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Welcome back to the Buffalo bread podcast

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Coming to you live from the recovery ward of 1JJ drive

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I am under the weather and I apologize already if this is a somewhat brief podcast

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we do want to keep everyone waiting for yet another preseason game

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Dan, this is an interesting time of year because I think it's overreaction Wednesday

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What would you say about that?

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Well, based on the news that Bill's Mafia got about Matt Milano today

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I think the only appropriate reaction is that we all find our favorite Sarah McLaughlin song

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Mine is I Will Remember You and we just jam on it

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and put it on single repeat as we all mourn the loss of Matt Milano

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for what is very likely another football season

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So, I mean, listen JJ, I think in all seriousness

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there are very real, there's going to be a very real impact to the loss of Milano

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We know this, we experienced it last year

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I think what we should do our best to do is parse out the real impact of Milano

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versus where we want to go to in our feelings

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particularly after that first preseason game against Chicago

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which is probably an even darker place

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after the Bill's got waxed in that game, right?

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So, listen, there is useful information to pull from that game

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there's real information to talk about with Milano

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My friend, I say we dive right in, we swim through these dark and muddy waters

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and come out on the other side as an anti-dufrane

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clean and ready for what is hopefully a rebound preseason matchup

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If I remember correctly, he came out covered in human feces

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so he wasn't quite clean until the rains hit him

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And it was a Shawshank Redemption

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And it was, good, I'm glad you're on top of your movie references

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this pod just would not be the same without that

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Well, I'm on top of my movie references

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not quite on top of days of the week, I realize after saying Wednesday

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it's in fact Thursday, so that's how my head cold situation is affecting me

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But I agree, I think that it's kind of a, it's sort of a down time

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this whole week, you know, we have the pallor of the, you know

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terrible blowout preseason loss to the Bears

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which doesn't matter, but it just doesn't feel good as a fan base

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followed by Matt Milano apparently on the Tredavius White career trajectory

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which is to miss 10 times more games than you play in

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for a few consecutive seasons and then be unceremoniously cut after

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what was a rise to, you know, what we believed could have been an incredible career as a Buffalo Bill

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So it's just, I'm already putting him in the rear view

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and I know that's bleak, but he is over the age of 30

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he is now going to be two consecutive seasons missing

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most of the season if not all of the season

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and it's, I just don't, you know, I think injury prone is absolutely appropriate at this point

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considering in his what, five seasons or six seasons

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he has had three season ending injuries

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so it's like when 50% of your seasons have been ended by injury

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and two of them prematurely, I just can't see how you have anything other than that tag

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Well, and I think too, right now everyone is trying to think positively about a return date for him

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and optimistically people are like, oh December, December potentially

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but we talked about at LastPod, he still wasn't looking right from his leg injury from last season

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The instincts with the student are there, they're always going to be there

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he's got one of the best motors and one of the best

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one of the best like levels of intuition that you could possibly find at the off-ball linebacker spot

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ESPN, pending his health, had him ranked as the third best off-ball linebacker in the league behind only

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and Patrick McQueen out of Baltimore

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Didn't Patrick Queen move to a different team this off season though?

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I thought he was, oh is he a stealer now?

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I think he's not

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Did he go to Baltimore to Pittsburgh?

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I don't, I think he moved

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vaguely remember

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I think he moved from Baltimore

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but I mean regardless, he's an incredible linebacker

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I would say, I agree with you, I think his greatest ability is his preternatural sense of play flow

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like he understands either through film study

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and tirelessly kind of, you know, viewing his opponent

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or by just like kind of a sixth sense that, you know, you can't really describe

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knowing where the ball is going to be

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and working through the trash of misdirection and pulling guards and whatever it might be

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to just make explosive blow up plays

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I love Matt Milano, he's like the only other player on the team

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besides Josh Allen and Greg Rousseau

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who's jersey I would consider buying right now

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I don't think he's going to return this season

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I think if he is, he's going to look like von Miller last season as like a shell

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and then everyone's going to be just hopeful for 2025

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and at that point he's going to be like 32 years old

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and so it's a wonder of like when one of his greatest abilities is that, you know,

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ball flow and sense of the play

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that ages pretty well, so there is some hope to have

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but that that ability is tethered strongly to his also above average athleticism

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which is the piece that could start to fade

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Yeah, absolutely, and he plays such a high octane, high contact brand of football too

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you wonder that even if he can make it back on the field this season

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how these last two years of injuries may change his play style

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and then it's an open question of if we get a different version of Matt Milano

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how does that fit into this Buffalo Bill's defense?

