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All right, welcome back to

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The illustrious Dan and JJ are here to break down the Monday night showdown

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between the bills and jets.

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Talk about our thoughts about the loss by the kids and chiefs

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against the Detroit Lions last night and get you ready for the game this Monday.

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Dan, how are you feeling?

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I feel a strong level of empathy for chiefs fans this morning

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because they woke up to a stat line that I think Bill's fans were sorely

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familiar with from last year.

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Patrick Mahomes on targets to wide receivers.

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Those wide receivers against Detroit last night in the season opener

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recorded four dropped passes on on on pace to on pace to shatter last year's

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Buffalo Bill's record of 29 dropped passes by wide receiver targets,

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which was second in the league in the most our team had seen since 2007.

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So so those of you in chiefs kingdom, I wake up feeling a strong bond with you

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today over wide receiver and competency.

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Well, welcome to our world, friends.

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Welcome.

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Welcome.

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It's been a while since we've seen you here with the easy button Travis

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Kelsey out of the lineup and Chris Jones missing from that matchup.

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I think that it really shows something that we've talked about on this pod

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before of it's it's great to put together a good roster of good footfall players.

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It's great to put together, you know, quality depth, you know, all levels of the field.

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But really, you need your superstars and when a team as dominant as the chiefs

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have been the last, you know, three or four seasons, most wins in the league

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over that span and two championships to speak of, of course, as a team

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that's dominant as a chiefs comes to a rising Detroit Lions, you know,

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match up and that home, no less, but doesn't have their two two of their

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biggest three superstars, I would say in Travis Kelsey, Chris Jones.

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It really I mean, it showed up.

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Detroit had a lot more availability in the middle of the field.

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And Patrick Malmöms did not have anyone he trusted anywhere around that field.

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Although I saw some good things from Rishi Rice.

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Yeah, Rice Rice, the highly touted rookie rookie draft pick for the chiefs.

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He looked good.

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He looks like someone that that team can develop.

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And I know everybody this morning is Barry and Kaderius Tony, rightfully so.

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That that pick six that Malmöms threw was all over Codoni.

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I mean, are all over Tony.

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It's Malmöms.

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Codoni, Codoni, Tony Malmöms put it right on his hands.

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And of course, the internet memes are are strong with our generation.

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There were immediately memes of Andy Reed never playing Tony again and all

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this other stuff.

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We've also got to remember that Andy Reed is the same guy who.

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After McCall Hardman made he fumble against the Buffalo Bills.

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And I can't remember what I can't remember which playoff matchup it was.

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I can't remember if it was 13 seconds or the AFC Championship game.

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It was the AFC.

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It was the AFC Championship game.

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Hardman fumbles absolutely Muff said gives it back to the Bills kills a great

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offensive drive very next drive.

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Reed goes right back to him.

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I think I think we're going to see him try to build up Tony in the same way.

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They gave up a second round draft pick, which is not cheap for him.

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They like his skill set in that offense.

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It rough start to the season and maybe the most miserable stat line I've ever

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seen, which is I think one yard on two targets with one catch and one absolutely

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Muff perfect pass from the homes.

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But this is the kind of stuff that separates Reed as a coach and developer

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from other guys in the league where other guys like Sean Payton who's saying

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you fumble a ball for me.

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I'm going to make your run outside the complex until you puke.

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Reed is going to figure out a way to factor Tony into the next game plan.

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And get him cooking.

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I mean, yeah, he probably will.

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I think that it's that's the storyline out of this.

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I mean, it was bad.

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I mean, Kaderis Tony also one one Gary one Gary for negative one yards.

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Like you said, one one catch on one for one yard on like four targets.

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And the thing I think that builds mafia, you know, confide with me on right now

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is the absolute gut-wrenching disgust of freaking Chris Collins.

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Chris Collins worth as, you know, things are falling apart for the chiefs

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continuing to fawn all over the chiefs.

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It's just disgusting.

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Like he has no journalistic integrity.

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We've been over this before, but he's, you know, when the lions are scoring,

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he's subtle it.

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And then when the chiefs are scoring, he's like, welcome to chiefs country.

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It's like, dude, you're not supposed to be a fan.

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You're a national media personality.

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And that got under a lot of people's skin and their, uh, the memes were flying

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around about Chris Collins worth as well as more.

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I think Collins worth knows that about himself.

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Like so many of these national talking heads are so self aware.

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Like they know what's going to get them in mentions and training on Twitter

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and all this other kind of stuff.

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Like Collins worth to some extent loves that he infuriates people and doesn't care

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because just make some richer.

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Like every retweet, every meme that you make of this guy, like just adds a zero

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to his contract with NBC.

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So I don't think he cares.

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I really don't.

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preview here for the bills, I would say that last night's game probably told

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us something that we already knew, which is without Kelsey, Kansas city is

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limited on pass catchers.

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They juju Smith Schuster was way more important to that team.

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Laster, I think than any of us realize, even though he was their leading

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pat leading, leading receiver, um, there is a limit on the, as long as we

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have my homes, we are good strategy because he's eventually going to need

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some talent around him.

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And ultimately, I didn't think the, I didn't think the Kansas city chief's

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offensive line played particularly well either granted.

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Aiden Hutchinson.

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Um, but the replacement of Wiley and, um, uh, who's the other guy?

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The other guy that just got rid of traded for him from Baltimore.

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Now signed with Cincinnati.

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Why can't I remember his name?

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Offensive tackle.

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Why can't I remember this?

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I'm going to have you look this up because I'm like, yeah, no, this

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thing, talking with her one.

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But, but replete, but replaced key left tackle position with Joanne Taylor,

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who is a Wiley veteran from Jacksonville, but doesn't have necessarily the, the

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mobility and lateral speed.

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I think that they have been used to at that position or Lando Brown or Lando

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Brown, that's the guy.

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God, why can't I remember that?

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No, except yeah, I know, right?

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Cause, cause yeah, um, cause I can't remember every single offensive line

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when the chief cycle through.

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I just remember the ones they stole from us, Creece, home free and traceman.

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How are we always be pissed about that?

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Every pod will mention Creed.

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Um, but yeah, I mean, those are my main takeaways.

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The wider, the past catcher group pass to improve it will get a bump when Kelsey

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is eventually healthy, but how healthy he'll be.

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It's an ACL strain, not a tear.

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That's something is going to be playing on a razor's edge with the rest of the

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year and the offensive line doesn't look as good.

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I mean, it's a team, it's a team that has my homes, but I think is objectively

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less talented offensively than it was last year.

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more challenging.

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I think that the Raiders are probably in a rebuild.

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And the chargers we have yet to see them, of course, this season, they didn't do a

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great deal to upgrade, you know, their run defense and some other things, but they,

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they did, you know, sort of refine and reload in some key positions on offense.

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So they look like they're leaning into that side of the ball a little bit more.

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So yeah, I think the chief, chiefs of a hard road, um, their schedule is not as

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terrible as kind of the bills, uh, dolphins, jets, Eagles, I think the Eagles have

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the hardest schedule in the league.

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So, um, it'll be, it'll be interesting to see where they kind of stand at the,

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after the first six games.

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And I think a lot of where they stand will depend on, as I said, the, those

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superstar talents and when they're back on the field and when they're back on the

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field and capable in Chris Jones and Travis Kelsey, because it was, it was

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obvious to me watching bits of that game last night that, um, that they just

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woefully, woefully missed those, those pieces.

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And for a chiefs team, you know, it's a little bit, it's, it's kind of like the,

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the, the bills build of their roster that, you know, we've lauded, um,

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branded bead for it almost started down there in Kansas city with, okay, we're

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going to get our young quarterback and we're going to build around them with

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capable short term, you know, free agents and some, and try to hit on some like

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meaningful draft picks that will build into something special, um, here and there,

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but really having a key two or three superstars on each side of the ball is,

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is part of that strategy.

