36:09.920
the hands of a wide receiver the speed of a traffic

00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:13.219
track athlete in the body of a linebacker Could

00:36:13.219 --> 00:36:15.400
could you get any better, but he's a first year

00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.280
star one year starter. So you're really kind

00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:19.460
of projecting How about you? What are what are

00:36:19.460 --> 00:36:22.460
some of those later kind of mid third fourth

00:36:22.460 --> 00:36:24.699
fifth round guys that you think could be steals?

00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:28.539
I'm really I'm looking at Landon Jackson and

00:36:28.539 --> 00:36:32.269
Jada, Arkansas. Love that dude He's he's still

00:36:32.269 --> 00:36:34.610
putting it all together. You can see on the tape

00:36:34.610 --> 00:36:38.750
some of his disjointedness where. He is making

00:36:38.750 --> 00:36:40.809
a decision for what he wants his body to do,

00:36:40.869 --> 00:36:43.289
but he is not yet trained and polished enough

00:36:43.289 --> 00:36:48.190
at the position to execute fluidly. Right. I

00:36:48.190 --> 00:36:50.510
think that's a dude that with some coaching has

00:36:50.510 --> 00:36:53.730
some really elite traits. Six, six, two, sixty

00:36:53.730 --> 00:36:57.389
four ran, I think, a four, four, six. That's

00:36:57.389 --> 00:36:59.469
funny. I want to say, I mean, this dude is this

00:36:59.469 --> 00:37:01.909
dude's wild or four or five, six. Sorry. We're

00:37:01.909 --> 00:37:03.550
in a four or five, six. We're still amazing.

00:37:03.750 --> 00:37:06.800
Right. For the edge position. This is a dude

00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.219
who a lot of Bill's Mafia fans really like to.

00:37:09.420 --> 00:37:14.699
I just think he is. We want to be the guys that

00:37:14.699 --> 00:37:16.920
he puts it together with, right? We want him

00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:18.739
on our team when he kind of figures that stuff

00:37:18.739 --> 00:37:21.900
out. Sticking on the defensive line, I know we're

00:37:21.900 --> 00:37:24.260
going to argue about this one, and I'm totally

00:37:24.260 --> 00:37:27.699
fine with that. I'm ready to take your. Take

00:37:27.699 --> 00:37:30.579
your your your poison darts here on this one.

00:37:30.980 --> 00:37:35.039
But Dion Walker, I like I do. This year's Devon

00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.099
Drey Sweat to me. How much did we like Devon

00:37:37.099 --> 00:37:39.760
Drey Sweat and how many people missed on him

00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:41.760
because of the fact that they didn't think he

00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.480
had to pass rush chops. Give me Dion Walker.

00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.179
Give me Dan Walker in like the fourth round.

00:37:47.340 --> 00:37:49.619
Right. We've got so many picks to throw away

00:37:49.619 --> 00:37:52.079
in the fourth and fifth round. Give me a dude

00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:56.690
who plays with a lot of speed. Plays with a lot

00:37:56.690 --> 00:37:59.289
of ferocity with his upper body. Yes. He doesn't

00:37:59.289 --> 00:38:01.429
have his pad level necessarily Right all the

00:38:01.429 --> 00:38:05.570
time, but you can't teach six seven and three

00:38:05.570 --> 00:38:07.849
hundred and thirty pounds You just can't in the

00:38:07.849 --> 00:38:11.570
middle of that. He's a big block eating dude

00:38:11.570 --> 00:38:13.750
And I think if you can figure out some of his

00:38:13.750 --> 00:38:16.730
lower body mechanic inconsistencies You've got

00:38:16.730 --> 00:38:18.510
a dude who's gonna be a starter for a long long

00:38:18.510 --> 00:38:22.469
time My problem is exactly what you just said

00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:29.300
If you can figure out his lower body mechanic

00:38:29.300 --> 00:38:32.320
like at this point and he's he's 21 so he's still

00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:35.639
young I get that I get that but at the same time

00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.480
like the the question of if you can figure out

00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.019
his lower body mechanics somebody who's 340 pounds

00:38:42.019 --> 00:38:44.760
Should not be getting blown off the ball when

00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.300
double -teamed like I've seen him get blown off

00:38:47.300 --> 00:38:49.539
the ball and double -team I'm not interested

00:38:49.539 --> 00:38:53.929
in big Big and athletic if you don't understand

00:38:53.929 --> 00:38:57.550
the mechanics of the position and that's I He

00:38:57.550 --> 00:39:02.269
is big and athletic and that's nice. He is He

00:39:02.269 --> 00:39:05.050
is just a mess when it comes to his hand fighting

00:39:05.050 --> 00:39:09.469
in the mechanics He's not he's not he's not terrible

00:39:09.469 --> 00:39:12.989
He's better at hands than I than I think I you

00:39:12.989 --> 00:39:17.030
know, I'd give him credit for His hands are fine.

