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All right, and welcome back to the Buffalo bread podcast. We're intermittent this early

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end season. We're in the end of preseason. The Buffalo bills have resolved their 53 man

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roster for the moment. It's sure to change, you know, maybe one or two positions here.

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In the short term, they actually cut their long snapper Reid Ferguson, which is always

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expected because he specifically has his contract structured so that he can be signed back later

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so they can kind of sneak somebody on to IR. Something being has done over and over, but

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not really too many surprises. Also, we have a trade to talk about Dan. How are you feeling

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about this 53 man roster in general?

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Normally, I hate preseason predictions. I think the prediction business is silly. That

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being said, those of us that pay close attention to the bills pretty much expected that this

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would be the 53 man roster. So in an era where I think predictions are silly, I'm also going

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to hypocritically take credit because I basically call this 53 man roster and I'm feeling pretty

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good about that. Generally speaking, I was not surprised by the moves, but also heartened

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by a couple of them as well. And we'll get to this when we talk specifically, I think

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about the offensive line. We had been through the dregs that were Roger Seifold last year

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and David Quessenberry. And we hoped against hope that the bills would find an answer to

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not bring Quessenberry back this season. Lo and behold, it looks like they did. And what's

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more is they continued a really positive trend of getting younger and a little bit more athletic

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on that offensive line as well. So some heartening moves there. Now, if only Bean could draft

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better in the second round of drafts, JJ, I think we'd be okay. But I think we should

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start there. So before we dig too deep in the 53 man roster, to understand where things

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landed, it is best to look at it through the lens first of a trade that the Buffalo Bills

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orchestrated with Buffalo Bills, New Jersey, i.e. the New York Giants and former bills

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administrator, Joe Shane, who was part of the bills GM regime when they drafted one boogie

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bash him, who has now been traded to the New York Giants for basically what amounts to

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a swap of late round picks. I think the bills get something like a fifth round pick and

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they'll send a seventh round pick and boogie bash him to the Giants, something to that

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effect. I think it's a sixth. It's not a sixth. I think they improved from seven to

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six. Unreal. So JJ, here is here is I'm just going off the top of my head. So tell me if

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I'm wrong. Here is the second round draft history of Brandon being thus far. I want to say it

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was a Jones, then Cody Ford, then AJ Epineza, then boogie bash him. Right?

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Yep. That's your right so far. And I would say the Z is probably a McDermott. Because

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that was 17. That wasn't his draft class. It wasn't being strapped. It was true. It

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was a Whaley's draft class. Technically. And McDermott. Yeah. But McDermott was running

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that thing and him and Bean are like usually lockstep. James Cook and Osiris Torrance.

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Now high hopes for Cook and Torrance looks like he's going to start over baits. So Ben

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may be correct. Yes. Bean may be correcting it over recent history, we hope to get some

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of these young second round picks to produce. But bash him like Cody Ford traded while still

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in their rookie contract on second round. This has been a pain point, I think for the

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Buffalo Bills. And you could really even extend it into the third round if you wanted to go

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that far too. Jury's still out on Gabe Davis. But you've had what Terrell Bernard? You've

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had Dorian Williams who looks like he's going to get a spot on the roster. But who knows

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what position he's playing at the who knows, right? So these these day two picks have really

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not been favorable to Bean. Well, and who was the third rounder that they traded to

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the Colts who's probably off for the season the running back. Whose name I already forgot

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Zach Moss. Zach Moss. I can't believe you forgot Zach Moss.

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He was then forgettable. Like he was either injured or ineffective. Like he didn't do

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anything. JJ, he was going to be a bowling ball of

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knives was the description coming out of Bill's hand. Didn't he say coming out of the draft

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that you made people make business decisions? Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah. And the Bills

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did make a business decision to trade him. He's not worthy. Right. So I mean, listen,

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this is all this is all tongue in cheek. But when you have a quarterback of Josh Allen's

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contract value, but also franchise value, you need to hit the reality is on some of

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these draft picks on not just not just first round, but day two as well to sustain your

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roster. So on one hand, we like the Vandermark and we like the Alec Anderson move because

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it is a move away from what has been the MO of this team to go towards overpriced veterans

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to fill holes because they can no longer afford to do it. But they are not filling those holes

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with second, third and even fourth round picks. It's a lot of undrafted guys that granted

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they get a they have a really good eye for an ability to develop, but they're not hitting

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with some of the capital that they store up season after season in the draft as well.

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So they move on from these guys. I think Wyatt Teller granted Teller was a fifth round pick

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that ghost of him seems to loom over a lot of these decisions as well. So the decision

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to move on from Ford was one that I think that was overdue. The decision to move on

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from Basham, I think it could have been interchangeable. You could have traded Basham or you could

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have traded Epineza probably. My guess is being fielded offers for both. There was just

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a matter of what team gave him the better offer at this point. But regardless, they

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are waiting, it feels like to a point of no return where we see what these guys have,

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and they're unwilling to move on from them because they moved on from Wyatt Teller so

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quickly. So we suffer through what two seasons of Boogie Basham. And he may go down as the

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worst being draft pick, not not anything to do with his performance on the field, which

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I would say would be slightly below average and not total abomination. You would probably

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disagree, I'm sure. But it's it's because of what was still on the board in that 2020

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draft after we already had read someone pocket creed it probably the best interior linemen

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in the NFL with two to Super Bowl rings, walking for Patrick Moe and the Chiefs. It's

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just it's yeah. So so we move on from in the Boogie Basham era. And we see kind of like

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an uneasy shift in an MO from Bean on where he's going relative to getting more youth

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on this team. But it's like it's coming it's coming on the book ends, it's coming in first

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round picks. And again, hopefully, hopefully, Torrance and Cook change this. And then it's

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coming on like undrafted free agents and six and seventh round guys that they seem to develop.

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There is a lot of meat left on that bone in the middle rounds that Bean has not been able

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to exploit consistently in the draft. And moving on from Basham, I think dredges up

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a lot of that recent Bean draft history that has so much of Bill's mafia on edge. So listen,

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there are a lot of layers we can unpack with this. There's a lot of tea leaves we can read

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as a result of this. But first and foremost, what is your take JJ on this on the on this

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trade of Boogie Basham going to it some familiar some familiar friends over in New York?

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Well, I think the familiar friends piece is very important because I I don't know, I just

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have the sense after seeing what was returning. I do believe I don't have the song, you know,

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I'm not super confident, but I do believe the bills traded a seven and bash them for

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a sixth, which is just asinine to me for a second round. Yeah, for a second round pick

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in his third season, he still has still under rookie, two more years under rookie control

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this season and next. And it's just like it just feels like something that Joe Shane

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took took from, you know, from Brandon Bean, it feels like Brandon Bean lost. And I think,

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you know, all the people on Twitter or I'm sorry, X, who are calling for Brandon Bean's

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head. I think that they're kind of idiots, to be honest. I mean, I can, I can be critical

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of Brandon Bean's misses in the second and third round. We've just talked about it, we

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touched a lot of them. I can be critical of him, you know, failing on these on somebody's

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second day two picks and then having to trade them away and getting peanuts back. But I

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can still believe he has a knack for building a good roster. This is consistently for all

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the years that he's been in Buffalo, been an improving roster year to year, and also

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been a competitive roster year to year. And that's what's I think that's what's important.

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This off season alone looking at the interior off the offensive line, you know, Cyrus Torrance

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pick looks like it's going to hit, you know, he's very good. I've watched a lot of offensive

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line snaps, flailing Buffalo Bills guards for the past three seasons. And Osiris Torrance

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is not one of those. He can get beat a little bit on the inside with somebody with a little

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shift here and quicker. But if he gets his hands on anyone, they're done. And we talked

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about this when, you know, we first potted about their pickups, literally he touches

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somebody in the rep is mostly over, even if his body's out of position, he's got the

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giant, you know, meat cannons. So I think that there's a lot of meat and other on the

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ends of his arms and they they just stuff it. So but what I'm saying, what I'm getting

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at is I think it's fair to be critical. And I do think that they got, you know, Joe Sheen

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took them for all they were worth with this bachelor trade that does not. I don't think

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boogie batch him is good. I think he's a blast. He's probably a second or third stringer on

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most NFL rosters, but rosterable. I think that's his thing is he's a rotational defensive

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end who does a little bit of better work inside. He can make a splash play here or there, but

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he'll be on seven of his 10 reps every game on average. And so that's not somebody you

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want starting every game. And that I think is his NFL story based on just a couple of

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seasons we've seen him. But again, yeah, it's the things that they missed on to make these

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picks that are more frustrating. But I don't think it's I don't think it's enough to call

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Brandon being a bad GM. I think he's still top third in the league GMs in terms of evaluating

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talent, managing the roster, his contracts are some of the best in the league. It comes

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to keeping them cap strong and making sure that even though they're up against the cap

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ceiling every season, they have outs, they have restructure opportunities, they do a

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lot of things with things with option bonuses to make sure that they don't have huge balloon

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payments due to players that are past their prime. So I don't know. All over I think that

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it's okay. The bashing trade frustrates me because I do think that it's not enough of

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a return on that investment. But that also says all that you need to know about how this

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team feels about Boogie Batchel, that they weren't even interested, they either weren't

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interested in getting a better value out of that pick, or there literally was no one on

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the market. And that tells you something too is they were not going to take a you know,

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this offer, there were better offers. And I think a lot of teams were just sort of sitting

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on it saying no, let him hit waivers or you know, we don't care to invest any sort of

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asset in this player if he's available, sure, we might grab them. But if not, we're not

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trading for it. So it may have even been, you know, I still think that he's a better

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value than the bills got for him. But Joe Shane might have been doing Brandon being

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a favor, flipping late picks. Yeah, I was going to say that.

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Yeah, I was going to say if it didn't seem like the market for Baschum had really developed

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nor for Epinezza at this point, which tells you as you said everything each now, I listen,

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it being as a good GM, and I'm trying to mentally transport myself back to 2015 and 2016 is a

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Bill's fan, and just like bathe and how far we've come. But and I will forever be grateful

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to be an end McDermott for that. But they are the ones that have raised expectations.

