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Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread Podcast.

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JJ here, as always, with Dan and Bill's Mafia.

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I have to say one thing and one thing only.

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Y'all are losing your collective goddamn minds out there.

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I have been battling both sides of arguments for or against Ken Dorsey on this team online

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with people out there.

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And we're staying somewhat respectful.

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I mean, most posts and in Go bills, but it's getting kind of dicey.

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I think everyone's really upset.

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The Buffalo bills dropped another game to fall to five and four.

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And it's the worst start that the Buffalo bills have had under Sean McDermott since

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Josh Allen's rookie season.

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And that's where we are in week 10.

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This is the Thursday before a Monday night show with the Denver Broncos, the ascending

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Denver Broncos.

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Dan, where are you in this in the situation today?

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I feel like I'm stuck in a hamster wheel and I'm not going anywhere.

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I I told you before we started the pod, I don't know that I want to talk numbers when

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it comes to the the bangles, the bangles recap.

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The reason being is because this was a loss that went beyond numbers.

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The bills had so much invested in this game, whether they want to admit it or not, they

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literally geared their entire offseason to correcting the wrong that was done to them

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in Highmark Stadium by these bangles.

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And it looked like they were just as far apart after last week's game and defeat as they

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were after the playoff defeat.

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After all of the signings, after all of the commitment in the offseason to trying to keep

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things simple and being more committed than ever than football after all of that stuff,

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this team was exactly as bad as they were in that playoff loss last year.

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Now I said something that I know I know you disagree with and I want to walk it back a

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little bit because I put it in the text chain, which God, if anyone ever saw our text chain

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and then what we put out on the pod, you folks at home, you're getting the calm version of

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me and JJ.

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This is the filtered.

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Right.

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This is the.

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Yeah.

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This is the ties like I've had a few days to process the text chain is like raw emotion.

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It's rough, mash vodka for stage, not distilled.

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It really is.

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So I'll throw something in the chain and you'll be like, I disagree with that.

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That sucks.

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Right.

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And then we get and then we get back on the pot.

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It's like, yeah, man, listen, you bring up good points like it's all good.

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Yeah.

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I'm like, frankly, sir, you're an idiot and a moron.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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And then the mics come on and we're in we're into the recording mode and we're like, hey,

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man, listen, I feel where you're at.

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I depart.

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I depart.

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So what I put to you in the text was this you could make an argument that this loss

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was as embarrassing to some extent as the playoff loss and you disagreed and and we

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can dig into that.

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But here is my case overall for why this loss was more than just a week nine midseason

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typical Buffalo Bills swoon as they find themselves as they seem to do every year at this time.

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They win a big game a few weeks in be at the Chiefs or the Dolphins.

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And then it's like they have their own personal regular season Super Bowl hangover for the

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next five weeks.

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I get it.

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This is the cadence that we're used to with the Buffalo Bills.

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And what do they ultimately do?

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They ultimately figure it out.

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It doesn't always look pretty, but this is a team that always goes on a run.

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And I am telling you the reason why this particular game was you could argue as embarrassing or

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at least as devastating as the playoff loss was is because of two things.

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One, it to me represents a failure of what the Buffalo Bills have been building, trying

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to build up all offseason.

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Two, when you look at where the bills are in the conference and they are currently out

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of the playoff picture completely, and when you look at what this win does by way of tiebreakers

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and point differentials in an AFC, not just the AFC East, I don't think the division

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right now is in reach.

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But in the AFC fighting for a wild card spot, what this loss does in tiebreaker scenarios

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when you're carrying losses against Cincinnati and Jacksonville, not to mention the Jets who

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are still lingering around for a wild card spot also currently hold a tiebreaker over

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you as well in the division and in the conference.

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This loss is going to make it even harder for the Buffalo Bills to get to where they

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want to get.

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You can make an argument that 10 wins after this loss because of tiebreaker scenarios and

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point differentials and records and conference might not even get them the seven seed.

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That's why to me this loss is devastating because it could ultimately factor into the

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math that ends the run that the Buffalo Bills have been so fortunate to be on since McDermott

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and Bean came on board and since we drafted Josh Allen.

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It represents I think for the first time a true lack of progress because JJ after the

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bill after 13 seconds after the AFC championship game, the bills have always come back with

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some sort of counter punch.

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They've always come back in the next season, better thing that they couldn't do the year

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before.

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This Cincinnati game was supposed to be that crowning moment where all the stuff that lost

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them that game last season against Cincinnati was corrected and it wasn't.

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And what's worse is that that might be the thing mathematically that keeps the bills

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even with 10 wins in a competitive AFC out of the playoff picture.

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That's my argument.

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We're going to get into Dorsey and we're going to get into all that.

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But that is how I feel about this loss.

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This loss feels in a lot of ways like the first time this team does not have a recipe

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for progress.

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You know, you know, and I think, I think that's fair.

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And I think that, um, yeah, and I believe too, there's a lot that goes into this, right?

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Like, and that's the thing that I've been really spinning out on from the time that

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that game ended on Sunday night to today is that it's, it's almost impossible for me to

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settle on who I think or what I think is the biggest problem with this team, right?

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Like I, I have, I was texting you in the text chain, like, okay, I think I'm in fire

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Dorsey camp, right?

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Like, I think I've found my way there because it just seemed like such a slog for them to

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get anything done.

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And then I like go to sleep and I wake up and I'm like, Josh Allen, though he's got

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a better completion percentage and a better QBQ BR at this point in this season that he's

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ever had in his career at this point in this season is not doing it.

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He's just not doing it.

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He's not playing within the scope of the offense.

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And at there are times where I'm like putting the blame solely on Josh Allen because you

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can say, well, Dorsey's not scheming the right place for him.

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But you could also say, no, Dorsey has a good plan because if you watch all 22, you can

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see all of the easy button check down pros that are meant to beat cover two shell.

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The ones that Patrick Malone's had to learn how to take and effectively took to the point

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of two Super Bowls in the last four years, right?

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Like there are solutions and Josh Allen is either stubbornly not choosing to take those

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those options or the offensive line is failing.

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There's other things there that it's just like, okay, and you just I can just spin and

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spin all day because I'm like, well, the players aren't getting it done in the scheme, change

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the scheme.

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Then then once I'm like, the scheme looks good, the players aren't getting it done, the players

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need to play better, right?

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And then ultimately, I'm coming back and I'm like, I'm not in the Bill's mafia group

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that's like McDermott has hit his ceiling and he cannot coach a winner of a Super Bowl.

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It's time for him to go.

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I'm not there.

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I don't think that it's a good idea to get rid of winning coaches who tend to get their

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players up to perform at an elite level year over year.

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I don't think that McDermott's a Marvin Lewis, right?

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Like a first first round of the playoffs exit every year or a Marty shot, Marty shot.

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Yeah, there's a lot of shot and higher comparison.

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But I don't think he is that because he has been part of a culture, part of a team that

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made it all the way to the Super Bowl and absolutely got stopped, right?

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So it's it's a it's a kind of thing where it's like, I wouldn't want to say that just

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because he's been there and got destroyed, that it's all on him, you know, I'd like,

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I think that he has what it takes to get the bills back there.

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But so much of it is like in the moment, they have to play their best on that day.

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And that I mean, again, I'm spinning because I'm like, OK, the coach is the coach's job

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to motivate his players to bring it day after day.

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But then on the other hand, I'm like, well, he's not on the field.

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They need to actually be professionals and do their job.

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And I think that it's just oh my god, I'm a mess.

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I'm a mess, Bill's mafia.

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No, I hear you.

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It's like a chicken or the egg conversation, right?

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And listen, Josh has always been a volatile product at QB.

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Even in his best seasons, he would make throws.

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He would put together play sequences that you're like, what is this dude doing?

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Even when everyone finally during that COVID season came on board with, holy crap, like

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we have we have our franchise QB.

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There was still these head scratching moments where you're like, he needs to mature more.

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I we obviously should not get rid of Josh Allen because he may be the reason why it

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is so frustrating to watch the bills at points, but he's also a big reason why they win.

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I am also not like you not ready to get rid of McDermott because I think that's a I just

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think that's a that's a rash move at this point.

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I am also not necessarily ready to get get rid of Dorsey.

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And I think you and I will also depart respectfully on this as well.

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And it's for the reason that you said.

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There are guys open that Josh could be checking to.

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And it's not like it's it's not like it's always a dink and dunk.

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I mean, there was a there was a when you look at the it was a Lana a Lana Getsenberg from

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ESPN put up the the motion dots on that play NFL next gen.

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The NFL next gen, right?

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Like so Gabe Davis is route where Cam Taylor Britt picked off Josh Allen.

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You had James Cook wide open with tons of yardage in front of him at the check down.

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But you also had Kincaid hitting a perfectly timed release at the second level of it.

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We need it levels.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Josh is not checking his levels when he should be.

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And this is the thing that I think does represent this this accountability piece on the coaching

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staff that they need to somehow impart on Josh.

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And I'm going to and this cuts two ways because there's something I think the coaching staff

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is not doing for Josh that I think also feeds into a lot of anger here.

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Josh needs to be led to that point of maturation where he is taking the free yards like Tom

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Brady said Tom Brady absolutely berated Josh on his podcast for not taking free yards because

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here's what free yards early in the game get you.

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It gets you.

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Stefan digs in single coverage.

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It gets you outside.

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On the outside exactly.

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It gets you single high safety coverage because there's not a linebacker in the league that's

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going to keep up with Dalton Kincaid.

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And if you feed him enough and he does pain to the opposing team you're going to get a

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safety to drop down and cover him which is going to put you in single high.

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You're going to get the bracketed coverage off these clear out routes for Gabe Davis

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off but you've got to be patient at the beginning of the game to get what you want.

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Right.

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So that's the accountability piece on the coaching side that needs to improve and that's

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the maturation of Josh that needs to improve.

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That's part one of this.

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But part two and this is on the coaching staff is they can't just build it to be take the

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free yards all the time.

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And this is my frustration with Dorsey.

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We've said it before no one can explain Dorsey scheme who is in like a regular NFL coach

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couch.

