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Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread podcast.

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We are week 12.

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There's a bit of a pep in the step of Bill's mafia, because we have an actual Bill's victory.

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And not like Bill's over Tampa Bay victory where you're like, I guess they won, or Bill's

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over Giants victory where you're like, each didn't deserve to win, but they got one.

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This was like a real full blown.

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Bill's dominating the opponent looked like a team that could compete for postseason,

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you know, excellence.

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Josh Allen was having a blast out there.

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First time I think we've seen that in a long, long time since the Dolphins game even.

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Yeah, a lot of what we thought was wrong with the offense seemed to have been at least marginally

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and at least hopefully in a small sample size cured.

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The defense was dominant as ever, which was wonderful to see it's not hard against this,

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you know, the Jets offense to be dominant, but they were.

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And you know, the Bill's cruise to a 32 to six victory, I'm feeling really good.

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Dan, where are you at?

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I'm happy that we have purged the curse that is Zach Wilson upon this Buffalo Bill's house.

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It was nice to see, especially after that opening week game in such wonky, weird, self-destructive

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fashion come out and play for the most part, a relatively clean game on both sides of the

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ball.

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And while there's a lot to digest on the offensive side of the ball, JJ, I was also impressed

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with the defensive effort.

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And I understand we're grading on a curve because the New York Jets do not have a good

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offense in Zach Wilson.

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The aforementioned QB that has haunted our dreams for the past three, three and a half

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games has been benched, but the Buffalo Bill's defense did a great job of actually turning

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the ball over.

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And it was amazing to see Rizul Douglas, our trade deadline pickup, who is now fully immersed

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in the playbook, really find out ways to exploit this McDermott defensive scheme to his to

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his strengths.

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Do you AFC defensive player of the week, two picks in a fumble?

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To me, there's a lot to talk about about the Bill's offense, offensive side of the game,

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but it's hard not to feel hopeful with Rizul Douglas also picking up some production slack

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that the injuries on defense left behind.

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So all around some really good, really good tidbits to discuss here.

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And I mean, we could start there if you want to start Bill's D versus Jets.

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Oh, I think it's that's a good place to start.

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We can round out with the offense.

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And with a brief aside, I think to something that had been missing for a long time was

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all three phases of the football team had outstanding showings.

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I think that, you know, speaking of kind of exercising demons, the the Jets player who

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returned the punt for a touchdown to win the game in overtime week one was the player also

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who coughed up the fumble on the very first play of the game.

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Gibson, yeah.

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Yeah.

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So Gibson gives one up to Reggie Gilliam and Quentin Q. Morris.

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Reggie Gilliam's hit was the kind of old school NFL football hit that you don't see

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often without, you know, laundry littering the field, but he it was clean.

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He was strong and pop that ball out to give the ball the bills, the ball right in the

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Jets territory, and, you know, we can talk about offense in a minute.

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But yeah, I think, you know, starting on the defensive side of the ball, what we saw was

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the defensive line was dominant.

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These bills defense, even with injuries, even with some things going on the past few weeks,

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have looked to turn a corner in terms of stopping the run.

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They're less leaky in terms of yards per carry.

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They're quite a bit more of reestablishing the line of scrimmage, you know, in the backfield.

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And I've liked what I've seen also from Terrell Dodson.

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I think that, you know, we were rightly wrong or we were rightly critical of him early in

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the season and even last year in, you know, relief of Tremaine Edmonds at times.

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But Terrell Dodson looks to be a player who's who's come into his own to understand what

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he does best and how to do it best.

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Even looked to be pretty solid in coverage at times when he's called on it.

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And I think it's probably partially Terrell Dodson having more snaps and getting in the

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groove of games and then also I think it's probably Sean McDermott a little bit protecting

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his player from the things he knows he'll be weak at.

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Not putting Terrell Dodson one on one with Breeze Hall and coverage underneath, but instead

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having Terrell Bernard take that assignment and Dodson, you know, having a different route,

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you know, a different rule in the zone or something like that.

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So I really like the bill's defense.

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I think that Ed Oliver continues to be a wrecking ball.

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I think that he, you know, he doesn't show up on the stat sheet every week, but every

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week he shows up with effort and he proves that he can be contained one on one on that

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lot and he must be doubled to not have him all up in the kitchen.

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He got his sixth stack sack of the season, which is a career and it earned him $250,000.

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If he gets two more this season, he gets a bonus of $500,000 in this country.

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Betting on himself.

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If only that had happened last season, I would have won our bourbon bet because what did

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I say?

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I said Oliver was going to lead the team in sacks.

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He still won't this year because of Leonard Floyd, who also had a monster game against

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the Jets.

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Unreal and one of the, you could argue, maybe one of the best being free agent signings

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that we've seen in recent memory.

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I don't think there is a way to keep Leonard Floyd on this roster and we can talk about

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that in the off season, especially with the season.

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He's probably going to get a, you know, he's older in his career, but he's probably with

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the showing he's putting together this year with the bills.

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He's probably going to get like a two to three year, 20 plus mil per year deal.

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He's coming out.

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He's as a, even if it's just designated pass rusher snaps, kind of how the bills use

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him because he's not been an every down defender, but when he's in, it's, it's amazing.

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And so yeah, I think the defense looked good.

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The front, as I mentioned, was solid and this, you know, that's to be taken a little bit

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with the grain of salt.

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They were playing against probably four of five jet starters who had no business being

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on an NFL field because they, you know, they're down to their third or fourth option at right

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tackle.

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They had to move a guard to a full time tackle position on the line.

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It was, I think their, their Dwayne, it was a Dwayne Brown got injured in the first quarter.

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So they lost one of their tackles in the very first quarter and had to shuffle again.

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And that was the seventh or eight different lineups that they played with this season.

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And I can't imagine, I mean, I think Zach Wilson is a terrible quarterback for some

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reason.

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He had the bills number for two of three meetings until this one now it's two or four, but,

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but he did, you know, he was running for his life brought down what six, five and a half,

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six times, six total sacks, six bills that afternoon and 11 separate other hits.

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So 17 times he was, you know, put on the ground either for a sack or, or just for, you know,

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being beat up.

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So, um, I think that that was something to be said, and that's not going to be the case.

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We'll get into the preview for the Eagles, but that's not going to be the case this week.

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The Eagles interior offensive line is probably one of the best in the entire league.

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Their tackles are somewhat gettable, but, uh, but yeah, this Jets Jets offensive line

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is really, really bad.

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And it, I mean, it, it showed, but here's the thing about the bills.

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There's, as we pod, they are tied for second in the league in total sacks, but it has felt

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like a lot of those games have come in spurts and fits.

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And we've seen this defensive line really struggle against inferior offensive lines

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at times.

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I'm thinking back to the Giants game is a really good example.

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Um, they had ended up having four sacks that game, but it didn't feel like they were impacting

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the game in many other ways.

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So the fact that they were able to turn it up and I think finally turn it up against

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lower level competition, which again, this is something that both sides of the ball have

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struggled with through the bills pretty consistently this season to show up for a game for a, a

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must win game against a team that is very beatable.

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And to show out with that kind of effort on your, on your home turf after a week of turmoil

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after firing Ken Dorsey, I think was as much a professional on the field statement as it

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was an emotional statement for where this team is right now.

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Um, you had mentioned the whole team looked like they're having fun again.

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I do.

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I don't, I don't know how much of that that does or doesn't have to do with Ken Dorsey.

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No one know, no one is going to know, but what's really clear is these bills had a coming,

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coming home moment when they realized time was running out and they needed to refine

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the brand of football that this team has been known to play in the McDermott era since 2017.

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And I think they found it against a, again, listen, a deficient offense, but a really

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good defense and a team that is still in the playoff hunt.

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So I think it was an important statement for the bills to make a divisional opponent,

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a conference opponent, and a dominating win in all three phases of the game was something

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that they for sure needed.

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Um, you know, JJ, we are in an interesting point with this Buffalo bills defense because

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this is the unit we're going to roll out there.

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And this unit by average, a just still one of the oldest in the league.

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We have quite a few games left and if this team makes it to the post season, um, there's

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going to be more, more tread out.

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There's going to be less tread on these tires is the effort that we saw from the jets against

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the jets on Sunday in your mind, sustainable for the long haul.

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And we're going to, we're not going to go into full pregame territory here, but I'm

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keeping it at top of mind.

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We've got to play an Eagles defense that loves to pound the ball and be physical.

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Uh, Dallas Cowboys offense that is really kind of finding its way offensively with

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Dak airing it out, but finding more of a run game as well.

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Um, even though that team just throws an absurd metrics, all Dallas wants to do is bomb.

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Um, you've got the LA charges coming up where their defense is a mess, but it's still just

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in Herbert it while there were great flashes against an inferior offense, where there are

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things that you saw about this defensive effort that you think are sustainable down the road

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for this team as they try to make a playoff run.

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I'm going to cheat a little bit because I think the one thing that would be sustainable

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is that thankfully knocking on wood for everybody's benefit.

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Um, the offense has, has maintained their health.

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And I think that this is kind of one of the, you know, the best defense is a good offense

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type of analogies is that the defense is greatest skill is their defensive front, that line.

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And the line can pin its ears back if, if a team becomes one dimensional, if a team feels

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like they have to pass the ball, it gives the, the defense a great fit because I think

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that, um, on the front level, I'm confident in this, this line because I don't think it's

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the old, you know, it's, it's not the oldest part of the defense.

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I think that the thing you worry about is the secondary, the CBs keep going down and

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in bunches think that Russell Douglas has stabilized things a little bit, but he has

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not, you know, he hasn't had a career that where he's been like Mr. reliable either.

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So you worry a little bit about, um, he has some injury history.

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So, um, it's really the kind of thing where if the defensive line can stay healthy and

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the offense can maintain, you know, somewhat, you know, of, of this momentum of keeping

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games, you know, out of reach for the other team, one or two scores up all the time.

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I think that that's going to be the trick for an aging defense admittedly to maintain,

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um, pressure and to make, you know, make turnovers, that sort of thing.

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Cause I think that's what it is.

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I think that you saw, you know, in six weeks, the bills hadn't really led by more than one

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score at any time in any game.

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And once they did, again, it's Wilson, it's Tim bullet, but they were able to put the

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opponents in a position where the opponents felt like they had to make something happen.

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They couldn't play conservative.

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They couldn't, you know, play field position.

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And those, those things are going to be the savior for this defense is as dinged up as

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they are as slow as they are at times.

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Um, and then as old as they.

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I do, I do think that the capacity, but I think it all hinges on the offense.

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If that makes sense, you know, I think defense has the scheme, it has the bodies to do it,

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but they have to play on the terms that are set by the offense.

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They play on the opponents terms.

