1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,560 Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread podcast. Dan and I, after our brief co-hosting spot 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:16,600 on the Shout podcast with our friends, Ryan Talbot and Matt Perino, are back with you 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:25,520 on our solo show and we have somewhat recovered from the repeated punishment of being a Buffalo 4 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:31,960 Bills fan this time of year and the as usual divisional round departure of our beloved 5 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:37,960 Buffalo Bills at the hands of again, Be Hated, Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes and 6 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:43,280 Travis Swift and the whole gang. They came to Orchard Park, they did us dirty and now 7 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:49,160 we're in off-season mode yet again. Dan, are you lamenting the fact that we're already 8 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:52,360 talking about free agency and draft as much as I am? 9 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,680 This is more muscle memory for me, JJ, at this point. 10 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:56,680 It's repetition. 11 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:04,200 It feels natural. It doesn't feel great, but it feels natural. And honestly, I am looking 12 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,760 forward to this off-season because I think it's going to mark potentially a change in 13 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:14,880 roster build philosophy from being in McDermott as opposed to what we see in the past because 14 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,480 now Josh Allen's contract really kicks in, really takes a big chunk out of the cap. And 15 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:25,480 as a result of that, this Buffalo Bills organization is going to have to find more stars in the 16 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,760 draft. And this is a very deep draft and a lot of positions in need for the Bills. So 17 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,400 I'm hoping this marks sort of a sea change for this organization and the way they've 18 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,920 been building this roster. And you know, as much as anybody else, man, I love playing 19 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,240 some man GM. So this time of year, I am ready to create the ultimate fantasy roster for 20 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:49,040 the Bills until salary cap and or draft limitations ultimately kick in. 21 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:55,320 Oh yeah, Madden GM is one of my favorite things that we do on this pod because it's the only 22 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,600 time of the year that we don't have any cold hard facts to look at. It's literally just 23 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,160 projecting, you know, our dreams and wishes for the team and we can be full of hope and 24 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:11,600 positivity because there's no games being played to prove us wrong. And so we're looking 25 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:17,160 at what are we going to do Bills when you build this roster in the off season? Looking 26 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,760 at it to lens, I think we should we should use the pod in this way. We should set the 27 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:28,080 stage for the off season and kind of without talking about maybe individual targets and 28 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:33,840 free agency and things like that. With the exception of a few and the draft of course, 29 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,600 because so much is going to change before the draft but rather just what is the status 30 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,680 of the roster that's lens one. And then lens two is what are what's going to change with 31 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:48,640 the what do we believe will change with the on the field product based on the cap, the 32 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:54,280 roster build and projection of what it's probably going to be when we hit the end of training 33 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,600 camp August September. And so I'll start us off here. Do you want to talk about our pending 34 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,880 free agents? Yeah, I think that's a good place to start is any because that's going to dictate 35 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:08,800 a lot of off season business. Sure. And I've got them in, you know, I'm going to kind of 36 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,160 group them in this way. I'm going to group them into three categories. The first category 37 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:20,200 is pending free agents that I either don't believe will resign with the team. Or I don't 38 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,680 want to resign with the team. These are the guys that I'm happy to watch walk and I don't 39 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,280 really care for the bills to really make any kind of effort to get them back. They are 40 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:33,120 Gabe Davis, wide receiver, Mike hide safety. That's going to hurt bills mafia. I know that 41 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,960 those words may hurt. Tim settle defensive tackle Jordan Phillips defensive line and 42 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,520 Dane Jackson. And it's not that I don't like Dane Jackson. I've complained about him. He 43 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:49,000 is a capable starting caliber cornerback who's going to get beat a few times a game. He's 44 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,560 going to commit a penalty here and there, but he he's kind of Levi Wallace for me. But 45 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,840 I have no interest in the bill signing him back because I would actually like to see 46 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Kyrie Lom get on the field and have them force, you know, his development a little bit. But 47 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,760 for all those guys, I think it's, you know, thank you for coming. Their market value is 48 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,520 a couple million more than I'd be willing to pay. I think Jordan Phillips year over 49 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:17,480 year has has declined in his splash plays and become nothing more than kind of a juice 50 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:23,760 guy, which is not on the field play does not help us. Right. And so with those those players 51 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,400 Mike hide, I think he's probably set to retire. If the market doesn't throw a huge contract 52 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:34,880 at him, he's likely out when he got the stinger during the latter half of the season. It seemed 53 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,760 like he was afraid that it was like, you know, the kind of thing it was a scary injury for 54 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,320 him. And I think that that's the time when veteran players start to look at the their, 55 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,160 you know, time in the league as ending when they start to worry about their life after 56 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:53,840 football. And so I think Mike hide might be on the verge of retiring his wife, Amanda 57 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:58,200 sent something out on Instagram that very much read like thank you, Bill's mafia work, 58 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,400 we're done or at least we're done here. 59 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:06,720 Yeah, it was a very heartfelt, very emotional post from the hides and it definitely read 60 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:12,960 like definitely the end of Buffalo, but it had tinges of like a goodbye message to the 61 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:18,520 game writ large and hide. Listen, man, we're probably going to do this with Poyer at some 62 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,040 point if and when his departure from the team becomes official as well. But it cannot be 63 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:29,120 understated how essential Mike hide in Jordan, Jordan Poyer were to opening the door to this 64 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:35,480 recent era of Bill's success. The way they came in and stabilized the spine of that defense, 65 