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Because listen, I, we are dealing with a departure of

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poyer and hide but I think and they have been synonymous

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with the McDermott culture and this Buffalo Bill's defense

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I think even more than those two

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there are two other guys on this roster

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one being Matt Milano, the other being Taryn Johnson

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that are even more to me a part of this fabric and connective tissue

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of what this defense tries to do

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and we saw it last year and it's easy to take that Kansas City

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divisional game in the playoffs and point to how they exploited the middle of the field

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in both the run game and the pass game and be like see that's what Milano does

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that's an oversimplification, let's do this side line to side line

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he shuts down each third of the field to the best of his ability

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and he covers so much ground because of that athleticism you talked about

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and he allows guys to focus on a very narrow path of what they need to do both

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up front and in the secondary because he can be so omnipresent at so many

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different levels and sections of the field

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he is a nuclear deterrent when he is out there

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for guys coming across the middle and run plays straight up the gap to the middle

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of the field at the second level and without him there

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and with who we believe will be his replacement is Dorian Williams there

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you've got to believe it's going to be open season on a lot of play action

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because the Buffalo Bills offense to open up spots in the middle of the field

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until Williams can prove that he can take that first

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instinctual read that he loves to go with and maybe hold off

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just a beat just a half a second to get a better read on the play

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before ultimately making his move and implementing his reaction

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I have a suspicion that Dorian Williams will be unceremoniously benched for

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Balan Specter, Edifulan Olafuscio or Deon Jones

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within three games just because I haven't seen it

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I think that he's looked a little bit more poised and he's looked a little bit

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more because we described him as a heat seeking missile who had no guidance

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system right like he just sort of went in a direction as fast as humanly

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possible and it was impressively fast but it was never the right place like he

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was he made full speed mistakes and he was

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he made full speed mistakes as a rookie and I think that there's

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there's of course great potential there he certainly has all the athletic tools

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but I just wonder I think the reports coming out of training camp and what we

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saw in preseason so far is that he still has incredible incredible

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gaps in his ability to know where to be on the field

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and I just feel like even if he's the most

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athletically gifted of all the backups that it's gonna be

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it's likely he's going to mistake himself out of a starting job even if he

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gets it right off the jump and as a follow on to that

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just like just to be positive and hopeful think about exactly one year ago

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today and us talking about the linebacker core

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and being like this team is so absolutely screwed

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if anything happens to to Matt Milano and what an absolute delight to

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rel Bernard has been he has a vocal leader that's the

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thing that Milano never was that Milano was always

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detentable it was always lead by example but he was never like the heart of that

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defense and to rel Bernard as a second-year player stepped

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flawlessly into that role without even playing a preseason game

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week one and didn't you know give up that position the rest of the year and

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he's poised and again the reports out of training camp reports out of

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preseason so far is that he is pretty much ready to go as the

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quarterback of the defense and has taken a huge step forward in the offseason so

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i mean oh my gosh i'm that that's the one thing that like if this

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injury happened in camp last year i think bill's mafio would be like flipping

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over cars and lighting city blocks on fire because there

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there would be already to remain Edmunds had departed and then

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Matt Milano is gone and it's like well we literally have no linebacker on the

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field at all of at any level and now with 12 minutes like

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this really really sucks i'm very sad but at least we have that guy

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i was gonna say the cupboard is not completely bare

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and i mean Bernard i think is is an amazing comparison point

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because we're talking about williams right now like we were talking about

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Bernard man he's got some plus athletic ability but can he really get out there

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and do what edmunds did for us and he did what Edmunds did for us

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and more especially with his ability to to create turnovers for this buffalo

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williams and Bernard i think immediately become the most athletic most dynamic

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linebacker duo in the league bar none bar none right but that's a lot of

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positivity a lot of hope at this point and a lot of faith that you're taking on

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a buffalo bill's coaching staff that is granted developed a lot of linebackers

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um Bernard being amongst them Milano being of course amongst them maybe the

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best amongst them uh extending the career of a j kline

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terrell dodson got a great payday from seattle this year