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They're going to be failing us.

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Just like we saw in all the metrics while the offense was flailing, the defense looked

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to be suffering and not, not an elite defense by any measure because they had to play a

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game that they were built.

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I think you are, you're getting to the, the aspect of complimentary football that I hoped

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you would.

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I think I see, and I see you smiling.

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Um, I think complimentary football as McDermott has tried to define has been something to

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the effect of the offense needs to slow down its pace because our defense can't be on the

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field all the time, which is a true story.

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We have talked about this multiple times on the pod.

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I think during, during this hellaceous stretch that this team is going to face playing the

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Eagles next, then the chiefs, Cowboys, Chargers, Patriots, Dolphins, they're going to need

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to redefine that term of complimentary football.

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And I agree the offense is going to have to pour points on to keep pressure on opposing

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teams to really limit what their playbook, what they can roll out from their playbook.

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It is hard to stay committed to the run if you're an LA Chargers team, um, or if you're

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a Philadelphia Eagles team, if you're down 14 or 17 points, which is exactly the type

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of pressure that this Buffalo Bills offense needs to consistently apply.

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So complimentary football, I think redefined as the path going forward, because again,

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There are great things from this defense, albeit against a mediocre opponent and a sub park

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UB, but there are things here that I question their sustainability in the long run as well.

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Um, you got to hope this team stays healthy, but it seems every week someone else is going

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down and I love the adjustment of Poyer in the box.

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although this weekend will be a really big test for them against the Eagles.

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Um, sneakily, I think the chiefs might be too, but we can talk about that during the

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bi week, but they've done a really good job with it.

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But the box, it's, it just still looks really light and you're seeing more competent offenses

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because again, the Jets are not one when the bills are bringing that light box or that

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dime look specifically attack the pieces on the field, be it Terrell Dodson, be it Dane

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Jackson, uh, be it rap deep down the field where he is really struggling on coverage.

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It gives more efficient and more effective offenses a better opportunity to attack those

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weak spots on the defense.

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I think, I think there was a lot to like from this defensive events effort against the Jets,

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but I think we've got to grade it on a curve because we're not always going to be playing

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Zach Wilson moving forward.

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Well, and in fact, we're not going to be playing anybody who's even near Zach Wilson the rest

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of the way.

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Mac Jones, if he starts Bailey Zappy, I made them both a little better than Zach Wilson.

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Yeah, he's bad.

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Yeah, he's, he's bad.

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And I think that you're skewed, you're skewed a little bit by the good games he had against

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the bills versus everyone else.

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He looks, you know, far worse than Bailey Zappy or Mac Jones.

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But you're what you're saying is like, yeah, do you know who the only quarterback in the

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league is to beat the Philadelphia Eagles this season?

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I know Zach Wilson.

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Well that's the thing.

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That's the mystery of Zach Wilson.

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Like I don't think this guy is a starting NFL quarterback, but he has this weird kind

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of like superpower of showing up as this amazing game manager and an elite quarterback

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by any measure.

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But he shows up this amazing flawless game manager at different times against elite opponents

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and then against the giants and other teams that are that are less than he pukes all over

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himself and does that drop back 40 yards and fumble it clay.

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I know he's his career arc has been so bizarre, so bizarre to this point, but I cut you off.

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You were making a point there and I didn't want to cut you off.

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The only point was that, you know, yes, we're exact Jones in there.

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Zach Wilson.

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In fact, Mac Jones, but Zappy is the only game left on the schedule with a non elite

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quarterback and that is pretty terrifying.

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It definitely is.

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And I think it's a good segue JJ to talk about what the real defense of this bill's

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team needs to be, which is a well prepared and effective offense.

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What did you think about the the ringing in of the Brady era and Buffalo?

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Yeah, so if I had to to show a pie chart of the reason I think that the Buffalo Bill's

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offense looked as good as it is.

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I would probably credit Joe Brady, his calling of the game, his sequencing of plays, his

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building of concepts with like a 60% of that pie chart.

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I think that would put 20% of the pie chart on Josh Allen and then I'd give the remaining

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20% I'd split it between the running back room and the offensive line 10 each because

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really what I what we saw was the offensive players executed better.

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I think the shakeup of firing of Ken Dorsey, some of those guys into reality to realize

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they needed to prepare better.

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They needed to perform on the field better and not make, you know, timely mistakes.

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And so I think that just the shuffle alone was able to convince some of them of how serious,

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you know, of dragging their their, you know, baggage through the week and not preparing

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like they used to was really affecting the team.

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And then I think, like I said, 60% was the way that Joe Brady called the game.

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I mean, we saw, you know, continued things that were going on with Dorsey with, you know,

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a lack of use of Gabe Davis.

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Gabe Davis was out there as a run blocker and not targeted, no cap, no catches, no cards.

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Stefan Diggs, the big, big difference with Stefan Diggs became a role player on the offense

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instead of the only person you're forcing the ball to the, the number of option routes.

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We talked about how, you know, during Dorsey's leadership as the OC, be so many plays where

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Josh Allen is expected to come out on a two by two set shotgun, and they do one of six

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different route combinations with the four receivers out in the field.

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And he his only alternative to hitting somebody who beats their man is or finds a soft spot

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on the zone is to dump it off underneath to James Cook, who literally would just, you

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know, big if he did a play action handoff, he'd fake the handoff run through the line,

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turn around and just wait for the quarterback.

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And then, you know, it was kind of, it was vanilla, it was predictable.

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What we saw in Joe Brady was that he had, he scheme guys open, and this is what we've talked

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about time and time again of what was missing from the bill's offense is that yeah, there

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might have been options for Josh Allen, but it required him to see every receiver at the

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exact right moment that they were breaking open in order to make the right decision and

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then get the ball out on time and in pace.

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Couldn't happen against most of the defenses the bills played.

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Some pressure looks have messed that up.

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Some teams learned that they could blitz him if they threw him off the reads, he was only

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able to read one or two receivers, it was almost always an incomplete pass or an interception.

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And so what I saw from Joe Brady was he, you know, maintained mostly five man protections

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with his offensive line, maybe a sixth guy, he didn't do any of the stuff where Dorsey

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was keeping more people in the box protecting Josh Allen than out on routes, which makes

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it easier to cover.

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And he was leaning heavily on passes to running backs, which as for the person who was the

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OC at us at a team with Christian McCaffrey and really no other talent, I understand that

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completely you you establish an identity in a situation like that.

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And we saw it come through with both James Cook and Ty Johnson having a really excellent

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day as receivers as part of the game plan.

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Because you know, it's a simple concept, it's curious that this hasn't ever been you know,

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endorse these time it wasn't a focus is let's actually send a run running back on a route

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against what we know is a good matchup.

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Let's use motion a little bit to pre designate where they're going to be versus where the

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person that's responsible for covering them is going to be to give natural separation

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and hit them in stride and see what they do underneath.

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That happened over and over the jets.

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It meant that the offensive game plan was to absolutely attack the jets where they were

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weak where they were weak is kind of they have slower linebackers and they have excellent

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pass rush.

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And if you can get the ball out fast to a running back against subpar coverage, they

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are going to succeed.

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They didn't have super long developing routes that that past a clear Shakur was like the

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longest developing route of the game.

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There was a number of underneath routes that were planned.

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And there was a lot of plans to scheme guys open to make sure that they were pulling focus

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of those linebackers and putting them in conflict to really kind of open up routes to concave

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these the middle of the field you you hit this button so hard for weeks.

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The greatest hits.

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Yeah, the greatest they abandoned the middle of the field.

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So you must have been so happy.

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I was thrilled.

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I was thrilled.

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And again, the jets defense is good.

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And I think we should acknowledge they're good.

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And this bill's offensive struggle against them for what feels like going on three seasons

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now.

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What I liked the most about Brady and what he schemed up was that he was relentless in

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attacking the defense where it was weak.

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You mentioned a lot of the a lot of the pass routes to running backs, which I think was

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exceptionally important in this.

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But it also going back a couple of pods, we talked about the need of the bills to find

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their Travis ETM their workhorse.

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And we have been saying over and over again, James Cook needs 20 or more touches a game

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in order to really affect the game.

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Well, that's exactly what he got.

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James Cook got 17 rushes, three receptions, and also Josh Allen was able to spread the

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spread the ball around to seven different receivers.

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Another recipe we know for success.

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And it's interesting because the Buffalo Bills for the first time in seven weeks actually

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out rushed themselves when you include Josh Allen's designed rush attempts.

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They had 38 rushing attempts total to 32 pass attempts.

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So the balance was skewed, but the moments that they should but they were using the

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run and the way that we said they needed to, which was attack these light boxes to set

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up the passing game and get some really favorable matchups for some of these pass catchers.

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The jets clearly came in.

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Keaton Gabe Davis, which we had seen on film, they had done for the past few games, even

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going back as far as a year, two years ago to the first game they played week nine and

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20 22 against the Jets where Davis was being bracketed.

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This Jets defense is obsessed with shutting down opposing teams wide receivers, and they

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put so much emphasis on it throughout the course of the game.

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Brady just schemed up to take the stuff that they were leaving behind because it's a it's

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a resource limited.

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It's a resource limited scheme.

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Any time you're going to play an opposing defense.

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So if they're really good at locking down one aspect of the field, you know they're

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leaving another one open and the frustration we had with Dorsey and he would stubbornly

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attack the thing that the opposing team wanted him to.

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Right.

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Where Brady was like, no, if you're going to lock down our outside, I'm going to use

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the middle of the I'm going to spread the ball out to the middle of the field.

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I'm going to attack there where your DB's and your linebackers don't have the boundary

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as kind of an extra defender.

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And we're going to make you defend the area you're most uncomfortable.

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And he was relentless with it over and over and over again in that commitment to attacking

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an opposing team's weaknesses for the first time.

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And what felt like an Eon, it's felt like the Buffalo Bills rather than having the pace

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of play dictated to them, we're dictating the pace of play with this high powered offense.

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Well, and I think that, you know, I mentioned a 10% share of the productivity pie goes to

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the offensive line.

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That's not the city where flaws.

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I think that there was a lot of pressure you saw in Josh Allen on passing down specifically

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why they were trying to scheme things open quick and underneath.

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And then on top of that, oh, Cyrus Torrance is becoming a problem in pass pro.

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He looked pretty solid on a lot of running snaps, but I think he's hit a bit of a rookie

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rookie wall.

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We saw this with Spencer Brown.

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We saw this with even going all the way back to Deon Dawkins rookie year starts to tail

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off after about 10 games because, you know, the season is so much longer at NFL.

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And so hopefully he's he has a chance to get rested up and ready for the stretch run at

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the buy.