00:39:17.289 --> 00:39:20.110
It's really the mess that is everything below

00:39:20.110 --> 00:39:23.610
his waist. Yeah, it is definitely like driving

00:39:23.610 --> 00:39:26.050
with power. It's getting his hips under his pads.

00:39:26.210 --> 00:39:28.710
It's moving people off the ball and getting pushed.

00:39:29.210 --> 00:39:32.530
Those are big enough marks for me that I'm like,

00:39:32.789 --> 00:39:35.840
no thank you. Yeah, I feel you on that. I feel

00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:39.019
you on that. I do think there are a couple of

00:39:39.019 --> 00:39:41.059
need areas that we haven't really talked about

00:39:41.059 --> 00:39:44.380
that are sneaky for the bills. I think linebacker

00:39:44.380 --> 00:39:48.039
is a need. I think especially with Milano's pending

00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:50.639
departure. And listen, there hasn't been a good

00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:53.559
linebacker draft class to come through necessarily

00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:56.820
in a while. But I do think they're going to take

00:39:56.820 --> 00:39:58.820
a look at linebackers with some of their later

00:39:58.820 --> 00:40:03.340
round picks. I think a dude like Demetrius Knight

00:40:03.340 --> 00:40:05.659
out of South Carolina. He's a bit of a tweener

00:40:05.659 --> 00:40:08.780
type. He's 6 '2". Comes in at like somewhere

00:40:08.780 --> 00:40:12.260
between 2 '30 and 2 '37". I think he's a dude

00:40:12.260 --> 00:40:14.800
whose traits they would really like. He ran,

00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.679
I want to say he ran a 4 '5". He ran a 4 '5",

00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:20.739
which is great end -to -end speed for a linebacker.

00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:22.460
I think he's a dude that they potentially take

00:40:22.460 --> 00:40:25.750
a look at. And then... I think they're going

00:40:25.750 --> 00:40:29.010
to David Edwards played really, really well.

00:40:29.170 --> 00:40:31.949
He's got a very manageable contract. I know Alec

00:40:31.949 --> 00:40:34.250
Anderson is waiting in the wings, but I think

00:40:34.250 --> 00:40:37.590
the Buffalo Bills are still learning the lessons

00:40:37.590 --> 00:40:39.769
from that Cincinnati Bengals game a couple of

00:40:39.769 --> 00:40:41.710
years back, and they're going to want to invest

00:40:41.710 --> 00:40:45.389
in the interior offensive line later on in this

00:40:45.389 --> 00:40:47.809
draft. I think one of their fifth or sixth round

00:40:47.809 --> 00:40:50.829
picks, I could easily see them take a project

00:40:50.829 --> 00:40:55.079
guard that they put behind. They put behind Alec

00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:58.719
Anderson. I think of a guy potentially like Emery

00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:06.099
Jones Jr out of LSU and then. Bear with me. My

00:41:06.099 --> 00:41:10.800
computer is loading very, very slowly. Another

00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.719
guy who I think they they might take a shot on

00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:18.179
is. Let's see, where was he? He's the kid out

00:41:18.179 --> 00:41:22.590
of Kansas State. What's his face? Guard. Guard

00:41:22.590 --> 00:41:25.750
out of Kansas State like and he might be in UDFA

00:41:25.750 --> 00:41:31.610
territory quite frankly Where did he go? Oh?