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And at some point, they need to be held accountable to the standards that they have raised. And

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while the Baschum trade and the Ford trade taken as isolated incidents do not mean being

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as a bad GM, I it does paint the picture of someone who was frivolous during the early

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years of his elite QB is rookie contract, because he could afford to splash around some

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picks knowing that he had cap space to work with in order to sign up veterans to cover

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up holes that any of his draft picks potentially did not grow into. The Ford pick looks for

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the frivolous, the Epinezza pick, the Baschum pick, they all look somewhat frivolous, the

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Baschum pick in particular, because again, you were doubling down on a position you had

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already drafted for on the first round in Greg Rousseau. It looks wasteful to some extent.

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And as we know from what we have seen by the bar set in Kansas City when your QB inks that

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long term contract, the margin for error in the draft decreases to almost zero, fair or

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unfair. In playing with and I worry about being being able to operate successfully in

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a draft environment where you do need to be successful on more than 40% of your overall

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picks or whatever the success rate is, whatever the resign rate for the Buffalo Bills is in

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the Brandon B. Narrow, you need a higher rate of success. And what I have not seen is that

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change in philosophy and approaching the draft. Now, chicken for the egg, right? There's the

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draft piece and the scouting element, but then there's the develop development element

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as well. Where is it falling apart with some of these second and third round draft picks

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for the Buffalo Bills? Because Gabe Davis is in a contract here. And the bills pretty

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seem damned if they do damned if they don't in that regard. Because if he balls out, and

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he is finally the dude that they have been almost irrationally hyping him up to be, they

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can't afford to resign him. So he's going to go somewhere else for a massive payday

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and they're going to have gotten one good season out of a third round draft pick that

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they've tried to make their number two wide out for two years, you know what I mean? And

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then they're going to be back in the draft next year, where they've basically got to

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turn over most of their secondary large chunks of their defensive line because no one other

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than at Oliver who is a starter assigned beyond this year. And you're looking for wide receiver

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two. And Stefan Diggs is 30 years old, you know what I mean? Like, listen, this is a

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little bit sky is falling on my part. But this is why the draft is so important. And

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this is why as Bill's fans, I think it's fair to get frustrated with the amount of misses

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that we've seen in the bean era, be it on the scouting end or on the development end,

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because the the while the roster is deep, it is also exceptionally temporary with again,

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a most mostly a mix of guys that we have had on the roster before, and veteran signings

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that are basically trying out on one year contracts to ring chase with Allen. So will

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I care? Ultimately, if the bills win a Super Bowl this year, no, probably not. I'll be

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drunk into 2024 enjoying it for a year. We won't this podcast won't make any sense in

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2024, because we'll never do a sober episode, you know what I mean? If the bills win a Super

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Bowl. But is this team set up for long term success? I think after the past few drafts,

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that is questionable. Josh Allen is our window, sure. But the limitations of what we're able

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to put around him from a roster and salary cap standpoint, are only going to get worse,

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which makes the draft even more imperative. And I think it's fair to have our confidence

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weight confidence waiver a little bit, when it comes to the track record of being in McDermott

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and these recent drafts. Yeah, I think so. I mean, yes, I will say that that is it's

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reasonable because essentially you want, okay, two things, we've talked about this with draft

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strategy before, you want to hit out about a third of your draft picks as reasonable

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starters. It's more just statistics wise, it's more likely that those third are your

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top three picks and not your last four picks, right? Like, or, you know, picks, of course,

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more. But you're really your first and second rounders are the ones that you're looking

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to go about 30% of all of your draft picks should be reasonable starters with some backups

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and things like that. Think they've been hitting on that rate. But like you mentioned a couple

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minutes ago, they've been hitting on that rate with reasonable starters coming from

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late rounds and undrafted free agents. And I think that that's why they've they've had

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the kind of consistency I talked about being a competitor having some of the best rosters

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we've seen in 20 plus years of Bill's fan fandom. But I agree with you that that is never

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going to get you over the hump. And that's the part that we're so frustrated with as

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Bill's fans is we finally have a good team, but we have a good team that always falls

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shorts and the key motion falls short and the key moments and that almost always comes

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down to, you know, big players making big plays and big time, right? Like that, you

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need superstars for that, you need the shutdown, you know, court, you need to heal them to

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be a shutdown corner and get a critical interception while the chiefs are driving in the playoffs,

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you need Boogie Basham or Greg Rousseau or AJ Epineza to pull a strip sack fumble, right?

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Like critical time. But here we are waiting on, you know, 69 year old Von Miller to do

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that to blown knees. And so I agree with you that is that there's criticism that's deserved.

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I think that both things can live in the same reality, right? Like it can be true that they

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have missed on some of those superstar picks and that's hurting the team. And it can also

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be true that this team is the best constructed roster or most competitive we've seen in a

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long long.

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It's a it's a weird it's a weird it feels like contradiction to be living in because

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the draft history recently as we have have said has not been there yet this roster is

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sound and competitive and it's it is reasonably deep as well at certain positions, maybe not

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as deep as it has been in previous years. But I will tell you, man, if there was no

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salary cap, right? That's not like the bills would pay everybody $100 million. But if there

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was no salary cap, and Bean could just go scout all of these like scrap pile cut guys

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that he seems to like mine gold from, like he could make a living just on that. So like

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yeah, it is it's frustrating to live in both worlds where we have bought you could argue

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that we've had some math drafts over the past couple years. And yet we're still competitive

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because the same I've eyes for talent that seem to miss on these 20 21 and 22 year old

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players can find the 25 26 and 27 year old players that have some track records with

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the other teams. And maybe that's the key difference. Maybe it's the data, the the the

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comfortability of the data that the bills pull because when you're mining like the Diente

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Hardee's and the Trent Scherf fields and stuff like that, you have a set of pro data that

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you can go off of to better extrapolate and figure out how they're going to fit into your

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team. The college game has become more and more volatile, and it's become more harder

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and harder to gauge the success of where these players are going to be at. Trey Lance is

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case in point. Two years ago, the San Francisco 49ers and alleged QB whisperer Kyle Shanahan

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traded what three first round picks for this dude, and they just traded them away for a

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fourth. Because their seventh round, Mr. Relevant pick Brock Purdy has outplayed him, and Sam

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Darnold 28 2018 first round QB flame out has outplayed him to be the backup in San Francisco.

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It is volatile to project where some of these college players will ultimately land in the

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NFL. And it's fine if that's not your strong suit. And it really does feel like the bills

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and their current GM regime are just way more efficient and shrewd working off pro data,

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as opposed to the college data that they get to extrapolate some of these picks to.

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Yeah, I think that's absolutely true is that I think the pro scouting department is much

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stronger for the bills. I mean, and was even when, you know, Sean McDermott got Mike Ahide

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and Jordan Poir to come over as exactly second and third string depth safeties, respectively,

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he that will be easily drawn. Yeah, he brought a lot of players in at different times. Mitch

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Morris like that was a super smart signing now, because it probably was as critical for

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the development of Josh Allen as Brian Dabel was of having that steady center, you know,

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game in game out, especially setting protections and those sorts of things with the line like,

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I agree, I think that they're they're pro scouting department is top of the top, probably

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a plus, but their college starting scouting department is probably C C C plus, I think

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because they have, you know, I think it's weird, it's so weird for me because the the

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way that they draft and the way that they pick up undrafted free agents, they have this

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like amazing, it almost feels like Madden, right? It's like, this coaching staff has

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seven stars in defensive backscouting. But it is a half star in offensive interior alignment

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and goals, right? It's just deep and defense defense, right? Give me a break. Their weaknesses

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are these two positions and they're super strength. This is this like that's what it

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feels like because they have been so bad at evaluating talent, even with top picks in

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some of those critical positions, but have been incredible at digging out these gems

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from the bottom use of the roster heaps at the collegiate and pro level. And so I think

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that, you know, Christian Benford is about to start over Kyar, a six round pick from

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Villanova, no shade at Benford. He's awesome. Yeah. Against a first round super athletic

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like like speed demon and Kyar Elam coming from the University of Florida. That's case

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in point. Well, that's what that's what I mean is like I gave the Jordan poor and Micahide

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examples. Yeah. Taryn Johnson, a fifth round player out of Weber State is probably one

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of the top five nickels in the entire league that they they scooped up, right? Like the

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fungus that is Dane Jackson as well. That's what I'm saying like Dane Jackson and for

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him Levi Wallace undrafted out of Alabama was a starting cow is still a starting caliber

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cornerback in a zone scheme in the NFL and will be for it will probably have a long tenure

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career doing that because he's reliable. He's excellent at reading routes and he tends to

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not be too far away to recover to break up passes, even though he's super athletically

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overmatched at this level, like they just have this knack for finding really smart football

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players in the defense of backsealed, who can overcome physical, you know, limitations

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that keep them from other teams radars and play such technique sound football that they

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they get by like and it's the scheme probably it's the coaching it's the way they coach

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them up. Meanwhile, in the trenches, it's mostly a dumpster fire and hopefully this

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year it's not right like and I say that knowing that the Buffalo Bills have a top five scoring

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offense, knowing the Buffalo Bills have a top five defense every year and year out.

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But that's their biggest weakness and has been since you know, we've been basically doing

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Yeah, and you it's interesting that you bring up the statistics right top three defense

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top three offense last season, but it doesn't always pass the eye test and I get the eye

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test doesn't matter. It matters as the result of the game. But there were just so many stretches

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last year where it just looked really hard for the Bills. And it's in those moments where

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you really wish you had that like blue chip number two outside wide receiver opposite

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of digs that could break a game. And I think that that's the key separator like I'm not

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saying that every team that beats the Bills like hits on their number ones and hits on

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their number twos and they're stacked with some of this talent. But what they have done

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I would argue that the Bills have not done is find some of those first and second round

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separators that in key moments because games are games against good teams in the playoffs

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are about moments, right? It's not about the aggregate, the aggregate is the 17 games

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you played before in the regular season. The playoffs are a new season and it is moment

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to moment the aggregate no longer matters. And in those moments, other teams just seem

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to have guys that can rise to the occasion. And the Bills don't have some of those individual

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separators outside of digs and Allen on their roster. And that's where you feel the loss

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of it, right? So like a lot of this talent development that they're doing at the pro

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scrapheap level and the later rounds of the draft, like that's floor razors, where the

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Bills have failed, I think, to really develop any meaningful talent is on the ceiling razors

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at this point. Like we still don't have that. And I think that's a good transition to go

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into the 53 man analysis here, because I think there's a lot of floor razors and I think

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some really inspired moves on this 53 man. But this is largely the same roster as last

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year with the exception of a couple of free agent additions and Dalton can Cade. So the

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question that we have to ask ourselves is we know the floor is going to be high. We

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know the floor on this team is probably eight or nine wins, which is a wonderful rate for

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Bills fans that remember anything past 2014. That's amazing. But is the ceiling 13 games

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on this roster? I don't think so. I think the ceiling is probably 11. And that makes

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the AFC an AFC East repeat, probably very difficult, right? And that's, that's just

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what we're talking about now. We're not trying to be spoiled brats about it. This is the

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standard that we have now been taught to expect. And it's fair to analyze it from the standard

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that is coming out from one bills drive.

