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Welcome back to the Buffalo bread podcast. This is episode seven, the bills and cardinals

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post game and the bills and dolphins pregame on a short week. It is Monday, September 9th,

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and the NFL season has officially kicked off for all but two teams. We're going to play

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tonight and that is the Jets and the 49ers. Dan, how are you feeling, my friend?

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We're covering as I feel after most bills games. Yesterday, JJ was an absolute roller

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coaster. That roller coaster ride we were on was the J A 17 MVP train that is starting

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very, very early. Those calls for Josh Allen to basically put this team on his back and

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will them to a playoff appearance this year. And we saw a glimpse of what that is going

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to look like this season. In JJ, I know we've had the back and forth and the conversation

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about the wear and tear of Josh's play style that ultimately takes on his body. But this

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feels like a season where Josh is not ready to hear that. This is a season where he is

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going to lead not only in the locker room with the example that he sets and his vocality

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now that we've heard from a lot of these players say he's expressing himself more in that way

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in the locker room, but also JJ, he is leading with the style of play that he wants to see

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others on the squad emulate. That is a physical backyard ball type of style. JJ yesterday

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was equal parts entertaining, magnetic and worrisome for a lot of reasons, which I think

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perfectly encapsulates where the bills fan base is here heading into the Miami game on

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a short week.

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Yeah, that's a great point, Dan. I think that Josh Allen's durability has been one of his

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best abilities. And it seems as if he's bound and determined to literally play through anything.

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We've seen him spend multiple weeks of a season with his throwing shoulder not quite right,

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his throwing elbow not quite right, and just still operating like he goes out there no

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matter what. And so I think I agree with you. It seems as if he's, you know, it's literally

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caution to the wind. I will play how I will play because it's, you know, come hell or

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by water, we're taking this team all the way. I love that. And I was actually incredibly

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buoyed for my, my hopes this season with a Josh Allen performance that included one

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complete, you know, idiotic sugar high Josh moment with the fumble that he lost. And the

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rest of the time he was poised and competitive and exactly the kind of player that, you

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know, people tune in for because he literally took the game over at the end of the first

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half.

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A little bit about the, let's talk a little bit about the offensive performance. I think

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that, you know, the thing I wrote in our kind of show notes as I was getting my thoughts

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out today was Josh Allen is going to Josh Allen. But if he Josh Allen's and doesn't Josh

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Allen, we're good. And I think that that's what we saw. We just saw a little bit of the

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secondary Josh Allen and a lot more Josh Allen. It was quite awesome. He targeted 10

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players and had nine and nine of them had at least one reception, which is a stat.

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I know you like to pull often with the bill's incredible win rate when Josh Allen in his

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career when he's targeted seven or more people. And so he was well above that. And again,

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the result on the field was good.

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It was good. It didn't just lead to a WJJ. It led to, I think, some stuff that we've

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wanted to see Josh do for a while. And I think a lot of it is going to be covered up by the

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fact that he played so physically yesterday, he ran the ball so much. The Red Zone offense

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yesterday, JJ was in fact, Josh Allen. But that masks, I think a lot of stuff that Josh

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has did in this game that we've want to see him do for a while. The stat, I was most excited

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to see released this morning when I got up. And yes, I get excited for the release of

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the stat packages on NFL next gen stats. JJ, it was Josh's time to throw 2.65 seconds.

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He was that is that's his fastest. Yeah. Yes, exactly. Fastest of all time. Well, not a

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ball in his career. Yeah. Right. So it's I mean, he's he's had a couple of games where

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he's in the Dorsey era where he was like right around 2.5. But he averaged last year time

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to throw JJ 2.8 seconds. That difference of those two tenths of a second means a lot when

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you're faith bearing down a pass rush, when your guys are trying to hit their routes with

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timing, he was trust more trustworthy of this wide receiver core and to throw into tight

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windows JJ, then we have seen him in a while. He was getting the bottom of his hands quickly

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when he wasn't choosing to keeping it. And JJ, he was accurate and he was accurate to

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all levels of the field. He finished with a 78% completion rating of pass rating of

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37.7. And JJ, this includes a couple of deep shots, a few that a couple of the connected

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most notably to Keon Coleman, a couple that missed. I'm sure he'd love to have that one

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to mark MVS back early in the third quarter. But for the most part, JJ, he was Josh was

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dominant passing the ball at all levels of the field. I think that I'm trying to I'm

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trying to tamp down a little bit because the Cardinals defense is pretty woefully terrible.

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And so as I'm, you know, as we're sitting here on Monday, the bills made it look easy

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to come back from a 17 to three deficit and really turn the game around. But the Cardinals

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defense was suspect coming in, they remain suspect throughout. And as soon as the bills

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had a chance to kind of stifle some of the momentum that the Cardinals had on offense,

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playing ball control and kind of keeping the ball out of Josh Allen's hands and get some

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possessions back for that offense. The whole thing kind of turned on its head. And as we

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expected, he Josh Allen was able to throw on that defense and they were able to run on

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that defense. And that's both exciting things. I think that one thing I really appreciated

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was the running game kind of picking up where it left off last season with James Cook kind

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of being a workhorse and 20 plus touches over 100 yards, if you count receiving yards in

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addition to his rushing yards. And he really is keeping Ty Johnson and Ray Davis off the

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field by his performance. And one thing that I think that, you know, it's funny, if you

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listen to like WGR or Buffalo Radio or even some of the media members around the Buffalo

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beat, they'll talk about how, you know, the bill's offense is too predictable. And first

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in 10, they always run, well, if you get seven, six or seven yards per carry on those first

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and 10 rushes, it's really not a problem to run every first and 10. If you're consistently

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able to produce and stay ahead of the sticks. And on top of that, if you do that and you

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become, you know, quote unquote, super predictable, then when you do a play action, seam ball

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to Dalton concave down the middle of the field, it's going to be way more effective. It's

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going to suck up way more attention than if you throw that pass 50% of the time on first

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down. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, the defense you mentioned how putrid the Arizona

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defenses and we said it on the pregame, this has the potential to be one of the worst defenses

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in the league this year, they just don't have the personnel to do what Gannon wants to do.

