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Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread podcast.

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I'm your host JJ with me as always is Dan and we are in offseason mode as you are I'm

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sure are aware.

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The NFL honors happened last night.

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We can talk briefly about some of those because they do have impact on some of the bill's

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players.

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But we'll also be getting into some of our offseason stuff.

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On the docket today we have a look back at a fantasy reality where Brandon Bean hits

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on all of the best draft picks and trades.

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We also have a look forward into some of our offseason targets and free agency and some

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places where we hope that maybe the front office at One Bill's Drive will target in

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order to get us ready for the draft because as we know Big Baller Bean doesn't like to

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go into a draft with massive glaring holes that forces hand with his picks.

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How are we feeling Dan?

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Are you ready to get started?

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I'm ready to jump in man.

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I'm so ready for offseason mode.

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It's not even funny at this point.

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What Super Bowl man?

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Give me the draft.

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Just bring it on.

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Bring it all on at this point.

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There's a football game this weekend?

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Listen, I know there's a reason for me to drink bourbon and eat sliders but I wasn't

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sure.

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The reason to drink bourbon and eat sliders is any day that ends in Y my friend.

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We don't need another Patrick Mahome Super Bowl to ring in that occasion.

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But yeah man, let's hit it right off the bat here.

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So I think the way we've got this laid out is a lot of fun.

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So this week, as you said, we're going to take care of free agency targets.

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Next week we're going to start to set the table and the draft knowing that these draft

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priorities that we're aligning with are probably going to change based on what the bills do

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in free agency is limited as their cap space is.

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And then we're going to hit this alternate fantasy draft universe where and I think

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what is inarguably the Brandon Bean lean draft years from 2019 to 2021, we're going

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to revisit those and see if there's not a Super Bowl contender we can pick from the

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memory of those remains.

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It's going to be a lot of fun dude, I'm stoked.

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But why don't we jump right in with free agency?

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So JJ, why don't you set the table for everybody listening here?

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What do you think are going to be the top priorities, the bills target position wise

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and free agency?

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And what are some of the guys you think cap restrictions being the big context they're

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going to target?

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So I believe the really to set the table is four positions.

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It's wide receiver safety, defensive tackle, defensive end.

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So the biggest hole on the bills roster at present is on the defensive line.

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You want to have about eight to 10 guys on your 53 man roster in the tackles and ends

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and the bills currently have I think four or five.

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So Ed Oliver, Greg Russo, Kingsley Jonathan, Cameron Klein, Vaughn Miller and Ely Anku

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are the existing and you may recognize Cameron Klein, Ely Anku, Kingsley Jonathan.

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None of those I would consider kind of tier one starting caliber players at this point

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in their career.

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That doesn't mean they don't have the potential.

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I know we both have liked what we've seen from Kingsley Jonathan.

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We both have liked what we've seen from Ely Anku and different spot starts.

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The bills also like those players because they were pilfered off of the practice squad

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at different times and the bills have made efforts to get them back.

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And so there may be opera expanded snaps there.

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But I was listening, I think it was the cover one guys quantified exactly what the bills

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have lost on the defensive line.

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And it's like 67% of total snaps are currently not under contract from this past year.

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So that is correct.

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So with that snap share missing, they're going to need to do some work.

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So I think defensive line is absolutely a number one.

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The most important need followed by safety and then followed by wide receiver.

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And I think I see wide receiver is fourth because the bills have Stefan Diggs.

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They have Khalil Shakir.

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They have Dalton Kincaid.

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They have James Cook.

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They have at least four premium targets in that, you know, in the skill positions that

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they can work with.

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They just need some role players.

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The problem with wide receiver and I think it also extends to defensive end is for a

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premier starter, you're going to have to pay massive massive 20 plus million per year.

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They do not have that they're negative 53 million.

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They're probably going to get up to positive 20 million, I think with some restructures

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and things we've talked about.

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And so what we're really going into free agency with is a bag of about $10 million that they

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could use because they like to keep 10 or 11 for rookies and in season signings.

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And so what we'll see is probably three or four vet minimum deals and then want maybe

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one big time deal at one of these four positions.

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And so that's kind of where we're at.

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I'm going to start with what I think is the most probably the easiest position to get

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a starter in, in free agency and that's at safety.

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And if you're looking at the roster right now, Jordan poor is under contract.

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They're probably going to ask him to take a pay cut or restructure, probably not wanting

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to restructure given his injury history and age.

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You don't want to push things down the line with him and asking him for a pay cut.

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I think anybody who's paid any attention to his social media over the years since he's

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been a bill knows he's a very prideful man.

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It's unlikely that that conversation would go very well unless they restructured in a

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way where the contract was laden incentives that he could make more money because the

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likelihood of them going with their hand out and being like Joe or Poe, we need money back

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and him already coming into this year disappointed in the way the contracts shook out for him

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in free agency.

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That may not go well.

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But starting there, I think that the reason that we have Poe back is exactly the reason

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that bills can get a starting safety this off season.

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It's an undervalued position.

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It's declined over the years and kind of splash signing.

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So unless you're a top 10 in the league safety, you're not going to break 10 million a year,

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almost invariably.

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And the numbers 11 through probably 25 in the league are going to play between 5 million

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a year and 10 million a year.

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And so I think the bills have enough money to get somebody in that kind of 5 million

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per year deal.

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If they want to plug that hole and have somebody alongside Poe.

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And they really want to have somebody who is a free safety because that's the position

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we're missing right now.

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Poe can play all positions, but his athleticism, he never had elite athleticism, but he's

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taken a step back from that already.

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Anybody who watched the season can tell you he was kind of lagging on some things.

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So they really need a free safety, somebody to patrol the deep middle when they're in

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one high, somebody to kind of cover their half and maybe even help out and shade to

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a two thirds coverage when they split the back end.

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And I see that as here are my here are my targets for that free safety position.

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Alohi Gilman from the Chargers, young safety.

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He's a ballhawk and kind of a punch out specialist.

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He had three, four fundables, two interceptions has had, you know, missing games here and

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there, but is that kind of deep third has sufficient athleticism could be had for probably

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five to seven million per year, get him on a one or two two year deal.

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That's a good that's a good target for me.

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Julian Blackman, a little bit more.

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He's a strong, he's a strong safety in use usage and by title, but I think he has free

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safety chops.

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I think he has the athleticism needed to play that deep third.

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And he's out in Indianapolis.

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He's 25, $6 to $8 million per year.

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The thing I like about Julian Blackman is he's not an elite athlete, but he's got athleticism.

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He is an elite tackler.

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He does not have a high mistackle rate.

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And I think that, you know, Sean McDermott and Bobby Babbage looking at him are going

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to say that's that's a guy that can play the Sean McDermott defense.

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Definitely good and run support definitely comes up.

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And the reason I say he's been played out of position is that he's been kind of strong

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safety pigeonhole for the last couple of seasons playing a lot more down in the box.

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But I think he has the capacity to kind of drop back.

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And so those are kind of that five to seven, five to $8 million.

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Jeremy Chin out of Carolina, safety, no free, no, no strong kind of designation because

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he's, we loved him coming out in the draft a few years back because he's sort of that

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like utility tool can do anything player.

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And has kind of fallen off a little bit, had some injuries, some inconsistent play, but

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I think a reclamation project for sure, maybe on the lower end of five to five to six million.

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And he has some pass rush skills, which I think is is a cool concept here, and especially

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with the way that Sean McDermott has liked to call the defense this past season, seeing

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some DB pass rush.

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So those are my kind of three realistic, my like top top dream signing though is Xavier

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McKinney from the New York Giants.

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He has been great in the box, great in coverage, excellent tackler.

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This is going to be his big, you know, big signing.

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He's only 24.

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And you'll notice a clear definition of my players.

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None of them is over 25 years old.

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Well, I noticed that.

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A little bit of a German and Jeremy Chin are just 26.

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They just turned 26.

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So they were 25.

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When the list that I was looking at were made up, but I was targeting young because I'm

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looking for a two to three year contract.

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So the bills can structure it in a way where they don't have a massive cap hit, but they

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are getting paid and it is incentivized for them to come to Buffalo.

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And so yeah, that's, that's what I see.

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And really in this off season, that's what I would like to, I would like Brandon being

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to get done is to go into the draft knowing you have Poyer on the last year of his deal

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and want and a reasonable starter so that anyone you sign, even if you get a first,

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you know, first round talent, even if you get a Cameron, who's the Cameron kitchens

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kitchens out of my area.

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And you know, they just happen to hire the DB coach from Miami.

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I don't know, strange coincidence.

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So we'll see how that shakes out.

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But even if you get somebody who's kind of a top end talent and let them compete with

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one of these guys, worst case scenario, you have a high end rookie as your third best.

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And best case scenario, you have a high end rookie who beats out Poyer or the, or the other

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signing and then, you know, you're good with depth.

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And I like that strategy going into this year's draft JJ, because this is something that being

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a McDermott haven't done a whole lot of they've really prioritized as we have talked ad nauseam,

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veteran contracts that are for the most part affordable, usually mid tier and up, but they've

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been hesitant to bring in a lot of rookie competition at some of those other positions.

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I would actually like to see them.

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And I think safety is a position that they are more likely to try to strike something

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up in free agency.

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I would still like them to come in on the back end and the draft and also draft a high end

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rookie prospect as well.

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I think it's fine at this stage of where the bills are with their cap.

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If they're investing a little bit of mid tier to lower tier veteran money in a position,

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but if they if they hit the contracts in the right way, they have enough wiggle room to

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get out of a contract after one or two years.

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I still think that leaves them room to bring in a rookie that's under cheaper contract

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contract control at one of these positions.

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Um, this may or may not surprise you.

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I had the exact same top three realistic targets for my safety, my safety picks as well in

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free agency.

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I really like Jeremy Chen.

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To me, this feels like a potential do over that we could could nab him when we coveted

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him in the draft so much.

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His usage in Carolina, especially towards the end of the season, though, became really

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interesting because they really used him more like we started to use Jordan Poyer.

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They used Chen a lot more on the box, but I agree with you.

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I do think he's got some great, um, free safety coverage skills that for whatever reason,

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I don't know if it was injury.

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I don't know if it was the transition yet again that the Panthers went through and coaching

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regimes and all that kind of stuff.

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Chin's usage to me was a duplication of what the bills are doing with Poyer.

