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I've never been clear.

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I don't think I'm the only one that's not clear what differences.

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How are we coming back to the same topic?

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Didn't we?

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Didn't we talk about this before?

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I thought I thought Noel has a he's got a crocodile alligator thing figured out.

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Well, the Steve Irwin's are in Australia and he's Australian.

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So I think that means he has to know.

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He's also muted.

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So that's what I asked.

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Start the show.

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You need to go on.

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Welcome to Game of Notes, a weekly podcast

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on the cosmos from independent validator teams.

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Hello, welcome to Game of Notes, a weekly podcast on the cosmos

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from independent validator teams.

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And now are you are you with us yet?

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Yeah.

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Did you do a little weird?

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I don't know if it's a little delay.

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Everybody or just me.

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But that's just really delay.

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He's farther away now.

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So audio then video was what I experienced there.

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Oh, yeah.

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Shit, this is like a thing that I've been working on.

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Wow.

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And then you showed up with that.

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Excellent.

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That's that's how we're going to roll.

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We're going anyway.

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Travel around the whole world and came back to your same problems.

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You know, not everything works perfectly when you having to

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stream out your parents' basements.

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So, you know, you've got to kind of, you know, I was expecting all my

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problems just to fix themselves while I was going.

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But fuck hell.

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You were like, well, fix everything.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's just, you know, here we are.

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I've got the same problems, you know, slowly, slowly getting more problems.

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Welcome to the bad market, baby.

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I'm just saying, every single week, I'm just like, I wonder if this week,

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wonder if this week will be better.

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And you are, you are not allowed to complain about the bear market.

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None of you are.

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You don't know your pain.

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Well, yes and no.

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Yes.

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Well, let's go a yes and no.

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I would say that I assume I assume we're referring to different ecosystems.

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And I would remind you about our AWS bill before you continue.

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Don't make me get out the calculator and tell you how insignificant your AWS

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bill is.

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It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

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Yes, just have a little turn about.

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Still turn about.

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It's, you know, it's, it's a problem.

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Don't make me do a full economic assessment here.

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You know, I was on a call earlier where we were talking about effectively turns

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like it was like Grant stuff.

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And I'm always impressed by anybody who pulls the fucking massive flex of being

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able to do mental maths to the point of like, you should, you're sort of saying

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something out loud like, oh, you know, well, you know, maybe a potential solution

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would be something wrong lines of this.

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And somebody goes like, okay, yeah, back of the packet.

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That means this, this, this.

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And you're like, well, doesn't somebody have a fucking GCSE in maths?

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You go with back of the envelope here, but you can, you can make an estimation

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just based on, you know, the information of it.

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Yeah, you can just like some fucking DeFi degen shit where it's just like, you

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know, because the solution isn't like encrypted solution is never as simple as,

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hey, how about we pay you a fair day's wage for a fair day's work?

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No, like fucking is, it's like, we're going to escrow some tokens with your

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fucking liquid balls thing.

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And everybody, everybody's going to make what a bear market and make fractions

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of a penny on each feed the thing.

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And then something, something, there's a doge over here and there's money over

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there. And somebody just casually is like, oh, yeah, that gauge.

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Yeah, I think that's going to be about about $1,000 a month.

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And you're like, what the fuck?

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When did I remember come from?

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What? How?

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Show me you're working.

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I want to see that.

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But I'm also impressed and intimidated by what you've just done.

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So that might also be the tiredness talking, but I think generally I'm just

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intimidated by competency, which just general, general competence.

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Just like, hang on a minute.

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I've put a screen to a knife fight.

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What's all this?

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This sounds like they know what they're doing.

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This is horrifying.

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It's like I came in here ready to, ready to roll some bums, some hobos.

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Yeah, of course.

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Fuck, it turns out these guys are a preferred business outfit.

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What the fuck?

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I didn't get involved in crypto to deal with professionals.

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I've been, I've been outmatched.

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So I love actually, you know, here's something I want to mention.

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I love how we've started printing bear market blocks in our, in our spreadsheet.

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What do you mean?

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Empty.

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Oh yeah.

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I know.

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We're printing a lot of empty blocks in the spreadsheet.

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Not quite empty blocks.