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in the players.

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Um, and when you're missing two, you know, that's, that's kind of a big deal.

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I'm two of the biggest ones.

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either because that, that line, that line's team is, that's fair.

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They're so interesting, right?

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Like if I were, if I were to summarize what I saw from them,

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the, the offense has a very clear floor with Jared Goff.

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Noted this in the broadcast last night.

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I was only kind of half paying attention to him, but Jared Goff had played good,

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not great for stretches of that game.

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There were definitely some throws that he missed that could have broken things wide

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open, but that's what you get with a Jared Goff, high floor, low ceiling type of player.

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The scheme that Ben Johnson, their offensive coordinator is running.

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It re, I think people mistake it for old school ground and pound play action attack.

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That dude's doing some funky things with where he's lining up his guys.

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There was a, there were a couple of series where he had Sam LaPorta, the rookie tight end,

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out of God knows what school.

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coming out this year, had him lined up on the outside as a wide receiver.

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On Trent McDuffie, um, had him run a, uh, quick little cut route like he was going to block

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McDuffie, McDuffie bounced right off him, cut into the middle of the field, easy seven yard

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offense there work really well behind what is a very talented offensive line too.

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I mean, yes, the chief's got to go off at some point, like it's going to happen no matter how

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good your offensive line is, but that lion's offensive line really stood out to me the time

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that golf had and the, the, the, the complexity of some of the routes that Johnson has these

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wide receivers running.

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It requires a lot of time.

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It's almost like an Ohio state offense, like Ohio state, especially when, um, Justin Fields was

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the, was their QB, they were known for having these really complex, long developing route trees.

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It's very interesting to see Johnson is a coordinator.

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I'm going to keep an eye on as a potential head coaching candidate.

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Um, moving forward because I think that guy, that guy's going to get a shot.

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I liked what I saw from that offense, not just from a talent perspective, but a scheme

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perspective yesterday.

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That guy is all speed while you, you know, play to Georgia tech one year at Alabama was

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so good in that game, like average six yards per carry.

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So, you know, there's some, there's some exciting things about the trial ads.

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Then, you know, there's the, also the, you know, Chris Collins, or it's getting memed

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all over the internet, but then also, um, Dan Campbell is, is getting memed as, you know,

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like giant livestock with huge slinging testicles when he did, uh, we went for it under, did

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a fake, fake punt from his own 15.

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That early in the game.

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If had that failed.

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Had that failed.

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with his in game decisions.

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Like the river boat, Dan Campbell, like persona is, is alive and well.

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Had that not worked out, dear Lord, like dear Lord, you can't, you know, you can't,

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your only identity can't be, you know, he's like the edge Lord of football.

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He's like trying to, you know, be, be the like, the out most outside the numbers and

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most like obscene when it comes to his decision making.

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Um, you know, we're going to bite off their kneecaps is like going to haunt him forever,

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but he's backing it up by actually, you know, metaphorically biting kneecaps.

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You know, it's some crazy stuff.

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That's a guy who I think has been at least seven real kneecaps in his life.

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I can't talk about that with the level of beat without actually biting any.

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Yeah.

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No, I agree.

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I agree.

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He's a, he's definitely done the deed at some point.

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That, that man is, is authentic as we like to say.

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So, yeah, could have gone south.

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All right.

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Yeah.

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No.

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So good for the Lions.

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Yeah.

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Good for good for us.

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Good for the middle against the chiefs.

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Right.

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All right.

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There you go.

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And like I, I don't, I don't hate the chiefs.

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Like I hated the Patriots for so many years.

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I don't hate the chiefs.

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I think, you know, I only, I don't like them when the bills are playing against them.

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I think sometimes they get, you know, too much credit, but also they, like I said,

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they have two championship.

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They've been in five street AFC championship games.

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Like that's proven results.

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And so they're deserving of a lot of, a lot, it's not all of the praise.

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You know, it certainly hurts for us as bills fans because they've knocked us out a couple

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of times here and there.

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But, you know, I, I actually, I like the way they built the team.

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I let, there's a lot of players on that team that I admire and I think are excellent football players.

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And so it's kind of different.

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I want the bills to keep their heads in every time they go, that's them.

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But, you know, it doesn't mean I dislike them.

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I actually hate it.

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The Patriots, like I think Bill Belichick is a jerk.

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I think Tom Brady's is a punk, you know, and so that aside, any loss that the chiefs incur

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is a win for me.

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No, I agree on the, on the scale of, scale of torture and trauma.

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The New England Patriots are 20 years ahead of where the New York,

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the, the kids that achieve SARS for his arm concerns.

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So, all right.

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But yeah, again, congrats to the Lions winning the first official game of the season.

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And we are in a, in a neat transition that I'm about to do here.

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We hope the bills can do the same.

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So JJ, the Buffalo bills are playing meaningful football on Monday night against the New Jersey

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Jets.

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I don't know if you've heard that or not, but a big game coming up.

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So how do you want to do this, sir?

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You want to jump right into the game?

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Do you want to talk about some of the starting roster decisions first?

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Drive this boat, my friend.

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Where do you want to start?

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So, and so here's the way I'd like to go in the pod.

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And this is like, you know, any, any presenter who's ever had to go in front of people,

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like it's good to lay it out for people because then they can follow along.

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They know where we are.

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I think we should start by talking very briefly about the 53 men roster.

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It's been off for a couple of weeks now or just over a week.

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It feels like forever.

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53 men roster straight into kind of who, who won the starting jobs?

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Can we can talk about as we go through those positions?

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And then the first four weeks roadmap, finally with the bills and jets preview.

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How does that sound for you?

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I'm good with it.

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How surprised were you that Josh Allen made the team?

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I have to tell you, out of all of the surprises that could have happened,

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that's the one that shocked me the most.

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Okay. Yeah, I thought so.

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Even though it was touching go there for a while, he was a bubble player.

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But we also did all-seriousness.

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All-seriousness, no. I mean, not a whole lot of surprises.

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We had kind of talked about it last week on the pod as we previewed the 53 men.

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Now we actually have starters cemented.

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Not a ton of surprises here for me.

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I think the place that I am most sad isn't the right word, right?

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But the place where I am least surprised and maybe feel most meh about is

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Benford getting the starting job over Kair Elam.

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And this could have, this was being telegraphed by that bill's coaching staff.

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The way they were using Elam at the end of the preseason,

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they weren't treating him like a starter.

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All the extra reps that they were giving him,

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they clearly thought that he needed that work.

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So Christian Benford gets the starting gig, opposite of Trey White.

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And I think the thing I'll be most interested to see against the jets on Monday as we get real

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football is who's third DB up, right?

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Who's the first one off the bench?

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Is it going to be Dane Jackson or Elam?

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And I got a sneaking suspicion that it is Dane Jackson.

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And that Elam is buried at number four on the depth chart for outside corners.

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And I, in corner, we'll start on the defensive side of the ball.

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That's great.

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And I am with you.

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I think a lot of Bill's fans are disappointed that the coaching staff is not playing Elam.

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But if you watch his play, it's not that the bills are protecting him

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because he's too young or whatever.

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He's just, he's too inconsistent.

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He's much too prone to get a defensive pass interference call.

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And he tends to get those defensive pass interference calls in the absolute worst times.

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So he doesn't have great awareness at time, distance, you know, game situation.

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Like those are all super critical things in this defense and in any defense in the league.

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You have to know kind of where you are, where your help is and when not to make a mistake.

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And he's too mistake prone.