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,840 the way they allowed McDermott to really instill his defensive scheme and Frazier didn't still 66 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:45,600 their defensive scheme and the way they led this roster and this team year in and year 67 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:51,200 out and not just on the field JJ. I think what often goes unnoticed is we we hear all 68 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,960 these reports after the after the Bill's divisional loss that at Oliver, defensive captain doesn't 69 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,840 stick around for interviews. Stefan Diggs, offensive captain doesn't stick around for 70 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:07,720 interviews. Mike hide and Jordan Poyer after every single game stood up there took accountability 71 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:13,160 for the shortcomings always shared the credit the credit for the success of this defensive 72 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,600 unit in this team. And they were model leaders on the squad. So if this is indeed the swan 73 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,080 song for Mike hide and he will not be returning to Buffalo, you know, I agree with you it 74 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,400 hurts, but it's a business decision. All that being said, there should be a lot of 75 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,720 gratitude coming towards Mike hide and Jordan Poyer for sure. 76 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,160 Absolutely. And Jordan Poyer is under contract but is one of those players that we are probably 77 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,640 the teams likely going to either ask for a pay cut. It's an easy out. Yeah, or be forced 78 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:45,160 to cut outright based on his salary. And so that's the first bucket is people that are 79 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,440 free agents that I do not expect to the bills to really make a strong effort at and will 80 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:54,320 likely not return to the team. The second bucket is players I would absolutely love 81 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,240 for the bills to retain as long as it was on reasonable team friendly deals, but are 82 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:05,440 also unlikely. And that is AJ Epinezza, defensive end Leonard Floyd Floyd defensive end, of 83 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,840 course, and Tyrell Dodson. And Dodson's a surprising one for me because if you would 84 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,200 ask me week four of the season, if I wanted Tyrell Dodson back as an unrestricted free 85 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,280 agent, I'd say no. But he proved throughout the year that with used in an appropriate 86 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,640 way and Bobby Babich being elevated to defensive coordinator, I think we could rely on Tyrell 87 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:30,440 Dodson being used in a right way. Being used in the right way, he can be an effective run 88 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:35,560 stopping early down defender. And so and will not break the bank is not going to be a very 89 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,800 expensive player. But I do think there's a possibility that there's teams out there 90 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,360 that have a lot of cap space and they're looking they're hungry for somebody who, you know, 91 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,720 he showed a lot in the letter half of the season of being that capable run defender 92 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,920 and was well graded and PFF and other kind of analytics services. So I think there's 93 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,840 a possibility somebody throws a bag of money at him and he does not come back. And then 94 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:03,960 of course, AJ Epinezza and Leonard Floyd. My feelings on Floyd are that he tailed off 95 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,600 he's 32. So if you know, the bills aren't able to get him back, he's likely looking 96 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,560 for a big time payday because he's at the tail end of his career. And again, it's one 97 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:18,680 of those deals where a team with way more, you know, cap capacity might take a contract 98 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,840 and send it his way just because he again had double digit sack production for I think 99 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:30,240 the fourth season in a row. And did so, you know, on a team where they were not getting 100 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,200 anything from von Miller, Greg Russo was hit or miss and pass rush productivity at Oliver 101 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:40,440 was, you know, solid and steady, but didn't show up in the playoffs. You know, there's 102 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:46,080 a lot of things there that Leonard Floyd proved that he can be he can create production without 103 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:52,160 the requirement of another piece. But you know, I think that it may hurt his value in 104 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,680 the market that the last, you know, four or five games of the season, he was not producing 105 00:08:56,680 --> 00:09:00,560 at nearly the same level and likely it could be his age, you know, dragging around a chest 106 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:05,520 injury at one point, had some lower body stuff going on throughout the season. So what do 107 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:11,640 you think about AJ Epinezza? I mean, I don't I think he's gone. But I don't know that he's 108 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,360 I don't know that he's a starting book and you know, caliber defensive end for any team 109 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:17,360 in the NFL. 110 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,880 JJ, this is the hardest free agent for me to read for the bills. I think the bills definitely 111 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:28,520 have an interest in keeping him that's clear. What is less clear to me is what his market 112 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:35,600 value is going to be. He I agree with you. I don't know that he's got the juice yet to 113 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:43,600 be a solid starting caliber edge for another unit. But he's only 25. And if you remember, 114 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,880 he was highly heralded coming in his draft class here. It was him and Chase Young were 115 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,040 the top two pass rushers in that draft class. And I believe that there are going to be some 116 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,520 teams that are going to be willing to take a shot on that pedigree and hope that they're 117 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:05,400 catching him as he is ascending into his prime in his mid 20s. And you know, if his market 118 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:10,320 value is anything above $10 million, I think the bills take a pass and they look to address 119 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,680 edge in the draft because this is a very, very, very deep edge class coming into this 120 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:22,320 2024 draft for sure. But I'd like to see him return. He was great, not just in the traditional 121 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,680 pass rush game, but also in past defense game. There's so many of these squads as we have 122 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:31,960 seen the Cincinnati's and the Miami's that looked at the ball out quickly, run these 123 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:37,000 quick screen games and he's an absolute disruptor off the edge to the QB's throwing side on 124 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:42,000 a lot of those plays. There is a lot of value for someone like that for a bill squad that 125 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:47,000 outside of some of those deflections really struggles to stop the screen. So I think he's 126 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,200 a dude that brings a lot of utility to this defensive scheme. I just don't know how much 127 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,800 money he's going to make realistically on the open market. He could easily be priced 128 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,640 out of where the bills can afford him. But ultimately, I'd love to see him back. 129 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,740 Sure. Yeah. I would love to see him back, but the money would have to be right. I do 130 00:11:03,740 --> 00:11:10,040 not want the Buffalo bills to pay him more than $8 million per year, $10 million per 131 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:16,480 year. But defensive the defensive end market might drive him up to the 1618 level. And I 132 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,920 think that that's, you know, that's a range that I don't feel comfortable with for his 133 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,280 production, even though I agree with you, he offers a unique skill set as like kind 134 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:30,480 of a screen killer. And, you know, wide receiver like dump off screen, you know, is the thing 135 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,760 that he shuts down so well. And again, you're right, we do see that in the FC East often. 