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And the caveat I put under signing Chin is if you're going to sign Chin that feels like

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a move you make if you're going to part ways with Poyer, which again, I think I'm comfortable

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with, but but Chin for sure is my guy.

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And JJ, I'm also not against bringing back Taylor Rapp on an affordable contract as well.

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He had that same sort of reputation coming to the bills that he was really more of a

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box safety.

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He really can't play center field like coverage skills are limited, but he really excelled

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in those moments where he had to fill in for Micahide in that very role.

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His versatility to me is enough to give him maybe a two year deal, see if he's willing

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to come back to the team on something that's a little bit cheaper.

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Then you've got a presence coming back that is familiar with the scheme and that really

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frees you up to part ways, I think, hopefully amicably with Jordan Poyer, who again has

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been a warrior for this team, but then address that strong safety chess piece position more

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in the draft because there's going to be kids that we're going to talk about in the draft

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that really would fit well in that mobile versatile piece that they started using Poyer

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in towards the towards the end here.

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Like Cooper Dijon is one of those guys who I've got targeted, Cam Kitchens as well, but

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there's definitely going to be some opportunity that if you bring in rap back on an affordable

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team friendly deal, that gives you some room to play around it, play around with Jordan

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Poyer's replacement for sure.

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And I think kind of one last note, I agree completely on bringing back Taylor Rapp and

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I think that he could provide what you said is continuity to a younger and to a to a new

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free agent addition.

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And I'll kind of close the safety, you know, free agency conversation with this.

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This is the most likely path to a starter in free agency of all the positions we're

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going to talk about.

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Agree.

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Just because of the affordability and the cap situation the bills are for sure.

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Any of the other positions we're talking about, it's going to be hard to get somebody

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who's not a third or fourth best on your roster at the money the bills will have to spend.

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And so I think that we'll move on to, I think we'll move on to wide receiver.

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I've got a few, and this is like the cost is so, you know, but I kind of run through

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them quickly.

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They need two to three bodies just to round out the roster because they like to go into

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training camp with seven or eight, you know, wide receivers.

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They brought KJ Hamler who was really electric out of, was it Penn State or Pitt?

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I can't remember.

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I think it was Pitt.

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Pitt, yeah.

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I'll look it up.

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I want to see those Pitt.

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Yeah.

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So they brought KJ Hamler out of the practice squad as a reserve future signing who was,

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you know, sort of that electric ball in his hands kind of talent who has had a complete

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bust of a NFL career to this point, mostly because of injury, injury issues.

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I think they.

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Penn State.

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Yeah.

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I knew it was one of those two.

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And so fans of the teams he's played for have called him KJ Hamstring because that's

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the problems, a lot of lower body stuff, but we'll see what the bills can get out of him.

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But you know, beyond that, in free agency, again, I targeted younger players.

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I'm going to kind of run through the list.

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Noah Brown out of Houston would be my higher money guy, quality possession style of receiver

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with a little bit of juice and speed had a decent year, especially after Tank Dell went

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down in Houston.

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And so there's one one player, Leviska Chinalt out of Carolina, 25.

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He's probably yours.

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Yeah, you're nodding.

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Yeah, I've got him on my list.

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Yeah.

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And he's got he's in that kind of three to five million per year, maybe up to seven.

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If that Devin DuVernay out of Baltimore, a little bit more money, more proven track record,

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more proven playoff appearances, but a solid guy, definitely a wide receiver three.

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Donovan Peoples Jones, 25 out of Detroit, two to four million per year could be had.

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And again, these are all like your third string.

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You know, we cannot get a wide receiver one or two opposite.

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Yeah.

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T Higgins, Mike Evans, these are not Curtis Samuel.

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I would even put Tyler Boyd in there.

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Tyler Boyd, yeah.

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These are not names that are coming to the bills.

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None of those are coming.

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Yeah.

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And then out of Indy, that's awesome too.

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Michael Pickman, Jr.

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Yeah.

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They're going to tag him though.

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And that's the, again, the caveat around a lot of this.

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Some of these higher end guys, they're going to get the tag, you know, so teams can extend

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that window to renegotiate.

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And then my last one is Nick Westbrook out of Tennessee, 27.

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I said kind of an up and down career can do some things.

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I'm not excited about any of these players like I am the safeties, right?

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Like none of these players I look at if the bills, if the signing shows up tomorrow, I

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don't look at any of these, except for maybe like Noah Brown, Paris Campbell and Levisco

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Chinal and say, I think the bills got, you know, substantially or reasonably better.

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Unless it's one of those three in free agency.

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I think that the path for the Buffalo Bills in the wide receiver room is the draft.

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That's a great draft class.

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Multiple, multiple stabs take two or three in this, in this draft.

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Absolutely.

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And there is not a lot in free agency that is going to be within the bills price range

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that is going to fill the real need that they have, which is like a true X receiver, a guy

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who can line up one on one on the outside opposite of Stefan Diggs, win his matchups

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with routes, speed, winning at the point of catch, body positioning, the whole nine,

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tracking ability.

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They don't have that complete of a wide receiver other than Diggs on the roster right now.

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They've got a lot of guys who can win horizontally.

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And that's what you really have here in the wide receiver free agency class is a lot of

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guys who outside of the top end, we are not talking about Mike Evans, we're not talking

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about T Higgins, Tyler Boyd, any of those guys.

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What you have after that top tier in the drop off is a lot of guys that are duplicating skill

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sets that the bills have.

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So this made this really difficult for me.

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I had Chanel is one of mine.

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I also had.

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Oh, who's the kid?

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Hollywood Brown, Marquis Brown in free agency as well, just for the speed dynamic.

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Just drops.

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I don't want somebody who has more drops than the game.

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Davis.

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I know.

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I know he brings and he it feels like at times he only brings speed to the equation.

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And I get that.

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I get that.

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But the bills need that change of pace.

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I know they've got Andy Isabella still if Hamler is healthy, maybe he can be that.

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But they just need a dude on the field at times.

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The defenses have to respect the ability to take the top off of it.

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And he's going to come in at a contract that I feel like is going to be affordable, flexible

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for the team.

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And to me, he's more of like a let's catch lightning in a bottle with this kid because

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he's still only 26.

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He's going to turn 27 in season and he would come in and immediately be the fastest player

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I think on the bills.

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So I had Chenol, I had Brown and I had Van Jefferson as well.

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Okay.

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Van Jefferson and it's not because of anything I love about Van Jefferson.

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I think he's a very professional wide receiver that does a lot of things good.

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And that is the type of wide receiver.

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I feel like the bills are more likely to target to round out the room than anybody else.

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Out of everybody we named, I feel like Van Jefferson probably has the best shot to actually

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sign a contract with the bills and end up on the team.

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Probably a reasonable contract.

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He's a somewhat larger body, so definitely has some blocking chops.

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Exactly.

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Was he at Chargers?

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He was in, I want to say, he's bounced around a little bit.

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He was with, I think he was with the Rams and then went to the Falcons, I want to say.

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All right, yeah.

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I think you're right.

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Yeah.

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I mean, he's basically, if you don't bring back Scherfield, he is your Trent Scherfield

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replacement and the bills have coveted that body type and that skill set on the roster

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for a really long time.

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Sure.

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Yeah, and I agree.

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I think that's the kind of thing where, you know, that's what we're talking about here

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is like anyone who's like, oh, they need to get Michael Pittman.

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It's just like, that's not in the cards, people.

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It's not.

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Even a Kelvin Ridley is not in the cards.

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Now, here, here is a universe where maybe a Kelvin Ridley or a DJ shark or I would even

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put Kendrick Bourne in that category, where some of those second tier guys that might

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get larger than they deserve paydays, the market for the top end wide receivers, I

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think is going to play out in the 16 to 20 million dollar range.

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I think after that top tier, a lot of teams are really going to consider given the depth

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of the draft class, whether or not it is worth it to splash on a guy like Kendrick Bourne,

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DJ shark, you know, even like a Nelson Aguilar or something like that, right?

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And that might drive the price down of some of those tier two options to maybe the bills

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can splash around with a higher end talent for a more reasonable contract.

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But outside of teams making that decision and the market correcting where the wide receiver

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pay range is right now, I think what we have talked about are probably where the bills

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are going to be in free agency.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And I think that, you know, this is now where I like to say, you know, buckle up, Bills

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Mafia, we're about to get into some really disappointing discourse regarding the defensive

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line.

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This is a hard this is a hard time to beat to need this many defensive linemen, which

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I mean, as we get into draft preview, I know every everyone in Bills Mafia wants bills

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to go wide receiver and round one this year.

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I can tell you the more I think about it, I am almost certain it is not going to happen.

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They're going to go defensive line and that's going to absolutely infuriate Bills Mafia.

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X is going to be just on fire with my hashtag Bills Mafia talk on the first night of the

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draft when at 28, the Buffalo Bills select defensive tackle.

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Devondre Swift or Devondre Sweat out of Texas, 64362.

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Oh, did you see him in this?

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Oh my God.

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He's looking like he's more like three.

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Yeah, like he's closer to 400 than he is 350.

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I saw it.

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I saw him fold the 313 pound person in in half backwards the wrong way.

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Like that man's poor back as he just rolled over him.

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So here's the thing with all the juice that he's got, he's going to go probably.

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So Byron Murphy, the second out of Texas is considered a top 10 talent.

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That's what I really want to fall to us.

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I love that.

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I love that.

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Really?

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Oh, we are going to depart so hard on him.

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I think he's a bum.

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I think he's going to.

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Byron Murphy is a bum.

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I think he's a bum.

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Oh, this is going to be draft time is going to be so much fun.

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I think he's going to be a huge bust.

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You just want to Juan Jones back so bad.

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There it is.

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I do.

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We're going to double depart in this.

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No, I will literally, I will.

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So Juan Jones can, can like literally walk tomorrow if they draft to Vandrey Sweat because

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that dude is, he is like the, he's the reincarnation.

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I know Ted Washington is still alive.

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He's the reincarnation of Ted Washington.

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Who are you killing in the NFL?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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No.

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Oh, this is going to be so much fun.

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Oh my God.

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I love this.

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Anyway, love the D line discourse.

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Go ahead.

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Go ahead.

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So we're going to hit it.

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Um, so anyway, DT will start with defensive tackles.

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Um, I've got it.

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That's really short, man.

