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Welcome to the Louisiana Delta Crop Podcast covering

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agriculture and all things related in West Carroll,

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Morehouse, East Carroll, Madison, Tensough, Concordia,

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and Catahoula parishes. Hello, everyone. Thanks

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for listening, because I think this is our first

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podcast this year, maybe? Well, the new year,

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yeah. It's been a minute. It's the new year.

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Here we are in the end of February. Yeah. Well,

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January is pretty wild for us, but now that I

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guess all those mandatory meetings are slowing

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down. We can get started back on our regular

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schedule program. But anyway, thanks for listening.

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And my name is Kylan Miller and I've got, we're

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in Winnsboro. We just finished up a fun little

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training, I guess. I'm gonna say, we'll be polite.

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We'll be polite. It's a day long training. I'm

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Bruce Hall, everybody recognizes me. Yeah, we've

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been here since. early morning doing our day

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-long training and we decided we'd go ahead and

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throw together a quick podcast. Sun's shining

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today. I know guys what today is February 25th.

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I know some guys are probably chomping at the

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bit today to put corn in the ground. It's still

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wet everywhere. I mean soil temperatures are

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hovering in the 40s. So, you know, guys just

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give it a little bit more time. That's what I've

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just been telling folks, just wait. That little

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chance of rain at the end of the week, many have

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been thinking about it. It's warming up. We'll

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see ground temperatures coming up, I think, starting

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this week. We're supposed to be in the 60s and

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70s. Sunshine, that's good conducive drying,

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good ground warming, but we're still looking

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at real chilly. Ground temperatures, I think

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statewide, in the northeast part of the state,

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I did check some soil temperatures first part

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of the week, and they were in the upper 30s.

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So, you know, grain of salt, we're getting there.

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It'll be here before we know. Yeah, and with

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everybody getting rolling, like I said, I'm joking,

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I've seen a lot of them. planters backed up to

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the front doors of shops. Oh yeah, we're working

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on them. And getting bushings and bearings and

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grease and everything ready to go. I guess we're

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getting close, but still not quite. You know,

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in the years past, we got to the 25th of February,

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there was a lot of cold weather. Valentine's

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Day is what Neil will always talk about. I think

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he planted one year, no, or somebody was planting

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one year around that time. I think that was up

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by a year actually. We had some guys that went.

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Early, yeah, it was Valentine's Day a little

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bit after, and then on March the third, we had

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23 degrees that morning. It just, it burned it

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back to the ground. A lot of that corn had to

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be replanted. That's a whole lot of discussion.

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Shelly's not with us today. She's at a conference

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that she can discuss. She can talk about the

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challenges of planting that early corn with cool

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temperatures. It's easier for me to sit back

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and say, don't do it and wait. But I know when

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you got to get over a lot of ground, sometimes

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it's hard not to go. Talk about meetings for

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a second. We've got a lot of meetings that have

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taken place. I'll mention pesticide recertification.

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Guys, if you're looking at your card, you haven't

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been to a pesticide recertification meeting yet.

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And your card says that it expires March 31st,

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2025. We've got to get you any contact, your

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local extension office. We'll try to find you

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a meeting somewhere in the state. I know here

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in the northeast part of the state, we're probably,

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I don't know if I'm saying probably, but I don't

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know for sure. We're going to try to have a meeting,

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kind of a wrap -up meeting sometime in March.

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Don't bet the farm on that. If you can find a

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meeting that we can get you to and get you certified

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before it expires, let us know. We'll try to

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find a meeting for you to get to. Most of ours,

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we've already had ours. I shoot for the first

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week of February, I think. Me and you are always

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the same, yep. We shoot the same time. Other

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agents, we're in that mid -February. So we're

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kind of past them right now, but I promise you,

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we can find them even if you need to be certified.

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And I don't mind hosting another one, because

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I think there's in our area a fair amount that

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haven't gotten it. And I certainly don't mind

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hosting another one, but... I don't want to do

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it if you're not going to show up. Right. Because

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it's a lot. It's a lot for us to try to get put

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together. So yeah, if you need help trying to

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get a meeting, give your local extension agent

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a call, give me a call, get Tyler a call, whoever

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where the parish you're in, I'm always glad to

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try to find you. We can find anyone somewhere.