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You know, I think it's Joe Marino on lockdown bills often brings up the fact that Elam is 22 years old.

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He's two, almost two years younger than Belton concaid.

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And he's already, you know, onto his second season of the league.

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So, you know, he's still got some development time, but this feels a lot like,

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it feels like he is a diet version of Tremade Edmonds at this point.

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It's like, here's this guy with amazing physical gifts.

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And I say diet version because Tremade Edmonds, because of his draft position and the need on the team,

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basically slotted in its middle linebacker position and held it the whole way through his five years,

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his four plus, you know, bonus year as a rookie in the first round.

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Elam feels like that because I just think that he has this amazing physical talent,

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but he's not really putting it all together in the way that the coaching staff seems to want to see

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in consistency.

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And that was a thing that plagued Tremade Edmonds for the first couple of years.

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But he was always kind of his seat or his floor was much higher than the Elams.

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I think that you're right, Dan Jackson first.

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And there were no surprises in that cornerbacker.

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Not even with Christian Benford getting the start, like I said,

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the way that they were using them was pretty obvious.

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Well, and again, we don't want to we don't want to short sell Benford.

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He earned the job, obviously.

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They wanted to give him this job the last year before he got hurt.

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He got the starting nod over and Kyra Elam.

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He was a head of Elam on last year's depth chart, too.

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No, Ben, listen, Benford, well, not the physically gifted and talented as Elam.

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He is no slouch, athletically, like he's got some pretty great traits, massive wingspan.

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And he understands the scheme and he just he seemed to want it more.

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You know, they say about these small school guys that they just come in and they compete

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with a massive chip on their shoulder.

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And that was Benford.

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All camp, like he didn't let up for a single rep.

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He really gets the system.

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I think he'll be he will be a great option next to Trey White.

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I really do.

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It's just it's also sad to see a team like the bills coaching staff that can take a six

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round pick from Villanova and mold him into a starter in two years,

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not be able to do the same thing with an athletic stud with the pedigree of Elam,

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right?

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And we don't need to get back into it because we've talked about how this team can find

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guys off the trash heap and turn them into stars.

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And that's that's amazing value.

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We don't need to rehash what we talked about, but it is.

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It's this amazing disparity and it almost feels like hypocrisy that when they get some

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of these elite blue chip talents on the team, they're like, I don't know what to do with

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us.

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Like this dinner is too well prepared.

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I don't know how to enjoy this, right?

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Like I just I only need know how to repair my vehicle with gum wrappers and rubber bands.

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Exactly.

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And again, that's no knock on Benford, but he was a six round pick for reason.

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Yeah, you know what I mean?

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Like so.

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So yeah.

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So but no, I mean, it's not surprising.

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We'll see if if Elam bears the tag of bust.

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I do think the bills want to hang on to him for the reason that you've been doing this

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year and I control cost control basis.

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So yeah.

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And he can help me 25 before he the bills need to need to need to make a decision about

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his future.

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And he came in last year and he played some great situational ball for them down the

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stretch.

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Worst case scenario, he's a great situational piece they can put in.

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And he's a great situational piece.

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And he's a great situational piece.

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Much worse case scenario, he's a great situational piece they can put in, depending on what what

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McDermott is cooking up with some of the schemes that he's doing.

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And that could take some of the pressure off of Elam as well.

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Just come in in the situations we know you can handle where we know we've got a man up

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on this particular rep, come in and play to your strengths and do what you do, as opposed

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to asking him to absorb a completely different scheme and system from what he played in college

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in a season and a half.

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Right.

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So, yeah, so this this hopefully if the bills play it right, it could be good for them and

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could be good for Elam as well in his development.

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Anything.

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Yeah, go ahead.

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Yeah.

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I was going to say sticking with the defense.

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They named Tural Bernard who didn't play.

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I think he played maybe one snap, maybe not even one snap of preseason ball named Tural

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Bernard this this feels.

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Let it feels even less good than the quarterback position and middle linebacker because you

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know the question also on the longs who the heck's going to be lining up next to Matt Milano.

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It was a battle between Tural Dodson, Tural Bernard and Bale Inspector.

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Bale Inspector of course gets hurt out for the season.

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But before that happened, he was basically basically removed from yeah, he was removed

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from the mix pretty early on in training camp.

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And then it was a two person race between Dodson and Bernard.

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And I don't think that Tural Bernard being injured for most of preseason played himself

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into the position.

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I think Tural Dodson played him his way out of it.

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Yep.

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And that's exactly what happened.

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They were going to give Tural Dodson that chance to have the green dot on this element

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and call the defenses, which I think his communication, you know, Sean McBurman even congratulated

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him on that getting better in the offseason mastery of the defense and communication.

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But he against starters in the preseason, he was such a liability and coverage and had

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also made some seemingly made some some poor choices on run fits that I feel like they were

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put in a position where they're like, well, Tural Dodson in practice, you know, in the

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return of the blue and red screen, regent different places like that showed enough that

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we think he's probably got better upside.

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And they're going to go with Tural Bernard to start the game.

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And that's, that's actually kind of rare for Sean McDermott to talk about starters and

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where he plans on placing people.

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Because even coming out, you know, week one last year against the Rams and Bernard and

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Elam or Benford and Elam rather, we're going to play across from Dane Jackson.

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He didn't say anything is like, oh, it's still close.

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We're going to see what happens.

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But what, but this time around, he just straight up is like, no, you know, Benford gets to

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start at that CB.

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We're going to start, you know, Tural Bernard at linebacker.

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And so that's going to be really, I'm going to be really curious to see how it changes

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the game, having two sub 230 pound linebackers match up linebackers in the middle of the

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field.

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Yeah, it's, um, trust me.

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Yeah, it's, it is.

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Yes.

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But we also knew that that was likely going to be the direction that they were going to

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be no matter what, based on the traits that they had on the team at that position.

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It's interesting.

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And again, this is going to sound like a knock on Dodson, but it's interesting that the bills

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decided that zero preseason reps of Tural Bernard were more preferable to all the postseason

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reps of Tural Dodson.

466
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:31,880
That is really, but here, here's why I, here's why I like the move.

467
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,280
The bills, they don't seem to have plans for anybody on this roster outside of Josh

468
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,000
Hale and when it comes to development.

469
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,800
And they seem to stick and we've said this over and over again to same old, same old.

470
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,800
And Dodson's been on this roster for a while.

471
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:53,800
And we have seen Dodson play meaningful NFL games and not play well.

472
00:25:53,800 --> 00:26:01,560
Had they gone to the Dodson well, we would have known that this coaching staff muffed

473
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,200
another third round pick and Tural Bernard right away.

474
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,200
Yeah.

475
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,200
Right.

476
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,200
Nothing from their past mistakes.

477
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,200
Exactly.

478
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,200
Exactly.

479
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,640
And that's the thing that I think has been most frustrating about the way the bills have

480
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,880
managed the roster is that situationally and in some position areas, they will just simply

481
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:28,080
give guys chances far too, far too long into their, into their tenure with the team when

482
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,560
we can all see watching the game and watching film that some of these guys are cooked.

483
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,720
Had Dodson been the pick, it would, that would have represented to me status quo thinking

484
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,000
of the Buffalo Bills coaching staff.

485
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,520
The fact that it is Bernard and they're willing to take a chance on someone with his traits,

486
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,240
it tells me that they are learning from some of these mistakes that they have made.

487
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,000
Well, and I think to expand that out, it's, it's the fact that they're just going to

488
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,760
pull the trigger and go straight with, you know, Bernard on, on day one against in a

489
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:02,440
big, huge divisional matchup, you know, Monday night football where he could puke all over

490
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,560
himself, but they're going to, they're going to take that chance, right?

