1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,460 Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread Podcast. 2 00:00:07,460 --> 00:00:10,560 We are in preseason week three. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:16,000 This is our post game analysis for the Buffalo Bills and Carolina Panthers, who played an 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,960 offensive slug fest that the Bills sadly lost. 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,960 But none of the Bills starters played in the game. 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,080 We take that for what it's worth. 7 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:25,680 Dan, where is your head at? 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,760 We've got two weeks to go till the season starts. 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,800 I would like for it to be two weeks from now is where my head is at. 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:38,560 But I'm glad that we have seen the Bills play their full preseason slate at this point. 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:44,320 Listen, preseason, there is not much to take away from it with regard to quality of starters 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,560 because let's be real starters aren't going to play a lot in the preseason. 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,280 Even this year with the Bills on both the offensive and defensive side of the ball, switching 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,680 so many different players into the starting rotation, we weren't going to see a lot. 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,960 No one's putting a lot on film in the preseason. 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,920 But what I took away from this preseason, I think more than anything else was I had 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,080 a vested interest, JJ, in the young guys. 18 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,760 And it's not just our draft picks. 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:16,040 It's the Joe Andreessen's, the Frank Gore Jr.'s, like some of these young UDFAs that 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:22,160 the Bills brought in, really seeing for me, I think, in a new light, how they plan on 21 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:27,680 developing their youth pipeline and their talent pipeline as the Josh Allen contract 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,160 becomes a bigger and bigger cap hit every single season. 23 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:37,600 We're so used to our high floor veteran laden rosters for Buffalo that honestly, the 53 24 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,280 Man really wasn't much of a competition for some of these young guys. 25 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,120 This season I found it really refreshing at times concerning, given the variants of play, 26 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,560 but ultimately really cool to see some of these young guys stand out and show out on 27 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:51,560 a game to game basis. 28 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:52,560 Yeah, I agree. 29 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,000 I think that the biggest thing, this is the real measure of whether or not a year over 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,280 year contender status, which is something that Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott both 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,680 touted when they entered the Bills in 2017, is we're about building a team that's going 32 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,760 to be in the hunt every single year for a championship. 33 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,240 That requires evolution. 34 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:18,960 That requires a team to really establish draft and develop and resign as a mantra and making 35 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:24,080 sure that they keep talented players, that they develop players beyond their draft status. 36 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:30,360 As you mentioned with UDFAs, they really have to get those players to play outside and above 37 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:36,880 their weight class in terms of the investment of resources, whether that's draft pick or 38 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,680 free agency dollars. 39 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,520 Really that's the measure of whether or not they're able to build this as a year over 40 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:47,200 year contender is can they get more for less of an investment every year. 41 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,120 And so far, I'm also pleased with that. 42 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:54,720 I think that in particular, some of the defensive pieces and the moneyball approach to wide 43 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,560 receiver both seem promising to me. 44 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,440 I have some concerns, I'm sure we'll talk about and get into in terms of certain position 45 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:03,440 groups. 46 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,400 But all in all, I think that it is a good, it's a good time to be a Bills fan anytime 47 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,320 Josh Allen is slinging it. 48 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,000 And it's an interest, it's more interesting, I think this year than in probably two or 49 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,760 three of the past years, because it's not the bills just dusting it off and going for 50 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,080 it again, because they got knocked down by the chiefs or the Bengals in the playoffs. 51 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:29,760 It is literally we're rebranding, rebuilding, regrowing this team from the core out. 52 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,000 And I'm very interested to see how that looks on field once week one comes. 53 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Yeah, absolutely, dude. 54 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,320 So let's talk about the game in and of itself. 55 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,760 As you mentioned, many of the starters did not play, which was expected in the third 56 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,000 and final preseason game here. 57 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,880 And because of some of the, I would call it annoying injuries that the bills have faced 58 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,960 this preseason amongst some of the starting unit, particularly in the wide receiver room. 59 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:01,400 The defense, I don't know how much we should be concerned, but they did not look great. 60 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:07,320 And I think coming at it from that standpoint as we dive a little bit into who we want to 61 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,920 see on this roster, one of the things that stands out is because as we let in with this 62 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:17,360 pod, there are so many young guys competing for spots, there is not a lot of proven depth, 63 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,240 particularly on the defensive side of the ball this season. 64 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,560 And I think the bills are going to find themselves in a really interesting space because this 65 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,080 is a team that is used to playing a lot of close games as we'll get into probably later 66 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,360 on in the pod. 67 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,960 And I think the defense has been a big reason why so many of their games have been so close 68 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,920 in the regular season. 69 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,240 We know the scheme is going to be solid, like McDermott is going to scheme up something 70 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,800 with Babbage that is going to work for this unit. 71 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,640 This is the first time though I've really looked at a bill's depth chart and been like, 72 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,240 I have concerns about some of the guys on the defensive side of the ball and their ability 73 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,240 to execute. 74 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,120 Now, listen McDermott and Babbage, they're both great coaches. 75 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,040 It's harder for me to see it coming together, especially after that Panthers game where 76 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,360 granted Bryceon played and the Panthers first unit played for a little bit against our backups, 77 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,120 but Panthers are not a good football team. 78 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,960 Hey, that first unit is not a good football team. 79 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,960 I have concerns, particularly in the linebacker room. 80 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:19,280 So yeah, man, but the run game looked great and the second line and Aaron Kroemer we trust. 81 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:23,800 I rescind everything that I said earlier in the preseason about where that offensive 82 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,960 line is at, but real concerns on the defensive side of the ball. 83 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:27,960 So where do you want to start? 84 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:28,960 Offensive or defense? 85 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,440 Let's start with the defense. 86 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:36,120 I think that's the, as you've aptly pointed out, the side of the ball that has had the 87 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:43,200 most change and it's weird to say that given that the offense with digs and Davis departing, 88 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,760 there's almost nobody with targets from Josh Allen other than Khalil Shakir on that side. 89 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,760 But I really think that the defense has gone through a whole metamorphosis in the off season. 90 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:58,520 I am not as worried about the defense because I actually think one unit is substantially 91 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:04,120 better this year than last and again, assuming everybody the top four stay healthy and that's 92 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,600 defensive tackle. 