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Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread podcast.

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It is week 16 and I'm happy to be back.

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We have a special guest who was a fill-in co-host last week with Brandon, our resident

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Patriots expert, friend of the show, not friend of the Bills, and of course, as always, the

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stalwart Dan.

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And we are, we're going to recap the Bills Lions absolute barn burner that happened a

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few nights ago and then we're going to discuss the upcoming Bills Patriots matchup, the first

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of the year happening here in week 16.

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Let's go boys.

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Dan, where you at?

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I am, I'm ready for this game on Sunday, so full disclosure, Brandon and I are going

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together.

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And when this game was at 1pm, we were going to benefit from a balmy 22 degree weather

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temperature prediction.

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Now that this game has shifted to 425, we are going to be in single digits, my friend,

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for the almost the entirety of the game in the 300 section with the best of Bills mafia

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dealing with the wind and the cold.

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I can't wait to do it.

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But before we can get into that game, happily, humbly wrong about the Detroit Lions game.

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On that pregame episode, Brandon and I, I think both predicted that while it would be

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a high scoring game, we thought Detroit was going to pull it out.

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Brandon, you can't predict the, you can't predict the injury to McNeil mid game or Davis

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mid game.

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And then Montgomery going down of course as well, like a big boon to the Bills, but,

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but it was injuries aplenty, particularly for the Bills who basically are rolling out

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a backup secondary in this game as well.

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So it was a time for these offenses to shine and they did.

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The reality is, is the Bills were able to get the game script they needed early on with

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a couple of key defensive stops as the Lions were figuring out their stuff.

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And unlike a lot of other game scripts for the Bills where the offense started slow,

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Allen and company came out red hot.

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Great opening scripts from Joe Brady.

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That lead that they built in the first half was, was enough to sustain them after the

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Lions got back on their back on offense.

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So we can dig in into into more detail, but JJ to me, it was as simple as that the Bills

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are such a game script sensitive team that what they did in the first half was enough

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to sustain them the length of the game.

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And that should be scary for other teams as this Bills squad heads into the playoffs for

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sure.

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Brandon, what were some of your observations from your pregame takes here?

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Yeah, so we knew this was going to be a really fun and exciting game to watch.

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You and I had talked about last time, like, why didn't they flex the game to prime time?

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Because I think everyone knew it was going to be kind of like this, but you're totally

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right.

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Putting up the 14 points to zero to start the game, put golf on his heels.

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He threw for a season high 59 and 494 yards, which you'd think any quarterback who throws

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for 494 yards, almost 500 would have won the game.

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I mean, they kept it exciting the whole time.

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So it was just really fun to watch a lot of different players kind of got highlighted

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a little bit.

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This is, you know, I wanted to bring up Ty Johnson.

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So maybe we'll get to that in a little bit.

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But who's this guy?

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Where have you been hiding him?

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We've been we've been keeping him on ice.

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It's he's a break glass in case of playing the Lions type of player.

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Yeah.

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JJ, what did you see that really stood out?

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I'll say this.

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I think that it feels like, and I don't know if this is a good analogy, but I'm going to

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make it anyway.

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It feels like when you're you have an appointment, right?

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And you you realize you're in the area of your appointment.

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And it's like, you're like, oh, I got like, I got like an hour and a half before this

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thing needs to take off.

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Like, I'm going to find something to do.

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I'm going to check out this new coffee shop or brewery or whatever.

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And then all of a sudden you find yourself 10 minutes late to your appointment.

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That's what the bills game felt like because with two minutes left in the third or in the

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third quarter closing on the fourth quarter, the bills were up 35 14.

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And it felt like the game was all but in the bag.

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And then they started trading yards for time.

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They kind of took it out of gear and started trading yards for time.

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And next thing they know, you know, the the Lions have crept up to within one touchdown

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with 12 seconds left.

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And so it was very much, you know, it seemed like they weren't frantic enough at the end

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for the whole fourth frame until crunch time at the very end, which is not something you

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can do against these elite teams.

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You have to, you know, keep your foot on the gas.

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And I think pretty early in the fourth quarter, they started trading, you know, yards for

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for time.

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And that was maybe not the best move.

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But I think that at the end of it, all I all I can say is Josh Allen, like he, if he can

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maintain this level of performance, I don't know, there's a team that can stop them the

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whole way.

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So except for these Patriots, right?

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What I want to say about that is, you know, I made fun of Josh Allen in previous years

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because he's been the interception king.

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Like he led the league and interceptions multiple years in a row.

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They figured it out.

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I mean, I think it's five interceptions on the season.

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And what he's doing on the ground is fairly incredible.

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So that I agree.

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He is the key to success at this point.

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He really is.

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I mean, completed passes to nine different pass catchers in this game, which JJ, we have

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we have harped on this point ever since we started this pod at his first iteration is

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keeping the receipts.

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When Josh can play point guard and keep opposing teams off balance by distributing the ball

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to a variety of different targets, he is at his most successful, and that's when you

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see a lot of those running lanes open up for him.

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When teams have to commit to defending multiple options in the past catching game on the field,

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that's when they got a pull a linebacker to catch a leak, a leak in James Cook out of

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the backfield or a leak in Ty Johnson.

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They've got to watch Dawson Knox coming off of his chip block and then heading out into

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a route.

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When teams have to commit to those things, it opens up the rush.

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Lanes for Josh Allen.

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And what I found very interesting about this game was that Allen had only been averaging

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heading into this game about 1.3 scripted runs per game.

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Brady knew exactly how he wanted to attack this Detroit Lions defense, particularly that

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linebacker core led by Jack Campbell.

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And he did it a lot with pass catchers coming out of the backfield and then scripted runs

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for Josh Allen.

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I mean, the timing could not have been better for Brady to dial a lot of these up.

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And he's really fine tuned his approach to finding what teams are the worst at defending

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and then rolling that out in the offensive game plan, we need to week, week to week.

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And that's what's throughout the most of me in the offensive side of the ball.

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I do want to talk a little bit about defense too, because I think it wasn't it wasn't all

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trash.

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The defensive line played well.

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But JJ offensively speaking outside of Josh Allen.

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What did you see that stood out to you the most about this offensive effort play calling

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running back contributions go for it?

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Yeah, I mean, I think that it's it's probably one more note on Josh Allen.

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The think the other thing that he's the extra arrow he's added to his quiver because I like

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I just have to get this point out.

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The extra arrow that he's added to his quiver this season that I had you see a little bit

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in previous seasons spotty here and there with fits and starts is the when a team dead

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a case a spy to him.

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The fact that he now reliably makes the perfect decision to toy with that spy by using his

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legs to approach the line of scrimmage and then just dumping it over their head or faking

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the dump over the head so they jump to try to block the pass and scooting around them

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like that he's gotten so good at making the perfect best call.

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And I don't know if it's film study.

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I don't know if he's studying, you know, the opponents to know exactly which, you know,

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trick is going to work on these guys, but that whole, you know, taking advantage of

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teams dedicating a spy to him by saying, okay, I'm either going to beat your spy up

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or I'm going to outsmart them.