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It may be in Calcasieu Parish, and you may have

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to go out and eat crawfish for lunch one day,

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but anyway. So what else we got Kyle down on

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as far as meeting goes? I see. Well, first off,

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too, I want to remind everybody if you need WPS

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training for your guys, to reach out to us. I

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know, I don't know how you do yours, Bruce, but

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typically if someone needs WPS training, they

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can either come to my office and we can knock

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it out in 30, 40 minutes, or I can go to the

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farm, or if you and your buddies want to get

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together and y 'all meet up and shop, you know,

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a neighbor or whatever. I've done that too and

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I can train like 10 or so guys at a time. Just

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however is convenient for y 'all because I know

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you are busy and I'm willing to work with y 'all.

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I do it the exact same way. If you've got guys

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that we catch a rain morning and need them to

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give me a call, a lot of times I can try to do

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them that day. Just like you if you need me to

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come out to the farm, I'll be glad to come out.

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All I need is a So yeah, if you need WPS, please

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reach out. If you're here in the college area,

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reach out to us. If you're one of the other areas

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of the state, reach out to your local kind of

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agent and he can get you set up to get trained.

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That's real important. I mean, that's one of

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the things that when LDAF comes in and does a

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check, one of the first things they're going

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to ask you for is that piece of paperwork. And

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they are asking. They are asking. I'm gonna ask

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you for that piece of paper where your guys have

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had WPS training. And it's an easy thing. It's

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free. It doesn't cost anybody anything. Don't

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let it be a big deal. We can take care of that

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for y 'all real quick. All right, the next thing

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is we have a regional rice growers meeting at

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the Delhi Civic Center on March the 5th. And

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that's gonna start at 9 to go to 1230. If you

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need more information on that, you can contact

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Nate Jennings. He is in the Richland Parish office,

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or one of us who can get you a flyer. There's

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a beef and forage youth field day coming up on

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March 19th, and that's gonna be here at the Scott

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Center. If anybody is interested in that, that's

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gonna be, I think, from 10 to one. I think they're

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doing a sign -up list, like they have a total

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or something that they mentioned today. Either

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way, if you're interested in that, Also reach

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out to us. And that's pretty much all the other

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events that we can kind of get to our, I guess,

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what we're here to talk about. We've got one

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meeting coming up that's going to be the first

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part of May. And that is the, I'll let our guest

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talk about that. And I'm going to use his official

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title. He's Dr. Luke Stamper. Yay! For me and

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Kylie, he's Luke and... I think he started about

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the same time. They were the same time, yeah.

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So it's cool to have a co -worker that has gone

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on and done better things. But Luke is the new

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wildlife specialist for the state, not just the

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Northeast region. So for us, it's just a cool

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time to sit down and catch up with a co -worker,

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but wanting to bring him on and kind of talk

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about his programming and kind of talk about

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how he got where he's got, type of thing. So,

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Lou, welcome. Glad you're here today. Yeah. Thank

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you, Bruce. I appreciate you having me. I guess

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I am a little glutton for punishment there, I

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suppose. So, you're all correct. We, you know,

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I've been working or employed by the AgCenter

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for many years now and kind of chipped away at,

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you know, some extra education there. And as

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luck would have it, I guess we've wrapped that

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up. And here recently I've taken on a new position

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here within the AgCenter. as the statewide extension

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wildlife specialist. Now, my appointment will

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be primarily extension. So I'll have heavy -handed

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and extension programming around the state. Fortunately,

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I will still be housed here in the Northeast

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region, which don't hold it against me, but I

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would have to say this is the... the greatest

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region in the state when it comes to wildlife

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management. We have some serious wildlife managers.