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because of of how he was able to develop in this linebacker room in buffalo

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like it i understand that baltimore is considered large

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but you could really make an argument that the bills and the program they have

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in place in that particular position room uh maybe one a behind that club

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so if there is any silver lining to this it is the bills have found next man up

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at this position for many years and to your earlier point jj

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we've had to do it without Milano before and we've had success

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albeit fleeting success when we by the time we get to kansas city

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but we've had success in being able to cover up for his loss

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and this is going to have to be a situation where we do it again it's just

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going to be a different guy it's not going to be a j kline this year it's

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going to be dorian williams well and i think too that the uh you know one of

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the other factors i'd considered as soon as i saw that news break

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is you know what what and how does coal bishop factor into this how how long

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is his injury um it looks like this they've been

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describing it as week to week and so that's pretty hopeful for

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early season return and if so how can they do you know what can they do with

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some dime looks to take some of the pressure off of dorian williams and

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coverage um because he bites so hard on play action that he

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always leaves tight ends wide open in the middle of the field i think that's

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something that coal bishop can shut down and so is it a situation where kind of

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like they did with poyer last year dorian comes off the field

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terrell bernard is the the sole linebacker on the field and they have an

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extra safety and coal bishop you know play those those run fit slash

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play action looks absolutely i mean they predicted terrell dotz and a lot of

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times with that dime package as well after melano went out so i think i

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think there's some utility to it i think i think the trepidation i have

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about it is that the the safety room is not as deep as it was i think coal

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bishop is an ideal fit for that particular role but the the question

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is right now with demar hamlin being ahead of him on the depth chart how safe

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do we feel about what is behind bishop should he be put into that box

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dime look in the safety position and certain in certain positions i i think

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hamlin has taken tremendous steps this off season

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um but i don't feel good about him being the next starting safety next to wrap

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i don't even feel great about rap either rap has had some really nice plays but

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it still feels like when you're particularly looking at game tape um

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and you're looking at some of the footage coming out of training camp he

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still feels like he's playing out of position it feels like he's playing

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center field free safety when early the students a strong safety and feels more

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comfortable and aligned in the box so i yes i think bishop has to be a part of

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the answer if he's healthy otherwise why do you go out and get a guy like that

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um but i feel less confident about what will be behind him than i did last year

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when they put poyer on that position dude all i have to say is two words cam

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lewis cam lewis cam lewis you be alum cam lewis horns up mother

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fucker i'll put a few explicit rating on this

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yeah yeah no cam lewis is going to save us all he can play every single

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position on the defense including interior tackle and edge rusher

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we don't worry about it just stick cam lewis wherever we need him

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jj his i have a quick his justin simmons been signed by anyone yet

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he has not i think he did have he did a free agent visit with

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with some team recently and it made me kind of anxious

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but i don't think he signed anything oh my god i don't i'm looking at spot track

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real quick i don't see him anywhere listed as available anymore

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i'll have to dig a little bit deeper into that but yeah um but yeah man i mean

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listen it is it is the type of adversity that we are

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used to experiencing over the course of the past few seasons

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losing a key portion a key piece of this defense

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having to figure it out with next man up and listen

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is a bills is a bills fan base bills mafia

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we always tend to rag on brandon bean when he uses a random third round pick

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on yet another linebacker or yet another safety or running back

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and for the most part some of these guys tend to come through

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after a little bit of seasoning and a little bit of work in the program

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so you just got to hope at this point especially where salary cap situation

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is and what is available on the free asian market

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which is not a lot that the program and buffalo is still going to turn out

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the next guy up they can help fill this hole and that's all you can

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all you can hope for at this point right the answer the answer is not outside

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the team i was just going to say the corpse of

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shack Leonard is still out there yeah i don't think so poor dude has been

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beaten up but he had like what multiple back surgeries at this point yeah yeah

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so yeah the answer is not outside the clubhouse currently the answer has to be

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in that room so yeah so we'll see we'll see how it plays out

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at jj on the news on the field the buffalo bills

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played a game albeit a meaningless preseason game

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i think it was very telling for a lot of fans

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had leading into it that the starters particularly josh allen and the

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offensive starters would play for the first quarter

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according to shon mcdermot leading into the game

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he was a man true to his word he pulled josh allen mid drive as the quarters

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turned over and there was some interesting things to