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But it was really interesting how much they're trying to cover up for themselves in coverage

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against an unknown, as far as efficacy, one wide receiver room. I mean, listen, the book

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on Josh is that you don't blitz Josh, but we saw timely blitzing last year really throw

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him off for long stretches at a time, though the cumulative stats at the end of the year

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and the aggregate stats looked good for Josh against the Blitz. But JJ, the Cardinals didn't

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come after him hardly at all. They only blitz chose to bring an extra pass rush around six

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of his dropbacks. A lot of that is because of the threat that Josh is to run. They were

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worried he was going to bust the pocket on those. But JJ Josh again, just did such a good

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job of taking what the defense was giving him 14 of 17, when he wasn't blitzed. And when

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the when the Cardinals were playing in that cover two shell that we see so many teams

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deploy against these bills, he was able to pick it apart. And then I think judiciously

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and maturely take his shots downfield. And those are two things that I think carry over

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against any defense because they are factors that are within Josh's control in his game

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that we haven't seen him fully develop. But the patients standing back in the pocket,

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making quick decisions, taking his shots when he knew he had a high success, a chance of

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success and not just throwing it because well, Gabe Davis is down there somewhere.

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Yeah, I think the difference between the Cardinals defense and the Miami defense is that the

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Miami defense does have I mean, even with the departure of Wilkins, they've got players

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on that front. And especially in the linebacker core, who are above average NFL starter NFL

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caliber starters. And I think that for the Cardinals, they have probably average to replacement

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level front seven players, if you count their defensive line and then their linebackers,

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especially with the injuries they've suffered early in the season. Whereas the Dolphins,

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even without Bradley Chubb, or I'm sorry, Nick, yeah, Bradley Chubb, and even with

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Jalen Phillips, probably not 100% coming off of his Achilles, they still have a relatively

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complete defensive front. And so the bills are going to have a harder time running on

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the dolphins. And in the back end, the dolphins bring back some of their talented defensive

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backs. And they have the, oh, geez, Jalen Ramsey. Who's the is it Ramsey? Yeah, the

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corner Ramsey, why does that not Davon Holland and the second dog, but like, I love it. I

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don't know why Jalen Ramsey's name sounded funny to me. So they've got the defensive

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backfield they have is solid, but they didn't they haven't really improved it that much

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from last year. And they can be vulnerable on the outside the numbers as we saw in the

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bills first game, you know, against the dolphins coming off of that 70 point win over the Broncos

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when everyone expected it to be this massive shootout. And then the dolphins didn't do

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just do so hot in the bills basically did whatever they wanted that day. It's going

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to be interesting because it's a better defense. I think it's a solid defense, but it's their

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third defensive coordinator in three years. There's a lot of question marks on to what

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they can present the jaguars on offense were kind of a mess. And gate and the dolphins

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gave up a lot of rushing yards to Travis ETN, even though they're able to kind of tighten

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down in the red zone on a lot of those drives. So I'm really curious to see with a better

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against a better red zone offense in the bills, if the dolphins defense is legit.

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Yeah. And I'm curious to see on the flip side of that, as we wrap up the Cardinals post

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game here, what the bills defense is going to look like against an offense that I would

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say in Miami is far more layered and professionalized at this at this point in its development

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than the Cardinals was. I mean, JJ, the Cardinals did exactly what we said they were going to

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do in the pregame. They ran the ball relentlessly. Kyler Murray, when he broke contain and zoomed

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out of the pocket, was an absolute problem for us. And we knew he was going to be. But

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there's some other things that we knew about Kyler Murray, too, that that came to fruition

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as well. His average yards per attempt in this game, 5.2 yards. And he was one of five on

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passes beyond the sticks, 10 yards or above. We called him a check down Charlie in the

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pregame. He proved it to be so, especially in those windy conditions and some of the

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uncertainty in his in his wide receiver core. I mean, dude, Marvin Harrison was targeted

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what four times in that game, Marvin Harrison, Jr. Wild. And he was running free a lot of

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times over over our safety. Yeah. I blame Kyler Murray for a lot of that. I think that

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a better I blame his height. Yeah. If if Josh Allen, if the quarterbacks were swapped in

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that game, kind of Marvin Harrison would have had like 100 plus yards on six or seven catches,

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you know, and probably a title year to. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, he did have that one drop.

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But listen, man, Jamar Chase dropped his first pass catch at his career to and we've seen

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how he's turned out pretty good, though he is still waiting for that contract from Cincinnati.

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But but this this Cardinals offense was as advertised in the bills after some nice second

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half adjustments, like stop. They stopped dropping Greg Rousseau into coverage, which

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they did on my rewatch of the game four times in the first half, your best pass rusher,

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your best run defender, dropping them into coverage. I think Babbage was getting a little

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bit too cute with some of this what he was trying to scheme up against Murray. And they

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just got back to basics in the second half and some aggressive play calling to they were

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able to get organic pressure, but they weren't afraid to blitz drop the blitz when they needed

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to in certain situations against Murray. And contrary to how he has played in his career

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against the Blitz, Murray really did struggle against it. So nice adjustments in the second

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half by the defense. But JJ, we can't move on to this Miami Dolphins preview without

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talking about the loss, albeit for an unknown length of time at this point of Taryn Johnson.

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As we speak today on this podcast, he has already been ruled out of the game against

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Miami. He left after about nine plays against Arizona. And we saw the the chaotic disorganization

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of this defense, as everyone was trying to figure out how they were going to pick up

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the pieces in the first half after Johnson was ruled out. Again, did a great job in the

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second half. But now we roll into Miami with I would say questionable safety play against

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a squad that is going to exploit the deep deep areas of the field way better than Kyler

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Murray and the Cardinals did. And also with our signature nickel back, not being able

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to not being able to go on Thursday, enter the Cam Lewis experience. So JJ, what are

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some of the things you saw from this bill's defense against the Cardinals? And how do

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we think it is going to translate against a much tougher offense in Miami?

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Yeah, I mean, everybody should be worried about, you know, Jalen Waddle and Tyreek

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Hill, Dave Devon, HN and Raheem Moster against this bill's defense, because I think that

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the the defense got younger. It didn't necessarily get markedly quicker. I think that Tural Bernard

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is athletic. I think during Williams is athletic. But Cam Lewis is not a burner. Ingram is

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not a burner. So some of the replacement players that they put in to mask Taron Johnson's loss

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are not fast enough to keep up in one on one coverage with either of the two, you know,

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top outside players and definitely not anybody that's coming out of the backfield. And so

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I think those are challenges. That's definitely Bobby Babbage has his work cut out for him

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this week. It's a known opponent. So you have some of that work is already done. They haven't

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changed coordinators on offense. They have the same quarterback, they have the same key

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skill players. So in a lot of ways, you're just refreshing a game plan. And then, you

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know, adding twists and wrinkles so that it's not it doesn't look like a previous use previously

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used game plan because the other opponent will figure that out pretty quickly and kill

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you. But I think that, you know, if you look back to the Cardinals game with the defense,

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it was, you know, Taron Johnson went out at like, like you'd mentioned nine plays in the

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Cardinals scored two touchdowns very shortly after he went down. But then the bill's adjustments

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resulted in the Cardinals not scoring another offensive touchdown the rest of the game,

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you know, for like two and a half quarters, they were pretty much shut down on offense

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or at least stuffed in the red zone if they got down there. And that I think showed the

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adjustment they made. And I think that the adjustment was Cam Lewis, who basically proved

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that he is not only the backup to the safety or possible starting safety, he is kind of

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a do everything DB he is, you know, the Swiss Army knife back there, because he was practicing

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in the safety room while they were, you know, in the preseason with all those injuries.