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You're probably the closest thing because of your understanding of film and study of

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the game.

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The frustration with Dorsey as we have said before is play sequencing because it is always

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always taking the most efficient route without ever building to the explosiveness that this

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team can reach.

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He basically keeps the car in third gear never wanting to get to fourth gear.

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This is an exceptionally efficient offense by every advanced metric.

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And this is probably why a lot of bills mafia are like all these numbers are for nerds because

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the eye test tells me and you know what the eye test is right about this too.

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JJ this offense reminds me a lot of the first iteration of Kevin Stafansky's offense with

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the Cleveland Browns.

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The Baker Mayfield led Cleveland Browns his first season in Cleveland after the debacle

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that was Freddie Kitchens comes in installs this new offense and it's a plotting offense.

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It's efficient.

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It's high in a lot of efficiency metrics but it's not explosive.

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And as a result of that the Cleveland Browns led a lot of drives that were 13 or 14 plays

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took eight minutes to chunk off the clock but would ultimately end in a field goal because

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they didn't have the ability to leverage all of that efficiency for explosiveness.

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And this is where the bills are at.

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They are fine at running an efficient offense.

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But if you're going to be playing behind which you are more often than not with this beat

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up is this defenses moving forward you also have to be explosive because you cannot come

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from behind two scores down when you're running 13 play drives for nine minutes at a time

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dinking and dunking down the field and then ending up with a punt or a turnover or a field

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goal.

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And this is where I think there is blame to lay at doors at Ken Dorsey's doorstep because

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he has built a very efficient offense where guys are open but he is not leveraging that

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efficiency when Josh does choose to engage with it when he does engage with feeding can

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cave the ball or he does get it to Shakir and he ends the target funnel to digs.

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When Josh chooses to do those things there is no reward for Josh there is no carrot

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at the end of that stick.

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It's just more here's another four yard out to James Cook and that is where Dorsey does

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deserve some blame.

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This offense needs to build to something other than a really efficient non explosive unit

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if it's going to be competitive and when that's the piece that I think Dorsey continues to

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miss as a play caller and that's where I think Josh should be rightfully frustrated because

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when he plays by the rules and plays within the scheme there is no reward.

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The closest thing we saw was that touchdown pass to digs because finally at the end of

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the game we had gotten it to concave enough we had gotten it to Shakir enough and finally

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the Bengals are like you know what they're killing us in the middle of the field they

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brought down extra help we get digs on the outside and we get a touchdown but there is

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not enough of that happening in this offense.

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Well there's also the other problem I have is with the creativity I think that it's

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the kind of thing where the scheme is appropriate the actual route combinations are very good

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Dorsey clearly understands what Josh likes and is planning the 2x2 that they set up in

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when they're in 11 personnel you know two receivers on either side Dalton and Cain

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is on one of the sides in the slot.

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Yeah that 2x2 set that they used endlessly against Cleveland it has mirrored route concepts

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often times and then it has other route concepts and option routes that come off of those mirrors

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that it's that's smart play calling because it's basically it's saying my guys are better

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than your guys one of these four people is going to get separation and that's going to

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be the obvious answer and it's going to be an answer in less than three seconds for Josh

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Shantlin and that those designs are good he does a good job of those the problem is he

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has no counter punch to that being you know repeatedly shut down and so when the very

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simplistic scheme that he rolls out there is effectively stopped by extraordinary coverage

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or scheming I think that that's the thing that Lou Anna Rumo did is he said okay I understand

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that when we get a 2x2 set you know four wide what we're going to see is probably these

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six different combinations of routes we're going to just gamble and put our guys into

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zones that cover the that make those those gaps very small for Josh Shantlin to fit the

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ball in and hope that we get lucky and they did they got lucky repeatedly that somebody

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was there for a pass breakup that the ball was overthrown under thrown you know there

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was an issue with making completions and the problem was that once that happened Dorsey

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for seven drives in the game didn't have a different way to go he should be able to

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say okay you're going to do that you're going to rush three we're going to have a draw plate

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James Cook in which James Cook is moving to the mesh point and running past Josh Allen

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and past your three rushers for five or six yards because that's I trust James Cook to

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get that and they they abandoned the run too fast I think there was like 75% pass plays

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against the Bengals they abandoned the run because they're getting beat up a little bit

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in the middle DJ Reader and BJ Hill were doing work and made them too gun shy to run the

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ball but I think run the ball was the answer because that was the that was the counterpunch

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they just needed to establish a run and yet there's nothing that builds on anything the

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best analogy I can give is that when most of the better defensive coordinators in the

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league are playing chess Ken Dorsey is playing checkers but all of his put all of his pieces

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on the board are Kings and he never moves his back row right like he's King me everyone's

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double stacked checkers and that seems powerful but it's not powerful when the other teams

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are beating you to the points and having pieces that can move ways you can't move

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that was the most elaborate checkers analogy I think I've ever heard in my life.

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Okay, they're all King pieces.

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Yes, he never moves his back row.

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Yep.

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No, I follow you.

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I definitely follow you on that is a as an avid checkers player myself having chess being

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above my intelligence level.

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But um, but it dude it you bring up something so interesting with the run game.

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And this is where you again, I'm not in the fire Dorsey I'm not in the fire McDermott

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camp but this is where again you can lay blame at the feet of now the head coach for how

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he is trying to influence the philosophy of the offensive coordinator.

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We saw this tension with McDermott and Dabel where for years after a bill's loss McDermott

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standard line was we need more balance we need more balance complimentary football complimentary

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football right we need to be able to run the ball more and the only time McDermott seems

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happy after a bill's win is when they run the ball with 20 times with James Cook.

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I will tell you and I agree with you running the ball is a good counter especially in the

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the schematic situation you're talking about was Cincinnati.

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But I think the piece that has gone underdeveloped in this offense more than maybe even Dalton

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Kincaid has been James Cook.

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And I think because Cook is caught unintentionally in this philosophical battle between how Dorsey

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wants to use him and how McDermott wants to use him and I actually think how McDermott

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how Dorsey wants to use Cook is the way they should go.

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Cook want like McDermott wants Cook to be this traditional power running back and you

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can see McDermott's fingerprints all over it when Cook is not in the starting personnel

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package in the game and Latavius Maria's that's McDermott being the tough edge jawed defensive

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coach who's saying like I'm three yards in a cloud of dust right we're gonna out physical

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you except this offensive line has never been built to be physical.

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They are finesse pass blockers they are finesse pass blockers top to bottom.

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All the way right all the way the blueprint that we need to establish for James Cook is

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kind of like the blueprint that they've established for Travis Etn in Jacksonville.

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Travis Etn leads the league in running back touches.

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This is a speed back coming out of Clemson with an injury history and they're using

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this dude as a workhorse.

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He is only averaging 3.9 yards per carry on his traditional rush attempts over 151 rush

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attempts this season which is also tops in the league but they use him to keep that team

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on schedule in the passing game as well.

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First down Etn gets you four yards second down because they have a bad offensive line

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in Jacksonville and it's not enough time for Zay Jones and Kelvin Ridley to get open downfield.

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We're gonna check it down five yards all of a sudden to Etn plays were third in one and

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we're right on schedule.

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That has to be how you use James Cook is that offensive chest piece and I do think McDermott

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deserves blame for his interference in developing the offensive philosophy because the offense

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that he wants the offensive line to do something they can't do and he gets frustrated with

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James Cook because he's not the running back he wants him to be.

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But if you stop trying to pigeonhole these guys into the physical philosophical scheme

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you want and take them at their skill level you'll look at the model the Jacksonville

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is built around its running back.

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You could replicate that with great success with James Cook and he could be a piece that

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helps you stay on schedule and is this dynamic counter punch to whatever these other teams

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want to roll out defensively.

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But he has been underdeveloped in his second year because he doesn't fit a traditional

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mold right that JJ that is the order of the blame pie of this game that I would put it

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in.

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I would put a lot of blame at the feet of Josh Allen for simply not maturing right

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at certain points in the game is still making great choices.

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I also put blame in the feet of Ken Dorsey because he is not incentivizing Josh with

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this scheme at all it builds to nothing.

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And I put blame at the feet of McDermott because he is clearly interfering with the philosophy

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that his offensive coordinator wants to build and he is somehow blind to the talent he has

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in front of him.

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If he were just to let it go and allow Dorsey to utilize the personnel in a way that he

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sees fit and let go of some of these traditional football tropes about out physical and and

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three yards in a cloud of dust like I said before he would let it go.

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You would have this really dynamic piece in James Cook you could you could open up which

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would then create openings for Dorsey to build in and scaffold in more that were incentivized

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Josh to play within the scheme until it was time to hit those explosive plays.

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It is all a domino effect that goes from coaching to the players.

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Is it fireable?

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No, but it's got to be fixable because right now you're out of the playoff picture and

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mathematically it's going to be very hard for you to get broken.

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And it's funny because like maybe I'm just maybe I'm just massively I'm an empath right

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I'm super empathetic just that's the way I roll.

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I love where yours has spaces I could all right.

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Yeah, I love it.

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No, but get this though.

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I can see if I am in Sean McDermott's McDermott's feet, I'm in his shoes and I'm you know they

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like to say you know stand in this moment like be present right.

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If I'm present in Sean McDermott's shoes what I what I am feeling right now is that

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I am playing my defense is playing with eight, no seven of my 11 starters preferred starters.

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I'm playing with seven of my 11 preferred starters and four of my players are playing

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with some kind of some kind of injury that's hampering Greg Rousseau's foot has been jacked

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up probably a micro fracture for four weeks.

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Yeah, he's just not himself.

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Yeah.

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I think that Oliver has been playing through some injury both Poyer and Hyde because they're

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old have some things going on but have been gotten it together to play.

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So there is like there's a lot going on there.

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And you know, I can see from his perspective.

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Ken I need you to slow things down.

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I know that the fast pace offense is is like really the only thing that's clicking for

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us right now.

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But my my defense is gassed and this game is going to be 48 to nothing.

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If you just keep putting us back out there after four or five second drives right like

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and that's the that's the problem we saw is like there was a couple of drives where the

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bills ended up taking 16 seconds off the clock and only going negative five yards right

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like that that puts your defense in massive massive problems and they're already understaffed.