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This is the Delta portion of our state. From

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an economic standpoint, from a sustainability

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standpoint, we have a lot of wildlife opportunity,

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I'll say, here in the region. So a good place

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to be housed out of. We want to get across the

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entirety of the state and offer some programming

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and give everybody an opportunity to learn and

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be maybe better educated. You know, it's a, you

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touched on it. I mean, almost every farmer or

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landowner that I know has some sort of wildlife

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enterprise, be it duck lines, be it CRP ground

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or timberland that they either lease out or make

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arrangements for the folks to come on property

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and hunt. I had a guy I tell him years ago out

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in the Little Missouri area, talking about hunting

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duck hunting. And he made the comment to me,

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he said, you know, he said he used to lease out

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the duck blinds and that was just extra little

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laying out. And he said, but now this is like,

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this has been 20 years ago. He said, now that

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duck lease is part of the farm population, that

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they took that money. And I said, this has been

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20 years, so I imagine now it's even a bigger

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part of what these guys are, it works into the

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budget. Of course, when you're looking at $10

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,000 to $1 ,000 for a bottle of duck wine, $8

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,000 to $10 ,000 for a bottle of duck wine, that's

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going to be real money. They invite me to come

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up with it. I wish I could say I still duck up

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like I used to. It's amazing. My first daughter

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was born, and I stopped playing golf. And when

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my second daughter was born, I stopped duck hunting.

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I still fish though, so I didn't even a third

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of them. That's right. I don't say that economic

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phrase loosely there. A lot of people may think

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of Wildlife Mansion maybe as a byproduct of something,

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but there's a lot of people that depend on this,

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whether it's from a recreational standpoint or

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from a business standpoint, but there's a lot

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of dollars that go into this. It's us as Accenture

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employees and Extension personnel, it's our duty

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to... put forth these best management practices

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so that stakeholders can make their best decisions,

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because it does. Especially in this day and age,

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it can get rather expensive, and you definitely

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don't want to be backtracking. You want to be

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making progression. Well, yeah. I'll say that

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after this one, but I think about Jeff Simmons

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and Baxter. Jeff's a cattleman. Jeff runs a bunch

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of cows across northeast Louisiana, but he also

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has a big sporting install. And sometimes I wondered

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which one supports which. With the price of cattle

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right now, I wonder if Jeff isn't supporting

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the store offer of cattle prices. I don't know,

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I was in there during Christmastime and it was

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standing room always. You bought a cow, I'll

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tell you why. Yeah, they just take old Will and

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they keep him. I just learned a long time, but

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sometimes you just don't try to justify the cost

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of walking and sporting goods store, especially

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one that has good stuff. We talked about the

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economic side of it, from a programmatic side

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of it. I mean, I hate to bring this up, but chronic

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wasting disease, that seems to be something that

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is everybody's, if they're deer -huntered now,

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seems to be something we're talking about, at

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least in North Louisiana. What do we see? What

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are your views there? What can we do and not

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do or do differently? Yeah, well, you know, that's

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a real open -ended question there with that particular

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disease and where we're going. I will approach

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it from this viewpoint. You know, we are in the

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epicenter of the state where we first had our

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first positive out of Tensile Parish. We're not

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far from there. But I can say that my phone rang

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off the hook after that because some of the regulation

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that is involved with that particular disease

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limits some of our landowners in the way that

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they conduct business. So habitat was one of

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the first things that I got lots of calls on.

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So speaking from that standpoint, landowners

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are wondering, what can I do differently? We're

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in a quarantine zone or maybe we're on the outskirts

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and we want to start being more proactive towards

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this to have maybe a sounder herd health going

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on and just trying to make the best decisions

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that are put forth by our ... our state wildlife

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agency. So one of those things, it comes back

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to, you know, just being a land manager, you

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know, creating, you know. things that are important

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to a white -tailed deer herd that takes place

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on somebody's property. So, you know, speaking

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from that standpoint, that's what I really got

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a lot of questions on. That's why people are

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kind of rethinking the way that they're doing

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things when they're hunting properties. That's

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kind of where we start. But, you know, that's

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a proactive disease on what we're going and we're

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kind of managing it day by day and kind of following,

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you know, what our state agencies is putting

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forth. Michelle, you touched on it right there.

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It's a year -round management mindset. Yeah.

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herd health, but it's playing that food plot

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that's going to provide the nutritional needs

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for that white -tailed deer during the year when

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he needs it to keep the animal healthy and possibly

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not have them clump up around a central site.

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needs with that disease, it's what we talk about

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distribution. So one thing that landowners can

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do is try to create a more even distribution.

