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I'll come back to the Buffalo bread podcast.

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This is a postmortem for the corpse of the once mighty Buffalo Bills who fell before the

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onslaught of the murder of Ravens this past Sunday night.

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Dan, I'm going to start this pod with a public apology.

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I think it was my fault.

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I started the game wearing a Josh Allen away jersey and a charging buffalo hat, blue charging

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Buffalo logo hat, and they absolutely look like trash.

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And then at the half, I switched to a great Russo home jersey with a standing Buffalo,

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you know, throwback hat.

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And they still look like trash.

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So I just can only assume I don't have the proper jersey and hat combo in my war chest

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in order to have pulled this one out for Bill's mafia.

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And for that, I'm very sorry.

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I don't blame you.

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I blame Joe Brady.

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No, I'm just kidding.

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It's week four.

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We're not doing that stuff yet.

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I mean, JJ, it was, listen, we're going to get into it and we're going to break it down

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to the best of our ability.

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The simplest summary that I can come up with for that game was that they were bigger, faster

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and stronger than we were.

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And they did what up until that point no one else had done, which is challenge the Buffalo

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bills defensively in all the areas we knew that they were weak.

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They came out with a varied offensive game plan.

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And we'll get into this as we get into the breakdown.

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They had some very specific targets they wanted to pick on them, both the run and the pass

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game.

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And they executed to great efficacy.

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It was beat down.

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We were outplayed.

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We were outmatched.

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And there's nothing you can really do but tip your cap and move on.

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Though I will say I see a lot of bills mafia on Twitter being like, yeah, they got the

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best of us, but we'll see them in January.

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I don't ever want to see that team again.

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Don't ever want to play that team again.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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And I mean, we need to start.

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I'm looking forward to getting into it too, even though I'm still reeling from that defeat.

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The top story though is kind of the breaking news that just came out this afternoon.

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Von Miller has been suspended by the NFL for violating the personal conduct policy.

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We can only presume that this is in connection to the domestic violence allegations from

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last year that came through.

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And it's likely that the NFL has concluded their investigation into the matter and rendered

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this judgment.

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That means he won't be available till after the Buffalo Bills return from their trip

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to play the Seattle Seahawks.

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What's your opinion of this whole situation and what it means for the bills?

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Personal conduct, particularly around issues of domestic violence are something that the

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league has suffered a lot of criticism around for many, many years.

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And I think, setting aside the Buffalo Bills gear, you've got to respect the finding of

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the league.

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I'm sure, and I've already seen it.

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There's some grumblings with how long the process took.

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The timeline JJ doesn't bother me.

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I think take as much time as you need to get sensitive and serious issues like this correct.

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And if the league feels like they got this correct, I have no issues with the timing

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either.

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Because if even half of the allegations are true, Vom's should be sitting.

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We talked about this last season as well, how weird it was that the Bills just kind

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of ran him out there at the height of this thing.

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And that there should be some things personally, professionally that are simply bigger than

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football as an organization.

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So to me, I have no qualms with this, though I'm sure there will be criticisms about the

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timing around this.

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That's off the field.

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On the field, like it hurts, but not as much I think as people think.

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Von played nine snaps against the Ravens.

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And that is because he is what we thought he would be when we signed him, which is a

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third down, pass rush specialist.

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They no longer trust him to negate anything off the edge in the run game.

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So it is what it is.

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We'll have to make up for it, but it is not the loss that it would have been maybe two

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or three years ago.

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I think that's very aptly put in both football terms and human terms.

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I don't have any more notes on it other than I am frustrated with the league in terms of

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how long it takes these things.

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But I think you know, you make a really good point, which is you want to get it right.

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You want to be thorough and you want to be sensitive to all the parties involved.

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So you know, it is what it is.

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We'll see, you know, if he has an impact when he returns after the suspension, and we'll

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also see what this, you know, what the bills in a tactical football sense do on those third

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downs with the different pressure packages, they want to they want to roll out to replace

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this because I do think that he's been having a decent season in those limited snaps.