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So I kind of get that I kind of get where he's like, listen, we need to come up with

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something better.

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And I don't think it's unreasonable for him to ask that of his offensive coordinator.

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Every team should be able to play both tempo and pace like and the fact that the bills

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can't.

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I think there's a lot of things there.

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One thing I think one of the reasons I don't think they've been able to establish the running

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game is yes, they're not a line full of mallers like the Cowboys or the Eagles.

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But a piece of that is the fact that they still have not committed to a style of running.

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They still try to be multiple like table.

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If they just went to power gap and if it's Latavius Mary awesome or went to tosses with

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the great blocking that they get from Davis, Scherfield and even at this point.

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Oh my God.

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Who's our number 10?

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Shaq Shaq here.

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Yeah.

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Shaq here's come on as this awesome like blocking wide receiver even as a diminutive guy.

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You'll get no argument from me that we should be running the crack toss at museum.

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Right.

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Right.

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This is what I'm saying.

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So like if you had if you if you changed up your running playbook so it was more crack

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toss with with cook and then you know, even some inside gap power Latavius Murray, maybe

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Leonard Fournet comes up and just do what you're really good at and do it better than

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anyone in the league.

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That's the way to go.

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Instead of trying to switch things up and have zone and sprint draw and all of these like

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different concepts.

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It's not a time to be cute.

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It's a time to like refine what you do.

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And that's what we saw in Tampa Bay.

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The Tampa Bay game, the bills were, you know, they probably should have put their foot on

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the gas a little bit in those drives that were ending at the 40 for Tampa Bay.

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They probably would have converted one or two of those fourth thousands if they really

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wanted to.

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And they were too conservative there.

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But you know what they did was they said, OK, this is the thing we do best.

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We're going to do the hell out of it.

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And that worked for most of that game.

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And so absolutely.

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I'm all for like, you know, I get it that you need to give your defensive break and

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the defense is under manned from, you know, the first four weeks of the season, the defense

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was fourth best in the league via DVOA since their 30th.

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Like they are getting healed.

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And I believe it.

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Like I know that that's the reason that Sean McDermott has more of an influence on his

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offense.

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But also I don't necessarily blame him that.

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I think that he he shouldn't get involved in the X's and O's of how they run the football.

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But I don't think it's unreasonable for him as head coach to say, hey, the defense need

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needs to get like their gas right now.

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They need to break.

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Give us some time.

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Yeah, I listen, I agree.

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And I think that's a great observation.

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I think it's fine to make the request.

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I think where it crosses the line is dictating how that request should play out.

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I do.

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I do.

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And again, you are telegraphing as Sean McDermott, what you want to do every time you start

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Latavius Murray over your dynamic second round tail and James Cook, you're sending an message

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intentional or unintentional to the rest of the guys on that squad and to your offensive

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coordinator that the identity that they're carrying with them as a team is not good enough.

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And at some point, that's going to wear guys down to constantly hear that the thing that

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we are good at is not the thing I want.

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And because you're not good in the way I want you to be good, I'm going to ask you to continually

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do it a different way.

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That's going to wear guys down, right?

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So like it's some point it is fair for McDermott to make the ask.

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Then he's got to delegate and trust that the players in the in the coat in the offensive

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coaching staff are going to execute that.

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And I think I think this is probably some of Day Ball's frustration with McDermott and

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the way things ended there is that McDermott was not not trusting enough to let them figure

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it out.

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And I think Dorsey is dealing with some of that right now, too.

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Again, it is broken, but not fireable.

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It can be fixed, right?

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It can be fixed.

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And the path to fixing it is very clear, but it's about a real it's about some really

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00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:35,200
smart important guys, a generational talent QB, a smart and savvy offensive coordinator

452
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,040
and a successful head coach with a great mind for the game and a track record.

453
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,280
Someone has to give something up in that ego game if this is going to be fixed.

454
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,800
Absolutely.

455
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:51,600
And I think that, you know, I think that that's that's that's where we're at is like, I read

456
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:57,520
online that Latavius Murray and some other players led a players only meeting, tried

457
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,720
to like re, you know, reestablish or refocus the team and get these guys motivated for

458
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,720
the Monday night game.

459
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,720
And that's good.

460
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,000
I think that that stuff will pull out all the stops at this point and do all the things.

461
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,360
Go find a darkness retreat and ask, you know, Aaron Rogers to lead it for you.

462
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,760
Do some shit because fake and ACL tear and come back.

463
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,880
Come back four weeks later, like miraculously, do some fancy stuff.

464
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,360
Go take an improv class, do a paint and sip with some wine.

465
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:28,920
I don't know what you have to do as an offense, but get this stuff together because, you

466
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,360
know, they really need to.

467
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,560
I think there's a couple of different things.

468
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,680
I think there's some player leadership could definitely rejuvenate this team.

469
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,800
And I looked at Josh Allen.

470
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:42,600
I think that for some reason he he had the taunting penalty early in the game, the first

471
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,120
touchdown against the Bengals and he looked like he was Josh Allen of old having fun playing

472
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,120
football.

473
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,800
They threw that flag on him and he deflated like he didn't look the same the rest of

474
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,440
the game until the very end.

475
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,440
I don't get that.

476
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,440
I love that.

477
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,440
Tom can fly again.

478
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,960
Give me one of those every game.

479
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,960
Oh, really good.

480
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,040
It was saucy and I appreciated it.

481
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,120
And like I also don't I'm not against the NFL for throwing that flag.

482
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,000
I think that, you know, you need a high profile player who's like literally being unsportsman

483
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,120
like you need, you need to throw the flag.

484
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,400
But I just, you know, he just looked like he completely lost his juice.

485
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,080
And there's so many games in the past five weeks that have looked that way where he just

486
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,000
doesn't seem it seems like he just gives up on, you know, whatever it is.

487
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,480
He doesn't seem to have that kind of enthusiasm or emotion or heart of the, you know, other

488
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,440
than the play of the field, like he's still kind of balling out.

489
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,040
He's still the like stallion we believe him to be.

490
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,800
But you know, it's it's sort of forced.

491
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:44,680
It feels like he's his heart's not in it as much and one of my friends, you know, who

492
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,640
who's on our, my other bills chat said, you know, and he's a, he's been a hockey coach

493
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,480
for a very, very long time.

494
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,600
Said I've coached enough men to know what it looks like when somebody's not motivating

495
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,760
the team, somebody's not pulling the triggers or hitting the levers and flipping the switches

496
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,520
that they need to.

497
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,400
And that's what this team looks like the way that they play the way that they perform.

498
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,160
They're talented and their talent is carrying them right now, but they're not.

499
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,840
They don't seem to be prepared or fired up for things.

500
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,000
And that's, that's something I really worry about.

501
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Yeah.

502
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,000
No.

503
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,000
And we've seen it week in and week out.

504
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,000
What have we said?

505
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,680
This team plays down to their competition, a team that is locked in and is drilled down

506
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,640
in the week leading up to a game.

507
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,000
They want to destroy you no matter what your record is.

508
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,880
And the bills, the bills have just, they have not been that for the past two and a half seasons.

509
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,680
They just haven't, you know, there's a little bit of front runner in this team.

510
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,520
Like the Miami Dolphins have that too.

511
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,000
We remember those videos two years ago of Josh and digs dancing at practice.

512
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,000
Everything is great.

513
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,960
We're eight and three on our way to another divisional title.

514
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,520
And that's just been gone for the past 18 months.

515
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,240
Now, this is a team we have to be cognizant of has been through a lot emotionally.

516
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,040
There's been a lot in that community.

517
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,680
We've run through it all with the Bagoolas and Hamlin and the Snowstorm.

518
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,680
Shooting.

519
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,680
The Wegmanshoot.

520
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:07,040
Like this is, it's a, it's a, it is a team and a community that has been through it.

521
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,480
This is really busy singing in my head just like we do on the track.

522
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,080
This is the something of the understanding that the leader people really need to believe

523
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,500
is for them to understand their position of the leadership directly beyondounty of the

524
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:24,800
group or even moreover, to tell their brushfulness to make sure that you're not facing a gap

525
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,380
and allowing you to trust it.

526
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,360
So, in the past, Um, you know, they have 받고 fills are plans for

527
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,840
a group to debut and believe in not wanting to quit, but to win.

528
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:43,120
roster we have said is so old, it could just be that a lot of these guys, either because

529
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,600
they've been with McDermott so long and they've seen the results kind of level out, or because

530
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,120
they're like these vet minimum dudes that have been on nine different teams at this point.

531
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,300
One coach saying this is the same as another coach. A lot of these players could be blocking

532
00:33:56,300 --> 00:34:01,200
out McDermott at this point. They're you could need another voice in the locker room. And

533
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,160
I think this is where player leadership comes into play, like you mentioned. So yeah, I

534
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,240
do want to say anything else about this game because I'm I'm a I'm a I'm emotionally spent

535
00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:17,080
and I'm ready to talk about the Broncos, which is a a must win. Yes, absolutely. A more competitive

536
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,160
game than anyone thinks it's gonna be. Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, I'll I'll say one more

537
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:27,160
thing and just a note on some of the like, so you have to mention and this kind of bleeds

538
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:34,000
into the game against the Broncos, but you have to mention the Buffalo Bills injuries.