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But then the moment Taron Johnson goes down, he steps up to that nickel start starting

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position. And then they start doing some things where they were able to rotate, you know,

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three linebackers in on early downs. And then, you know, use Doran Williams, use Troll Bernard,

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use a third linebacker and then move, you know, move to three safeties on long and late downs.

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And the person who came in for that third safety position was actually Jomarcus Ingram,

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who's mostly filled in at outside corner in his career. So, you know, many players playing

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sort of out of their predominant position, but they've really made it work. I saw, I

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think Cam Lewis was the second best player on the field in this game. And it wasn't close.

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He was flying all over the ball. It took him probably a quarter to get his feet under him.

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But after that, he was the most impactful defender besides Greg Russo.

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Yeah. And I don't want to close the book on this bill's defensive effort is problematic

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as it was without talking about Russo. I think it's hard to argue this point now with Johnson

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being out and Milano being out and all due respect to Troll Bernard, but without the

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elder statesman Jordan Poir and Micah Hyde on the squad and with the injuries the defensive

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has suffered. This is Greg Russo's defense, even I think above and beyond over at Oliver

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and our specter, El Bernard being named captain, but this is Russo's defense. That defensive

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line JJ right now is the healthiest and arguably strongest unit on this defensive squad. And

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they're going to need to set the tone game in and game out as the secondary figures out

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who is going to play where what everyone's role is going to be, what their scheme fit

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is going to be over the next few weeks. I'm a huge nerd for for line play. I haven't seen

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him employ the kind of speed to power or bull rush or single arm stab moves that he used

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consistently in this game, but once or twice a season and he and I saw them all game long.

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And so I also rewatched and it was kind of amazing in the way that he the the left tackle

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for the Cardinals who's one of their best best and brightest young offensive linemen

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stand 6 6 310 pounds and Paris Campbell Jr. I believe. And on the one sack that Russo had

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coming off of the right defensive edge, he one arm stab that guy and pushed him back like

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four feet, like just completely erased his anchor, which you don't usually see with a

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starting caliber left tackle. And then just was already there. It was impossible to do

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anything at that point in the rep for the sack. The gate, the play was over. It was I was

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I was astounded at the kinds of things he was doing. And it reminded me of some of the pre

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season comments from the other defensive linemen that group finally understands how big and

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powerful he is. And he's not he's not afraid to use it without hesitation. And so that

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was outstanding. I mentioned Cam Lewis, I mentioned Marcus anger really stepping up.

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I do have, you know, a couple of down notes from this game against the Cardinals. I think

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that, you know, Dorian Williams really struggled being a QB spy against Kyler Murray, they

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assigned him that position, especially on early downs. And he often was late to react

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and then took took a bad angle. And so a lot of the scrambles were kind of fall at his

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feet that were successful. And then the other down note is Taylor rap is the person who

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hurt Taryn Johnson. It wasn't Taryn Johnson tackling somebody. It was Taylor rap coming

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in after Taryn Johnson had already started to make a tackle on this on the slot receiver

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and whacking his forearm with his helmet. And this is something we've talked about in

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the pod. I know a lot of people have noticed it. Taylor rap is responsible for another

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play where he injures a teammate with this this game yesterday. And he has four such

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plays in his two in his in one fully season and one game on the bills, which is really

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a problem. Like I don't know what you do to address that because of course, it's his

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aggressive play style that results in it. But he also almost clean clean Christian Benford's

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clock on a past to McBride on the Cardinals second touchdown drive, like he came flying

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in and didn't didn't need need that aggression on that play, because Christian Benford was

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already there and secure on the tackle. And it was it was worrying like he his his army

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his aiming and target points is really a problem.

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When he was out of position on more than a couple of plays to I mean, listen, Taylor

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rep has never been known as a technician. He is more of a blunt force instrument and a

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lot of the defenses that he's played on. I mean, you could argue that he is playing

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because of the where the safety room is at for Buffalo. He's also playing somewhat out

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of position, particularly for what the scheme is asking him to do. And I echo your points

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on Dorian Williams. I mean, listen, man, Kyler Murray was targeting Williams on all of those

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dinks and dunks across the middle of the field. And you've got to believe that whenever he

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is on the field and non obvious passing downs against Miami to is going to do the same thing.

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The middle of the field will be wide open, as long as Williams is on the field and and

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the bills went back to that time look like we talked about, try to cover up for that

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and obvious passing downs. But with the with how depleted the safety room is and this DB

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room is getting without Taryn Johnson, they are they are very quickly trying to find answers

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that they may not currently have on the roster for some of these scheme issues that they need

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to address to JJ. Listen, one other player I want to I want to end this on a positive

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note because this is Victory Monday. One other player I want to mention is Keon Coleman.

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He was not a separation guy averaged on on on his targets and average separation of 2.4

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yards of separation. The league average week week one was 2.6 yards. And by the end of

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last season 2023, that league average JJ was 3.3 yards. Half yard means something in this

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league. That's the difference between a DB reaching into your grasp and knocking the ball

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away versus not. But Keon dominant at the point of catch man dominant at the point of

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catch as advertised. And I love that after that long ball that he caught from Allen in

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the second half, they went right to him in the red zone to try to get him a tutty. I

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thought it was great reward the kid for for a job well done. But Keon I'm excited to see

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his development man. I think it's going to be really good and be over and what it's going

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to mean for this wide receiver room. I think it's obvious that that Brady is still figuring

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some stuff out. Khalil Shakir played almost almost less than half of the snaps yesterday

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against Arizona. It was right around like 53%. He is a playmaker and the only guy that

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seems to be able to get yards after the catch other than can Cade, who also had some questionable

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usage in the first half that they thankfully corrected in the second half. Brady is figuring

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some stuff out this past catcher room. I would like to see them not go crazy with it, especially

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when they're out there in 12 personnel. But more importantly, when they're in 11 personnel,

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which was when they started to get some things going yesterday. You've got to have concave

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is your is your tight end one. And then cool Shakir has to get more snapshot than Mack

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Collins love Mack Hollins love his leadership. Khalil Shakir is your playmaker in that wide

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receiver room pending the development of Keon Coleman, who had a great week one to Fermi.