491
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,840
They're going to put them out there and they're going to let them take us through.

492
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,640
And yeah, they're going to let them try.

493
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,400
They're so adverse to doing.

494
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,400
Yeah.

495
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,400
They have been.

496
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,680
So that's really like, and even if I think I'm worried, if I, even if I'm worried about

497
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,400
it, I'm sure they're doing it.

498
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,960
And I hope that that extends to so many other players and we'll talk about some of the offensive

499
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,600
side of the ball, of course.

500
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:28,080
But I do think that there's another piece, another layer of it that is something else

501
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,320
that we wish this coaching staff would have done in years past.

502
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:38,680
And that clearing of, or the signing of Christian Kersey to the practice squad.

503
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,600
So by signing Christian Kersey, who's a proven starter at middle linebacker, proven communicator,

504
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:49,360
has some juice, especially with the past Russian blitzing and tends to, you know, played

505
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:51,040
with Houston last year.

506
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,960
The bill's new safety and secondary coach is from Houston.

507
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,640
Their defensive coordinator had some familiarity with, with Kersey and Cleveland.

508
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:05,600
Or I'm sorry, not the coordinator, their assistant defensive coordinator that they

509
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,560
brought over Al Holcomb has some experience with Kersey.

510
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,120
So there's a lot of familiarity there with this player.

511
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:15,440
And I think that he's, he's now in the practice squad can be elevated three times before they

512
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,280
have to sign up to the roster.

513
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,880
If things go really poorly after a couple of weeks, that's a backup option.

514
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,520
And that's something that we also had a problem with the bills not doing in years past of

515
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:31,600
finding somebody out in the field, it who could play or possibly produce better than

516
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:37,440
a danger exit than a Levi Wallace, then somebody who we saw repeatedly getting beat up, you

517
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,520
know, time after time.

518
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,800
They've shown that they're, if something is not up to their standard, they're not just

519
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,920
going to try to stick with the dependable low, low floor player.

520
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,920
Yep.

521
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,560
No, I agree.

522
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,720
I don't think if Bernard struggles, Dodson will be an answer.

523
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,480
I do think it will be Kersey who led the Texans, I think, as you mentioned in tackles

524
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,560
last season, I think an inspired pickup.

525
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,800
Sad that he's not going to fit into Miko Ryan's scheme over there, but hopefully it'll be

526
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,960
our game.

527
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,240
Hopefully we don't need to call him up.

528
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,400
Hopefully Bernard is able to grow into the role, but I do feel better with a guy like

529
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,840
Kersey waiting in the wings, who you know, again, is going to be one of those floor razors

530
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,840
for the squad.

531
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,600
And a position that is key for this Buffalo Bill's defense with all the nickel that they

532
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,600
choose to play.

533
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,640
So yeah, I think it's good.

534
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,920
And I think that might, that might wrap it up for us on the defensive side of the ball.

535
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,000
The defensive line, we kind of talked about what we're expecting and it all sort of lined

536
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,200
up last week when we were recording the pod.

537
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,160
So on the offensive line, again, I think we talked about some of these, but Ryan Bandemarck

538
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:48,840
and Alec Anderson make it over Quessnberry and, ah, geez, Mike Butger, which is another

539
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,040
dirt, that we each another representation of the coaching staff and Brandon being seeming

540
00:29:54,040 --> 00:30:00,160
to have learned a lesson of protecting themselves from falling into what's the whole comfortable,

541
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,480
you know, player and instead trying some younger guys with upside also evidence of the fact

542
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,760
that step that Sean McDermott announced of Cyrus Torrance getting the start over Ryan

543
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,800
Bates at right guard, which I'm really excited about.

544
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:19,080
Really nervous because his first matchups going to be against Quinn and Williams brutal.

545
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,240
Brutal because you have to prove it right away as a rock.

546
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,680
So, you know, and play Quinn and Williams kind of all over the middle of the line.

547
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,400
So he's definitely going to see some reps against him.

548
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,120
And I think it's it's serious.

549
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,160
I think Conor McGovern like welcome to the bills.

550
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,640
Here's one of the preeminent interior pod structures in the entire league.

551
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,400
Seriously, herds are going to have their work cut out of them open them.

552
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,840
But I am excited. I think that like if Cyrus Torrance proves what he kind of hinted at

553
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:53,320
in his preseason reps, you know, Brandon being may have actually found a starting caliber

554
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,760
offensive alignment in the first three rounds of the draft, which is almost unheard of to

555
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,160
this point.

556
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,160
It does.

557
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,960
I know there's like weird energy around bills fandom right now because the bills have been

558
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,400
the favorite for so long.

559
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,240
They've been competitive for so long.

560
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,680
And now it feels like there's been a retraction of the optimism around this team a little

561
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,680
bit.

562
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,320
But when you actually dig into the details, there is reason for optimism.

563
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,240
There are some trends that feel like they're changing.

564
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:27,520
But when you bet on younger players, as it looks like the bills are trying to do, it

565
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,840
comes with a lot more volatility and performance.

566
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,640
And I think this season, something that we haven't had to experience with this team over

567
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,520
the past three or four years is going to be the the ups and the downs.

568
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:48,000
I mean, the bills didn't lose a single game, I think last year by more than a field goal.

569
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,280
There could be some games because of some of the some of the youth at key positions on

570
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,280
this roster.

571
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,040
There could be some games that the bills look less competitive in than others.

572
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,440
And it's not a testament to the depth of the roster or the caliber of the players.

573
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,440
It's just this is what happens when you are letting young players take their lumps and

574
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,880
learn from their reps.

575
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,040
So there could be a lot more volatility and overall performance this year from this roster,

576
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,120
I think, even as deep as it is.

577
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,080
Well, I think there's also the piece of that, which is that, you know, some of the criticism

578
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,000
is consistent.

579
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,960
They were very consistent unit week over week.

580
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:31,000
And so with that, you know, of course, they they lost three games by combined eight points.

581
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,520
So they did not get blown out ever.

582
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,080
And they may because we're going to see Sean Matheram, probably dialing up exotic blitzes

583
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,400
and possibly having more toxic differential plays hit against them.

584
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,680
If somebody could get a quick, you know, the quick hot route against the blitzbeater.

585
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,680
And we can see that happen.

586
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,680
That's that may happen.

587
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,960
There might be some freeze or run stunt or something like that.

588
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,600
And we'll have to deal with it.

589
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,560
But I think that I'm I'm excited to try something different, try something new.

590
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,000
And that also goes for, you know, I kind of my last known.

591
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,200
And the roster is the fact that they kind of they kept Justin shorter and they kept

592
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:15,840
Dalton or they will likely have Dalton, Cain and 12 personnel as way more of a presence

593
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,840
in this offense.

594
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,960
I think there's going to be a substantial plan for Dalton compete.

595
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,440
And they played 20% of their snaps in the preseason and 12 personnel.

596
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,840
So clearly it's something the offense was working on, even if they weren't showing actual plays

597
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,240
and everything was vanilla.

598
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,400
They use that formation quite a lot.

599
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,400
They did.

600
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:39,040
And it was heartening to see them use it so frequently on early downs as well.

601
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,760
So they use a 20% clip on overall and some of their personnel packages.

602
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:50,000
But on early downs, that clip went up to as high as 35% in the first half of some games.

603
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,240
And they ran out of that personnel package close to 67% of the time.

604
00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:00,020
Now I don't think the bills intend to run more than half the time out of 12 personnel.

605
00:34:00,020 --> 00:34:03,440
They want to put it out there and then do some fun things in the past game.

606
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:09,720
But it's it was really nice to see them test out the concept of just how multiple they

607
00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:13,720
can be with that look in both a run and pass game.