539
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,840
You know, it's amazing they held the Bengals to three points in the second half. Incredible

540
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,880
was a ball outside effort. Yeah, they were missing Christian Benford. They were missing

541
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:48,960
Terrell Bernard. Leonard Floyd has been playing hurt and sick, they were missing like a hide

542
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:56,200
in the second half. They, you know, it's just been the constant problems. The defense just

543
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:03,880
every single week seems like they're losing somebody. And so coming into the Broncos game,

544
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,920
we have a Thursday injury report, Christian Benford didn't practice Leonard Floyd didn't

545
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:14,120
practice like a hide didn't practice Jordan Poyer didn't practice. Some good news is AJ

546
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:19,520
Klein, bail inspector and Terrell Bernard all were limited participants. So hopefully

547
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,360
they trend to continue trend in the right direction so that the linebacking court isn't

548
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,960
just completely devoid of anybody in reserve, but it's it's a lot to worry about. But I

549
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:35,240
will say kind of one more note on the Bengals game. Linval Joseph, my friend, other than

550
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:40,240
a lot of bomb. Yeah, I was going to say other than the very the very clear, you know, and

551
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:45,280
present power crotch grab power bomb that he did of Joe Burrow, which you know, I think

552
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:51,040
who was mentioned it, maybe it was scarecrow on Buffalo rumbling. So somebody mentioned

553
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:56,040
that that Linval Joseph probably relish that because as soon as Joe Burrow established

554
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:01,280
himself as a runner, he's no longer protected as a quarterback. So picking him up putting

555
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:07,160
him on the turf and landing your whole body on him, totally appropriate. And he did all

556
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,200
of those things. So I don't know, I was like, I was kind of pleasantly surprised with a

557
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:17,160
street free agent off of his couch coming in and playing zero technique nose and one

558
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:24,680
technique center shade, which allowed at Oliver to play defensive end like this was kind of

559
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,600
this is one of those things where some of the things they showed in the second half

560
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:33,560
that stymied a lot of the offensive success of the Bengals were looks that for good reason

561
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,360
that the Bengals had never seen. And that's one of those things where like, I'm like,

562
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:42,000
don't don't fire Shaw McDermott like he might metal an offense too much, he might, but he's

563
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,080
proven this this year alone, that even though the defense is reeling, even though they have

564
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:52,640
been giving up points and yards, they're so depleted. And he's still coming up with ways

565
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,960
to get the best out of a out of a bunch of guys who some of them are not tier one starters,

566
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:03,160
they just are not even back quality like Tyrell Dodson is a third stringer Tyrell Dodson's

567
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,160
a third stringer who had probably his best game after the first two drives. After those

568
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:13,040
first two Bengals drives Tyrell Dodson locked in and did had a much better game. Dean Jackson

569
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,000
probably the best game of his career. But he that was the best defensive effort of anyone

570
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,760
on that team. And like we would throw all the flowers we want at his feet because like

571
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,480
we have roasted Dean Jackson and Ben like we don't think this guy should be back next

572
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,200
year. But he absolutely played out of his mind played out of his mind, right? And that's

573
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,760
the thing is like if all of those guys can put put that level of effort together, this

574
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:41,680
defense is still a top 15 unit in the league, even with not missing multiple all pros like

575
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:47,400
right. And that's I think that you can point to coaching and scheme. And so I thought the

576
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,720
defense did enough. I think they need to get some turnovers. They haven't had a single

577
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:56,240
interception turn over production. The turnover production and the same thing happened last

578
00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:00,400
year. Once these injuries settled in with this team last year, the turnover production

579
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:06,800
absolutely went away. And they had they had no they had no escape hatch turnover producing

580
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,920
ability to get out of problematic drives. So it it hurt the team last year. It looks

581
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,080
like it's turning at this year. But again, that's why that's why the result Douglas trade

582
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,400
is so important because he is a guy that comes in with great ball skills. You just got to

583
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,440
get him up to speed. Hopefully we'll hopefully we'll see some some more of him in this Denver

584
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,400
game. We might not have a choice given the injuries on the squad. But hopefully we see

585
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:34,440
more than this Denver game on Monday night. Yeah, and yeah, God, oh, and I'll just say

586
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,200
I was about to hit a perfect transition, but you're going to keep talking about no, I'm

587
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,280
just gonna I'm just gonna answer for the the pod. We have to be accountable, Dan. We have

588
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:47,840
to be accountable if you can segue up of accountable do that but to be accountable to our our terrible

589
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,520
correctness with the Buffalo Buffalo loss, we both predicted the Buffalo Bills would

590
00:38:52,520 --> 00:39:00,280
lose you by three points, me by three points. And we're both six. Yeah. And we're both in

591
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,320
the kind of range. You even you even perfectly predicted that the Bengals dominate the first

592
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:13,880
half. You also had Kim gate over 5.5 receptions that was on. We also thought we both thought

593
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,200
von Miller we get a sack he absolutely did not want to he's just not right. He's not

594
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:23,120
he's not right. No, he's not right. He actually this is like it seems criminal to say but

595
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,800
I think that every snap you're going to give on Miller you should give to AJ Epinezza.

596
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:32,760
Oh, at this point in the season, I want to I want to play back some pods from the last

597
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:39,880
year of you roasting up and I will always say it's possible for people to get better.

598
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:47,240
He's better. He's done much better. So yeah, we did poorly. And one bright no I'll say

599
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:53,560
is Dalton concaid has already surpassed the Buffalo Bills receptions record for a rookie

600
00:39:53,560 --> 00:40:01,520
tight end with 40. Congratulations. Previous was Tony Hunter in 1983 with 36. And Dalton

601
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:12,200
concaid with 63 more 64 more yards will set the will pass Mr. Hunter for for yards in

602
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:18,960
a season. Actually, he needs. Okay, he's quite a bit more than that. He's 144. But 144 more

603
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,640
yards and he's got it. Listen, he and he might get am I okay to do an awesome transition

604
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,040
off of that or no are you still going for it? He might get that against the Denver Broncos

605
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,320
unit with a weak linebacking core that really struggles to guard opposing tight ends, which

606
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:39,480
JJ is a perfect segue to talk about Monday night. Bam, we need a sound effect on this

607
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:45,200
pod. And a perfect transition. I'll just be bucks. And that's that's what I'm talking

608
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:51,600
about. You can do something Ken Dorsey cannot, which is pivot off of your initial plan into

609
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,360
a better plan. So yes, to something greater, build to something greater. So this Monday

610
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,920
night against these Denver Broncos could be an opportunity for Dalton concaid to further

611
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,600
pad his his receiving yards for the season and get closer to those 160 or so he needs

612
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,400
to set the rookie record.

613
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,880
Sounds awesome. Sounds awesome. And and we should start JJ. I mean, there's a there is

614
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,920
a lot to break down in this game. And it's not just about the numbers, which I love getting

615
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,720
into. But this is a game with real stakes at this point in the season for the bills.

616
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:26,880
This is another AFC opponent. This is an AFC opponent who just knocked off the rival their

617
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:32,200
rival Kansas City Chiefs before heading into a buy. This is a team that probably doesn't

618
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:39,520
think it is out of the playoff race. Another loss to another AFC, another AFC unit doesn't

619
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:44,600
just bury you at five and five behind the likes of the Houston Texans. But it also puts

620
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,320
you at real risk for being eliminated from the playoffs potentially before you get your

621
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,400
buy week, which is not an exaggeration, given the the murderers row that this bill schedule

622
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:59,280
turns into in quick order here. So let's talk about the Denver Broncos game. First and foremost,

623
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:06,200
JJ, it's a home game, which I think will hopefully provide a boon to our boys because the bills,

624
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,720
correct me if I'm wrong, one in four on the road for an O at home, correct? No, absolutely

625
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:17,920
right. undefeated at home for no. Yep. And a lot and offensive production better at home,

626
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:24,280
everything better home, everything, everything better at home. They can run the style of

627
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,960
offense they want to run for the most part. They just feel more comfortable in the trappings

628
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:34,160
of of Orchard Park. But you are getting a Denver Broncos team that came off a an impressive

629
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:40,280
defensive effort against an albeit sick but still playing Patrick Mahomes two weeks ago.

630
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,400
They get a long period of time off to game plan for these reeling Buffalo Bills. JJ,

631
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,320
there's a couple of things I think the Broncos can do offensively and defensively that are

632
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,440
going to give us Buffalo Bills teams fits. So where do you want to start? You want to

633
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,560
start Bill's offense Broncos defense or vice versa? I want to start Bill's defense versus

634
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,800
Broncos offense because I think the juicier question is really going to be Buffalo's offense.

635
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:10,440
So let's start with the more kind of the mundanity of Russell Wilson. Yeah, absolutely. And you

636
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:16,000
know, it's interesting because Wilson statistically is having a good year 16 total TDs no rushing

637
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:24,720
TDs. I was about to say McDermott. Sean Payton has really reigned in the let Russ cook mentality

638
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:28,680
and Wilson is having one of his better statistical seasons that he's had at this point in his

639
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:34,800
career. I believe six total touchdowns to only four interceptions and one formal lost.

640
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:42,720
So a three to one TD to turnover turnover margin. But it's come in it's come in spurts

641
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:47,720
and streaks. It has not been consistent. Only recently has Wilson really started to kind

642
00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:52,520
of turn it on and he has not been the reason why Denver has been losing that defense is.

643
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,960
But even that defense has gotten healthier in a lot of places getting some of its safety

644
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,040
is back. So it kind of starts with Wilson. But when you look at what Peyton wants to

645
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:07,600
do, he really wants to run the ball. Like this isn't a great past protecting offensive

646
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:12,800
line in Denver. This is a offensive line JJ that's really made to run the ball. You've

647
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:21,360
got Mike McGlinchey, the free agent signing from 49ers, I think he has been brutal and

648
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:26,800
past protection. He has been bottom quarter in the league for all that free agent money

649
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,560
and past protection at right tackle. But his run blocking grades are really good. You've

650
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,440
got Quinn Meinertz. You've got Lloyd Cushenberry, Ben Powers, who I think is a free agent guard

651
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,760
that you and I coveted a little bit coming from the Baltimore Ravens. And then you've

652
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:45,080
got Garrett Bowles, who I mean, been there for what seven years. He's the guy who broke

653
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,560
down in the locker room after a after a particularly painful loss for the steam. The season is

654
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,760
like all I've ever known is losing here. But this is a this is an offensive line that's

655
00:44:54,760 --> 00:45:01,640
also given up sex at a rate that is top 10 in the league as far as sex percentage goes.

656
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:10,560
So what what Peyton tries to do is establish the run and he's got a dude, he's got a quirky

657
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:16,160
like bag of tools in that running back room with Javante Williams and Jaleel McLaughlin,

658
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:23,120
who's a kid that has a lot of pop. The Buffalo Bills defense Joe Wills McLaughlin Joe Wills.