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We've got a couple of things in the spreadsheet, although, you know, I know

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it's the thing that remains week after week and it's getting like bigger and

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more redder is the life is a meaningless march of emptiness and despair.

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Like, I'll look at things with agendas.

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Every few weeks, we just drew a font size on that one.

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Just feel like it has been getting bigger to pat the team up, you know,

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well, hey, you know, yeah, there's been a lot of, been a lot of inflation

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in the size of the baby.

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We're nearly, I fear, I fear that before too long in the game of nodes,

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baby grow, there's going to be some kind of guy.

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If I was, if I was smart enough and I was less tired, there's, there's some

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kind of UST collapse, demand side crash joke to be made about, about the

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game of nodes, baby grow, which is to be honest, the most exciting thing

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in my life right now.

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Wait, what do you mean it's going to be a, you mean like there's going to be a

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rip or there's going to be some sort of defecation that could be anything?

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I mean, it could be anything.

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Yeah, it is what I've learned.

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I didn't think it was possible to poo through two layers of clothing, but

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hey, that might be UST.

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That could be, is that exogenous?

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No, it's probably a.

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It's a, it's a viscosity problem.

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You know, I think the problem is it's an endogenous problem becoming

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an exogenous problem, but an economist might be able to correct me on that one.

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So, I mean, that, that onesie is a one of one NFT that however could also be

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recreated many different times, like every other NFT.

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When it's too small, I should mint NFT and then burn the, burn the onesie

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along with the, along with what's been done to it.

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It was a white one, white onesie, which is possibly now it's tan.

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The, slightly off page.

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Just a little turn around from white.

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So, but yeah.

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So, but, but, but, but there has been one exciting thing in the Cosmos that I

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feel like straight on the top of the show, I want to be like straight, seven

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minutes in noise launch, we talked about that last week.

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We didn't, we meant to.

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I felt noise launch.

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That's kind of cool.

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Like we always, we're always bitching about like shit chains launching without a

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kind of actual use case.

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Noise is, you know, we're obviously had had Simon on the show previously.

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So, to answer our dumb questions, like it's a useful chain with the actual use

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case, the DRAN stuff is pretty cool.

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I mean, like all these things, it's going to be rocky for a little while.

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And it's certainly not going to work particularly profitably as far as I can

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tell from, from being in a bad market, but.

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It doesn't need to be it, but I'm like, my expectations, it's not like it's

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going to the moon, right?

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Like it's, it's performing a service that.

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The noise is not going to the main.

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Sorry.

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Stop fudding my bag.

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Sorry.

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Sorry.

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What do you mean?

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It's not going to the moon.

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What?

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My bags.

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My bags.

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But it, it's a, it's a.

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Man, I thought I was going to clip my golden ticket.

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Shit.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm going to ask you all the knees, but it is, it's providing value.

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It's, it's obviously well engineered.

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It's going to do its job.

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Hopefully it can earn some revenue, right?

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Like what else do you want?

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So solving a purpose, it can grow, right?

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There's other things it can do.

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We're also running the, the, the DRAN robot, which is kicking ass.

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It's kind of fun.

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Are you, are you winning the, the DRAN battles?

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Yeah.

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Every one, which I think is a problem.

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Wait, how are you winning every one?

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That's anyone that I'm in is green.

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I just went to go look at it because it's been running for a while.

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I'm running on a really overpowered box that is left over from another chain

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to be named, to be left nameless.

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Um, and it's well connected.

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It's peered.

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Well, it is, uh, yeah, it's doing pretty good.

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So I actually just checked in that because I was seeing how it was doing,

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but it's anything that gets pulled in, it's in there.

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Who, I think that's a problem actually, because it shouldn't be.

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Is it on a hits in the books?

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No, it's sitting in equinex.

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It's sitting on a box.

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It's an equinex data center with like the best peering in the universe

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on an Epic 7543p.

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That's the only thing that it's doing is running that in a node.

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Until, until my, until, until the subscription runs out at the end of

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April and then it'll go into a, uh, something far less exciting.

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Because I mean, DRAN, DRAN Oracle, that's not breaking the heads in a TOS.

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Sure.

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I don't, I mean, it's, I, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

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it also run a note on it because I want it to be, I want it to be close to, uh,

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actually I send it, I send my, those DRAN to myself.