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And that's one less defender who's going to be out in the routes, pinching the zones,

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whatever it might be.

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But from a scheme point this game, similar to the Rams game on offense, it was really

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Joe Brady in his bag, like he picked on the linebackers so ferociously and repeatedly

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that it was the kind of thing that the Lions could not actually adapt to because they also

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were injury depleted.

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I think that narrative has been too played because the bills also had no none of their

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starting secondary in and that's when you get games that are 48 to 42, 44, you know,

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And so it was really like they both were injury depleted units.

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And so high scoring affair, but really the scheme with Brady, his guys always had an

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answer and there was always room for yard after catch.

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The natural rub routes that he prepares are on the level of Andy Reed's work with with

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the chiefs, which has been part of the reason they've made it to so many championships

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and won them is that he always has a plan for that critical third and eight to get somebody

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open naturally without an egregious pick and that's what I think Brady has been really

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good at is identifying who is the player that's going to get lost in the in the clutter and

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making sure that he has a reliable patch catcher, whether it's Kurt Assamiel, Khalil

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Shakir, somebody who's coming through that area that's going to scrape their guy off

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by a Mack Hollins or a Keon Coleman or an Amari Cooper.

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Mac Hollins is so adept at those rub routes, he really is right and it helps that he's

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so big bodied, agile and athletic.

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He really is the perfect decoy in those situations.

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And he's got really good hair.

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It's fantastic hair.

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He's and he's so likable that I feel like the ref see him absolutely demolish somebody

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on one of those rub routes and they're just like, I didn't mean it.

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He's so nice.

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He's all right.

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I watch his Instagram videos.

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He's helpful.

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Yeah, he's he really is.

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It's really fascinating.

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JJ, what I liked here and what was a change of tactic from the Rams game was the use

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of James Cook and Brandon, I know you're a big James Cook guy.

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It is we have joked, but we're also serious.

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The thing that keeps our friendship alive is that you draft James Cook on your fantasy

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leagues.

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That's the only thing he had only gotten 45% of the snap share against the Rams, even

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though he was finding opportunities.

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Great course correction by Brady to really feature him early and often, but then sustaining

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his touches throughout the course of the game.

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James Cook has had better statistical games to me, JJ, but the way Brady chose to use

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him and the way that he pinpointed the opportunities he wanted to get Cook involved in the game

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to me was the most consistent use of cook that we have seen.

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I would argue since the Dallas game last season in Buffalo, I just really loved how

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he was deployed.

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It was there.

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It answered a lot of my frustrations from the Rams game about how Cook wasn't utilized.

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And again, it was to attack something so specific that Brady saw as a weakness in this

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defense, even pre all those injuries that happened during the game.

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The way he used to cook to exploit those linebackers in space was absolutely stellar.

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So if I love the way he game plan for cook, I know we're a week to week offense, but if

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I can get me just a little bit more of that here at the end of the season against the

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paths and the Jets and headed into the playoffs, I think even against a team like Baltimore,

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that implementation and that usage of cook could really help level the playing field

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against teams that are defensively a really bad matchup for this bill's offense.

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Brandon, tell us about your love of James Cook.

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Yeah, so it was good for him to reclaim his spot as the RB one for this team because it's

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been Josh Allen in recent memory, stealing all of the rushing touchdowns and rush attempts.

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And yeah, I hope that they increase his utilization as we are heading into playoffs, right?

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So those five receptions that went to tie Johnson, you know, I'm curious what the backfield

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is going to look like for this playoff bound bills team, because as we saw in that this

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past game, four different rushers between Davis, Cook, Johnson, and, you know, 11 rushes

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himself, Josh Allen.

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Yeah, I think it's going to look a lot like this.

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I get again, the only tweak I want to see in JJ, you can hop in here if you think this

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take is wrong.

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The only tweak I want to see is I do want to see a skew a little bit more towards Cook.

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I have loved his red zone usage this year.

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Last year he was only in the red zone on about 25% of the bill snaps.

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This year that has seen an uptick to just over 50% and dude is making it work.

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About 88% of his total touchdowns this season have come in the red zone.

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When he's given those opportunities, the same type of leverage that uses to run and find

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space in the pass and rush game between the 20s is also working for him in the red zone

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too.

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I just as much as I love Ty Johnson, and as much of a home run threat as he can be and

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we've seen him be and as much as I just love the way Ray Davis runs.

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To me, James Cook's got to be your 65%, 70% snap usage guy in the playoffs.

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Otherwise, like, what are we doing here?

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What are we doing?

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Ray Davis and Ty Johnson combined or James Cook.

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So just put James Cook out there for most of the time.

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No, I don't disagree with that.

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I think James Cook is an absolute weapon.

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And I think he's proven that the one thing I'll say is that when when the bills outside

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tunnel screen wide receiver stop screens, when the outside stuff is not clicking for

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them or tight ends to the perimeters are not clicking for them, James Cook is not as

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effective.

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If teams can clutter the middle of the field, then your zone read or your, you know, inside

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zone, your gap, anything gap or power with James Cook is usually not going as well.

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The reason that he was so effective on the limited touches when they did choose to run

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with him in this game, including breaking one, was that the Lions started spreading

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their defense towards the perimeter to stop some of the things that the bills were doing

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with their receivers tight ends and running backs around the edges.

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And then it, you know, a draw or a quick kind of inside duo was like absolute kryptonite

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once the Lions started drifting towards the perimeters.

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And that that I think is do that every time a team will do it.

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And to give a quick preview, the Patriots will 100% do that if you start hurting them

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on the outside.

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Yep, absolutely.

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They it's an area of the field that they're terrible at defending and they have to overcompensate

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for.

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One final shout out on the offense and then we'll quickly do a couple of quick hits on

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the bill's defense.

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How about that offensive line, man?

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Like the zero sex allowed thing can be a bit of a juiced up stat because Josh Allen is

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so evasive and so hard to bring down.

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But when you look at hurry rate, pressure rate, pass rush win rate, dude, this bill's

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offensive line is gelled and knock on wood healthy at the exact right time that they

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need to be.

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I mean, even with a lean, a lean McNeil going down, he played a majority of that game.

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Zadaria Smith, a lean McNeil, that is not an easy duo to shut down.

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And the bill's just kept Josh clean all day against a really, really potent mix of blitzes

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and organic four man pressure.

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I I listen, I had trepidation about the way they were approaching the line in the offseason.

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I feel very comfortable saying I was very wrong about that.

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This might be the best offensive line in the league.

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Well, and I think too, it's it's what happens when it at least it feels to me having been

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a Bill's fan for as long as I've been and seen Aaron Kroemer's fingerprints on the

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team with a previous iteration of the team when they were the NFL rushing leading team.

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And he was the line coach when Shady was here to now his, you know, reemergence with the

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bills.

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It definitely looks like he has more of his fingerprints on which offensive linemen they

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put in which spots and who they're choosing to sign and who they're choosing to draft.

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And I think that that makes all the difference because I don't actually trust Brandon Bean

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to make offensive line decisions in a telephone booth.