608
00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:18,000
There was a lot made about so many of the Bill starters playing so many reps compared

609
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,960
to some of the other AFC East teams like Tyree Kill and Jaylen Waddle barely saw the field.

610
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:29,000
And the Miami Dolphins basically did what they did last year in the preseason of same

611
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,720
stuff, same groupings didn't really test out anything new.

612
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:35,600
They're just going to put guys out there and they're going to try to run past you.

613
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,480
That's basically their strategy.

614
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,440
But the bills that felt like we're legitimately working on things so that they could build

615
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,520
a really good foundation and get off to a better start at the start of the season.

616
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,960
And their groupings and 12 personnel and the usage of 12 personnel and the things they

617
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:56,120
tested, I think we're case and point around that the bills really used more than I can

618
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,520
remember this season is the preseason as a lab for kind of figuring out what it is that

619
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,240
they want to do with this team.

620
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:06,760
And I'm excited to see what they roll out.

621
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,760
I don't think we're going to see a lot of it work to great efficacy against defense

622
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,560
as high quality as the Jets.

623
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:19,560
But I'm excited to see the bills again, acknowledging what their shortcomings have been from a personnel

624
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,440
and scheming perspective and working to correct some of those things in a really, really significant

625
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,440
way.

626
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,280
Yeah, same.

627
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,160
So I mean, I think we can probably get into it.

628
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,840
I don't have any other notes on the roster as it all shook out.

629
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:41,240
Oh, I think we recorded when they had already signed a semilay to the tackle.

630
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:42,240
Yeah, yeah.

631
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,880
Yeah, let's move on.

632
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,360
Let's start with the Jets game preview.

633
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,480
Dan, if you had to answer this question, how do the bills win on offense?

634
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,920
You started talking a little bit with how talented the Jets defense is, but like if

635
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:03,360
you had to draw up design or if you look back on a bill's win, what do you think happened

636
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,440
and how would it have to go?

637
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:17,800
If the bills win, then that means Josh Allen was sacked less than three times.

638
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:25,920
James Cook had 20 touches for 100 total yards and Dalton Kincaid had at least one red zone

639
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,280
touchdown.

640
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:33,000
So those are things to me that would signal a good bills offensive effort.

641
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,280
I've left stuff on digs out of it, not because I don't think digs can play well against the

642
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,800
Jets.

643
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:46,040
But I think the way the Jets scheme generally is they want to drop a bunch of guys into

644
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,040
zone.

645
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,240
They want to drop seven into zone.

646
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,960
They want to rush for and they don't want to blitz.

647
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,680
And the key turning point in that week nine game, I went back because I'm a sadist.

648
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:02,680
I went back and I watched both Jets games in the all 22.

649
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:10,160
And the first half of that week nine game, the Jets were not playing zone at a very high

650
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,160
clip.

651
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:17,000
So the Jets, if for context, one of the most zone heavy schemes last season, they run

652
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:22,360
zone at about 67% of the time, which is like seventh highest in the league last year.

653
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,500
And the QBR that they allowed out of zone coverage was the third, like third worst for

654
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:28,640
opposing offenses.

655
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,920
So third best defensively.

656
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,160
So this is a team that was very effective in zone.

657
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:40,760
But through week nine, we saw teams trying to get really cute with Allen and teams were

658
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,720
mixing up zone with a lot of man, a lot of man blitz packages.

659
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:48,320
It was notable that Kansas City did it a couple of weeks before.

660
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,440
And we had said on the pod on multiple occasions, yeah, you can blitz Josh, but he's eventually

661
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,040
going to figure that out.

662
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,200
He's eventually going to find where the weak spot is.

663
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,040
And he did it.

664
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,640
Weeks one through eight.

665
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,080
The Jets came out with a very similar scheme.

666
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,640
I mean, the very first touchdown best to digs.

667
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,280
Sauce Gardner was in man on digs, fell on the route, digs goes 42 yards to the house

668
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,480
for the touchdown.

669
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:17,000
That would be the only touchdown that Josh Allen would throw for that game.

670
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,920
So on the very first play of the game, he would then follow it up in the second half

671
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:26,480
with two interceptions, one again to the aforementioned sauce Gardner.

672
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,080
The difference being is that the Jets were like, F it, we're just going to we're just

673
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,280
going to flood.

674
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,440
We're just going to flood the passing lanes with as many Jets jerseys as we can.

675
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,480
And we're going to trust that our four guys are better than their five guys up front.

676
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,840
And they were 100 percent correct.

677
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,200
I believe and they also this is also a team that didn't believe the bills could run against

678
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,960
them either in game one and week nine.

679
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,760
The bills saw light saw light boxes on 59 percent of the steps.

680
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,480
And then in the second game, it went all the way up to 65 percent.

681
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:07,600
So the Jets were pretty honed in for six quarters of football and what they thought Dorsey Allen

682
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,320
and that bill's offense were doing.

683
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,400
And it showed.

684
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,120
It really did show Allen's QBR against the Jets in that week nine game when he played

685
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,600
zone was eight point four.

686
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:23,400
Now it went up to 81 in the second game because Josh played a relatively mistake free game

687
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,560
and did some stuff with his legs.

688
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:31,560
But this Jets team is going to play zone as much as they can against the bills, which means

689
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,840
they are rushing for being in that zone concept.

690
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,080
There's a couple of different ways they can go about beating it.

691
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,280
One of them is to exploit the middle of the field with some sort of flood concept, which

692
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,920
is why you've got a guy like Dalton Kincaid who can be a middle of the field zone beater

693
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,920
for them.

694
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,040
So that's why I say Kincaid is going to factor in key.

695
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:57,040
I don't think the Jets are going to play 65 percent light boxes against this bill's offense,

696
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,000
but I think it's going to look more like week nine.

697
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:05,160
It's going to be in the 55 to 59 percent range, which means James Cook needs to establish

698
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:10,920
himself against those light boxes and make that Jets defense think twice about just dropping

699
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,160
everybody back.

700
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,640
This has to be a chunk yardage game for James Cook and both the run game and in the short

701
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,080
yardage passing game where the passing game is working as an extension of the run game

702
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,080
here.

703
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:27,280
So and then you've got to protect Josh, which they weren't able to do an either game.

704
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,120
So if they can protect Josh and Cook and Kincaid have good games, everything else to me is

705
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,880
gravy, and that to me is the recipe for success and the keys to what the bills need to do

706
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,880
on offense.

707
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,920
That was incredibly succinct and perfectly on point.

708
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:50,840
I can't add any notes other than I do think that we should see the bills being able to

709
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:58,640
run over the right side to Torrance and oh my gosh, why can't I think around?

710
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,080
They look much better in the run game though.

711
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:08,160
I want to see them out on the move, kind of road gritting and see what James Cook can

712
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,440
do off of their hips because I think that that's an advantage that the bills can have

713
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:20,240
because that middle of the Jets defense in the linebacker core is not, they're not super

714
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:23,840
efficient run stoppers and they're not super great in coverage.

715
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,960
So like you said, the middle of the field, I think is a little bit of a folder ability.

716
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,160
And I think that running off that right edge might give a young player in Torrance and

717
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,560
then also young and hopefully now healthy player and spend around the opportunity to

718
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,040
kind of do what they're best at, which gets the nerves out a little bit and gets them

719
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,080
comfortable.

720
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,800
And so I'd like to see the bills come out and really test that defense, which the Jets

721
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,520
had an amazing rushing defense last year.

722
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,520
Or they had amazing overall defense, but they didn't have an amazing rush defense.

723
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:59,760
They had an excellent, you know, top five passing, but they, if they did give up space,

724
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,200
it was like you said, they drop along the coverage.