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Like, to be honest, when we talk about DT's, you know, DeQuon Jones signing back is probably,

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it's a reasonable contract.

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He, he had an injury riddled season.

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Other teams might see that and his value might go down.

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And in that world, you have somebody who you know plays capably next to Oliver, who looked

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good coming on late in the, in the playoff run.

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He and at Oliver did not have enough push in the KC game.

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Of course, like we've already talked about that.

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I, I, you just desperately need bodies and if you can get somebody who knows the system

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and who you know is a capable starter is liked in the locker room, that's, there's value

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there.

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And that's the only reason I'm talking to Quon Jones is because when you look at the

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whole field, he's one of the youngest players that's within the bill's price range.

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They're getting any younger than DeQuon Jones, unless they're willing to go over $10 million

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a year, um, except for maybe Maurice Hearst.

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So, but he's more of a three tech interior pass rusher and was ranked by a PFF is like

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the 13th best DT with the pass rush.

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So he's a backup Ted Oliver.

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He's not a, you know, he's the Tim Settle role, the Jordan Phillips role.

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He's not a one tech.

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Um, as far as one tech's Shelby Harris and Fletcher Cox, both old, you know, defensive

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tackles.

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I'd rather have Jones back at that point.

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That's what I'm saying.

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End of list.

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I looked through all of the possible contracts and that is my list and DeQuon Jones sits

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strongly at the top, like far and away better than any of them.

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And to find a one tech, I mean, I will say I didn't scour people's practice squads and

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undrafted free agent lists and things like that for like who they, cause they're just

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going to need bodies.

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Correct.

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And, and it, that might be the way that they get it done other than the draft is with somebody

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who's like a practice squad or unsigned player that, you know, is a big body.

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It's like, um, I mean, I don't know if it's Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, somebody on one

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bills live always talks about how the player, the individuals that go six, five, three,

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30 and can move like a cheetah, they don't exist in, you know, on practice squads or

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sitting out there on, on sign lists.

465
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,760
Like they are such unique unicorns that they're on rosters.

466
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,080
And so for the bills to find that, I think it has to be through the draft because it's

467
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,360
just not, you know, it's not, there's nothing out there.

468
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:28,000
I don't know if you found anyone else.

469
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,880
I found some backup worthy guys that I would like to take a shot on.

470
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,760
But again, one tech you're right is absolutely light.

471
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,080
Um, and that's really what we're talking about trying to replace.

472
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,640
If we don't resign Jones, I, I, I'm going to be firm on this though.

473
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:51,320
I really want the bills to address one tech in the draft.

474
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,120
I think there's a lot of the three tech quick first step pass rush guys that make this a

475
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:59,240
deeper than expected defensive tackle draft.

476
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,880
So those one techs are a bit of a unicorn this year in the draft, but there will be

477
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,840
guys within striking distances we get into the draft preview for the bills to go with.

478
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,960
So free agency, I really do just looked more at bodies to fill out the roster similar to

479
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,600
safety so that the bills can bring in a high end rookie with a day one or day two pick

480
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,480
to help challenge for some of those positions.

481
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:28,120
So first off, I've got from the Houston tech Texans.

482
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,800
Um, oh, hang on, I just lost him.

483
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,560
I was about to give him a great intro for a name that probably no one in this, no one

484
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,080
on this pot will know.

485
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,480
Um, Hassan Ridgeway.

486
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,520
So he's 26 right now.

487
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,240
Um, not a purely a backup player for the Houston Texans.

488
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,440
He's 263 305 has some one tech versatility.

489
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,920
They moved him around that line and a purely backup position, limited, limited reps.

490
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:02,120
Um, and he was on, he finished the year, I believe on IR, I want to say.

491
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:07,280
So I think, um, he is someone who's going to be, it was an Achilles tear, I want to

492
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,800
say that happened with him very early on in the season.

493
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:16,200
So he is a cheaper contract one year coming off an injury that you can use as kind of

494
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,000
like a get back, right?

495
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,040
He can have a, a get right year with the bills as long as he is recovering from that injury

496
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,440
and in the right way.

497
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,480
Um, and he's got enough youth.

498
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,160
He's got enough youth in his career to where hopefully, you know, that can happen.

499
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,220
But I think the last game that he recorded a tackle in prior to injury was back in November.

500
00:28:34,220 --> 00:28:37,960
So with the way Achilles are repairing these days, he would be someone who would be back

501
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,120
probably closer to two or three weeks into the start of the season.

502
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,120
Sure.

503
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,960
And then beyond that, it defensive tackle, there wasn't a lot, dude, I'm with you.

504
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,040
Like there's Kevin Givens, right?

505
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,480
Who I kind of had as a maybe on my list out of San Francisco.

506
00:28:54,480 --> 00:29:00,480
Um, again, more of like a three tech, but has some versatility in that San Francisco

507
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,520
scheme, but purely a backup, purely a backup at that point.

508
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,080
So this is a position and then you can go really old if you want to.

509
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,280
You've got John Jacobs out of Las Vegas, right?

510
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:17,320
You've got Jonathan Hankins out of Dallas who's going to be kicking around.

511
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:23,760
I think what is more likely to happen here is that the bills are going to take a shot.

512
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,000
It's someone who on this list, we would consider to be a little bit higher end, maybe like

513
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,640
a Greg Gaines out of Tampa Bay, right?

514
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,300
To kind of solidify some things on the defensive line.

515
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:37,240
But then in the second wave of free agency after the draft, you're going to see them

516
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,080
go after some of these older that minimum contracts.

517
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,920
And I think they're going to do the same thing on edge too, like a Justin Houston type of

518
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,920
deal, right?

519
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,640
So, I mean, it's just tough.

520
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:52,080
It's tough going on the defensive line like DJ Reader, Chris Jones, I would even say

521
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:57,440
Carl Lawson, not not possibilities right now for the bills on the defensive line any way

522
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,440
that you want to cut it.

523
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:05,200
So, um, God, even like a Grover Stewart who is like, if I'm indie, right?

524
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,840
Grover is on indie, right?

525
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,840
He's 30.

526
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:08,840
He's already 30.

527
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,480
No, 10 million a year probably.

528
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,600
Oh, he's going to easily be in the 10 to 12 million dollar range, right?

529
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,400
But it is incredible what some of these guys are going to be pulling down just because

530
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,280
of how light this market is.

531
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,200
And again, this is going to be a draft that's going to be rich in three tech pass rushers.

532
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,240
But if you're looking for that one tech runstopper block eater, you're going to have to strike

533
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,480
early in the draft if you want to secure that position.

534
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:40,440
Probably early though, plug for Murphy, who I know we're going to disagree on in the draft.

535
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,120
He is even at 309.

536
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,960
He is an elite runstopper.

537
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,920
And in the ACC, all those dudes do is run the ball, right?

538
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,240
So I'm just going to I'm just going to say, even though he's not that sweat body type,

539
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,840
he is a dude that can stop the run as and has some pass rush get off as well that I cannot

540
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,520
wait to to help to educate you on.

541
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,040
Yes, we talked about the draft.

542
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,040
We can talk all about that.

543
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,840
We'll talk about all his elite get off and how much of the two games I watched of him

544
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,640
he spent on the freaking ground because he has no contact balance.

545
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,320
Anyway, I can't wait.

546
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,800
Oh my God, this is going to be so much fun.

547
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,800
So it's going to be so much fun.

548
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,800
I can't wait.

549
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:21,360
So with DT, we agree, like as long as the plan, Jones is reasonable, which is always the caveat.

550
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,560
I would prefer for them not to, but I also understand the situation that they're in with

551
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,960
the bodies that they need here.

552
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,360
So I want to overpay for Jones.

553
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,720
No, no, no.

554
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,720
And I'm in the same.

555
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,960
We do agree on that.

556
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,560
Like I do not want to quench Jones for more than $5 million per year.

557
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,280
I think he's earned contract in that range.

558
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,800
Given his experience in this defense, but like anything more than that, I think it's an overpay

559
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,400
and most places have him rated between six and eight million per year.

560
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,280
I'm not paying that for to quench Jones.

561
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,840
If that's what his market bears, somebody else can pay him that.

562
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,400
No, I would rather pay.

563
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,440
Oh God, who's the kid out of?

564
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,720
Who's the kid out of San Francisco?

565
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,720
Yvonne Kinlaw.

566
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,720
Yeah, Yvonne Kinlaw.

567
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,240
Yeah, I'd rather give that kind of money to that kid, right?

568
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,440
At least he's like three years young or five years younger, right?

569
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,880
So if you're going to splash at six or seven a million a year, give it to someone with

570
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,320
a little bit more youth and pop in their step.

571
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,320
For sure.

572
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,320
Yeah, no, I don't disagree with that.

573
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,320
I think that if you're, you know, it's all about the money.

574
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,760
It's all about the value for me.

575
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,760
Yeah, absolutely.

576
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,600
One, one final hard right now.

577
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,600
Yeah.

578
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,840
One final plug for, for Maurice Hearst out of Cleveland, he sort of had a similar track

579
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:36,040
to, to Dequan Jones was like playing a top 10, top 15 level as a penetrating three tech

580
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,840
defensive tackle on that awesome Cleveland defense and probably could be had for two

581
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,920
to $3 million per year, real cheap contract, because he went out with injury after 300

582
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,480
snaps and did not come back.

583
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,680
And so, you know, they had, I think they had to sign Shelby Harris to replace him.

584
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,560
And then ended up, yeah.

585
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,080
And so, and then I mentioned Fletcher Cox out of Philly.

586
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,360
He's a well known name.

587
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,200
He's kind of on the decline in his career, but also would be maybe nine or $10 million

588
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,200
a year.

589
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,160
So like one of those, like we know the name, we know the production, great player don't

590
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,680
know that they have the money for it.

591
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,680
Yeah, agreed.

592
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,680
I agree.

593
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,120
So you want to talk, you want to talk about it.

594
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,200
Let's wrap up the, the free agent and there's certainly other positions, right?

595
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,280
There's tackle linebacker, I think center is, is a consideration in the off season, depending

596
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,280
on Mitch Morse.

597
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,080
The Mitch Morse question is one that we're really going to dig into when we talk about

598
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,560
salary cap.

599
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,280
But we'll talk about that, you know, in a future episode, because we're going to finish

600
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,320
with free agency for this episode with the defensive end.