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I sent the polka cause he's really close, um, in, in, uh, in ping and

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somebody else I sent it to.

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So it sends out three and whatever wins, wins.

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And yeah, it does pretty well.

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So is this, is this an aptos life thing?

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Just having miscellaneous Epic boxes sitting around.

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It's, it's, it's set for decommission.

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I just missed the, uh, subscription date.

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So yeah, it's set around.

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I have, I have three absolute units just sat in two OVH data centers for a rainy day.

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It's, it's the life.

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It's a life.

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This is, uh, yeah, it's just, we're just dripping with Epic 48 core boxes later on here.

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What's the line from road to petition?

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Uh, this is the life we've chosen, the life we lead.

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There's only one guarantee.

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None of us will see heaven.

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What's the, uh, it's a great movie.

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I don't remember the phrase though.

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What's the, how does that really do what we just talked about?

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It's, it's when he's trying to, so a little bit of a spoiler here.

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Sorry if you haven't seen road to petition, but it's when he's talking to,

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is it Paul Newman?

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It's when Tom Hanks is talking, I think it's Paul Newman and he's, he's, he's,

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he's, he's trying to explain the central predicament and drama driver of the film

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involves his son and he's trying to explain why his son being wrapped up in the situation

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doesn't basically should exempt the normal thing that would happen in a mob

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organization when the thing that are the, the important drama thing that has happened

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has happened and he's trying to sort of advocate for his son.

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And he says, oh, you know, this is the life we've lived in this life, which we've chosen.

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Only one guarantee.

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None of us will see heaven.

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That's Paul Newman's character and Tom Hanks, you know, it is folksy Tom Hanks.

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Where it's like, my son, my, my Michael, Michael, my dude, your Tom Hanks is awesome.

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Yeah, it's good.

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I feel like I need to watch that road to permission again.

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I was going to watch a man called Otto tonight.

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Oh, it's great.

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And that's what I've heard.

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Yeah.

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So I want to I want to Christen my new couch that I got yesterday.

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Christen.

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Christen it.

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Yes.

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Christen.

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It's going to be the maiden voyage of the cow.

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You go to Newcatch.

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I did get Newcatch.

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Yeah. Oh, he was like, we've got to get.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Like no slip on this thing and burning it.

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Is it leather?

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Is it leather?

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No, no, it's not leather.

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It's a leather.

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Cassie's vegan.

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So we can't do leather.

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Well, I wear like leather belt.

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Counting a fucking sit on leather.

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I thought that just meant you can't eat it.

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Well, I mean, it kind of depends on the person, right?

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But a lot of people like they don't want to support the killing of animals.

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Basically, yeah, hurricane is just in we're slaughtering them anyway.

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Well, I mean, meanwhile, like you have to buy it up in the mother.

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Yeah, man, I love that chair.

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I spent some time in that bitch.

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That is your gravity chair.

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Oh, yeah, that one's leather.

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That one is leather, but that one's mine.

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I can have that.

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Oh, sorry.

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You mentioned something else.

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No, I thought I thought you were talking about the chair.

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No, no, no, that the glorious

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zero gravity chair remains as it is.

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But no, the sofa and living room, because like on the right hand side,

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it was too sunken in.

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I thought, like, I can't put up with that anymore.

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My sad back can't take it.

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Some of the some of the best times I had in the States was just skulking

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around Schultz's house, playing with these like shit.

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I kind of in my in my head, I can't because of the posters in Schultz's room,

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I kind of I kind of can't decide whether like you leave the room

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and it's going to be like a triumph of minimalism.

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It's going to be like all fucking Scandi and shit and really fucking West Coast

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and like nice, or whether it's going to be like just like cool shit everywhere,

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just like random Lego models and stuff and just like, oh,

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maybe neither of the above, but I feel like it would either be one or the other.

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And I don't know why I have that kind of either totally nothing in the house

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or just like hoarders, paradise, but mainly cool shit.

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I appreciate that that that medium you're giving me.

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Unfortunately, the house is like partially being like renovated.

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Ish because like we're painting the walls and stuff.

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So like all the walls are stripped throughout the house, basically.

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This is the asbestos chat from previous previous episode of cameo notes.

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Everybody, if you have a regular listener, it's right.

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I don't know which episode it was, but there was an episode where asbestos came up.