725
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,760
If they, if they gave a yardage in a game, it was usually to the run.

726
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,760
So hopefully the bills can establish that early, get the play action pass going.

727
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:15,120
I think Josh had the least amount of play action passes of the top 10 passers in the

728
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,260
league last year because it just was never a threat.

729
00:42:18,260 --> 00:42:23,040
No defense was getting afraid of, you know, Devin Singletary breaking off a big one on

730
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:28,760
them, even though I very much liked motor, you know, it wasn't as much of a risk to a

731
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,280
defensive court here.

732
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,280
All right.

733
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,720
So I'm going to hit a note on what I think the bills defense needs to do.

734
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:45,080
I think that the additions of Malcolm or Leonard Floyd and the growth of Greg Russo, along

735
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:50,400
with, you know, hopefully AJ Abanesa also comes back and has a strong year and grows,

736
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,960
takes another step and then Ed Oliver playing kind of on fire with his new contract.

737
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,120
Some players shut it down.

738
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,800
Koff Koff, Marcel Darius and other players get motivated when they sign that big contract.

739
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,540
So I'm hoping to see Ed Oliver take a step here and he think he feels or sounds like

740
00:43:07,540 --> 00:43:11,480
he feels like he has to prove something and that really like him to do that.

741
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:18,600
And so I see the bills front for being a strength, especially against that super unreliable jets,

742
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,680
you know, offensive line there.

743
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,200
They have some aging veterans.

744
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:27,520
They've got Mackay Bekton, who hasn't played a home game in front of the Jets crowd in

745
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:33,800
his career because he's been hurt for the entire seasons, two of his, both of his seasons.

746
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,480
And so it's going to be kind of juiced up in that environment.

747
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,280
And I think that there's some vulnerability there, even though he is like literally a

748
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,920
barn of a human, like it's impossible to run around him.

749
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,360
But we'll see, we'll see how they can do, you know, off the edge against Mackay Bekton.

750
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,240
I don't think their interior, their offensive line is, is very good.

751
00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:57,680
And if it is good, it's not very consistent.

752
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:03,480
And so I'm excited to see what the bill's defensive line can do against the, that, that

753
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:10,240
front as well as, you know, it's the cook bowl, Dalvin Cook is again rushing for the

754
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:13,520
Jets and his brother James for the bills.

755
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,160
So that's going to be interesting to me.

756
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:20,000
And I think that we're going to see the first pictures of Sean McDermott's defense and

757
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,360
how he likes it to be an attacking style.

758
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,760
Again, might, you know, be boom or bust in some regards because it's going to be aggressive,

759
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,760
but I'm excited to see how it goes.

760
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,160
Yeah, me, me too.

761
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:40,520
I, it's tough, it's tough to game out what the bill's defense needs to do very specifically

762
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,520
against the Jets offense.

763
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,040
Cause we don't know.

764
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,080
We don't, we don't know what it's going to look like.

765
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:54,600
I don't think the Jets want Rogers at 39 years old to chuck it up 40 times a game.

766
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,360
But I could be, I mean, I was wrong about that when the bills played Indianapolis a

767
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,760
couple of years ago in the playoffs.

768
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,000
And I'm like, Indianapolis will have failed miserably and lost by three touchdowns.

769
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,400
The Phillip Rivers has to throw it more than 30 times.

770
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,080
And he threw it 45 times and it was a close game.

771
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,080
Right.

772
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,320
So, so I could be wrong about that.

773
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:16,080
I think Rogers wants to chuck it up because he thinks he can still do that and he's playing

774
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,160
with a little chip on his shoulder.

775
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:25,480
But I think the Jets are going to want to control the point of attack just a little bit more.

776
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,000
And kind of like the Buffalo Bills, there are segments of that offensive line.

777
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:35,920
They have their own Conor McGovern and they've got Elijah Vera Tucker that are better in,

778
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:41,040
in the run game than they are in the past game at this point in their development.

779
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,240
When you've got Brie Saul coming back, he'll likely be on something of a pitch count in

780
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:50,560
Delvin Cook, who is new to the offense and just learning some of the schemes that Hackett

781
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,560
wants to run.

782
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:58,400
I think that there is an, an opportunity here that the bills can exploit as the Jets are

783
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,440
figuring out who they want to be on that side of the ball.

784
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,600
I think the Jets are going to want to run.

785
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,200
And I think that will pose a legitimate threat to this bill's defense.

786
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,440
But I don't think they're going to have it gamed out enough with the newness of Cook

787
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:17,000
to the roster and the uncertainty about how much they can push Hall at this point in the

788
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,000
season.

789
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,640
I don't think they're going to be able to exploit it to their fullest.

790
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:27,360
This feels like a really good point in the season for this bill's defense and McDermott

791
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,400
and the newness of that scheme to catch a team like the Jets because they themselves on the

792
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,680
offensive side of the ball are also trying to figure something out.

793
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:40,280
And Rogers is a notoriously slow starter to each season.

794
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,360
And I think that's something that him and the Jets have both acknowledged by the fact

795
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,760
that Rogers has actually played some reps this preseason, which he hasn't done, didn't

796
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,520
do in Green Bay for the last 10 years.

797
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:58,320
So I, I think between Rogers history to start slow, the newness of the offense, and I think

798
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:03,440
the inherent conflict of what the Jets are going to want to ultimately do on offense

799
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,480
and what this team will look like at the end of the season, but their lack of ability to

800
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,520
do it now because of where the roster and where some of the personnel is at, I think

801
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,840
is an opportunity for the bill's defense to really shine in this game.

802
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,360
It's got to shine at the point of attack.

803
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,040
It's got to shine on that line.

804
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,560
But also this feels like a good game for new pieces like Christian Benford and Terrell

805
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,600
Bernard to really earn some of those reps.

806
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:32,480
I also think this is a good game to see Trey White against Garrett Wilson in what everyone's

807
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,320
describing as Trey White's comeback tour where he, he looks like Trey.

808
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,320
He's moving like Trey.

809
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,720
He has a confidence, the swagger.

810
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:39,720
Yeah.

811
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:44,120
But the type of, you know, fun loving, you know, nature about him that they maybe didn't

812
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,920
see when he first came back from his injury because he wasn't there mentally yet.

813
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:54,000
So I'm excited to see Trey White rising to the challenge of offensive rookie of the year.

814
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,200
Garrett Wilson, you know, early on, if they do, if they play matchup, which they may do

815
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:04,040
because I think after Garrett Wilson, it's a much more suspect group of pass catchers.

816
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,720
And I think that they probably would trust Trey White following Garrett Wilson and may

817
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:12,520
not trust Benford, but they've never played that way.

818
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:13,520
We'll see.

819
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,520
It's McDermott's year.

820
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,520
So we'll see how he's different.

821
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,400
Leslie Frazier never followed the team's best wide receiver in matchup coverage because

822
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,440
he, the defense was a defense and they were in their zones and they did their one 11th

823
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,040
and so on and so forth.

824
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,800
So it'll be interesting.

825
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,960
It will be and Garrett Wilson played really well as a rookie against the bills and against

826
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,960
this bill's defense.

827
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:38,040
It'll be interesting to see what it looks like with a healthy secondary, albeit an aging

828
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,320
one, with White getting to the latter stages of his career.

829
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,560
We've talked about the age of Poyer and Hyde.

830
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,000
Hyde dealing with it also seems like a minor back issue at this point too.

831
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,960
Not great before you've played one game, but I think if there is a, I think ultimately

832
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,480
if there is a game for Sean McDermott and to roll out a new scheme and really kind of

833
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,760
kick the tires on some things, it would be this game and that's no disrespect to the

834
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,320
Jets offense.