601
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,760
Again, they need bodies.

602
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,920
They have Groot, Von Miller and Cameron Klein, Kingsley Jonathan.

603
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,760
So they have four DEs, but I would consider one of them starting caliber.

604
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,760
And then Von is probably a three, like he's probably your third best at this point in

605
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,760
time.

606
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,480
We'll see what we'll kind of Von we get after a full off season to recover.

607
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,760
But I, I'm worried he's never coming back.

608
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,880
And well, and, and I assume you're starting caliber guys, Groot, right?

609
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,360
Greg Russo and I, well, he's a two.

610
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,360
Right.

611
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,360
I mean, that's the thing.

612
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,360
You don't want him to be your bet.

613
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,760
He is an elite run stopper.

614
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:14,320
That dude, I would put him probably in the top five, even top three of edge run stoppers.

615
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,600
But the combination of his lower body injuries and the frame that he is packing.

616
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,880
I mean, I don't want to put the tag injury prone on Groot just yet, but if he is your

617
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:30,440
number one pass rush option on any roster, I think you are a team that, that is needs

618
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,640
to really retool that.

619
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,400
That does not sack the quarterback without linebackers.

620
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,400
Exactly.

621
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,400
Exactly.

622
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,400
So, yeah.

623
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,400
Yeah.

624
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,920
Why don't you go with your names?

625
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,760
Because, because I've said my names and you're like, yep, I got that one.

626
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,760
Yep.

627
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,760
I got that one.

628
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,760
Why don't you lead me with your list?

629
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,840
No, I'm good with it because I'll, I'll be honest with you.

630
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,920
My list is AJ Epineza and that's it.

631
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:57,240
So and reason why is I am hopeful that he will resign with the bills.

632
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:04,680
I think he's a guy that you want on this unit to add pop and depth in the pass rush game.

633
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,720
Because I think it, because we are talking first wave free agency.

634
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:19,280
I do not believe that there is anybody that can ascend to that like 40%, 50% snap share

635
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:24,600
at the edge position with Miller and with Russo outside of Epineza that would be in

636
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,080
the bills price range.

637
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,080
I think they go shopping for like, Morgan bin at that point.

638
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,320
Like, you know, like some of these guys that are have come out of like three, four defenses,

639
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,120
that might be able to play a little bit in a four, three scheme, like a Zach bond out

640
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,120
of New Orleans.

641
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:46,760
I had as like a maybe in the first wave because the contracts probably only going to be two,

642
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,120
maybe three million a year for somebody like him.

643
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,160
But outside of that, in AJ Epineza, I don't have a lot.

644
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,920
I think the bills, like they did with Floyd last year, they're going to hit wave two of

645
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:03,200
free agency after the draft and they're going to go veteran seeking for the edge this year.

646
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,080
And I think they're going to, they've got a lot of picks in this year's draft.

647
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,800
I think wide receiver is a double dip.

648
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,600
I think I just probably a double dip for them too.

649
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,720
Just may it work out better than the Basham Russo double dip of 2021.

650
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:16,720
Yeah.

651
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:17,720
Yeah.

652
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:22,920
You spent a first round pick and you got a top, an elite run defender with very limited

653
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,560
pass rush juice as injury problems.

654
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,560
Yeah.

655
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,240
I mean, that's the thing, the frame dude, like-

656
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:29,560
And the throw away.

657
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:30,560
Yeah.

658
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,720
I mean, it's just the frame.

659
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,920
The injuries are lower body.

660
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:42,080
So for a guy with that frame trying to keep it up, rep after rep, like lower body injuries

661
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,480
are usually a sign of bad things to come.

662
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,480
Yeah.

663
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,480
Yeah.

664
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:53,040
So I've actually only got one other younger edge who I would consider possible because

665
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,920
he's probably going to be around the same money.

666
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,160
If you're priced out of AJ Epineza, you might be able to get Andrew Van Ginkl for a little

667
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,160
cheaper.

668
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,160
Yeah.

669
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,160
Yeah.

670
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,120
So we played against him with Miami.

671
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:09,920
He was always in Josh Allen's face when he was on the field.

672
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,040
Juice pass rusher on the edge who gets absolutely bullied on rundowns.

673
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,440
So that's the problem.

674
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:24,000
You're looking at Andrew Van Ginkl as almost like a hybrid OLB DE who is a situational

675
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,680
pass rusher.

676
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,320
And so you're not going to have- he's not taking a bite out of that 67% snap share that

677
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,360
they lost at edge.

678
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,560
That's significant enough to really make any kind of difference, especially if you're

679
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,040
paying more than three or $4 million a year for him.

680
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,240
And so, and he's young enough that somebody might pay him three years, six million, right?

681
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,240
Yeah.

682
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,240
Absolutely.

683
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:49,040
I do have, you know, Leonard Floyd, I think is a consideration depending on his money.

684
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,320
I think that his market, given how he kind of disappeared in the latter stages of the

685
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,480
season, his market might dip a little.

686
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:01,680
And if they are bargain shopping and he's sitting out there after the draft, you know,

687
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,440
if he's still out there after the draft pre-training camp, it might be somebody to say, hey, you

688
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,480
want to come in for two million, you know?

689
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,480
But we'll see.

690
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,480
He had another 10 sack plus season.

691
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:16,040
So there's always people, there's always money out there for somebody who gets 10 sacks.

692
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,040
So we'll see.

693
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,640
What do you think of, because this guy's hopped around a little bit too.

694
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,400
I mean, what do you think of Cleveland Feral taking a flyer on that dude?

695
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,400
Like, I know-

696
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,200
Wasn't he like picked fourth overall?

697
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:33,760
He was fourth overall by the Raiders, overdrafted, not coached well, moved on to San Francisco,

698
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,320
no idea what interest San Francisco has in resigning him at this point.

699
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,120
But I mean, he's got the draft pedigree.

700
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,800
He's a kid entering his prime.

701
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:50,240
If you're going to lose Epineza, he almost immediately replaces that body type.

702
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:51,480
He is a project.

703
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,480
Don't get me wrong.

704
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,800
He's a reclamation project to some extent, but he's played better in the scheme that

705
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,080
San Francisco runs, which is very similar to the scheme that McDormitt wants to run

706
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,320
to.

707
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,960
I don't know what his market is going to look like, but do we take a reclamation project

708
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:12,440
like that and bank on the pedigree and add a little bit of youth to that room?

709
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,160
I think, you know, I always cop out with this on this pod if the money's right.

710
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,160
Yeah, I know.

711
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,280
That's the caveat on all of this.

712
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,560
Because the thing is, like, for some reason, the way the league is structured, the way

713
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,600
the league works, being picked fourth overall is worth more money.

714
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,280
You know, like it just is.

715
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,240
Even late in your career, even when you're a clear draft bust, considering what you've

716
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:39,120
done so far, sometimes it equals more money because you do have some of those elite measurables.

717
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,120
And so you can market them around to teams.

718
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,480
If the money's right, sure.

719
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,840
I would say that only if the money, it only fits like a minimum, vet minimum, or slightly

720
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,840
over a vet minimum deal because, and here's a big thing, one of the biggest worries I

721
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,200
have for this offseason is with the massive turnover at defensive tackle and defensive

722
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:02,280
end, they don't have Eric Washington anymore, who I think is an excellent defensive line

723
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,520
coach.

724
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,080
He left for Chicago and he took people with him.

725
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:11,200
And so I worry about that room and they just signed, I forget who they just signed to the

726
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,680
defensive line coach position, but they have a new coach there.

727
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,600
We'll look that up for a future pod and talk about the soft season and training and those

728
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,280
sorts of things.

729
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:25,680
But it's the kind of thing where we knew the defensive line room was pretty strong with

730
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,240
coaching, pretty strong with talent development.

731
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,000
We don't know that for sure now.

732
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,480
So projects kind of scare me a little bit, especially if there's any money involved.

733
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,680
Yeah.

734
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,640
It's almost got to be a defensive line, like a money ball approach.

735
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,880
And I think you set it up perfectly.

736
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,560
The percentage of snaps they need to replace.

737
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,600
They need to bring in guys that can, yes, you want production.

738
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,600
You want forced fumbles.

739
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,600
You want sacks.

740
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,440
You want high tackle rates.

741
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,080
You want all those things, right?

742
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:58,360
But you also just need to fill a snap share in a free agent market that is down this

743
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,360
year.

744
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,720
So here's the argument for a guy like Farrell, right?

745
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:07,160
He's 26, going to be 27 next year, has the draft pedigree of number one of a round one

746
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:13,720
pick arguably had probably his best season of his career, maybe safer like his rookie

747
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:19,920
year, which was also not great, three and a half sacks on a 45% snap share for San Francisco.

748
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:27,360
So played 465 snaps this year, 15 solo tackles, 13 assisted tackles and one forced fumble.

749
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:34,000
I would take those numbers from a guy in a situational role that we were paying $3.5

750
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,640
to $4 million a year for, right?

751
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,120
Yeah, for sure.

752
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,360
And I think that, you know, for, like I said, if we're going bargain shopping, you know,

753
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,920
DJ Wanham, probably four or less million per year out of Minnesota, right?

754
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,920
Young 26, somebody you could kind of take a fly around me like, we're going to give

755
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:56,960
you 20% of the 30% of the snaps, you know, and you're a player that he's a 65, 258.

756
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,960
So he's like the bills, the bills have an archetype at edge.

757
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:00,960
And that's it.

758
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,880
Von Miller was kind of an, that was a departure.

759
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,200
I would also see, you know, Andrew Van Ginkel as a massive departure at edge for the bills

760
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:13,240
because they, they like a, somebody plus two, 250 or more, who's six, four or taller because

761
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:16,040
they want to set the edge with that wingspan.

762
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:22,240
And so I see, you know, Anthony Jennings for five or million less, formerly of the Patriots,

763
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:29,600
26, DJ Wanham, Darnell Taylor from Seattle as a possibility, six, four, two, 50, you

764
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:35,440
know, like they're all kind of, but none of them are going to provide you anything extremely,

765
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:41,360
you know, going to provide you upside really like, like somebody like Taekwondo Lewis out

766
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,360
of Indianapolis, somebody I really like, if the bills are willing to spend six million

767
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,560
on somebody and they lose, they don't have AJ coming back.