00:41:31.610 --> 00:41:34.179
Here is Easton kitty I mean, I like the name,

00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:37.860
but he's a 50. He's a fifth year senior. He is

00:41:37.860 --> 00:41:42.119
64308, a little bit lighter than the Osiris Torrance

00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:43.960
type that they went through in the mall in the

00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.960
run game. But he's got some versatility to his

00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:50.739
game. I think you put him in that offensive system

00:41:50.739 --> 00:41:54.059
with Aaron Kroemer and Joe Brady. And I think

00:41:54.059 --> 00:41:56.539
is a due to if he adds a couple of pounds, could

00:41:56.539 --> 00:41:59.900
be one of those nice tuck them away off the UDFA

00:41:59.900 --> 00:42:01.920
list for a year and could be a guy that you want

00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:04.960
to look at. All right, I've got a couple of linebackers

00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.559
that I like for the second round maybe the third

00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:11.400
round Maybe maybe one maybe Jeffrey Bassa from

00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:13.940
Oregon drops into the fourth round. That'd be

00:42:13.940 --> 00:42:17.679
nice. I like yeah, I like him He is he is basically

00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.480
this classes version of Matt Milano. He's a converted

00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.219
safety smaller frame smaller body but better

00:42:24.219 --> 00:42:26.099
athleticism than a lot of linebackers you'll

00:42:26.099 --> 00:42:28.460
see. And it definitely projects to be a Mike

00:42:28.460 --> 00:42:31.980
or a Will outside linebacker in a 4 -3. I like

00:42:31.980 --> 00:42:33.440
Demetrius Knight. That was a good suggestion.

00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:38.699
Carson Schwessinger at UCLA is a good. Coverage

00:42:38.699 --> 00:42:41.179
linebacker who will get washed out in the run

00:42:41.179 --> 00:42:43.400
game a little bit because he's a smaller frame

00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.340
again But what we know from the Bills is that

00:42:46.340 --> 00:42:49.500
they prefer to have smaller coverage linebackers

00:42:49.500 --> 00:42:51.719
as they sideline to sideline athletes They always

00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.380
talk about we need them to be coverage, you know

00:42:54.380 --> 00:42:57.840
coverage flexible first because the defense is

00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.800
too Variable to not have them be they they're

00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:05.820
never going to sign, you know a Patriots esque

00:43:05.820 --> 00:43:08.679
linebacker who's just a downhill thumper. They

00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:10.519
haven't done that. Jack Campbell. They're never

00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:12.320
going to get it. They're never going to go after

00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:14.420
a Jack Campbell because they're they're ideal

00:43:14.420 --> 00:43:16.500
is that everybody can cover everywhere on the

00:43:16.500 --> 00:43:18.760
defense so that you're not getting killed in

00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:22.039
short passing. They they do not care about defending

00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.139
the run. Yes, we understand. This is Bill Spence.

00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:29.099
Stop the pass and be able to pass. Yeah, and

00:43:29.099 --> 00:43:31.900
then another area look for me as safety I really

00:43:31.900 --> 00:43:34.280
I know we depart on this one, too I really like

00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:37.699
Andrew mccuba out of Texas. I that that dude

00:43:37.699 --> 00:43:40.460
just reeks of mycahide traits to me He's not

00:43:40.460 --> 00:43:43.199
the fastest guy in the world. He ran a he ran

00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:48.960
a decent four four four five forty The long speed

00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:51.739
doesn't necessarily show up on tape But the change

00:43:51.739 --> 00:43:54.139
of direction does the ball. The ball instincts

00:43:54.139 --> 00:43:58.539
are there. He's he's a project when it comes

00:43:58.539 --> 00:44:01.780
to tackling securely in the run game. But overall,

00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:04.059
he's a little bit of a lighter dude. Overall,

00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:06.320
though, he gives you a profile in that safety

00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:08.559
room that you do not currently have. You've got

00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:11.760
a lot of thumpers in that room with Bishop, with

00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:15.730
rap. you know, jury's out on Forrest and his

00:44:15.730 --> 00:44:18.389
athletic profile, though it says plus rating

00:44:18.389 --> 00:44:21.510
to me, but you just, you don't have anyone that

00:44:21.510 --> 00:44:25.170
is elite away from the line of scrimmage in that

00:44:25.170 --> 00:44:27.710
safety room. And I just think Micuba addresses

00:44:27.710 --> 00:44:31.429
that. I mean, I wouldn't hate Micuba. I don't,

00:44:31.429 --> 00:44:34.789
you know, I don't, I think he's, he is aggressive

00:44:34.789 --> 00:44:37.650
and his size would worry me a little bit with

00:44:37.650 --> 00:44:40.800
how aggressive he plays, you know. Getting in

00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:42.599
there and banging around is probably not going

00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.460
to go well for his size. Dude, Taron Johnson's

00:44:45.460 --> 00:44:48.059
made it for real. I know. That's true. Come on.