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But I think that, yeah, you saw, you also saw things that we've been talking about with

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this this team and that yeah, they hit the middle of the field.

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They basically said, okay, take our wide receivers away.

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That's your and they leaned into it.

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I think that's the other thing that's the big difference between Ken Dorsey and Joe Brady

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is he leaned into what he thought that he anticipated what the defense was going to try to do to

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them and he made that that avenue of attack their weakness.

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So like the Jets advertise it, right?

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They are not a team that disguises pre snap a whole lot.

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They pretty much run out the defense they're going to play and the defense telegraphs what

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they're going to do the wide receivers.

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And it was so infuriating to watch Dorsey constantly tell Helen to throw into the teeth

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of that scheme, but Brady didn't.

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What they want, yeah, exactly what they want you to do well and even solid after the game.

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And this was the most points scored on this Jets team since to see in two seasons since

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2021.

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Yeah, since 2021.

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So in two seasons, this is the most points any one offense has scored against them.

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And the only two wide receivers who have a touchdown on the Jets this season are Stefan

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Diggs in week one and Khalil Shakur in, you know, this week 11.

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And so with that going on, you know, they tell you what they're going to do and then

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they do it.

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And can Dorsey would just stubbornly last year and this year that in the first meeting

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say nope, we're going to be to with the thing we're good at, which is our outside wide receiver

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Stefan Diggs get out there and run directly into double coverage, Josh Allen thrown an

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interception to him.

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And so basically, it was just so frustrating.

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But it was great to see Joe Brady say no, okay, you do that do whatever you want.

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We have the weapons.

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And I think that's that's been so much of the frustration and so much of the reason

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Bill's mafia has been calling for the Dorsey change is that we see this team with a stacked

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offense with all these weapons.

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And then we just stubbornly try to do one thing over and over and it gets shut down.

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And, you know, it looked it looked good.

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I think, you know, Josh Allen, Eric, he looked like he was having a good time.

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He seemed rejuvenated.

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And, you know, again, who knows how much of the change that is.

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If that was just him coming awake because he was like, Oh crap, I just got my.

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Friend fired, right?

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Like I need to play better than that's fine.

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If that's what it took that just means that McDermott pulled the lever he needed to pull

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in order to get things fixed.

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Yeah, it was, um, it was all around again, a win for the the Twitter X threads coach

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couches or couch coaches rather.

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And again, I that sounds kind of like pejorative and derogatory.

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Those are a lot smarter than we used to be.

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We've got a lot more tools at our disposal for analyzing the games.

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I mean, we're we're a couple of amateurs that watch film and break down stat stat

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packages and stuff like that to try to better understand the game.

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And you saw it in Pittsburgh as well with the firing of Matt Canada.

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A lot of these things they've come off and they feel like fan service and the firing

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of Dorsey probably felt that way, especially with the the eruption of analytics nerds that

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were like, but Dorsey is leading one of the third most efficient offenses in the league.

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Right.

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And I those are my people I vibe with those people.

442
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But if you are only looking at it from the birds eye view and not seeing the play to play

443
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:16,560
lack of detail, the play to play lack of creativity, then no, if you're just looking at the numbers,

444
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,880
you wouldn't understand why moving on from Dorsey was the move that needed to happen.

445
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,880
And again, you and I, we didn't justify the firing.

446
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,640
We didn't try to call it right or wrong on the last pod.

447
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,320
And we also have to keep in mind not to overreact.

448
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,280
This is only one week against a team again that has a good defense, but it wins on talent

449
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,720
more than scheme.

450
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:42,120
And Brady was able to exploit that coming up in Philly, while the defensive metrics on

451
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,560
that unit are not as good as they are with the Jets in a lot of regard.

452
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,200
That is a team that plays multiple fronts.

453
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:56,120
And those are the types of defenses, a la Steve's bagnola that have really affected Josh

454
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,120
and affected the way he plays the game.

455
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,920
So while the Jets were a great test from a really talented defensive unit, I think the

456
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:09,600
Eagles are really going to kind of put to the test where Brady is at schematically with

457
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,640
this team heading into the buy.

458
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:17,840
Because that that Eagles defense while vulnerable in certain areas, they can do a lot of wacky

459
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,240
crazy stuff that can confuse opposing QBs except Zach Wilson, because Zach Wilson can

460
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,400
cut through all that when he plays the Eagles.

461
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,320
But outside of Zach Wilson, it's confused nine other quarterbacks that they've played

462
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,320
this year.

463
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:34,520
Well, and I think that that might be just it is like, if you can develop a defensive

464
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,080
scheme that can confuse is all NFL quarterbacks except for Zach Wilson, I think you take that

465
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,120
one L a year, because he is definitely the outlier in so many different ways.

466
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,440
Dude, I don't know.

467
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,440
I mean, I get it.

468
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,440
Yes, I get it.

469
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,920
I just Zach Wilson.

470
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,680
I just yeah, Zach Wilson's career.

471
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,400
He is the player version of Urban Meyer.

472
00:30:53,400 --> 00:31:00,400
Like Urban Meyer will always count the Buffalo Bills as one of his two victories in the NFL,

473
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,920
a game that still to this day, no one can explain how the bills lost back in 2021.

474
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,360
And Zach Wilson's the same way.

475
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:13,920
He's just got some weird wins on his on his record that no one is really going to be able

476
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:19,440
to explain because the overall body of work has been severely lacking for that kid, unfortunately.

477
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,000
So yeah, yeah.

478
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,320
But I do think I do think we can say goodbye to the Zach Wilson era officially in New York.

479
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,920
I think while we may have reigned it, while we may have been a coronation ceremony for

480
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,200
a lot of his early success, I also think now we have put the final nail on the coffin to

481
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,920
his career with the Jets.

482
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,240
I think that's absolutely true.

483
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,520
I can't imagine that he comes back another season after this, especially now that they've

484
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,800
made the move in New York to move to Tim Boyle.

485
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:54,440
And here's hoping that Tim Boyle has an excellent year because we really need the Jets to beat

486
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,640
the Dolphins twice and do so much more for us.

487
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,280
Like we need the Jets to get out there and just shit the rest of the season.

488
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:10,160
They're likely going to just fade into an abysmal sad murky depth, but we can hope.

489
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,760
Did you see sauce gardeners tweets at the end of this game?

490
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,160
Oh, he was he was soft.

491
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,160
They were amazing.

492
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,160
He was so upset.

493
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,160
They were amazing.

494
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,680
That dude, I said at the beginning of the season, I said it after a week one in the face

495
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,600
of a loss and I will say it now, he might be the most overrated player in the league.

496
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,400
Like he just grabs and holds every time down the field.

497
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:37,360
He gives up on plays that that dude to me is the most overrated player in the league.

498
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,280
Well, it's like when they gave him the defensive rookie of the year award, they also handed

499
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,360
him a stack of get out of flag free cards that he just cashes in for all the DP eyes

500
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,480
because he just lets his whole game is like, I'm going to be tenacious and physical.

501
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,840
And like that's what the analysts will say.

502
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,120
But anyone watching with their eyeballs is like, Oh, you mean you're going to just basically

503
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,760
tackle every wide receiver on every route at the top of the stem so they can't get into

504
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,040
the break into their actual spot.

505
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,440
And then you're going to cash that in for a pass breakup when they can't get there and

506
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,280
like no flags are going to fly.

507
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,320
Yeah, he was really mad.

508
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:20,560
I think that it was exceptionally mad because the longest touchdown in the league for the

509
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,120
year to Khalil Shakir was on his coverage, according to the stepbook.

510
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,960
And so now he has that hanging over him that they've only given up to two touchdowns of

511
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,920
wide receivers and both were on his coverage.

512
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,360
Yep, and you can you can take that into the defensive player that you're voting if you

513
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,560
want to sauce.

514
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,920
I got one more aspect of this game I want to break down and then I want to move on to

515
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,920
the Eagles.

516
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:49,000
Josh Allen is obviously obviously a go so without saying so key JJ to so much of the

517
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,960
success that this team has had, but also will hopefully have moving forward.

518
00:33:53,960 --> 00:34:00,040
So moving on from Dorsey, it wasn't just the overall scheme and play calling the people

519
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,760
were were looking to analyze here after this Jets game.

520
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,880
It was how did Josh Allen do?

521
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,600
Did would Josh would Josh play with Instructure?

522
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,400
Would he throw up a couple of ugly looking picks?

523
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,360
Would he look like he would he was having fun?

524
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,600
All of these things were thoughts that were circulating amongst Bill's mafia Twitter and

525
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:28,920
Bill's mafia social media as we we waited with anticipation to see what Josh Allen would

526
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,840
look like in this new offense.

527
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,880
And I think there was a lot to like it looked and this is going to sound this is going to

528
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:45,440
sound horrible, but it looked a lot like how it looked under Dayball in 2021, the season

529
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,680
after Josh is, you know, coming out here where he just blew the doors off everyone on that

530
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,280
COVID season.

531
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,520
It was erratic at times.

532
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,600
There were definitely some questionable decisions made that Shakir throw was.

533
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:04,920
And it was signature Josh Allen, where it makes you look on and wonder at how he did

534
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,920
it.

535
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,280
And then as you see it over and over on instant replay, it makes you wonder why he threw it

536
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,120
right into triple coverage.

537
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,120
Exactly.

538
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,320
It was on a rope out of freaking frozen rope.

539
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:24,480
And so it was to me, it was a callback game, not because it was super efficient, not because

540
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:31,320
it had a 158.3 passer rating, but because it looks like the Josh of old, all the good

541
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,680
outweighing a lot of the erratic and a lot of the bad.

542
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:40,520
But those scales finally being tipped more to the the alien freak type of Josh Allen

543
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,800
that we have seen, as opposed to this kind of list list game manager that he looked like

544
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,400
he has been for the majority of the season.

545
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,080
So JJ, what did you see from Josh?

546
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,520
Well, I just like to take one tangent temporarily.

547
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,080
I've heard this phrase, you know, podcasters and the bill's beats will use it.

548
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:05,160
Seen on Twitter, of course, when people call a pass a piss missile, why just why?

549
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,560
I think that I have.

550
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,560
I've never heard that.

551
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:08,560
Have you?

552
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,560
No, no, no, right?

553
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,160
No, you've heard the phrase, though.

554
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,720
Yeah, I've heard the phrase.

555
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:13,720
Okay.

556
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:16,760
I don't understand where it comes from or why you have me thinking about it.

557
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,680
I don't want to know that, you know, the etymology of it, but, but yeah.

558
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,080
So that was a clear piss missile throw from Josh Allen.

559
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,760
And like you said, when you watch it, you watch it over and over, you're like, oh my

560
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,760
god.

561
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,520
And, you know, sauce definitely had a chance.