136 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:41,000 And so yeah, with AJ Pinesa, that's similar to my feelings. I would like to see the bills 137 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,320 resign him, but it has the money has to be right. I do not want them to overpay for 138 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:52,600 him. And so, you know, that brings me to our next kind of bucket. And these are the players 139 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:58,880 who are expiring contracts that I believe it's really it's important that the bills bring 140 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:04,900 back or that at least, you know, if the money's right, they extend to Juan Jones, who may 141 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:10,480 garner $7 million a year. Again, we love to Juan Jones. I think that it may benefit 142 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:15,680 the bills in terms of his market viability that he was injured for most of the year. 143 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:19,920 So because if he kept up his all pro play that he had in the first four weeks of the 144 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,880 season, I believe that he would be good as gone making 12 plus, you know, in that defensive 145 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,760 interior. I think it's possible they can get him under 10, and maybe a one or two year 146 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:34,800 deal I'm not looking for anything more than that because he is 32. But I do I do love 147 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,520 the pairing of DeJuan Jones and Ed Oliver in the middle. And I think that with it, additional 148 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,960 time to kind of recover from that pectoral tear and surgery over the off season, he could 149 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:52,000 come back in good form. Puna Ford, who's only 28. And I think as a spot starter offered 150 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,960 something. And really is one of those things that the only reason he's on my list as a 151 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,520 resign is because I think they could get him back on the minimum deal of that minimum 152 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:05,480 deal low money. And you know, knows the system could come in and know the system even more 153 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:12,000 than coming in this season. And that could be additional. Taylor rap, who I thought 154 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:19,960 really did well as kind of an in the box safety at times, but really showed his better flashes 155 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:25,360 being a deep third defender in that free safety role, when Jordan Poyer came down. And he 156 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:30,680 could be had for between five and seven million, I think per year on a couple of year deal. 157 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:35,360 And at least you'd have a little bit of continuity. And that's Taylor rap. I think that, you 158 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:40,680 know, we talked before we recorded that the bill's plan probably is to have one veteran 159 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:44,760 and maybe one rookie safety on the field. I don't think they'd ever go into the season 160 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,280 with two rooks because that safety position is so crucial for Sean McDermott and Bobby 161 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:55,200 bad which is defense, they will need to have kind of a blend of age and experience and 162 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:00,000 then athleticism on the back end. Taylor rap could be age and experience in that equation 163 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,160 if especially if Poyer is gone. What do you think about that? 164 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:09,280 No, totally that there's no way that the bills are going to totally reset the clock at safety. 165 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,680 So this to me, I know wide receiver is probably more crucial for the overall success of the 166 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:20,160 team. But this to me is the most fascinating room to watch the bills rebuild. There are 167 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:26,640 going to be some interesting free agent options, a deep draft class in this particular position 168 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:32,120 as well. Overall, it's going to be fascinating to see how the bills approach this. I think 169 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,640 free agency as it always does will unlock a lot of the bill strategy. I agree. I think 170 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:43,520 if we see rap come back, it's almost a guarantee that Poyer, we probably move on from Poyer 171 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:51,040 and very likely are drafting Poyer's replacement in April. There's also a there is also a world 172 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:57,080 where Poyer does come back to this team. They value his veteran leadership. And when you 173 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,920 look at a lot of the free agent safeties that are going to be in the bill's wheelhouse and 174 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:06,360 what they can afford, it's a lot of guys that primarily play that box safety role, which 175 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,480 is where Poyer has basically been relegated to it is at this point in his career. So unless 176 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,720 you think one of those guys like a Jeremy Chen, for example, is going to be a massive 177 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,640 upgrade in that box role, there is a world where you bring back Poyer and kind of let 178 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:26,160 him tutor you let him tutor the new free safety draft rookie acquisition that the bills could 179 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,720 potentially bring in. I want to go back to the Dequan Jones thing real quick, if you're 180 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:38,600 good with it. Because I think we're I think we're going to depart on this one. Your as 181 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,980 being always says your last game tells you everything that you need to address tells 182 00:15:43,980 --> 00:15:48,600 you everything that you need to know about where your team has fallen short. And with 183 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:54,120 a healthy at Oliver and with a healthy to Juan Jones against the Kansas City Chiefs, 184 00:15:54,120 --> 00:16:00,800 we got zero on the interior as far as run defense and pass rush from at Oliver and from Dequan 185 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:08,160 Jones. If you're asking me, do I want to run it back for 17 games with Dequan Jones, basically 186 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:15,680 playing our nose tackle or playing our one tech? The answer is sure. Do I want to go 187 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,800 I think Dequan Jones is going to get us over the hump and get the interior rush that we 188 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:26,240 need against Creed Humphrey and against Trace Smith and against that interior and Joe Tooney 189 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,520 that interior offensive line for the Chiefs. The answer to that is no. I would prefer to 190 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:38,240 see the bills. Let Jones walk away if the money is even approaching unreasonable and 191 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,560 really tend to this one tech in the draft. It's something they haven't done since they 192 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:47,180 drafted at Oliver, they drafted at Oliver. And you could argue until they got Dequan 193 00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:52,760 Jones in here, they never really gave him a proper running partner where he could he 194 00:16:52,760 --> 00:17:00,080 could excel with his skill set in that four three scheme. Jones is 32, entering his age 195 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:05,600 33 season, coming off back to back years where he's been dinged up and severely injured. 