768
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:55,800
Taekwondo Lewis is a 63, 260, 270, and he has been well rated in terms of pass rush

769
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,880
and run stopping.

770
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,240
So those are some names to think about as we go.

771
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:05,280
Anything else about the defensive end, you could also maybe get some of that minimum

772
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,560
deals on some like extremely old names that you might recognize like Kalaise Campbell,

773
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,400
Brandon Graham, they're probably both going to be less than three million, but somebody

774
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,920
who's who you know, knows what to do.

775
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:17,920
Right.

776
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,400
And these are exactly the type of guys who after the draft will be unsigned and this

777
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,120
is when Brandon Bain will come knocking.

778
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,160
Like do you want to take a flyer for two and a half million on a one year, right?

779
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,080
And play with a competitor because that's the other thing is that the bills have a

780
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,640
carrot in the free agency pool that they never had through the drought, which is do you want

781
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,560
to play with a team that's going to be there in the last eight of the season?

782
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:41,560
Exactly.

783
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,560
Exactly, for sure.

784
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,560
Yeah.

785
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,560
So we'll see.

786
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,600
And there are guys that will absolutely do that.

787
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,520
And these veteran dudes like Leonard Floyd, Campbell, they want to pick their spots.

788
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,000
They want to get paid, but they want to pick their spots also at the stage of the career.

789
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,280
They don't want to waste the limited amount of years they have like not contending.

790
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,280
They're ring chasing.

791
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,280
Exactly.

792
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,280
Exactly.

793
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,080
So if Kansas City or San Francisco doesn't call, then the bills are probably up there.

794
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,080
There you go.

795
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,080
It's got to be, right?

796
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,080
It's got to be.

797
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,080
Yeah, absolutely.

798
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,080
Yeah, man.

799
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,520
No, it's going to be, it's probably going to be an uneventful.

800
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,120
I'd love to be surprised, but it's going to be an uneventful free agency for the bills.

801
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,920
They're going to stabilize some rooms, raise the floor talent wise in some of these rooms,

802
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,400
but no big splashes, no big splashes this off season, I think.

803
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,560
All right, man.

804
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,440
You want to transition to our alternate draft universe?

805
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,160
Yes, absolutely.

806
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:39,000
So just to give folks an idea of where JJ and I have been at with draft prep.

807
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,400
I am an anti-mock draft guy until free agency hits.

808
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:47,080
I just don't think there's a lot of utility in doing them because free agency is going

809
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:52,760
to reset so many needs for so many teams to where all of these mock drafts that we're

810
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,440
seeing on the athletic and the ringer and ESPN, they're going to change wildly based

811
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,760
off of that.

812
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,080
So in my draft prep, I started going through what the bills needs were going to be this

813
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:09,040
year, try to like extrapolate where I thought the, their actual needs in the draft would

814
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,600
land after free agency.

815
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,000
And then it just got me thinking because I was going back and I was looking at the holes

816
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,360
on the roster.

817
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,120
And this whole experiment started with, why haven't we been drafting more defensive tackles

818
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,640
outside of that Oliver?

819
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,160
And this whole thing JJ started with that text that I sent you that we hadn't drafted

820
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,000
a defensive tackle to this unit since at Oliver.

821
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,600
And then I started pulling other playoff contenders, the chiefs in that same time span had drafted

822
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,400
five, the Steelers had drafted seven, right?

823
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,240
The Eagles had drafted four.

824
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:42,760
I'm like, what was going on with the bills?

825
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,840
And then I started looking back at some of their draft history.

826
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:54,800
And I think JJ, you and other members of Bill's mafia would agree that 2019 to 2021 were maybe

827
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,480
the leanest draft years in the Brandon being era.

828
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,760
17 was before being got there, but that was McDermott's first full draft and his fingerprints

829
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,360
were all over that 18, I think an indisputable hit.

830
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:13,240
I think 22 and 23, the bills got some viable starters out of those two drafts, but that

831
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:21,440
three year gap where the bills were spending on mid tier to higher priced free agency talent.

832
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:26,760
I just couldn't wrap my brain around why so many needs that we have now were not addressed

833
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,000
back then.

834
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,920
So I went back and I looked to 2019 and 2021 and I decided to do an experiment.

835
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,480
I decided to do the Brandon being alternate draft universe.

836
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,280
Here are the rules that went with that.

837
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,240
This is not a typical, let's go back and redraft everybody from the year because you're starting

838
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:50,400
to see a lot of those come up with the 2023 draft class and everyone who has Pukinakua

839
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,520
is like the number four pick.

840
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,240
That's not realistic, right?

841
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:58,880
Of course with full hindsight, we know Pukinakua probably goes in the first round.

842
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,840
If we know the type of production he has this year.

843
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,760
So I tried to limit hindsight as much as I possibly could.

844
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:13,360
So when I went and redrafted, I stayed within the round that players were picked in.

845
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:19,040
So if I picked a player that was different than what being picked as part of this experiment,

846
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,600
I picked another guy who was taken in that round after the player being really drafted

847
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,760
was taken.

848
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,360
And I did that because like at that point, there was usually a lot of consensus on boards

849
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,880
of where of where guys fit within the draft rounds.

850
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:39,960
And I wanted to stick with that reality at the time as much as as much as I possibly could.

851
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,440
This also assumes a couple of things.

852
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:47,320
One, Josh Allen still ascends on the way that he ascended still has his breakout year in

853
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,320
2020.

854
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:54,280
And this also assumes that Sean McDermott all of a sudden became willing to play rookies.

855
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,080
Which is the biggest assumption out of this whole thing.

856
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,840
But it was a really fun exercise to do this alternate draft universe.

857
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,720
And you can see how if just a couple of things went differently, how this sets up the bills

858
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:09,920
roster in such a different way right now.

859
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:17,480
So JJ, are you ready to go through 2019, 2020 and 2021, the alternate bills draft universe?

860
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,960
Let's jump in our alternate universe machine and make it happen.

861
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,960
All right, man.

862
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,640
So 2019, round one, the pick was at Oliver at defensive tackle.

863
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,840
I didn't change it.

864
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,640
I think and especially moving on and moving forward, where you see where the bills were

865
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:36,440
slotted to draft year after year, there were not a lot of viable defensive tackle pieces

866
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,280
that they could have drafted to supplement Oliver at that point.

867
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:45,760
So I keep Oliver here at defensive tackle, knowing that later on down the road, it's

868
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,640
going to be harder and harder to draft for that three tech position.

869
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:55,800
Round two, 2019, Cody Ford, your favorite offensive tackle slash offensive guard ever

870
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,280
selected in Bill's history.

871
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:03,120
I don't even want to talk about Cody Ford, he was like, I don't, I mean, I probably would

872
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,880
have drafted him in the second round too, but it's the kind of thing where somebody

873
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,520
sometimes traits don't equal talent or work ethic, right?

874
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,880
Like sometimes they say the right things in the interviews and make you believe and then

875
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,120
get them in the facility and they're always injured or they just don't ever take that

876
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,120
step.

877
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,120
Yep.

878
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,120
Yep.

879
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,120
Absolutely.

880
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,240
We might be seeing some of that with Kyre Elam based on some of his tweets and posts

881
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:26,240
recently.

882
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,120
So here's the pick that I make here.

883
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:33,680
I do it with the philosophy of you are the bills, you've got this rookie QB, yes, and

884
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,360
free agency at this point, you've already professionalized the wide receiver room.

885
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:42,640
You've got Colbeasley, you've got John Brown, you're bringing in reliable targets for him.

886
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:48,320
But I decided here that the move was to go wide receiver and I go AJ Brown.

887
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:53,420
For those of you who don't remember AJ Brown's rookie season, he was a man on fire with Tennessee.

888
00:49:53,420 --> 00:49:59,040
He had over a thousand receiving yards and eight TDs on about 85 perceptions in his first

889
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,640
year with Tennessee.

890
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:06,440
This gives Josh Allen a young number one wide receiver target that also resets the domino

891
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,440
line as a result of that for how the bills would approach future drafts in this alternate

892
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,080
draft scenario.

893
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,160
Round three, Devin Singletary was the real pick.

894
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,200
I stuck with Singletary, like the bills needed to do something in the running back room.

895
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:25,200
In round three, there was nothing better between there and when the bills made their next pick,

896
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,800
which was in 2019 Dawson Knox.

897
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:32,160
This might be the most controversial move that I made because philosophically at the

898
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:39,520
time, the book on young QBs is that they needed a big tight end to chew up perceptions in

899
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,400
the middle of the field to give them a safety net.

900
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,920
After bringing in Brown and Beasley and free agency, the bills were looking for that safety

901
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:48,920
net in 2019.

902
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:54,200
They decided to draft Dawson Knox, someone who could grow up potentially as a pass catcher

903
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,200
with Josh Allen.

904
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,800
I didn't do that.

905
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,480
I went with Conor McGovern, the current Conor McGovern, who is on the team, thinking to

906
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:06,600
the future with a lot of veteran laden pieces on this offensive line that they needed to

907
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,600
add a little bit of youth at that point.

908
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,720
So I go Conor McGovern on the offensive line.

909
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:13,920
Any notes for me so far, JJ?

910
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:20,800
No, I love it, and I think that part of the part of the hatred on Dawson Knox is that

911
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:26,360
his contract at $14 million per year hit is so much higher than his product productivity.

912
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,280
And he's got he's had drops and he's been injured.

913
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,520
He still don't think he's a bad tight end.

914
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,040
I think he's a tight end, but he's definitely not worth the money.

915
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,040
And he's been a pretty massive disappointment on his availability.

916
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,160
Yeah, I don't disagree with that.

917
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,280
I love that you've kept Oliver on Singletary because I think you're right.

918
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,560
To be true to this experiment, you have to kind of stay in the mind state of that roster

919
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,200
at that time.

920
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,480
And they had a top 10 or top 11 pick for Oliver.

921
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,640
And yeah, he was number nine.

922
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,640
Yeah, number nine.

923
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:59,880
And they did need a young running back because the only person in the room after they let

924
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,640
go of LaShawn McCoy was Frank Gore.

925
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:03,960
So they needed somebody.

926
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,880
They needed to reset the table there and going young makes a lot of makes a lot of sense as

927
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,960
opposed to sinking cap into a vet.

928
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,760
I think you're never ever ever going to get any sort of opposition from me for picking

929
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,280
offensive line on the first four rounds.