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That's very difficult to do. We're talking about

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a social group of animals and a white -tailed

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deer. But where I was going with that is we even

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have landowners that I'm working with outside

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of some of these regulatory areas that are looking

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down the road and saying, hey, what if we get

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a positive or what if this thing kind of moves

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one way or the other, what can we be doing right

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now to be And then bringing it right back home

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to this northeast part of the state. especially

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in a Delta, we deal with some really high deer

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densities. So a lot of landowners are looking

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at that. They're trying to maybe increase their

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antlerless harvest on their properties. They're

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trying to bring overall population numbers back

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within carrying capacity or where they should

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be. And these are all things that we can be doing,

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be thinking about and just try to maintain the

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best we can and look at it from that standpoint.

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Well, I think that's the thing that we're going

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to at least Because I'm the same way. I get phone

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calls and I'm guilty because sometimes I'll say,

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look, we need to call Luke. Because I mean, a

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lot of the questions that they're asking are

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walking up to that regulatory line. They're willing

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to know, hey, what can I do? And I don't want

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to tell somebody. I mean, I talk to you. I get

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information from you and I say, look, I've told

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folks, look, it's a whole lot easier when you've

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seen Luke. Because Luke is going to be the guy

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that's been sitting in the meetings that have

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been there talking about it. So, you know, I

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encourage everybody to definitely keep your ears

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open, read everything that comes down the pipe

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because I don't think anybody can tell anybody

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what the future is when it comes to managing

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this disease. We're talking to, you know, tomorrow

00:17:01.460 --> 00:17:04.519
we're talking to Will Strickland about poultry,

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specifically about avian flu. So, and that's

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a whole other... That's a whole other thing to

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think about when you start thinking about duck

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populations. Absolutely. You said it best there.

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I mean, education is always a great need to combat

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some of these issues. And trying to bring that

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back around to our extension programming needs

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and efforts. I always try to have somebody on

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at least an annual basis at some of these meetings,

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especially here in this region where the first

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detection was found. We try to get... updates

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often, you know, what are the best management

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practices? You know, who do we call in some of

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these situations and issues? You know, what are

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we doing going forward? So, you know, checking

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us out, looking at the meetings, being in attendance,

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like you said, doing as much reading as you can,

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and we try to put information out there that's

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going to keep our clientele up to date. Yeah,

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I think this may be our fourth or fifth year

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doing this now. It's a very well -received meeting.

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It goes back to that wildlife overlapping with

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so many different disciplines. We can find it.

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So you really get a wide general audience that's

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interested in some of these topics. But we kind

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of rotate that around the region and we may be

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rotating that around the state some more now.

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But this year is going to be held at the Northeast

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Research Station. We're going to have it sometime

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in the first two weeks of May. We haven't nailed

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that date. down but as soon as I do here in the

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next just few days I'll let you guys know and

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maybe you can at a later date you can you can

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solidify that but we'll have multiple speakers

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multiple topics we'll have some indoors and then

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we'll have a field day component too or we can

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take folks out and you know how like the Northeast

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Research Station for even from an agronomy standpoint

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but you know look at these different wildlife

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topics too. The diseases, and I guess the third

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one I'll bring up that I guess could be a scourge

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or disease is feral hogs. Yeah, absolutely. I

00:19:12.809 --> 00:19:15.750
have a guy, a colleague, I'm talking about being

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around a long time, being old before we started

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recording. About 10 years ago, 15 years ago now,

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a US Wildlife and Fisheries agent. He made a

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presentation and he said, there's two kinds of

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landowners in Louisiana when it comes to feral

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hogs. I mean, what is he talking about? He said,

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those have got hogs now, and those are gonna

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have hogs. And that was 15 years ago, and I wish

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I could say that has not proved to be true, but

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it tends to prove them to be true. Feral hog

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population still is growing. Especially, that

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affects a lot of things. It affects row crop,

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it affects agriculture, but it affects turkey

00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:03.640
hunters. It affects anybody that's trying to

00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:07.099
establish a quail covey, any kind of ground nesting

00:20:07.099 --> 00:20:10.900
birds, any kind of ground burrowing animals.

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Anything that would tear up a raccoon or armadillo.