196 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,480 I think it is finally time for the bills to address DT the one tech in the draft because 197 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,760 it's deep. There's a lot of hogmollies as we like to say in this draft that they could 198 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:20,040 take and I would prefer to see the bills turn back the clock a little bit of that position 199 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:25,140 in the hopes that they can finally find someone that can help to penetrate that Kansas City 200 00:17:25,140 --> 00:17:29,400 interior offensive line. Like they say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing 201 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,840 over and over again and expect a different result. There is zero reason for me to think 202 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:39,480 JJ that if we bring Dequan Jones back, that interior pass rush will be good against Kansas 203 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,840 City because all evidence has been to the contrary. So I would prefer to see the bills 204 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,200 walk away and start over at that position with the bevy of draft capital they've built 205 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,200 up this year. 206 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:55,840 Sure. So I'm going to remain departed from you on this on this point because I do think 207 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:01,800 and here's why this is our new Jerry Hughes. This is our new Jerry Hughes. We found our 208 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:08,440 new Jerry Hughes and the reason I say it is because you know, I'll I'll qualify it if 209 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:14,720 the bills are going to use a top four round draft pick on a defensive talent, run stuffing 210 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:21,080 defensive tackle who can line up and keep at Oliver clean from constant double teams. 211 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:26,200 I am fine with Dequan Jones going. I just don't think that this is the year or this 212 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:32,000 is the draft in which they have the capacity to use that top, you know, top four rounds 213 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:38,240 draft pick on a DT run stuffing DT and that's a longer developing position in the NFL. I 214 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,600 think that people look at it and they they think, Oh, it's a big guy just plug him in. 215 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:48,000 The level of technique and difficulty and the level of competition at that, you know, 216 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:53,160 in the NFL is so much higher than in college that a dominant defensive tackle takes a couple 217 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,640 of years of seasoning in order to learn the hand fighting and all those advanced techniques 218 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,440 to really get past somebody like a Joe Tooney. And I think that that's what we saw was probably 219 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:09,920 the best interior defensive interior defender on the market other than Chris Jones, Justin 220 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:15,440 Madibuike in Baltimore had a half sack and two tackles of his own in that in that game 221 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,000 against the Chiefs. He didn't do Jack squat against that middle three either. And the 222 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,120 Baltimore Ravens have the number one defense in the league throughout the course of the 223 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:30,480 season. So, you know, I think that calling, you know, calling Dequan Jones and that Oliver's 224 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,680 experience or what they put on tape against the Chiefs, a reason not to maintain that 225 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:40,920 pair in the middle is sort of ignoring the fact that nobody in the league was doing 226 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:47,800 anything against those middle three for the Chiefs. Patrick Holmes was kept clean from 227 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,360 interior pressure more than almost any quarterback in the league this season for good reason. 228 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:59,200 He has the best three guard to guard, you know, trio in the league. And so I know, but and 229 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,280 I know that's not, you know, there's no way to get past that without some interior pressure 230 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:11,240 and find ways to find that. And so I just don't know. I think that a top four round 231 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,760 DT could replace Dequan Jones on the roster in my mind, but I don't think they're going 232 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,480 to spend it because I think they have other more pressing needs. And so I do think that 233 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,560 they'll be able to get him back because of the injury riddled the season. They'll be 234 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:29,520 able to get him back in a more reasonable deal. And I expect them to do so. 235 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,800 I look forward to this ongoing debate with you this off season about Dequan Jones and 236 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,400 the utility of the utility of turning the clock back a bit on that position. This is 237 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,440 going to be a fun one. I'm glad we have found our new Jerry Hughes, sir, because we agree 238 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:49,640 far too much on this part. The pod. Yeah, the pod is better when I'm calling you names. 239 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,800 It always is. It always is. Yeah, absolutely. So are we ready to talk about some of the 240 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,080 bucket out minimum guys? Yeah, because I think this opens an interesting 241 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:05,240 conversation to another area of need that is not on a lot of bills, mafia fan radar, 242 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,680 but could rear its head very, very quickly. So let's do that. 243 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:15,240 Sure. Yeah. So the following is a list of players who are playing with the team at or 244 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,620 near the minimum contract for their veteran status within the league. So after a number 245 00:21:19,620 --> 00:21:25,320 of accrued seasons in the league, you have a sliding scale of what you must be paid. 246 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:30,960 These guys were all kind of at or just above that minimum, you know, salary. Taler, Maddoch 247 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:36,760 Kiewicz, Trent Scherfield, David Edwards, Damian Harris running back, Linvald Joseph 248 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,880 off the couch, defensive tackle, Shaq Lawson, defensive end, bills, you know, stalwart for 249 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:47,240 years on and off, Latavius Murray, the much maligned running back that nobody in Bill 250 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,440 mafia wants to see on the field again, because he tailed off in the end of the season and 251 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:57,840 had some very poor, you know, short yardage situation runs. Kyle Allen, who the claim 252 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,960 his claim to fame is that he has the same last name as Josh Allen, and that's about 253 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,640 it. He also does the QB room podcast, which I think is is an excellent listen if people 254 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:13,120 are looking for kind of in depth QB stuff. Cam Lewis, CB slash safety, and then tie Johnson 255 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:22,160 running back of that group. I am pleased to watch every single one of them walk away except 256 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:28,920 for David Edwards. Kyle Allen, again, minimum deal, good friend of Josh Allen. If the if 257 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,600 Josh Allen's out of the lineup, the season basically over anyway, I don't know that we're 258 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:38,080 really looking to make any kind of big deal for we can't make any big deal with the current 259 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:43,880 cap situation. The bills are under for a backup quarterback and it's not critical need anyway, 260 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,800 because again, you know, we ride as far as Josh Allen's willing to go. Cam Lewis, especially 261 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:54,320 in the world where he may transition to safety, and the deep third free safety is a position 262 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,480 he could he could fulfill. He's a little bit small, he won't ever be a box safety. But 263 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,040 I think kind of over the top, you know, ballhawk role is something he could fulfill. And then 264 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,920 tie Johnson, if they can get him back on the vet minimum deal for for his accrued seasons. 