659
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,360
That's great. Oh my God. That's not mine. That's been been soul. I think. Oh, is that

660
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,320
so like so so like is always on point. So like if you ever listen to the pod first, thank

661
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,560
you. And second, trademark some of your stuff, man, because you're freaking genius. You're

662
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:43,440
genius. But I mean, they've got some running backs that are problematic. They've got exactly

663
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,200
the type of talent on the inside and outside on the offensive line that's going to give

664
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,760
a beat up Buffalo Bills defensive unit fits. And listen, McDermott is not going to play

665
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:57,320
base. He's just not going to play base, which might actually help in a game like this. So

666
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,620
it's going to be our typical nickel set. Maybe some of that dime look with Jordan

667
00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:07,760
Poyer playing linebacker. But this is a very beefy offensive line that is very likely to

668
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,240
how physical this defensive line. And I think JJ that's where it starts. It starts with

669
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:16,320
what I think is going to happen is the Denver Broncos are going to have a really good, a

670
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:21,320
really good game. If they establish the run against a Bills defense that even went healthy

671
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,400
was middling in EPA and rush yards allowed. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that's the biggest

672
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:32,120
problem is that if this, you know, the done Denver Broncos are second best in the league

673
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,560
in yards per rush. They're kind of middle of the pack and in the percentage of times

674
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:43,440
they rush. So they tend to have a pretty balanced offense. And they are 11th best in the league

675
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,720
in rush yards per game. You know, so, but it's funny because they're worst in the league

676
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:54,360
in rush TVs per game. So they tend to be rushing pretty well kind of between the 20s, but then

677
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,200
they're not as successful in red zone scoring. Yeah, yeah, they're big. These are speed guys

678
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,880
when it's when everybody's loading up the box. It's it's really much harder for them.

679
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,320
So but they're but that's the thing that people need to realize is this Denver offense is

680
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,400
not bad. Most of their, you know, they're pretty good. Yeah, they're above above the

681
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,920
fold and rushing there a little bit below the fold and passing. But as it is the NFL

682
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,320
goes and offense is down production wise this year, with the exception of, you know, the

683
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,760
dolphins for some reason. And they they tend to be a little bit better than the league

684
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,880
average. So you're, you know, if you're expecting this to be a kind of 28 to three, rubbing,

685
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,720
I think you're going to be sorely mistaken. It's probably going to be quite a bit closer.

686
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:41,040
Russell Wilson looks a lot more comfortable. He's got some tools on the outside in Cortland,

687
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:46,880
Sutton and Jerry Judy. And for some reason, he's not hitting Judy on long, long and late

688
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:52,160
downs like you should, because he's been open. It's interesting that that's not been a connection

689
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,800
he's really made. But Cortland Sutton certainly coming through for that offense in certain

690
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:02,760
points. I absolutely I'm hopeful and excited that the Buffalo Bills can sack Russell Wilson

691
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,320
because he tends to hold on the ball too long. He's got one of the slowest triggers in the

692
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,880
league. And it's been a couple of weeks since the bills have seen a quarterback who's not

693
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in the top 10 in terms of release time. So I'm really hopeful that translates into some

694
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,920
some sack production, maybe some turnover production, because he also tends to fumble

695
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,160
it that's been his problem his whole career. So there's a couple of different things. I

696
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,600
agree with you that I think that if if Denver can establish the run and if Denver Denver

697
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can be balanced on offense, it's going to be a long close game for the Buffalo Bills.

698
00:48:35,420 --> 00:48:41,280
If the bills are able to get out to a lead early on and make them one dimensional, their

699
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:46,720
passing offense is not quite there. And their pass protection is not very good. So that's

700
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:51,400
where I think that that's the goal. Like if I had to summarize what needs to happen in

701
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:56,320
this game, it's that the Buffalo Bills need to, you know, force Denver to feel like they

702
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:01,160
have to throw the ball. And then that's that's a recipe for winning.

703
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:06,080
JJ, what is this defensive line going to look like? So we've mentioned that Rousseau is

704
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,880
is pretty beat up. Yep. And I've seen a lot of bills mafia Twitter roasting Rousseau for

705
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:16,360
the breakout season that hasn't been so far. But Rousseau is obviously hurt. He's obviously

706
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:22,480
hurt. You've got Von Miller, who looks like he's playing in mud at this point. You've

707
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,280
got Ed Oliver, who has been your best defensive lineman, I think bar none throughout the course

708
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:33,080
of the season, other than to Juan Jones, maybe who is no longer playing due to injury. But

709
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:39,480
even he's really dinged up right now. Your healthiest edge player is probably AJ Epineza.

710
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:45,000
And you've got him buried behind Leonard Floyd, who has been a revelation this season for

711
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:51,760
the Bills, but is also dinged up as well. The Bills are a team that like to limit the

712
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:57,280
snaps of their defensive line. Yeah. But where where does this rotation go against

713
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:03,520
a pretty meaty, pretty beefy Denver Broncos offensive line that I just think Sean Payton

714
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,360
is going to use like a cudgel and try to wear these guys down. Where do they go?

715
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I think you can expect to see Greg Russo play. It's interesting, but like, I'll just put

716
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this out there as a bet. I bet you see Greg Russo and Linvalt Joseph lined up inside with

717
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:26,840
Von Miller and Ed Oliver playing outside for some snaps. Because Ed Oliver is definitely

718
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:33,440
not a long, rangy speed rusher. But he's one of the healthier players that they have.

719
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And he has better pass rush moves than most of the other interior guys. So I can see a

720
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:43,120
situation where you see some of that with Linvalt Joseph, the Bills ended up playing

721
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:48,520
three, four, and they used Von Miller as an outside linebacker. And they had him lined

722
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:54,120
up with Tyrell Dodson and Dorian Williams for some snaps and Terran Johnson even kind

723
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,680
of like playing sort of a linebacker role in a three, four. So you could see some of

724
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that because that actually gives you an advantage against the way that the Denver Broncos like

725
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to run. They like to run zone scheme, which we know from years of Peyton in with the Saints.

726
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,760
We also know that that's one of the teams that when Son Peyton was there, absolutely

727
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:25,080
destroyed the Bills running the wall. So, you know, color me concernicus for this defense

728
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:30,720
against that offense, especially with the speediness of those running backs.

729
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:36,240
And that's the thing that that's the thing I think we're missing the most. Even with

730
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:41,400
the age of this defense, when all preferred 11 starters were in, there was real speed

731
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:50,120
on the field with Milano with a healthy Rousseau, Leonard Bernard Leonard Floyd with that pop

732
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:55,120
kair Elam for the one game he was allowed to play. Like there was real speed and athleticism

733
00:51:55,120 --> 00:52:00,200
in this bill's defense, not something we expected for the age of the unit. But now the injuries

734
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,360
have broken it down. You play a team that's got a great speed element at running back

735
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,840
in the Denver Broncos. And you just wonder where are the answers? And you may have hit

736
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,960
on something with this three, four alignment because you know, you can't trust Dorian Williams

737
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,960
yet to be your full time coverage linebacker because he still bites on some really basic

738
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:25,520
stuff, which he's at that stage in his development. But I also don't think you can afford to keep

739
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:32,320
his raw speed and athleticism and play recognition ability and the run stopping game off the

740
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,280
field for too many drives either.

741
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,760
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think that this is a game where like you may need to actually

742
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:44,240
lean on Dorian Williams a little bit, because he has something that that almost nobody else

743
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:49,560
in the defensive backfield has. And that's like pretty elite speed. And coupled with

744
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:55,200
the physicality and hitting to like really meet something in the in the hole, especially

745
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,040
if Bernard's not in. If Bernard's not in, you cannot trust Terrell Dodson to get to his

746
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,960
spots and fill even though he had a good second half, he had a good decent game for the most

747
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:10,840
part against the the Bengals. This Denver rushing attack is a little bit more dangerous

748
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:11,840
than the Bengals.

749
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:16,600
Yeah, no, totally agree. And they're and it's the way they've been built. They've been

750
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,480
built for this to or in Cincinnati, they're built for Joe Burrow here. They're Payton

751
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:26,360
has really built something for the run game here. And it's a run game that's been ascended,

752
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:32,280
I think over the past few weeks as well. So yeah, to me, it's all about stopping the run,

753
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:37,280
but getting unique and maybe getting out of your nickel comfort zone if you're Sean McDermott

754
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:46,920
to find a way to get more of your guys that can that allow you that athletic advantage

755
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:52,760
in some of these matchup scenarios. It's going to be really interesting. I am also very concerned

756
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:58,080
with matching up with the speed elements that we have against Jerry Judy. Lesson Judy,

757
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:03,520
I think only has one touchdown so far this season, I want to say. Cortland Sutton only

758
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:10,400
has 380 yards, but he has six TDs. But these are guys that have established a rapport with

759
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,680
Russell Wilson and absent a real receiving tight end because the Broncos don't have one.

760
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:20,560
You've got these two guys that are really tough matchups, one who is big and physical,

761
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,640
the other who is kind of like lighter and faster. It's an interesting dynamic. The bills

762
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:30,600
are going to meet need to meet on the outside. If Micah Hyde is hurt, we and we know that

763
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,800
Poyer has been battling injury, but he brings a ton of value in that timeline backer spot

764
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:40,560
as well that McDermott has started to run. What is the answer because I feel like the

765
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:47,240
roof on this defense is vulnerable. And then with Benford out potentially, you're looking

766
00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:52,560
at Dane Jackson, who we know what Dane is, despite his great gaming and Cincinnati and

767
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,440
Rizul Douglas, who we're excited for, but is less than two weeks into the playbook at

768
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,800
this point as you're starting outside. Less than two weeks into the playbook and has

769
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:06,160
never been an elite treats. Cornerback has always been a production quarterback like

770
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,280
that. There's a thing to be said for a production quarterback and I would even say the tray

771
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:16,000
white is a production quarterback that's a quarterback who has excellent feel for zone

772
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:22,320
has excellent like hand fighting and like technique in man coverage is sticky and able

773
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,800
to stay at the you know catch point and be competitive there good ball skills. Like

774
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:32,720
that's what he has he is not going to be in your pocket the whole way like Kyrie Lamp

775
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:39,720
can be on his best snaps, because he's an athletic freak. So I am yeah, I'm very concerned

776
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:44,960
about that. I actually think that this is this is a game that is decided you know you

777
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:50,160
kind of alluded to this before this is a game that's decided on the trenches. The offensive

778
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:58,360
pass rush care the defensive pass rush cannot you know, interrupt the ability of Russell

779
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:03,680
Wilson to sit and hold, then this game is not going to go well because they're not going

780
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:08,880
to be hold up holding up on the second level. No, not at all against the speed and separation

781
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,120
ability of these these talented wide receivers.