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Yeah. Yeah. Sorry about that.

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Well, but there are there are some cool things still up.

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So like my grandfather, whenever he died a couple years back,

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he gave me some of his wood carvings.

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So I've got like wood carvings of like a stag and wolves.

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Wolves, all of its place.

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So I got some cool things.

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You tell me you've got some one of one wood NFTs.

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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Yes.

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Did your dad, he was a headache.

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Sorry, did your did your granddad make the light switch thing?

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No, but he did make the table.

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The light switch thing, I think was from Etsy, but the table next to the couch.

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He did make that.

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OK, cool. The table.

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But everything. Yeah. Oh, the couch.

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OK. Yeah. OK. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool.

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And me and my granddad made a like a little

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like cupboard on wheels with a drawer on top.

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It's like a little mini bedside on wheels.

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Yeah, it's a piece of shit.

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I mean, it's more like a drink cabinet.

328
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We made it like an hour in the wood shed, and it is not impressive.

329
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But, you know, it's a memoir.

330
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Yeah, right. I have shit like that, too.

331
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I can't beat it.

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My life in Woodcraft by Null.

333
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I'm a man. Yeah, you know, it's like I don't know how you make a bedside table.

334
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It's half bog, but we did.

335
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Were you like six years old or 36 years old?

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Makes a difference.

337
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You're 36 years old.

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We've got a few stays. Yeah.

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It's like, oh, I'm glad.

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That was a second drinks cabinet.

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I'm really.

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I'm going with I'm going with low teens.

343
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Like they're all they're all long.

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All right, all right.

345
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So, you know, hey, what's this?

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Oh, so on the movie chat, like I very much recommend if you've been a bit of a lull

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and you've expanded all of your exploitation era Australian films,

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just go on YouTube and go best cinematography or Oscar best cinematography

349
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supercar and there's just like loads of really good ideas for films in there.

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And I think it's why road petition is in my head,

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because I think road to petition,

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which I thought was a kind of sort of semi forgotten, but OK, gangster film.

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I think it actually won best cinematography

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when it was released.

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And I remember it being quite a striking film, if it is the one I'm thinking of.

356
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And so that's I think why it's in my head.

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It won something.

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I think it was best cinematography.

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I think that's also why because it came up in that big round.

360
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But then to be fair, some art a shot did also win Oscars over the years

361
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that there wasn't all that good.

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So but then, you know, so what I realized, I watched a super cut of,

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you know, just like a couple of scenes from each of the best picture films

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and then one of the best cinematography.

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And I felt like the films that I like more

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were the best cinematography ones rather than the best pictures.

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I mean, for starters, because fucking Lord of the Rings won best picture

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and Master and Commander won best cinematography in the same year.

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And obviously, the better film.

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Vastly superior.

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Right. So right there, we could say that just, you know,

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obviously, the cinematography is masking the true.

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It's the true, you know, it's the like the the Pooh Bear and the Tuxedo.

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The man of culture doesn't watch the best picture run.

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Master and Commander won something.

376
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Yeah, won like four Academy Awards, I think.

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Holy shit. Maybe more.

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Sound design, active screenplay, cinematography.

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Must have been some like.

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And I think editing.

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Maybe maybe costume as well, actually, because there was a there was a whole

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thing about how how much effort they went into for both the costume

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and to do the sound design for like the cannons and stuff.

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They literally cracked out 200 year old cannons from museums in England and America.

385
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That's cool to be like, well, what does it sound like when we record a cannon

386
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with 15 microphones? Yeah, it's like the entire world is exploding.

387
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I could see for audio. That was a good audio for the custom design.

388
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Well, how hard is that?

389
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They're all in the same fucking thing.

390
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So you get some rags, put them on.

391
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I'm surprised. It's like how complex doing good costume is.

392
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And my partner watches this thing where they literally it's like, you know,

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everybody has like a zone out YouTube space, like a happy space.

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So it says that it won the award for longest feeling picture.

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Best value for money is what I call that.

396
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But you know, everybody has like a zone out YouTube thing where they just

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throw it on the background. Like I quite like.

398
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You know, coffee ziller or like economics explained or like the Bovington Tank Museum,

399
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you know, just your standard just throw it on.