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But I 100% trust him to make those decisions with Aaron Kroemer.

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And this is actually Aaron Kroemer is my favorite offensive line coach in the league after Dante

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Scarniccia retired, because that I think was the secret to so much of the Patriots previous

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success during the Brady era was they could pick almost anybody and coach them into a

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serviceable line and then create an amazing amount of cohesion amongst that line and then

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kind of plug and play from there.

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Getting contributions from sixth and seventh rounders and undrafted people is is the way

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forward.

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And this bill's offensive line thankfully is doing that.

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I don't think anybody on the line is lower than a fifth rounder.

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Maybe David Edwards.

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Yeah, yeah, I don't know what David Edwards kind of draft pedigree was.

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But the team is you know, the line is talented across the board, but their ability to turn

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some of those undrafted and late round picks into amazing swing, you know, prospects and

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Alec Anderson and various others is is part of the reason that I'm 100% trusting.

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No matter what they choose to do as long as Aaron Kroemer is there, I'm good with this

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line and it's going to continue to be dominant.

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Couldn't agree more couldn't agree more.

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All right, real quick, let's flip it over to the defensive side of the ball for the

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bills, which was far less positive than the offensive side.

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Again, injuries reign supreme, particularly in the secondary.

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We got a healthy dose of Chair Elam in that game JJ the medicine we have been asking for

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from this this bill's coaching staff.

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But I want to start up front because this was the best game for this bill's defensive

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line that they've had all year.

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And unlike the Detroit Lions defense, it was a healthy offensive line that was rocking

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out multiple all pro caliber talent and Ed Oliver absolutely destroying anyone they put

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in front of him in a one on one matchup.

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His getoff the snap JJ was point eight seconds, his fastest recorded time since his rookie

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season like just absolute fire from at Oliver the whole game the game we've been waiting

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for him to have because of a slip in production.

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And it absolutely skyrocketed him to the top of a lot of cumulative and advanced metrics

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when it comes to pass, pass rush win rate, run stop win rate, quarterback carries quarterback

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hits.

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He had like a Jerry Judy esque type of rise where he was like 29th in a lot of these rankings.

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Now he's as high as 11th and 12th in a lot of these rankings.

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It's a great game from at Oliver.

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Well, and I think that Sean McDermott even mentioned it during his press availability

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early in the week that somebody asked him what he saw from Ed and he said, can you guys

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tell him he's he's terrible every week?

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Because that's what I mean pre Lions game.

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A lot of the media attention on that Oliver was where have your where's your production

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gone?

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Like you got the huge paycheck and had a good season immediately after being paid.

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And then this season, where are you?

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You disappeared and he took that personally.

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The fact that he reversed pancake Frank Ragnall on that one sack was just that's a very good

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center.

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That's like one of the best centers in the league.

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There's a top center.

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Got depleted onto his Tukas and and rolled over.

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I said it's you said so.

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It's a good word of the week, folks.

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Say it to us when you see us will buy you a beer.

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That's right.

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Tukas.

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All right, cool.

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All right, I think we have we have delved as deeply as we can into this Lions game.

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A little bit of concern, I think for the future of the defense as we head into the playoffs,

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but that is maybe a great segue to get into what we are all here for and what Brandon

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in particular is here for.

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Talk about Bill's Pats.

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Brandon, before we begin to officially get into our pre game here, this trip that we're

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taking to Orchard Park, correct me if I'm wrong, this is going to be your first live

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attended professional football game in your life.

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Is that correct?

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That is that is correct.

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And I appreciate changes reaction.

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I'm so happy for you.

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No, like that's not like, oh, this guy.

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No, that's like I'm really excited for you.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah.

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And it's a good way to be for that.

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I'm excited to share that with the very welcoming wholesome bills mafia.

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So I'm sure they will embrace me.

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Now I'll tell you this, Brandon, having been to many, having been to many bills Patriots

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games in my life in the post Brady post Bella chick era with your teeth, the Patriots have

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struggled for a few years.

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They've been picking higher in the draft.

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They haven't really sorted out the quarterback.

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We'll talk about that because I think they really have at this point.

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They nailed it.

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Yeah.

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The you will be embraced much more warmly in this weekend than if you showed up there

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10 years ago.

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10 years ago, you might have had a beer thrown at your head.

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But now people will be like, oh, look at this guy.

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Get over here.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Who wants a bigger?

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We should feed our poor Patriots.

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Your charity case.

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And like, and it'll be better than bowling ball.

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It'll be awesome for you as long as you're not like six rings, bitch, you know, like,

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yeah, that'll be cool for you until you.

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Well, you know, you can do it.

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You know, if fluids are flowing, sometimes judgment can be impaired.

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So they'll still they'll still be pleasant.

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You might just get some sneers.

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I just hope there's no snow in the stands because I don't want to get pelted with snowballs.

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Yeah.

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Very real risk.

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That is truly a risk.

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We have been JJ.

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We've been together one post Brady Patriots game and it was, of course, the perfect game,

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the wild card game and minus six degree weather in Orchard Park.

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And then I went to another Patriots game with another buddy of mine.

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It was the Naheem Hines game, the two return post to Marhan.

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Marhan was at the first place was first play of the game.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The return for that's down to that place was juiced.

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Oh my God.

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Some folks were, I'm sure.

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Yeah, you do.

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And it was the it was the one that like Josh Allen post game talking about how one of the

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like equipment guys told them that it was it was three years, three months and three

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days since they'd last returned to kick off for a touchdown.

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Yep.

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And that was the week after Damar Hamlin had died and been resuscitated.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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Oh, that was something special.

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Yeah.

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So I so been very fortunate to attend those two games, right?

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I'm trying to manifest a little something special into this game, JJ.

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I'm going to need help from you and all the listeners out there.

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Like this is a tinkerbell thing.

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We are very injured in our secondary and we have one Mike hide on the practice squad.

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I am trying to manifest into existence a Mike hide practice squad elevation for this game

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so that I can see Mr. Hide play at least one more time in Orchard Park in my lifetime.

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I'm hope I mean I'll be there with you.

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I'll tell my buddy Kevin to wear his Mike hide jersey and everything to let's make it

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happen to let's make it happen.

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All right, let's dig into this thing.

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JJ dealers choice.

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We will start with Bill's offense, Pat's defense or vice versa as we get into this

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pregame here.

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I mean, let's start with the hot hand and Bill's offense versus Pat's defense because

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it's it's the kind of thing we're like, I'm of two minds.

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On one hand, I want Josh Allen to continue this like absolutely bonkers, you know, game

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stretch he's been on where he's gonna set yet another NFL record and have a third consecutive

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game with two plus, you know, passing and two plus rushing touchdowns.

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I want that.

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But then there's the other the other mind which is like, let's save some of this like

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this isn't maybe the most important.

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Let's just have a nice efficient win and go out here in the injury free like we have

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more important things to get on to.

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And so, you know, for that, I may be leaning a little bit more towards I'm hoping that

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the bills, you know, we'll do a little bit more running.

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I know that the the Pat's defense has some vulnerability to the run, specifically when

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you get to their edges.