00:44:48.460 --> 00:44:53.320
Yeah, no, and that's fair. I think that, so I

00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:57.019
like a couple of, the problem is the safeties

00:44:57.019 --> 00:45:00.239
I really like in this class are box safeties.

00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.119
And we have two box safeties already. We're set

00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:06.480
on box. Yeah. And so, you know, somebody like

00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:10.900
Jalen Reed, somebody like Jonas Sanker, you know,

00:45:10.980 --> 00:45:13.460
there's a lot of really good safeties that I

00:45:13.460 --> 00:45:18.340
think are but their profile is not so good. Sebastian

00:45:18.340 --> 00:45:20.800
Castro. Think is somebody who could be a deep

00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.179
middle. Yeah, he doesn't have great athleticism

00:45:23.179 --> 00:45:25.219
But he reminds me a little bit of Micah Hyde

00:45:25.219 --> 00:45:28.440
in that regard in terms of he's not gonna be

00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.340
the you know, the guy the makeup speed but he

00:45:31.340 --> 00:45:34.460
just was really Intuitive about reading routes

00:45:34.460 --> 00:45:36.559
know where he needs to be and I very much like

00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:38.940
him to be able to cover the top in that way So

00:45:38.940 --> 00:45:41.840
yeah, absolutely. Yeah Buffalo are the Buffalo

00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:44.739
Bills gonna finally draft some speed JJ a wide

00:45:44.739 --> 00:45:47.639
receiver? I don't think they're gonna again unless

00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.260
a Matthew Golden falls to 30 I don't think they

00:45:50.260 --> 00:45:52.940
use one of their top three picks on a wide receiver

00:45:52.940 --> 00:45:55.789
I think it's all defense all the time But let's

00:45:55.789 --> 00:45:58.409
say who's the kid from Virginia Tech, Jalen Lane.

00:45:58.809 --> 00:46:00.889
Let's say Jalen Lane is sitting there early in

00:46:00.889 --> 00:46:02.630
the fourth round and you've got the opportunity

00:46:02.630 --> 00:46:05.969
to trade up and get them. 5 '10", 191, ran a

00:46:05.969 --> 00:46:09.050
4 '3", 4 '40". Is that the type of speed that

00:46:09.050 --> 00:46:11.730
you want to say on this team? Is it Keandre Lambert

00:46:11.730 --> 00:46:13.889
-Smith, the kid who I've got on my list out of

00:46:13.889 --> 00:46:16.389
Oregon, ran another 4 '3", a little bit taller

00:46:16.389 --> 00:46:20.469
at 6 '1", 190? Is it Dante Thornton Jr. who people

00:46:20.469 --> 00:46:23.469
are comparing to who the heck was just traded

00:46:23.469 --> 00:46:30.210
to the Pittsburgh Steelers? Oh, oh, God. D .K.

00:46:30.329 --> 00:46:32.550
Metcalf, D .K. Metcalf. Yeah, people are comparing

00:46:32.550 --> 00:46:36.510
their body types and abilities. Yeah, 10. Yeah,

00:46:36.550 --> 00:46:38.530
Tennessee. Go ahead. You say your piece about

00:46:38.530 --> 00:46:40.449
him. Go ahead. Oh, were you about to say that

00:46:40.449 --> 00:46:42.670
Tennessee's offense creates nothing but messes?

00:46:42.989 --> 00:46:45.449
How do you scout? I mean, we were both on the

00:46:45.449 --> 00:46:48.269
Jalen Hyatt bandwagon a couple of years ago.

00:46:48.730 --> 00:46:51.889
How do you scout anyone on that offense like

00:46:51.889 --> 00:46:55.110
I know it's a lot of repetitive nonsense routes.