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He had a great week one. I am. It was funny because the we were watching with friends

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and they when they threw straight back at him in the red zone after his big catch, the

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people the people the George and Kevin were watching with were like, why do they go right

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back? You know, like I was like, well, because he didn't get called for a very obvious push

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off on the previous play. So they figure if the refs aren't going to call it, they'll

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just keep feeding him because he's big and strong enough to do that all day. It doesn't

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matter if somebody's covering him, if he can just push them away and then catch the ball.

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And so yeah, I'm curious to see how that develops in his game too, because he's going to need

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to find some tools and some savvy route techniques to get separation at this level. Or he's just

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going to have to always be a high point specialist, which is possible. I mean, there's people

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who've made good money in the league doing just that. Yeah, absolutely. I would I would

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like to see him develop into what Mike Evans has become. I think that is the potential

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ceiling for Coleman. And listen, we don't want to over a week one. We don't want to

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read too much into it. It's essentially an extension of the preseason for a lot of teams.

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And I think based on some of the uncertainty we saw with personnel packages on offense

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yesterday in the first half versus the second half, I think you could say the same thing

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for the bills is they're figuring stuff out. But JJ, they ultimately figured out a win.

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They now head into a pivotal matchup early on in the season against a divisional opponent

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in the Miami Dolphins, an opponent that they've had a lot of success under under Sean McDermott

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and with Josh Allen. Everybody, everybody has seen that Josh Allen as your daddy means

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when it comes to the Miami Dolphins. But Josh is only going to be on the field for half

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of this game. The other half of the game, the defense is going to be on the field against

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a very potent Miami attack. So JJ, where do you want to start with this game preview?

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Do you want to start with the Dolphins? Oh, against the bills D or vice versa and flip

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it?

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Um, let's keep going with the kind of we ended with the bills defense in its efforts against

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the Cardinals. So yeah, let's end there or let's start there with the Dolphins preview.

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I think that, you know, for me, it's a question of what can Rassoul Douglas and Christian

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Benford do to limit Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle? That's that's step one, because I

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think that anyone who's watched the bills or listened to our podcast knows the whole

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key to stopping this Miami, this wildly effective Miami passing attack is just making sure that

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that the first read that to what wants to go to is not available the moment he wants

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to go to it, which is exactly two and a half seconds or less off the snap. And so if they

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can muddy that, that kind of short slant area of the field long enough to let the pass rush

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get some pressure or to at least let you know, the play develop a little bit where to it

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has to look to some other reads, they're going to do a nice job. The thing I worry about

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most that you've already pointed out though, when we're talking about the previous game

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is Dorian Williams, his area of responsibility and zone coverage is that slant zone area

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right behind the line of scrimmage. Yeah, JJ, and it's not just the wide receivers,

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you've got to worry about running that slant. Devon H N who did not have a great day running

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the ball yesterday, did show a little bit of juice in the past catching game and the

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dolphins have been clear in the preseason, they want to use their running backs more

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out of the backfield catching passes to add some wrinkles and some layers to this very

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potent Miami offensive attack. And I worry about Williams being susceptible to a play

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action leak where H N just leaks into the middle of the field. He's got three, four

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yards of separation around him and that dude plants and goes and he is all speed. He could

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take easily take a far five yard dump off and turn it into a four yard game. I don't

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and JJ, I don't have any good solutions for the bills. Because again, the well they would

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normally go to would be pulling in a third safety but given the health of that safety

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room right now to cover up in some of those obvious passing situations, you've got to

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trust that that Williams is going to at some point get it. Now for those bills fans that

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were hoping he was going to have a Terrell Bernard like emergence this season. We all

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need to remember that Bernard really didn't show his chops and have his coming out party

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till week four last year against the Miami Dolphins. So if anything remains consistent

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in the historic development of these Buffalo Bills linebackers, maybe Williams on a short

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week where he can flush the Sunday game against the Cardinals very quickly. Maybe he comes

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out rejuvenated and a new guy and is focused on the game plan and really at addressing

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the obvious weaknesses of this game. But beyond that, I don't know that the bills have great

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personnel answers for the scheme that they're going to need to run in order to stop some

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of this quick Miami Dolphins passing game. Now JJ, an area where I think they might have

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some success is stopping the Miami Dolphins run game. Williams is an excellent run defender

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add to that one of the best edge defenders against the run and Greg Rousseau. And the

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susceptibility that they had to the type of run scheme that the Cardinals were running

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is going to be a little bit different, I think, against these Miami Dolphins. This Miami Dolphins

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offensive line JJ went through a ton of turnover last season. And this is a fairly complex

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motion based run scheme that Miami is is putting out there game in and game out. I think two

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things are true about this Miami Dolphins offensive line. They're not very talented and they're

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definitely a downgrade from last season's ultimately putrid offensive line. That's

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saying something. But I think two is I think they're still trying to get their hooks into

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what this scheme is all about. And you saw it yesterday, the Jacksonville Jaguars, you

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know, it's surprising they're a top 10 defense in 2023 by a lot of metrics. But it's a team

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that you could run on. They were about hovered right around the league average as far as

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efficiency metrics went, dude, they shut down this Miami run game yesterday, they only allowed

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69 total yards on 23 rush attempts to this Miami Dolphins running back room. When you

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take into account all that speed that they have, the Jaguars figured out something in

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a hole in this Miami Dolphins offensive line that they could exploit. And I believe if

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it comes to winning the battle upfront in the run game, I think we could see the bills

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have a little bit more success in stopping the run against Miami than they did against

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Arizona. Yeah, I think you're right. Just looking at the offensive line that they did

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not they did not measurably improve their offensive line. In fact, losing Robert Hunt

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to free agency and passing on resigning their their center. I think those two pieces, they

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took a step back and both those two positions. And then Liam, Liam Weikenberg is a little

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bit banged up. So he may not start as one of them. He's the right guard currently. Toronto

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Armstead, who we all know hasn't had a is has been an excellent talent that hasn't had

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a healthy season in the past four years. Is a question I think that I mean, he's healthy

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right now, but we'll see. So yeah, I think that it's it's a possibility that bills have

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a chance to shut down the run. I think especially in the second half against the Cardinals,

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the bills really showed a much better understanding of the run fits and you know how to flow to

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the ball. In particular, I think that that was largely, you know, due to the expert,

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you know, expertise of Cam Lewis, because he I think early after Toronto Johnson went

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out, Cam Lewis was was struggling a little bit. Once it clicked for him, the the run

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game was no long, you know, James Conner was no longer going anywhere. And so I think

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there's possibilities that especially if they roll out the same lineup and assignments

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this week against the the dolphins that he'll start on a much hotter note in terms of finding

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his landmarks and making sure that he's turning things inside where he's supposed to and shooting

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gaps where he's supposed to, which was really what I saw in the second half that made me

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notice him a lot more.