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Still, I agree with you, he's a liability to hold the edge in, especially in a physical

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smash mouth rushing attack.

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It is now Casey to Hill season, my friend.

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And that is where we are at with this.

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Boohia.

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Well, I mean, they've got Devon or Dewan Smoot back, but he's been playing a lot more inside,

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which I'm surprised by.

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I don't think they love their depth of defensive tackle.

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We kind of felt this coming into the season.

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We thought Smoot would definitely be kind of like a rotational piece on both the edge

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and the inside, but they've been using him to spell both Oliver and Dequan Jones at a

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rate that so I think they're trying to kind of patch this thing together along the defensive

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front as they move along.

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Yeah, I think that's that's true.

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Speaking of the defensive front, the Derek Henry made his daddy on Sunday night or made

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his children.

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He is our daddy.

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It was it.

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Oh, it was pitiful.

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It was absolutely pitiful watching the bill's defensive front, which I thought I thought

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was looking excellent through three games being totally manhandled.

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And whether it was Derek Henry or who was there the run back that was spelling him Justice

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Hill.

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Yeah, Justice Hill and like maybe the only time in Chris Collins were Collinsworth's entire

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broadcasting career.

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He said something that I found humorous, which was Justice Hill, where I think that the Supreme

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Court should be should be found.

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I was like, that's that's actually pretty good.

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Okay, um, keep your politics out of the Booth Collinsworth.

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That's funny.

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It's also fun.

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You guys are just both crushing it.

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No, but Justice Hill, you know, a scat back a little bit of a jitterbug.

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He was untouched until about four or five yards almost every time he ran the ball.

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And the bills had no rush lane discipline.

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They looked like they were playing afraid to get beat, which they should have been after

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the first play from scrimmage for the Ravens was a Derek Henry house call.

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That was the moment in the game where, you know, with 30 seconds in or one bill's three

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and out in, I was like, Oh, no.

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And I don't know, I think a lot of bills, mafia felt that way.

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I immediately went into a meditative state after that Derek Henry run because I just

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I knew where the rest of the game was going to go.

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And dude, they ran it right at Rousseau.

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Allegedly our best edge defender when I'm supplying.

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They were they were just like strength on strength, man.

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Yeah, they ran it right at Rousseau.

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And I mean, the lane that Henry had to burst through unbelievable.

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And you know, it's interesting because as you look at you look at what his run paths

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were on each of his handoffs compared to what they have been in the previous few weeks.

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This really mirrored the Dallas game in some interesting ways, but most for most for the

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most part, they started to get Henry more running through the tackles and outside the

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tackles, which was always his strength in Tennessee.

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Like because he is so big, people think, Oh yeah, just run him up the gut.

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That's what you do with Henry.

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And that was lending itself to some predictability in the first few weeks of the ball.

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To more run game, because that's effectively how they had pigeonholed him.

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But starting with the Dallas game and then moving on to our game against the bills, they

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started to find some of that that run path success he had had in Tennessee.

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And dude, it really paid dividends.

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And he had good reminder.

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He's not just big.

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He is insanely almost inhumanly fast.

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Like I'm sure you saw all that stuff online comparing his top speed on that run versus

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Xavier Worthies.

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The fastest man in the history of the combine, his top speed on that 52 yard TD reception

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he had from the homes.

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Like someone like Henry should not be running that fast, but props to Todd Monk and for

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finally figuring out that you can use Henry more than just running him into a heavy box

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up the middle.

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I mean, yeah.

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And I think that, you know, I'm going to throw some flowers down at the feet of the

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mountain, Daniel, Mount filet, Lea, because that dude is 380 pounds.

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And he was the person I saw the most when the, when the Ravens wanted to run, they ran

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right off that right side.

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It was either grew so or at Oliver, who usually line up on the right side, both of them light.

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So is not light for the position, but he's light because of his height.

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And then it Oliver's undersized in every possible way.