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I mean, that's pretty tough. Or just the landowner

00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:20.099
in general. I mean, they mess up. I mean, they

00:20:20.099 --> 00:20:26.000
just tear up everything. I know that the educational

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efforts there are just ongoing, always. But can't

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we just hunt them out? You know, no. I wish that

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was the answer. That was the comment I got when

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we did that meeting. What was that two years

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ago with with what he came up to talk about the

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bait? Yeah, Glenn can talk about that and The

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you know, there's a lot of people for it, but

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I was shocked There was just as many people against

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it because of the honey like that We like to

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hunt and we want to you know, I don't think you

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can kill the number of hogs that you need to

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kill The way they reproduce the way the hogs

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reproduce is, for lack of a better word, just

00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:16.079
like rabbits. But that's what Dr. Gentry was

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talking about, was that they did some work down

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in South Louisiana, one of the wildlife management

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areas, where they did a hunting, an intensive

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hunting, one island, one marsh, and a marsh.

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And at the end of the, I think, I want to say

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at the end of the... at the end of the period,

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I think the population is going up. It's a job

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though. So we farm and it's a lot to work all

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day, hunt all night. You can't keep up with what's

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going on day and night. Well, if you use a plot

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this or look at this in comparison to other wildlife

00:21:57.369 --> 00:21:59.930
species, I mean, it's what we call an exponential

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growth curve. So you're not seeing that on a

00:22:02.670 --> 00:22:05.269
linear progression or anything like that. So

00:22:05.269 --> 00:22:08.250
it's very difficult to get out ahead of the recruitment

00:22:08.250 --> 00:22:11.670
rate that they can have. They are adapted for

00:22:11.670 --> 00:22:13.809
some of this environment. They are able to breed

00:22:13.809 --> 00:22:17.609
almost year round once they become reproductive.

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So it does begin to get very... difficult to

00:22:20.910 --> 00:22:22.690
stay out ahead of them. It is something that

00:22:22.690 --> 00:22:25.009
takes, we talk about this year -round endeavors

00:22:25.009 --> 00:22:28.950
in wildlife management, feral hogs are absolutely

00:22:28.950 --> 00:22:31.210
something that is a year -round endeavor. Now

00:22:31.210 --> 00:22:32.849
one common thing that, you know, you call them

00:22:32.849 --> 00:22:34.690
an invasive species and they absolutely are,

00:22:34.710 --> 00:22:37.049
they're non -native invasive species. And whether

00:22:37.049 --> 00:22:39.470
you're talking about plants or animals, there's

00:22:39.470 --> 00:22:41.349
one thing that they have in common and that's

00:22:41.349 --> 00:22:44.890
they displace more native species. So they tend

00:22:44.890 --> 00:22:47.410
to out -compete a lot of our native species for

00:22:47.410 --> 00:22:50.049
resources that are, you know, just like a plant,

00:22:50.410 --> 00:22:52.210
an invasive species plant, competing with another

00:22:52.210 --> 00:22:55.230
plant. They're competing for that same light,

00:22:55.349 --> 00:22:58.029
space, resources, nutrients. It's no different

00:22:58.029 --> 00:23:00.410
with a feral hawk. So, you know, you just kind

00:23:00.410 --> 00:23:03.970
of, you got a toolbox there. You got to try to

00:23:03.970 --> 00:23:05.829
pull everything out of the toolbox, hit them

00:23:05.829 --> 00:23:08.490
from every angle, do the best you can. And, you

00:23:08.490 --> 00:23:10.289
know, I always tell folks, you know, depending

00:23:10.289 --> 00:23:12.690
on what, every scenario is different, but you

00:23:12.690 --> 00:23:16.099
know. Put some pressure on that's what you got

00:23:16.099 --> 00:23:19.259
to do. Yeah, you know no matter the scenario

00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:40.779
Now, if your neighbor can get on the runoff and

00:23:40.779 --> 00:23:43.359
the third neighbor, that's even better. But no,

00:23:43.539 --> 00:23:46.099
it's a tough game, really tough. Make sure you

00:23:46.099 --> 00:23:48.420
have two neighbors at any time if you buy beans

00:23:48.420 --> 00:23:54.740
and broccoli. And we mentioned Dr. Gentry. He

00:23:54.740 --> 00:24:01.299
has worked on the bait to help control the population.