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Yeah, absolutely. And I think that you're right. I think the that is like one of the

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best ways that I've heard somebody summarize the problems with this good competitive roster

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is that the ceiling razor, right? Like, and that's kind of the point, the note I was trying

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to hit on when I mentioned that like, the bills have, you know, had solid competitive

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players, but they haven't had somebody who's like superstar outside of Josh Allen, Stefan

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Diggs, you know, and maybe the end of the list, right? Like, Matt Milano has occasional

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superstar moments, Tradevis White before his injury did, Mike Haydn, Jordan Boyer probably

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count there, but they're late enough in their career, I would not count them in that same

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stratosphere now, right? Like, if we don't see clean seasons from them, and either of

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them misses some substantial time due to injury, I think it is fair to say that they are now

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average starters, right? Like, they could do amazing things in small bursts, but it's

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not consistent like it used to be. So I agree, I think that's, that's probably the best way

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to describe the ceiling razors. And that's sad, because I think that they they need that

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we want that. That's the only thing that we want out of life. Like you said, we do a whole

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year of drunken pods. If they went a Super Bowl, probably.

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Seriously, I don't know if that party would ever end. But I will have to equip my job.

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I will say there are a few players on this 53 and we can go through it kind of position

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by position. That get me really excited for the season in terms of they might still be

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floor razors, but I think their floor is much higher than the predecessors that they've

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replaced on this roster. A couple, you know, I think James Cook has the potential to be

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one of the ceiling razors. He can do some very special things. One can only hope. Yeah.

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And in the preseason, especially when he was running between the tackles, I was a little

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bit underwhelmed. I was like, Oh, you know, like did not have that reliable vision and

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contact balance that we remember, you know, seeing all along with motor single Terry.

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But but I think that, you know, an exciting next step for James Cook and then Latavius

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Murray and Damian Harris, I think have a lot to offer. And I think that is a massive,

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massive upgrade from the Zach Moss and Devin single Terry backfields of the past few seasons.

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So those those guys are bowling balls with us. Yes, yes, those guys are exactly. They

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were like, you know what, we missed on Zach Moss. Let's let's just get two free agents

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that are both eight times better than him and will be 16 times better. Do you like math?

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So I do, I do like math. And I think it gives something that builds mafia has been asking

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for for a long time, which is the opportunity to not rely on Josh Allen's legs and shore

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yardage and goal line situations to keep him. And I know we've talked about this before

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quarterbacks don't get injured running the football. They get injured in the pocket,

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just like he has in his in his career. But I think that the less hits the better always.

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So that's that's one ceiling razor. And then I'll talk about one other well, I guess two

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other ceiling razors on the offensive side of the ball. And that is Dalton concave. And

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the pressure that we are putting on this dude to pause is unbelievable. I think he deserves

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it. We'll get back to Dalton in my predictions. But I think that he deserves that pressure

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because of what we've seen through training camp, what all of the, you know, Buffalo beat

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media people have said about his consistency in practice, his understanding and mastery

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of the offense, you know, pretty quickly for a rookie. He's never going to be, you know,

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the he's never going to be an Osiris Torrance meet cannon blocker, but he's been reasonable.

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He's been reasonable. But his skill at the catch point, his ability to kind of run incredible

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routes and feel soft spots in the defense, I'm very, very excited. And so he's a ceiling

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razor. And then the last one I'll talk about on offense is the sort of like the jumble

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of Connor McGovern, Osiris Torrance, David Edwards, Ryan Van Damar, Gallagher, Anderson,

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there's a lot of really good things in those four players who are very, who are very much

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younger than anybody that Bean has brought in the last few years to try to stabilize

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this line. And I really think, you know, I'm so worried about Spencer Brown. I think he

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might be terrible.

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He I mean, he looks terrible, even in the Chicago guy, he looked he looks bad. So I'm

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really worried about right tackle, but there's a lot you you can get by having one bad tackle.

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If you have two really good guards, an excellent son or in a left tackle, right, like you can

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literally shift protection and keep Dawson Knox in on Ryan are not Spencer Brown side

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every play. And who knows, maybe Ryan Bates, you know, with Osiris Torrance taking his

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job at right guard, maybe Ryan Bates is our new right tackle. It goes poorly. I also saw

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that the Buffalo Bills were hosting Germain at FETI. Oh, yeah, yeah. And he he's a tackle

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that I think he's a little bit, I'd say he's a little bit better than Brandon Shell in terms

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of his athleticism. And so that might be that may be a massive upgrade of if they're able

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to sign him to a kind of a reasonable veteran minimum deal. And there's also the chance,

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you know, out there on the waiver wire, young talent or a veteran somewhere. So I I'm not

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throwing the panic button on the offensive line, but right tackle is a problem. I think

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that they really did a great job of shoring up the interior, though, which was way more

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of a problem for Josh Allen last year.

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Yeah, I agree. Allen seems to manage pressure from the edge well. And we've talked about

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this for a couple of years now. If you want to get to some of these more mobile QBs, some

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of these guys that like to get out around the edge and run it, you got to put pressure

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up the middle the Kyler Murray is the Lamar Jackson's the Josh Allen's anyone that likes

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to get out and run when need be, they usually like to take up in those big gaps up the middle,

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you can close out those gaps, you really do take away a lot of their leverage in the improvise

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improvisational run game. So yeah, I for me, I paid particular attention here to a couple

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of areas running back was one of them. And I love the way this room has shaken out. Wide

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receiver as well. Now Justin shorter is likely to go on IR. He's dealing with a hamstring

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issue. He makes the 53 man now, but will likely go on IR, which means that the bills can then

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bring someone back off the waiver wire. And that's likely going to be camp favorite Andy

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Isabella at this point, which will be amazing for a lot of bills mafia that have rooted

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for Isabella all through camp to get his shot. I paid particular attention to JJ to what

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the bills were going to do in the backup QB market on offense, only because last year,

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last year was the first year really in our, our memory of Josh Allen being the dominant

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player that has become where he looked human got her in weeknight against the Jax, his

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UCL strain. We've talked about it ad nauseam. But I think for any team that loses their

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number one QB, the season is kind of hopeless. But the backup QB matters because you really

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want to have a guy in there who if they need to for three or four weeks can go out there

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and can basically pitch 500 ball, you know what I mean? Go two and two, go two and one,

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keep it close, keep the team in line until your QB one can get back. And Kyle Allen

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had not played particularly well in the preseason to the point where a lot of Buffalo writers

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like Joe Biscali, for example, who I respect and like from the athletic were positing that

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we were going to go out and get Kate bring case, Keenum back into the fold. And my take

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00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,720
in the bills is I think a lot of people know it. A lot of fans know we were in on trade

391
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:29,720
Lance as well. And that trade market for him too. Thank God we didn't go up give up anything

392
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:36,320
more than a fourth for him. I mean, total project, not not anyone that's going to immediately

393
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,560
help this team. But case Keenum, I was like, really, this, this is where we're going to

394
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go. Like I was hoping the bills would hang on to Kyle Allen, because I think his athletic

395
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:51,520
profile while no one is the alien that Josh Allen is, I thought his athletic profile fit

396
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:56,800
more of the scheme that Dorsey wanted to call than Keenum who at this point is stages basically

397
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,600
gonna take a four step drop and throw it. So there's an element of predictability to

398
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,240
a case Keenum in a known quantity level to case Keenum. I was like, why would we invest

399
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:12,120
resources in trading for that guy out of Houston? I think he's still their third string QB there.

400
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:21,400
So so I was happy to see Alan stay and then same with you. I liked overall. And I'm hedging

401
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,520
this by saying, I believe and we'll take it to my grave that the bills needed to bring

402
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,440
in someone that was legitimately going to challenge Spencer Brown, because I think they

403
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,400
now are feeling the pressure to find a veteran off the waiver wire to bring in and challenge

404
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,440
Spencer Brown. And I think they should have done it earlier. All that nonsense aside,

405
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,600
I liked that they walked away from a Quessin Berry. I like the fact that they walked away

406
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,840
from Ike Buck, Ike butger. And I like the fact that they're giving some of these. In

407
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,360
the case of Alec Anderson, I believe he was an undrafted free agent who they kept on the

408
00:36:54,360 --> 00:37:00,000
practice squad last year have developed another elevated to the 53 man roster. I like the

409
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,800
inflection of youth. I like the fact that he's got position versatility. I've seen him in

410
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,200
some mock depth charts is actually the primary backup to Mitch Morse because he can play

411
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,520
a little bit of center and Ryan Rick Bates being the primary backup to Spencer Brown.

412
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,840
So taking a shot and hitting on some of these younger guys as we have talked about is a

413
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:26,280
floor razor. And it allows a little bit more flexibility and a little bit more, more, I

414
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:31,080
think depth variability as well, depending on who gets hurt and when because it's a

415
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,280
long season. Inevitably someone's going to get hurt. I think the ability for the bills

416
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,480
to plug and play with a little bit more versatility here is something that I'm really happy to

417
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,160
see with Vandermark and Anderson as well. Other than that, there are really no surprises

418
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:49,840
on the offensive offensive 53 man for me. I'm just glad the bills finally decided to walk

419
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,800
away from some of their free agent mistakes of the past. Switching over to the defensive

420
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,680
side of the ball JJ. Anything here surprise you to any great extent?