562
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,520
He had a stab at it.

563
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,440
That could have been an I&T.

564
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,600
But it worked out.

565
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,640
That's the kind of thing that like we don't expect Josh Allen to be a 158.3 perfect game

566
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,280
manager with absolute efficiency, throwing nothing over 20 yards.

567
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,440
And I think that what we do expect is for, you know, him to be this wild stallion who

568
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,840
only gets a QB rating of 108, but, you know, has those plays where you're like, I don't

569
00:36:54,840 --> 00:37:00,560
know why he declined to throw the easy open Dalton concade sitting alone in the zone and

570
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:07,200
instead forces it to the boundary, you know, to a, a running back and stride.

571
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,560
Like, but it worked out right?

572
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,560
Like this is a thing.

573
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,520
So, um, I think that that's what you expect.

574
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,040
And I think also one of the moments I've heard multiple people talk about it.

575
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,480
Especially on X or Twitter or whatever people were commenting on it.

576
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:25,440
He ran like 70 yards down the field to celebrate with Kalyosha Kerr, which you didn't see this

577
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,440
year.

578
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,800
Like there were times he was scoring just handing the ball to the ref and like dap it up a couple

579
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,080
of teammates as he ran to the sideline completely listless.

580
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,680
He even said on the sideline, you know, he's like, he said, I'm, you know, bleeping back.

581
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,920
I think I'm bleeping back or whatever.

582
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,480
And they tried to get stuff on digs talking to the media today after practice, tried to

583
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,000
get one of the reporters to say it.

584
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,400
He's like, come on, say it.

585
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,720
No, I think you're misquoting him.

586
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:51,720
What did he say?

587
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:54,560
The reporters like, I'm not going to say it.

588
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,480
And stuff on things like, okay, well, yeah, no, I think you said he's back and that's

589
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,480
what we saw.

590
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,440
So it's good to hear that from the players.

591
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,840
It's good that it seemed like Joe Brady made football fun for him again because I think

592
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,280
that Ken Dorsey all year was like, I am going to fix Josh Allen.

593
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,280
Right?

594
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,280
Like I'm going to, I'm going to put him in situations that he likes the, the half field

595
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:20,080
or full field reads option routes where he can like vibe with his, his wide receivers.

596
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:25,160
And I think that I want him down actually, because it was such a departure from previous

597
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,520
years where it's like, they made it simple for him.

598
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,200
And then he got to just kind of play football.

599
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,320
And if the read wasn't there, you got to do some crazy shit.

600
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,320
Yeah, man.

601
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:40,000
You know, and it's the advanced analytics nerds probably don't think there was much

602
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,400
of an improvement for Josh Allen in that game.

603
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,400
His time to throw was a little bit slower than I think everyone would want.

604
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,840
But Josh with his mobility and his ability to play outside of structure, he, he can

605
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,280
afford to do those things as long as he's clicking and making the right decisions.

606
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,560
And for the majority of the game, he was making the right decisions.

607
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,040
You know, his time to throw was 2.83 seconds, which isn't bad.

608
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,400
It's still a little bit long, but not terrible.

609
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,280
His aggressiveness, his aggressiveness index was only 6.3%.

610
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,640
He was throwing to wildly open receivers.

611
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:19,680
So statistically, he was making the decision to check down for the most part to a lot of

612
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,120
these open wide receivers.

613
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:27,200
And his average, his average yards at the point of catch was only 3.2 yards.

614
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,840
So he was choosing to check it down where he needed to.

615
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:37,400
And what we saw here, and I don't think you can call it decision, better decision making

616
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,160
from Josh necessarily, but he picked his spots a lot better.

617
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,120
The Shaqeeq, the Kulil Shaqeer throw being a primary example of that.

618
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,800
He was picking his spots a lot better to attack.

619
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:56,000
And it was because the scheme that Brady was running set him up much better to take a lot

620
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,200
of those chances.

621
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,680
He was no longer throwing into the strength of a lot of these defenses that Shaqeer throw,

622
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,560
that was inside the hashes, if I recall, or more towards the middle of the field, not

623
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,280
against the boundary.

624
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:14,880
So Josh making those adjustments and picking his spots to be aggressive in that way is

625
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:21,560
a credit to Josh, understanding the opportunities that the scheme allowed him, but also a credit

626
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,840
to Brady for setting up Josh in that way as well.

627
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:31,640
So I think, again, going to complimentary football, I think the thing that we, we, and

628
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:38,520
ended the Dorsey era on was that it was a he's a pretty good offensive coordinator,

629
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,360
not the right QB fit.

630
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,160
And it felt like Brady understood the type of QB he was working with and look to set

631
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,080
up an offense that played to a lot of Josh's strengths.

632
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,560
And I think he did that really well.

633
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,080
Josh played with Instructure for a majority of the game.

634
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:57,240
But when he took his shots for the first time this season, he made it count.

635
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:02,280
Absolutely, and I think that the other piece of that that you saw is that he, he had a

636
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,960
few runs, but he wasn't running all over the yard.

637
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,280
And I think that that's the kind of change that we had hoped would happen this season,

638
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,840
but still have the variance of taking those shots, throwing to the receivers that were

639
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,240
available, you know, like doing the things that Dorsey was trying to force without completely

640
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:21,680
erasing his opportunity to get out and mix it up a little bit.

641
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,560
And he had that one third down conversion he ran for.

642
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,200
And he not only did he run for a third down conversion when there was no pass available,

643
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,880
he slid after the sticks.

644
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,840
And it was just, I was like, wow, who's this guy?

645
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,360
I don't know what this guy is.

646
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,040
Yeah, it was really nice.

647
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,880
Yeah, it was, it was, dude, it was a throwback Josh Allen game.

648
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,520
And again, I know 2020 is like his peak season.

649
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:49,400
But to me, 2021 Josh Allen was that's, that's where I like fell in love with the gun slinger

650
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,000
wreck type that this dude could be.

651
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,800
And that's what this game felt like for the first time in a while.

652
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,800
Agreed.

653
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,680
And I think that you sort of throw out the 2020 Josh Allen was the COVID season, the

654
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,680
stadiums were empty.

655
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,240
There were so many other variables that changed the trajectory for so many players that year

656
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:07,640
that you have to kind of put an asterisk on that one.

657
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,600
And that was his first year of this kind of productivity, which means that the NFL defenses,

658
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,560
you know, need that one year of tape in order to look at his tendencies, come up with solutions.

659
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:22,320
And so I really think that the 2020 and beyond Josh Allen is the one that you should, if you're

660
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,560
going to look back at his career, you know, and hopefully 15 years, you could say, okay,

661
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,240
that's the guy, you know, that we had.

662
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:30,240
And I'm fine with it.

663
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:35,000
I think that, like I said, we saw some renewed juice, some renewed faith in his arm and kind

664
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,280
of willingness to take some chances.

665
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,840
But you know, hopefully that carries forward.

666
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,080
Do you want to review our predictions?

667
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,080
Our predictions sure to go wrong.

668
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,080
I do.

669
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,080
Yes.

670
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,080
Because I'm curious.

671
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,080
I think it's going to be easy.

672
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,880
We both said this was going to be a low scoring affair.

673
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,880
Yeah.

674
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,880
And you said 2014.

675
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,240
Yes, man.

676
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:58,120
Even though I've seen the game, I still feel good about that prediction.

677
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,920
Like if we had to predict it again, I'd be like, yeah, that's where I'm at 2014.

678
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,920
Right.

679
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,760
No, we both had the Jets over a half touchdown.

680
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,920
So we thought they'd break their bad touchdown streak and they did.

681
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,240
It was their only score of the game.

682
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,280
And I think it was 11 quarters.

683
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,520
I think I've isolated between 32 straight quarters, which would have effectively been

684
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,120
their season and like four.

685
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,120
32 drives.

686
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,480
Yeah, it was 32 drives and 11 quarters.

687
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,480
Yeah.

688
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,880
So, but they finished that and you know, I don't think anyone really cares that it

689
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,520
came against the bills because of the only thing that they scored the whole day.

690
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,120
You had Breeze Hall over 22 and a half touches.

691
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,920
I took the under and he ended up getting 15, 10 catches, five carries.

692
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,240
They just, they got to use that kid more, man.

693
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:44,240
I don't know what that is.

694
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,800
Well, he's also not, I think, I agree.

695
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,080
I think he's a talent, but the last four or five weeks and probably this comes down to

696
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,440
the, their poor offensive line and the injury, bad injury luck they've had on the offensive

697
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,840
line, but he's averaging like less than two yards per carry over five weeks.

698
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,480
So he's been, when he's had opportunities, he's not done well.

699
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:09,840
Well, and over the last five weeks, he is, he is in Zak Moss, Devon single territory

700
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:15,600
where he is being contacted behind the line of scrimmage at one of the highest clips in

701
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,600
the league.

702
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,000
So yeah, I mean, I think the offensive line is a problem.

703
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,000
Yeah.

704
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,520
But lowest yards before contact.

705
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:22,520
Correct.

706
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,520
Right.

707
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,520
Yeah.

708
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,520
But you know, and this is a little bit of a sidebar and a tangent.

709
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,880
I just feel like the way modern NFL defenses are built and the roof with this too high shell

710
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,760
that everybody seems to be playing to make this, to make football ugly and unenjoyable

711
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,320
and low scoring.

712
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,320
Yeah.

713
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,240
There has to be a reconfiguring of how running backs are used.

714
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:48,560
And it feels like the skill set that you would want in a running back to help alleviate

715
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,760
some of the defensive pressure you're facing as an offense.

716
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,680
It seems like Breez Hall is the total package.

717
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,880
And I'm just confused by how Nate Hackett is deploying him in that offense.

718
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,880
I'm not.

719
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,600
I don't think Nate Hackett is good.

720
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,680
And that's okay to say that because Tom Brady says the coaching is bad.

721
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,640
So if we're agreeing with the goat, there you go.

722
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,640
Yeah.

723
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:14,280
So the I had the bills winning even in a lower scoring affair of 16-10, because I think both

724
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,360
of us were afraid of, we were both afraid of betting on this offense, right?

725
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:23,880
Like we were afraid of thinking that the offense could do anything against the Jets defense

726
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:29,440
because the Jets had basically had their number for so many weeks or so many matchups.

727
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,720
Had Dalton Gate over half touchdown.

728
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:36,080
I think you were correct when you picked under because the Jets definitely scheme to try to

729
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,800
remove him from availability.

730
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,240
They did some things to squeeze the middle of the field where he liked to be.

731
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:45,640
And especially they made an adjustment in the second half because he had like what six

732
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,560
targets, five catches in the first half.

733
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,560
Yeah.

734
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,000
And I think like two or three targets and one catch in the second half.