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They're much, much better than stout in the middle.

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Devon Godshaw, Christian Barmore's back like those are good stout run defenders in the

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in the center gaps.

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But if you can get outside the tackles and the bills have excellent outside tackle plays

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in their repertoire, I think you can really make some make some hay in this game.

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Yeah, I tend to agree with you on that one.

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I it's it's so hard because like Josh, every time he plays the Patriots, he wants to he

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wants to throw that 20 point touchdown, right?

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Like there is something about him playing for the bills and like knowing the torture

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and the agony that we went through during the Brady Belichick era that that Brandon's

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fandom is founded upon.

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And he just seems to want to destroy this team and at times he has played within himself

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and within structure to do that.

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But other times I think of the Mac Jones comeback game where I think Josh threw like two picks

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and had a had a fumble lost in that game where Josh has played outside of himself.

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I'm not worried about Josh playing outside of himself or overextending himself in this

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game, but he's going to want to look for the big one.

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And to me, even though this Patriots defense is the 30th ranked by DVOA in the league,

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they're really good at one thing.

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And that shutting down the deep pass on the season.

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They have allowed the third lowest completion percentage on passes of 20 or more yards down

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the field this year.

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I think Josh is going to want to test it and he's going to want to test Christian Gonzalez

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in particular, who has been the nearest defender in about half of those defended successfully

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defended pass attempts, but I'm with you.

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I'd like to see them run the Balmor and I'd like to see him do it do it around the outside

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tackle.

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And then I want to see Khalil Shakir eat.

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I also think Dalton Kincaid, they're going to be very tempted to use him up the same.

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He came back from injury in that Detroit game and JJ, as we've been pointing out, they've

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been using him as basically a way to extend the field through the middle of the field

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and exploit the same, which is what he did at Utah to perfection.

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So I don't think Brady is going to be interested in condensing the field too much, especially

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if they can't get the get the gap run game going.

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I think this could be a game where we see a lot of them are Cooper, a lot of Dalton Kincaid

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and a lot of can Coleman downfield strikes one after the other.

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I mean, I could see a situation where all three are running some sort of post or vert

462
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route and Josh just picks the one that's most dope.

463
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,920
Yeah, no, I like that.

464
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,200
I would say the other piece that and you know, we can certainly flip over to Brandon and

465
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,480
let him tell us what he thinks about.

466
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,680
I want to hear about Brandon.

467
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,600
The Patriots defense.

468
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,720
But I think that another, a couple of other things that the offense should focus on is

469
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:05,080
motion, under center play action, and then variable the rushing attack with pace and

470
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,080
tackle pulling.

471
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,560
We're talking about getting around the outside, getting to the edges.

472
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,360
The linebackers, I watched the Colts game, the Dolphins game and the Cardinals game,

473
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:19,040
a full game, all 22 footage to prepare for this.

474
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:26,280
And what I saw was the linebacker specifically to, to Vy can get frozen on play action and

475
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,480
can get sucked up on some different kind of motion and play action type stuff.

476
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,320
So run fakes are a good way.

477
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:39,920
And to the point where like the one thing you cannot do against the dolphins as a linebacker

478
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,220
is creep towards the line of scrimmage to leave a void behind you that Waddle or Tyree

479
00:28:45,220 --> 00:28:47,520
Kill can can fit into.

480
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,400
And they did that repeatedly.

481
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,400
I think that was a big problem in the Miami game for the Pats was every time, you know,

482
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,440
or not every time he wanted it accessible because that's to his whole bread and butter.

483
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,480
But many times, especially on critical third downs, they had some sort of play action or

484
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:09,360
motion and then the linebackers crept up Ellis and and to Vy specifically and just right

485
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,920
behind them, you know, Waddle or Hill filled or John O Smith.

486
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,280
And so I think that the tight ends also have opportunities here as well.

487
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:24,040
And then just one other note, anytime you can get Keon Coleman or Mari Cooper covered

488
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,680
by Christian Gonzalez, which I think is going to be often run to their side.

489
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,800
I like Christian Gonzalez as a cover.

490
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,720
I think he's one of the best ones in the league.

491
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,720
He's great.

492
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,920
But I think he actually plays a little bit smaller than his six foot 200 pound frame

493
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,040
when it comes to fitting the run.

494
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,440
And both of those players play bigger than their frame when blocking for the run.

495
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,440
Coleman in particular.

496
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,920
All right, Brandon, enter the chat here.

497
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:54,040
Tell us about your vaunted Patriots defense rank 30th in the league and DVOI.

498
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,720
So you know, it's an interesting metric to look at.

499
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,120
The Patriots are better defensively against the past than they are against the rush.

500
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:07,680
So like I'm kind of surprised by your take that they are going to be pitching it more

501
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,800
to Dan, I think you said Cooper and Coleman.

502
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:19,840
When you look just back at last week, Cooper had zero targets for no receptions.

503
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,240
Keon Coleman only had two targets.

504
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:28,720
So I'm almost expecting because the Patriots are better against the past, we have Christian

505
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,080
Gonzalez in the backfield covering that deep threat.

506
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:38,120
I think what's going to happen is Josh Allen is going to be doing these little check downs,

507
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,960
you know, to all these different running backs that you have.

508
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,360
But you know, don't hear what I'm not saying.

509
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,960
The Patriots are going to lose this game.

510
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:53,320
Nobody nobody's projecting a big upset, you know, from New England here.

511
00:30:53,320 --> 00:31:00,160
And I think you all need to think about keeping Josh Allen healthy for what comes next, which

512
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,440
isn't a whole lot.

513
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,440
Right.

514
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,720
Like after this game, you're going to see the Patriots again in two weeks.

515
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,040
So let's let's focus on keeping Josh Allen healthy.

516
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,640
He doesn't need to run as hard as he has been running.

517
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,840
Let's let's see what Ty Johnson has.

518
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,280
Let's see if Ray Davis can earn himself a bigger piece of the pie.

519
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:27,240
He's got to be doing better than, you know, about two and a half yards per carry, right?

520
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,520
And they want to see more than that to continue to give him the touches.

521
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:38,760
But what I also want to say is that in my fantasy football semifinal matchup, I am playing

522
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,240
against Josh Allen.

523
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:46,000
So I'd really prefer if he didn't throw the ball and just did the little check downs and

524
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,560
let the running backs do their work.

525
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,440
That's really what I'm open for.

526
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,440
It's valid.

527
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,440
It's valid.

528
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,480
And honestly, if the Patriots, if some key pieces of the Patriots were not getting healthy

529
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,600
at this time, I would totally agree with you.

530
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,080
I think this would be a James Cook feature game.

531
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,400
I think though, and listen, the bills have run into this before against the Patriots,

532
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,760
where they've gotten key pieces back at exactly the moment they're playing the bills and how

533
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,400
you think that game flow is going to go goes the opposite.

534
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,760
Because finally the Patriots have the dudes they want to plug into that situation.

535
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,920
And I think Barmore is absolutely one of those guys for sure.