00:24:02.339 --> 00:24:04.940
This is with him back in the summer, and he told

00:24:04.940 --> 00:24:07.819
me next to Bruce, he said, we're still... fighting

00:24:07.819 --> 00:24:11.400
this to get it through the EPA and get it through

00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:14.319
all of the steps we have to take it to get it

00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:16.380
to where we can produce it to have it available

00:24:16.380 --> 00:24:20.960
for public use. And I was trying to get him to

00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:22.680
commit to a timeline. He's like, man, I wish

00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:24.940
I could give you a timeline. It's been years.

00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.720
It's just going to take, it's a time thing. And

00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:33.059
he was listed on all of those trials they have

00:24:33.059 --> 00:24:38.890
to do. Part of the issue is off -target consumption

00:24:38.890 --> 00:24:42.230
by other animals. So they think they've figured

00:24:42.230 --> 00:24:44.769
out that, you know, how to use the bait and how

00:24:44.769 --> 00:24:47.990
to move the bait and how to broadcast the bait

00:24:47.990 --> 00:24:51.730
or whatever. So it's a more complicated issue

00:24:51.730 --> 00:24:54.509
about the baiting side of it to eradicate them

00:24:54.509 --> 00:24:58.029
than it is. It's just a matter of literally just

00:24:58.029 --> 00:25:00.529
running them off to the bait. We talked about

00:25:00.529 --> 00:25:02.809
two bad, you know, three things are kind of down.

00:25:03.470 --> 00:25:05.970
Then I'm gonna bring up a fourth thing that some

00:25:05.970 --> 00:25:08.609
people may, yeah, but I think it was exciting.

00:25:08.869 --> 00:25:11.329
We completed our first bear season. We have.

00:25:11.369 --> 00:25:15.730
Oh, that was fun. I mean, to see, I think for

00:25:15.730 --> 00:25:17.890
them to, there's some information that's having

00:25:17.890 --> 00:25:21.289
to be rewritten about the size of bears after

00:25:21.289 --> 00:25:23.529
bear season this year. I think there was some...

00:25:23.369 --> 00:25:29.509
I can think of two, one that was a 697, 98 pound.

00:25:29.849 --> 00:25:31.710
I haven't heard the Boone and Crockett final

00:25:31.710 --> 00:25:33.970
yet, but it was going to be, everything I heard

00:25:33.970 --> 00:25:36.369
was going to be in the top three in the nation

00:25:36.369 --> 00:25:40.009
for size. And there was one before that that

00:25:40.009 --> 00:25:44.009
was in the 500 pound range. Last time, last thing

00:25:44.009 --> 00:25:48.890
I read, black bears are cool. No, it is some

00:25:48.890 --> 00:25:52.410
interesting results coming from that first bear

00:25:52.410 --> 00:25:55.309
season. One thing I will say is we are trying

00:25:55.309 --> 00:25:59.269
to have the program leader for... for the large

00:25:59.269 --> 00:26:01.269
carnivore program, I believe it is, with the

00:26:01.269 --> 00:26:03.170
Department of Wildlife and Fisheries come to

00:26:03.170 --> 00:26:06.369
this wildlife field day. Now, I'm not a large

00:26:06.369 --> 00:26:08.210
carnivore guy, I can't give you a whole lot of

00:26:08.210 --> 00:26:10.890
insight into that, but he'll be there and hopefully

00:26:10.890 --> 00:26:13.630
we can get some season updates on how this past

00:26:13.630 --> 00:26:16.089
season went, what we're looking at in the future,

00:26:16.329 --> 00:26:19.849
maybe surrounding this next season, and some

00:26:19.849 --> 00:26:21.869
basic bare biology for folks, because I know

00:26:21.869 --> 00:26:24.230
that it has generated a lot of interest from

00:26:24.230 --> 00:26:27.630
a social media standpoint. It was, it was exciting.

00:26:27.500 --> 00:26:29.579
to see some of those things, some of the ages

00:26:29.579 --> 00:26:31.640
that they correlated with these bears and some

00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:34.640
of their weights. So I know it'll be a well -received

00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.059
topic and a lot of questions from stakeholders.