93 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:11,160 I think that Ed Oliver is like absolutely going to be on fire this season and he in 94 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:16,080 his limited snaps in preseason looked excellent, but like he's picking up right where he left 95 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:21,600 off and I have taken another step and he is, you know, it's tough to see good play at that 96 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:28,360 position, but ask any analysts or anybody who looks at like metrics and breaks down 97 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,160 the play by play and they'll tell you that he's one of the best defensive tackles in 98 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,960 the entire league and I think that he looks a little bit even sharper this year. 99 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,040 And if you hair him together with the Quan Jones, the Joe Andreessen coming out party 100 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:46,320 against Pittsburgh was largely because he was playing behind the first unit defensive tackles 101 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,760 and they were gobbling up double teams. 102 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,520 They were not allowing guards or centers to scrape to the second level and so he faded 103 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,160 in the Panthers, but I think that was largely because of the backup defensive tackle play 104 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,400 and they were actually down down the roster a little bit. 105 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,240 It wasn't just that they weren't playing the top two is they weren't playing the top three 106 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,680 for most of that game. 107 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,480 And so there were a lot of people, Gable Steveson was getting a lot of snaps and that player 108 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,760 has no business on any football field considering he just started the sport this summer. 109 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,880 So give him a chance to get it under his belt for a bit and he's definitely not going to 110 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,160 be counted on by linebackers to keep them clean. 111 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,760 And so that's the unit I'm very bullish on is the defensive tackle unit. 112 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,760 I think that rotation is better than the bills I've seen in three years. 113 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,720 I think that Jordan Phillips was just a not player. 114 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,720 He was juice when he was here, but he left for Arizona and when he came back, I think 115 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:40,720 it was a shell. 116 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,760 He was barely impactful on any snaps. 117 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,680 And so I think they've definitely upgraded there. 118 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:56,920 I think that Greg Rousseau after completely eating the right tackle for the Steelers lunch 119 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:57,920 on multiple snaps. 120 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,360 He was in the game for eight snaps and he had five pressures and two sacks. 121 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,640 So I'm pretty happy about that. 122 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,120 And I can see, and that was a first round pick highly touted whose name I can't remember. 123 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,520 Yes, that's right. 124 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,720 And he was from Georgia and was drafted in 2023. 125 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:19,120 So Roger Jones just looked like a complete, he looked like a third stringer against Greg 126 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,120 Rousseau. 127 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,960 And I thought that there were some things I saw Greg Rousseau pull off that I haven't 128 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:29,520 seen from his game in terms of like speed to power one arm jab, the dip under like he 129 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,960 had the better repertoire of moves. 130 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,840 And I listened to some media availability with him where he was asked, do you go in with 131 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:38,840 a plan? 132 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,680 How do you feel like you have more moves? 133 00:08:40,680 --> 00:08:45,440 And he basically was like, you don't really have more moves as a defensive lineman. 134 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,240 You just figure out the two or three that you're excellent at and then counters off 135 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,240 of each of them. 136 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,240 And that's what you have. 137 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,240 And I look at somebody like Von Miller, who's one of the best pass rushers in the history 138 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,240 of the NFL. 139 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,640 And he doesn't have more than three or four moves that he used. 140 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,320 He's just better at them than anyone else. 141 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,000 And I thought that was a stoop point. 142 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,160 And that tells me to come in to come fully together for Rousseau. 143 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,480 I think being healthy is going to be the biggest question. 144 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,480 Always with him. 145 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,480 Always with him. 146 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,480 Always with like foot injuries. 147 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,480 Yes. 148 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,680 The lower body stuff on those bigger guys is always a concern. 149 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:20,440 Always a concern for sustainability at the position. 150 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,640 No, I agree with you on the DTN. 151 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,800 Though I'm curious, what do you think of Carter at this point? 152 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,600 I, and listen, this is probably a very, this is a criticism you could probably make of 153 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,920 a lot of rookies and a lot of teams. 154 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,960 In college, I saw the processing speed. 155 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,520 The pass run recognition was really quick on film. 156 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,080 At the NFL level, at least in preseason, he's having a much harder time with that. 157 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,560 I think he makes the roster. 158 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:49,560 There's no reason why he shouldn't. 159 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:52,360 But does he give you pause at this point? 160 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,000 Because he's a third round pick. 161 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,600 They're not going to, they're not going to not roster him and he's going to play in 162 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:58,740 the rotation. 163 00:09:58,740 --> 00:10:02,720 So do you have any concerns about Carter as a death piece on that line? 164 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:03,720 Yeah. 165 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,920 And especially because I think they're going to probably go heavy at defensive end, they're 166 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:13,120 probably going to only keep the core four to Juan Jones at Oliver Austin Johnson and 167 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,560 Dwayne Carter because of his draft status. 168 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:19,440 I am worried about him when he is in the game. 169 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:24,600 I think that we saw some flashes from him in some of his snaps in the preseason in terms 170 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,800 of his kind of burst and ability to press and rush the passer. 171 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,240 I was really worried about him and some run stops and run fits. 172 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,120 So we'll see. 173 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:41,840 I think he's got the thing about doing Carter is he is probably a slightly lesser profile 174 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:48,400 physically than you'd want for the NFL, but he's got so much ability and vision for it. 175 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,720 Like you mentioned in his college tape that it's, I think it's a matter of the game slowing 176 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,520 down for him and him getting more comfortable with the speed of the game, the size of the 177 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,280 players, the strength of everybody across from him. 178 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,720 And I think that might just take some time. 179 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,560 I'm not at all worried about him and its long term prospects because I think that what they 180 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:12,480 drafted for was an incredibly high character guy who has enough physical ability to be 181 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,800 good at it, but he's really more a penetration style three technique. 182 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,800 He's not going to, if he has to spell the Quad Jones, it's not going to go well. 183 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,760 I think I'd rather actually see, of course I'd rather see Austin Johnson because he's 184 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:31,680 more of that body type, but I would even rather see Eliankou or Deshaun Williams be elevated 185 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:35,000 for a game if they're on the practice squad to spell the Quad Jones. 186 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,240 If there was an issue there, then have DeWayne Carter play any snaps trying to hold the point 187 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,240 of attack at a one. 188 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,240 Yeah. 189 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,600 And that's that that in and of itself, you mentioned the Quad Jones. 190 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,120 We are hoping for a full season out of the guy. 191 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,440 Then I don't know that we're necessarily going to get. 192 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:58,840 So Austin Johnson becomes very important, not just as a rotational piece, but there could 193 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,440 be two or three games where we're relying on him to start. 