265 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,600 I thought he was a great kind of change up. And he offered a lot of juice in the run game 266 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,480 and then the screen game to improve that he was available when Josh Allen needed somebody 267 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:23,160 as an outlet. And then of course, David Edwards, guard slash, you know, de facto tight end 268 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,640 for heavy sets, you can do far worse than David Edwards as your swing backup guard. 269 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,520 And so if they can get him back on that kind of money, I think we'll probably see this 270 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:40,280 off season because it's so hard to find quality, you know, line play in the league. It's somebody 271 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:46,040 might pick him up on who needs a starter at guard. But we'll see. Any of those you want 272 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,680 to comment on? Yeah, Edwards is the one that I on that list 273 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:55,800 feels like the God I have it on that group, right? Tie Johnson probably a close second 274 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:01,440 just because you've got to love the dynamic duo capability that Cook and Johnson showed 275 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:07,880 at the end of last season. And you know, the bills were extraordinarily lucky this season, 276 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:14,160 JJ, and that the offensive line was relatively healthy for the entire season. We have seen 277 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:19,400 injuries kind of bite the bills and all these other position rooms save for offensive line. 278 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,240 So I think you cannot take for granted the fact that Edwards is a depth play and also 279 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,520 a play in that jumbo set is someone who came to mean a lot to your offensive scheme. And 280 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,760 as a result of that is somebody that you got to hope they can prioritize to get back because 281 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:39,280 as deep as this draft is this year, interior offensive line is not one of the areas of 282 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,880 strength and it continues to be a declining area of viability in the draft year after 283 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:50,360 year after year. So if you've got a guy like Edwards, you really want to see him signed 284 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:54,480 to the squad to give you a little stability there. And you know, JJ, I know the bills 285 00:24:54,480 --> 00:25:00,200 don't have any big pending free agents necessarily at the tackle position. But as we talk about 286 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,000 health for this team, I know we've got Alec Anderson who's still on the roster heading 287 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:13,520 into next year. I think as the bills evaluate their free agency acquisitions here, I do think 288 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,640 they're going to look at tackle either in the draft or in free agency. I think they're 289 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,920 going to want to tie up David Edwards. And then they're going to want to look not necessarily 290 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,600 for the Dionne Dawkins of the future because he just had a monster year. Spencer Brown 291 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:32,160 had a great year after playing really what was his first full healthy season at right 292 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,840 tackle. But I think the bills are going to want to address that tackle room because 293 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:42,720 depth there is still a little bit light. And I believe that for as fortunate as the bills 294 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,600 were to have all those pieces healthy throughout the course of the season, you can ever bet 295 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,560 bank on that from year to year, especially such a high use, high wear and tear position. 296 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:59,360 So I would love to see them resign Edwards and then maybe let a Cam Lewis or someone 297 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:03,280 like that go if it means bringing up another capable backup tackle. 298 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,320 Sure. Okay. You're willing to sacrifice a Cam Lewis for a backup tackle. I am too. I 299 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,760 think that that's a that's a necessary area. Although I will say Ryan Van de Mark, at least 300 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:19,040 in backing up Dionne Dawkins looked very capable. He did look solid. And so he's a young player 301 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,880 with some with some capabilities. And they did, I believe they did resign him to a future 302 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,000 to steal. So they did. Yep. Yep. So that's somebody we could we could look to for hopefully 303 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,160 that backup. And then one other person of note, we got Quentin Morris. I think he's 304 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,160 going to be on the squad. He's an exclusive rights free agent so they could sign him to 305 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,840 a minimum deal and nobody can really sign him away because he's still under his four 306 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:45,080 years of accrued seasons. So I mean, we've talked about a little bit the priority position 307 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:50,400 groups to fill through free agency and the draft are for me and my money wide receiver 308 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:56,320 and safety one two, and then detackle the end. Are those the same top four for you or 309 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,640 you have them different? 310 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:04,000 I've got them relatively the same. But again, I want to sneak tackle in there somewhere. 311 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,400 I love the develop of Van de Mark. I think Anderson is very solid for the squad as well. 312 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,960 But it's such a deep draft at this position. And when you see the teams that are continually 313 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:20,720 successful year after year after year, they're always throwing some sort of level of resource 314 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,440 at that position. I don't think it needs to be a top three pick. I would love the order 315 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:32,080 of the first three picks to be some kind of a semblance of wide receiver safety and DT. 316 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:37,520 But then after that, I wouldn't feel bad if the bills through another day to pick or a 317 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,640 late round draft pick at offensive tackle either to splash around. And again, what is 318 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,960 a very deep class? But yeah, for the most part, JJ, I'm right there with you. 319 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:53,080 Yeah, great. And I think for me, the one position that I don't see any help coming in free agency 320 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,720 is wide receiver, the market for veteran wide receivers is too hot for the bills to find 321 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,760 any meaningful contributor that would actually get on the field and, you know, challenge 322 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,400 stuff on dig for digs for snaps. That I feel like that has to come in the top two or three 323 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:15,120 rounds of the draft. And I'd like to I'd like to wide receivers in the top four rounds. 