00:26:37.059 --> 00:26:39.119
Do you know how many they killed? I can't remember

00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:42.059
anymore. No, I'm pretty sure I know, but I'd

00:26:42.059 --> 00:26:45.299
hate to say and be held to it. It wasn't high

00:26:45.299 --> 00:26:48.720
numbers in this first season. I think there were

00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:51.900
10 or 11. I was thinking 10, but I really don't

00:26:51.900 --> 00:26:55.380
remember. I don't. I don't remember, I remember

00:26:55.380 --> 00:26:57.259
hearing, I want to say there were 10, either

00:26:57.259 --> 00:27:01.539
10 or 11 tags and something about that 11th one,

00:27:01.579 --> 00:27:04.960
I'm not sure why that worked out that way. But

00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:07.859
yeah, it was just to watch those numbers come

00:27:07.859 --> 00:27:10.839
in on Facebook, on different social media posts

00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:15.700
of bears that were taken. The story's with him.

00:27:17.339 --> 00:27:19.579
It's the classic thing about hearing about somebody

00:27:19.579 --> 00:27:22.740
being corn fed. Some of those bears were corn

00:27:22.740 --> 00:27:25.559
fed. You got almost a 700 pound black bear over

00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:29.299
here. That rascal was corn fed. He has eaten

00:27:29.299 --> 00:27:32.799
a lot of corn on the cob and some corn fields

00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:38.640
to get to that size. Just no doubt. I guess they

00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:40.779
say bears are carnivores, but they're omnivores,

00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.460
they don't eat anything. You talk to different

00:27:43.460 --> 00:27:45.640
guys, they'll eat telephone poles, they'll eat

00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:49.940
diesel fuel lines, they'll eat parts off of diesel

00:27:49.940 --> 00:27:53.799
pump motors, and just whatever. But I know in

00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:58.099
my part of the world, it was a, we see bears,

00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:00.220
I'm not gonna say, I'm gonna say I see bears

00:28:00.220 --> 00:28:03.660
on a daily basis, but on almost a weekly basis

00:28:03.660 --> 00:28:09.099
in Western Paris, out in the fields. during planting

00:28:09.099 --> 00:28:12.319
and during water and then at the end of the seed

00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.539
and harvest, almost on, well, during harvest

00:28:15.539 --> 00:28:21.059
almost on a daily basis. They are definitely

00:28:21.059 --> 00:28:26.859
a resounding success story for recovery from

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the brink of extinction. It depends on what numbers

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you believe or what numbers you listen to. But

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I know now that, boy, I've seen some tracks and

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seen some bears that make me want to go back

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and get in the truck. No, I've got a weak heart.

00:28:42.230 --> 00:28:45.630
I had a heart surgery. When I see a 400 or 500

00:28:45.630 --> 00:28:48.390
pound bear, I really don't want to, you know,

00:28:48.509 --> 00:28:51.150
say, hey, how you doing? I'm going in the truck,

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so. I saw one once on Bo Hutton's, and I can

00:28:54.089 --> 00:28:57.549
remember, like, I think I even got the screen,

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the conversation in Texas was screen -shotted,

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like, hey, it's... you know everything got quiet

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all of a sudden the birds stopped chirping everything

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just kind of shut off and then the next second

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was a bear walking out go ahead you don't really

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have anything on the other end you know yeah

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i'm sure everybody's seen the videos of the bear

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climbing the tree the guy sitting i love that

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video yeah he's sitting in the climbing stand

00:29:22.130 --> 00:29:27.099
the bear climbs the tree looks at him Yeah, you

00:29:27.099 --> 00:29:31.160
definitely hear stories like Kylie's very regularly.

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I work with a lot of deer managers for several

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years now. I don't have any hard data to back

00:29:36.819 --> 00:29:38.960
this up, obviously, but from an anecdotal standpoint.

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You hear about more observations, more people

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seeing them, having interactions. With this first

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bear season, they've kicked something off. It

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seems like a positive thing. I'm looking forward

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to getting more information on that as well.

00:29:55.889 --> 00:29:58.309
Well, we've kind of glossed over a lot of topics

00:29:58.309 --> 00:30:02.009
today. Luke, I appreciate you. I'd like to have

00:30:02.009 --> 00:30:05.250
you back as we move through the coming year and

00:30:05.250 --> 00:30:08.109
you develop your program. It's a cool thing,

00:30:08.109 --> 00:30:11.930
again, to have a co -worker that has moved up

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through being an extension agent, county agent,

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and into a specialist position. That's me for

00:30:19.910 --> 00:30:22.990
me as a professional. I want to have you back.