536
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,640
And I think they're I think, listen, I also think there's going to be an element, Brandon,

537
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:30,240
you mentioned it, where the bills, they want to they want to put Josh on ice by the end

538
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,560
of the third quarter.

539
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,680
So I could see them potentially looking to attack early and often downfield, maybe throw

540
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,000
the ball where Christian Gonzalez ain't, which is why I'm thinking Kincaid, Cooper and Coleman

541
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,320
all become factors, because those are their three arguably best deep threats currently

542
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,680
sitting on the squad.

543
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,880
So the bills could want to get up early, sit some of their guys, truck up another division

544
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,760
win, but but we'll see.

545
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,800
But I think the run game is going to go.

546
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,720
It's going to have to be the way JJ describes it simply because what has been on film for

547
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,400
the Patriots over the last three weeks will not apply to this game and their run defense

548
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,640
game because they're getting some key pieces back.

549
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:16,280
I will say, though, I think that there's there's a lot of opportunity for the bills because

550
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,160
the Patriots defensive secondary has been good against the pass.

551
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:27,120
But I don't think the Patriots defensive secondary has faced a team with as many as many targeted

552
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,480
opera like playing against the dolphins.

553
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,680
The Patriots coverage was suffering a little bit just that they had Waddle Hill and John

554
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,800
Smith and then at one back out of the backfield, a Chan.

555
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,840
That's four target.

556
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,960
That's four possible targets.

557
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,840
The bills have shown that they'll use seven or more in any game.

558
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,280
And so they're going to probably just pick whatever they think the weakest coverage person

559
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,520
is and hit that match up as hard as they can as many times as they can.

560
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,800
So this might be one of those games like last week where Ty Johnson, everyone's like, where

561
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,280
did Ty Johnson come from?

562
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,200
This might be a week where all of a sudden everyone's like, oh, Dawson Knox went for

563
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,200
nine for 140 in the touchdown or two.

564
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,720
Like, well, exactly.

565
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,720
Well, exactly.

566
00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:09,720
Right.

567
00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:13,640
And I want to be clear, like, as we're saying, the Patriots are good against are good against

568
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,880
the pass.

569
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,160
That's relative to how this defense is performing overall against the run.

570
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:24,720
Like this is still the 31st ranked by DVOA pass defense in the league.

571
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:28,120
And they really struggle outside of defending the deep ball.

572
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,440
And again, that's because of Christian Gonzalez.

573
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:36,440
This is a unit that really struggles against the pass at a variety of levels of the field.

574
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,600
So I think the bills are going to be able to exploit thirds and sections of the field

575
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,700
with all the pass catchers.

576
00:34:42,700 --> 00:34:47,680
They can roll out not even factoring in running backs, which the Patriots are ranked 23rd in

577
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,560
the league and passing and passing defense efficiency in defending.

578
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,720
So let me just give you guys the numbers here.

579
00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:55,920
Overall rushing efficiency.

580
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,920
Patriots are absolutely average middle of the pack, right?

581
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,080
1717 than the league overall passing efficiency and defense.

582
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,160
They're 28th.

583
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,280
And I mentioned already 31st and DVOA.

584
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,480
I really do think the bills are going to be able to do what they want largely in the

585
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,480
passing game.

586
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,040
They're just going to have to get more creative if they want to exploit some of those deep

587
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,720
routes that they were against the Rams and they were against the Lions for sure.

588
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,320
All right.

589
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,320
Do we want to flip it?

590
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,040
We want to talk about the other side of the ball here.

591
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,040
All right.

592
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,520
So let's talk about Bill's defense against Brandon.

593
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,640
We're going to let you lead in Drake May.

594
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,880
What are your thoughts at this point in the season on Drake May?

595
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,640
He has shown some promise.

596
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,040
He also has a current active streak of I think it's seven games in a row, six games, seven

597
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,160
games in a row, throwing an interception.

598
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,920
So he's kind of hit that rookie wall at this point.

599
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,360
But we have talked about him being not necessarily maybe Josh Allen, but potentially Justin

600
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,920
Herbert, which is a really good QB to have.

601
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,920
So let's start with Drake May, man.

602
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,960
What are your thoughts and what do you think he's going to do against this injured, depleted

603
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,440
Bill secondary?

604
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,440
Yeah.

605
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,520
I love, you know, as a Pidgeots fan, what I'm seeing from Drake May.

606
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:15,320
It's it's still hard to watch, though, because I don't like the volatility of the situation

607
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:21,560
that he's in without a lot of offensive weapons.

608
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,720
And with a very, very Swiss cheese like offensive line.

609
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:28,800
So it's impressive.

610
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,640
He's playing as good as he's playing.

611
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:37,640
Given the circumstances, he's obviously doing a lot better as he's developing chemistry

612
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:42,600
with, you know, I think Jalen Polk and Hunter Henry, especially those those are kind of

613
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:50,040
the two guys who I think have the biggest potential, you know, in terms of being in

614
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,920
the red zone.

615
00:36:51,920 --> 00:37:00,280
So again, you know, I just really hope that he stays healthy, you know, long enough to

616
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:06,920
get to play the field with whoever comes in and probably the first round of this upcoming

617
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,920
wrap.

618
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,320
One of the top three picks.

619
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,120
So yeah, we'll be a little bit nervous for this one, only because I agree with you.

620
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:20,960
I think the May Hunter Hunter Henry connection is strong.

621
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,600
And the bills for all of their their faults and they have many on defense, they really

622
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,360
do struggle against defending opposing team tight ends.

623
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,600
And Matt Milano taking the large chunk of snap share that he is as he works his way

624
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,600
back from Dorian Williams, it doesn't necessarily help that equation.

625
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,720
And Henry has had some pretty strong games against the bills with a subpar Mac Jones

626
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,360
as is QB in the past.

627
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,560
So is it enough to win them the game?

628
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,560
No.

629
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,240
But is it enough to maybe extend some drives against a bill's defense that struggles to

630
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:56,560
get off the field on third down and maybe keep Josh off and give you guys some hope?

631
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,560
I think absolutely.

632
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,720
But Brandon, I think you nailed it with that offensive line, the offensive line that the

633
00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:06,800
Patriots were rolling out in this game, 30th in the league and past block win rate, 31st

634
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,760
in the league and rush stop win rate.

635
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:15,720
So they are not giving their skill position players a whole lot of advantageous opportunities

636
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,960
when they are when the ball is snapped.

637
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,040
It's a lot of Drake may just having to figure it out and really improvise, right?

638
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,720
JJ, what about you?

639
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:27,600
What do you think this bill's defense is going to do against this really, really depleted

640
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,600
offense?

641
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,080
So, yeah, I think that there's going to be for Bill's fans, there's going to be an annoying

642
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:38,400
amount of completions that extend drives to Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper.

643
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:44,480
There's also probably going to be at least one, maybe, maybe three to five, Ramon Dre

644
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,680
Stevenson runs where you're just like, he always does that too.

645
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,720
And then there's going to be two to four, Antonio gives out.

646
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:57,120
Let's like listen back to see if I get all these numbers perfectly right.