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parse about that now listen i want to before we engage with what i know

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we're about to engage with which is this offensive line sucks

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i do want to remind you that after last year's preseason game against pittsburgh

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you and i both said freaking deon dawkins is trash

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and spencer brown needs to go then both of those guys ended up having

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their best career seasons in a bills jersey last year

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all right so oh always moderation always a little bit of grain

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assault when it comes to preseason all right but there are i think some really

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really uh very real important things that we can pick apart

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both on the positive and negative from that first preseason game so jj where do

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you want to start and why is it the offensive line

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it's always the offensive line it's always the trenches brother like you know

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that um i mean i could even just say trenches period like

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that i think is the story of this game i think that

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the offensive line for the bills and the defensive line versus the chicago

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offensive line you know in that game those were the

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kind of it felt like deja vu in the worst way

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because we had our offensive line struggling to protect quarterbacks

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and we had well they did better in past protection the starting in the second

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unit the unit did pretty good in past protection

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terrible in run blocking which is peculiar because you know i think that

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they were much better at run blocking they're a top five or six unit with

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um yards before contact for running backs last year

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and so to have so many of returners in that line and have them

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struggle i think it may have been more about scheme than it was skill

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um and we can talk about that a little bit but yeah i mean the fact that they

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let say sheen buchel get knocked out of the league for the season

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um was rough he also was responsible for probably

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five of his six sacks by just not knowing what to do or where to pull the

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trigger or how to get the ball out fast enough he's run around back there like

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i don't know like a wacky doodle um it was it was nuts uh let's see um

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dion dawkins you know a to a minus uh spencer brown b minus i'd say um

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connor mcgovern c c plus maybe well cyrus torrance a plus that dude just

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always seems to know exactly what to do and how to be and he's stonewalled some

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really good inside rushes and twists um but that's all kind of in past

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protection uh and then david edwards at left guard

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b ish i think it was an up and down performance for the starting unit

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every unit below them was like across the board like a c- minus like it was

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i i recognized that they didn't have any schemed run fits they basically were

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just zone left zone right power left and power right which

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chicago seemed to very early key on and just that's as basic that's the most

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basic football you can do that's like pop Warner stuff and so to have an

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nfl team know how to run fit that in a way that is meaningful especially

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since the bills i think ran it 80 percent of the time on first down

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i'm not at all surprised they you know they didn't have tackle wrap they didn't

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have any poles or traps they didn't have any complex line schemes

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there was no real scraping of any duo you know they love to play duo which is

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um both sides of the center have a double team and then one of the players

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scrapes up to the second level to create some creases and seams they didn't do

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any duo blocking in this so so much of the stuff that is the

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absolute bread and butter of that offensive line with run blocking

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was just completely absent and so i think that when bill's mafia look at it

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on a rewatch with all 22 i was like oh okay they got their lunch eaten because

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they weren't trying to do to really create any extra angles they weren't

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actually creating um favorable matchups or angles for their linemen so each of

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those five starting linemen have specific skills and traits that make them

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better and they weren't playing to their strengths that's one of the erin

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chroma things is we're gonna do run design to get spencer brown on the move

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because he's so athletic we're gonna do run design to get osiris torrance in a

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phone booth with a lot of clutter because he's a people mover and nobody can

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you know break him up at the point of attack so i just i wasn't so worried

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about it um i think it'll be really telling in the

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arizona game and any day before that i'm not going to really stress about the

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offensive line because i've been here before um i do have concerns i think

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that uh i really expected sedric van pran granger to like come in and

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challenge to try to move up the depth chart but he is like fourth right now in

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the center um lineup i think that uh will clap and alec

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anderson both snapped balls before he did in the game which is somewhat

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worrying he hasn't really made too much of a move in training camp so i wonder

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about him because i was even hoping he would challenge you know connor

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mcgovern coming up the the ranks with his impressive college collegiate career

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but um he had his lunch eaten and a couple of snaps in that game

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yeah i i agree with you on the line i'm not panicked

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i think the very limited amount of time to your point 80 percent of the time

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they're running a very vanilla scheme and when they did try to on occasion

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run rap with either um docans or brown it was a matter of timing right it was

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just a matter of timing and those guys getting there it looked like a squad

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that hadn't played a meaningful football game since the winner

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not to oversimplify but that's what it was they were literally kicking off the