00:46:55.329 --> 00:46:57.610
They're not running a pro offense. There's no

00:46:57.610 --> 00:47:00.750
route tree for these guys like All Tennessee

00:47:00.750 --> 00:47:03.849
produces are ridiculously fast, athletic wide

00:47:03.849 --> 00:47:06.710
receivers that have a massive learning curve

00:47:06.710 --> 00:47:08.809
at the NFL level. That can't figure out a playbook

00:47:08.809 --> 00:47:11.389
for their life. Seriously. Yeah. No, I don't

00:47:11.389 --> 00:47:14.289
know. Isaac Tesla is somebody who's also a little

00:47:14.289 --> 00:47:18.469
bit fast. Round four or five. Savion Williams,

00:47:19.210 --> 00:47:23.050
I think, is his name from TCU. Yeah. He's a 4

00:47:23.050 --> 00:47:25.929
'4 guy. Yeah, he's a little bit slower. From,

00:47:26.070 --> 00:47:29.920
in my opinion, If the Bills pick, if their first

00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:35.260
three choices, the 30, 52 or 56 and 62, if those

00:47:35.260 --> 00:47:37.000
three are defensive players and at least one

00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.179
of them is a defensive interior and at least

00:47:39.179 --> 00:47:42.559
one of them is a cornerback, they can use every

00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.000
one of their fourth and fifth rounders on running

00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:46.679
backs, wide receivers and linebackers. I don't

00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.079
care. Like at that point, I don't care. Like

00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.599
I just need you to fix your defense so that it's

00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.750
not just Josh Allen score 50. because we'll never

00:47:55.750 --> 00:47:57.929
stop anybody like fix the defense with the first

00:47:57.929 --> 00:48:00.789
top three picks and then give me any throw as

00:48:00.789 --> 00:48:03.489
many darts as you want at a speed or speedier

00:48:03.489 --> 00:48:05.769
wide receiver who can be a field stretcher, because

00:48:05.769 --> 00:48:07.409
I think that is a component that's missing in

00:48:07.409 --> 00:48:10.349
this offense. It's been missing for years and

00:48:10.349 --> 00:48:12.449
we've been screaming about it for years since

00:48:12.449 --> 00:48:15.869
John Brown's first stint with the team. Seriously,

00:48:16.110 --> 00:48:20.670
man, seriously. Another and this is kind of one

00:48:20.670 --> 00:48:23.730
of where I wrap it up. Voluntary workouts have

00:48:23.730 --> 00:48:27.579
begun. James Cook, no show. First thoughts on

00:48:27.579 --> 00:48:29.699
this and it's going to lead me into a draft question.

00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.300
But your first thoughts, is this a big deal or

00:48:32.300 --> 00:48:34.219
is this no deal that James Cook is not there?

00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:38.820
I think it's no deal. I think it's no deal right

00:48:38.820 --> 00:48:41.079
now because it's still so it's still so early.

00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:44.420
People will miss the voluntary offseason workouts

00:48:44.420 --> 00:48:47.039
for so many different reasons. Family events,

00:48:47.340 --> 00:48:51.469
vacations, you know, weddings, et cetera. I do

00:48:51.469 --> 00:48:53.750
think he's holding out like he's starting a holdout

00:48:53.750 --> 00:48:56.230
now. Like, I think that's accurate. I think his

00:48:56.230 --> 00:48:57.809
reason, you know, he probably could have cleared

00:48:57.809 --> 00:49:02.710
a schedule to do this and chose not to. And I

00:49:02.710 --> 00:49:05.389
but I think it's no deal right now. Talk to me

00:49:05.389 --> 00:49:09.389
again once mandatory mini camp comes through.

00:49:09.570 --> 00:49:12.969
At that point, if he is still not appeared, it's

00:49:12.969 --> 00:49:17.579
a big deal. Yeah, I would agree with that. I

00:49:17.579 --> 00:49:19.360
and I said this earlier on I think the bills

00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.519
were gonna splash with how deep this running

00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.039
back class is They were gonna splash a late round

00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:27.539
pick day three pick at running back anyway Is

00:49:27.539 --> 00:49:30.159
there a guy who you see in there on your running

00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:32.780
back board? That you would love to see the bills

00:49:32.780 --> 00:49:35.739
target on day three. I've got a couple in mind

00:49:35.739 --> 00:49:39.719
Yeah, why why don't you go first cuz I? I'll

00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:43.019
fill in the gaps. DJ Giddens out of Kansas State

00:49:43.019 --> 00:49:47.519
for four speed six foot six one right around

00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:50.719
there about two twelve decent hands out of the

00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.260
backfield really kind of gives you that that

00:49:53.260 --> 00:49:56.099
James Cook ability to play the first couple of

00:49:56.099 --> 00:50:02.079
downs. Trevor Etienne Etienne. Out of Georgia,

00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:05.679
you probably need to catch him in the third round

00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:08.860
potentially So he's probably a trade back into

00:50:08.860 --> 00:50:11.679
the round scenario, but four four two speed a

00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:14.940
little bit on the smaller side of five nine Pushing

00:50:14.940 --> 00:50:18.539
about 200 pounds, but listen man, Georgia program

00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:20.960
their guys catch the ball out of the backfield.