647
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,440
Two to four, Antonio Gibson, third down, like quick dump offs that he's going to turn into

648
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,720
something amazing, because Antonio Gibson has actually punished the bills at different

649
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,440
from different teams.

650
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,680
And so he's a player that has been a little bit of kryptonite towards Sean McDermott.

651
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,400
So it's all going to really come down to tackling.

652
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,200
I like Drake may having watched a bunch of his games at this point.

653
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,720
I think that he's like, I think that the Herbert comp is super appropriate.

654
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:31,920
But I think he's got a little bit more of that dog in him when it comes to his willingness

655
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,920
to kind of mix it up and use his legs and things like he looks like Josh Allen in his

656
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,080
rookie season as a runner more often minus the hurdles.

657
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,080
So yeah, yep, you're talking dirty to me.

658
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,040
The last thing you said, or you said he looks like Josh Allen.

659
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,040
Yeah, give me more of that.

660
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,520
I'll give you I'll give you even more, which I'll say he looks like Josh Allen in his rookie

661
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,720
season with less crazy running.

662
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:58,400
But so his running looks similar, but his throwing is better.

663
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,520
Rookie Josh Allen was not a good throw.

664
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:01,520
Not a good throw at the football.

665
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,840
He was way off on a lot of things.

666
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,200
And may looks more like Herbert as a rookie than Josh Allen is a rookie when it comes

667
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,240
to where he's putting the ball and how his touch passes specifically.

668
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:16,960
This is a quick aside, but do you guys hold your breath every time Josh Allen tries to

669
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,200
hurtle somebody?

670
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,160
Yes, it's it's it's such a why because he does it a lot.

671
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,920
Is it way too many times like an alarming amount?

672
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,680
And those are the plays where somebody gets really hurt.

673
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,680
Right.

674
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,600
Yeah, no, he he if he wasn't if it wasn't confirmed that his skeleton is adamantium

675
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:43,560
and he has a healing factor like the Wolverine, I don't I think we'd all be much more worried.

676
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,920
Listen, Josh is going to find out that his agility has left him the same way all of us

677
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,120
old ass 40 year old men do.

678
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:56,680
I was playing in a summer softball league a couple of years ago.

679
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,800
And my the last iteration of me playing softball was maybe 15 years before that.

680
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:08,080
And man, I could I could I could easily score from second to home on a single knocked into

681
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,400
whatever area of the outfield you could think of.

682
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,360
And I found myself a couple of years ago trying to score from second to home.

683
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,240
The throw beat me by a good 10 feet.

684
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:19,440
But you know what I thought I was going to do?

685
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,040
I'm just going to jump over the catcher.

686
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:29,280
Nope, because I'm 40 and realize that part of my athleticism had left me maybe 12 years

687
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,280
earlier.

688
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,520
I do this really funny odd one footed para wet when I realize my frame won't get off

689
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,360
the ground and I'm embarrassingly tagged out.

690
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,840
Josh is going to find that out the hard way.

691
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:45,480
One of those moments that 27 to 37 when you try to hurdle an NFL player is going to look

692
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,960
a lot different.

693
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,280
Yeah, absolutely.

694
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:55,040
You know, as a person who start who picked up rugby for the first time at 35.

695
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,120
I can say that was a terrible choice to for my old frame.

696
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,280
I just you play rugby.

697
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,880
I did play rugby for two seasons from 35 to 37.

698
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:10,840
And then last year I had a three and a half hour shoulder surgery to repair the damage

699
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,120
of my last rugby game.

700
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,120
Oh boy.

701
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,960
Are you a second rower or I was a seven.

702
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,120
Oh, oh my goodness.

703
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,400
I was spelt.

704
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,000
So I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

705
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,320
Yeah, this is now the now the.

706
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,120
We're going to spin off and do a different podcast on rugby.

707
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,280
I'll just leave you guys alone.

708
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,280
It's fine.

709
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,200
So flipping back to the bills Patriots game, though, just a note on the bills defense versus

710
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,600
the Patriots offense.

711
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,080
You mentioned the offensive line, Brandon, you said Swiss cheese.

712
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,920
And I know like we always give the caveat that pro football focus is not to be all and

713
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,600
all, but they are a consistent ratings, you know, source.

714
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,600
They put numbers out.

715
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:56,280
They put numbers on things and we can use them to sort of, you know, trendset.

716
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,520
I just looked as like curious, what are the PFF rankings for the Patriots linemen?

717
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,800
So they have the 80th out of 80 rated tackles in Jacobs, right tackle.

718
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,280
They have the 42nd out of 42 center in Brown at the pivot.

719
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:18,000
The 74th out of 75 rated left guards and Robinson.

720
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,840
And then the 72nd out of 80 left tackles and low.

721
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,200
And I know they have some people on IR, they have some injuries.

722
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,680
So it's this is not their preferred top unit.

723
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:33,720
And the unit has shuffled and changed throughout the season, just recently becoming more consistent.

724
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:35,600
So they've developed a little bit of that.

725
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:41,080
But without Michael on when you at right guard, like I it's the worst line I've seen this

726
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,080
season.

727
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:47,680
Yeah, it really does feel like the bills should be able to get adequate pressure on Drake

728
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,680
May.

729
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,120
Keep them in a bit of a pass rush cage, right?

730
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,120
Because he will he will dip out.

731
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,720
He will work his way around the edge similar to Josh and in similar in a way to how Justin

732
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:02,280
Herbert is now running the ball in in LA this year.

733
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,720
But organic four man standard rush.

734
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:07,760
Confuse your looks pre snap.

735
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,080
Drop unexpected guys back post snap.

736
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,080
Drop seven.

737
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,560
And like, let me beat you with his brain and not as athleticism.

738
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:21,360
And that's what McDermott has been so good at scheming up against young up and coming

739
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,360
QBs.

740
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,680
Even when you look at his record against QBs with three or less seasons in the league.

741
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,200
I mean, it's just stellar when he has put together as far as a win-loss record.

742
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,160
So I think this could be a game where the McDermott special of mixing your looks, mixing your

743
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,160
coverage could work.

744
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:43,480
Though I will say may for a rookie QB really good against cover two zone really good against

745
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,680
cover six, which the bills like to run a lot too.

746
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,440
So that's the only caveat I would put on that four man rush has to get home if you're going

747
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,760
to drop back and play zone, particularly with a beat up secondary that's likely to feature

748
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,240
Kyrie Lim again.

749
00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:04,520
Well, and I think the more effective coverage needs to be a blended zone man concept where

750
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,560
they they've they did in the past.

751
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:12,320
They played in a few of the earlier season wins where they would have half field zone,

752
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,680
half field man and different things like that.

753
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:20,200
Mixing coverages, having safety open and safety closed on the same concept, you know, middle

754
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:26,520
field open, middle field close in the same snap, switching and rotating because yeah,

755
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,240
like I said, he reminds me of Josh Allen with the running.

756
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:33,920
He reminds me of Herbert with the throwing, but he has better decision making than I think

757
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,920
either of those guys in the rookie season.

758
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:37,920
Absolutely.

759
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,920
All right, guys, are you ready for prediction?