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rest and they were playing a team that was playing their second game of the

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season already because the bills were the bears were involved in the

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albeit weather shortened hall of fame game so yeah they looked a little bit

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sharper than the bills they were a little bit more ready to play because they

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have been playing games for longer than the bill squad has

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this was the epitome of let's see what we got

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let's let's shake out some of the the cobwebs and let's see what it is that

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we really need to work on um i have faith in the scheme even if i don't

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have faith at every every level of this personnel um grouping but i agree with

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you on a couple of things i wasn't looking necessarily for what the starting

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five was going to do because i knew that um chroma and brady weren't going to

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want to put a whole lot of stuff on tape in this particular game this is just

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about getting their guys ready but i wanted to see what the second and third

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units did as far as their one-on-one matchups went because at the end of the

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day you can scheme as much as you want to scheme

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but this is a game especially in the trenches about big dudes pushing other

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big dudes as we have talked about and i wanted to see if our dudes could push

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their dudes in any meaningful way and i think on the second and third unit in

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past protection this is a squad top to bottom that played well which makes me

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feel good about the long-term health this year of our lord and savior josh allen

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i think when it came to the run game at every level though the thing that stuck

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out to me is that we were our guys were not winning their one-on-one

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matchups at any kind with any kind of regularity

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um it's interesting that you bring up van pran granger

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because i i can't figure out what his trajectory is right now he's been

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pretty much relegated to the third unit but he played really well in that

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bears game he i mean he's clearly especially in

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past pro pff and take that with a big grain

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assault pff rated him with an 81 which was the highest

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past protection grade and he builds offensive lineman got

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first second or third unit in that game against the bears

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so it's interesting to me that they continue to ride with alec anderson who

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i always thought was more of their ryan baits they're back up to everyone

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everywhere particularly on the interior and you know we saw some sloppy some

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sloppy uh handoffs today when the second unit was on and

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alec anderson was hiking the ball to mitch trimisky

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so it makes you wonder why they've got this every man sort of swiss army knife

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and anderson they're really really trying to pigeon a

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hole him into that center roll where to me his value is all over that interior

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and there seems to be a reluctance to move up van pran granger to the second

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unit in that backup center roll i can't quite figure it out but jj it's

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something i'm going to be looking for in the pits for a game

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i want to see if vpg gets a little bit more time

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with the second unit at center and if he gets elevated because i think he's

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earned it i want to actually see if alec anderson gets

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time with the second unit because i'm going to throw on my tinfoil hat

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and declare that alec anderson may be a pre-cut trade

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because brandon bien always likes to shell off

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one of the offensive line depth better offensive line depth when he feels like

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he has it for a fourth fifth you know sixth

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round draft pick so there's a chance that if you know if

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they're pushing alec anderson up the up the lines

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as a center a center is a little bit more valuable than a guard in this league

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it may be especially one who has center guard flexibility it may be a situation

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where they're looking for opportunities to move him because i don't think the

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team you know having used a fifth early fifth round pick on van pran granger

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is in any position to try to get rid of vpg

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um regardless of how he's kind of not necessarily moved up

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any of the lines can i tell you something yep if brandon bien trades

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three centers that were on either the first or second unit of this squad

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within a seven month period uh i may riot i may but i may march on marcher

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park it you traded one he you know what i mean

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sorry sorry you know you'd be trading two and cutting one

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it is on from three centers it is so hard to find offensive line depth and i

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listen what you say is is totally rational and makes sense

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but like are we really going to continue to cut into our offensive line depth

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more for a fourth round pick that will probably use on

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another nickel corner like i just like a linebacker

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or running back yeah um it just seems it seems counterintuitive to me at this

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point that you've worked so hard as an organization

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over the past seven eight years to get the line right you get the line right

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finally last year you immediately cut in to a lot of that value by cutting

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mitch morris trading ryan baits and you say and you tell the fan base well we

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got this guy in connor mcgovern who played a lot of center in college are

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we thinking you can do it here and oh by the way alex anderson

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who we drafted and stashed a season ago he can play every position and he is

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going to solidify the interior and now you're going to kick that guy to the

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curb too it it feels at some point like again

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hubris if that is in fact the case um but it it kind of makes sense as why vpg

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is not getting more second unit time because he looks better than anderson

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at center and anderson looks like an absolute beast when he plays either