735
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,920
So they did a good job blocking them down.

736
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,520
But again, it opened up stuff for other guys.

737
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,600
Yep.

738
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,160
And Joe Brady was willing to use those things.

739
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:04,520
Which is yes, we just wasn't force feeding or target funneling one or two guys.

740
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,520
You know, it's amazing.

741
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:14,320
It's just this Buffalo Bills offense is so talented and it's so deep and it's so healthy

742
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,920
at this stage in the season.

743
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,000
Like the only key piece we are missing is Dawson Knox from this unit.

744
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,800
And it is just I get it's a one game sample.

745
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,800
But everything we saw Brady do is the stuff that we have been begging for out of this

746
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,040
offense all season.

747
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,920
And I just hope it continues.

748
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,920
Me too.

749
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:39,960
So to continue our the last one we had was that we I thought that Von Miller would get

750
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,840
us back you correctly predicted he was still not going to do anything.

751
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,440
He's he's so off like I get he's recovering.

752
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:54,000
But even and I get probably a lot of it is like his recovery, his rehab, probably his

753
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,440
performance, but he's he's not the same sideline energy that he was last year when he was healthy.

754
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:05,160
So and we saw this a little bit with Trey White coming back from from an ACL terror last season

755
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:10,840
where he just it didn't feel like Trey until this season where he had a full healthy off

756
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,720
season only unfortunately to end injury.

757
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:19,080
But but Von feels like he's in that boat where he's still really physically limited.

758
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,520
Yeah, I think that, you know, many people have rightly pointed to the fact that he should

759
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,520
be giving up his snap share to AJ Epineza and Jack Lawson.

760
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:28,640
Yeah.

761
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,960
And that his presence or his value on the team, even though he's got the highest salary

762
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,960
of all of the defensive linemen, his value right now is just as a locker room leader,

763
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,160
you know, because he's not bringing it on the field snap by snap.

764
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,320
And so we'll see how that goes.

765
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,760
But but those were our kind of predictions for this one.

766
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:52,400
Let's transition over to the Philadelphia Eagles who will bring the juice.

767
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,600
They absolutely will.

768
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,600
Where do you want to start?

769
00:47:54,600 --> 00:48:02,160
Offense, defense, because I'll tell you, in both regards, these teams statistically JJ

770
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:07,000
are remarkably similar, even though their records couldn't be further apart.

771
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:13,880
Let's start with the the Jalen Hertz led Philadelphia Eagles offense versus the Bill's defense.

772
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,040
All right, I like that.

773
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,160
And I think that what we're going to see this week is certainly something we haven't seen

774
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:27,160
for the past few weeks, which is an offense that comes in with a lot of threats in offensive

775
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,160
talent.

776
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:33,280
I think that for, you know, the Broncos game, the Jets game, it really was okay, they've

777
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,360
got these two ways to hurt you.

778
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,840
If you shut those down as a defense, you've pretty much got them figured out.

779
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,800
The Philadelphia Eagles Jalen Hertz will run Deandre Swift is an amazing back.

780
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,280
AJ Brown has had a career resurgence.

781
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,680
Devonta Smith is lightning in the in the slot.

782
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,680
And then they've got a, you know, the the corpse of Julio Jones, who occasionally appears

783
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,800
for a possession catch in front of the sticks.

784
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,280
They're missing one of their key pieces, Dallas Goethe and I got her and I don't know that

785
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,800
he's going to be back for this one.

786
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,640
So yeah.

787
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,960
So that's the only part of their very talented offense that got them all the way to the Super Bowl

788
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,200
last year that they're really missing.

789
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,440
And they're they have one of their tackles is on is on I.R.

790
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,920
Roderick Johnson, so they're kind of, you know, they're they're also pretty healthy

791
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,040
as a team.

792
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,760
And they're able to bring it.

793
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,760
The anybody who watched the Chiefs Eagles Monday night game a couple nights ago will

794
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,720
tell you that they did not look like they were operating at peak efficiency.

795
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:38,800
The Chiefs defense is a very, very good defense this year.

796
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,600
Strange for me that it feels weird to say that, but they're really, really good.

797
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,160
They're playing really good.

798
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,160
Yeah.

799
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,680
So some of that has to be taken into account.

800
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,520
But the the offense still also for the for the Eagles didn't seem to be operating at

801
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,520
peak efficiency.

802
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:57,560
And hopefully they continue to have some like spurts and stutters against the Bill's defense

803
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,400
because the Bill's defense will need it.

804
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:05,400
I think that when the strength of this team is Jalen Hurts second reaction plays after

805
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:12,640
pressure to AJ Brown, DeMonte Smith, I think that or DeAndre Swift underneath, like that's

806
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:17,720
the part that that I think you have to worry about a little bit with the Bill's defense

807
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:23,560
because they do have a component in their offensive attack that can hit the bills right

808
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:29,120
where they hurt, which is, you know, some of the speed underneath some of the speed across

809
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:35,600
the center and the Bill's kind of slow aging or injury depleted secondary.

810
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,440
What are your thoughts on general ways that they might attack?

811
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,440
I agree.

812
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:47,520
I think the Eagles have been, I think by their standard, a frustrated offense this year.

813
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:52,080
They're still top 10 in rushing yards per game, passing yards per game.

814
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,000
They've progressed a little bit.

815
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:59,440
But Jalen Hurts is getting the the 2021 Josh Allen treatment where he had that baller of

816
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,320
a season last year, gets his money deservedly so and gets his contract after taking their

817
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:10,080
team to the Super Bowl has the most prolific offensive performance for a quarterback in

818
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,920
a losing Super Bowl effort in history.

819
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,480
So teams are like, you know what, maybe we don't want to let Jalen Hurts bomb it deep

820
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,760
to Smith and Brown all the time.

821
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:26,920
So teams have absolutely put that to that cover to shell roof on this Philly offense

822
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,520
at when they are opposing them.

823
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,600
And what it's led Philly to do is really become a volume rushing offense and they haven't

824
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:40,000
been able to take their shots downfield at the clip or the success rate that they could

825
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,000
last year.

826
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:48,960
JJ from an EPA standpoint, the Buffalo Bills are actually rated a smidge higher in the

827
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,680
in the rushing department than the Philadelphia Eagles are, which is something for a team

828
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,480
that's known as a rushing unit.

829
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,280
Now listen, it's three and four respectively in the league ranks.

830
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,920
So these are this is still an elite rushing unit, but they're doing a lot more of it with

831
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,000
volume this season.

832
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:11,120
Hurts is also battling some lower body injuries that keep popping up every now and then throughout

833
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,560
the course of the season.

834
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:19,200
So I think this Philadelphia Eagles offense is dying to attack this Buffalo Bills defense

835
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,760
downfield.

836
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:26,240
We have said it time and time again, opposing teams are attacking our injury replacements,

837
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:30,680
they're attacking danger and they're attacking Terrell Dodson in the passing game.

838
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,880
And I don't think this game is going to be any different.

839
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,760
I think in point of fact, the Eagles are probably going to throw to the opposite side of the

840
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:41,480
field that Rizul Douglas is on because of the game that he had against the Jets.

841
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,520
As a result of that, whoever the DB is that is partnered up with him on the outside is

842
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,800
going to have their hands full.

843
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:55,200
I think the Eagles are going to attack aggressively against this Bills defense in early and often

844
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,880
because unlike the Buffalo Bills, the Philadelphia Eagles, while they have a defense that is

845
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,520
vulnerable, that is a defense that can close the game.

846
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,560
So Philly's going to want to get out to a quick lead and they're going to want to let

847
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,920
their defense close things out like they did against Kansas City.

848
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,360
So I think absolutely the deepest parts of the field that you can imagine are where the

849
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,680
Bills are going to be most vulnerable.

850
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,360
And I think this game too, because of the strength of the interior offensive line for

851
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,760
the Philadelphia Eagles and the light boxes that the Bills are forced to play with, I

852
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,840
think is going to be subject to the Russian game.

853
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:35,160
I could see a lot of I could see a lot of play action, deep shots downfield that are

854
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,680
set up by a really effective Russian game for the Eagles.

855
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:39,680
And that all worries me.

856
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:45,160
I think the other thing, if you need to know anything about how good the interior of that

857
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:50,760
offensive line is for the Eagles, they're like 32 and 0 when they do the push push in

858
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,000
third and one or less situations or fourth and one or less situations.

859
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,000
It's kind of insane.

860
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,040
They did it multiple times against the Chiefs.

861
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:03,240
And even with Chris Jones anchoring the nose in those situations with help on their side

862
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,040
of him, they couldn't do anything.

863
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:10,760
Jason Kelsey and those boys in the middle are we're just getting it done and that it's

864
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,280
Landon Dickerson and Cam Jergens who are both kind of top tier guards.

865
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:20,640
And so their middle three, yeah, their middle three are just absolutely tops in the league.

866
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:27,120
I'm probably up there with Chiefs and Cowboys as the top top offensive lines in the interior

867
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,120
in the league.

868
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,280
Absolutely can be had on the edges.

869
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,520
And that I think is something that's going to be it's going to be interesting for me

870
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:38,240
because I think that, you know, they're probably scheming some things to try to slow down Leonard

871
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:39,240
Floyd.

872
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:44,080
They're probably going to shift protection towards him, which shall bring me to a prop

873
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,080
later.

874
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,440
But, but it's going to be interesting to see how the bills attack them around the edges

875
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:54,200
because you can't you can't do an inside move on those tackles to try to get to jail and

876
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:59,760
hurts because he is so lethal like Josh Allen like Patrick Mahomes if you give him an outside

877
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,760
to escape to if he gets out into the into the wings, he will kill you downfield.

878
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,000
And so it's going to be really interesting.

879
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,000
I think I agree with you.

880
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:13,960
I think that they're going to the Eagles path to victory will be get on the scoreboard early,

881
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,720
establish their run and then play action off of it because that's been their game script

882
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:20,280
for their nine their nine wins.

883
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,200
And they're already they're also undefeated at home.

884
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,320
And so that's something that brings you a little bit of, you know, it gives me a little

885
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,880
bit of apprehension about this one too.

886
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,880
Yeah.

887
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,120
And this is the bills are I mean, the bills really really are in must win territory.

888
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,960
Like if they drop this game, they go into the by they come back against the chiefs.

889
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,000
They've got still have an opportunity to make the playoffs.

890
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:50,080
But man, heading into the by seven and five as opposed to six and six would be pretty

891
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:56,000
amazing for this group, especially if the Jets can can do anything against the Miami

892
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,000
Dolphins.

893
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:02,760
But, you know, it's interesting you bring up Hertz coming down being said he's been

894
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,680
said 27 times this year.