835
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,000
We just, we just, I don't think they know what it's going to look like when they roll

836
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,000
it out.

837
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,000
Right.

838
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,200
Like I think it's going to be much better later on down the season.

839
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:21,920
But I just, I, this doesn't feel like a team that is built to come out and be gangbusters

840
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,920
in week one.

841
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,360
I'm actually anticipating this can be a low scoring game.

842
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,080
I think the, the over and around this game is 46.

843
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,280
I'm taking the under by a lot.

844
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:37,560
The Jets did not play a single game last season where the combined score was more than 36 points.

845
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,200
And that had everything to do with their defense and their offense.

846
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,200
Right.

847
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,200
Right.

848
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,560
Well, and I think, yeah, you make a good point.

849
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,640
And it's also the kind of thing where it feels like maybe the lines are moving because

850
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:53,440
they see Josh Allen versus, you know, uh, Aaron Rogers, but they don't see the number

851
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,240
three overall defense versus like the number five overall defense, right?

852
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:01,640
Like that's, that's the part that, that maybe betters are ignoring that when they start

853
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,520
picking those, you know, picking their way up that line is it's, it's going to be probably

854
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:06,520
a slug vest.

855
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,040
It's probably, we're probably going to see some icky drives, you know, those drives

856
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,640
where it's like, oh, they made it four yards on six plays and everything.

857
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:16,640
Yeah.

858
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,600
There was an LB and like lots of three and out.

859
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:19,600
Lots of punt.

860
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,440
Like it's just, it's good.

861
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,440
And it's, it's gonna.

862
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,440
Get ready.

863
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,440
Yeah.

864
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,440
I know.

865
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,440
Seriously.

866
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,440
You're not going to have to pull up a newspaper to prove you're in the stadium that day.

867
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,440
That's right.

868
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,600
Warm up the quads, my friend.

869
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:30,600
You're going to need them.

870
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:31,600
But yeah.

871
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,240
And again, no disrespect to either of these offenses.

872
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:38,480
Just both of these defenses seem much farther along and where they need to be.

873
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,400
And again, the Jets that they know how to play this bill's offense, they really do.

874
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:47,840
So, but I, if you were to ask me right now, which offense is better suited to take on the

875
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,760
opposing team's defense, it would be the bills.

876
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,000
I think it would be the bills right now.

877
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,760
Um, but yeah, that's going to be interesting.

878
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,920
Josh didn't play great against that Jets defense last year.

879
00:50:58,920 --> 00:50:59,920
He did not.

880
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:00,920
Right.

881
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:01,920
In two meetings and either meeting.

882
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:02,920
Yep.

883
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,840
Do you, um, do you got a, you said you're, you're taking the under, do you have a score

884
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:06,840
prediction?

885
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:07,840
Yeah.

886
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:08,960
So I do have the bills winning this.

887
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,080
I think the, the line on this game has been really steady at two and a half.

888
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,560
It opened at one and a half favoring the bills and it's sitting at two and a half in favor

889
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,200
of the bills right now.

890
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:25,120
I think this game is like a 17, 14 kind of game for the bills.

891
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:30,400
I think they ultimately end up covering and, and when a close ugly one, but I, I don't

892
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:36,480
think if people are expecting to see the, one of the best offenses in the league and

893
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,760
the bills, which they have been over the past few years against an up and coming revamped

894
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,640
offense with some great young skill players and the Jets playing at their best on Monday

895
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,680
night, I just don't think we're going to get that.

896
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,600
So I think this feels like a 17, 14 type of game with the bills taking it.

897
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,600
Okay.

898
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:54,600
Yeah.

899
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:55,600
No, that's, that's, that's a good one.

900
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,280
I'm, I'm looking at a 24, 21 bills win.

901
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,480
So I think they're going to go over because they said the, the over under is 42.

902
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,640
For 46, I think on this game.

903
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:05,640
Okay.

904
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:06,640
So I also hit the under.

905
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:07,640
Yep.

906
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,640
Um, 24, 21, um, just under.

907
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:16,280
Cause I do think, and here's where I think the difference is, um, early in the season,

908
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:22,000
you might see some like, you know, rust, some rust and, and, and accuracy on offense, but

909
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,760
you also see like a lot of those week one games, there's like all kinds of random stuff

910
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,760
that happens.

911
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,760
Yeah.

912
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,800
Like special teams wins and like pick sixes against, you know, that the homes, like that

913
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,360
stuff's like not common.

914
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,360
And I think we might see some uncommon stuff.

915
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,840
So maybe a defensive score here or there, or a special team score or something to drive

916
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,840
those, those points up a little bit.

917
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:51,240
And then I do think that the bill's advantage on offense is that they, they now have, um,

918
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:54,840
you know, several meetings against Robert Sala.

919
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,960
And I think that they're, they're three and they're three out of four strong McDermott's,

920
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,200
you know, at one, three out of the four games he's had against Sala and that defense.

921
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,120
And even though Josh Allen has not played like we normally see Josh Allen, that deep

922
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:14,920
pads is, is very good, they also, you know, have the advantage of not, you know, reaching

923
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,520
the jets at a point in time in the middle of their season and potentially looking past

924
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,840
them because the jets are, you know, flipping between, um, you know, completely ineffective

925
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,840
quarterbacks.

926
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,040
I, I believe that bills are taking this game much more seriously than maybe either the

927
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,800
matchup they had last year, even though it's in the division and will come kind of ready

928
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:40,040
to fire because I remember watching that week one game last year against the Rams who had

929
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:45,640
just won a Super Bowl and the bills just like absolutely were on the war path and they were

930
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,920
on the road then too.

931
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,440
So I like to see that.

932
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,720
I agree with what you said.

933
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:54,280
Aaron Rogers tends to have really bad week one games and I can only imagine that's going

934
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:59,160
to continue even though Nathan Hackett, Nathan, you'll hack it is the OEC here and was his

935
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:04,920
OEC during his MVP campaigns, you know, two of the last four years in green Bay.

936
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,520
I, I just, you know, I think he's going to have a rocky start here too because, you know,

937
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,360
he's old, he's a year older than those campaigns.

938
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,640
He is in a brand new team.

939
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,840
Even though he had, he brought his plays with them.

940
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:21,080
He has new people to play with and, uh, and so I can see that combined with him being

941
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:26,520
a little bit more statuesque than he may, may was, or maybe was when he was younger years

942
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,440
that bills have a rejuvenated pass rush will definitely help out.

943
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,440
Yeah.

944
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,440
No, I agree.

945
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,760
I agree with the, the mentality too that, that I see the bills walking into this game

946
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:42,160
with, even though I think it's going to be an, an ugly physical game, uh, to kick things

947
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,240
off on Monday night.

948
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:44,240
And again, I could be wrong.

949
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:46,040
I'm wrong about most of this stuff.

950
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,040
I agree with you.

951
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,800
The mentality of the bills are bringing in.

952
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,600
They feel very locked in at this point.

953
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:58,360
Like Diggs was, Diggs was almost, was almost like beside himself when someone said, well,

954
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,720
how do you explain your guy's struggles against this Jets defense, um, over, uh, last season.

955
00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:06,360
And Diggs was like, I had 93 yards against him in the first game.

956
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,760
I don't know what you're talking about.

957
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:08,760
Right.

958
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:13,120
Now he didn't mention he had 34 yards against him in the second game, right?

959
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:18,520
But, but, but there is a different kind of confidence and, and ferocity that the bills

960
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,760
seem to be bringing into this game with them.

961
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,680
They're definitely not scared about playing on the road.

962
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,000
You're right.

963
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,800
It's going to be really interesting to see what they do with some of their signature

964
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:28,800
pieces on offense.