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either of the interior guard positions yeah like he's obviously much more

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comfortable in one of those two roles well and even even to roll back and

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take off my tinfoil hat and say that maybe alex anderson is the first off the

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bench interior backup for all three positions they're moving on from will

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clap their stash and van pran granger as a depth you know uh lineman because he

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is young i think that's valid especially in the pivot you have to be able to

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make all of the line calls and protection adjustments and that's the

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hardest part of the job that's why most college centers wash out of the league

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you know if if they're not high around picks and haven't been vetted to be

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able to do that is the complex protection schemes making sure you're

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identifying the mic linebacker all of that is a challenge and a huge step up

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from even pro style systems in the college ranks so it could be that you

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know alex anderson's first off the bench and they're just trying to get him

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ready for that um in all of those interior spots um but yeah i think that

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you know on the offensive line we both you know made some observations it

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starts and ends with the line on offense if you don't have protection if you

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don't have holes opening up you know nothing's going to happen so it'll be

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interesting to see in the upcoming game against pittsburgh what they're able to

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get done specifically with to your point with a little bit more time to be

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coordinated and a little bit more chemistry to be able to work together

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because it seemed like that was a little disjointed

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yeah um i did have a chance to watch some of the all 22 on this game

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because that is where i am at i am what breaking down film on preseason games

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and i wanted i am i'm a total goner and um i you know rewatch the game through

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the all 22 lens and then i just i wanted to spotlight a player and i've decided

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that's something i'm going to do here moving forward is i'm just going to

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spotlight a dude and of course from this game it was kian colman

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because it was his first live game action in the pros and we want to see what he

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looked like and um listen i think like i see it i see the

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vision for what for what he can be the athleticism the catch radius um it's

451
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all there he needs to have more concise movements in his routes especially on

452
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his release he's a little bit unfurled he's a little

453
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bit kind of gangly right a little bit unwieldy at the point of release

454
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um he's not yet crisp on those clear out routes and all of you folks that are

455
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are thankful that gab davis is off the squad for his on again off again

456
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relationship with being good at football something gab davis was excellent at

457
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was running the clear out now josh would throw the clear out

458
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in which win he shouldn't have but running the clear out is so important for

459
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what brady wants to do in the middle parts of the short area and intermediate

460
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parts of the field because on that clear out route if you can get

461
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your outside release and draw your guy to the boundary with you

462
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it opens up a wide array of options across the middle of the field which is

463
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what brady wants to do and colman is clearly based on my

464
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rewatch of the game going to be asked to fill some of that gab davis clear out

465
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role and he's not yet there on some of the selling

466
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guys on his outside release so he's got a lot of growth but the ability is there

467
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he he is um he's a dude he just catches everything he's a magnet for the ball

468
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like i don't understand how he comes down with some of these throws

469
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that this is this is a concern i have and i had i had this concern with the pick

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when they picked him in the draft but i i have it even more now that we've seen

471
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some film of him playing with josh allen is josh allen absolute i think josh

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allen's in love with the way that keon catches the ball

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and so i'm i'm worried that like you said that josh allen would throw ill

474
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advised clear out routes that aren't the actual design of the play

475
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that that's all we're gonna see game after game with keon col and like it's

476
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gonna be a massive temptation he's gonna make some of those catches and

477
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that's only going to further you know poison josh's mind

478
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yeah they also really locked in on colman on a couple of offensive series in

479
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the red zone as well yeah like they they clearly have a plan for him

480
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in the red zone in the gabe davis uh in the gabe davis role uh and is a deep

481
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threat but they were flashing him across the middle of the field with some

482
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shortened intermediate area stuff too i they're trying to build up his

483
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route tree they're trying to get him to work on his mechanics which listen he

484
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was a very raw product when it came to that stuff

485
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but he he does the thing that you need a wide receiver to do just catch the ball

486
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and the bills are hoping that he can develop or they can teach him

487
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the rest of what he needs to know so he can grow

488
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into that true x wide receiver one role that this team desperately needs and by

489
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all uh by all accounts and reports his football football iq is kind of through

490
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the roof he likes to know every single positions

491
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you know route assignment on every play and so even if his mechanics aren't

492
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quite there the the mental side of the game doesn't seem too big for him so

493
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far absolutely it's like the it's like the