00:30:24.029 --> 00:30:27.759
as you grow your program as you have. Yeah, I

00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:29.359
know you're 100 % extension. You're still going

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to do a little bit of research? Oh, yeah. We'll

00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.119
do some applied research, for sure. I've got

00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:36.420
some pilot sky things that we're wanting to accomplish

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and collaborate with. And we've got a really

00:30:40.059 --> 00:30:42.339
great team here in the Northeast, from agent

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to more specialists. I'm looking forward to collaborate

00:30:45.019 --> 00:30:48.680
with folks and have a strong program. So we'll

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definitely come back and give us some updates

00:30:50.940 --> 00:30:53.619
on what we're working on. So no doubt about that.

00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:55.440
Well, I haven't said wildlife was here before

00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:59.400
us. There's always been a buzz, like anytime

00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.039
you throw a glen or anybody in there, that would

00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:04.440
bring the crowd, so you should, and your field

00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.680
day's a really good one, so. I appreciate you

00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.259
staying time to talk to us today. Where can they

00:31:11.259 --> 00:31:13.539
reach you? Which office are you gonna be? Yep,

00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:16.640
I'm still housed in the Caldwell office there,

00:31:16.859 --> 00:31:20.180
it's in Caldwell Parish, you know, but. Being

00:31:20.180 --> 00:31:22.539
a statewide specialist, contacting any of them,

00:31:22.660 --> 00:31:24.140
especially here in the Northeast region where

00:31:24.140 --> 00:31:26.099
I'm going to be housed, contacting any of the

00:31:26.099 --> 00:31:28.579
agents there, they can get in touch. I've got

00:31:28.579 --> 00:31:31.140
an email there, probably a quick Google search

00:31:31.140 --> 00:31:34.180
to our website. We'll probably offer up my email.

00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:35.440
That's a great way to get in touch with me. I'll

00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:38.339
put it in the show cap. Yep, absolutely. Thank

00:31:38.339 --> 00:31:40.579
you for coming. Just good sitting down with us,

00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.740
Kyle. Thank you. We're going to kick off. We've

00:31:44.740 --> 00:31:46.920
been kind of daring up this past couple of...

00:31:47.779 --> 00:31:50.059
Well, we have two people retire, we've brought

00:31:50.059 --> 00:31:54.839
on Shelly. It's just meetings time of year. It's

00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.240
meeting season. I mean, we literally have been,

00:31:57.299 --> 00:32:00.519
we've had Aggie adventures last week and it's

00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:02.200
been re -certification meetings, this, that,

00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.359
and the other. So we're going to get back on

00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.900
a little bit better schedule as we start, as

00:32:07.900 --> 00:32:10.160
we move into planning season. I think we're going

00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:12.240
to sit down with Shelly in the next week or two,

00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.549
talk about some core planning. Talk about some

00:32:15.549 --> 00:32:17.089
of these things that we're looking at in the

00:32:17.089 --> 00:32:19.890
market. Might even try to have Dr. Del Berto

00:32:19.890 --> 00:32:21.990
on at some point. I know that came out in my

00:32:21.990 --> 00:32:28.630
advisory set. Yeah. I know you're on that. Yeah.

00:32:28.630 --> 00:32:31.490
We want to hear from Dr. Del Berto. He's the

00:32:31.490 --> 00:32:35.009
economist, the profit analyst. That's sometimes

00:32:35.009 --> 00:32:37.869
the sole point right now with guys, but we'll

00:32:37.869 --> 00:32:40.730
try to have Dr. Del Berto on to talk about the

00:32:40.730 --> 00:32:44.650
economy and the life thereof. So thank y 'all

00:32:44.650 --> 00:32:47.410
for spending some time with us and I'll throw

00:32:47.410 --> 00:32:49.069
it around to everyone one last time. Yeah, y

00:32:49.069 --> 00:32:51.230
'all join us again next time. We appreciate you

00:32:51.230 --> 00:32:53.690
listening and thanks again Luke for coming. Yeah,

00:32:53.690 --> 00:33:09.309
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