421
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:05,640
Not, I mean, I guess I we already talked about the bashing trick that sort of surprised me

422
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:11,680
because seemingly he was having a decent camp and it usually would mean that the you know,

423
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,480
Brandon B and John Mcdair were going to let it ride with the draft of theirs, especially

424
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:21,520
a high draft pick. But they sent him away. So that was kind of a surprising thing. And

425
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,880
especially they didn't get much for him, which is also surprising. I mean, like disappointing,

426
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:32,120
he had a he had a good camp to he was he was looking pretty good looking like maybe he

427
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,480
was ready to be a serviceable serviceable rotational guy. But yeah, well, and I don't

428
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:44,800
think he's a Wyatt Teller. I think he's more a Zach Moss. But I worry I worry a little

429
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:50,240
bit because the cupboards a little bit bare on the edge in New York. And so he might be

430
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:55,680
the best defensive lineman they have. And that means that the occasional splash pay might

431
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,840
their splash play might come his way. And then everybody in Bill's office is going to blow

432
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:06,200
their, you know, minds because they think that bachelor's this undiscovered gem.

433
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:13,120
I just want to know if Shane has like blackmail on some of these GMs, because he traded for

434
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:19,400
Isaiah Simmons, I believe for a seventh round pick. Yeah, that was a that's a former first

435
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,800
round top 10. I think he went number eight overall that year to Arizona for a seventh

436
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,160
round pick. And he gets Boogie Basham, who like we said, was having a good camp for a

437
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:33,040
slight increase in draft position, not even actually giving anything away or so right.

438
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,920
Yeah. Right. I mean, basically swap of late round picks like, like, is Shane trailing

439
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,800
all these guys? Like, did him and Dan Snyder get together and like, does he have Dan Snyder's

440
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,560
PI? Is that what it is? Right? And he's got all this alleged dirt on I just I can't the

441
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,640
the deals that he's pulling are insane. I mean, good for Shane. Sorry, sorry for the

442
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,400
illusion of the Snyder. Too soon. It's okay. Yeah, no, that guy's a that guy's a tool.

443
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:03,280
That's horrible. Yeah. How he's gone. Yeah. Thank God that such a terrible person had had

444
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:10,440
the comeuppance of only selling his team for like the $200 billion profit. The I asked

445
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:16,640
you like that's the shittiest thing that doesn't matter. Right. Doesn't matter. Nothing matters.

446
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,800
He entered a billionaire, he'll leave even more of a billionaire for a extra billionaire

447
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:26,040
for it for incompetently, unethically and illegally, to some extent, running his team

448
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,440
into the ground, right? He'll leave with even more money. But good for Josh Harris, who

449
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,480
has the easiest job in the NFL this year is the new owner of the commanders. He just has

450
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,240
to not be Dan Snyder and people like him for the rest of his time in the league, no matter

451
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:45,080
how long he owns the team, all he has to do is not be a philander and crook like right.

452
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:51,960
And he'll be like, well respected person. So I'm getting anyways, get back to the roster.

453
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:58,040
Back to our wheelhouse. The Buffalo Bells. Exactly. Yeah. So I mean, no real big surprises.

454
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:03,800
I think that, you know, everything sort of shook out the way you expected it to be. I

455
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,880
think everyone expected Mike, a high Jordan Boyer Taylor wrapped in our Hamlin. Cam Lewis

456
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,560
was kind of a, you know, maybe, maybe in maybe out, but they've really liked him and he can

457
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:19,920
pinch hit and the nickel that's at times. And then, you know, middle linebacker, I was

458
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,320
hoping that, you know, they would somehow be like, Oh, by the way, this person made our

459
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,600
roster. This person you'd never heard of was capable starting middle linebacker, which

460
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,960
we still don't have one of. But I wondered about Christian Kirksey, who has been released

461
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:42,320
by the Texans, I think, and is a friend of Josh Allen's. So that that could be a player.

462
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:50,200
He, but I am started the two seasons and last year was the Tapa leader for the Texans. So

463
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,400
it could be a capable middle linebacker. But, um, but yeah, I mean, nothing too surprising.

464
00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:00,240
And in terms of like my projection for the season, the things that excite me about the

465
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:05,840
roster is I do think that Greg Russo looks a lot better. But I think he still requires

466
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:11,640
von Miller across from him in order to like really make a, uh, and so we'll see how that

467
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:18,400
goes. Leonard Floyd is definitely better than AJ Epinezzo, but still not to von Miller,

468
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:23,600
of course, level. So wonder how that goes. Kingsley Jonathan making the 53 was kind of

469
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:29,720
surprising to me. Um, but he he's by all accounts, has had a good camp. And then, you know, the

470
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:34,160
another player that I think is going to raise the floor, but not maybe necessarily the ceiling

471
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,080
is Pooner Ford and at DT. I've really liked that signing, you know, picking him up after

472
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:45,520
Seattle, let him go. Um, he's a, he is a literal bowling ball, not with knives, but

473
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,480
just a bowling ball in general. Human version of a bowling ball. Yes. And that's, that's

474
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,680
I think that's an addition. So not too much. How about you?

475
00:42:54,680 --> 00:43:01,240
No, yeah, I, um, you know, the only place in my preseason projection where I, I turned

476
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:06,440
out to be wrong was at the defensive tackle was a defensive tackle because I did not have

477
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,600
Jordan Phillips making the squad. And then it was edge. I didn't have Shaq Lawson on

478
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:17,760
the squad. I had Boogie Basham and Kingsley Jonathan actually. Um, but I didn't have Shaq

479
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:23,360
Lawson making the squad. So, but the bills value those two guys, they value their veteran

480
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,160
leadership, they value the leadership that they bring to the clubhouse and all that kind

481
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:32,080
of stuff. And they've been productive players in this scheme, very productive players for

482
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:39,400
the bills. So, so I think especially, I think Lawson is probably depending on how productivity

483
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,040
across the season shakes out. Think Lawson is probably first man out when Van Heller

484
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,040
comes off the pup list. But for the, for the time being, I've got no, no real issues with

485
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:56,240
it. And like we said, this is, this is an old defense. And I think it's worth repeating

486
00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:02,160
at this particular point. For a lot of these guys, it's going to be their, their last dance

487
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:08,080
with this team. Um, you wonder how much we have said, poyer and hide have left in the

488
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:14,120
tank. Trey White getting up there, Dane Jackson going to be closer to 30 than he is to 25

489
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:21,360
at this point. Um, it, Dequan Jones is going to be 33, 34 in season. Van Miller, we've

490
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:28,640
talked about, like it Jordan Phillips, Shaq Lawson, both aging veterans. And this is also

491
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:34,000
to a large extent, unlike the offense, offensive line in the tight end room and the, in the

492
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,000
wide receiver room, which underperformed last year. And as a result, got big makeovers

493
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:46,280
via the draft and via free agency. This is basically the same defense that got absolutely

494
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:51,840
shelled by Cincinnati at the end of the season. It's almost man for man, the same defense.

495
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,120
Yeah, absolutely. And then that got concerns about that. Yeah.

496
00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:01,480
That worries me. I think that they, they, the bills may, they, the bills being Sean McDermott

497
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,320
may have the belief that scheme is going to fix that, right? Like being more aggressive,

498
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:12,120
taking shots, you know, with Blitzes at different times, the old sugar of the A gap that I loved

499
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,280
when Sean McDermott first started coaching here that Leslie Frazier did not seem to

500
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,760
like as much. Um, stuff like that, I think we're going to see, especially if they, they

501
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,960
don't have a Tremade Edmonds leave him in the middle of the field as a chess piece player.

502
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,200
Yeah. And so they may need to be sending heat with their linebackers and have more exotic

503
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:38,560
linebacker schemes. And, uh, just to get production out of that position. And so I think that

504
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:43,600
that's the thought is, you know, we had a, again, like you said, top three finish in

505
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,040
terms of overall defense, terrible showing in the playoffs, but how much of that was

506
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:53,120
a motion this team went through the real ringer last year and sort of just ran out of gas,

507
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:59,440
it seems. Um, so we'll see, we'll see how things go. And but you're right. I mean, it's

508
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:06,120
an old defense. It's an old defense that has underperformed multiple years in big moments.

509
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,400
And that will be the ultimate test for Sean McDermott is if he's going to be the play

510
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:16,160
caller, uh, then, you know, show us what you got. Can you make this unit perform big in

511
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,000
big moments?

512
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,360
That's the variable because all of these pieces outside of admins are basically the same this

513
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:29,440
year. So that's the variable. It was his scheme and or was scheme. The issue is a talent.

514
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,320
Is it a mix of both this year? We're going to isolate that variable and we're going to

515
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,280
find out what it is. And then next year we've got to turn it all over because not a lot

516
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,600
of these guys will be coming back on veteran contracts next year. So, well, so interesting

517
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,600
overall.

518
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,320
And I'll say, I mean, this was a conversation for like February, March, but, um, uh, if

519
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:53,880
they can do the same kind of makeover on the defensive line, line, back for safeties that

520
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:59,920
they did this next off season and 24 that they did to the offensive line, wide receivers

521
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:04,160
and tight end, like you mentioned, I think that they can kind of keep rolling because

522
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,880
those units look way different and much better.

523
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,360
You know what they need to do in order to make that happen. Hit on some first, second

524
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,760
and third round draft.

525
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:19,080
Every second and third. Seriously, that's what they need to do. And being to his credit

526
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,400
got a boatload of draft capital on this year's draft at the end of last year's draft. Um,

527
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:29,960
I think we're walking in with like 10 picks, 10 or a lot. Yeah. In a draft that is going

528
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:37,120
to be demonstrably deeper than the draft class we just saw come up. So I said, I said this

529
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:42,480
around the draft draft time. They know their weaknesses in the second and third round. Just

530
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,240
use late round extra picks and their second and third rounders and trade to get seven

531
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:49,280
picks between rounds four and six.

532
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:55,800
Seriously, they'll hit on all of them. I mean, they will. They will at 100% rate, 100% success

533
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,320
rate. Again and again, they can get meaningful and upper echelon starters in the fourth and

534
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,560
fifth round. Amazing. Just do that.

535
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,720
Amazing. All right. I want to talk a little bit about, uh, let's see. Do we want to talk

536
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:13,360
about the rest of the AFC East and China? Here's what I'm thinking real quick. All

537
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,880
right. Because we've already been talking for close to an hour and we want to get to

538
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,520
some prediction sure to go wrong because we both hate predictions, but we do a podcast

539
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,440
so we need to make them right. We love making them. We hate that they exist. We love making

540
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:32,600
them. We do. Exactly. Exactly. We hate them, but we love them. Right. Um, so here's what

541
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:41,120
I want to pitch to you. All right. Let's do rankings one through four of where we think

542
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:49,280
each of these teams will finish in terms of overall defense, overall offense. Okay. Then

543
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:54,040
we can predict who we think is going to win the division and then that'll launch us into

544
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,320
the rest of our prediction. Sure to go wrong for this season. How do you feel about that?