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Yeah, absolutely, man. I mean, this is an opponent. Listen, we know we've done a ton

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of dolphins pre games on this podcast over the last few years. There's not much left

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to say that we haven't already said this is a Miami Dolphins offense that's going to run

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motion there in motion and 90% of their snaps yesterday, which is the fourth highest motion

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rate that they have run under Mike McDaniel. They want to use Devon HN in the past game

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as much as the run game. Dude had 76 yards receiving and caught all seven targets that

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they sent his way yesterday. That that that is a wrinkle that scares me more, I would

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argue than Tyree kill because at this point, you know, Tyree can score from 80 yards from

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anywhere on the field, right? Like it's just one of those things he's going to get one.

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And as a Bill's fan, I've learned to accept that he's just going to get one, right? But

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HN, especially what we saw from this Bill's defense yesterday and their inability to get

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off the field on third down, that scares me heading into Thursday more than anything else.

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And listen, you got to close down those anticipatory windows with two up. He the magic number,

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I think the number that dominates probably every single defensive coordinators game planning

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when they play Miami is 2.5 seconds. Can you get to it a hang on to the ball for longer

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than 2.5 seconds last season, his time to throw 2.36 seconds, a full a full two tenths

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of a second better than the next person. So they're trying to cover up for this offensive

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line, but speed and quick reads are built into this. Can you get him to hang on to the

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ball and close down some of those initial windows? And that to me, JJ is where HN becomes

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a really interesting weapon for them. And it's a I've criticized Mike McDaniel for not

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making a ton of adjustments with this offense over the past couple of seasons. Like when

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you see it get shut down, he just rolls the same thing out there. HN is a pass catcher,

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really does change the calculus you need to do when you come and play this Miami, Miami

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Dolphins team now. So credit to the way they're scheming up HN as a complete running back

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weapon here. That's the piece I'm going to keep an eye on on Thursday the most.

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And that I think is valid. And I think HN such is such a weapon. I will say I do like

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the bills. I like the bills defensive backs for shutting down wide risky right or I'm

395
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sorry, running back wide, you know, screens and kind of toss outs and those sorts of things

396
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because they do have a good sense since they play so much zone, they usually have their

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eyes in the backfield and I and we saw James Connor and a couple other targets, you know,

398
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and like wide receiver tunnel screen situations against the Cardinals. We saw the bills able

399
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to click and close really well, specifically, Jomarcus Angerum and Gam Lewis on a couple

400
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of plays. Even Taylor Rap had one good rep where he like read it, got it, got there and

401
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,520
held them to a two or three yard gain. And so I think that that's an opportunity for

402
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the bills that I don't know, you know, I haven't watched enough of the Jacksonville Jaguars

403
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,880
to have a sense of how good they are at that. I think it's a thing that the bills are very

404
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,440
good at. The thing the bills are not very good at is traditional screens with linemen

405
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on the move. And, you know, the defensive line pushing too far into the backfield and

406
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getting too hungry with the rush. That I think is a real chance. I mean, remember that all

407
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the Chan Galey offenses against the bills and the constant screen game. It was Oh, yeah,

408
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,040
it was a Achilles heel and it remains to be so even in this iteration with the coaches

409
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:21,880
and players we have now. The traditional screen game is a real problem. I but I don't see

410
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those kind of on an island screens or quick throwouts as much of a risk as they would

411
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,040
be for a lot of other NFL teams who play more man who are caught with their backs to that

412
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:38,720
play. Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. It's it's going to be interesting to see. And then again,

413
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I'm not expecting three sacks every game from Greg Rousseau. But our we had a von Miller

414
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citing yesterday as well. So are they going to be able to not only close down those throwing

415
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,560
lanes for two? But are they actually going to be able to get home? The Jaguars did yesterday.

416
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They sacked two with three times, despite only recording a pressure rate of about 17%.

417
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:06,120
Dude, these numbers are ridiculous. Whenever I look at Miami stat line, it's unbelievable

418
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,040
how quick they get the ball out. But like it's becoming a it's becoming an offense of

419
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,600
binaries for me. They're either getting the ball out super quick or to a can't find a

420
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:21,040
way to throw and he's taking a sack or he's getting pressures wild to me. This offense

421
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,640
is crazy. Oh my God, I can't wait to watch film. I can't wait to watch the film of the

422
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:30,360
Jags game. It's just it's nuts. But but again, the defensive line is going to be important

423
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,800
in setting the tone not just against the run, but also getting home on to getting him on

424
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:41,000
the ground. I think means more than just putting pressure on him because of how quickly he

425
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:46,480
gets out the ball. So so yeah, we'll see anything else is we as we wrap up here on

426
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,480
this side of the ball, are you ready to flip it over to the the bill's offense? No, I think

427
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,560
that that's that's all we have to say about that. Let's let's talk Josh Allen and his

428
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:01,880
army against this Dolphins defense. Where do you want to start? Which unit?

429
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:07,240
I think it's got to start. I think we got to start with the bills and in particular,

430
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:12,320
I want to start with the past catchers because it's going to matter. This game JJ less than

431
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,960
the bills, it feels like you're just going to have to win a bunch of shootouts this season

432
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,160
until they can figure out some things on defense. My larger fears that they don't figure out

433
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,040
anything on defense in this year is going to look a lot like what we saw on Sunday,

434
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:31,720
which was 34 28. So if they're going to win, they're going to absolutely need to run the

435
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:37,240
ball, control the clock, keep to a and this very potent offense off the field, which they

436
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:44,280
have had a lot of success doing. And this is not a good Miami Dolphins defensive line.

437
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,840
They finished middle middle of the pack and most efficiency stats last year and we're

438
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:55,920
very susceptible to the run. And they have downgraded. Thank God Christian Wilkins has

439
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,720
moved on have fun in Las Vegas, my friend, we do not miss you. Andrew Van Ginkel has

440
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:06,160
moved on. This is a patchwork unit of a lot of low cost veterans that have some great

441
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:12,080
resumes, but you could argue are kind of over the over maybe their their peak playing days.