930
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,400
I know you're you're going to love these future drafts.

931
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,240
Then let me tell you, you're going to love it.

932
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,240
All right.

933
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:22,520
So round four bills don't have a pick in round four and 2019.

934
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,320
We move on round five.

935
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:30,040
The actual pick Voshawn Joseph, who I had to look up who this was outside linebacker.

936
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,800
The bills, the bills as you look at their real draft history have drafted a lot of linebackers

937
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,960
cheating, they've drafted more linebackers than offensive linemen and wide receivers under

938
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:40,960
beans tenure.

939
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,720
Well, you know, because you're a you're part of an organization that drafted Luke Keekley.

940
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:46,720
Yeah, I know.

941
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:49,520
So you just like have this you just have you're like they can fix everything.

942
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,840
If I have this one piece, they can fix the defense completely.

943
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,880
I mean, Iber Iberfluss and Iberfluss in Chicago is the same way.

944
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,920
They have signed and drafted a ton of linebackers, right?

945
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,440
Like a lot of these coaches, they love that position.

946
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,120
So here's where I do a double dip and I go wide receiver again.

947
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:11,360
You keep in mind you've got Cole Beasley on the roster, but you know, he's now a veteran

948
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:17,080
with a skill set that was very, I think beneficial for Allen at that moment.

949
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,120
But you're going to double down in this round.

950
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,160
You're going to go Hunter Renfrow.

951
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:26,800
Now Renfrow I know had a dip in production this year and his stay under McDaniels with

952
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,760
the Raiders was a little bit odd.

953
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,240
His usage went down.

954
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:35,480
But I think we all remember Hunter Renfrow was an absolute beast and reception magnet

955
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,800
from 2019 all the way through 2021.

956
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,720
It's only in these past couple of years when Daniels took over the Raiders that his production

957
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,200
really dipped off.

958
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:50,800
So I give the bills a hedge with John Brown by drafting AJ Brown and some competition

959
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,520
in the slot with Hunter Renfrow, an elite route runner who is a very, very good catcher

960
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,840
of the football, which is something the bills have really lacked.

961
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,720
Jekwan Johnson, the safety pick in round six.

962
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:04,800
Here's where I go linebacker for the bills and I take David Long, Jr.

963
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,440
And I was shocked because this dude has a became a quality starter in the league, right?

964
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,840
But he was a six round draft pick.

965
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,600
So I've got him backing up Matt Milano on the depth chart.

966
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:16,600
Amazing.

967
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,600
It's a just incredible.

968
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:18,600
Fringe Pro Bowler, yeah.

969
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:19,600
Absolutely.

970
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,120
An elite in the run stopping game, which in that nickel package you really need.

971
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,960
So Daryl Johnston, Jr. is the pick in round seven.

972
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,680
I go miles Gaskin and I double dip here into running back as well because as we have said,

973
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,640
after McCoy departs, they really got to restock that room.

974
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:38,320
And Gaskin has had a lot of success catching balls out of the backfield.

975
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,480
And then the final pick in 2019 was Tommy Sweeney.

976
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,320
I kept it to Tommy Sweeney because you need a tight end.

977
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,520
I wouldn't have double dipped a tight end in this particular draft, but taking a tight

978
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,280
end here in round seven makes sense.

979
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,280
All right.

980
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,920
And how does this, in your imagination, how does this all shake out for the season then?

981
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:59,840
I think AJ Brown has an absolute monster rookie season still.

982
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:05,000
And I think he gives Josh Allen a safety blanket deep down the field.

983
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,760
He immediately starts taking the top off defenses because remember in 2019, no one thought Josh

984
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,800
could throw the ball with any kind of accuracy.

985
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,560
So they were begging, they were begging the bills to like go deep and take those shots

986
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,640
that they thought Allen was going to miss.

987
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,680
Brown, similar to the role that Diggs played, was an equalizer deep down the field.

988
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,440
You saw it in Tennessee with Ryan Sanahill to get a thought over a thousand yards on

989
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:37,560
just 85 receptions and a reception average of 20 yards per reception in his rookie season,

990
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,200
absolutely out of his mind, right?

991
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,720
So this resets the table at wide receiver.

992
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:49,200
John Brown becomes a cap casualty and you see Hunter Renfrow very slowly start to take

993
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:54,640
snaps away from Cole Beasley and assert himself as a very, very cheap rookie contract.

994
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,680
They can equal the productivity there.

995
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:01,400
And then the defense is really buoyed by Trey White, who still emerges as a star at this

996
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,120
time, Matt Milano, who makes a name for himself.

997
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,440
Taryn Johnson also emerges this season as well.

998
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,880
But then on top of that, you've got this depth to the defense you've added and you've got

999
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,280
a young and up and coming offensive linemen in McGovern that you can kind of work into

1000
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,920
your system early on without putting pressure on him to start right away.

1001
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,360
So this is a table setting year for the bills, right?

1002
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,960
I still have them making the playoffs in my fantasy world.

1003
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,240
I still have them losing, right?

1004
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:32,000
And I have them trying to find a way to find more receptions across the middle of the field

1005
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:37,000
as a result of how the season ends for them, which brings us to my friend 2020.

1006
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,600
Are you ready to move on?

1007
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,240
I am scintillating.

1008
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:41,240
All right.

1009
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:42,360
So this is a big one.

1010
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:47,560
And I think other than the docks thing, the knocks thing, this is going to be seen as

1011
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,880
maybe the second most controversial move, though I think a lot of bills mafia would probably

1012
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,440
at this point support it.

1013
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,800
So remember the Buffalo Bills do not have a number one wide receiver for Josh Allen

1014
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,520
in real life at this point.

1015
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,200
This is the year they trade a number one draft pick for Stefan Diggs that ends up being

1016
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,360
the number 22 draft pick.

1017
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:09,680
In my world, AJ Brown has emerged as the clear young stud number one wide receiver on the

1018
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:10,680
screw.

1019
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:17,320
So the bills retain that pick in this draft and they use it at number 22 to draft Justin

1020
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,200
Jefferson at LSU.

1021
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,200
All right.

1022
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,160
So now here is your pairing and here's how the wide receiver room is starting to shake

1023
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,840
out in your top four.

1024
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:31,640
You've got AJ Brown, Justin Jefferson, Cole Beasley and Hunter Renfrow in the slot.

1025
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:36,280
And you still have a little bit of a void and like that power slot middle of the field

1026
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,000
tight end type of role, but we'll address that later in the draft.

1027
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,840
Number two, the bills, which was their first pick in 2020, take AJ Epinezza.

1028
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,160
I keep the pick the same pick up and as a because when you look at where they were at

1029
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,440
on the defensive line, they needed youth, they needed pop, they need past rush viability

1030
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,440
there.

1031
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,880
So I keep Epinezza at that point.

1032
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,240
All right.

1033
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,680
Round three, this is the Zach Moss deal because they drafted two running backs in the year

1034
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,960
prior with Gaskin and Singletary.

1035
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:06,680
I don't have them spending a round three pick here with Moss because it would be a bad use

1036
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:07,680
of the pick.

1037
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,760
I have them instead taking Cam Danzler, who is the highly effective cover corner for

1038
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,520
Minnesota for so many years at this point.

1039
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:20,960
But JJ Danzler is a guy who you've often targeted for the bills and trade packages.

1040
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:26,120
What is your take on Danzler being drafted by the bills as a rook in 2020?

1041
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:32,440
I mean, it would have fixed kind of what we talked about so often with the bills having

1042
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,640
that like CB2 always being a question mark and always being somebody who is like just

1043
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,240
good enough.

1044
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:45,760
The Dane Jackson's of the world, it would solve for a lot of things.

1045
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,760
The Levi Wallace conundrum.

1046
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,280
Yeah, the Levi Wallace conundrum.

1047
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:49,280
Exactly.

1048
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,440
Like, this is a player that's good enough, but are they good?

1049
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:56,920
No, Danzler has an incredible ball skills and also just that nose for the football.

1050
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,920
Danzler reminds me a lot of Russell Douglas and the way that he plays the game.

1051
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:08,400
It would have elevated and escalated kind of the bills achievement to have Trey White

1052
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,120
across from Cam Danzler.

1053
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,920
And it would have changed some of the variability of not this past season, but the one prior

1054
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,680
when Trey White was coming back from injury or the one before that when he was down with

1055
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,680
injury.

1056
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,560
I think there's a lot more positive outcomes if you have Cam Danzler out there as a young

1057
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:28,960
corner to take over those sort of CB1 roles when you're down your Trey White.

1058
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:29,960
Yep, absolutely.

1059
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:30,960
100%.

1060
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,840
Round four, the bills in 2020 take Gabe Davis.

1061
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,320
I kept the pick here the same.

1062
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,640
There wasn't anyone at a position of need to me that was better.

1063
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:46,080
And Davis added something to this wide receiver room in his size, run blocking ability.

1064
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,800
And then in my fantasy world, his ability to exploit the middle of the field is kind

1065
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,560
of like a de facto big bodied pass catcher that I think brought utility and filled a

1066
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,040
hole here and like a power slot role for the Buffalo Bills.

1067
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,120
Round five, Jake Fromm QB out of Georgia, right?

1068
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,520
He was Georgia, I think.

1069
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:04,520
Yeah.

1070
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:05,520
Kept the pick the same.

1071
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,720
And no one here that was really better for me.

1072
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,680
Round six, Tyler Bass.

1073
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,200
I know we're so sore about it, but Tyler Bass for the most part has been a really good

1074
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,000
kicker outside of the season for the Bills.

1075
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,560
They needed that special teams pop.

1076
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,440
I keep the pick the same here.

1077
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:25,520
Isaiah Hodgins is the wide receiver pick in 2020 in round six.

1078
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,800
Because I have taken Jefferson and Gabe Davis, I don't triple dip here.

1079
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,520
I go corner again.

1080
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:39,360
I go, Isaiah Rogers, the undersized, but strong and fierce and speedy DB that made the Bills

1081
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:44,320
that made Bills lives fans hell when they would play Indianapolis, which is the team

1082
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,360
he was ultimately drafted to.

1083
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:52,280
So Isaiah Rogers here is interesting, JJ, because he is small in frame, but his speed

1084
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,680
makes him a viable outside option.

1085
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,360
And he has an absolute ballhawk.