00:50:21.059 --> 00:50:23.000
They play with great speed. They hit the hole

00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:26.059
quick. Etienne could be a really good fit. And

00:50:26.059 --> 00:50:29.139
then just from a pure speed standpoint, because

00:50:29.139 --> 00:50:32.719
I love a good four three time by Shel Tutton.

00:50:32.860 --> 00:50:36.000
Oh, yeah. Out of Virginia Tech. Dude, give me

00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.199
that. Give me that dude early in the fourth round

00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:42.099
and like let's cook. No pun intended. You know

00:50:42.099 --> 00:50:44.599
what I mean? So and yeah, that's the thing for

00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.230
me is like. Bachel Tutin is one of those players

00:50:47.230 --> 00:50:49.750
that I feel like you can get in the fourth or

00:50:49.750 --> 00:50:54.110
fifth round and Could provide you the same kind

00:50:54.110 --> 00:50:57.030
of long -speed game -breaking ability of James

00:50:57.030 --> 00:50:58.949
Cook not to the same level I think James Cook

00:50:58.949 --> 00:51:02.670
is a really complete back He's just not reliable

00:51:02.670 --> 00:51:06.369
and pass pro on third down and I don't then I

00:51:06.369 --> 00:51:09.969
think the same is true for Bachel Tutin I really

00:51:09.969 --> 00:51:13.880
like Devin Neal who is kind of like Devon Neal

00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:17.420
reminds me of a more athletic Devon Singletary.

00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:20.099
Like Devon Singletary was a fine start. He is

00:51:20.099 --> 00:51:22.599
a fine starting running back. Very capable. Yes.

00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.559
Could do everything you want a running back could

00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:29.000
to do with decent and not even exemplary blocking

00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:31.300
can turn every carry into a four at four yard

00:51:31.300 --> 00:51:33.039
game. Like, you know, like I think that Devon

00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:35.780
Neal is one of those players out of Kansas. You

00:51:35.780 --> 00:51:38.000
know, he's like six something and 200 pounds.

00:51:38.019 --> 00:51:41.039
So he can he could do the job. But yeah, Basial

00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.119
Tutin is the is the player that I'm like. You

00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:46.159
know if you if we need somebody who's like home

00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:49.320
run ability that that could be the guy Mm -hmm

00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:51.980
without a doubt lots of options on the board

00:51:51.980 --> 00:51:55.659
man. I think to summarize everything Where the

00:51:55.659 --> 00:51:59.119
bills have set themselves up this to me is the

00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.579
draft year Where the Buffalo Bills have best

00:52:02.579 --> 00:52:06.579
set themselves up to draft best available player

00:52:06.579 --> 00:52:10.590
in an impact position The depth on the defensive

00:52:10.590 --> 00:52:13.789
line, especially in the interior, is still questionable.

00:52:14.269 --> 00:52:16.690
But because of where the Bills have set themselves

00:52:16.690 --> 00:52:19.090
up in the first and second round with the capital

00:52:19.090 --> 00:52:22.130
they have, if Derek Harmon's not there, if Kenneth

00:52:22.130 --> 00:52:24.929
Grant isn't there, I don't want them stretching

00:52:24.929 --> 00:52:27.429
the 30th pick to reach for a guy who they might

00:52:27.429 --> 00:52:29.710
be able to get with one of their second round

00:52:29.710 --> 00:52:32.170
picks. Same thing with cornerback. The depth

00:52:32.170 --> 00:52:34.349
is a concern, even though Trey White is back.