494
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opposite of the kyer elam situation on the other side of the ball

495
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where he came with all of the raw athletic ability you could possibly

496
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ask for but learning this system and learning the scheme

497
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took time it seems like colman while he is a good athlete in his own right it

498
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seems like he's far more advanced in his understanding of the playbook the game

499
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and the concepts he's said it a bunch of times

500
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and um in camp interviews and in post game interviews he's like

501
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we don't learn positions like we don't learn like who's the slot and who's the

502
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z and who's the x we learn concepts we learn routes and that's how brady is

503
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installing this offense in the wide receiver room and i think that's great

504
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and i think i think colman is eating it up so

505
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his his skill set the mechanics and the technique are going to eventually

506
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catch up to what his raw athleticism and his

507
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football acumen allow him to do now just based on raw ability and if he can

508
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,280
put it all together i see it man they may have found their

509
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,200
mike evidence no it's good i'm excited for him i like to

510
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see and i think that it's for me the thing that makes the key on colman pick

511
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more palatable is that you have kurtis amiel and khalil Shakir who are so

512
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dependable who are where they need to be who are technicians with their route

513
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,920
tree and who are speedy after the catch and swiss army knives in any

514
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,600
position on the field so like when you have those two options

515
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you don't need kion to step in and be justin jefferson

516
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,760
dude khalil Shakir is so automatic he's so automatic

517
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,600
it makes you wonder and the only thing i left that game thinking

518
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,880
was like what is the role for dullan concade right like we are all expecting

519
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,280
concade to take this big this big step and him and josh have displayed some

520
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:55,400
really good chemistry and camp but there's only so much ball to go around

521
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and josh has some very tempting weapons i think at each level of the field

522
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it you wonder you wonder if this room and i'm going to include nox and concade

523
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,320
when i say past catcher room you wonder if it's going to be uh

524
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going to be a matchup based thing where we're coming in with a squad that's

525
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weak at the second level they're weak on the roof of the defense

526
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kion run deep mac run deep right um you wonder if they're going to try to

527
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exploit a team with a weak linebacker core with some Shakir and

528
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,960
samuel over the middle right like they're they have the ability to really

529
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play matchup offense on a game-to-game basis in a way they haven't had a

530
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had the ability to in a very long time so it'll be interesting to see listen it

531
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all hinges on the running game getting going of course

532
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so that it can open up some of those parts of the field by forcing defenses to

533
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:53,080
condense but well we'll see how it goes man there there there was hope in that

534
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33 6 shill lacking that i saw on film and i'm what i'm paying trying to pay

535
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attention to for the pittsburgh game is do we see the next evolution of the

536
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,680
wrinkles do we see a little bit more concade in the pittsburgh game

537
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do we see a little bit more of those duo dark tackle wrap combinations off the

538
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offensive line and do we see the timing of the offensive line a little bit

539
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better i think for me those are the things i'm keeping an eye on who's the

540
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next focal point in the past catcher room and do we see the offensive line

541
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able to execute some of those higher end con run gap concepts

542
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that we got so accustomed to at the end of last season yeah well and i think too

543
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that the the kind of the conceptual place of this

544
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pittsburgh game in the preseason kind of the schedule

545
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,160
is interesting because it's the kind of thing where you're probably going to

546
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have your starters play a little bit more they did a shared joint practice

547
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today down in pittsburgh and so if they choose to have their

548
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starters play in this game and not next week this is the game where they're

549
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going to want to like try to install some things

550
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not have a full game plan but rather at least try to like

551
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have some some of the key concepts of the core bread and butter pieces of the

552
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offense that they do in a very vanilla way without the interesting window

553
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dressing of formations and shifts and motions that i think they're probably

554
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going to save for the the full season but rather you know let's get the you

555
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know the proper garden tackles working together on a

556
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couple of combo blocks and things like that that you can only really replicate

557
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in live game settings and so i'm really interesting to

558
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,240
interested to see that too is are we going to have a situation where

559
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they do some more things but it's still pretty basic and i think that's

560
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probably most likely is that it's going to be a still very basic and vanilla

561
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scheme with maybe some additional techniques that we're not on showcase in

562
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the previous game i agree i'll be watching for sure and

563
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we'll be potting about it for sure but jay jay i think that's a good

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place to leave it so for all of you mourning with us and listening to this

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