545
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,320
Yeah, I like it. Yeah.

546
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:04,240
All right. So all right, let's start with defensive unit units first. Now on paper,

547
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:11,680
all four of these teams look pretty loaded. Okay. I'm going to give you in ascending order

548
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,440
for being the worst one being the best. I'm going to go four through one and tell you

549
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,880
where I think these defensive units in the division are going to sit. I've got the bills

550
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:28,080
at number four. Oh, and it's solely because of the age factor. Okay. I've got the dolphins

551
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:33,160
at number three because I think they're talented, but I think it's going to take them a few

552
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:39,040
games to pick up on Vic Fangio's scheme. And if you look at the statistics and the splits

553
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:44,520
from back when it was a 16 game sample, first eight games versus last eight games for the

554
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:50,400
first year of a team and Fangio system, the first eight are always a rocky start and they

555
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:56,000
become really proficient in the latter half of the season. I think that given the difficult

556
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,880
level of difficulty of some of Miami schedule, I think by the time things shake out, this

557
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,200
is still probably going to be a top 10 unit overall, but I would put them at third most

558
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:11,880
proficient here in the division. Number two, I'm going to go with the New England Patriots.

559
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,800
I think they've got a mighty pass rush. I think that secondary is always well coached

560
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:23,040
and with Christian Gonzalez, they have a ceiling razor that they can output on the outside

561
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,040
next to the brothers not related Jones that they're going to be rolling out there as well

562
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:33,280
on the secondary. I think what they've done at the safety position as well with Duggar

563
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:41,200
who we laud, right? And then the drafting of Keon White and Tupé, Marte Tupé.

564
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,240
Marte Tupé, yeah, the linebacker. They just have a bunch of tweeners where it's going

565
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:51,160
to be the Amoeba defense of all time. And other than Matt Judon and Christian Baramore,

566
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,840
you're really not going to know where the pressure is coming from. You're not going

567
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,280
to know who's going to be dropping, who's going to be rushing. I think they're going

568
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,120
to, I don't know that they make the playoffs and we'll talk about this when we get to offense

569
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:06,160
and overall, but I think the games they win are going to be like 17-14. This is a team

570
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,560
that's probably going to win pretty ugly this year, right?

571
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,160
For sure. And then number one, I've got the Jets defense, though I think that is a team

572
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:19,480
with considerable flaws. I think Sauce Gardner, while good, is tremendously overrated. And

573
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:25,400
if any referee worth their salt decides to call a pass interference on Sauce, it'll

574
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:30,960
be the first time. That dude just, I see all these highlight videos of how great of a shutdown

575
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,520
corner Sauce Gardner is and all I see him as grabbing guys' jerseys and pants, that's

576
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,720
all I see, right? I'm not saying the dude doesn't have talent, but I'm saying for the

577
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:45,640
love of God, like if I could grab guys like that, I could be a shutdown corner too, right?

578
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:52,200
Bull. But listen, man. Listen. All right, listen. I mean, and if I lost 180 pounds,

579
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,280
and if I could run a 4-3, all right, and if I was four inches tall, all right.

580
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,040
A couple of variables. It's fun. It's fun. There's other variables, right? And if I

581
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:05,240
just worked on my hand strength, right? There's a lot of things. Same. We all have flaws.

582
00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:08,000
We all have things to work on. We all have flaws. We all have flaws. You too could be

583
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:15,600
an elite athlete if you dropped 200. Oh, yeah, I could. Absolutely. Yeah. But anyway, I would

584
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:22,240
only be 80 pounds at that point if I lost 200 pounds. That's late. Yeah, it'd be a third

585
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:28,480
grader. Anyway, but the secondary is good. I'm worried about that defense up the middle

586
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:33,040
though. And when you, I think if there is a reason they won't finish number one, it's

587
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:37,520
going to be because teams are going to exploit them up the middle. Tuo likes to play the

588
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,440
middle of the field. He really like exclusively likes to play the middle of the field. We

589
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,000
know the bills are trying to get the middle of the field back as well. New England has

590
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:51,040
a bunch of guys that can run fast on the outside, but no one that can really catch a pass on

591
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:56,120
the outside. So is a byproduct of having a Seckie and Hunter Henry probably is their

592
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:01,840
primary weapons and juju Smith Schuster, who is a big middle of the field target eater,

593
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,480
they're going to go after the middle of the field too. I think the Jets defensive line

594
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:12,760
depth is absolutely insane. I think that group can go seven or eight deep and not lose any

595
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,160
efficacy as a result of that. They've got studs on the defensive line. I think that's

596
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:22,160
going to be the great equalizer. All of these defenses have weaknesses, but I think the

597
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:28,800
Jets to me rise to the top because of the depth on the outside with sauce and reader.

598
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,320
And despite the weaknesses up the middle, I think that defensive line is going to cover

599
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,520
is going to be the deodorant on a lot of a lot of that. Oh yeah. Yeah. So what do you

600
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:44,120
think JJ? So I would agree with your ratings with a couple of exceptions. I would actually

601
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:50,880
bring the bills up and put the Patriots down a little bit. I think I think it's okay. If

602
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:57,760
I go in a descending order, is that a sending order? First, I think is Jets second bills,

603
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:03,720
third Patriots and fourth dolphins. Think those are head of the Patriots. And I think

604
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:09,320
it's probably and here's the reason this is going to be weird. This is going to sound

605
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,320
like I don't know what I'm talking about, but that's okay. That's the whole podcast.

606
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,960
We don't know what we're talking about. That is the purpose of the. Yeah, that's right.

607
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:24,800
So think that the Patriots in efficiency on offense hurts their defense. I think that

608
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,920
their offensive woes are going to put their defense in some really tough spots that even

609
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,960
the talent and I agree with you on a lot of that. I think the Patriots are going to play

610
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,840
the first ever defense that we've seen in the NFL with seven safeties on the field at

611
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,400
one time, but we'll, you know, seven safety slash linebackers who are positionless players

612
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,720
like that might happen slash water boys like they just, yeah, who knows, right? They're

613
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:52,560
going to have the first human cyborg, you know, safety play on the field. But they,

614
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,600
so, so, but that, that being said, I think that because they don't have, because they're

615
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,600
an unbalanced team, I think they're going to struggle a little bit and that's going

616
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:06,120
to put their defense in tough spots. So that's why I'd flip the bills up a little bit higher.

617
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,480
I agree with you. I think the dolphins, everyone's like looking at the situation and like, oh,

618
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,840
thick, Fangio is going to fix everything that and I think he can fix a lot of things. He's

619
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:21,520
an excellent DC, but it takes time and it takes time when he doesn't have the thing

620
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:26,240
I think that the problem with the dolphins defense has been in the past is that when

621
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:33,160
I think about that defense, I cannot identify any player that's like a Micahide, a Jordan

622
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:40,000
poyer for the bills, you know, terminated bins like somebody who like really knows the

623
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,800
whole thing in and out and gets everyone in the right position because the games we've

624
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:49,080
seen the dolphins in the captain. Yeah, who's the one running the ship that's not, you know,

625
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,720
it's on the field. The green dot. Yeah, who's the green dot? And I'm sure they have someone

626
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:58,480
who's going to call plays, but is that person capable of fixing covering up when players

627
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:04,480
are not performing or executing? Because the things we've seen is when the dolphins defense

628
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,440
starts to get beaten, they're not playing it, Ed, or they're not beating up on the other

629
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:14,240
team that they fall apart in terms of their unit, right? Like a lot of those players are

630
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:20,080
the same. There's finger pointing, they like, clearly look like they are not disciplined

631
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:26,480
and maybe Fangio can fix some of that. But I also think in a new scheme that those personalities

632
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,600
might erupt that might be a little bit more, more of a problem.

633
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,520
Yeah, I agree. Neither of us are really high on the doll as high as national media is on

634
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:40,400
dolphins defense. We could very well be wrong. Yeah. Fangio is a great coordinator, but also

635
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,600
it's a complex scheme. And it's listen, it's a scheme that just got roasted by Patrick

636
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:51,880
Mahomes in the Super Bowl. Yes. So that was the bills have seen the Fangio defense or

637
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,720
a version of it in practice for the last four years with Leslie Frazier, and they've seen

638
00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:01,440
it every time they play an opposing defense with the too high coverage. I mean, too high

639
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,880
zone that that's what Fangio is going to roll out. I get there's going to be some wrinkles

640
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,400
and all that other kind of stuff. I'm not trying to undersell the complexity of this

641
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:17,320
but it takes a while to catch on. And I think teams have been spending the last two and

642
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:23,000
a half seasons figuring out how to adapt to this particular brand of defense. And I think

643
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,880
we're going to see some adjustments baked in to counteract this defense.

644
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,800
Yeah, so I'd flip it around. I'd actually bring the bills up and beat.

645
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,560
Why the bills so high? So I'm just curious, right?

646
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:39,040
So I think that the yeah, I have an answer. Go ahead. I think that we both are worried

647
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,120
about the middle linebacker position, but I actually think they're going to play more

648
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:47,920
cover three and bring one of their safeties down and have their corners play, especially

649
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:53,240
if it's Benford or Dane Jackson and Trey, they're going to have corners play deep third

650
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:58,880
and cover the sidelines and have a single high safety and then bring a safety down in

651
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,320
the box to help with that middle linebacker weakness. And I do think that that is a better

652
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:09,480
defense against the dolphins. I'll see twice. That's that is a better defense against the

653
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:14,760
jets with our Rogers. It's I don't know how much of a better defense it is against the

654
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,600
Patriots. I think the Patriots will have an offensive scheme that could attack that a little

655
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,200
better than the other. They're going to run the ball. Yeah, exactly. They have a better

656
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:26,840
defensive attack. And so the bills defensive line will really have to step up. But the

657
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:32,320
past first offense of the jets and dolphins could see could struggle a little bit more

658
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,480
with the three, you know, three high shell. So that I mean, that's that's what I'm thinking

659
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:46,200
about the bills defense is that I think it's in the same way that NGOs defense has disadvantages

660
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:53,600
by the complexity and difficulty early on, the bills defense has advantages by the lack

661
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:59,720
of understanding and knowledge of current OCs playing against the Sean McDermott call

662
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:05,760
play, right? Like they've seen they know how to beat or they don't because they didn't

663
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:11,000
right like the bills won 13 games last year. Like they they did not overcome Leslie Frazier's

664
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:16,960
defensive calls. And so that's still there. But I there are other wrinkles and things

665
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,720
like that that I think Sean McDermott will bring to the fold. And like we said, this

666
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:25,360
is the same defense, they know the defense that he and Leslie Frazier built, whatever

667
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,720
wrinkles they have, that's the twist. And that's probably they're probably quicker to get

668
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:34,600
to there than Fangio's D. Yeah, that's fair enough. I worry about a couple of things.