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And so just, you know, the fact that they had filet, Lea, who was almost four, four

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bills, um, road grading in that direction was, and it created a situation where like

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how many times did they pass it like nine times or something?

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It was not, not, it was not a pass of a game.

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I think Lamar had, I think Lamar had 17 total dropbacks.

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I think it was 17.

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So it was, they would just control the game script from top to bottom and they just did

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what they wanted to.

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The two bills had two or three stops, one on a turnover and then two kind of, you know,

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where they forced to punt and it just, oh man, it was, it was so bad.

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It was, it's, and it's hard to put into any more rational terms than that, but it was

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just domination start to finish.

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And they, I mean, Baltimore knew who they wanted to pick on and they knew they were

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going to run right at Oliver, right at Russo.

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And this has been a standing issue for the Buffalo bills when they go up against bigger

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offensive lines.

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Can they dominate offensive lines like Jacksonville where they've got some more athletic pieces

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like a Mitch Morris and win with technique?

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Can they do that against just a dumpster fire or an offensive line in Miami?

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But when you put a, even a semi well coached offensive line that has some size up against

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this defensive line of the bills, they disappear time and time and time again.

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And they didn't get much help JJ in the secondary either or from the linebacker core because

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Baltimore figured out, oh, Matt Milano isn't in fact playing.

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Jarell Bernard also not in fact playing.

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Taryn Johnson not on the field.

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So let's just go after all of his replacements, which they did not just in the run game and

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the design QB run game, but they did it intentionally in the past game too.

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Out of some of those 17 dropbacks, 12 targets that Lamar Jackson had in that game were targeted

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to a nearest defender of either Dorian Williams or Cam Lewis.

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QB rating on throws to Dorian, that went at Dorian Williams was a 118.

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Cam Lewis was a 107 and all targets were completed.

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Nail inspector only got targeted once, but he had his lunch handed to him in the design

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QB run game against Lamar too.

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Listen, I mean, again, I would love to come up with something revelatory about why the

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bills lost this game, but they had a lot of their backups in and the Baltimore Ravens

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decided they were going to exploit those backups and they did it and they did it well and they

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deserve to win that game.

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Again, I'm not sure that Taryn Johnson, Matt Milano and Troll Bernard make up 25 points

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in that game, which means that there were some issues with the Buffalo Bills offense

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that we need to flip the script to because should we make it to January and should we

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somehow face this team again, it is not going to be the defense that has the recipe to stop

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this Baltimore offense.

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It's got to be the bills offense is going to carry them through the day.

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And there were some real issues on that side of the ball as well.

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Yeah, I agree completely.

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It's just it is just literally a matchup of Superman and Kryptonite in terms of this,

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the way that the Ravens offense is built and the way that the bills philosophically play

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defense, they are going to get beat.

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So it really I agree completely.

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It comes down to Josh Allen.

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It comes down to the same way that the bills have tried to manage the Patrick Mahomes lead

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chiefs is to just keep Patrick Mahomes off the field as much as possible, right?

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Control the grip game script.

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The way that the New York Giants shut down the high powered bills offense in Super Bowl.

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What was that?

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24 which one?

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The Giants bills.

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Wide right.

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Oh, wide right.

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That was 1990.

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Wasn't it?

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I don't remember.

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I don't remember.

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But I do know that Bill Belichick came into that game and his entire plan was to, you know,

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control the bills offense by not facing them.

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Essentially, take the air out of the ball.

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We're just going to run the ball and they're going to get four or five possessions.

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That's it.

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So like this bill's defense is not built to stop the Ravens.

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The offense has to agree.

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And I also hope that they get knocked off by somebody on their route on their road to

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the playoffs because again, I do not.

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I can imagine a game with this Ravens team in either Baltimore or Buffalo in January

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with a weather factor being an equally terrible, drubbing, even if Milano and Johnson are back.

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Absolutely.

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And when you factor in weather, you've got a factor in the Baltimore defense and their

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sustained ability to stop the run game.

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And I think that's a good opportunity to flip it over to the offensive side of the ball

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because there's a there's a lot to unpack there.