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My economics explained is like top tier, like stationary bike YouTube. Yeah.

401
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Yeah, it's kind of like it's quite good for that.

402
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Just kind of like I kind of want something sort of vaguely like I'll come away with it

403
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with some kind of interesting information.

404
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But like, hey, before, so my partner watches the thing, which is her equipment.

405
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That is quite often costume in film.

406
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And it turns out it's an area that like if it's done badly, you super notice.

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If it's done well, you don't know, of course, but then like, especially in anything

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that's like a little bit past in the past, like beyond where we kind of just

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instinctively can tell it looks wrong.

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People obviously take a lot of liberties.

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And that's the interesting thing where people can kind of get away with being

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shit, but they actually make an effort to try and get it right.

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And that becomes super complicated because there gets to be a point where it's just

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like, well, outside of these few things in the museum, we don't actually know how

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people made that.

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So if you want to do it right for a film, you basically have to get a bunch of

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really good tailors and be like, go to a museum, reverse engineer this garment,

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and then make me 15 more of them.

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And it's like really complex.

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And then, you know, in kind of like, you know, whatever it is, like textiles,

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literature, then people will literally go and be like, well, we thought that

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everybody had pockets in the 17th century.

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And it turns out we reverse engineered a bunch and we've completely changed our

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opinion on how pockets worked.

425
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It's actually quite interesting, especially pockets, because pockets are really,

426
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that's one of those ones where there's a lot more, there's a lot of stuff to pockets.

427
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I mean, that shit's fascinating.

428
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I got sucked into an armorer, critiquing movies at one point.

429
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And he had some serious opinions about like, I think it was in the Alexander movie.

430
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Yeah, it's under the great movie where like someone was wearing a pauldron and he got

431
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all fired up about it.

432
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He's like, listen, Alexander the Great supposed to like 1200.

433
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Pauldrons didn't really start showing up because of the certain weaponry around 1500.

434
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And then went on like a 17 minute spiel about pauldrons based on that.

435
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And that's where I get sucked in.

436
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That's where I'm all committed.

437
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I watched The Great on the other day, which is all about the amount of historical evidence

438
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there is for the various ways in which phalanxes were deployed.

439
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Phalanxes were deployed in the high-class school Greek period.

440
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And how little we essentially know.

441
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And how much we've also painted, how we think they fought into the period before and the

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period after based on almost no evidence, which makes sense.

443
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I mean, if you do any kind of classics, you just like, there's almost no primary sources

444
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left on anything.

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And you're like, yeah, we're just going to like draw loads of conclusions about how

446
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people would have fought.

447
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And you're like, based on what?

448
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Yeah, it's all based on The Wall of Hell or whatever it's called, the movie that they

449
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put based on 300.

450
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Yeah.

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And there's also like this whole, a lot of them is also based on like vases.

452
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And then like, as anybody kind of goes, well, hang on a minute, this vase or this ceramic

453
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or this painting is two-dimensional.

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So if you're trying to represent like people are like, oh yeah, no, there's loads of periods

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where shield walls were used.

456
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And it's like, yeah, of course the shield walls were used, but it's not phalanx because

457
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they've had to represent all the soldiers two-dimensionally.

458
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So they're all just in a line.

459
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But they're all just holding javelins and they were probably just throwing them.

460
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It probably wasn't a phalanx.

461
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It was a different period of history.

462
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They probably just throwing those guys and then they're just jerking off a guy over their

463
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shoulder.

464
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But the whole thing in 300 with the pushing, that is actually based on the, I think it's

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like the historical whatever it is, like the orthodox view of how the fighting happened,

466
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which is that they didn't want many of the soldiers to be able to fight.

467
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So it was mainly a shoving match until one side sort of gave up in a particular period

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of Greek history.

469
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And that's where that came from.

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It has like a whole name.

471
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It's like the shoving has like a Greek name that was used at the time.

472
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But then again, there's like a dissenting view.

473
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It's just like, yeah, the front rows were shoving each other, trying to kill each other.

474
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That was not the main, they were tried fucking.

475
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You made a lot of additional conclusions about how this worked just based on one word that

476
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basically amounts to shoving.

477
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I mean, pockets are not that master and commander movie really sucked.

478
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Yeah.

479
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I mean, I don't think there's that much pockets involved in that.