669
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:43,200
I worry about the relative age and key positions. And I mean, listen, Von Miller missed five

670
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:48,720
games last year and still ended the season tied for team lead in sacks with eight. So

671
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:54,120
unless Rousseau, which by all accounts, scouts around the league, if you're if you're reading

672
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,920
a lot of national headlines, they think Rousseau is ready to take the next step and ready to

673
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:04,240
hit double jaded sacks this year. But if Rousseau doesn't, and they don't get a lot out of Floyd,

674
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,040
this is all hinging the pass rush efficacy is all hinging on 34 year old Von Miller

675
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:17,920
coming back from ACL and week six. Yeah. Right. So I have real questions about this pass rush.

676
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:22,480
Now here's the good news. And this is a great transition, I think to talk about the offensive

677
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:27,600
side of the ball. None of the teams the bills will be playing in division have a good offensive

678
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:32,640
line. Yeah, I know. Like no, like we said it last year, and I think it still holds true.

679
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:37,480
I don't know for offensive, for offensive units in the same division, they're rolling out

680
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:43,640
worse offensive lines than these four teams are. I mean, so let's get to our rankings

681
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:48,120
because we're going to shred all of these offensive lines, I'm pretty sure. So I went

682
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:53,440
first with D. Do you want to go first with offense? Sure. Yeah. So in terms of often,

683
01:00:53,440 --> 01:01:01,200
of offensive efficacy, I think it's going to roll out from last from last place in the

684
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:07,280
division to first. The Patriots have already mentioned bottom bottom. I mean, the fact

685
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:12,800
that they cut Bailey Zappie was probably cutting their best quarterback. Mac Jones is a fool.

686
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:19,000
They emptied their QB room for Mac Jones. Crazy. Mac, you're you're it. You're our milk toast

687
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:26,600
loser. So Mac Jones and the Patriots last. And then I actually think it's going to be

688
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:34,320
the dolphins because I know, well, because I think that they they did not invest in offensive

689
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:40,880
line depth or quality. And to is literally made of paper mache. It's and that's not

690
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:46,280
to like say he's not a strong capable individual. It's to say he had two concussions and probably

691
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:51,680
three concussions over the course of the season. And they get more frequent and more terrible

692
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:56,400
the more you have them. So I'm really worried about his overall health forever. Right. And

693
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:02,160
so I think that definitely, you know, I can see him missing three or four or five games

694
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:07,280
half a season. And that could be a real problem for the dolphins because I don't think they

695
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:12,920
have the capable backups to run that offense. And so I think to end the dolphins and third

696
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:19,600
and then the jets in second place and overall offensive efficacy and performance. And again,

697
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,200
like air Rogers new to the new to the team, they have some some superstar talent. But

698
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:29,680
I think that their offense looked much different and much weaker. And it wasn't just that they

699
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,680
didn't have a capable passer once Breeze Hall was out of the fold, and he's coming back from

700
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:39,400
a severe knee injury. And so his ability to kind of take off. We saw it with Trey White.

701
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,360
I mean, he didn't come back till full year after his injury and didn't look this, you

702
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:49,600
know, the same. Now, thankfully is looking more that more the part like old Trey. But

703
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:56,240
those positions that require like very sharp cuts and thirst, the knee injury isn't is not

704
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:01,400
great. Coming back from that from the ACL. So we'll see. I think that there's also some

705
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:06,520
growing pains that the jets are going to see with with Aaron Rogers and getting used to

706
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,880
the offense. But you know, I think there's going to be second best in the league. And

707
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,280
then first, the Buffalo Bills. I think that they have the capacity to be the best offense

708
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,280
again,

709
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,600
rookie of the year Dalton concave. I know you're going. Yeah, I mean, we'll get the

710
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,640
I mentioned I've teased twice now that we'll get there with my prediction. So I got a prediction

711
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:28,360
about the nice very cool. All right. So here's my list. I'll start with number one because

712
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,600
the same as your number one, I do think the bills will have the best offense in the division.

713
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,000
I don't think it's going to be easy. But I think it's going to look a lot easier than

714
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,280
it did last year. That's no shade against the defenses that are going to be going up

715
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:44,240
against in the division. And it's a brutal schedule for them to be playing as well this

716
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:50,160
season. If they don't get out get out to a hot start, things could get dicey real quick.

717
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:54,840
But I love what they did with the wide receiver room. They're protecting for the most part

718
01:03:54,840 --> 01:04:00,160
Josh Allen and all the right places as far as the interior of the offensive line. This

719
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:06,880
all hinges on Dawkins going back to like average play as opposed to what he was at last year.

720
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:12,760
And I assume that Ryan Bates will be starting for Spencer Brown by week two after they see

721
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:18,760
how atrocious he is defending defending against the New York Jets past rush. But I think overall

722
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:25,280
the bills have the pieces in place with the added wrinkle of Dalton Kincaid and the hopeful

723
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:31,600
emergence of James Cook to bring some balance. But also I think a little bit of counter punch

724
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:36,480
ability in the check down game and in the run game to that team as well. And hopefully

725
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:42,320
some big playability to right. All of those things I think the bills are going to be sitting

726
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:47,920
at number one. Number two, the New England Patriots.

727
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:56,080
Whoa, that is so spicy. What are you doing? Make it make sense.

728
01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:02,720
So you've already kind of like you. So you've already kind of talked about it. Like all

729
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:08,960
of these defenses are going to be gaming to stop the pass. And the way that Belichick

730
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:17,800
has built this offense with Henry Giseke in juju Smith's Schuster. Essentially, Giseke

731
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:23,240
is a wide receiver Smith Schuster more like a tight end. He's got these variables and

732
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:29,040
this ability to go multiple and under the in this Callahan offense on a variety of different

733
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,840
occasions. And when you look at the formations that they have rolled out in the preseason,

734
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:39,120
not the actual personnel in the formations, but the formations themselves, they they are

735
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:44,040
playing a lot more three wide receiver sets, which is right in Mac Jones comfort zone.

736
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,240
We know that that team is going to be able to run the ball as well. Do I think they're

737
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:53,400
going to hang 30 on everybody a game? No, I don't think that is going to be the case.

738
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,880
But I think this offense is going to be surprising at its level of success and efficiency. And

739
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:02,000
I think I think they're I think they're going to do better than a lot of people think. Number

740
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:06,800
three. No, hang on. Can I just say one thing about the Baydreads offense? They they are

741
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:14,520
bringing they put six six offensive tackles on their 53 man roster, six of the spots on

742
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:19,960
their 53 man roster are just for the tackle position on offense. So like I that offensive

743
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:25,120
line is bad. It's bad. But what I'm saying, though, is like, clearly, I'm agreeing with

744
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,280
you. I think I'm not agreeing with you. I think they'll be good. I think it'll be terrible.

745
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:33,920
I'm agreeing with you that they're going to try to run the ball quite a lot. And they're

746
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,080
going to face a lot. They're going to face cover three from the bills. They're going

747
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:42,600
to face too high shell, which is from Miami, which is a scheme that is begging to be run

748
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:47,000
against. And I don't give a shit what people say about sauce Gardner. He's still has a

749
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:53,040
lot of room to grow and run defense. Same thing with DJ reader. These are teams vulnerable

750
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:58,320
to a Belichick scheme. I'm just saying. But that's fine. But what what what does it matter

751
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,640
when you only have four possessions because you take nine minutes off the clock every

752
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:09,520
time you have the ball and you lose 21 to 14? Listen, I'm willing to make the suburban

753
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:14,640
bet with you. I'm willing to make the suburban bet. Okay, we can do it. We can do it by DVO

754
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:19,200
way if you want to. Yeah, because that seems to be a pretty objective measure, right?

755
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,960
Like let's I'm going to type that in my notes. There's a bourbon. So McCorkles for season.

756
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:30,640
This was a this was a top nine unit and offensive DVO way, right? So I'm just saying, I think

757
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:37,400
I like I think I think Callahan's a floor raiser. I think unlike last season, there

758
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:44,880
is some intentionality to the way this offense has been built. And I think Callahan being

759
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:51,600
able to write the map Patricia ship, I don't think we understand or ever will how bad the

760
01:07:51,600 --> 01:08:01,320
map Patricia experiment was. Yeah, and I do. I mean, it was terrible. And I don't think

761
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:07,240
I I I don't think the Patriots will have a hard time scaling that low bar. But I also

762
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:12,920
think people will be shocked at the at how the quality of coaching can also raise the

763
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:18,840
ceiling on that particular unit. If that unit is just average, if they finish top 12 or

764
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:24,240
top 15 DVO way, that that's going to be a team that's going to be a team that's probably

765
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:28,960
contending for the playoffs with that defense. Okay. I know I mean, this is a fun bourbon

766
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:34,360
bourbon. The way I wrote it is that you you're writing that in the AFC East alone, the Patriots

767
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,000
are going to be number two overall in offensive BBO way.

768
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:43,000
So so relative in the division, right? So if like, yeah, so if like the bills are third

769
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:48,040
in the leg, right? But the Patriots are 15th. Yeah, but everybody is below them. They're

770
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,920
still second. Exactly. That's exactly the way I understand it as well. I'm betting that

771
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:59,200
the Patriots are going to be fourth in the AFC East relative to everybody. And both of

772
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:04,400
either of those conditions hit the person who bet them gets the bourbon. But if they're

773
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:12,320
third in the AFC or first, we don't it's a push. Exactly. If they're first, what wins

774
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:18,640
who wins with the hell of a no one wins. It's hell on earth if they're first. Okay. Third,

775
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:25,960
I've got the Miami Dolphins. The offensive line is absolutely atrocious. And Miami approached

776
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:31,000
the soft season, I think with a certain level of arrogance that we are not acknowledging.