194 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,880 And then you really do need Carter to play that kind of swing from the one to the three 195 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,720 if necessary, depending on what kind of depth you got on the practice unit. 196 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,880 I like your take on edge. 197 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:18,240 And I think they need to throw as many irons in that fire as humanly possible. 198 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,120 Because outside of Gregor So who looks like he's poised to take a leap. 199 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,600 I've not loved what I've seen out of AJ Epineza this preseason. 200 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:33,240 The pass rush ability looks like it is where it was towards the tail end of last season. 201 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:39,080 Dude, his run stopping ability, though, looks like it's taken a full step back. 202 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:45,480 And when you're playing opposite of Gregor So who I think it's not an overstatement 203 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:53,640 to say is probably a top 10, maybe even a top seven edge defender against the run. 204 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:59,880 You are going to it's going to be open season on AJ Epineza for opposing teams run games. 205 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,280 And it leaves a big hole to me on this defensive line. 206 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,800 If he can't figure out that aspect to his game and become a little bit more well rounded 207 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,600 there, and it's not something quite frankly that showed up on his film last season, though, 208 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,320 because he was in such a limited rotational spot, they were only putting him in a lot 209 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,040 of peer pass rush situations. 210 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,440 If they are not getting out of Von Miller what they need and Von Miller becomes your 211 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:26,800 situational guy, I have real concerns about AJ Epineza getting a majority of the snaps 212 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:27,960 opposite Rousseau. 213 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:28,960 Where are you at with that? 214 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:34,320 I have the same concerns because I observed, of course, the same thing of AJ Epineza just 215 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,720 not holding at the point of attack. 216 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:41,600 And that's been a problem for his game since he came into the league was that he gets swallowed 217 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,640 up or washed out a lot. 218 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,880 And I think that some of it was the variability of his body type because he was gaining weight 219 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,040 and losing weight and finding his flow. 220 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,520 Now he's been at the proper weight for two years now and that he's going to play at and 221 00:13:54,520 --> 00:14:00,240 he seems to get washed out, get swallowed up, get easily moved off the spot with doubles 222 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,960 not holding the point of attack. 223 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,280 I think the only saving grace for AJ Epineza is that Christian Benford and Russell Douglas 224 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,920 are both excellent tackling corners. 225 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,160 And so he will likely have somebody on the outside behind him that can come up and minimize 226 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,560 the damage. 227 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:16,120 And that has been the case for a while. 228 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,000 I think that also applied to Christian Benford and Dorian Williams. 229 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:25,600 I think Dorian Williams especially is exceptional at playing forward and fitting the run. 230 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,640 And it's a matter of if AJ Epineza is not doing so poorly, at least throwing up all 231 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,160 over himself. 232 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,100 I think he'll probably keep that position starting across from Rousseau and leaving 233 00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:40,920 Von Miller for situational situations, situational pass rush situations. 234 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:46,720 Dwayne Smoot I think is an excellent edge defender and may start eating into AJ Epineza's 235 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:52,920 snaps as the every down early down run defender if he starts to be a liability. 236 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,320 Yeah, JJ. 237 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,120 I think Smoot is going to factor into the defensive tackle rotation too. 238 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:03,440 He's got some of that inside-outside versatility that the Bills typically covet on their line. 239 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,720 But also I think too, depending on the health of that room, they may need him to do that. 240 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:08,720 I don't know. 241 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,400 They invested in Epineza, hoping that they were going to catch him in his prime. 242 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,360 And again, preseason is what it is. 243 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,440 That's guys kicking off for us, but I just haven't seen it. 244 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,360 Another interesting tidbit I think of the defensive side of the ball from the Panthers 245 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,760 game you mentioned. 246 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:27,240 Everybody's favorite son of Buffalo, Joe Adrezen, who did not show well in this game. 247 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,520 But again, a lot of it was probably the talent around him, as you mentioned. 248 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,000 Wasn't playing with the first unit defensive line. 249 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,600 We have seen how much quality of defensive line play in this Buffalo scheme makes a difference 250 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,480 for those linebackers. 251 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:47,800 I think it is nothing to me that would keep him from making the 53 man roster, especially 252 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,080 because the state of the linebacker room is what it is at this point. 253 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:57,040 But yeah, another area that I want to talk about, and this is one of my, has to be one 254 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:03,640 of my favorite preseason stories, I think so far out of Bill's camp to Quan Hardy, dude. 255 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:11,520 That guy, not only did he show great and improved decision making to me in the return game, 256 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,040 which ups his value as a special teamer. 257 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:20,160 I just I cannot get enough of this dude's aggression and attitude in decision making 258 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,400 when he is out there. 259 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,720 They have played him as much on the outside, I think is anything else. 260 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,920 Like he was billed out of the draft as someone who could potentially back up Taren Johnson 261 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:35,800 and maybe because we know Taren Johnson is eventually going to age out of that, the nickel 262 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,680 position and the nickel corner position. 263 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,360 And you have said there is probably a two to three year window where they will transition 264 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,880 him to safety and I totally agree. 265 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:51,760 So Hardy looks in early insurance policy against injury or that inevitable transition. 266 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:57,440 But this dude can play on the outside too, and his play, should he sustain it heading 267 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,600 into the regular season really changes my outlook on the cornerback room and depth on 268 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,560 the outside as a whole. 269 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:11,520 Because if they can use him and varying positions as a chess piece in the secondary, dude, if 270 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:18,680 they can find the right situations, peer passing situations and let his innate instincts and 271 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:23,520 decision making and aggression towards the ball, he literally feels like a dude, the 272 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,920 McDermott depending on the situation can go to and say, we need to turn over, go get 273 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,920 it. 274 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,840 And he feels like a dude who's going to get it. 275 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,400 And I thought he played a great game, both special teams and defensively against the 276 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,400 Panthers. 277 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,040 And to me, this is a dude I want on the 53 man. 278 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:44,160 He reminds me a little bit, not in kind of stature, but a little bit kind of that Dane 279 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,680 Jackson of a player who. 280 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,640 Oh, why are you doing this to him? 281 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,840 No, I'm doing this to him because we've seen him like show out and show up against second 282 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,920 and third string passing attacks. 283 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,000 I get it. 284 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,520 And I know that what you're saying, and I'm excited about him too, I don't mean to like 285 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,160 just throw water on the hot coals. 286 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,400 But I think he is a player who there is a reason that he fell as far as he did in the 287 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,400 draft. 