965
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,280
Cause again, you bring up a good point.

966
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:35,640
I think the bills are, I think the bills offense in particular, not that they're comfortable

967
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,600
with a solid defense necessarily, but they've seen it a lot, right?

968
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,000
They've had some success with it in the past.

969
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,360
I think last year in part, they got too cute on offense.

970
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:50,040
We had said on this pod that we just want to see Diggs line up against sauce and do his

971
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,040
thing.

972
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Let, let pro play pro strength, play strength.

973
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,880
And let's just see who wins.

974
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,760
And Dorsey did the opposite of that.

975
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,280
Diggs lined up in the slot against the Jets.

976
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,680
48% of his routes against the Jets in two games.

977
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,720
Like they were trying to hide Diggs from Gardner, right?

978
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:11,360
Which ended up putting Gardner on Davis completely shutting off the boundary.

979
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:16,920
It just made the Jets job easier to hide Diggs in the slot that the way they did.

980
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,800
You can bracket easier in the slot.

981
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,000
You don't just have, you don't.

982
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,040
You only have the sideline to use.

983
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,040
Exactly.

984
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,040
Exactly.

985
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,000
So it really limited what Diggs could do.

986
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,840
I think let Diggs be Diggs, let him line up on both areas of the outside, let him play

987
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,880
read, let him play Gardner and let, let's see what he can do against a couple of, a couple

988
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,000
of elite cover corners.

989
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,320
Yeah.

990
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,320
I think that that's good.

991
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,000
Do you have predictions?

992
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:49,800
I mean, outside of the score, I've got James Cook with, I got the over under it, 19 and

993
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:50,800
a half touches.

994
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,800
I think it's going to be over.

995
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,840
I think they're going to want, they're going to want to find a way to get Cook involved

996
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:01,600
in the traditional run game, but also in the short yardage passing game as well.

997
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,600
I think the bills are going to focus very, very strongly on trying to get Cook involved.

998
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:11,520
I mean, last year he, he averaged 5.7 yards per carry.

999
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,440
So he was pretty good out of the traditional run game.

1000
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:20,280
It's not that the bills don't hand it off traditionally in early downs at any kind of

1001
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,280
high clip.

1002
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:26,040
So, and again, I think we mistake this balance conversation for 50-50.

1003
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:31,640
We're not saying you should take the ball out of Josh's hands on 50% of the snaps.

1004
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:36,040
What we're saying is you need to make the D, you need to run the ball enough effectively

1005
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,920
to make the defense think twice about pinning his ears, but their ears back and going after

1006
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,960
your franchise QB.

1007
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:48,960
And the Jets have added some real speed to that defensive line, which could prove a problem

1008
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:54,000
in past protection for both Spencer Brown, who has struggled with speed rushers and Osiris

1009
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:59,360
Torrance who just hasn't seen NFL level speed rushers yet at this stage of his career.

1010
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,880
So you're going to see Will McDonald.

1011
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,760
You're going to see Quentin Williams.

1012
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,640
He's said they're going to come ears, pin back a great way to negate guys that just

1013
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:12,040
want to run at the QB is to hand it off to a running back and let them run right past

1014
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,040
them.

1015
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,040
Is there going by?

1016
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:18,440
So I think Cook needs to be involved in both the traditional run game for balance in the

1017
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,360
way we mean balance.

1018
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,960
And then also in the short yardage game.

1019
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,880
So I've got Cook at over 19 and a half touches for this game.

1020
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:27,880
Good.

1021
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:28,880
That's a good one.

1022
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:36,160
And I think you mentioned one, but I'm going to steal it of Dalton Kade, one red zone touchdown.

1023
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,200
It's an area the bills need to improve.

1024
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,560
And they were such a mess in the red zone last year.

1025
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:45,560
And they were a bit of a mess the year before their last year under day ball two, but you

1026
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,720
could see them figuring stuff out as the season went on.

1027
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,080
And we were like, there'll be a top 10 red zone offense again by the end of the season.

1028
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,080
And they were, they finished.

1029
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,880
They were, they were number nine, right?

1030
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,280
Last season, you did not see them going to the lab in the same way to figure that out.

1031
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,800
And it felt like each week, especially after Allen's injuries, they had fewer and fewer

1032
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,920
solutions for the red zone.

1033
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,360
This year, they've really upgraded the personnel to where I think they should be more effective.

1034
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:16,800
I mean, this should, this should be easily a top seven red zone offense.

1035
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,280
So can Kate get it?

1036
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:23,080
Can Kate getting a red zone touchdown would show me that they figure some stuff out the

1037
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,680
last 20 of the field?

1038
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:30,120
Yeah, I don't have any other predictions, you know, in that vein, but I will say to

1039
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:36,320
all bills mafia, if you're listening to this, and the bills offensive line looks bad on

1040
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,280
Monday night, just rest easy.

1041
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,840
This is probably the top, top three unit.

1042
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,400
They're going to see this entire year.

1043
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,800
This might be the best unit.

1044
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,280
Yeah, this might be the best, best single unit.

1045
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:53,600
It's got eight pass rushers that are all NFL starter caliber caliber in a rotation, much

1046
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:58,320
like the bills defensive line that we've, you know, always very much or we've liked

1047
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,760
very much for a very long time.

1048
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,060
This Jets defensive line is going to know how to bring the heat.

1049
01:00:04,060 --> 01:00:09,080
And we're going to see an offensive line with two brand new pieces.

1050
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,800
It's simulating in Osiris Torrance and Conor McGovern.

1051
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,520
And so it might be bumpy.

1052
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:15,520
It might be bumpy.

1053
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:16,640
Buckle up.

1054
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,240
I promise you the offensive.

1055
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:23,560
I trust this offensive line to get it together, even if they have some, you know, some misses

1056
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,200
on Monday night.

1057
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,400
That's very heartfelt.

1058
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,800
I appreciate it.

1059
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,080
Normally you are lighting this offensive line on fire.

1060
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,520
So that's very nice of you to hear.

1061
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:37,640
Well, because I, because I have so much, so much goddamn hope that it's fixed.

1062
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:42,960
Like, I can't, because if I despair already, then there is no hope for the rest of the

1063
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:43,960
season.

1064
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,800
So I have to believe that they did what they needed to do by investing pre a premium pick

1065
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,360
and premium funds in pre agency to fix the interior of that offensive line.

1066
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,640
And if they did not, man, I'm, I'm, I'm done.

1067
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:56,640
I'm done.

1068
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,640
I'm not done.

1069
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,640
I know I'm always going to be a fan, but I'm really disappointed.

1070
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,040
I was not going to mad.

1071
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,560
I'm just, I know, I know.

1072
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,920
I think, I think it's going to be ugly if it makes you feel any better.

1073
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,280
I don't know that just offensive line is going to play any better.

1074
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:15,040
And if they do, that is more of a testament to the, how poor this bill's pass rush is

1075
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,440
that it is the offensive line caliber of the New Jersey.

1076
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,040
It goes in the opposite direction on the bills, you know, defensive line.

1077
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:26,200
The ball is, if they look, the offensive line to the jets looks awesome.

1078
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,200
It's probably just the builder tarot.

1079
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,520
It's just an us thing.

1080
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,520
Right.

1081
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:31,520
That's just an us thing.

1082
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:32,520
So yeah.

1083
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,280
And we can't wait to get on Miller back in weeks.

1084
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:35,280
Oh my God.

1085
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:36,280
So we'll see.

1086
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:37,280
But all right.

1087
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,400
For those of you listening at home, like, share and subscribe wherever you get your

1088
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,560
podcast, a Google, Apple and Spotify drop us a review.

1089
01:01:45,560 --> 01:02:15,400
And as always, go bills.