760
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,960
Sure to go wrong.

761
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,440
Our honored guest, Mr. Brandon Bennett.

762
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,800
Here is what you have unfolding before you.

763
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,480
The Buffalo Bills open this game as 14 and a half point favorites.

764
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,520
That line now according to draft Kings is 14 in favor of the bills over under on this game

765
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:05,640
is 46 and a half points, the bills are ridiculous minus 1000 on the money line to win.

766
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,480
So Brandon, let's start with you.

767
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,240
Final score prediction for this game, sir.

768
00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:22,360
I'm going to go ahead and give the bills 41 to a modest Patriots six.

769
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,080
Damn.

770
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:33,360
I think I think Ramon Dre will get them close enough twice on the ground or Antonio Gibson

771
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,720
to kick in a few field goals.

772
00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:41,560
I think they'll get close enough for a long, a long one, but Sly will probably miss that.

773
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,000
So yeah, 41 to six.

774
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,200
Dude, do you even want to go to this game?

775
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,200
Are you okay?

776
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,320
So I told you, I mean, I told you in fantasy playoffs, I'm playing against Josh Allen.

777
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:59,560
So I'm going to be very excited if, you know, Josh Allen doesn't do a whole lot, which

778
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,880
as a Patriots fan, you know, it all works out.

779
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,520
It all comes full circle.

780
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,520
Amazing.

781
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,520
JJ, what about you?

782
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,520
Score prediction?

783
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,600
Yeah, so that's that's pretty bold.

784
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,760
I know that the Patriots have like one of the leagues, one of the league worst offenses

785
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,240
and tend to get off the field on third down and in the red zone or kicking field goals

786
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:21,680
more than almost anybody.

787
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,280
But I just, I don't know, man, I've seen some improvements from May and I think that this

788
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:32,840
bills secondary, especially if they're missing a few pieces in the safeties or outside corners

789
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,720
can be had a little bit.

790
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:40,720
And I've liked some of the, you know, wide receivers for the Patriots and I'm more afraid

791
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:42,120
of the tight ends.

792
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,160
I've got the bills winning 38-21.

793
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:50,080
I think it's one of those games that is way, way farther apart than the final score indicates

794
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:56,200
and that maybe the bills are leading early in the fourth, you know, 30, 35 to seven or

795
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,400
35 to 14.

796
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:04,240
And then the Patriots score kind of a garbage time touchdown to make it look closer.

797
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:10,440
So I think the Patriots are going to use a heavy dose of running back screen game, particularly

798
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,200
with Gibson, which the bills are awful at defending.

799
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,560
We've already talked about their propensity to lose matchups against tight ends as well.

800
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,120
And I think it's going to be enough for, and this is a Buffalo Bills team that that Detroit

801
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:29,240
game aside, they do not control the play clock in the same way and time of possession in

802
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:33,360
the same way that they did last year when they were second in the league in total time

803
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,240
of possession owned after Brady took over this year.

804
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:38,240
There's 17.

805
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:40,960
I mean, a lot of it is because they can score so quickly.

806
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,840
But I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that this Buffalo Bills defense, regardless

807
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,760
of caliber of competition, cannot get off the field on third down just can't do it.

808
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:55,200
And I think the Patriots have enough to annoyingly JJ to your point earlier, extend some drives.

809
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,680
I think the bills pull it out, but I don't think they cover.

810
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,360
I think 14 is ridiculous spread to have in a professional football game.

811
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,640
I've got bills 27 Patriots 17 in this game.

812
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,520
I think they're going to do enough to make this annoying and make it closer than we want

813
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,520
it to be.

814
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,400
And listen, division games are always weird.

815
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,840
Strike mays first time playing in Buffalo against Josh Allen.

816
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,720
I think there's going to be some extra juice there.

817
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:19,920
Yeah, you guys are both wrong.

818
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:20,920
I'm right.

819
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:21,920
You're wrong.

820
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,920
We appreciate you.

821
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,240
If that's true, I hope I hope you're right, Brandon.

822
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:27,240
I hope you're right.

823
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:28,920
That's a better game for me to watch.

824
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:34,000
Well, if if if it was if the result is Brandon's prediction, it's going to be a four quarter

825
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,720
party in high mark like it was in the playoff game, the perfect game.

826
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:45,600
Like Dan, we were what we were sweating it for like the first 17 minutes until the until

827
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:51,760
the like a hide red zone back and you know, center fielder pick off of Mack Jones in the

828
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,760
end zone.

829
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,800
And that that literal moment, nobody was worried for the rest of the game.

830
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,040
And it was just a three quarter party.

831
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,040
Yep, absolutely.

832
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,040
Lots.

833
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,320
We're going to sing hopefully Brandon, if it goes the way you you think is going to go,

834
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,240
we'll be singing a lot of Mr. Brightside in the stands for sure.

835
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:08,240
For sure.

836
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:09,960
All right, prop bets.

837
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,680
I've got one.

838
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,680
I've got one.

839
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,680
It's actually about the Patriots.

840
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,440
So I mentioned it before.

841
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,720
Drake may seven consecutive games confirmed NFL next gen stats, where he has thrown at

842
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:25,680
least one interception that is the longest current active streak of the year.

843
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,320
Does he throw another one to a Buffalo Bills defense that has failed to turn over their

844
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,280
opponent in the last two weeks after living off of turnovers all season?

845
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,840
So over under Drake may have an interception.

846
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,180
I'm going to go over.

847
00:50:43,180 --> 00:50:51,680
Because I yeah, one, I think it's it's going to be a linebacker more than a defensive back

848
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,680
in this game.

849
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,440
And I think it's going to be when he's targeting one of the I think it's going to be an under

850
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,320
pressure throw to Hunter Henry or Austin Hooper that role or not.

851
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,120
Or just sneaks and grabs.

852
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,840
Yeah, Bernardo is so good at that.

853
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,120
He's so good at trailing those seam routes for tight ends.

854
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,800
It's amazing the Bills are not better at defending tight ends with him on the roster this year.

855
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,800
It really is.

856
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,480
Brandon, what about you?

857
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,680
Drake may over under half an interception.

858
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,480
Is he going to throw back?

859
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:23,720
Yeah, I think over because I think he's going to be trying to get the ball out quick.

860
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:26,120
I think we're going to see a lot of pressure on him.

861
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:32,400
And so it's almost going to be one of those like volleyball set interceptions where, you

862
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:39,080
know, a rusher pops the pass up into the air and then the defender scoops it and snags

863
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,080
it.

864
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,480
So that's what I think it's going to be.

865
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,480
OK, I'm going to go over to just because the Bills are due and like it's a rookie QB

866
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,000
playing in Buffalo.

867
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,440
That's a tough environment.

868
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,480
Even though I think the game will be closer than we think I think may may probably throw

869
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,480
us one.

870
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,200
All right, JJ Brandon, either of you have a prop.

871
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,640
I've got one.

872
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,040
Just one.

873
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:11,560
I while watching this, the the Patriots watching the Patriots games prior, they are remarkably

874
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:17,560
good at special teams as our most teams that get kicked too often.