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I want to start with a positive though.

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And that is the maturity that I saw in Allen in this game.

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The minute Henry busted off that big run at the beginning of the game, I'm like, oh, damn,

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Josh is going to go try to score an 18 point touchdown just to just to recalibrate the offense.

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But Josh played within the scheme.

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He played within what the defense was giving him.

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It just wasn't a lot.

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And there were some heroics that he pulled out, but he never ultimately put the ball

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in danger through the air.

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Granted, he had that one fumble on that atrocious trick play that we will absolutely get into.

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And Brady has already admitted it was just a bad play call.

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But from word go, the bills seem to be unsettled.

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Not just on the field, but with the play sequencing, which is something that Brady is usually so

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good at the play sequencing and some of the personnel packages, especially right off in

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that first drive, were really, really confusing.

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JJ, where do you want to start?

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You want to start with the in ineffectiveness of the run game?

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Or do you want to talk about the pass game?

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Because there's some interesting nuggets to pull from both, I think.

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Yeah, let's talk about the bills pass game, because I think that's been the story of their

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success.

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You know, the run game, I think is good, but the run game has really just sort of been

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a foundation which sets up reasonable down in distance for the pass game to deliver through

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the first three weeks.

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And I think that the story here for me on the Ravens defense versus the bills offense

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pass game is just about pressure.

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Josh Allen in games that he's been the least successful.

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And this makes them, I mean, this is like an obvious thing.

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This is this is the NFL in general in the games where he conducts himself the least successfully.

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He looks like he's running for his life and under pressure constantly.

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That's what the Ravens did.

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And they did it in a very particular way, a way that I hope the Buffalo Bills are prepared

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to see again, because I can bet you that the Texans are looking at this tape and going

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to, you know, scheme up ways to twist, stunt and delay their blitzes on Josh Allen.

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So we saw the Ravens who have excellent linebackers and who have a very solid run front and pass

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rush front, basically just trying to confuse the assignments and protection of the line.

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And they rarely sent, you know, they rarely sent like full jailbreak blitzes, but they

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did send an extra fifth rusher often.

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And they made that person be a different, you know, character from time to time based

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on the front and based on the looks that the bills were giving them.

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It was occasionally defensive backs.

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Kyle Hamilton had an excellent game.

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It was occasionally a linebacker.

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Roquan Smith, I mean, is like probably he's an all pro.

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He's one of the best in the league.

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So they were actually sending more than four quite often.

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And when they did, it was from unexpected angles or unexpected timing.

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I think that was the other piece is they had studied the bills offense well enough to know

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how the routes develop.

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And they knew when Josh Allen likes to get the ball out.

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They knew it was quick, but they still did some stutters to allow the line to spread

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apart a little bit.

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So you know, Roquan Smith can close the distance from that like seven or eight yards away from

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Josh Allen in less than a second and a half if he has to, just by letting the center and

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the guard slip to their right to cover up a slide and then shoot in the gap.

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Sorry, could not find the unmute button there.

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JJ, it's a great breakdown from the Baltimore side of things.

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From the bill side of things, I, this was the first game where I felt like Brady was

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a first time full time play caller, I think for sure.

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We had seen some nice adjustments from him in the first three weeks of the season, but

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he did not have a lot of answers in the playbook.

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And you know, JJ, I'm just, I continue to be perplexed by the snap share that the Buffalo

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Bills are giving, distributing to their wide receiver room.

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Mack Hollins for the second time this season, out snapped Khalil Shakir by one snap.

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Like Khalil Shakir is very clearly their best wide receiver.

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He's arguably their best playmaker.

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There's not a world where Mack Hollins is great as Mack Hollins is as a leader should

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ever be out snapping Khalil Shakir.

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Add to that, Hollins also ran the same amount of routes that Shakir ran.

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So it's not even like they're keeping Hollins out there and run only situations.

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But JJ, his, his target percentage is low, but then his catch percentage is under 33

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percent as well.

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So the limited times they do target him, he's not bringing the ball in and he's not generating

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separation.