288 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,880 He has some limitations, but he could all I think his floor is Dane Jackson, his ceiling 289 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,440 is Taran Johnson. 290 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,680 And you want that ceiling. 291 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:16,760 He's an all pro, right? 292 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,800 And so I think there's a possibility there. 293 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:23,520 I'm trying not to get too dang excited because I tend to get over like I was like, all right, 294 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,800 Joe Andreessen, new Matt Milano, let's go. 295 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,240 But yeah, I know I'm I love the day, Juan Hardy story because especially he is not the 296 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:36,720 body type that you can play outside corner in the NFL, but his tenacity forced their 297 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,720 hand and they're like, okay, get out there day, Juan, let's see you. 298 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,280 And right now he's on the depth chart is like the sick. 299 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,040 He's in the top six corners. 300 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,680 He's acting as the understudy for Christian Benford. 301 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,960 So not a bad place to be for him. 302 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,840 And I think too, I think that he's pretty much a lock because of the punt return ability. 303 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,000 Oh yeah. 304 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,960 And the improvement over the three preseason games in his decision making ability, letting 305 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:03,880 a I think he let a punt go at the five yard line against the Panthers. 306 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,160 And that was a really big improvement because of the Steelers. 307 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,320 I think he fair caught it three. 308 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,080 Yeah, he's fair caught something inside his own five. 309 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,080 Yep. 310 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,080 Yeah. 311 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,040 And he's moved to the tenacity. 312 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,040 He reminds me. 313 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:22,200 Do you remember Courtland Finnegan, the former Tennessee type who just got under everybody's 314 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,200 skin. 315 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,200 Yeah. 316 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,600 Teammates love to play with him, but opposing teams hated to play against him because he 317 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:32,080 played with so much ego and hubris and physicality. 318 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,680 That's who Hardy reminds me of. 319 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,680 Nice. 320 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,920 And I it's I thank you. 321 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,480 I feel like it is good comp. 322 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,160 But also too, it shows to me. 323 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,520 Not necessarily a change in scheme, but the bill's understanding by bringing in a guy 324 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:49,960 like Rizul Douglas, who is a turnover machine in and of himself, a guy like Kayer Elam, 325 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:56,520 who is as likely to get you a 15 yard defensive holding penalty or an INT. 326 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,760 And then a guy like Hardy, they are trying to prioritize not just keeping the lid on 327 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:07,600 offensives offense opposing offenses, but turning them over and giving Josh Allen and 328 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,600 this offense more opportunities to go to work. 329 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,200 I like the aggression in the secondary that I'm seeing, dude. 330 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,440 I really like it. 331 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:20,120 And I hope it leads to the thing that we have said the bills need to do more if they want 332 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:23,240 to be compete with some of these quick passing offenses. 333 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,600 And that's play more man. 334 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,280 And I feel great about the depth in the secondary that they can do that with some success this 335 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,280 year. 336 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,280 Yeah. 337 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:38,360 I think that for me, I don't have any other comments on the defense other than I don't 338 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:43,880 have it's almost like the linebacker situation last offseason in preseason. 339 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:49,240 I don't have a lot to say about the safeties this preseason because we know that Taylor 340 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,960 Rap is going to hold the starting spot. 341 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,440 He played barely any of the preseason games because of the injury situation out there. 342 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,800 They did not want one of their expected starters to go down like they have with all of their 343 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,800 other expected starters. 344 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,800 And so the question really becomes who's going to be lined up with him. 345 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,840 It's most likely DeMar Hamlin to start the season. 346 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:16,120 But I can see Cam Lewis, Cole Bishop or Mike Edwards pretty quickly replacing DeMar Hamlin 347 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:18,720 because we know about Hamlin's limitations. 348 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,880 You love the aggression. 349 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,760 You love the way he comes up and fills on run fits. 350 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:29,040 But he sometimes is a liability in coverage, especially with speedier receivers. 351 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:34,840 Yeah, I could see, you know, it'll be interesting to see who they roll out in the Arizona game. 352 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,560 You could see Hamlin getting the start, but Mike Edwards, who finally was able to get 353 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,160 off the injured list, graded out pretty well against the Panthers. 354 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:48,840 PFF again, take it with a grain of salt, but they graded him as a 79, one of the top five 355 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,800 five bills performers in that game in the preseason. 356 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,880 I see a world where Hamlin gets the start, but if a Marvin Harrison Jr. absolutely blows 357 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,440 by him on a go route, I can see Edwards in there pretty quickly. 358 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,440 Yeah. 359 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:08,120 And I trust Mike Edwards as a deep third freewheeling outfielder more than anybody else on that 360 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:09,120 roster right now. 361 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:10,120 Yeah, absolutely. 362 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:11,120 Absolutely. 363 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:13,560 All right, let's flip to the offensive side of the ball, JJ. 364 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:18,240 We and then we'll move on to some prediction shirt or go wrong, which I freaking love 365 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,240 doing. 366 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,120 It is the bread and butter of this podcast. 367 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:22,960 But let's talk about the offensive side of the ball. 368 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,960 We came into this game after that Steelers game with some concerns about the overall 369 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,360 depth of the offensive line unit, something that the bills we have noted voluntarily 370 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:38,160 sacrificed by getting rid of guys like Ryan Bates and Mitch Morse. 371 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,280 I think it looks like it's starting to coalesce. 372 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,640 Granted, they're playing against second and third unit guys for the Panthers defense and 373 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,920 the Panthers are a bad roster top to bottom. 374 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:55,240 But we got what we've been asking for, which is Alec Anderson shifting over to second unit 375 00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:03,200 guard and Cedric van Pan van Pren Granger getting a second unit star at center. 376 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:09,600 That to me is the ideal depth and positioning that you want to see from your second unit 377 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,640 and the second you know, offensive line played really well in this game, particularly in 378 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,640 the run game. 379 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,520 What did you're the offensive line guy? 380 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,280 What did you see from the second unit that gave you hope? 381 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:25,560 I think that it's nice to see some of those players that we have come to learn about a 382 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:32,520 little bit show out Ryan Van Damark, Alec Anderson, Richard garage, who are really like 383 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,680 those are testaments to the thing we mentioned at the beginning of the pod about the Buffalo 384 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:44,120 bills, trying to get guys in here, develop them and then have those guys deliver a greater 385 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:47,520 value than any of the resources invested in them. 386 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,480 Ryan Van Damark, Alec Anderson, Richard garage, late round picks or undrafted rookie free 387 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:58,320 agents who were spent time on the practice squad developing and being trained under Aaron 388 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:07,960 Kroemer are all looking like enough capable enough on an NFL field to be able to maybe 389 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,540 not start at other teams, but definitely be a preferred backup. 