442
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,400
The bills need to come out, control time of possession. And then I want to see what these

443
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,680
past catchers can do when they are called upon again, didn't love the snap share some

444
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,760
of the personnel group is in the first half. I want to see more concaited in this game

445
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:31,520
man. The dolphins have traditionally struggled and been in the lower tier of teams when defending

446
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,960
opposing teams tight ends. We've got two really good ones. I want to see Dalton can

447
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:42,480
Kate eat this game. I'm losing patience with how they're scheming him up, how they're

448
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:48,600
putting him him out there giving him basically one half of real meaningful snaps yesterday.

449
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,720
Yesterday, I want to see Kate out there for 70% of the snaps all due respect to Dawson

450
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:59,520
Knox. He should be tight end one in the 11 personnel. And when they're in 12, unless

451
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,960
Shakira is on the field, he should be their number one go to option.

452
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,400
Yeah, I would agree with that. I think that it's but it does track for me with all the

453
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:14,720
pre all the preseason conversations that the bills, offensive players had about, you know,

454
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:19,600
everybody's punching a bus ticket, everybody eats, you know, Jeff's there. Josh Allen's

455
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:26,320
the the chef and they're all you know, just just at the restaurant and it's it's it tracks

456
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,280
with all of that. But I agree with you. I think don't concede it's it seems like such

457
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,360
a waste to not use somebody so talented at finding soft spots in the zone. Someone who's

458
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,600
reportedly had a an even better rapport with Josh Allen spending so much time with him

459
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:46,800
in the offseason. And so but here's here's my worry, Dan, to your to your wishes and

460
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:52,600
hopes. It may be the thing that we've talked about or expected in all of our offseason

461
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:58,920
conversations that like this this week against the Cardinals wasn't a concaid game. Maybe

462
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,560
this week against the Dolphins is a concaid game. And then maybe the following week he

463
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:09,280
has two targets, you know, two receptions for 46 yards, while somebody else has, you know,

464
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,720
100, 100 yards like a Shakira game or a Curtis Samuel game. So they may rotate it in that

465
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:22,320
way because we know how, you know, diligent Joe Brady is at identifying the target, you

466
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,480
know, the weak point in the defense and attacking it incessantly until they find a way to stop

467
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,480
something.

468
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Yeah, I mean, man, we talked about it in that Cardinals pregame, though. I mean, the Cardinals

469
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:40,600
came in ranked 29th in DV away when stopping opposing teams tight ends in the past game.

470
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:46,200
That's bad. Like if if the Cardinals are not adult and concaid game, like what is adult

471
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:52,080
and concaid game look like to Brady, you know what I mean? But I do think to our point earlier,

472
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,680
they are still trying to figure it out in real game speed, you know what I mean? So like

473
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,040
what this offense was yesterday is not what is what it's going to look like at the end

474
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,040
of the season.

475
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:10,000
Because Shakira and concaid and Cook are the three best playmakers on that team. And this

476
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,440
is a very good, very smart bills coaching staff. They're eventually going to figure

477
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:20,200
out ways, I think, to game plan those guys in while also keeping opposing defenses off

478
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,920
balance with the everybody eats mantra that they've adopted in that past catching room.

479
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,360
I think they're going to have it both ways. And you know, we've got to remember to the

480
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:36,960
learning curve for tight ends in this league is very, very steep. Kyle Pitts scored a touchdown

481
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:42,920
yesterday, fantasy managers rejoice, but we've waited years, years for that moment with Kyle

482
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,000
Pitts. I don't think it's going to be the same with concaid. But I do think a little

483
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,840
bit of patience to your point is warranted because a learning curve for young tight ends

484
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:57,200
in this league is so, so steep. And listen, everyone is going to talk about the the key

485
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:03,840
on Coleman versus Xavier worthy debate. But there is another wide receiver debate that

486
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:09,080
I believe we could we could start with regard to the chiefs and the bills and that is Sky

487
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:14,160
Moore versus Khalil Shakir, because those two, I think in the draft year, they both came

488
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,960
out in the same year, were the most frequently bundled together. Who would you rather have

489
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:24,360
Sky Moore or Khalil Shakir, more ended up going way, way earlier on the draft than Shakir

490
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,960
did. And Shakir took this like really mysterious drop throughout the process. He was predicted

491
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,960
very early on to go as high as the late second round, but ultimately was a steal for the

492
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:40,720
bills where they got him. Listen, the jury is still out on Coleman versus worthy. But

493
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:45,360
I think definitively the bills got the better end of the Shakir versus Sky Moore debate.

494
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,640
I would agree with that. And I think that there's there's even more to see. I mean,

495
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:55,560
he surfed on on a defensive lineman's body into the end zone, which is like, it's crazy

496
00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,080
pure effort. It was amazing. Yeah, I don't know. I don't like that's the kind of thing

497
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,920
it's like, you know, just the thought of the level of athleticism these guys have, and

498
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,360
then the ability and wherewithal to like, think your way through moving yourself toward

499
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:14,240
the goal line in that particular situation and knowing that you haven't yet touched the

500
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:19,200
ground and that you can just kind of jam your feet in at the heel and shove yourself toward

501
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:24,680
the goal line and slide over that dude was, it was just impressive. I want to, you know,

502
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,240
I always want to give a shout out to the to the big guys. Deon Dawkins on that play that

503
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:35,160
Shakir scored by sliding over the defender into the goal line. Totally pancake somebody,

504
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,600
which I really appreciate it too. He just walked up and pushed a linebacker onto his

505
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,880
back with his hands. Big man, Tim.

506
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,920
Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. Well, and that's something actually I want to this

507
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,960
is something I want to this is a good segue. This is something I want to see against the

508
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:55,240
dolphins because I think the bill's offensive line is superior to the dolphins defensive

509
00:45:55,240 --> 00:46:00,480
line. This should be that should be a matchup that the bills can win. I want to see them

510
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:08,120
win it. And I don't want to see weird nonsense, you know, Pat, you know, concentration penalty

511
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,160
laps lapses of concentration penalties like they had against the Cardinals with Spencer

512
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:18,520
Brown, Deon Dawkins, Osiris Torrance, false starts, random, you know, like face masks

513
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,240
while on offense, all that stuff, they need to get that cleaned up.