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Those are snaps in the second half to me that should have exclusively gone to Keon Coleman.

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I know Coleman had that drop in the early portions of the third, third quarter that they

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needed, but dude, those two sideline catches that he made with a defender draped all over

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him, that's the type of playmaking the bills needed.

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Not a lot of people were getting separation in that wide receiver core.

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And Coleman to me is Josh's most trusted asset when opposing defenses are guarding this wide

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receiver group very, very closely playing that sticky coverage that a lot of teams like

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to play on the Buffalo Bills.

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It remains a mystery to me what the bills coaching staff is seeing in this personnel

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grouping in the wide receiver room.

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Because to me, it's pretty clear you've got Shakir, then Coleman's your number two, then

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it should be Curtis Samuel who again, I think his snap share is limited because he's still

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recovering from that toe injury.

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But there is no reason for my money that Mack Hollins should be out there running as many

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routes as Khalil Shakir given his in an efficacy overall in the past game.

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When he is targeted, he's not catching things.

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He's out there basically is like an empty route most times like I just I don't understand

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it.

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I don't understand the personnel groupings.

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I need someone smarter than me to explain it to me why your most talented wide receiver

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and Shakir is not getting your largest snap share and why a guy like Coleman isn't taking

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snaps from Mack, Mack Hollins at this point.

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I'm here to tell you exactly why in the most logical way possible.

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Joe Brady is being a dumb, dumb dude.

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Okay, somebody else explained it.

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No, continue, please go ahead.

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I mean, I'm I'm a flabbergasted.

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You are I don't actually have an answer.

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It's crazy.

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Like I had to check the stats twice, but like it's it's wild.

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It doesn't make a lot of sense.

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The only thing I can guess, at least in the Coleman part of things is like he's got some

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rookie growing pains going on.

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The fact that he was benched for the first quarter against the Jaguar Jaguars is like,

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you know, for showing up late to meetings.

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That's kind of a that tells me that they're not going to tell you the story, but maybe

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he's having a hard transition to the league a little bit with the work ethic, not me,

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not work ethic.

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He's he's been reported as a hard worker, but maybe just the transition to the league

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of being a professional.

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And I think that can be difficult for first, you know, first year players.

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And that might be part of it.

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Because I mean, Mack Hollins is looked to as a big time leader in that room and on the

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on the team and like a character guy and a glue guy.

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So there's some of that.

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But and I think that actually is my that's my explanation.

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That's what I'm going to land on because we've seen this year for years.

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Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean, who's not really making those decisions, but Sean McDermott

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certainly and his coordinators, who he sets the tone for tend to overvalue leadership

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in the face of talent.

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That goes for, you know, choices that they made all the way back when Sean McDermott

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first arrived with who's who's the running back in the backfield when Devin Singletary

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was a rookie and out out snapping out earning Frank Gore almost every play, but yet they

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still line Frank Gore up on second and 10 and, you know, because there's the components

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of the of the player beyond talent and athleticism that they value that will get that that player

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on the field over somebody else.

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And I think that's probably the answer here, specifically with Mack Hollins.

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I don't know why Mack Hollins over Khalil Shakir because everything that we've heard

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is that Khalil Shakir is like, you know, celebrated in the building as a as a leader amongst

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the guys as you still young Claire.

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But that may be a body type issue as well.

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I I'm just gonna I got I've got to run these numbers by you because listen, your explanation

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is one that is rational.

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But the bills cannot continue to operate with this level of subjectivity when it comes to

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playing their young players.

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Here it is Mack Hollins total routes run on the season 82.

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Khalil Shakir 81 his target percentage remains low at 13%.

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But Keon Coleman's is only 14%.

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They've basically each been targeted 11 times on Josh's dropbacks.

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Here to me is lock and key.

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Why you put Coleman out there over Mack Hollins catch percentage catch percentage on those

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11 targets for Hollins the season 36% catch percentage for Khalil Shakir or I'm sorry

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for Keon Coleman 72.7% catch rate above expectation plus 23.8% for Coleman, which means he's doing

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what we expected him to do.