895
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,920
There is a vulnerability on the edges.

896
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:15,880
But because the Buffalo Bills have been so effective at establishing the edge, I wonder

897
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:21,320
if this is one of those games because also we're we're going to see a lot of funky runs

898
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,320
as well.

899
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,360
I wonder if this is one of those games where you see Mick D decide that he's going to

900
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:33,720
play an odd front or he's going to flip Rousseau inside to give him a little bit of extra juice

901
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:35,880
in the run stopping game as well.

902
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:42,920
The versatility of Greg Russo and the speed of Dorian Williams to me are two key factors

903
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:48,120
in this game because I don't know that Buffalo can successfully guard the middle of the field

904
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,800
with Tyrell Dodson for as good as good as he was in that Jets game and the improvements

905
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:58,480
that he is making speed, the speed of this this Philadelphia unit being what it is.

906
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,200
And I include Jalen Hertz in that as well.

907
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,440
You're going to need some counters to that and you're going to need to get your NASCAR

908
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,040
package out on the field.

909
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,040
So I wonder if we're going to see Russo flipped inside more and I wonder if we're going to

910
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,640
see a few odd fronts that allows Dorian Williams to come up and play outside linebacker.

911
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,920
I think that's a good point.

912
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,680
I think that's a way that you can kind of angle things and just to add a note on my

913
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,280
comment about being afraid to take on the Eagles at home.

914
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:29,400
They've scored over 30 points in every contest at home this year except for one against the

915
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,680
Cowboys which was a win where they scored 28.

916
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:36,680
So it's also the kind of thing where they get their juice in Lincoln financial field

917
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:44,000
and the Bills have a hard time on that road environment because it's you know, the Bills

918
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:49,000
Mafia in Orchard Park has been referred to as one of the hardest places to play because

919
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,480
the fan base is so passionate.

920
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,000
But Philadelphia has been referred to as one of the hardest places to play because the

921
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,120
fan base is dangerous.

922
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,000
So I know right?

923
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,600
Shout if you're Santa Claus seriously.

924
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:09,320
In Orchard Park you'll get booed and like the energy is electric for the home team.

925
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,920
But in Philly you'll get hit with a battery.

926
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,480
So we'll see what this game shows.

927
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:16,480
But I agree.

928
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,880
I think there's some places that the Philadelphia Eagles are going to be trying to take advantage

929
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,840
of some weaknesses, trying to take advantage certainly of some absences.

930
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:30,960
If Dane Jackson and Mike Hyde who went out as well, if they're not back for this one,

931
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:36,520
I think that that's very worrying and they might not be their bulletin concussion protocol.

932
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,440
Taran Johnson also out right now I believe.

933
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,360
So it was Taran Johnson.

934
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,360
That's the one.

935
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:43,360
Yeah, that's right.

936
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:44,360
That's the one.

937
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,640
That's like the last domino.

938
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,560
If that one falls, I mean this Buffalo Bills defense I think is pretty cooked for the rest

939
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,560
of the season.

940
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,360
Well, and yeah, of course.

941
00:58:53,360 --> 00:59:03,080
And I think that also the Eagles on offense are going to, they're going to play their

942
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:08,400
game and if the bills show weakness, it's going to be a long day.

943
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,400
I think it's going to be a long day.

944
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,200
Do you want to flip over to the offense?

945
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,400
I do because I think this game has shootout potential.

946
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,240
I really do.

947
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,680
I mean I think this game has the potential to be very high scoring because a lot of the

948
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:28,000
vulnerabilities we've talked about with the bills, I mean I think are mirrored by the

949
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,560
Philadelphia Eagles as well.

950
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,320
So let's get into that.

951
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:39,000
To me, JJ, this matchup starts again that Philly defensive line, particularly that interior

952
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:46,360
defensive line led by one Jalen Carter who almost intercepted a spike from Patrick Mahomes

953
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,880
in that Monday night game.

954
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:48,880
That was so brilliant.

955
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,000
I'm like why has nobody done this in the NFL?

956
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,000
I'm like oh my gosh.

957
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,000
Seriously, it really was.

958
00:59:53,000 --> 01:00:00,280
You're going to see more guys I think try that and get collapsed on by 340 pound NFL

959
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,280
centers.

960
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,280
And who care?

961
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,000
And who, if you can survive the contact, why not?

962
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,000
Like you've literally just changed.

963
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,000
Why not try?

964
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,960
Because any time where an opposing team is spiking the ball like that, it is a desperation

965
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:12,960
mode.

966
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,520
You're sealing the game for your team and putting an interception on your stat sheet

967
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:17,520
as a nose tackle.

968
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:18,520
Like oh my god.

969
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:19,520
I know.

970
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,280
Who would just far outweigh the dangers?

971
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:23,480
Risk it all for it, folks.

972
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,880
Risk it all for it.

973
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:32,840
But no, I think it starts there and you mentioned the struggles that Osiris Tourans has had

974
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,280
in past protection.

975
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,400
I think he's going to be highly tested.

976
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:42,320
We've also seen Spencer Brown for as much as he has improved this season.

977
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,560
The bills have prioritized giving him help against elite edge rushers.

978
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:52,320
Who saw it with Max Crosby in the Raiders game where you leave in a Latavius Murray

979
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,760
to chip or a Dawson Knox to chip before they leak out for their route.

980
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:02,320
I don't know with how dynamic this defensive line is that Buffalo is going to be afforded

981
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:07,680
that opportunity to chip a lot of these elite edge rushers and help Spencer Brown in the

982
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,680
way that he has received help earlier on in the season.

983
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,360
This feels like a game JJ that's going to be one and lost on the right side of our line.

984
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,360
I agree.

985
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:24,120
And I think that, you know, when you look at the Philadelphia Eagles lineup, you know,

986
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,360
the defensive line, like you mentioned Jaylen Carter, who's he's a rookie, right out of

987
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:29,360
Georgia.

988
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,360
Yeah, he's a Rook.

989
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,360
Yeah, he's here.

990
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,360
Yeah.

991
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,680
Who I actually, you know, he's been surprisingly productive in the NFL.

992
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:40,360
I remember during the draft being like this guy is going to be a he's a clear, you know,

993
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,320
Marcel Darius to me, somebody who like struggles with his weight, like doesn't always seem

994
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:45,320
to give the effort.

995
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,640
But he's shown up for the, you know, they're unlocking him and Philly, he's unbelievable.

996
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,000
So he's unbelievable.

997
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,880
So good on them.

998
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,680
And I'm still and yet again, I'm stupid with the draft take.

999
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,640
But this is why we pod and we're not chance.

1000
01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:59,640
That's right.

1001
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:00,640
Yeah.

1002
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,680
But yeah, they're they're front Jordan Davis, Fletcher Cox.

1003
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,840
I think that the thing about Philly that if I'm a Philadelphia Eagles fan, I'm worried

1004
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:11,600
about a little bit is that they have a similar problem to the Buffalo Bills, which is they

1005
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:16,720
have a very aging defense and they're kind of injecting draft picks.

1006
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:24,240
They draft highly on defensive linemen, but they just recently had multiple, you know,

1007
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:29,480
free agent caliber players who who'd achieve free agency after their first contracts leave

1008
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,120
after their Super Bowl run, which always happens.

1009
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,440
You always lose talent after you get to the big game because other teams are like, well,

1010
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,440
I want that.

1011
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:36,640
That's a champion.

1012
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:43,280
And so that that happened, but they they double down, they draft highly and they try to rejuvenate

1013
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,760
with some some young talent.

1014
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:49,240
But I do see some aging players like Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham, you know, some of them

1015
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,360
who were there when when Sean McDermott was there as a DC.

1016
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,480
So there are some players that, you know, certainly are along in the tooth, but they

1017
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:02,440
still bring in and, you know, I worry so much about Hassan Redick against Spencer Brown

1018
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,880
and endosiris Torrance on that right side.

1019
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,920
I worry about Kevin Byard because when he was with the Titans, he, you know, I think

1020
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,640
he got a couple off of Josh Allen.

1021
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,960
So he tends to have pretty good games against against 17.

1022
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:22,040
So there's some players on that defense that worry me, but I don't think I think to your

1023
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:26,680
point earlier, they're not the same like hyper elite unit that they were when they went to

1024
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,160
the Super Bowl.

1025
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:29,560
Because again, they lost some talent.

1026
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:34,320
Actually, their defensive rankings and EPA per play and and different metrics are about

1027
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:35,320
average.

1028
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,960
They're great kind of in the middle of the league on defense.

1029
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:46,080
One thing that's worth noting is they're they're giving up the fourth worse, fifth worst, third

1030
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,920
down conversion percentage on the season, which I found interesting.

1031
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:50,920
Two points.

1032
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:51,920
Yeah.

1033
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:56,880
Yeah, they're, and I think back to week one, the game they had against the Patriots and

1034
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,600
McCorkle kind of found his stride in the second half of that game.

1035
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:05,160
And it was a game that honestly, the Patriots should have won, but they did about exploiting

1036
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:09,880
the middle of the field, which is where I think this defense has been hollowed out a

1037
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,800
little bit via attrition and injury.

1038
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:18,320
So I mean, this is a group that lost, I think, to Kobe Dean, who was one of their originally

1039
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,760
originally intended starting middle linebackers.

1040
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,840
You mentioned the Kevin Baird trade.

1041
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,400
That's because they lost Justin Evans, one of their safeties earlier on in the season

1042
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,400
as well.

1043
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:36,280
So this is a team that, while not as injury bit as the bills has suffered some injuries

1044
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:41,000
that have made it vulnerable in areas of the field where they were not last year.

1045
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,840
The defensive line still gets after it.

1046
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:48,520
I think this is still a top seven unit in total sacks this season.

1047
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:53,120
And the corners, Slay and Bradbury, those are still, that's still one of the best, even

1048
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,440
though aging one of the best cornerback duos in the league, but it's the middle of the

1049
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:58,440
field.

1050
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,960
So these teams have really been going after to sustain drives.

1051
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,680
And you see that time and time again, you mentioned that third down conversion rate

1052
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,720
for this defense allowed.

1053
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:12,680
I'll bet you if you were to look at a lot of the success charts against the Philadelphia

1054
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:17,200
Eagles, you're going to see a red hot zone right in the middle of the field where this

1055
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,560
team is really struggled to defend.

1056
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:25,400
So if the bills can keep a lot of this interior pressure off of Josh and give him a relatively

1057
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,560
clean pocket up the middle.

1058
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:32,680
I think you can see a really big Dalton Kincaid game because I don't know that they've necessarily

1059
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:37,960
got a counter in that linebacker room or in the safety room for a guy like Dalton Kincaid.

1060
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,520
And who's their, who's their nickel corner?