390 00:24:12,540 --> 00:24:15,320 And there are some teams in the league who would probably start them. 391 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,920 So that's an excellent place to be in when you have the bills starting offensive line 392 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,320 is one of the things that actually makes me very happy. 393 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,920 I know that you have some apprehension about how much they were willing to part with in 394 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:32,960 terms of depth, but I think it's showing that they knew what they had behind that depth. 395 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,600 So it made it a little bit redundant. 396 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:40,440 I don't know that I'd be any happier with Ryan Bates than Alec Anderson at this point. 397 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,600 I think that Alec Anderson is going to be a fine player. 398 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,000 I think Richard garage looks good. 399 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:50,280 I think Ryan Vandermark particularly and left tackle snaps is like everything you want. 400 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,640 And then there are some players like, you know, it was good to see Cedric Van Prenger 401 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,680 with a second unit gets some run at center. 402 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,960 I think that Tylen Graebel should have a roster spot and is it looks like an excellent 403 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:09,920 steal to pick up, you know, as a rookie because he's got such good athleticism. 404 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,520 And it's a matter of if he refines his technique, he'll be starting caliber in the NFL based 405 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,880 on his athletic profile. 406 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,080 So it's just a matter of learning, getting some of those some of the snaps and getting 407 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:24,440 some time under his belt in the systems to understand how to approach pass rush moves 408 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,560 and counters at this level. 409 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,040 But if he hits that the bills have got a guy who's who's starting caliber in him based 410 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,160 on his physical profile. 411 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:39,040 I saw what I saw was a unit of players who have been mixed and mashed together with other 412 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,640 in other units and other situations who showed the flexibility and variability of having 413 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,920 different players next to them. 414 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:51,800 But we're still able to have that preternatural sense of movement and space and where your 415 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:57,560 backup is and how you can help your guard or help your tackle with some leverage and 416 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:03,320 just the small nudge that reroutes a tackle or an end to set your brother next to you 417 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,920 up for a block. 418 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:10,640 That was the thing I saw that again, the quality of the opponent matters, the difficulty of 419 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,560 the team matters because the Panthers are terrible, but the things I saw were very favorable 420 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:21,160 for the year to show it was the small nuances of a team that looks like it has chemistry 421 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,880 on the line that we did not see in the first year, first week of the preseason. 422 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,000 Saw a little bit more with Pittsburgh and saw quite a bit more with all units in this 423 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,080 game, even times and snaps when they didn't do very well, there were things to take from 424 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,760 it that I thought looked like more advanced chemistry, which is what you want to see an 425 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,920 offensive line. 426 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,760 Absolutely, dude, I would love to, I'd love to talk about the running backs because I 427 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:49,720 think Evans and Gore Jr. absolutely showed out in this game, though both left with injuries. 428 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:55,880 The reality is the running back room on this 53 man feels pretty set at this point. 429 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:01,280 Evans may have some play as a return guy or special teams guy, but I really hope to see 430 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,040 one or both of those guys back on the practice squad, particularly Gore Jr. 431 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:11,840 He just seems to, he flows to the opening that the offensive line is providing for him 432 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,280 in such a easy, smooth, almost like professional way. 433 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,800 He looks really polished, which given the pedigree and the tutelage you assume he's 434 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,880 gotten from his father, the great Frank Gore, the Buffalo Bill great Frank Gore, you're 435 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,360 not surprised to see it, but that's somebody who I'd love to see them stash on the practice 436 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:36,640 squad and potentially get some run next season as a depth piece is that third or even backup 437 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,640 running back. 438 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,080 I really liked what I saw to him particularly, but I want to talk about QBs because listen, 439 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:47,280 we all know that, that if Josh Allen goes down, the season is done anyway. 440 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,960 But it's interesting what is happening in the QB room right now with Mitchell Trabisky's 441 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,960 injury, which right now we don't know the extent of. 442 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,320 And we, and there's guaranteed money in his contract. 443 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:06,040 Keith had hoped that the bills were in a position that a lot of teams are when they sign a great 444 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,840 QB to a long-term deal. 445 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,600 They start to draft rookies and develop them in their system. 446 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,760 You hope down the line, they become trade bait for a third round pick or whatever it 447 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,760 is. 448 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,440 But the bills went with a high priced veteran who probably doesn't win you many games because 449 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,440 we know what Mitchell Trabisky is. 450 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,480 He struggles in short area. 451 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,200 He holds onto the ball too long and he's a liability throwing it downfield. 452 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,160 But he's pretty good in the QB run game. 453 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,640 So all that being said, is there a guy not on the roster because they're handling the 454 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,800 QB room that they now need to go reach for who's going to get caught like a Mike White 455 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,840 who just got cut from Miami today, right? 456 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,280 Are the bills still unsettled in the QB room behind Josh Allen? 457 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,160 I don't like Mitch Trabisky as a player. 458 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:58,840 I think that he was inconsistent, inefficient, and ineffective the last time he was with 459 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,480 the bills two years ago. 460 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,200 I think he is worse now than he was then. 461 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,640 But I think Mitch Trabisky now, when healthy, still better than Kyle Allen, who I think 462 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:16,720 is so remarkably under skilled when it comes to his athletic tools. 463 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,720 His athletic tools, I think, is the problem, right? 464 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:25,080 Kyle Allen, he's in the NFL as a backup, he gets contracts, he must be good at play 465 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:30,560 intelligence and kind of an understanding systems and where the ball should go and timing 466 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,800 and pacing. 467 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400 But the problem is his athletic skills just aren't there. 468 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,880 And so I think that I saying that I can still see the bills signing him if Mitch Trabisky 469 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,360 can't go week one, and he gets clipped from Pittsburgh. 470 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,520 I could also see the bill signing Keith's Kenan to come back because I think case Kenan 471 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,760 actually of the bills most recent backup quarterbacks was one who I like the most. 472 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,240 He had a decent showing in the preseason when he was with the bills. 473 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:02,080 And I think that he is a capable distributor of the football because of his pedigree is 474 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,000 long veteran status. 475 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,040 And so I think there's an opportunity there. 476 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,400 Honestly for me, because again, as you mentioned, seasons cooked if Josh Allen mixes any appra.. 477 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:17,560 or misses any appreciable time, but I wouldn't mind Ben D'Nucci. 478 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:24,120 Give me a Ben D'Nucci if Mitch Trabisky because because I think here and here's why Ben D'Nucci 479 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:30,440 still has movement on his ceiling capable, I think because he's a younger player. 