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He's catching stuff that really no one else can.

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Mack Hollins catch rate over its expectation minus 20.3%, which says he should at least

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based on separation based on position of defender based on route run, which is how they compile

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the algorithm for catch rate over expected.

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He should be catching at least 56% of his targets and he's not.

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He's not.

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That to me is the objective rational reason why Keon Coleman needs to be getting these

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targets, especially in situations like they were in in Baltimore where they needed some

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juice and they needed to complete a high degree of difficulty in their past game and they

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needed to execute at that degree of difficulty.

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Keon Coleman should be their guy at this point.

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Would you draft him for?

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Would you draft him for?

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Hey, you know, I feel at this point after having seen the way that this team has been

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run that you're we're just shouting into the void because that I mean this is this is how

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they do it right like, oh, my trusted veteran, my precious.

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And then you got those who could be helping you in critical moments.

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Just cooling his heels on the sideline because you don't believe in his character leadership

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yet.

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I'm using air quotes there.

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Yeah, so just wild.

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I get it.

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I just I get it.

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Everyone's going to eat, but like, let your hunters get to the table first.

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Yeah.

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And your hunters are Shakir, Cuncade, Samuel and Coleman.

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Let them get to the table first.

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Yeah.

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No, that's a astute observation, my friend.

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Do you want to do you want to talk at all about the running running game for the bills

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or not?

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It went as expected.

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I will tell you, I am not we saying the praises of Aaron Kroemer and this offensive line for

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three straight weeks.

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I am not ready to backtrack on that.

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But it is a little concerning that this was the first competent defensive line that offensive

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line faced and they could get no push in the run game and they couldn't protect Josh at

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all pressure rate on Josh not just from Blitz's 44.1 percent, his highest of the season by

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a country mile almost double what his average pressure had been heading into this game.

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It was a failure on a lot of different levels.

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They have another really big test coming up in Houston, which we'll talk about later on

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this week on the pod.

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And then they'll face granted a depleted but it's still a well coached New York Jets defensive

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line.

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I think we're going to find out a lot about how real this offensive line is JJ after this

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three game road stretch.

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And this team is four and two, three and three.

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And the offensive line is a big reason why they didn't come away with more.

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I do think it's fair game again after weeks this six to start to call into question the

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strategy around the roster build for the offensive line.

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But I'm not ready to do it yet because I've got an opportunity to kind of rebound against

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Houston.

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So we'll see.

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Yeah.

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And I think that calling the roster build into question on the offensive line, it can't

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be done really in a vacuum.

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It has to be done in terms of like what the options or like turn downs that they had were

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because I'll tell you after watching the Mitch Morris with the Jags against these bills.

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And then having seen Ryan Bates with the with the Bears a little bit.

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I I don't know that anybody that they kind of gave up on shipped away or let walk in

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free agency was a major loss.

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You know what I mean?

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Like it's the the line the bills have, I don't know, could be marked.

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That's fair.

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Could be markedly better with the pieces that they that they sent away.

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So you know, it could be better, you know, if they would have been, I'll entertain the

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argument that they could have invested in free agency on a different guard or center

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that they could have gone after kind of like big game hunting in the draft a little bit,

467
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:35,800
you know, higher in the rounds.

468
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,640
There's pieces there that they could have, you know, attended to.

469
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,680
But but yeah, if we're just talking about who they let walk and who they kept, I still

470
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,600
think they kept the right people.

471
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,920
That's a fair and sober analysis, right?

472
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,040
And again, I'm not there yet.

473
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,720
Let's wait and see what it looks like after they face the stretch.

474
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,800
It could very well be that this Ravens defensive line is the best line they're going to face

475
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,480
all season.

476
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,680
That's not outside of the realm of possibility.

477
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,400
So and again, at every level, it was just a bad matchup for the bills.

478
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:14,120
You said it, Crypt Superman versus Kryptonite, like everything offensively and defensively

479
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,800
that the Ravens like to do and the personnel matchups they have against the bills.