782
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:16,640
Yeah, I agree. I think there's a lot of real problems on the boundaries in this game.

783
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:22,520
That McDermott or not keep saying McDermott man, Peyton also likes to attack the middle

784
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:28,440
of the field in the short passing game which Wilson is done with some success overall.

785
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,720
But I think the real vulnerabilities here on the outside it's on the boundaries for sure

786
00:56:31,720 --> 00:56:38,040
in this game and over the top especially if Poir and Hyder both out right. Both are both

787
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:47,920
hurt. Yeah, listen, it is possible we're rolling into this game with nine nine over 11 preferred

788
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:53,920
starters injured injured at this point. And that actually was the story of everyone looks

789
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:59,400
at the dolphins game against the Broncos and says well there's no way the bills could lose

790
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,120
to a team that dolphins put 70 up on the bill.

791
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:08,280
That game was such an outlier. Well, they had three starters three of 11 starters on

792
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:13,400
defense were playing in that game. They didn't have Justin Simmons that game which listen

793
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:19,080
I don't think Simmons is like a correct a corrective point of like minus 30 on the

794
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:23,560
script. But like Simmons makes a difference in that game and he wasn't healthy for that

795
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:28,240
game. Like the Broncos have battled a ton of injuries going all the way back to last season

796
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,760
on defense. It's like people don't pay attention to the stuff. Yes, the dolphins had a really

797
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,240
good game against the second defensive unit for the Denver Broncos.

798
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:41,560
Right. Yeah, they had a good game against backups and and backups who were probably

799
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:46,360
being beaten by 107 degree temperatures and direct sunlight.

800
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:52,120
The whole hey, the bills have been there. The bills have been there. But I so JJ, I think

801
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,240
you and I both think the matchup is going to be relatively problematic here for the

802
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:02,040
bills defensively against this this Russell Wilson let attack. So that means the offense

803
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:08,360
is going to have to be on its a game. They'll have to turn up the temperature.

804
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:14,800
I have transitions to it's so trophy. I love it. I love it. Oh my god. So JJ, how exactly

805
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,600
are the Buffalo bills going to turn up the temperature to get this offense cooking?

806
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,480
Nice. Well, I think that probably one of the biggest things that I could say that will

807
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,840
work for them is that, you know, this Denver Broncos team is pretty poor against their run.

808
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,280
And part of that was the, you know, the massive, you know, rushing game that the dolphins put

809
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:37,280
up against them. But also part of it is like just watching their film and like they tend

810
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:42,040
to struggle a little bit and get out of position with some of the gaps that they need to fill.

811
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And so this defense has changed pretty substantially.

812
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:52,200
You know, since who was in a remote there, but or no, who was last year that went to

813
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:57,960
the dolphins? Fangio. Yeah. I don't think but I don't think Fangio was with them last

814
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:03,520
year. Two years. Anyway, it was a two years. Yeah, because last last year was the Nathaniel

815
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:09,040
Hackett disaster. Yeah. Yeah. Fangio was consulting for the Eagles last year, I think. Yeah.

816
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:14,200
So they have a new defensive coordinator. And it seems like some of the scheme pit things

817
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:21,800
have not been as good. This defense against the bill's offense has been extremely opportunistic.

818
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,520
They've gotten turnovers in every one of their last few games. And so multiple turnovers,

819
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,200
I think they turn over the chiefs five times. And so this is that's what the bills need

820
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,480
to work, work out is how to keep the ball safe, make sure the Josh doesn't make these

821
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:40,360
mistakes. And they're going to have opportunities to run the ball a little bit. But I also think

822
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:46,040
that maybe the secret and trick of this game is going to be using the short passing game

823
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:51,760
as the running game because the defense for the Broncos has some vulnerabilities and

824
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,480
coverage at the second level, getting cook and concave involved in the middle of the

825
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:01,680
field in that three to five yard range with run after catch. I think that's going to

826
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:06,840
be open. I think that's going to be available because I think the Broncos like many teams

827
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:12,240
this season are going to try to erase digs from the game. And they've got they've got

828
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:17,120
the horses to do it and Pat Sertan and Justin Simmons bracketing over the top. So they're

829
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:22,080
they're probably going to try to erase digs and Josh Allen has to be patient and has to

830
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:26,400
try to work those underneath routes just like you said to soften the coverage later in the

831
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:31,320
game. And one of the other good ways is, you know, staying ahead of the sticks, getting

832
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:36,760
the run game going, doing some like screen and some counter and, you know, some of that

833
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:43,000
gap, gap power stuff with Deon Dawkins pulling through the hole. I think that'll be effective

834
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,760
against this team because the Denver Broncos detentive front is a base three four. So they

835
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:53,400
play with a nose tackle, which means that your guards are uncovered and have better angles

836
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:58,160
on the ends and the nose, which correct. And then they try to fill those gaps with linebackers.

837
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,800
And that's actually a place where I think they have a little bit of vulnerability. Nick

838
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:08,360
Benino, Alex Singleton and Josie Jewel are their linebackers. They've been playing Drew

839
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:14,000
Sanders a little bit too out of he was the he's a rook, right? Yep. Yeah. Nick Benino,

840
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:19,840
I think the Oklahoma edge rusher, he has he has been absolutely wild when I go back and

841
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:25,960
I look at Broncos footage because this is a dude who just blindly rushes the passer.

842
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:30,800
And if I were the Buffalo Bills, I would run the ball right. Oh, yeah. This kid or run

843
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:36,360
right at the right right to where exactly where his responsibilities the screen. Yeah.

844
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:43,240
He is like drunk, Yannick and Gakway, where he is just like over pursuing on every play,

845
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:48,400
right? But that's the thing. A player like this can actually be a little bit of a of

846
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,960
a troublemaker. If you fall into some of that predictability and putting Josh in shotgun

847
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,360
and he holds on to the ball for three and a half seconds, right? So I would neutralize

848
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,640
this kid and make him think twice right off the bat screen game right at him, run game

849
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:07,440
right at him. I would go right after this kid with James Cook with Latavius Murray and

850
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:12,120
any facet of the game that you want to because Justin Simmons, who is healthy and is playing

851
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:18,240
well, is likely going to have some role in helping to bracket helping pass or tan bracket

852
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:24,000
stuff on digs. The scarier thought is if it's fans, Joseph, who I think is the defensive

853
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:29,200
coordinator for the Broncos is if Joseph thinks that Sir Tan can stick with digs one

854
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:35,080
on one, well, then you can float Simmons to go wherever you want to go to go to go to

855
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:40,600
Kinkade. Exactly. Right. Exactly. And that might be what Joseph is thinking. So listen,

856
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:46,760
it is going to be incumbent on this offense to be patient and efficient in the beginning

857
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:52,120
of the game to get the looks that it wants later on in the game for sure without a doubt.

858
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:56,480
The question becomes is what what does that efficiency look like? It's not going to be

859
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:01,800
12 personnel. Is it going to be 11 personnel? Are we going to see any more of Josh action

860
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:08,280
at Josh? Josh Allen ever under center play action again, because that almost disappeared

861
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:13,280
against Tampa Bay and Cincinnati as well, where it was so effective earlier in the year.

862
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:17,200
And this is the thing, JJ, I think I'm going to be looking for schematically from this Buffalo

863
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:22,880
Bills offense. Have they figured out the stuff that works for them? Have they figured out

864
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:27,480
that having Gabe Davis run some of these in cutting routes and maybe flashing Shakir to

865
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:33,280
the outside where he is always on time with his releases? Right. Have they figured any

866
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,320
of those things out? Yes, tempo is going to be important and they're going to be able

867
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:42,320
to play with more tempo at home. But to your point, can they also dictate pace of play

868
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:47,280
to the Denver Broncos defense when they need to as well? It's going to be really interesting

869
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,640
for me to see because it was just a bunch of the 11 personnel that they've been running.

870
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:57,360
No play action, no meaningful RPOs. James Cook out of shotgun running that stupid mesh

871
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:02,880
point draw. I just freaking hate that thing. Like if we see some of that, then we'll know

872
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:07,640
early on that the Buffalo Bills coaching staff has learned nothing from the previous nine

873
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:13,440
weeks. Well, and I think too, it's like the benefit. So there's two different schools

874
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:19,520
of thought with playing ups up tempo. A lot of bills mafia that are older of the older

875
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,200
fan variety are talking about, well, we need the J gun, right? Like we need them to run

876
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:28,720
the K gun offense again. Oh, yeah, that was that was me. Yeah, elder millennial bills

877
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:33,200
fan elder millennial bills fan has a son has a Jim Kelly jersey and says that they need

878
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:38,160
to run a Josh Allen K gun offense. Well, here's the challenge with that. The league is so

879
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,720
much different. The coverages are so much more complex. And that offense was basically

880
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:47,760
just about gassing the defense, because after three or four plays, the defensive linemen

881
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,960
were just leaning on them because they weren't substituted out and they didn't have any any

882
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,360
pass rush gas left in them. So it just made it easier. And then on top of that, they're

883
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:59,080
only running four different plays out of four different formations, you know, making a total

884
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:06,720
of 16 looks. And this it's it does not work that way for this team. And so it also you

885
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:11,480
run the risk of like three plays, two yards, and you've took 16 seconds off the off the

886
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,240
clock and you're destroyed battered defenses back out there, which we talked about in the

887
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:24,640
first half. So I'm, I think that the better match would be up tempo, but not a fast offense,

888
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,680
if you know what I mean, it's the kind of thing where Josh Allen's calling some things

889
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:32,340
from the huddle, in like a muddle huddle, getting to the line with 20 or 30 seconds

890
01:05:32,340 --> 01:05:37,720
on the play clock, and getting a chance to read and using some creative motion to give

891
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:43,240
him some answers before the snap. Because I think that too often, they're either getting

892
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:47,840
to the line at the last moment, because they're trying to slow things down. And then he doesn't

893
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:52,760
have a motion option. And he's just got to answer the question as soon as he snaps the

894
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,720
ball, he's, you know, especially when they've been playing on the road, he's behind like

895
01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:00,400
they've taken timeouts and three games on the road this season, because they were too

896
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,800
close to, you know, getting a delay of game penalty. Yep, they can't have that that operation.