480 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,600 I think that when you were talking about case Kenan, Kyle Allen, Mitch Trabisky, there none 481 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,360 of them is going to get beyond the ceiling that we've seen in the NFL in the league. 482 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,440 Ben D'Nucci might. 483 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,160 He might still have some seasoning and some flavor and and he might have a little bit 484 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,200 longer to go on the slow cooker. 485 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,260 Those other guys, they're already cooked. 486 00:30:51,260 --> 00:30:56,280 It's just wild to me how much guaranteed money we have to commit to our QB to because we failed 487 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,320 to draft we failed to draft like a capable rookie QB because again, no matter what happens 488 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,360 with Josh Allen, seasons like if Josh Allen is hurt, the season is over. 489 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,520 There is no one you're going to find on the veteran QB market that is going to elevate 490 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,320 you to where you need to be to make the playoffs. 491 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,320 Just not going to happen. 492 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,520 Joe Flacco is not walking through that door and you know what I mean. 493 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,520 So to me, it was a missed opportunity that honestly could have bought them some cap savings, 494 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,720 but whatever. 495 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:30,480 So Ben D'Nucci, the Buffalo Bread podcast is on board with you being our QB to we welcome 496 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,560 you as the prince who was promised from James Madison University. 497 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,560 Come on the show, Ben. 498 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,560 We'll get you on. 499 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,400 Tell the world your story. 500 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,400 That's right. 501 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,400 We want to hear all about you. 502 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,840 All right, sir. 503 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,560 So preseason is wrapped. 504 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:49,720 We now have a couple of weeks to set the table for for the Buffalo Bills upcoming 2024 regular 505 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:56,760 season and I want to kick that process off with some prediction sure to go wrong. 506 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,200 Limited predictions because we got to stretch this out over two episodes here before we 507 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,040 get into the Cardinals pregame. 508 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,280 But I want to talk about a couple of areas and listen, I did some digging and I did some 509 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:10,560 research and I've got three areas that I want to unpack with you that I think will be a 510 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,320 lot of fun to do. 511 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,840 One is the overall bills win total for the upcoming season. 512 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,680 Pretty pretty pretty mundane stuff, right? 513 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,000 Everyone's going to give a win total prediction at some point over the next couple of weeks, 514 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,880 particularly after the 53 man comes out. 515 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,960 But I think there's some interesting things showing out on the bills schedule with regard 516 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:35,600 to strength of schedule that I think should be factored in before the 53 man gets settled. 517 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,160 Next, I want to talk about Red Zone, dude. 518 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,600 The bills were really good in the Red Zone last season and they have added some really 519 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,080 fun weapons that Brady and Alan can mess around with. 520 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,040 I want to talk about who we think the number one Red Zone target for the bills is going 521 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,440 to be and my pick is likely going to surprise a lot of people. 522 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,800 And then finally, I want to talk about tempo of this offense. 523 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:05,440 This is a run first ball control heavy offense based on what we saw last season, weeks 11 524 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,640 through 18, when Joe Brady took over. 525 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,440 But I think there's going to be some fun wrinkles we're going to see, particularly from a matchup 526 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,360 standpoint with what the bills are going to be facing on their schedule in 2024. 527 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,120 So JJ, let's kick it off with win totals. 528 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,120 Let's start there. 529 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,120 All right. 530 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:27,480 So the betting over under right now from Vegas is 10 and a half for the Buffalo Bills. 531 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,320 I've seen some predictions from people I respect at the ringer and the athletic go 532 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,680 as high as 12. 533 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,960 I have also seen some people say this is going to be a season where the bills are effectively 534 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,400 punting and rebuilding the roster. 535 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,960 I've seen wind totals as low as seven. 536 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:47,260 JJ, where do you sit with the Buffalo Bills overall win total? 537 00:33:47,260 --> 00:33:52,360 They are going to be playing the ninth hardest schedule based on projected wind totals this 538 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,360 season. 539 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,960 And they've got some interesting metrics that they're going to need to be meeting. 540 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,480 They're going to need to be facing when it comes to last season's defensive DVOA. 541 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:07,280 They're playing 11 of their 17 games against teams that were either a top 10 in passing 542 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,040 defense by DVOA or run defense by DVOA last season. 543 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,320 So they've got some interesting matchups down here. 544 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,080 Where are you with the Buffalo Bills win total? 545 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,960 I think they're going to be able to go 11 and six. 546 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,520 To prepare for the pod, I did the classic Bills fan exercise. 547 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,760 You look at the schedule and you like jot down W or L next to them as you go. 548 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,880 And I think that the reason that I'm pretty confident the Bills will get over 10 wins 549 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:41,080 is that they have a number of younger quarterbacks that they're playing early in the season. 550 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:46,360 And I think that's very good for the Bills is to play people in new situations younger, 551 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:52,800 like getting Marvin Harrison, Jr. week one of his NFL career, I think is a benefit because 552 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,400 I don't want to play that guy when he like gets his full when he knocks the rust off and 553 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,760 is like fully ready to go. 554 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,200 Even with the quarterback situation in Arizona and the rest of the offense in Arizona, I 555 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,080 don't want to I don't want to play that guy later. 556 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,400 The Miami Dolphins, their bills are going to play early and their defenses and shambles 557 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,560 with injuries until midseason. 558 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,520 And so there's multiple opportunities. 559 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:21,320 I think the Bills can come out to a hot start and really get things going. 560 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,840 And for that reason, I think they can go 11 and six. 561 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,840 And I think it's going to be a challenge. 562 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,400 I think there's going to be some games that the Bills give up that people are just like, 563 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,400 Oh, yeah, absolutely. 564 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,360 I would not sleep on Arizona week one. 565 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:41,960 Jonathan Gannon, we saw how much of a defensive mind he was that Arizona defense last season 566 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,960 was terrible. 567 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,080 And by every metric, they were terrible. 568 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,640 But when you look at their film, he was just doing some really weird funky stuff that I 569 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,240 think will not play well with Josh's pre snap reads. 570 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:58,200 They're running a lot of amoeba stuff that we'll get into when we get into the pre game 571 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:04,200 that I think if you've got four months to plan your first game against a squad, I think 572 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,320 could really throw a monkey wrench into things. 573 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Miami, I'm with you. 574 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,680 I think Anthony Weaver is going to be a great DC for them, but they're on their third DC 575 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,160 in three seasons and everyone knows what Miami is at this point. 576 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,320 They're going to try to run fast. 577 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,760 I think Jacksonville has a chance to be a true dumpster fire this season. 