00:52:34.750 --> 00:52:38.159
Dane Jackson is back. Neither of those guys are

00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:42.119
a liable outside option to me opposite of Christian

00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.179
Benford, but they really help. You should Benford

00:52:44.179 --> 00:52:46.679
go down or should there be injuries that hit

00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:49.059
that room? But the bills have left themselves

00:52:49.059 --> 00:52:51.239
in a position where they're going to have options

00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.119
at 30 and they're going to have options in the

00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:56.079
second round, too. They have needs on defense,

00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:57.800
but they've got the draft capital to address

00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.260
those needs early on in the draft. And then to

00:53:00.260 --> 00:53:03.480
your point earlier, after you go in some order

00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:08.599
of defensive line edge, DB do whatever you want

00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:10.480
do whatever you want address those three needs

00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:11.960
with your first three picks and then do whatever

00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:14.820
you want right? Yep, and that's a credit a credit

00:53:14.820 --> 00:53:17.280
to how bean is constructed this roster in this

00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:19.280
offseason with again a limited amount of cap

00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:22.820
space Being able to really raise the floor and

00:53:22.820 --> 00:53:26.079
ensure that this the floor of this team remains

00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:30.199
10 wins and competitive in the AFC's right pre

00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.360
-drift. Not a lot of other teams can say that

00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:34.639
Yeah, no, for sure. And that's kind of where

00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:37.420
I'm at. You know, now a couple of days away from

00:53:37.420 --> 00:53:41.360
the jet draft is fix your defense, do whatever,

00:53:41.460 --> 00:53:44.139
throw some darts. Right. First three picks, fix

00:53:44.139 --> 00:53:46.559
the defense and then, you know, bring in a running

00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:49.239
back to challenge James Cook. Yes. Trade James

00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:53.039
Cook for a second. Oh, God. I mean, is that so?

00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:56.599
All right. So let's end on this race. James Cook,

00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:58.920
you and I have had this talk about do you sign

00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:03.260
him? Do you not sign him? I do. I believe if

00:54:03.260 --> 00:54:05.659
I ran the Buffalo Bills, I would sign James Cook

00:54:05.659 --> 00:54:10.780
with the cap going up to where it is. I would

00:54:10.780 --> 00:54:13.539
do it, but I'm a fan. I understand that you can

00:54:13.539 --> 00:54:15.619
find replacements for running back, despite what

00:54:15.619 --> 00:54:17.400
happened with Derek Henry and Saquon Barkley

00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:20.820
this year with the with the incredible years

00:54:20.820 --> 00:54:24.139
they had for their new teams. I think that will

00:54:24.139 --> 00:54:26.900
continue to prove to be more of an outlier. And

00:54:26.900 --> 00:54:30.280
the fact that Nick Chubb. and JK Dobbins are

00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.280
still free agents on the on the running back

00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:35.460
market shows me that the league has not changed

00:54:35.460 --> 00:54:37.820
their perspective on the value of running backs.

00:54:38.099 --> 00:54:41.179
So that being said, I feel like Cook will successfully

00:54:41.179 --> 00:54:43.739
play out the final year of his contract. He'll

00:54:43.739 --> 00:54:47.769
go get signed by like. the LA Chargers, right,

00:54:47.849 --> 00:54:49.409
or something like that, we'll thank him for his

00:54:49.409 --> 00:54:51.309
service, but then we'll replace him moving forward.

00:54:51.730 --> 00:54:53.829
I think that's what the Bills are gonna do, and

00:54:53.829 --> 00:54:56.369
that's why Brandon Bean runs the team and I don't,

00:54:56.429 --> 00:54:58.789
right? So what do you see the trajectory or the

00:54:58.789 --> 00:55:01.590
future for James Cook with the squad? I think

00:55:01.590 --> 00:55:04.250
it's the same. I think that they've proven with

00:55:04.250 --> 00:55:06.769
Devon Singletary that they set their prices with

00:55:06.769 --> 00:55:10.889
running back, and if you don't take that deal...

00:55:10.969 --> 00:55:13.789
then thank you right like goodbye because I think

00:55:13.789 --> 00:55:15.989
that they see the running back position like

00:55:15.989 --> 00:55:18.110
so many GMs so many teams in the league see it

00:55:18.110 --> 00:55:22.170
is we can get by like as long as we have our

00:55:22.170 --> 00:55:25.329
critical needs on offense covered we'll find

00:55:25.329 --> 00:55:28.230
somebody to do that job right like it's more

00:55:28.230 --> 00:55:30.289
important that the tackles the guards in the

00:55:30.289 --> 00:55:34.130
center are better than the running back because

00:55:34.130 --> 00:55:36.329
if those guys aren't good You're not going to

00:55:36.329 --> 00:55:39.449
get anywhere anyway. And so we've seen plenty

00:55:39.449 --> 00:55:43.070
of running backs waste the prime of their careers

00:55:43.070 --> 00:55:46.289
behind terrible offensive lines. CJ Spiller.