777
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:36,000
In season, it wasn't just the defensive side of the ball that didn't make any adjustments

778
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,520
in the face of injury. It was the offensive side of the ball as well. And we all love

779
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:44,880
McDaniel. We think he's like the coolest freaking dude to put on a headset as a head coach in

780
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:50,720
a very long time in the NFL. Dude is just personality wise, a breath of fresh air. But

781
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:56,040
he was a first year play caller. And we don't know what his what his baseline for adjustment

782
01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:00,640
is going to be. We didn't see any meaningful adjustments in season. And everything about

783
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:05,600
these roster moves from the lack of investment in the offensive line. I think I saw in their

784
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:11,040
53 man they're carrying five running backs at this point. Like and they might be in for

785
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:15,200
Jonathan Taylor as well. Yeah. Like this is a team who's like, we're just going to be

786
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:19,520
faster than you. And I think the counter to that we've already seen from the Chargers

787
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:25,920
and the 49ers is we're going to be more physical and stronger than you. And until I see McDaniel

788
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:31,680
able to do that and that offensive line be able to keep to up right for 17 games in a

789
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:37,960
season. I have questions about the Miami offense and the depth that wide receiver is problematic

790
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:43,720
to Jalen Waddle is a dude who has been hurt before and doesn't deal with press man well.

791
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:48,320
They've got Tyree kill, but then it's Christian Berrios is their number three. Braxton.

792
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:53,080
Braxton. Sorry. Yeah. What I said Christian. Yeah. Braxton. So this is a team that has

793
01:10:53,080 --> 01:11:00,440
depth issues in the wide receiver room, injury issues in the QB room, talent issues on the

794
01:11:00,440 --> 01:11:05,200
offensive line. And the only meaningful thing they did in the offseason was they got faster

795
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:09,520
in the running back room. Like I well, and they have some point you just cannot run everybody.

796
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:14,120
They have five running backs and a full back. So the running back room is six individuals.

797
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,360
Like what are they going to do? Like what are they going to do with all that? You know

798
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:21,320
what I mean? And then and then what you know, I think that this brings into question like

799
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:26,120
why we talked about them being, you know, possibly bottom of the barrel and defense is

800
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:33,480
that with three, three quarterbacks on their 53 man roster, five running backs and a full

801
01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:39,040
back there, like they're stealing from somewhere and that somewhere as their defense. And yeah,

802
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:43,840
I think it's they only have two tight ends and their Durham smith and Julian Hill, whoever

803
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:49,480
that is. So I mean, and again, that was a notable, notable flaw with this team last

804
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:53,720
year and they shrug their shoulders. I did nothing, right? Did nothing to address it.

805
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,600
So unless they're going to run five running backs out there that can catch the football

806
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:03,600
on a regular basis in the passing game. I don't know. I think we're I think the good

807
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:10,840
will McDaniels built up is earned. But if you put Bella check on this team as the head

808
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:15,840
coach, and it was Bella check after a season where their QB didn't get three where their

809
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:20,880
QB got three concussions and they didn't improve the offensive line and they didn't improve

810
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:25,400
the wide receiver depth after Tyree kill had those hamstring issues at the end of the season,

811
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:30,880
you would call him arrogant to I think McDaniel is playing on some well earned good will.

812
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:36,000
But I think it was any other coach that GM that approached their offensive unit with

813
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:42,000
that type of complacency. I think we'd have stronger questions, you know, so yeah.

814
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,640
And in no time at all, you know, Mike McDaniel is going to be back to selling Pokemon cards

815
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:50,920
out of his parents' basement. So I love this dude. Like if Dorsey doesn't

816
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:54,240
work out, can he please come as our offensive coordinator? I love this. I could see that

817
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:59,120
being cool. Yeah, no, I watch them be good. This is why it's frustrating that I think

818
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:04,560
he's younger than us and is like at that level. That's some smarter and more likable and

819
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:10,120
more successful and weirder and weirder but in a cool way. Yeah. Yeah. That guy, he's

820
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:14,920
an awesome. Got that magnificent bastard. I hate him. He's so beautiful. Right. And

821
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:20,680
then and then forth I got the Jets. That's a bad offensive line. Again, what where's

822
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:27,840
the wide receiver depth on that squad? They've got Gary Wilson and no one else. Aaron Rogers

823
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:33,440
still thinks he's Aaron Rogers of 2009 where he can sit back in the pocket and chuck it

824
01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:38,680
deep to Jordy Nelson or Randall Cobb or somebody and those guys just don't exist. And that

825
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:43,360
offensive line is not going to buy him that kind of time. And I question Hackett as a

826
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:49,960
coordinator and a coach. And I also just don't think Sala is the guy that's going to gel

827
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:54,760
and solidify a lot of these new faces in the coaching room and on the roster as well. I

828
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:59,520
think Sala is probably on the hot seat this year for a lot of reasons. I think this Jets

829
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,920
offense is going to be slow to get going. Got to watch them smoke the bills. Yeah. Oh,

830
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:07,040
God, I'm worried about that. But I think this I think this offense is going to be slow to

831
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:11,680
get going. And I think it's going to have some really tough starts and stops because

832
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:16,680
the identity of the offense is whatever whatever Aaron Rogers thinks he can do. And Aaron Rogers

833
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:21,360
still thinks he can chuck it deep downfield at 39 years old and hold on to the ball for

834
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:25,760
three and a half seconds and he just can't do it anymore. Well, in OTAs and training,

835
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:31,040
I mean, he was he sat out like multiple OTA and training camp practices for random like

836
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:36,760
maladies that happen to any 39 year old right like Tweet, Dankle, Twisted Knee, Ouch. Slep

837
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:41,880
funny on my arm. Yeah, my back's a little weird today. Like so those are things to worry

838
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:46,160
about that I think that if you're the dolphins or the Jets, you're probably a little bit

839
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:51,480
concerned at least about those things. And I agree that the offensive line is kind of

840
01:14:51,480 --> 01:14:57,880
terrible and the wide receiver room is Garrett Wilson and then all of the, you know, Packers

841
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:04,160
retreads. And then and then to your point, Sean Payton called like what Nathaniel Hackett

842
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:10,440
like the worst coaching job he's ever seen. The job he did in Denver as the worst coach

843
01:15:10,440 --> 01:15:15,080
coach he's ever seen in the National Football League. And this is the guy you're entrusting

844
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:23,120
your incredibly expensive, incredibly old, you know, quarterback to. So yeah, I'm wondering

845
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:28,320
about that too. I'm glad the bills have them early. You know, first game is a good time

846
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:32,880
to have a team that's got a new quarterback, new scheme, you know, so we'll see. But I

847
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:36,320
do think they have some talent and I'm not going to disagree with you and putting them

848
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:42,160
fourth place in the offense. I just, I mean, two times or three, how many times is Aaron

849
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:48,240
Rogers VP? Dude, three times. He won two back to back. Yeah. Yeah. And one another one earlier

850
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:54,040
in his career. I want to say. Yeah, I think you're right. He finds a way to win and he

851
01:15:54,040 --> 01:16:01,640
had almost no receiving talent his entire career. So if that guy Garrett Wilson and maybe

852
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:07,440
maybe that's the key that unlocks another MVP for him, but we'll see. Yeah. So maybe I

853
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:12,640
don't want to write them off. That's why I had a much higher. But I mean, I think that

854
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:17,520
both of our realities could exist. We could split the dimensions and both get these things

855
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:22,680
right. We could it's the season of McCorkle. That's what it's going to be. That's I love

856
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,800
that you had them so high. All right. It's amazing. That's amazing. It's amazing. It

857
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:31,120
really is. So would you want to never do these drunk? Yeah, let's go ahead and do predictions.

858
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:39,840
All right, dude, it's midweek. Come on. Listen, it's two weeks. All right. So I'll I'll go

859
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:46,360
first and I'll hit I'll hit the the Kade one because I've been talking about it all pod.

860
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:53,480
Just do it. Dalton Kincaid breaks all Buffalo tight end rookie records. And before, you

861
01:16:53,480 --> 01:16:58,960
know, the record stops like scratch. It's really not that hard people. It's incredibly

862
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:04,160
easy. Do you want to guess what any of these numbers are? I don't know. I just want you

863
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:09,400
to roll with it. All right. So the the okay, how about this? You're a Bill's fan of some

864
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:17,240
some tenure. Correct. Can you name who you believe the Buffalo Bill's all time rookie

865
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:24,480
tight end in terms of record, you know, receiving stats for the for their rookie year is. It's

866
01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:29,600
not it's not Knox that would be too easy. Is it Reemersma? No, that's a great that's

867
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:36,240
a great guess because I think Reemersma is probably the best Buffalo Bells tight end.

868
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:41,120
Probably probably yeah. Reemersma. So no, it's not J. Reemersma. He's I think he's like

869
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:51,840
fourth or fifth. It's Ernie Warwick. Ernie Warwick in 1962. Look at that is the best

870
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:56,200
Buffalo Bill's tight end in terms of rookie stats, rookie year stats. So his first year

871
01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:03,440
was 1962. I think he only played four years. But he received 600 yards and four, four touchdowns

872
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:10,640
to not even 35 receptions, 35. That's the most receptions by a rookie tight end ever in Bill's

873
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:19,440
history. 35 receptions for 482 yards and two touchdowns. Dude. That's it. Yes. Can K.

874
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:25,200
K. is going to cross that bar, I think, pretty easily. I mean, I think I don't think it's

875
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:29,520
complete. I know everyone's like, oh, rookie tight ends never have a huge blow up. Like

876
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,800
it's always a hard, slow developing. But not a tight. He's not a tight end now. Yeah.

877
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:40,240
But this and on top of that, he's a slot. He's a thick slot. And so and on top of that,

878
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:44,800
this bar is so low. Like I think it's not unreasonable to think that Dalton Kincaid

879
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:52,600
could have 3840 receptions for like 520 yards and three TDs. Oh my God, he's got it. He's

880
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:58,080
done them all. He's swept the record book. Like that's so sad. But I think it's possible.