578 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:26,520 Gabe Davis came to camp overweight has not been showing out does not look like he's 579 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,920 a really good fit for what Doug Peterson wants to do. 580 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,000 And Peterson may very well be the most overrated coach. 581 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,960 Baltimore Houston, New York Jets then becomes a really tough stretch run. 582 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,000 And dude, after that Tennessee game, I wouldn't sleep on Seattle. 583 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,000 Mike McDonald to me is a great defensive mind. 584 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:52,400 He is going to unlock that pass rush in Seattle and he's going to disguise where the pressure 585 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,280 is coming from in so many unique ways. 586 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,960 And that is also something that's been an Achilles heel for Josh Presnap is reading 587 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:02,280 where pressure is actually coming from. 588 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,360 So there are some trouble spots on here. 589 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,240 And because of that, I have for the bills at 10 and seven. 590 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:15,760 Now I still think 10 and seven wins the division potentially because again, we just don't know 591 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,440 what we're going to get with the Jets. 592 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,280 Like the Jets have the easiest first eight games of the season and then it gets markedly 593 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,020 harder for them towards the latter half of the season. 594 00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:28,800 So as bills fans, we could be suffering through the Jets are foreign. 595 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,060 Oh, Aaron Rogers, the promises fulfilled, right? 596 00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:36,040 We could be suffering through a lot of that in September and early October. 597 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,840 But ultimately, I don't know where the Jets are going to land because without a son retic, 598 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,440 I don't know where their past rush is coming from. 599 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,600 And that is a team that likes to stubbornly play for defensive down linemen like we do 600 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,940 and not blitz. 601 00:37:48,940 --> 00:37:52,920 So it's going to be really interesting to see the Jets defense and how they make up 602 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:53,920 for that. 603 00:37:53,920 --> 00:38:01,080 Then dude, that stretch run of Casey, San Fran, the Rams, Detroit, and then New England, 604 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,120 New Jersey, New England to finish out the season. 605 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,320 That's a rough stretch run, even with New England apparently punting on this year. 606 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,720 10 and seven dude feels like where it's at for me. 607 00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:14,640 The game that I saw on the schedule as I was doing the little exercise, I was like, ooh, 608 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,600 maybe that one's going to be dicey at LA Rams week 14. 609 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:24,640 Yeah, there's going to be playoff seating on the line and the bills have to travel across 610 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,400 the country to the West Coast, which is always a challenge for East Coast teams. 611 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,800 And it's not to mention it's a 425 game. 612 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,560 So the bills will be playing at one, their body clocks wise, which is good. 613 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:42,320 But that loss at Pukinacua, like, I think that team is going to be solid this year. 614 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,320 Stafford's healthy. 615 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,320 Yeah, that's healthy. 616 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,320 That all is healthy. 617 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,160 It's going to be a wet and I think that the bills are going to have a challenge out there. 618 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,680 That's probably going to be another shootout, I would imagine. 619 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,680 So yeah. 620 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,680 All right, dude. 621 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,160 Next, I want to talk about Red Zone. 622 00:38:55,160 --> 00:39:01,160 So the bills last season, second in EPA per play in the Red Zone, and they ranked fifth 623 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,520 in total Red Zone touchdowns, according to PFF. 624 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,240 They didn't do it with a lot of traditional running back carries. 625 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:13,480 James Cook was only carry the ball about a quarter of the time in the Red Zone, as opposed 626 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:19,120 to 70% of the time and all snaps before they hit the Red Zone last season. 627 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:24,280 They've got some fun new weapons for Josh to play with to Keon Coleman, Mack Hollins, 628 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,720 I think could be a factor. 629 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:31,440 And then for both fantasy value and real life value, we want to see Dalton Kincaid kind 630 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,920 of progress and add to the yak and add to the reception totals with some meaningful 631 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,720 touchdown production as well. 632 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,840 So he could be a factor there too. 633 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:47,160 But dude, there is a tried and true Red Zone weapon on this bill's offense that I think 634 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,160 is going to show through this season. 635 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,160 My prediction sure to go wrong is that Dawson Knox is going to lead the bills in Red Zone 636 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,800 TD receptions this year, despite all of the new additions, despite all of the growth that 637 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,160 we hope to see out of Dalton Kincaid. 638 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:09,080 Dawson Knox has never ranked lower than fifth in Red Zone targets throughout his career 639 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,120 with the Buffalo Bills. 640 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:17,320 And he has had seasons where he has tied or been the leader in Red Zone receptions for 641 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,640 the Buffalo Bills on three of the last four seasons. 642 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,600 That is quite something to consider when you factor in the fact that he's not been healthy 643 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,880 for all of those seasons either. 644 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:33,800 There is something about Dawson Knox in the Red Zone that gives Josh Allen a lot of comfort. 645 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:39,480 And I think you're going to see so many squads key in on Coleman, look for Ray Davis out 646 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,160 of the backfield, key in on Dalton Kincaid, Mack Hollins, they're going to look to shut 647 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,320 those guys down. 648 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,600 I think this is a season right for the return of Dawson's leak. 649 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,240 Dawson's leak in the Red Zone, my friend. 650 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:52,240 Dawson's leak. 651 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:53,240 Yes. 652 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:54,240 Pacey. 653 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:57,520 So it, no, I think that's a really astute point. 654 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,480 And it's funny because you were saying that and my prediction sure to go wrong about Red 655 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:07,600 Zone success was key on Coleman is going to lead the team in Red Zone TDs. 656 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:13,080 But it like stifled my point so hard when you were like, I think teams are going to, 657 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,760 and I was like, oh, no, there's telegraph, they're telegraphing it. 658 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,440 There are scripted so many preseason Red Zone stuff for him. 659 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,440 Yeah. 660 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,520 And they probably will. 661 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,080 I think that the thing that the bills are probably pretty bullish on and part of the 662 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:31,280 reason they made that pick of Keon, the first pick in the second round is that he's shown 663 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:37,720 in preseason in some regards, but also mostly in training camp that if he does have even 664 00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:43,480 a half foot, half yard of separation from a competitor and Josh Allen puts the ball 665 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,880 on him, I think that's the piece Josh Allen putting the ball on him. 666 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,440 Mitch Trubisky putting the ball on him isn't going to get, get the answers. 667 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,640 But Josh Allen and him have already developed a pretty significant chemistry in terms of 668 00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,240 Keon catching literally everything around him. 669 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:05,240 And more impressively, his body control and ability to get his feet in bounds. 670 00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:10,120 I think that there's going to be some like just jump ball situations early in the season 671 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,480 and maybe throughout the season they develop into a very strong chemistry. 672 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:20,720 And so I see Keon Coleman as being the Red Zone target du jour and I'm excited for it. 673 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:24,760 But I, yeah, when you made that point about Dawson Knox, I was like, Oh yeah, no, he'll 674 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,600 definitely fly into the radar if they're in 12th personnel close to the goal line threatening 675 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,880 with the run. 676 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,280 There's Dawson's leak written all over that. 677 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,280 So it's going to be, it's going to be interesting. 