1086
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,640
This dude is like a pick every time the ball gets thrown his way.

1087
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:05,920
So I take him who excuse me, in addition to Dancer and all of a sudden you see how this

1088
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,320
cornerback room is is is kind of detailing out.

1089
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:17,680
And then finally around seven and 2020, Dane Jackson, because we have taken Rogers and because

1090
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:23,840
we have taken Dancer at this point, I go linebacker again, I go inside linebacker this time with

1091
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,880
Tay Crowder, who is a ultimately productive sort of pro and in the Bills system could

1092
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,960
be interesting for sure.

1093
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,800
So JJ, after the Bills have that draft in pocket, we head into the 2020 season.

1094
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:44,720
Now, remember, in 2020, the Bills and Josh Allen have that weird COVID breakout year.

1095
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,680
Fans are not necessarily in the stadium, but Josh Allen really a sense.

1096
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,920
Now he does so with Stefan Diggs being on the roster.

1097
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,400
This is also the year remember that Milano gets hurt.

1098
01:01:55,400 --> 01:02:00,040
From Milano, I think we only got seven games on him that year, which really, really hurt

1099
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,800
this Buffalo Bills defense.

1100
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:08,520
Flash forward to fantasy land, where the Buffalo Bills have a duo of Justin Jefferson, who

1101
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:13,920
in his rookie season, I just want to remind everybody how much of a baller he was in 2020.

1102
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:21,960
1400 total yards on 88 receptions for an average reception yardage of 15.9 yards, longest reception

1103
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:28,680
being 71 yards, and he had seven toties that season put next to AJ Brown, who in his second

1104
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:34,400
year with Tennessee in the real world had over 1200 yards and 11 receptions on the outside.

1105
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:39,440
JJ, this is a this is as dynamic a duo as the Bills have ever had in their history,

1106
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,760
right in fantasy land again.

1107
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,920
I also have Josh Allen still having his breakout season with these two winning the MVP.

1108
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:52,440
Cole Beasley, because of his COVID controversies and his cap number ultimately gets replaced

1109
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,760
by Hunter Renfrow here, still trying to stick to reality as much as possible.

1110
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:02,120
Milano goes down so David Long Jr. starts to emerge as a very solid starter in place

1111
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,400
of him, but it's still not enough for the Bills and the AFC Championship round against

1112
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,680
the Chiefs because they're so vulnerable in the middle of the field.

1113
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:15,800
And you've got Cam Danceler who had just replaced Levi Wallace in my world later on in the season,

1114
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,040
still kind of taken his reps in.

1115
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,840
The Buffalo Bills will ultimately lose this game in an epic shootout against the Kansas

1116
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:28,200
City Chiefs and the AFC Championship in the end of the 2020 season.

1117
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:33,440
But this is the year this accelerates the clock on the Bills going all in.

1118
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,960
Because remember, the Bills really didn't go all in with that Von Miller with that Von

1119
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:41,680
Miller signing until after the 13 second game, right?

1120
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:46,320
Because of how this draft has fallen and the youth in production they've been able to establish

1121
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:51,960
on the roster, they are ready to crack that Super Bowl window wide open on Fantasyland,

1122
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,000
which brings us to 2021.

1123
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:59,600
Now JJ, we all remember this as the boogie bash on Greg Russo doubled it.

1124
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:00,600
Hold on.

1125
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:06,200
I would like to just say for the listeners, this entire long experiment was done to get

1126
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,920
us to this one moment and what happens in the second round.

1127
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:09,920
That is correct.

1128
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:10,920
The entire thing.

1129
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,280
If you're with us this long, it's going to pay off.

1130
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,280
It's going to pay off.

1131
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,280
At least in Fantasyland.

1132
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,280
Stay tuned.

1133
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:17,280
So here we go.

1134
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,600
2021 draft, Greg Russo was the actual pick.

1135
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,560
And I still have it at Greg Russo, right?

1136
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,440
I mean, the Bills were still looking for edge, pass, rush, help.

1137
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:26,720
He had traits, right?

1138
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:31,160
There's guys that were taken in round two that you could argue ended up being more productive,

1139
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:36,160
but sticking with the experiment, I stuck with guys solely drafted in that round.

1140
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,880
Round two, boogie bash them.

1141
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:39,880
I keep boogie bash them.

1142
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:40,880
I'm just playing.

1143
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,560
I don't keep boogie bash them at all.

1144
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,600
It's like, I don't think that's what's written on the script, my friend.

1145
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,280
I don't keep boogie bash them.

1146
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,400
Creed Humphrey, which we all know should have been the pick.

1147
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,400
Yes.

1148
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,120
And remember, the Buffalo Bills offensive line is laden with veterans, but this is also

1149
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,360
the season where that offensive line starts to take a step back, right?

1150
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,240
This is the Ryan Bates year because we just can't figure out the right side of that offensive

1151
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:03,240
line.

1152
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,280
So Creed Humphrey comes into the fold.

1153
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,880
Spencer Brown, the pick and round three.

1154
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,040
I keep them as the pick and round three, right?

1155
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,040
He's become a viable starter.

1156
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,040
Tommy Doyle.

1157
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,720
I got God, the straff was so weird.

1158
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,160
Double dip it edge, double dip it tackle.

1159
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,800
Tommy Doyle is the pick here.

1160
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,520
I do not have Tommy Doyle is the pick here.

1161
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,960
I've got Tolona, Hofunga, defensive back.

1162
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:26,960
Am I saying that right?

1163
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,680
He's the dude on San Francisco.

1164
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,480
He's starting in the Super Bowl this Sunday, right?

1165
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:32,480
Fifth round.

1166
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:33,480
Thank you.

1167
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:34,480
Thank you.

1168
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,240
He's starting in the Super Bowl this week.

1169
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,920
He's got a lot of positional versatility in that secondary.

1170
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:47,520
And when you look at the Levi Wallace persistence, when you look at how comfortable they got

1171
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,960
with Poyer and Hyde, they were not thinking to the future in this, in this particular

1172
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,320
position grew.

1173
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:57,840
So I've changing that up and I've got Hofunga here as the pick and round five.

1174
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,080
Marquez Stevenson, absolute flame on it.

1175
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,840
Wide receiver is the real life pick in round six.

1176
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:09,160
I have the bills trading this pick and Levi Wallace for Zach Hertz because in fantasy

1177
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,240
land, Cam Dancer is your guy.

1178
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,600
You've got Isaiah Rogers.

1179
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,160
You've got Taryn Johnson.

1180
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,120
You still have Trey White, even though this is going to be his injury season.

1181
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:19,880
Levi Wallace becomes expendable.

1182
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:25,800
Now in real life, Zach Hertz went for a five and Tay Gowen, who is the rookie defensive

1183
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,560
back out of the university of central Florida.

1184
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:34,640
I've got the bills trading a similar amount of trade value with a better player to finally

1185
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:39,080
get Josh the tight end that he needs to exploit the middle of the field in the Siemens Act

1186
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:40,080
Hertz.

1187
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,800
DeMar Hamlin is the pick here in real life after Stevenson.

1188
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,200
This is where I go Tay Gowen.

1189
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,600
I go back to back defensive backs.

1190
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:54,600
Tay Gowen charted is a cornerback, but really had a lot of utility coming out of UCF in

1191
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,720
the, in various roles in the secondary.

1192
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:00,640
So I give McDermott a couple of late round chess pieces.

1193
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:07,880
Rashad Wild Goose, the very, very short tenured cornerback out of Wisconsin, round six and

1194
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:08,880
2021.

1195
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,520
I take Trace Smith, man.

1196
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:15,440
And that often, I basically steal from the chiefs everything they use to re fortify that

1197
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:16,640
offensive line.

1198
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,480
And I give it to our Josh Allen, right?

1199
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,800
And then Jackie Anderson, another offensive tackle is the pick in round seven.

1200
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:23,800
I pick a punter.

1201
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:28,040
I pick Presley Harvin, third, who is still punting for Pittsburgh these days.

1202
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,480
And it solidifies the special team punter position.

1203
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,880
No more Matt Hawk.

1204
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,960
No more inconsistency with Sam Martin.

1205
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,200
We just draft a young punter and then we just let him roll with it.

1206
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:42,200
So I will say, however, that's, that's maybe the only part of this whole experiment that

1207
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,280
I disagree.

1208
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,040
I think Presley Harvin has been a nice punter.

1209
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:51,640
He's one of the most volatile punters in the league in terms of like he either cranks

1210
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:57,880
it 63 yards inside the 20 or he duffs it 12 yards and they return it for a touchdown.

1211
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,080
Like it's really tough.

1212
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,760
All we, we've just basically drafted like Corey Boracas or whoever that guy was that

1213
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:03,760
we had, right?

1214
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:04,760
Before the quiz.

1215
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:05,760
Boy, yeah, there you go.

1216
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:06,760
Right.

1217
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:07,760
There you go.

1218
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,000
So in 2021, we all know what the real result is.

1219
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:14,680
It is 13 seconds and it is heartbreaking, but the bills feel like they've got something

1220
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,240
that they can build on and they're a few pieces away.

1221
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,520
So this is the all in year or next year is the all in year.

1222
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,720
I've got the bills going all in here, man.

1223
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:28,400
So remember in season, this is the year that the Rams won the Super Bowl and they traded

1224
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:35,040
a second and a third in the 2022 draft for Von Miller further from the Denver Broncos.

1225
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:41,000
I've got the bills making that move mid season instead of the Rams for the exact same draft

1226
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:47,000
package because in fantasy land, the clock has now turned up and it's not 2022.

1227
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,000
That's the all in year.

1228
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,320
So this is the year of 2021 and as a result of that, Cam Danzler with another year under

1229
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:59,040
his belt, Renfro, Jefferson and A.J. Brown with two more seasons and with another season

1230
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:04,360
under their belt, add the professionalism of Zach Ertz over the middle and the infusion

1231
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:10,640
of young talent to solidify the right side of that offensive line with Humphrey and Smith

1232
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,600
splitting reps at guard and then you still have Spencer Brown over there as well.

1233
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:22,240
JJ, I have Josh Allen winning back to back MVPs and the Buffalo Bills cruising to a victory

1234
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:28,760
over the Kansas City Chiefs because they cannot stop the combo of Von Miller and Jerry Hughes

1235
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:34,800
on the edge because Jerry Hughes, a revitalized Jerry Hughes who had his best seasons when

1236
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,480
he had a running mate to go with, right?