480
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,600
I mean, they are just so finely tuned to beat a roster and beat a scheme that the bills

481
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,600
roll out there.

482
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,840
Like it could just be one bad game, which is why I'm reserving judgment on the offensive

483
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:35,440
line because they put three near perfect performances granted against subpar competition, but three

484
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,040
near perfect games behind them in the first three weeks of the season.

485
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,400
So it jury is still out.

486
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,040
But again, they're operating with a lot of my credit, my my confidence, at least still

487
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,040
heading into Houston.

488
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,040
Yeah.

489
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,040
Yeah.

490
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,040
Yeah.

491
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,040
Same.

492
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,600
I'm not going to like, you know, I'm not going to write them off based on this one game.

493
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,040
And so it's going to be interesting to see where things go from here.

494
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,640
I have one note kind of before we put the Ravens game to bed.

495
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,640
I don't think it's an I don't think it's out of hand for Bill's mafia to be calling for

496
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:13,240
Tyler Bass to potentially be be shelled.

497
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,920
He's got he's got a 75% field goal made percentage, which is the lowest in his career.

498
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,760
And I know it's just through four games and the season is long.

499
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,280
They are putting a lot of faith in him working through it and it costs them money to cut

500
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,480
him so it's not like there's any financial incentive to like switching that up.

501
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,960
And I get the argument that that's, you know, there's no 100% field goal kicker sitting

502
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,200
on on the street right now.

503
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,360
It's likely you'd be getting same or worse, right?

504
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:44,600
But I will say, you know, I'm not I'm not completely opposed to like finding a undrafted

505
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:51,760
free agent who needs a chance in the league just for the sake of putting a kicker we know

506
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:57,680
is wildly inconsistent and has been for the past, you know, four games this season last

507
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,840
four games the last season on the shelf.

508
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,800
Yeah, I, you know, and this is it was interesting that they did not attend to this a little

509
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,400
bit more aggressively in the off season.

510
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,280
And I think a lot of the reason is is kind of the emotional attachment we talked about.

511
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,840
They have to some of their rostered leaders and they had jettisoned so many veterans this

512
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:26,360
off season doing so to Tyler Bass, who has spent a staple of this team all through the

513
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,320
McDermott era pretty much.

514
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,640
I can see emotionally why that would be hard.

515
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,160
I can see from a, from a team chemistry reason why they'd have issues with it, especially

516
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,600
the way the team rallied around him after that Kansas City game and the division around

517
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,480
and the way the fan base rallied around him.

518
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Pragmatically, you're probably right.

519
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,880
And I think the only reason they haven't done it more aggressively is the money.

520
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:55,200
I think they're in a cap situation right now where they do not want to eat $7 million in

521
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:01,040
dead cap space while they're also taking their Stefan Diggs medicine for a kicker, for a

522
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,520
kicker, for a kicker.

523
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,520
Right.

524
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,520
Exactly.

525
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,520
Exactly.

526
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,760
So we're a story worth keeping an eye on.

527
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,280
If he, listen, this Houston game, man, we're going to get into it later in the week.

528
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,120
Stefan Diggs revenge game, if it comes down to a Tyler Bass field goal and he misses a

529
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:25,400
lot of these simmering from Bill's mafia are going to reach a loud, loud alarm like level

530
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,400
for rolling boil.

531
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,120
Oh my God, man.

532
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,120
Crazy, crazy.

533
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,120
Yeah.

534
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:36,680
But yeah, no, I am ready to bury this rabies game in the ground and never revisit it again.

535
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,640
But JJ is always good emotionally unpacking this stuff with you.

536
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,080
Very therapeutic for me.

537
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,040
For all of you listening at home, like, share and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts,

538
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,040
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539
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,040
Sorry, America.

540
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,520
You're going to see what we actually look like Apple and Spotify.

541
00:32:52,520 --> 00:33:21,000
And as always, go bills.

542
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:49,200
Go bills.