678 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:40,320 I'm hoping for the sake of the bill's wide receiver room future that it's my guy, but 679 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,320 it might be your guy. 680 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:46,960 I know it's very reasonable that it's the guy who's been there all along that ends up 681 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:52,040 being benefiting most from all the new additions and new weapons they've added for the Red 682 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,040 Zone offense. 683 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,040 Yeah. 684 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,040 All right. 685 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,480 Last one JJ last prediction sure to go wrong and where we are again, this is an appetizer 686 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,280 for where we're going to be at over the next couple of weeks here. 687 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,640 We've got more wild stuff we're going to talk about in a bourbon bet that we also need to 688 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,400 decide on what it's going to be. 689 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,840 Though I think an early contender is the who's going to lead the team in Red Zone receptions. 690 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,640 But I want to talk about tempo. 691 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:20,440 The Buffalo bills last season JJ from weeks 11 to 18 had the second lowest pack rate in 692 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:26,360 the league and the highest traditional running back run rate in the NFL. 693 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:32,640 Wild to think about when you've got Josh Allen under center, but we saw the benefits play 694 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,640 out in the long run. 695 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:39,760 They didn't see a whole lot of a lot of regression in EPA per play from the switch from Dorsey 696 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,920 over to Brady and we actually saw time of possession go up. 697 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,400 The bills finished second in the league behind only Cleveland in time of possession last 698 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,800 year and turnovers go way, way down as well. 699 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,480 So a lot of people are heading into the season JJ and they're expecting the bills to be built 700 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,360 around the run. 701 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,840 And I think there is a lot of credibility to that idea. 702 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,880 And I think rationally, it makes a lot of sense. 703 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:10,680 But on a matchup to match up basis, and again, I look at that Seattle game, I also key in 704 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,520 on the Houston game as well, the Jets game teams that we know are going to want to rotate 705 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,960 in defensive line pieces. 706 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:23,360 Tempo could be key in really playing a war of attrition against some of these defensive 707 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:29,600 lines that love to rotate seven or eight deep and really mitigate some of that last season. 708 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:34,560 JJ, the bills only played tempo no huddle on 11% of their snaps. 709 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:41,560 But Josh Allen's passer rating went from a 93.2 to a 104.9. 710 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,200 And we've seen it in real time with the eye test. 711 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,960 Josh just looks way more comfortable slaying it and a two minute offense. 712 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,360 You know what I mean? 713 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,520 Not that they're going to run it all the time. 714 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:56,560 But I think situationally to keep some of these deeper defensive lines off of Josh, 715 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:02,400 I could see up tempo being a factor and being mixed in to Brady's playbook. 716 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,000 So JJ, my prediction sure to go wrong, the bills are going to effectively double their 717 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,000 tempo rate. 718 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,080 They're going to go from 11% in my opinion to about 20% of the time next season again, 719 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,960 based purely on a matchup by matchup basis. 720 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:21,720 This isn't going to be the K-Gun offense that we've all been calling for to be revitalized 721 00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:23,160 with Josh Allen. 722 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,880 But I think we're going to see a lot more tempo in certain game matchups. 723 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,520 JJ, what do you think about that? 724 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:37,040 Dan, I will take your 20% and I will raise you because I think the Buffalo Bills are 725 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,520 going to unveil the J-Gun offense. 726 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,520 Dude. 727 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:48,480 And with a 30% up tempo rate, I think they're going to go no head all for portions of games 728 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:55,080 because I'm going to just go counter anti NFL media that thinks this is going to be 729 00:45:55,080 --> 00:46:01,760 a plodding three yards in the cloud of dust rushing offense with occasional play action. 730 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,080 Now I think they're going to come out and be slinging it. 731 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:10,640 I think that the level of vanilla-ness to the lack of flavor to the Joe Brady offense 732 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,280 in the preseason is going to catch a lot of people by surprise in week one, week two, 733 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,720 especially once we get into the AFC East matchups in the first four weeks. 734 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:23,480 I think you're going to see some things that the league's not ready for. 735 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,120 I'm excited for it. 736 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,120 Wow. 737 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,120 I love it. 738 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,400 This feels a little bit like wish casting, but I really love where you're at. 739 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,400 We've just, and we love Josh, right? 740 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:40,120 But like he is at his absolute worst when he is sucking up the play clock, doing all 741 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:45,720 these checks, trying to figure out where the pressure is coming from, realigning his wide 742 00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:46,720 receivers. 743 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:52,120 When he's doing and mired and muck and doing all those things, the offense is performing 744 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,080 at its absolute lowest point. 745 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,040 When he gets out there, makes a couple of reads, sends some guys to go play. 746 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,480 His decision making is quicker. 747 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,400 His turnovers are lower. 748 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:07,960 It is absolutely not night and day, but you see the difference in real time. 749 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:14,360 And there's a reason why Josh is so good in limited fourth quarter situations where time 750 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,720 is running down the two minute drill. 751 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:21,520 That's where Josh has made his hay and really made his reputation as a QB. 752 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,360 It makes sense putting more of those elements into real game situations. 753 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,560 So I love where you're at. 754 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,040 30 feels really high, but man. 755 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,160 30 would, I would go sign. 756 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,920 Yeah, but 30 would set an NFL record over the last 12 seasons. 757 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:38,920 I know, right? 758 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,200 I understand how obscene that would be. 759 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,200 It would be wild. 760 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,640 Chip Kelly is listening to the spot. 761 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,640 What? 762 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:52,880 What I'm saying is it would be absolutely groundbreakingly and backbreakingly aggressive 763 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,800 because of the amount of time of possession. 764 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:01,560 If the bills go three on out with that method would just be so horrendously skewed towards 765 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,560 the opponent's favor. 766 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,160 It would be so bad. 767 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,120 I just don't think McDermott would allow it. 768 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,680 But yeah, fun stuff. 769 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,480 And again, just a taste of those for you, for those of you listening at home and where 770 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,360 we're going to be at next week as we really dig into the 53 man roster and talk about 771 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,560 what it means for the bill season as we're building up to 2024. 772 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,560 But until then, thank you for listening as always. 773 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,560 Like share and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, YouTube coming to you soon, 774 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,560 Apple and Spotify. 775 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,560 And as always, go bills. 776 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:55,240 What? 777 00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:57,240 You