324 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:21,000 Oh, interesting. I like them to double dip. I love the double dip to. But I mean, if it 325 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,080 comes in rounds five, five or six, I'm cool with that too. Like what was tank Dell this 326 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:31,120 year was tanked out here? He was a five. I think was Nico, I think Nico Collins was the 327 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:36,040 third round pick right? Puka Nekua was a fifth. Yeah. I mean, so that's the thing. Give me 328 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:41,000 a Puka Nekua. I've said this for forever. Oh yeah, absolutely. He was your guy last 329 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,160 year. He was my my draft crush in the wide receiver room. Yeah, he was your dude, man. 330 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:54,200 And you nailed that one. I listen, I love the idea of a double dip. What I don't want 331 00:28:54,200 --> 00:29:01,720 to see the bills do though is put off an area of eminent need, right, in order to do that. 332 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,960 And it is crazy because you are so right that the wide receiver market is feels like it 333 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,680 is off balance a little bit like there are guys getting paid good money that maybe aren't 334 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,240 necessarily worth that contract. At the same time where this is yet another year where 335 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,720 we have an exceptionally deep wide receiver class coming in to and not just a lot of the 336 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,920 small slot guys that we saw last year, but guys that can legitimately for size and speed 337 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:33,040 metrics play on the outside. It's interesting that teams are giving 13 million potentially 338 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:39,000 to a game Davis or 10 million to a Darnell Mooney, when you can go into this year's draft 339 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,960 and get a Keon Coleman for a for a late first round pick potentially. And he brings the 340 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,920 same utility without the with the upside of an affordable contract. It's interesting how 341 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:54,200 teams are approaching that for sure. But you're absolutely right. Unless it is such a favorable 342 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:59,600 deal like unless Kelvin Ridley wants to take, you know, it wants to take a very Buffalo 343 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,240 friendly deal, guys like that are simply not coming to the squad. So it's going to have 344 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,920 to be in it's going to have to be in the draft and JJ let this be the year where the bills 345 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,880 finally go wide receiver in round one for a living savior, Josh Allen, let this be the 346 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,880 year finally. 347 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,800 There are some really good ones I gave some on the shout podcast, but there's there's 348 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,280 some guys one I didn't mention on the shout podcast, but I've recently been watching some 349 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,120 of his like college tape. Lad McConkey, have you seen this guy blowing up the senior bowl 350 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,880 right now? Oh yeah, I love the senior bowl man. I love all the news bits that come on 351 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,880 there. 352 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:40,760 Lad McConkey to me is Christian McCaffrey light, because just the way he moves like he's 353 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:47,880 this like six foot tall, 185 pounds, not a huge guy, but he's incredibly fast in every 354 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:53,280 direction, both in deep speed and change of direction. I just don't I think the problem 355 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,280 I have with him for the bills in the first round because he's probably going to go in 356 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,520 the first and maybe top of the second problem with him. 357 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,520 You think so? 358 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,520 Yeah, I think so. 359 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,160 I think yeah, okay, interesting. Yeah, we'll talk about that more. Yeah, we'll talk about 360 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,200 that as we go on. But when I but this is kind of leading me to another point, whomever 361 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,680 the bills wide receiver is, I think they have to and this is going to be kind of a dig at 362 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:24,080 Joe Brady. I think they have to find a talent that scheme proof, because I don't I think 363 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,800 Joe Brady is a solid offensive corner. I've liked what he could do. I'm really excited 364 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,360 to see what stamps he can put on this offense with his own flavor in the off season to build 365 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:39,920 into next year. But what we saw was he had a talent in Stefan digs, he had a talent in 366 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:45,080 Khalil Shakur, he had a talent in Dalton, okay, that I think are all talented. But they're 367 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,160 not explosive to the point where they're scheme proof talents where they're going to produce 368 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,520 no matter what kind of play design you put up for them. And I think that that's a lot 369 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,920 of what suffered in some of the lulls for the offense late in the season was they didn't 370 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,400 have somebody who's like, this explosive talent, who you look at them and you're just like, 371 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,120 no matter what route he's running, he's going to be open, right? Like, it's and it's doesn't 372 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,240 have to be schemed that way either. Like, there doesn't have to be a rub route involved, 373 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,920 it's just going to be he's always going to have separation. And so I think that that's 374 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,600 really what they're looking for. And that's sort of what I see. From a conch, he is a 375 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:26,160 way that he is explosive in every direction. And it's sort of like, he makes himself available. 