1237
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:39,720
He's got a running mate back.

1238
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,520
Jerry Hughes is revitalized.

1239
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:46,160
We never have the debate about trading or cutting Jerry Hughes on this pod, but more

1240
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:51,720
importantly, the bills cure the curse of the Kansas City Chiefs.

1241
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:57,720
They move on to the Super Bowl and in 2021, JJ, with this roster, the Buffalo Bills win

1242
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,280
the Super Bowl.

1243
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:03,200
So I just sweet, just a sweet, sweet ending to this experiment.

1244
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:07,400
Sweet sweet ending to a dream in fantasy land that is not the reality that we live in.

1245
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:11,160
I know, but this is a roster that could have done it.

1246
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:17,760
And then when you think about how it sets the bills up for so many of their needs that

1247
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:22,640
they had to draft more in 2022, that's the Kyrie Elamir because they hadn't really addressed

1248
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,200
cornerback in a meaningful way.

1249
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,120
Dancer and all of that changes it, right?

1250
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,480
It really changes the future of this team.

1251
01:10:29,480 --> 01:10:33,120
So side by side, reality roster fantasy redraft.

1252
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:34,960
Josh Allen is your QB in both.

1253
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,560
Devin Singletary as you're starting running back in both.

1254
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:43,760
Dawson Knox in reality in 2021 versus Zach Ertz in the fantasy Super Bowl year.

1255
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:49,240
Diggs in reality, Justin Jefferson as your number one wide receiver.

1256
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,080
Gabe Davis is your number two wide out.

1257
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,720
AJ Brown is your number two wide out.

1258
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,800
Cole Beasley was there in 2021.

1259
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,520
It's Hunter Renfrow this time.

1260
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,080
Emmanuel Sanders, you remember Emmanuel Sanders being on the team?

1261
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,600
Love the Emmanuel Sanders for one year.

1262
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:03,600
He was great.

1263
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:04,600
I loved him too.

1264
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:05,920
The bills can never figure out how to use him.

1265
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:10,040
You've got Gabe Davis as your number four power slot receiver here.

1266
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,520
Dawkins is on the offensive line.

1267
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:18,120
You have Conor McGovern though, instead of Eichbacher who ended up starting meaningful

1268
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,120
snaps for the bills that year.

1269
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:24,720
Mitch Morris is still your center, but instead of Darryl Williams on the right side guard,

1270
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,200
you've got Creed Humphrey and Trace Smith splitting snaps.

1271
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,280
How sweet is that?

1272
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:29,520
Oh, I can.

1273
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,760
And then you have your Mitch Morris replacement of the future, which resets the clock on the

1274
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,680
cap a little bit earlier for the bills too because you're not carrying Morris's contract

1275
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:38,800
anymore.

1276
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,840
And then Spencer Brown over on the right hand side.

1277
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:45,760
On defense, you had Greg Rousseau and you had Jerry Hughes on the edge.

1278
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,680
Here you have Von Miller and Jerry Hughes on the edge with Rousseau playing a meaningful

1279
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,240
situational role.

1280
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:55,320
Ed Oliver and Star Latoulou are the same on both, right?

1281
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:59,360
You got Matt Milano, Tremaine Edmonds the same on both, but this is the biggest difference,

1282
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,360
man.

1283
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,920
And this was the year that Trey White went down.

1284
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,200
You were starting Dane Jackson and Levi Wallace in 2021.

1285
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:13,680
Here you've got Cam Danzler, Isaiah Rogers, Taryn Johnson, Jordan Poirin, Micahyd.

1286
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,440
Dude, this is a Super Bowl roster.

1287
01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:17,440
That defense is nasty.

1288
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:22,720
Well, and the defense doesn't even matter when your weapons are Devon Singletary.

1289
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,360
I mean, who we all agree is a solid starting running back.

1290
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:30,080
Zach Hertz, Justin Jefferson, AJ Brown, Hunter Renfrow, and then Gabe Davis as your best.

1291
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,080
Your fourth option.

1292
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,760
Basically throwing blocks for guys.

1293
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,880
In that reality where then you have Deon Dawkins who that was his first Pro Bowl year.

1294
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:38,880
Correct.

1295
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:43,960
Connor McGovern who is a above average starter, Mitch Morris of course, an above average center,

1296
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,840
Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith.

1297
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:51,880
So if anybody gets injured in the interior three, you're covered in every possible combination.

1298
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,360
And then Spencer Brown, what was that year was a down year for him?

1299
01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:00,840
But you know, I mean, I don't hate Trey Smith playing outside snaps at tackle if you had

1300
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,320
to have Spencer Brown's missing games.

1301
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,960
Or even Ryan Bates because Bates is still on the roster at this point too, right?

1302
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,000
No, I know, man.

1303
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:12,280
What could have been and like that that was the fun but heartbreaking part of this exercise

1304
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:17,240
is that these were guys that were drafted after the pick that being right.

1305
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:18,400
They were available for this season.

1306
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,760
They were available and this could have been the makeup of this roster.

1307
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:26,600
Now it's easy to play hindsight, it's easy to play like Monday morning draft room GM

1308
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,520
and all that other kind of stuff.

1309
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:33,760
But again, I loved going through this exercise because it purged a lot of bad feelings I

1310
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:39,240
had about recent bills draft memory so that I could reset my mind for doing draft preview

1311
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,080
on this pod moving forward.

1312
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:46,640
But like, man, what could have been like this is how close the bills have been in this era.

1313
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,560
And that's a credit to it's a credit to Bean that they've been even this close.

1314
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,000
But man, just a couple of moves different.

1315
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,160
And this is a Buffalo Bill team.

1316
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,880
We could be talking dynasty right now.

1317
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:56,880
Let's be real.

1318
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:57,880
Absolutely.

1319
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:58,880
Yeah.

1320
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,440
And the whole conversation with this team is it's not about it's the conversation

1321
01:14:02,440 --> 01:14:07,800
becomes can Patrick Mahomes get past Josh Allen?

1322
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:13,560
I know that's the difference is like, can the chiefs get back to a Super Bowl and get

1323
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:14,600
past the bills?

1324
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:19,840
I know the road to the Super Bowl runs through the bills with Justin Jefferson and H.A.

1325
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,960
Brown is the receiving dynamic.

1326
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,760
Dude, it's just it's crazy.

1327
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:24,840
It's fantasy land.

1328
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:29,160
Like it obviously didn't happen, but still really fun exercise to go to in this multiverse

1329
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:30,840
of Brandon Bean drafts.

1330
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,400
So thank you JJ for letting me go through that exercise.

1331
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:35,640
And thank you for everybody listening.

1332
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:39,480
Hopefully you got something fun out of that other than like fire Brandon Bean.

1333
01:14:39,480 --> 01:14:40,480
That is not what we're advocating.

1334
01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:44,920
No, no, no, no, I think and we'll and we'll say to you and we say all the time teams the

1335
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:46,160
draft is so variable.

1336
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,720
Like you had the opportunity to look at it and be like, Oh, who's the best?

1337
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:49,960
It's all hindsight.

1338
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:50,960
Exactly.

1339
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,480
I'm going to cherry pick the best players that were taken in each round.

1340
01:14:53,480 --> 01:14:56,720
Brandon Bean hits in terms of starter snaps.

1341
01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:02,640
He hits it probably 38 to 40 percent in his draft history with the bills.

1342
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,120
The average for the league is around 33.

1343
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:06,720
Bad teams are about 25.

1344
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:11,000
It means about Bill Belichick's about 18 percent.

1345
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,000
Belichick.

1346
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,000
Yeah.

1347
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,000
So on the employment line.

1348
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,000
I know.

1349
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:20,880
With all that said, like we are probing in every possible way and he has shown extremely

1350
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:26,560
good draft acumen, especially this these past two years.

1351
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:31,360
And you know, with occasional starters and other in other years, I think that the thing

1352
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:35,240
that we're looking for is like, hopefully we have another a third consecutive year with

1353
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:39,800
meaningful rookie snaps coming out of the draft at more than two positions.

1354
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,560
And that's if the bills have that and that's the thing to, you know, put some hope out

1355
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,880
there, Bill's mafia in the future.

1356
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:51,680
If the bills are able to get two or three meaningful contributors from this draft class

1357
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:56,720
at positions of need, we're we're as competitive as any team in the league for the next three

1358
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:57,720
to five years.

1359
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,720
Absolutely.

1360
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,120
We reset the cap, but we also keep the Super Bowl window open, right?

1361
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:03,120
Yes.

1362
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,320
And beans got the capability to do that.

1363
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,320
He really does.

1364
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:10,080
So it's just these three draft classes really kind of set the bills back, I think a little

1365
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,880
bit in the arc they wanted to be on.

1366
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,600
But I think being as the guy that can get us back on track.

1367
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:15,600
Absolutely.

1368
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:16,600
Awesome, man.

1369
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:17,600
Well, that was fun.

1370
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,480
That was a that was an awesome pod free agency table set.

1371
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:24,760
Next up JJ, we've got friends of the pod, not friends of the bills, helping to set the

1372
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:29,280
table for what other AFC East teams are going to be doing to help dethrone the Buffalo bills.

1373
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,080
We're going to have those segments coming up next week and the week following.

1374
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:37,600
And then we are going to dig deep into the draft before we take, I think a much needed

1375
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:43,040
break post Super Bowl in between the Super Bowl and free agency from potting for a little

1376
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:44,040
bit.

1377
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,640
So we're going to dig into the draft a little bit, set the table there, talk about AFC East

1378
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:48,640
stuff.

1379
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,600
And then, yeah, man, we're full bore into the off season.

1380
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:52,600
Sound good?

1381
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:53,600
Sounds good.

1382
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:54,600
Yeah, go ahead.

1383
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,840
Yeah, I just want to say, you know, because we look at our analytics every week and looks

1384
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,120
like we have some new listeners.

1385
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Thank you for joining us here on Buffalo Bread and we appreciate the downloads and likes

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and please continue to share the pod wherever you are.

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Absolutely.

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We appreciate it.

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And in case you need a reminder of where we are, we are on Apple, Google Spotify, pretty

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much where we put podcasts and always go bills.

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So the rest of you, go ahead

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and kill the empty box right now.

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