1061
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,840
It's Nicole Roby, right?

1062
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,320
So they X.

1063
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:45,320
Yeah.

1064
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,240
So Bradley Roby is on their team.

1065
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:48,680
It's Oh Bradley Roby.

1066
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:49,680
Nicole.

1067
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:50,680
Yeah.

1068
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:51,680
It's Bradley Roby.

1069
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,080
So I'm thinking of the old thing of the old Buffalo Bill.

1070
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,080
Yeah.

1071
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:58,520
And then there's Nicole Roby Coleman who won a game on a defensive penalty for the Saints

1072
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,280
or against the Saints.

1073
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,360
No that's Darius Slay and James Bradbury on the outside.

1074
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:11,640
And then they have Josh Jobby and Bradley Roby who will come in and play in the nickel.

1075
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:18,960
And that's actually a place that they they're a little bit, they're a little bit susceptible

1076
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:24,800
on that nickel so whether it's Clil Shaker or Stefan Diggs getting snaps on the inside

1077
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:30,160
I think you could see some nice productivity or or it's you know like you said Dalton Kincaid

1078
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:34,480
or Dalton Kincatch as he's been named on Twitter.

1079
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,680
Getting some some play in the middle of that you got.

1080
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:41,040
I know Swalby Swalby easily is so much better.

1081
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:42,040
For sure.

1082
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,040
Yeah.

1083
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,040
So I think there's some opportunities.

1084
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:49,080
I think that actually the thing that I saw changed you know kind of changing the narrative

1085
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,080
a little bit here.

1086
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:56,040
The thing that I saw that could help out is the Chiefs who admittedly have a better offensive

1087
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:57,400
line than the Bills.

1088
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:02,040
But the Chiefs were able to run some zone to the edges and off tackle plays a little bit

1089
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:09,680
of power against the the the strength of the defense for the the Eagles to some effect.

1090
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,720
And that was with Isaiah Pacheco who I think is a little bit more he's a little bit stronger

1091
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,240
overrunner than James Cook but he's definitely not faster.

1092
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:23,680
And so I see some opportunities there with motion with maybe some counterplay and definitely

1093
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:28,320
getting the tackle rep going because again I do not think there's a single tackle in

1094
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:34,400
the NFL who is a better pulling talent than Deion Dawkins who was just absolutely did

1095
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:41,080
you see him when he belly flopped on to Justin Clemens Ted I thought it was amazing or Michael

1096
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,080
Clemens.

1097
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:46,560
Oh my well it like the fact that he threw his arms out to the side like an airplane and

1098
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:53,880
like that whole play from top to bottom was like peak Deion Dawkins the show man right

1099
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:59,360
like he belly flops on to Michael Clemens Michael Clemens takes umbrage with this Michael

1100
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,760
Clemens tries to pick a fight with him Deion Dawkins then has one of the best like you

1101
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:09,480
know European League soccer flops I've ever seen for the refs doesn't get a flag on it

1102
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,920
and then stands up and starts mocking their sideline it's just it was it was lovely that's

1103
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,000
the kind of juice that I feel like we've been missing too is like the bills playing with

1104
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:23,040
this kind of jerk attitude um and so but I do think that was right that was on tackle

1105
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:28,520
rap play he absolutely demolished an entire side of the line to spring James Cook um or

1106
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,360
it might have been Latavius Murray I'm not sure who but it's you know that's the kind

1107
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,920
of thing that I think that bills could not only take advantage of hitting the middle

1108
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:44,080
of the field on some of those zone read plays um to digs concade maybe Shakir but also doing

1109
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,320
some things in the run game because I think that we know you know after seeing the the

1110
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:53,520
Brady led bills he's going to lean towards the the running attack and I think that it

1111
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,280
he was also not willing to abandon it even though they had some plays blown up I think

1112
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:04,000
that was really nice yeah no I I agree I think I think there's a lot of I think there's a

1113
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,400
lot of ways you can attack this Philly defense one of the things that we know about them

1114
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:12,560
and this really does feel like it's interesting because they we just said the chiefs have

1115
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,000
maybe the best defense they've had of the Mahomes era right now but previous iterations

1116
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:22,600
of that chiefs defense were not we're not good game to game but they could put up a

1117
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:27,800
great individual game when they needed to and I think this is a supremely talented defense

1118
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:33,520
on the outside and in the trenches but you've seen this defense have to be more multiple

1119
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,800
on the looks that they're giving opposing QBs and man that that Monday night game against

1120
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:42,400
Kansas City was a perfect example of it they ran a ton of odd fronts they were dropping

1121
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:47,980
eight guys into coverage at one point um bringing blitzes on others and you remember that Super

1122
01:09:47,980 --> 01:09:54,400
Bowl they played um last year against the chiefs where Vic Fangio was the the consultant

1123
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,720
for two weeks helping to build that defense that was going to shut down Pat Mahomes and

1124
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:03,280
you and I kept saying it throughout the course of that game if this Eagles defense doesn't

1125
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,600
play more man and they let Mahomes continue to eat underneath they're going to lose that

1126
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:12,600
game and sure enough that they did flash forward to this season some coaching changes happen

1127
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:17,440
some coaching changes happen on the defensive side of the ball you now have a unit that

1128
01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:22,760
is way more multiple than it was last year so while a lot of the advanced metrics are

1129
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:30,400
not yet behind the elite um are still placing behind the elite level that this team played

1130
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:35,680
at last year this is a unit with the talent to put together some really special games

1131
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:41,400
from week to week if they need to so I think it's going to be incumbent on the bills to

1132
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:47,040
exploit a lot of their strengths that we've mentioned already but also I mean do what

1133
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:52,520
Brady did against the Jets which is figure out where this defense is weak and vulnerable

1134
01:10:52,520 --> 01:11:04,760
and just how into that weakness and force force them to make an adjustment

1135
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:09,000
yeah I agree and I think that you know what we see is even with this amazing defensive

1136
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:15,440
front the the Eagles are still you know they have 31 sacks on the season which is you know

1137
01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:20,400
above middle of the pack so you'd expect them to have more though I don't know about you

1138
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:25,280
but I was just like with the defensive front they have I would always expect them to have

1139
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:31,520
you know be in the top five with bills Ravens chiefs commanders etc yeah oh I mean they

1140
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:39,120
they last year they were on that record setting pace last season for for sacks a lot of it

1141
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:44,400
and this is no this is no shade at what that unit did last year but a lot of that was coverage

1142
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:52,800
sacks like they were elite in the secondary they had not just slay and not just Bradbury

1143
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:58,480
but they had a great safety duo back there their middle linebacking core was absolutely

1144
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:03,880
insane and what happens when you have a QB on a rookie contract which is what we talked

1145
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,240
about when we previewed that Super Bowl game is that you can afford to pay a lot of these

1146
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:14,080
veterans elite money to come in and be mercenaries for one year and that's exactly what this defense

1147
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:20,360
was built on last season here we are this season and the unit is still good but definitely

1148
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:25,640
not to the success rate that it was last season because it's been so hollowed out in a lot

1149
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,720
of key positions they've done a great job scheming for it and again it's a unit that

1150
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:35,440
can be dangerous um game in and game out but it's also a unit that can be had in more ways

1151
01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:43,880
I think than last season I mean JJ overall EPA per play this defense is 18th in the league

1152
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,640
by comparison the Buffalo the injury depleted Buffalo Bills are still sitting at around

1153
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:52,680
12th in EPA per league now they're still posting a negative EPA which is what you want your

1154
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:59,920
defense to do but they are in the lower half of the defensive success rate for all NFL

1155
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:05,200
teams this season this is not the same defensive unit that they were rolling out last year

1156
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:09,680
yes they can be dangerous in some places yes they can be multiple but there are counters

1157
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:14,600
to this team that did not exist last year because unlike the New York Jets who we just

1158
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:20,360
talked about they don't have that same level of great individual talent so they're scheming

1159
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,400
to hide their weaknesses more and I think a smart play caller on the offensive side

1160
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,640
of the ball can really exploit it I don't think this team JJ because of the lack of

1161
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:33,560
speed in the middle of field would have an answer for the Josh Allen scripted run I don't

1162
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:38,240
so if you can break out Josh a little bit and some of the and some of those key situations

1163
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:43,320
if you can establish some crack toss outside zone games to slow down some of these edge

1164
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:48,480
rushers as well I think you got a really really good shot at beating this team effectively

1165
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:52,600
at its own game which is running the ball to set stuff up down the field because you

1166
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,680
know they're going to come out there regardless of how multiple they want to be they're still

1167
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:02,760
going to disguise coverage pre snap and more than likely play cover two high shell post

1168
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:07,920
snap to try to confuse Josh the run game and the crack toss game is great way to beat a

1169
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,280
lot of that.

1170
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:15,640
Absolutely and I think that you know we'll see some things we'll we'll what I'm most

1171
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:23,200
excited for is that this is an opportunity for Joe Brady to declare to the NFL what he's

1172
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:28,680
capable of versus a complete team right like the Jets everybody can put an asterisk on

1173
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,040
that win because it's like well you didn't have to worry about their offense you could

1174
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:37,040
just play your game and you knew that they were never going to like get you know get

1175
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:41,240
five touchdowns like you could just slow play do what you got to do and I think the bill

1176
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:46,440
still had a had a commanding all three phase victory I think that's excellent this is the

1177
01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:51,160
first of two real tests that Joe Brady is going to take and how the bill's offense looks

1178
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:55,000
is going to be a referendum on whether or not he should have a job at the end of the

1179
01:14:55,000 --> 01:15:00,440
season to continue as the offensive coordinator and so I think that that's an opportunity

1180
01:15:00,440 --> 01:15:04,800
and we'll have to see how it goes I think we've kind of laid out a blueprint for what

1181
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:09,880
we think the bills can do to attack this defense but again it's a multiple front they have

1182
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,760
to protect Josh Allen because I think that's what can derail this entire thing and Josh

1183
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:18,080
Allen has to protect the ball do you want to how do you feel about this game do you

1184
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,880
want to get in some predictions I do yeah I do and I want I want to start with score

1185
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:27,000
because we always start with score but I think unlike a lot of other games we've seen this

1186
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:33,400
season this one has a has the potential this to me is an early game of or not early but

1187
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:37,560
this is a game of the year candidate where I think you've got defenses with similar

1188
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:42,920
vulnerable vulnerabilities against some really high powered offensive offensive that has

1189
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:48,360
not hit their stride yet I think you could see some really special stuff happen so JJ

1190
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:53,920
I'm going because of hope against hope I am picking the bills to win this game I'm hoping

1191
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,520
there's a little bit of a let down after that Super Bowl matchup it's a little bit of a