514
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:28,400
Yeah, absolutely. It was a sloppy game from the offensive line. Stuff that I feel like

515
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:33,720
is more bills two years ago than it was last season when they had, again, the best offensive

516
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:39,640
line play I've seen them have in the McDermott era. If they can clean that up and they can

517
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,560
stop putting themselves in these these atrocious third down through down positions. JJ, at

518
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,840
one point in the game yesterday, they were three for eight in the early in the early

519
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,200
minutes of the fourth quarter, three for eight on third down conversions with average yards

520
00:46:53,200 --> 00:47:00,280
to go of 10.7 yards. Terrible. I mean, and it's terrible. Nothing to do with Josh taking

521
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:05,000
sacks only got sacked twice in that game. It was had everything to do with the silly

522
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,480
offensive line penalties that this team was drawing. Got to clean that up. And again,

523
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:14,360
I agree with you, they should dominate against this Miami Dolphins defensive line and that

524
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:20,920
linebacker unit. JJ, before we go to prediction, sure to go wrong, which much to our surprise,

525
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:26,240
we were not too wrong this week on the Cardinals game. It would be remiss if we didn't mention

526
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:31,760
that we are about to go through game one of what is going to be many, many games this

527
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:40,160
season where the bills are facing former former familiar faces in new places. Jordan Poyer,

528
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,320
we are going to be going up against Jordan Poyer on Thursday, long time bill, long time

529
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,720
captain of this team. We have said it ad nauseam, owe him everything for helping McDermott set

530
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:55,200
the culture he wanted to with the squad and with this defense. I am going to be rooting

531
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,800
for Jordan Poyer 15 games out of the year this season. JJ, this will not be one of them.

532
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,360
What are your feelings and one of your thoughts on the bills going up against a beloved former

533
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:11,120
bill? I think that Jordan Poyer, given the way he plays the game with the intensity and

534
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:16,960
how savvy he is, this isn't the same as going against other former players where you could

535
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:22,000
use the familiarity against them. I don't think that that's on the cards. I think that

536
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,680
they have to be very careful throwing into Jordan Poyer's coverage because he's going

537
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,680
to have a better sense of how that ball comes off Josh Allen's hand, what it looks like,

538
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:38,480
trying to jump where to be than anybody else probably because he saw it in practice every

539
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,640
day. He knows the inside and outside of the game plans that the bills like to use. He

540
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,480
was just with the team for many years, but then just recently with them last year on

541
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:53,560
long run. I expect him to come out with extra juice as well because it's always just more

542
00:48:53,560 --> 00:49:00,440
fun to compete against these guys that you know. Again, I wish him the best every other

543
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:05,120
game in this game. I want him to look old and slow and take bad angles and maybe get

544
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,360
trucked by Josh Allen in the open field. Just saying.

545
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,080
That's a perfect segue into prediction. Sure to go wrong, JJ, because I've got Poyer and

546
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:18,280
one of our props for this week. All right, so let's hit it. Let's do a quick recap here.

547
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:24,320
JJ, if you would please run us through our predictions for the Cardinals. How close did

548
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,760
we come to being actually right?

549
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:32,280
This is like uncharted territory for us to get predictions this close. So the final

550
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:37,080
score really good. We were really good. The final score of the actual game was 34-28.

551
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:43,960
Of course, Bill's win by six points. They cover the spread. They know they matched the

552
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,480
spread. No, they missed a point.

553
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:52,160
No, it was six and a half. Okay, six and a half. They missed the spread. They don't

554
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:58,560
miss a spread, but they hit the over on total points, which was set at 47. I had guessed

555
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:03,320
that the Bills would win 34-24. So I had the Bill score right and you had guessed the Bills

556
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,480
would win 31-28. So you had the Cardinals score right.

557
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,120
Unreal. Uncanny. Yeah.

558
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,440
And then we had two Josh Allen props. Woody Throw pick. We both said he would not.

559
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,440
Yes.

560
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,480
Even though he did have that one fumble, but no picks. Breaks the streak of the past couple

561
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:25,840
of opening weeks. And then we both had the under for Josh throwing 300 yards in the opening

562
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,480
week. Hasn't done it for a really, really long time. We both took the under because

563
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,080
we didn't feel like hopefully the Bills would need it. And if they did need it, something

564
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,600
had gone horribly wrong. Exactly.

565
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,800
And he went, stuff still went horribly wrong, but Josh didn't need to throw the ball that

566
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,400
much. So yeah. Yeah.

567
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,840
Yeah. Overall, good stuff.

568
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,880
We were good. It's almost like we know our stuff. I don't know.

569
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,880
It's crazy. It's like we're getting good at this after all this time. All right. So now

570
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,720
that we have thrown flowers at our feet.

571
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:01,000
Properly fluffed ourselves up for what is inevitably a terrible take in this sense.

572
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,360
This is a short week. Yeah. And it's going to be so bad. All right. Let's do it. Final

573
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,320
score predictions, JJ. What do you got?

574
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,880
I think it's another high scoring affair because I think the Bills defense is still figuring

575
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,040
things out and missing. Taran Johnson is going to be a problem. They're also missing. Dwayne

576
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:23,440
Smoot. So we're going to see Casey Tull, who's less of an athlete on the outside. I think

577
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:29,800
that the Bills, I do think the Bills win, but I think it's 35 31 Bills.

578
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:37,080
Damn. That's a really high score you got going on. As of right now, I'm trying to pull up

579
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:46,400
the spread for this game. You know, JJ Thursday games are always weird, right? Because it's

580
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:53,360
a short week, not a lot of not a lot of playing time. Injuries haven't fully healed. You don't

581
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:58,520
get full practice time in. So here's where we're at over under for this game, 50 total

582
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:03,600
points. And then the dolphins are two and a half point favorites, which is basically

583
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:09,400
standard home field advantage these days in the betting world. So if this was a neutral

584
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:15,560
field, this game would be a coin flip. I'm all right. I'm with you. I think the Bills

585
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:21,200
win, but I think it's a lower scoring affair than a lot of people will believe it to be

586
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,560
because I just don't know that this dolphins running game is right. I don't know this offensive

587
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:31,440
line is figure stuff out. And we all lose sight of the fact of how much this team relies

588
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,760
on the run and a Shanahan style offense. We lose sight of that fact because of all the

589
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:47,520
deep balls they throw. I'm going to say Bills 24, dolphins 21. And I'm going to take the

590
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,760
under in this game because Thursday night games are notorious for hitting the under

591
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,760
because of the short turnaround in the short week. So that's where I am at, sir.

592
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:56,760
All right.

593
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:57,920
Did you document that?

594
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:04,440
I did not, but I will make sure to listen to our podcast like everyone else should and

595
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,280
get it into our running show notes.