00:55:46.929 --> 00:55:50.329
Yeah. And we've also seen plenty of running backs

00:55:50.329 --> 00:55:55.070
in the league who were incredible, who left good

00:55:55.070 --> 00:55:59.230
situations. and were terrible, right? Because

00:55:59.230 --> 00:56:02.550
Le 'Veon Bell is the exact example I was thinking

00:56:02.550 --> 00:56:06.050
of, is players who ran behind an excellent offensive

00:56:06.050 --> 00:56:08.630
line and were lighting the league on fire and

00:56:08.630 --> 00:56:11.389
then go other places, hold out, have all of these

00:56:11.389 --> 00:56:15.070
kind of things. I think that if James Cook played

00:56:15.070 --> 00:56:17.090
for the Patriots last year, he doesn't break

00:56:17.090 --> 00:56:20.170
1 ,000 yards. He definitely doesn't get 16 touchdowns.

00:56:20.170 --> 00:56:23.269
No way. Right. Like he gets four touchdowns,

00:56:23.349 --> 00:56:25.809
breaks a couple of long runs, probably a six

00:56:25.809 --> 00:56:29.289
or seven hundred yard running back with maybe

00:56:29.289 --> 00:56:33.349
20, 30 more touches. Right. I just think that

00:56:33.349 --> 00:56:36.530
it's he's more of a product of the offense than

00:56:36.530 --> 00:56:39.730
I think than the offense is a product of James

00:56:39.730 --> 00:56:41.909
Cook. For that reason, I don't pay him 15 million,

00:56:42.030 --> 00:56:44.050
even though I projected that when, you know,

00:56:44.130 --> 00:56:46.369
we were on. I was one of the shout guys. Oh,

00:56:46.429 --> 00:56:48.070
I remember that. Yeah, you were like, yeah, give

00:56:48.070 --> 00:56:50.130
him 15 million. They're like, what they left

00:56:50.130 --> 00:56:53.130
me out of the shop. But that's that's what he's

00:56:53.130 --> 00:56:56.650
asking for. And I don't depending on where the

00:56:56.650 --> 00:56:59.750
cat projects. I don't hate him in that number.

00:57:00.190 --> 00:57:02.829
But I also understand that the bills because

00:57:02.829 --> 00:57:05.269
they have secured their guys at so many other

00:57:05.269 --> 00:57:07.590
positions with all of the contracts They've doled

00:57:07.590 --> 00:57:12.389
out their MO is they want to pay you Before you

00:57:12.389 --> 00:57:15.170
reach market value and bet on your upside Yep,

00:57:15.170 --> 00:57:17.469
and cook has probably already reached the point

00:57:17.469 --> 00:57:21.210
where he's at market value and as such too expensive

00:57:21.210 --> 00:57:24.690
for the bills So that's all I think it is. I

00:57:24.690 --> 00:57:26.590
think he's worth 15 million dollars a year. I

00:57:26.590 --> 00:57:29.090
think any team in the league would probably his

00:57:29.090 --> 00:57:31.130
production is good if they have a solid line

00:57:31.130 --> 00:57:34.429
to get you 15 million dollars a year worth of

00:57:34.429 --> 00:57:37.630
yards and touchdowns and catches and touchdowns.

00:57:38.190 --> 00:57:42.130
I just don't think that the bills. care about

00:57:42.130 --> 00:57:45.409
that value, knowing what they know about what

00:57:45.409 --> 00:57:47.349
their offense can do with a lot of different

00:57:47.349 --> 00:57:49.610
guys, including cheaper options like Ty Johnson,

00:57:50.190 --> 00:57:52.309
Ray Davis, you know, they had production out

00:57:52.309 --> 00:57:54.210
of those guys too, giving those guys more of

00:57:54.210 --> 00:57:56.670
a share of the touches, their production's gonna

00:57:56.670 --> 00:58:00.940
go up. Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, God, I cannot

00:58:00.940 --> 00:58:02.960
wait for the draft. It's so exciting to talk

00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:05.059
about this stuff. Oh, my God. We're back in a

00:58:05.059 --> 00:58:07.960
folks back in Buffalo Bills football territory

00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.420
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00:58:10.420 --> 00:58:12.340
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