875
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,560
You know, they get a lot of practice.

876
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:20,560
Yeah.

877
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,800
So and that's, you know, something that should be Hall of Famer Steve Tasker says all the

878
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:29,320
time is that teams who get scored on a lot tend to be really good at returning kicks.

879
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:34,920
I have over under a half of a special teams touchdown, this being one of the better special

880
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,960
teams units in the league.

881
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,720
You've pulled this one out a couple of times this year.

882
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:41,960
I just feel like it's going to happen on the boat.

883
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,560
I drink the cooling.

884
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,560
They're terrible.

885
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:45,560
Yeah, they're bad.

886
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:46,560
It's so bad.

887
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:47,560
They're bad.

888
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,560
They're just bad at it.

889
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,560
Right.

890
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,320
Brandon, I'll give this one to you first over under special teams touchdown for the Patriots

891
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,320
is that we're asking.

892
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,720
Yeah.

893
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:57,880
Over under what?

894
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,120
Over under half a touchdown.

895
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,560
So will the Patriots score a special teams touchdown?

896
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,360
No, I'm going to stand by my score prediction.

897
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,840
I don't think the Patriots get any touchdowns.

898
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,880
A man of principle and consistency.

899
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:11,880
I like it.

900
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,960
I'm also going to go under just because like, God, that'd be terrible.

901
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,480
Like the last Patriots game I saw was Naheem Hines scoring two touchdowns.

902
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:20,480
Yeah.

903
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,400
Now I'm going to have to suffer through someone on the Patriots doing it.

904
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,400
I can't.

905
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,600
I karma please.

906
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,080
You've done enough to me as a bills fan.

907
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,080
All right.

908
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,080
So no Marcus Jones punt return TD.

909
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,520
No, no, absolutely not.

910
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,520
I'm going to say over just because it's my prop.

911
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,520
I hate it when you do this prop.

912
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,720
It always makes me nervous.

913
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,360
It always makes me nervous when you target special teams.

914
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,760
Brandon, you got a prop for us?

915
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,000
Oh, it's not so much a prop.

916
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,720
No, I will.

917
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:47,720
I will.

918
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:51,760
Drake may over under 200 receiving yards.

919
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,880
Oh, you mean passing yards?

920
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,880
Or yes, passing yards.

921
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:56,880
Thanks.

922
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,080
I'm going to say over.

923
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,680
I'm going to say over.

924
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:05,080
Listen, I think I think we're sleeping on Van Pelt.

925
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,640
I think he's going to call a game that is going to take a lot of the free space that

926
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,400
the bills are going to give him.

927
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,000
And I think it's like 270 yards on like 36 attempts.

928
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,000
It's one of those types of games.

929
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,720
It's like what I like to call the Aaron Rodgers special.

930
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:21,360
So I think it's one of those.

931
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,040
I think part of that might have to do with the game script too.

932
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,920
If the bills take an early lead and the Patriots feel like they have to pass and have a sense

933
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:34,160
of urgency, I think you're just going to see May slinging it to underneath routes to

934
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:40,400
Hooper Hunter stuff that the bills have throughout the season given up to teams and said, sure,

935
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,280
you know, propagate the ball down the field in six or seven yard chunks because you're

936
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,720
going to have to go 14 plus plays and we don't think you're going to do that mistake free.

937
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:55,400
Right now draft Kings has the player production for Drake may set at 199.4 yards.

938
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,680
So Brent Brandon's kind of nailed this one on the prop end of things.

939
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,480
I am going to say over though.

940
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:05,840
I just think it's going to be a volume type of situation that gets me there.

941
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,840
What about you, Brandon?

942
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,240
Did you give us a guess?

943
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:11,480
I don't think I did.

944
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:17,120
I would say over but and because I really think it's going to be like 211.

945
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,240
It's going to be like maybe that much more.

946
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:23,400
I also wanted to ask you guys who you thought essentially what is going to be the bills

947
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,900
leading receiver?

948
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:27,640
Are we going to see a resurgence of a Murray Cooper?

949
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,520
Is Keon Coleman going to shine?

950
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:35,000
Is it going to be anybody shining or you know, just even distribution?

951
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,600
I'm going to I want to take this one and this is another thing I need to manifest.

952
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:45,280
Dalton can take over a hundred yards.

953
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,280
Please for the love of God.

954
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,800
He's been asking for this all season.

955
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,440
Can I get one before I die?

956
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:57,560
Dalton Kincaid up the seam four or five times for chunk yardage plays.

957
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,800
But I'm going to say Kincaid because I'm going to say Kincaid because I don't think we'll

958
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:08,920
see we'll see we'll see a lot of favorable matchups for Kincaid up the seam in zone and

959
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,640
a lot of various situations.

960
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,880
He looked healthy in that Lions game.

961
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,680
He ran with a lot of purpose and a lot of speed on his routes, which we haven't seen

962
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,120
that Christmas from him really since the end of last year.

963
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:25,040
I'm going to say Kincaid just because for the love of God, I need to see it.

964
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,160
I need to see it so I know this kid's not a bust.

965
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,160
That's fair.

966
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,960
I'm going to go with Khalil Shakir because that's that is the safe answer.

967
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,320
Dude, that's a safe answer.

968
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,440
He catches like it's like eighty nine percent of everything thrown his way at this point

969
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,920
and it was a hundred percent through seven weeks.

970
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:49,000
Oh, so I think a lot of the times when teams get this close to the playoffs and even in

971
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:55,120
playoffs, sometimes a player emerges, you know, and they just start shining with the

972
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,720
energy from fans, but also kind of the excitement of the moment.

973
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:06,360
We saw that with the bills a couple of years ago in Isaiah McKenzie, who just started blossoming,

974
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,920
you know, in the playoffs.

975
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,280
So who do you think it's going to be?

976
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,000
You want to give us an answer?

977
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:20,760
I thought you were setting us up for this is Curtis Samuel's breakout game.

978
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,320
Okay.

979
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:28,600
I think probably I agree with JJ.

980
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,120
I think Khalil Shakir.

981
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,120
Safe bet.

982
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,120
Safe bet.

983
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,120
Come on, Kincaid.

984
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,120
Come on.

985
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,120
I need this.

986
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,120
Give it to us.

987
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,120
A hundred yard game here against the Pats.

988
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,680
All right, guys.

989
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,080
Well, prediction sure to go wrong.

990
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,240
Wrapped podcast wrapped.

991
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,400
Brandon, thank you for joining us.

992
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,080
We'll invite you back for the postgame, too.

993
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:53,200
You give everybody your thoughts not only on the game, but your first live NFL game

994
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,200
experience.

995
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,600
Can't wait to introduce it to you, my friends.

996
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,400
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997
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,400
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998
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,400
And as always, go Bills.

999
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:10,400
Go Bills.

1000
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Go Bills.

1001
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Go Bills.

1002
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Go Bills.

1003
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Go Bills.

1004
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Go Bills.

1005
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Go Bills.

1006
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Go Bills.

1007
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Go Bills.

1008
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Go Bills.

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Go Bills.

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Go Bills.