596
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:13,240
Excellent. All right. Now here's what I got for you. Jordan Poyer over under half a sack

597
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:15,240
on Josh Allen. Yes.

598
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:20,280
Oh, I could see. Oh, I could see any defensive coordinator in the world doing a safety blitz.

599
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:26,720
Yep. And Anthony, Anthony Weaver plays a little bit more man comes from that Mike McDonald

600
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:29,560
tree. I could see it. Right. Right. It's a good one. It's a juicy one.

601
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,600
It is a really good one. So you said plus, plus minus half of a sack.

602
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:34,600
Yep. Okay.

603
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,280
Okay. Half a sack. So will he get a sack or won't he on Josh?

604
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:42,800
I'm going to take the under. And I think that Josh Allen will never let him live it down

605
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,160
because I actually think he's going to come on a blitz. I think Josh Allen's going to

606
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,840
shake him though.

607
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:54,440
I think he's going to get there. I think JP is going to get there. I think he wants to

608
00:53:54,440 --> 00:54:00,080
get there. I think he is literally watching film right now and he's begging Anthony Weaver

609
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,840
to let him come off the edge on a blitz begging for it. So yeah.

610
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,280
So I'm going to I'm going to take the over and I think Jordan Poyer and what is hopefully

611
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,200
his only highlight of the game gets a sack on Josh Allen.

612
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,200
Go ahead.

613
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,000
Yeah, I've got I've got a prop for you.

614
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,000
Yep.

615
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:22,840
Keon Coleman, plus or minus half a touchdown. Does he does he get his touchdown his first

616
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,960
rookie season touchdown in this game?

617
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,760
I don't think so. I think I think when he's in the red zone, I think they're going to

618
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:34,800
stick Ramsay on him, depending on how healthy Ramsay is. And Ramsay is it for whatever you

619
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:41,360
want to say about how the dude runs his mouth. Like he is a very man corner. He's a really

620
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:46,800
good man corner and Coleman, despite his athletic gifts, he's just not he's just not ready for

621
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,720
that. So I'm going to say under because I just don't think it happens unless it's on

622
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:58,280
a busted coverage or or an absolute deep bomb down the field. But Coleman is just not there

623
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,360
with a separation or his his physicality yet.

624
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,920
I'm saying over, I believe in the Rook. Let's do this.

625
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,680
Let's do this thing. All right, I got one more for you. And this is inspired by the

626
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:15,720
Jacksonville Jaguars relative success here against the Miami Dolphins in the rush game.

627
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:23,520
The Miami Dolphins, JJ right now are sitting at 100.5 yards on draft Kings for total amount

628
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:30,400
of rush yards expected against the Buffalo Bills on Thursday. JJ, are you taking the

629
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:35,800
over or the under on that line? Do the bills successfully hold the Miami Dolphins to under

630
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,000
100 rushing yards?

631
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:45,160
Yes. I think they hold them to under 100 rushing yards because this is my reasoning.

632
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:50,200
I believe that the Bills have it in their capacity to get up on this team early. And

633
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:55,040
so to a May throw for like 400 yards. But I think it's because the Bills are going to

634
00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:00,960
try to get them off of a paced attack and get a score to a head. Because again, I'm

635
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:06,520
the person who's believing this is going to get into the 30s, even with the curse of Thursday

636
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:12,000
night football. And so I think that the Bills get ahead on the scoreboard a little bit and

637
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:17,760
force the Dolphins to try to play with a little bit more urgency, which means more passing.

638
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,960
I'm going to take the under two, but it's not based on anything scheme wise. It's all

639
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:28,400
vibes. I just I don't like I just I don't like what I saw from this Miami Dolphins rush

640
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:34,480
game that was so potent last year. They were at home in favorable conditions against a

641
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,440
very gettable opponent in the Jacksonville Jaguars. And they just couldn't get anything

642
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:46,360
going, anything going in the Bills defensive line. Again, questions overall about how this

643
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,640
team is going to defend their own long long term this season. But this just feels like

644
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:56,280
a really good matchup with this Bills defensive line against this revamped Miami Dolphins offensive

645
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,280
line. And the vibes just feel weird in this running back room. I don't Jeff Wilson, Jr.

646
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:07,560
had a sighting yesterday. He had more touches than either a most or more. It was it. Yeah,

647
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,120
he had more touches than most are most are it was used way less, which is curious to

648
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:16,280
me. Yeah. And if anyone's if anyone's like a long term listener of the pod, you know

649
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:21,440
this well in the absence of data or analytics, sometimes it's vibes.

650
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,600
It is. It's it was it's a lot of vibes on this podcast, which is why these things always

651
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,800
go wrong. But yeah, man, I'm going to take the under two. And I just hope we're right.

652
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,080
And I hope we're looking at a Bills win to an oh, to start the season with all this

653
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,520
kind of rest. Yeah, yes, a little bit of a back for week three.

654
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:45,320
Yeah, yes, we could use this. We could use this. But we'll see. We'll see. All right,

655
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:51,360
JJ. Quick show note here for everybody listening. We have teased the idea of YouTube on this

656
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,840
pod a couple of times in the show closing. We want to let everybody low know all of our

657
00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:00,400
listeners give you a heads up that we are going to be rolling out a YouTube channel

658
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:07,920
for Buffalo bread. We are going to kick things off very, I think appropriately with the Kansas

659
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:14,560
City Chiefs return to Buffalo this regular season. So from the Kansas City Chiefs game

660
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:20,200
through the end, we are going to be rolling out this podcast on Spotify on Apple, but

661
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:26,600
also as a video podcast on YouTube is another way for you to enjoy what me and JJ try to

662
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,640
bring to the table every week for you all. So very excited to announce that I need to

663
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,640
lose 30 pounds before we do this, which is really why we're not rolling it out now.

664
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,800
You still you still I got to get better for the camera.

665
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,760
Yeah, you still the thunder. I was going to say I have to lose the 10 pounds that the

666
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:46,600
camera is going to add. And then everyone's going to be able to enjoy my like overacting,

667
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:52,080
you know, Jim from the office responses to your takes throughout the pod.

668
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,680
I think I think I'm just going to I'm going to invest in a really good AI filter for myself,

669
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:01,080
right? This is this is what we're going to do. It's going to take a weight off for me.

670
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:06,280
Absolutely. All right, so for everybody listening at home, like share and subscribe wherever

671
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,800
you get your podcast, YouTube becoming Apple and Spotify. And as always, go bills, go

672
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:30,320
bills.