1192
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:03,920
short week for Philly I get that it's home and home for them but all that being said

1193
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:13,640
I'm going to take the bills here 33 to 30 over the Philadelphia Eagles you and I just

1194
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,760
I love you in the mute button are just not battling I'm bad with it I'm bad with me yeah

1195
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:23,960
I should stop me myself because I started to respond to that I'm muted so you have 33

1196
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:29,720
to 30 bills right correct correct yeah that's why that's where I'm so I have the same exacts

1197
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:37,360
and except slightly I had 34 31 bills so oh nice exactly the same victory margin with

1198
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:42,320
a slightly you know one point scored by each team more so that's really interesting I like

1199
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:48,080
it I think it's going to be a cardiac contest to I think get your ADs your AD paddles ready

1200
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:52,720
because this is going to be you know one of those games that nobody feels comfortable

1201
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:58,120
in at any point in time and so I hope that we see you know wild crazy Stanley and Josh

1202
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:09,560
Allen having a blast I also hope that we see a you know the first clean game by Josh Allen

1203
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:15,600
since the dolphins game and so that's that's my dream right like that he comes out so one

1204
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:22,680
of my props again my score prediction bills win 34 31 in a cardiac contest Josh Allen

1205
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:27,640
point five turnovers I'm hitting the under what about you I am definitely taking the

1206
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:32,520
over I mean look at the look at the interception that he threw I know against the Jets it was

1207
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:38,200
it was Hail Mary and it was just a strategic interception right it was an arm punt I mean

1208
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:44,840
it was like he's going to throw those up and I'm fine with that type of interception I'm

1209
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:50,320
not fine with like the backbreakers on the first play of the game and I listen we just

1210
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:57,640
got to accept that it is built into guys like Josh and it's built into guys like Deck Prescott

1211
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:02,760
and it's built into guys like Patrick Mahomes who by the way is a great player but he's

1212
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:07,960
only two interceptions behind Josh Allen for the league lead I think the way defenses

1213
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:12,480
and this is going to be a larger conversation I think in the offseason the way defenses

1214
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:18,520
are playing a lot of these elite QB's makes them play perfect ball and there's not a single

1215
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:24,240
perfect QB out there so I think it's reasonable to expect some of these more elite guys are

1216
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:29,000
going to have more turnovers just don't make it the dumb backbreaking stuff that we have

1217
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:33,960
seen give me more arm punts and Hail Mary picks any day of the week but no I think Josh has

1218
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:38,840
that propensity like Mahomes like Prescott and I think he is going to throw in this game

1219
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:43,840
because it's a really talented cornerback duo that we've got going so yeah.

1220
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:49,400
But it's a cornerback duo that's talented however it is a team that is middle of the

1221
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:54,640
league and turnover takeaway margin they they're sixteenths like they're dead middle they're

1222
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,400
not really taking it away to greater click than they're they're turning it over and

1223
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:03,600
their differentials minus one so this is an offense that also gives it away and it defends

1224
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,720
the struggles to take it away yeah but he's still going to throw.

1225
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:15,280
All right fair fair and my my stat was over under point five turnover so like just interception

1226
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,960
could be a fumble like I still think he's under I think he plays a clean I'm hopeful

1227
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,920
I'm taking I'm taking over but I love the hope you have.

1228
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:28,080
Hope you see in the in the hope you pipe here.

1229
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:36,840
I am going to go I'm gonna ride the hot hand with Khalil Shakir Khalil Shakir large longest

1230
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:44,680
reception over under 19 and a half yards. So we'll Shakir have a at least a 120 yard reception in this game.

1231
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:52,960
And I'm going to take the over. I think yes. For the reasons that you mentioned, I think it's a weak nickel.

1232
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:59,680
It's a weak nickel cornerback room for this, this Philadelphia defense. And I think Shakir is going to

1233
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,960
going to make some hay in between the hashes on the seam.

1234
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:08,840
Okay, I'm actually taking the over too, because I actually think that that's an easy over for me because I think that

1235
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:15,800
would take that bet almost every time that he gets more than five catches, not because the air yards is going to be 19 or

1236
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:23,240
five or greater, but because he can turn a seven or a yard reception into a 25 yard game. He tends to have a really good sense

1237
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:30,360
of where bodies are around him and how to get to space. And so as you saw in the touchdown, I mean, you know, Dalton can

1238
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:37,960
Cade's doot block aside. That was, you know, an excellent kind of field view and feel of where where he needed to get

1239
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:44,280
to to find open space. I like that one I'm smashing the over to, I've got, you know, staying on the wide receiver thing.

1240
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:50,360
I think that this is a game where digs gets back on the scoreboard because I do think that they have outside corners,

1241
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:58,040
but they don't have super elite outside corners. And so I think that their their strength is that everybody on that defense in the secondary

1242
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:04,920
except for nickel corner and except for inside linebacker is above average, including the replacements who are playing at safety.

1243
01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:12,760
I think everyone's above average starter in NFL, but I don't think that they're like shut down lockdown players. And so I see digs getting a

1244
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,040
tutty. How about you?

1245
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:23,240
Yeah, I could go with that. I'm going to take the over as well. I agree. This is a great coverage duo that is not necessarily shut down.

1246
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:30,280
They can be had in certain areas. And I think if the Office of Line can do its job and give Josh a little bit of time or if Josh can

1247
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:40,280
buy some time with his legs, I mean, him and digs are just lethal in the improvisational passing game. And I could really see technicians

1248
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:47,320
like Slay and Bradbury really succumb to a lot of that improbability that those two have. So yeah, I'm going to I'm going to take the over.

1249
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:57,320
And listen, I think from a team chemistry standpoint, digs, I think is an underrated emotional leader on that unit. But you also don't want to

1250
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:07,320
keep him out of the game plan multiple weeks in a row. You're going to need him down the stretch when it counts. You're going to want to continue to get him some quality reps and not just run him out there as a decoy.

1251
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:15,320
So yeah, I'm going to take the over as well. I got one more. I got one more if you're you're into it. I'm into it.

1252
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:26,320
Jaylen Hertz over under half a turnover. So he has actually done a really good job since that Jets game of taking care of the ball, that Jets game where he threw three

1253
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:41,320
interceptions. He has only thrown turn the ball over once since that that Jets game. That being said, though, he is a QB who likes to take shots like to take chances. And we have seen this Buffalo Bills defense in recent weeks

1254
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:52,320
against the Broncos or against the Broncos and against the Jets turnover and opposing offense. So over under half a turnover for Jaylen Hertz.

1255
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,320
Sounds like you're going over.

1256
01:22:54,320 --> 01:23:07,320
Are you going over? I'm going. I'm going. I want to know what you want to do because I actually have not decided I wrote this. You're going to bet off of me. Yeah, I wrote this prop down and then I didn't write a response and because I'm like, Yeah, I don't know.

1257
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:20,320
They'd be stupid to throw Douglas, you know. Yeah. So I'm actually I'm actually going over. I think he gets a turnover, but I don't think it's coming the way that you think it is. I've actually seen the the thing that he that I saw in the

1258
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:32,320
chiefs game that I saw as a vulnerability of Jaylen Hertz game is he does not take care of the ball when he's running around in the backfield. And I think that this the defensive players, especially the edge rushers, specifically

1259
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:43,320
Shackloss and AJAPN as in Leonard Floyd, they all have a natural sense to swat at the ball if they're not going to get there for the set. So I think there's a chance that they get one on the ground that way.

1260
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:49,320
And so I'm going to take the over. I don't think he throws in their reception, but I think he does have he loses the fumble.

1261
01:23:49,320 --> 01:24:06,320
I'm going to take the over to I just I just think there is I think there is I did I did I literally just decided I think there is pent up frustration for both of these these QBs who are elite, who have been shackled and reigned in by a lot of the

1262
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:24,320
defensive the defenses they have seen. I think both of these defenses are going to provide some real temptation for these QBs to lean into some of their most problematic, but exciting tendencies. And I think, listen, man, I could easily see a two turn over game from both

1263
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:30,320
Hertz and Allen in this right. So I mean, I think they're going to want to sling it. So yeah, I'm going to take the over to

1264
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:39,320
I mean, then I have I have one last one. Just again, this is my just me hope prop. Greg Rousseau half sack over under.

1265
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:47,320
He's I know he's heard but he's been playing so damn well. It depends. It really does depend.

1266
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:54,320
And to your point before this is a chance for mcd to play some different fronts and Greg Rousseau rushing from the inside is pretty lethal.

1267
01:24:54,320 --> 01:25:04,320
He is and he would provide some real problems for what we've established as an elite interior offensive line. I'm still going to take I'm still going to take the under though.

1268
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:21,320
Rousseau Miller they don't seem right even though Rousseau is playing with a lot more pop right now. This this doesn't feel like this feels like this feels like a weird in a weird way and AJ up and as like domination game for some reason I don't know why I love it.

1269
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:26,320
I like these are just these are just the games that AJ up and as it tends to come in and dominate.

1270
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:38,320
Let's see it. I want to see it. That's that's exciting for me. I think that for me. I know that the the season sort of hangs in the balance with this one as it does every game for the rest of the season.

1271
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:44,320
But I think that you know the monkey off the back of the Joe Brady game against the Jets the win against the Jets.

1272
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:55,320
I think most of Bill's Mafia is going to this game way less you know apprehensive than we have for a number of weeks and I don't know about you but I'm feeling kind of loose and ready to see them play this this elite challenging team.

1273
01:25:55,320 --> 01:26:12,320
Yeah me too. I think the offense is going to have a good week not just because of the things that Brady is seems committed to doing but because again I agree with you I think this team realizes that that they have hit rock bottom and there is a little bit more playing with house money at this point.

1274
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:20,320
And I think we saw earlier on in the season so the expectations have definitely shifted and I think this is a lighter team as a result of it.

1275
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:29,320
So yeah, JJ as we sit here and pod pre Thanksgiving I want to wish you and yours a very happy Thanksgiving here.

1276
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:36,320
It's been great to pod with you up until this point and I am thankful for you tolerating all of my prediction sure to go wrong.

1277
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:40,320
I don't know anyone else in this world that would be able to put up with it.

1278
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:56,320
It's a hurt killing effort but I do my best and to you and yours as well and to everybody listening you know I hope you're fat and happy tomorrow on Thanksgiving day and you know it's going to be a good time this weekend I'm hoping we're all going to have a nice turkey day.

1279
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:03,320
We're going to watch the Dolphins lose on Friday and then we're going to go into our weekend and be ready for a go bills moment.

1280
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:18,320
I'm hoping so I'm hoping so so for all of you listening at home like share and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts Google Spotify feel free to drop us a review for us to a friend and as always go bills gobble gobble go bills.

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1282
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