881
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:03,400
And that's my that's my first prediction. Sure to go wrong. Dawson Knox is actually second

882
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:09,680
in tight end rookie seasons with 28388 and two TDs. The two TVs is crazy to me. Like

883
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,840
I feel like that's almost I should put money on that. But Dalton Kincaid will have greater

884
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:18,640
than or equal to three touchdowns this year. Nice. You actually should. I mean, that's

885
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:22,600
a that's a pretty good futures, but you could probably get some decent odds on for sure.

886
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:27,960
Sure. There. Can I can I just say through the course of this podcast, there are there

887
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:33,000
have been two phrases that you have used that I think we should consider consider putting

888
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:38,600
towards a rebrand of this pod. Oh, no. Sugar the egg app, which is an amazing pod name.

889
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:46,040
Yeah, it is. It is a really thick slot. Fixed. See, between renamed either of those, we're

890
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,440
going to get a clientele coming to the door that we do not want.

891
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:56,440
It is all about raw listenership when you're starting out, JJ. And I would also like just

892
01:19:56,440 --> 01:20:03,080
be in heaven to hear you say welcome to fix. This week's pod. This week's pod. We sugar

893
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:12,600
your egg app. All right, Jesus Christ. It must be late. All right. So here here is.

894
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:17,280
Here's my prediction. At Oliver will lead the team in sex. No, just kidding. That was

895
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:22,160
my prediction last year. Yeah. And that went wrong. That went so wrong. I'm actually going

896
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:27,200
to play it relatively safe this year. I think and this is more of a hopeful projection.

897
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:33,120
Greg Russo 10 and a half sacks this season. Oh my God. And I wish you could see my screen.

898
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:39,440
My number one prediction is Greg Russo individual sax 10 or more. Yeah. Yeah. No, I would put

899
01:20:39,440 --> 01:20:44,760
the over under a 10 and a half and I would be tempted to take the over not just because

900
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:49,160
people that know more about the game think that his game has progressed to this level

901
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:54,720
and that he should rise to that. But man, we really need him to if we can get 10 and

902
01:20:54,720 --> 01:21:00,080
a half out of him Leonard Floyd who I think is accumulated 30 plus sacks over his past

903
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:05,640
three seasons and you get some semblance of an effective von Miller back. If you're talking

904
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:13,040
that three headed kind of Hydra ends up netting you 31 32 sacks. That's a great baseline to

905
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:18,560
start your season on. And then anything else that Oliver from the interior or Epinezla

906
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:23,040
can bring in rotational snaps or Kingsley can bring. It's just gravy if you can get those

907
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:27,220
three guys cooking. But to me, it's got to start with Russo Russo and Floyd really need

908
01:21:27,220 --> 01:21:33,400
to hold it down till Miller gets back and Russo because of the the pressure of being

909
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,880
a number one draft pick and really needing to ascend at this point. I want to see him

910
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:44,320
do it. So I've got Greg Russo over 10 and a half sacks this season. I like it. All right,

911
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:51,720
for my next one, Gabe Davis leads the team in reception TDs. Interesting at the end

912
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:57,640
very doable. Very doable too, I think. Yeah. And I think that's kind of a that's a that's

913
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:04,240
a saucy one because I know it probably going to be Stefan Diggs. It was last year. But

914
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:09,900
Gabe Davis just has a knack for finding me on zone even if he's not anywhere near Stefan

915
01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:16,560
Diggs yardage. I think he leads the team in reception. Yeah. And that prices him out of

916
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:21,840
free agent market the bills could afford. Exactly. Big play Gabe, right? I mean, he's

917
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:26,760
he's still a deep threat. Like if you you want Gabe and fantasy, you got to like plan

918
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:32,220
on the three game stretch where he's going to go 330 and no TDs only to get that Boomer

919
01:22:32,220 --> 01:22:40,320
bust game where he goes 29.2 game, like three for 129 and two TDs, you know, exactly. I

920
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:45,820
could see that happening because to be the leader in team TD receptions, that would say

921
01:22:45,820 --> 01:22:52,040
that his game has gotten at least more consistent. So the Buffalo Bills need that to happen

922
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:58,280
to take some pressure off of Diggs for sure. I think it's a bold one too because not that

923
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,760
I think in Kate is going to take not that I think in Kate is going to leave the team

924
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:08,040
and TD receptions. But I think between concade, Hardy and Hardy and Scherfield, there are

925
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:14,240
just more guys that are going to split snap share and split target share with Davis as

926
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:20,640
opposed to Diggs. Diggs would still be my leader in the clubhouse. But if Davis is indeed

927
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:24,040
leading in that statistical category, it's a good season for the bills, I think for a

928
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:32,160
lot of different reasons. Yeah. What's your next? All right. James Cook over under 11

929
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:38,800
and a half total TDs and I'm taking the over over. So and again, I think they're going

930
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:43,560
to need it not just for balance, not just for better efficacy in the red zone to let

931
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,480
that cook break a 15 yard run every now and then they're going to need cooking the past

932
01:23:47,480 --> 01:23:52,120
game as well. And I'm so frustrated listening to national media being like, well, if Allen

933
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:57,560
would just be willing to take the check down, Allen has been willing to take the check down.

934
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:02,480
The problem is he's checking it down to Zach Moss and Devin Singletary who turn and burn

935
01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:07,800
like they're stuck in the mud, right? James Cook has a little bit of pedal to that metal.

936
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:12,400
And I think he will absolutely be not just a viable check down option, but a viable yacht

937
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:17,840
option for this team. So I think between rushing and the reason why this one is saucy is because

938
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:23,400
you've got Latavius Murray and Damian Harris who are going to eat up red zone touches without

939
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:28,840
a doubt, right? They're going to be a red zone monsters. So for Cook to get to over an

940
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:33,600
11 and a half, he's got to be a factor in the short yardage passing game. And he's also

941
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:39,360
got to be the home run hitter that we think his talent tells us that he can be so embedding

942
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:44,000
big that Cook is really going to take a massive step in the past and breakaway run game in

943
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,000
year two.

944
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:49,880
Well, and I think that, you know, when you said turn and burn, all I could think of is

945
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:57,120
a description I heard a sportscaster say of a defensive lineman, he said he turns and

946
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:02,000
turns because that's really what I think of when I think of Devin Singletary and Zach

947
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:08,680
Moss. Neither of them was about to like explode out of like that catch point and burn everybody

948
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:13,920
for 60 yards. So they just turn and insurance. Awesome. Love it. Love it. All right. What's

949
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:22,400
your third and final third and final is that the bills chiefs game in I guess it's in November.

950
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:27,320
It's late in the season. It's like a third or fourth or fifth from the end. I think the

951
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:31,640
bills chiefs game at the end of the season decides the number one seed in the AFC.

952
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:36,640
Hmm. Interesting. So you don't think Cincinnati, LA, Baltimore are going to be a factor in

953
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:37,640
that conversation?

954
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:43,080
No, I think that at that point in time and certainly there might be a shuffling at the

955
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:48,680
top happening near the end. But I think that if you were to look back the schedule and

956
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,800
like how it all plays out that game is the decider because I think they're going to be

957
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:57,720
so close in their records that, you know, that, you know, that's the tiebreaker.

958
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:05,080
Yeah. I've got a harder time with that only because of the difficulty level of the bills.

959
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:10,680
So yeah, I'll schedule this year. Like I've got listen, I've got the bills capping out

960
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:17,000
at 11 wins this year. Still still challenged still winning the division, right? Oh, yeah,

961
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:23,920
we forgot to do our one through four division rankings. I've got I've got bills, Patriots,

962
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:28,680
Dolphins jets in that order. Don't know when lost records. I'm just saying finish in that

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order. All four could make the playoffs. We could be looking at a three and three split

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for all of these teams in the division because of just how muddled it is. But I've got the

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bills. I got the bills ceiling at 11 wins this season because of the age of the defense,

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the injury history on the team and the strength relative strength of schedule. Yeah.

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For for my end of the season, if he is to I got the bills, the jets, the dolphins, then

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the Patriots, I'm always going to be a kick and dirt on the Patriots. Always kick and

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dirt on the Patriots without a doubt. Yeah, it would be a hell of a year if I finish second.

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I'm telling you, man, this is exact. This is what Belichick wants. Belichick wants us

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to count him out. He wants us to count him out. Toast, right? And then all of a sudden

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he pulls a rabbit out of his hat, makes Mac Jones a serviceable QB again. My final overall

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prediction for this season is going back to the offensive side of the ball. And I've

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got this is similar to your Gabe Davis thing. Stefan Diggs and Gabe Davis partnering to

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have a thousand yard seasons this year. Oh, both of them have them. Both of them having

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a thousand yard season. Yeah. So Diggs feels like money in the bank. And I've talked about

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I talked about Snapshare and Target Share and all this other kind of stuff. The way

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Davis I feel like is going to be nestled into this particular offensive scheme, he's going

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to get a lot of chunk yardage plays. And again, when you look at formation, so that the bills

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are running out there, Davis played a fair amount of slot and cam and you see him eating up

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targets in the middle of the field. I think the bills are going to use them in some pretty

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unique ways. I think they understand the limitations of just running him out on the boundary time,

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after time, after time, they're going to figure out ways to get him freed up this year. And

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I think it was a really, really good season. Well, and that's part of why I think that

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he's going to lead the team in receiving TDs is because I do think that Dalton Cankade

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is going to break all the rookie tight end records. And I think that Diggs is always

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going to be dependable as an outlet for Josh Allen as he has been. And that I think creates

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a situation where Gabe Davis has way more of a capacity to eat than he has seen in any

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of his seasons in the league in that it's just digs, Cankade, Dawson Knox, James Cook

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underneath. Like there's more things to worry about for defenses. And so I think that they

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can't give as much attention to Davis and he might be the person that's forgotten for

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a good portion of the season. Yeah, I agree. No one's talking about them in this off season

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like they were after that four TD game in Kansas City. So the hype train is left and

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hopefully now not being in the spotlight, Davis can do some of his best and most surprising

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work. So so yeah, and the bills could use that for short. They absolutely could. All

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right. This has been the thick slot podcast. Thank you for listening. This has been sugar

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the egg gap with your girls slide Dan and slippery J. Jesus Christ. All right. Yeah,

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we really need to cut this off. All right. For those of you for whatever reason are still

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