897
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,880
And thankfully, they don't when they're at home. And I think that's been a big difference.

898
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:12,400
That's been kind of unnoticed by a lot of fans is that that's a big deal when you can

899
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,000
operate your offense by getting to the getting to the line running some motion, getting a

900
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,560
look at what the defense response to the motion, having a sense of maybe what the zone or verse

901
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:25,520
man reads are. That's going to give him a minute, you know, half second, like a quarter of a

902
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:30,200
second option, right after the snap to know where he wants to go with that ball. So I

903
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,320
think they need to come up with some answers like that. And I don't mind an uptempo offense.

904
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:39,960
I think it's the most important part is giving him more time at the line to check and recheck,

905
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:44,920
roll some things, change some things. Exactly. Because an uptempo offense that goes three

906
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,600
and out is only taken like 30 seconds off the clock. And when you have a defense that

907
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:53,400
is this vulnerable, again, going back to your point in the in the Bengals recap, when you

908
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,520
have a defense that is this vulnerable as the Buffalo Bills one is, you're going to

909
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,400
want to keep them off the field for as much as you can. But that also doesn't mean that

910
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:06,680
you adopt this plotting, get to the line at the last minute, Josh pretending like he's

911
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:12,200
Peyton Manning trying to read the defense, right? Like, listen, Josh is a pre snap processor

912
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:19,280
has come a long way. But the more that Dorsey can take off of his plate with pre snap processing

913
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:24,760
to your point, I think is really important. Listen, I think Josh is a smart football player.

914
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:30,240
But Jot when this offense is at its worst is when Josh is stuck at the line of scrimmage

915
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:36,200
for 12 or 15 seconds, calling out checks, calling out whatever and being indecisive pre

916
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:40,760
snap, not being able to figure out what the defense is throwing at him. Josh is a grip

917
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:46,640
it and rip it Brett Farr of he's just do do it. Yeah, exactly. So just let him do it.

918
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:51,120
Improvisational. That's exactly. So just let him do it. Let him do it. Don't try to make

919
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:55,760
him Peyton Manning. If you're Ken Dorsey, they keep saying this, we're trying to simplify

920
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:01,160
the offense. That doesn't mean you need to dumb it down. But give Josh less to do at

921
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:05,440
the line of scrimmage. That's why I think that's the big thing with me with tempo is

922
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:10,400
that it's not necessarily that they're going no huddle in the gimmick that that is. It's

923
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:16,000
that playing with that pace. There is urgency for Josh not to get mired at the line of scrimmage

924
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:21,040
pre snap, calling out all these contradictory checks. He gets up, he's forced to make a

925
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,760
quick read goes with it rips it. And that's why it works.

926
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,720
Well, and that's that's it too, is I think that it's, I think he gets in trouble more

927
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:33,800
often as a quarterback when he's thinking like when he thinks that when you just get

928
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:39,080
him up there and you're like, just just just react, just like, right, get the read, set

929
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:45,160
that thing on fire and shoot it off. And I think that too is a problem. And it's weird

930
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:50,200
because it's like, I don't know how it's why it's fighting against itself. But Ken Dorsey

931
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:55,800
is calling a lot of half field reads for Josh Allen for exactly that reason. But I don't

932
01:08:55,800 --> 01:09:01,480
think it's the right way to manage it, right? And that's not the right, right? Like, correct.

933
01:09:01,480 --> 01:09:06,440
He's trying to simplify it by is like, okay, I need I need grip it and rip it, Josh. So

934
01:09:06,440 --> 01:09:11,720
Josh, don't look across all the progressions or any all the routes. Just just look to digs,

935
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:16,680
look to look to the slot to concave if neither of their run it or check it down. Like, that's

936
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:22,440
not the answer. The answer is like, all right, Josh, here's your full menu of roots. Right.

937
01:09:22,440 --> 01:09:26,400
Snap the ball and do whatever you want, like play play, play back at that's what it's

938
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,640
got to be. Right. That's what it's got to be. And when he's at the line, he's like,

939
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,880
I've got these four route trees that I don't going, which one looks pretty great. Five seconds,

940
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:38,520
snap the ball and then rip it. That's what it needs to be. And again, I think that's where

941
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:43,880
even when you're looking at the film, it's easy to blame Josh for missing open guys. But is he

942
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:48,760
is he being allowed to look at that area of the field, right? And that's part of my spin out,

943
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,120
like the spin out I went through in the first half of the pot is exactly that is like, I don't know

944
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:57,240
which parts of it are Josh, which parts of it are Dermot, which parts of it are Dorsey. It's not

945
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:03,480
working right now. That's the part that's clear. Yeah. And listen, this is that a lot of modern

946
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:09,480
NFL offenses, progressions are are in fact performative. And I would put Cincinnati in

947
01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:15,880
this bucket as well. Offensive coordinators are scheming up easy. And when I say easy button,

948
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:20,680
like point and click, I don't mean that it's easy to run these offenses. It's not. But they're

949
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:28,440
scheming up lots of open receivers that they know based on coverage dynamics are likely going to be

950
01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:34,920
open. So they're only giving a lot of their QB is one or two reads to is not going in to any

951
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,800
pre snap huddle knowing he's going to have four or five route trees to accommodate. He's thinking

952
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,760
Hill's going to be here. Waddle's going to be here. I'm going to throw it to one of those two

953
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:49,320
guys based on a half a second glimpse I get after I hike the ball. The I mean, you could argue that

954
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:53,400
the Jacksonville Jaguars do the same thing with Trevor Lawrence. There's not a lot of teams

955
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:59,960
where QBs are doing legitimate post snap progressions. Josh and the quality of this offensive

956
01:10:59,960 --> 01:11:06,760
line have the ability to do that. You can give Josh three or even four reads in any given play.

957
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,680
And as long as he knows that they are available and he's allowed to do it,

958
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:15,800
you've got to trust him to make the right decision. When you try to contain Josh and limit

959
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:20,520
Josh's view on the field, that's where we see him forcing the ball a lot like he did to Davis and

960
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:26,680
that's Cincinnati game. You've got to remove that pressure from him. Simplify by get it's

961
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:33,160
ironic simplify by giving him less to exact. Well, it's not complicating. Give him less to do pre snap

962
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,360
and give him more to do post snap when he's in the moment because when he's reacting is when

963
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:42,760
he's at his best. Right. Yeah, when he doesn't have time to second guess the reader do some

964
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:47,400
different things as when he does his best. And also, God damn it, Spencer Brown and Osiris

965
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,640
Torrance give him time like they've been the past three or four weeks they've been sliding backwards.

966
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:58,600
Watch film on what a stunt is right like their communication and their anchors have been really

967
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:05,640
sloppy bad and Torrance has been so good this year. And I watched a lot of I watched a lot of

968
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,720
replays of some of the penetration that the Bengals were getting on the right side of that

969
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:15,320
that offensive line. And they're like to your point, there's zero communication when I look at

970
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:20,040
it and this could be my Spencer Brown bias. Torrance is doing the right thing. He's passing

971
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:25,720
off the right defender to Brown. The problem is Brown, it looks law absolutely lost. And a lot

972
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:32,280
of those concepts absolutely lost. So and that's to say like I was like dunking on Brown all last

973
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:40,280
season and even the start of this season. Spencer Brown has improved measurably as a one on one

974
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:47,720
speed rush, you know, tackle. He has done an even power rush like he's done quite a lot to change

975
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:53,640
his pad level to make sure that he's playing with his feet underneath them and to cut off the angles

976
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,560
and make sure nobody's getting around him and nobody's able to spin back inside of him like

977
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:02,840
that's I've been impressed with that in one on one situations. The next evolution of his game

978
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:10,200
has to be he as a third year player and Osiris Torrance, the two of them need to learn to like

979
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:15,240
have that preter natural sense that, you know, Mitch Morris and Deion Dawkins have developed

980
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:20,760
through their career. And I'd say, you know, the other players that the bills fat on the line have

981
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:25,000
had in their career where it's like, you know where your guy is going to be without beat without

982
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:29,720
seeing him like not even in your periphery. You just know, based on the stuff based on the pressure

983
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:35,160
based on the matchup where he's going to be and how to squeeze those gaps down and close the pocket

984
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:40,040
up and make it safe and then seal it up. And the bill should be building that quicker because

985
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:45,960
there are one of four teams in the NFL that have had their preferred five offensive line starters

986
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:52,360
healthy for all nine games so far this year. So they should be in a position where that is improving,

987
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:57,080
not regressing. Well, that's the infuriating part is like the the defensive production and

988
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:05,080
defensive stats and ratings has been sliding. But I get why like the offensive stats ratings

989
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:09,080
all looks good on paper, but it looks terrible on the scoreboard and it looks bad on the field.

990
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:14,760
And they don't have a good excuse for it. Like, you know, there's no good excuse for why this

991
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:20,200
offense isn't dunking on teams 30 points every every week. There's a lot of uncomfortable reasons

992
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:25,400
and no good excuse for why. So yeah, JJ, one other quick tidbit here that I want to hit.

993
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:31,080
I mentioned moving Shakir more to the outside in this game in particular,

994
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:35,000
and potentially considering putting Gabe Davis in the slot a little bit more.