376 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,440 He's like peak of his career Cole Beasley when it comes to finding soft spots, but a 377 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,520 bigger and better after the catch route runner. You don't think there's already though you 378 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,280 don't think he brings like a duplicated skill set with Shakir and with Kincaid, because 379 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,480 like we have zone beaters and Makanke is a big time zone beater. I mean, we need man 380 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,080 beaters, you know, but I think he's got man beaters. That's what I mean, though. Yeah, 381 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,240 I think that's the thing for him is that he he can offer the same skill set that we've 382 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,680 proven we can utilize with Shakir and Kincaid, but has the extra layer of juice. Shakir does 383 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:06,160 not have explosive short area speed. And that's that's what I think that I'm looking for is 384 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:11,120 somebody with explosive short, short areas, quickness and speed, because that's how you 385 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,360 beat man is you have to have somebody who's going to hit the top of their break and move 386 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,800 in some direction that nobody can stay with them. Because Josh Allen has the gun to zip 387 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,680 a ball onto a spot anywhere. If he trusts that the player once they hit the top of the 388 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,720 break is going to shake any coverage they have on them. 389 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:33,120 Yeah, that's fascinating. I have not yet not yet gotten into my my film bag with a lot 390 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,520 of these these wide receiver candidates here. But Makanke is definitely one I'm going to 391 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,000 keep an eye on. Dude, there's just it's an embarrassment of riches in this draft. Like 392 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,000 you've got Mitchell and worthy the two kids coming out of Texas or probably going to go 393 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,400 in the top half of the second round if not the first round. You've got Xavier Leguette 394 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,760 from South Carolina. Yeah, I love that. He's very good. He's very good. And again, you've 395 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:01,480 got a guy like Keon Coleman who I've seen a lot of bills like font bills fans fawning 396 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:08,480 after he feels like a dude because of his size catch radius, body control, route running 397 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,680 abilities. He feels like a dude who's going to go earlier on. Like if he is available 398 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,240 for like a Cincinnati who might be losing both Tyler Boyd and T Higgins, he has that 399 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:23,360 immediate 50 50 ball guy replacement for Joe Joe Burrow that they covet so much and that's 400 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:29,240 in that scheme. So I don't think Coleman falls. But yeah, lad Makanke out of Georgia, six 401 00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:33,560 foot one eighty five, I think six foot one eighty five. That's always he's got strong 402 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,200 like West Wilker vibes. Yeah, when you watch when you watch a shorter 403 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,440 Walker, yeah, Edelman Walker, Beasley, but with a little bit more with more explosiveness 404 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,120 than any of those guys. Exactly. He's like he would be like a second round version of 405 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,460 JSN coming out last year. Right. Yes. Absolutely. Exactly. Yeah. So you know, there's some 406 00:34:52,460 --> 00:34:57,560 player and the other thing I want to see for the bills is like either somebody who's an 407 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,560 absolute explosive talent in terms of short area quickness and man beating ability or 408 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,560 somebody who's just a giant monster because like I just you know, you don't see there's 409 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:13,800 nobody in the bills receiving room other than Justin shorter above six three. And you know, 410 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,360 there are some options coming out in this draft who are like the size speed guys who 411 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,800 have the super you know, long speed, very tall, great at the catch point, great body 412 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,920 control. And that's something that I think Josh Allen would would utilize. It's interesting 413 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,720 though because the bills started that way, right? Like that after they drafted Josh Allen, 414 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,440 they're like we're just going to get a bunch of big body receivers because they need wide 415 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,280 catch radius is wherever he puts it, they're going to grab it. It did not go well because 416 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:45,320 the coverage was always there and he was throwing picks everywhere. So yeah, I'm not sure. I 417 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,520 think there's there's a lot of it's going to be interesting. And that's why that's why 418 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,840 like I said, when we started the pod, I love offseason mad and GM time, because it's all 419 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,480 full of hope. Everything is possible. The build the build building a juggernaut is totally 420 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,080 on the table. Totally on the table. I think the only thing that is truly out of their 421 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:07,520 ability is to trade up enough capital to get Marvin Harrison here, which would be a dream. 422 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:13,520 Right. Like, I think it's in their ability. It's just the price would be so obscene. It 423 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,680 would be like, all right, we're going to, you know, pay Stefan Diggs salary and trade 424 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,960 him plus our first round pick for the next three years to take a top three, you know, 425 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:29,400 spot. Right. Exactly. Yeah, it's and it would have to be a top, it would have to be on the 426 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,160 top three. Yeah, because there's no absolutely. There's no guarantee yet that Chicago goes 427 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:40,720 QB, even though it looks like that from all the all rumblings they're going to. You've 428 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:45,400 got Washington, who almost definitely goes QB. And then I don't know. I don't know what 429 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,720 New England's going to do. Like three seems high for a guy like Jane Daniels, if he is 430 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:54,760 the only one left on the board at that point. So but New England might reach for him at 431 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,400 that point and be very happy with the Heisman winner or they could draft or they could go 432 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,360 sign Jacoby preset draft Marvin Harrison there and and call it good. But yeah, yeah, it just 433 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,880 it seems unrealistic. The bills get that high to get a guy like Marvin Harrison, Jr. But 434 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,720 lots of other options on the table. Yeah, for sure. Well, and that's the thing too is 435 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:17,760 the thing that, you know, most draft punits have been talking about for years now is that 436 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:23,560 some of the most, you know, exciting talents, young talents in the wide receiver field in 437 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,200 the NFL are second and third round picks. You know, there have been a lot of draft 438 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,680 bus in that first round in the wide receiver, you know, as far as wide receivers goes. And 439 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,160 so I think that, you know, that's why the double dip is so interesting to me. Maybe you spend 440 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,440 your first on the best defensive tackle on the board, and then you go two and four, you 441 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,800 know, with wide receivers. And I think that could be possible too. 442 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,480 Oh, yeah. I mean, some bills, Bill's mafia, social media will be unbearable. If that's 443 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,160 the direction we go, if defenses, we make yet another defensive first round. 444 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,080 Another defensive lineman. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, at that point, you got to go with 445 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,080 best player available. Right. Well, there's a reason that that happens. It's because the 446 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:09,240 guys who have the body and the athleticism combo to do that are not they don't exist 447 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:12,520 in the third round. They just they're gone. Like, and that's on the offensive and defensive 448 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:18,720 line. That's why trenches are drafted so highly. It's because you cannot get athletes at the 449 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:23,160 size you need them to be at in order to compete at the NFL unless you go high. 450 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,120 That's why people are always splashing around in the trenches with with one of their first 451 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,080 three picks year after year, even if it's not a pressing need. Yeah. 452 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:36,280 Yeah. For sure. One one year, one always one injury away from it being a pressing need. 453 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,320 I've got I've got two quick notes. I think I think we're wrapping up here because we're 454 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,640 going to, you know, we'll get deeper into free agency as we go. 455 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,920 Two quick notes. One, before we started the season, before that Jets Monday night game, 456 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:58,320 I I talked about Dalton Kincaid breaking the all tight end rookie records. And I was wrong. 457 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:04,840 He he broke, you know, the highest was 35 in 1962 by Ernie Warwick. As far as tight end 458 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:11,000 receivings. Kincaid got 73 receptions crushed that one. Highest with yardage was 482 again. 459 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:16,160 Ernie Warwick, Kincaid went for 673 crushed that one. Yeah, but something about our rookie 460 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,080 tight ends two touchdowns. That's it. That's all they get. And so he tied that one. So 461 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:26,040 he didn't beat all of them. I still believe I'm behind in our bourbon bets by two bottles. 462 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:31,480 I think I owe you two bottles. But I've come back. I've come back by one bottle. And I 463 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,920 would propose that I still send you to and maybe you send me one and we actually make 464 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,000 that happen. Just because it's fun to buy bourbon for people. 465 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:45,480 It is my bourbon are our preseason bourbon bet for this season. You epically failed. 466 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:50,960 Do you remember what it was? Do I did I roll with the Oliver thing again? He'd leave the 467 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,600 team. No, no, this game. Okay, you had a couple of predictions. So these were not bourbon 468 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,800 based, but your predictions were Greg Russo over 10 and a half sacks. Oh, God, but everybody 469 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,960 had that. Yeah. And then he he just you had James Cook over 11 and a half total TDs. 470 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:12,520 Oh, God, what was I suppose he did not get and no, I think that you probably were right 471 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,240 on the money betting he'd be a focal point of the offense. It's just that when they got 472 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:19,960 down in the red area, he was never the target. He was not running a minute. It was usually 473 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,120 a short yardage back or Josh Allen. And then you had digs and Davis both have a thousand 474 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:30,880 yard seasons. And so you missed on Davis hard. This is probably on record my worst season 475 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,320 of preseason predictions in a really long time. 476 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:41,080 Mine, mine were also bad. I had Greg Russo over 10 sacks. I had the bill's chiefs game 477 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:46,120 in November ultimately decides the number one seed in the AFC. That wasn't true. I had 478 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:51,600 Gabe Davis leads the team and reception TDs not true. Right. Like I whiffed on all I 479 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,320 whiffed on three. And then half whiffed on the concade breaks all T rookie records because 480 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:01,400 he just missed the touchdown ones. Right. But the bourbon bet was you bet the Patriots 481 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:07,320 were number two in the AFC East and offensive DVO a behind the bill. I forgot about that. 482 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,560 I zigged when everyone else I tagged and I bet that the Patriots are fourth dead last 483 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:19,720 in offensive DVO a which they were. Congratulations. Thank you. Oh, God. Oh, God. That is terrible. 484 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:24,040 Talk about looking in a mirror and just being utterly disappointed with what you see. Dear 485 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:31,960 Lord man. All right. God, what was I I but I was buying in fairness to me the preseason 486 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,200 hype train coming out of Patriots camp. Yes. Jones look good. Callihan looked like he had 487 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:44,080 fixed whatever the hell was going on. Right. Like and their offensive line if healthy was 488 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:49,320 going to be okay. JJ, do you know how bad the offensive line playing the AFC was this year? 489 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:56,080 AFC East, the Buffalo Bills and pass a pass black win rate or six overall this year. Top 490 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:02,400 10. Right. And I think we can all agree they passed the eye test with that too. 30 31 and 491 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:11,600 32 Patriots, dolphins jets. Wow. Black win rate and respective order. Right. Dang. Okay. 492 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:17,360 Yeah. Crazy. I mean, yeah, that would presume they were all bottom third, but I would never 493 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:23,120 imagine they were the bottom three teams and pass and pass black win rate. Terrible. Let's 494 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:28,280 hope that, you know, the dolphins aren't the dolphins are in cap jail too. So they might 495 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,640 not have the money needed to fix any of their tackles or anything. Similarly, you know, the 496 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:39,640 jets have some some some cap room. The newing of Patriots are completely rich with cap right 497 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,960 now. So they're likely they could fix it in one off season. They probably could. And my 498 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,400 guess is they're going to make it a priority. Yes, for whatever young I mean, they just 499 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,560 saw what happened to Bryce Young in Carolina, they're going to want to fix the offensive 500 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:57,080 line before they put, you know, inevitably in a rookie starter back there. Right. Yeah, 501 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,760 absolutely. All right, JJ, I think we have set a pretty a pretty neat table for the off 502 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,800 season. We've identified the positions of need. And now we're going to break out more 503 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,360 thoroughly pod by pod and talk about each of these position areas from a free agency 504 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,800 and draft standpoint. We're also going to bring in our friends of the pod, not friends 505 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,580 of the bills, our friends who are fans of AFC East rival squads on the pod to give their 506 00:43:21,580 --> 00:43:26,200 takes on what they feel like their squads need to do in order to challenge the bills 507 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,680 and keep them from winning a fifth consecutive AFC East championship. So we got a lot of 508 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,400 great off season potting to do JJ. And of course, we still have the Super Bowl coming 509 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:39,520 up in a couple of weeks, which will be a miserable heart wrenching experience yet again. But 510 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,880 until then, like, share and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, Google Apple Spotify. 511 00:43:44,880 --> 00:44:13,360 And as always, go bills, go bills.