995
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:39,880
Reason being is because Fabian Morrow, who is the cornerback opposite of Pat Sartan,

996
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:47,160
has played relatively well this season for Denver, but can be got on certain route trees

997
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:52,760
and certain route packages. And I think in this game, Gabe Davis provides them a unique opportunity

998
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:59,800
to really get the middle of the field wide open for wide open for Josh, given the struggles of

999
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:04,600
this linebacking unit of the Denver Broncos that we had mentioned before. But I think if you give

1000
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:11,000
Josh two really big targets in Davis and Kincaid across the middle of the field and some of those

1001
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:16,440
mesh concepts that the bills like to run, I think you can really open things up there and force

1002
01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:21,560
Justin Simmons, who let's just say he's going to be playing bracket coverage over the middle of the

1003
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:27,800
field on Davis, you then open up the opportunity for Shakir to exploit a cornerback like Morrow.

1004
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:33,560
And if Diggs can win some of his matchups, you get some advantages on the outside and the middle

1005
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,800
of the field because there's only one Justin Simmons to go around in this particular game.

1006
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:42,600
So there's definitely some matchups I think the bills can exploit that'll work to their advantage

1007
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:47,640
if they do it, if they can just program it in and execute it. That's all it's about.

1008
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,720
We talk at Nazima about what this team needs to do to win, but at the end of the day,

1009
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:58,600
James Cook needs 20 plus touches, Dalton Kincaid needs over under five and a half receptions.

1010
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,840
Like we know what this offense needs to do. It's just a matter of week in and week out,

1011
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:07,240
they choose to do the thing for whatever reason that is least helpful to them in that game.

1012
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:12,120
So hopefully it's a course correction this game. Are you ready for some predictions?

1013
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,680
I absolutely am. Yep. All right. So let's start with score. Listen,

1014
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:21,960
there's a must win for the bills. Absolutely. At home, prime time, playoffs are on the line,

1015
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:27,960
dolphins are on a buy this week. So you can gain a half game and you can tie them in the win column.

1016
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,360
It's a must. It's an absolute must for the bills to have and I think they need to have it.

1017
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:36,440
The line on this game is seven and a half points. I think it's probably a little high.

1018
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:41,960
I get the bills have been good at home for the most part, but there is no reason to think that

1019
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,520
this bill's unit is should be more than a touchdown favorite against what has been an

1020
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:53,560
ascendant Denver Broncos team. So I've got this game, JJ 2824 Buffalo Bills win.

1021
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:59,720
I like it. I like it a lot. I'm pretty close to you. I have the bills win 31 24. I have them not

1022
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:04,680
covering but almost getting there. And I have them. The important thing for me with picking this game

1023
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:10,200
and for the bills is like, I do think I hope that they come out with kind of renewed

1024
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:16,040
fire on offense because that last week was not, you know, was not it. And they haven't broken the

1025
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:20,920
30 point threshold since the Miami game. And they I think they need to to prove to themselves

1026
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:25,560
that they're capable of it. And I think this is a good game for that. But I do think that the defense

1027
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:31,320
struggles to keep up because the Broncos have some they have some horses, they have some guys.

1028
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:36,680
And the defense could we could be looking at neither of the two starting safeties and possibly

1029
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:41,880
not having the one starting linebacker left on the roster. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the reality is

1030
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:46,280
the offense is going to have to go out and win this game. And the narrative, listen, man, if the

1031
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:52,920
bills lose this game, the narrative writes itself for fins up nation. We laid 70 on this team and

1032
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:57,800
you guys couldn't even lay 20 on them and win the game, right? It's not a narrative. Anyone wants to

1033
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:03,480
be exposed to it. It falls squarely into third, you know, second slash third in the AC East.

1034
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:08,440
Yeah. Yep. Correct. Correct. Behind the the vaunted New Jersey Jets who who Robert

1035
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:12,760
Sella doesn't doesn't know why he's still starting Zach Wilson. Hey, you got literally set in a

1036
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,240
press conference. You guys got me there. I got no idea. I don't know. He sucks. I don't know.

1037
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:22,520
We all know that's whatever my bad, I guess. I don't know. He says stuff like that. I'm like,

1038
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:26,840
I like Salo, but he's he's a defensive coordinator. He's not a coach. Yeah.

1039
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:32,360
All right. You got any props because I've got I've got some that I think are probably going

1040
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:39,080
to infuriate me. I've got one Dalton concaged 40 and a half yards receiving over over it's

1041
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:44,520
smashed that over smash that over. Absolutely. Buffalo Bill's defensive line and I'm going

1042
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:49,000
to give you the whole line over under two and a half sacks on Russell Wilson. Oh, okay.

1043
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:58,840
I'm going to go over just hopeful over. I'm going under realistic under. I just don't I don't think

1044
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:04,360
they've got it. I don't think they've got it. And without the threat of a Matt Milano crashing down

1045
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:10,760
through the gap or a Terrell Bernard crashing down and sugaring the gap, I just I don't I don't

1046
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,680
know that there's any real juice on this defensive line without beat up there. They're very beat up.

1047
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,120
That's that is a problem. I'm going to that's the problem. Like I said, it's a hopeful over.

1048
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:24,280
Yeah. I've got maybe maybe Russ runs into one. Von Miller. I've got a half sack. He's playing

1049
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:31,320
against his former team Super Bowl winning Broncos team. Does is this a game where he shows something

1050
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:37,960
under Dan under I'm going under. You know, people made a lot about that tweet he put out

1051
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:42,920
congratulating the Denver Broncos and finally beating the Chiefs after 16 straight games.

1052
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:49,160
And I people are like he's not loyal to the team. He's on no like but he he spent almost his entire

1053
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:56,920
career in Denver. Like would you like he he he he is the modern face of that franchise.

1054
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:01,240
Like that'd be like that'd be like people get like getting down on Stevie Johnson when he's

1055
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:06,280
playing for like the Houston, you know, Texan saying great job, Bill's on finally beating Brady.

1056
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:12,280
Like yeah, seriously, way to get the curse off. Right. Yeah. No, yeah. But but that being said,

1057
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:17,880
I'm taking the under okay. He's in the tank for the Broncos now. Yeah. I just until until I see it,

1058
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:22,760
I'm not going to put money on right like he he has not looked himself. No, absolutely.

1059
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:29,240
Take the under and it still hasn't been a year from an ACL tear. So like I'm still patient with

1060
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:33,560
Vaughan Miller. Yeah. And I think we should be I think we should be but his snap count should

1061
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,320
probably still be limited in this game, which is why I'm going to take the under. Yeah. All right.

1062
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,320
I've got here's one for you.

1063
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:51,320
Deontay Hardy over under half a touchdown. Oh, I'm slamming the under because I think that he's

1064
01:20:51,320 --> 01:21:00,120
been a waste of an investment. They have they have run exactly two shot plays for him all season.

1065
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:05,240
He was supposed to be this deep threat. Take the roof off the defense type hit that seam on one

1066
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:10,440
on one coverage and not nobody's catching him. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So but here's why I think

1067
01:21:10,440 --> 01:21:15,560
here's why I think it is over. I think if you are Ken Dorsey and you're going to incentivize

1068
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:20,360
Josh to play efficiently, there's got to be there's got to be a carrot at the end of the stick. As we

1069
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:25,480
said, it's it might not be digs in this game like it was in that Cincinnati game, but it could

1070
01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:31,080
potentially be Hardy because there is no one other than Pat Sartan who will be glued to Stefan

1071
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:36,280
Diggs. There's no one other than Pat Sartan who can keep up with Hardy's speed. Yeah. So if there was

1072
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:42,680
a game where you were going to throw the ball to the fastest player you have on offense and the guy

1073
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:48,920
you paid $5 million to in the offseason to catch deep balls from Josh, it would be this flipping

1074
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:55,560
game. All right. I like it. I'm yeah, I'm going under, but I appreciate your your hopeful over.

1075
01:21:55,560 --> 01:22:02,360
I am I am full of hope. I am full of hope that this is going to be an agonizing absolutely agonizing

1076
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:07,800
wash on Monday. I've got a full full Bill's defense. My final prop Bill's D.

1077
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:14,440
Point five turnovers generated under. Okay, just can't do it. I knew it. I just I had already

1078
01:22:14,440 --> 01:22:19,480
typed under before you even said anything because I'm taking it over. I think that they finally

1079
01:22:19,480 --> 01:22:25,720
get some turnover luck. It's been dude this week's dude. This is a team that literally went eight

1080
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:32,360
straight games last season, and they weren't even nearly as banged up as they were as they are now

1081
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:37,960
eight straight games last season without producing a single interception. Yikes. Like and all they

1082
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:43,800
were missing last season was Trey White. But that for that stretch in the secondary. I mean, I

1083
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:50,760
dude, I love this team. And I think this defense is this has to go down. I know you can't win

1084
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:56,040
coach of the year just for being a defensive coordinator. But the guts and the balls that

1085
01:22:56,040 --> 01:23:01,640
this defense is playing with and that the way McDermott is scheming it is like it should be

1086
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:06,920
taught in football coaching classes. All that stuff being said, they cannot produce a turnover

1087
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:12,360
to save their life. They can't stop the drive. They can't stop the run. They just can't. So

1088
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,920
I'm listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna take the under again until they they prove I should put money on

1089
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:23,560
the over. Okay. Yeah. All right. Well, that was well, that was not as cathartic as I wanted it to

1090
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:28,120
be. I know I'm like, All right, now it's time to wrap this up. And God, I still feel empty inside.

1091
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:35,560
Until I see this team play, the game I know they're capable of an offense. I'm just up this.

1092
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:40,440
Like I was I'm I've got no juice for even turning on the games like the last couple of weeks. I'm

1093
01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:45,800
just like, I guess I got to watch this game. I know. Well, there's that and I'm 40 and they're

1094
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:51,000
playing a lot of late. Yeah, that was exactly absolutely brutal for me. That is brutal for me.

1095
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:56,680
So yeah. All right, JJ, it was fun. If the bills aren't, aren't fun to watch, at least we're fun

1096
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:01,320
to listen to. And for all of you listening at home, like, share and subscribe wherever you get your

1097
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:17,240
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