480
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I think that was all about the pockets.

481
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So I mean, pockets is an interesting subject in the book.

482
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I think that was all about the pockets.

483
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I mean, pockets is an interesting subject in clothing from having overheard a lot of

484
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stuff in the background around the house about clothing.

485
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,360
I was just like, yeah, pockets.

486
00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:55,880
Who knew?

487
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,160
Sometimes men had great pockets.

488
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,360
Sometimes women had great pockets.

489
00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:00,920
Sometimes nobody had good pockets.

490
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,040
Usually somebody had good pockets.

491
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,760
There was a whole period of time where women just had like huge pockets in their clothes.

492
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,800
You put a whole loaf of bread in.

493
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,840
Not today.

494
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,720
Yeah.

495
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,320
And now pocket poverty.

496
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,680
Yeah, we're swallowing the app.

497
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,960
It's away and there's no pockets.

498
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,000
It doesn't make any sense.

499
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,280
And you know, it's crazy pocket to put a whole loaf of bread in.

500
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,800
Like that's basically a basic.

501
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,600
As soon as I heard about that, I was like, that's great.

502
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,240
That's amazing.

503
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:26,040
I mean, if you think about hoodies, I guess, kind of a bread pocket, isn't it?

504
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:26,680
Yeah.

505
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,000
I don't know, but it's a bread pocket.

506
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,840
Women's pants.

507
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,560
It's more of a sausage.

508
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,640
Women's pants when they put like a phone in their back pocket,

509
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,880
like three quarters of sticking out the top.

510
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:40,520
That kills me.

511
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,320
I don't know how.

512
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,520
That's so much trust in that pocket.

513
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,360
Every single one is very stressful, isn't it?

514
00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:44,600
Yeah.

515
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,040
I'm like, oh my God, what are they going to do?

516
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,560
They're going to sit on and crack it.

517
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,520
How am I going to handle this?

518
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,400
It's not even my phone.

519
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,040
It's going to fall.

520
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,360
It's going to make me think about it.

521
00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:52,840
I don't.

522
00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:59,640
Anyway, I started learning from YouTube polls.

523
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:06,600
I also learned one of the main reasons why the Russian advance was halted in Ukraine.

524
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,720
You know, the northern attack down towards Kiev, where the Ukrainians were very unprepared

525
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,840
for an attack from that direction.

526
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:18,520
Apparently, one of the big things that happened between the Crimean offensive and now,

527
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:27,080
with Western military observers and like trainers, is they emphasized NATO tactics rather than

528
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,960
Warsaw Pact tactics, where Warsaw Pact tends to be top down.

529
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,200
And the big thing that changed between the World War II,

530
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:39,480
and maybe also like Vietnam and stuff, and sort of now is that special forces tactics have sort

531
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,760
of bled down into all NATO armies to a lesser or greater extent, where special forces tactics

532
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:50,760
from the Second World War, like the US Marine Recon, the SAS, those kind of experimental groups

533
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,760
at the time where it was like, yeah, we want an outcome.

534
00:24:54,760 --> 00:25:00,200
Go scout this island for Japanese, tell us how many rough, yeah, rough force strength, right?

535
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,560
They're not like, take this boat, go to this island, do it in this way.

536
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,160
They'll just be like, go and find out, right?

537
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,200
So it's outcome based.

538
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,200
And like the SAS, they'd be like, go and blow up some planes while they're still on a runway,

539
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:10,920
outcome based, right?

540
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,640
Yeah.

541
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,960
It's not like, take four jeeps, 10 men in two sections, and you know, it's just like,

542
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,960
go blow up some fucking planes, blow up as many as you can, do it however you see fit, go for it.

543
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,120
But that kind of gradually became like more of the kind of strategic doctrine for,

544
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:30,280
for, for, yeah, outcomes.

545
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:36,920
Like at unit level, you have more flexibility as a small unit commander to basically drive

546
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,760
the outcome that's been given to you.

547
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,320
And apparently that's the thing that, that is supposedly the thing the Ukrainian army took

548
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:49,960
on most and has accounted for some of their ability to repel the Russians in the early

549
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:55,080
stages of the invasion because they were able to go like, well, we need to blow up some T-72s.

550
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,120
What's the most flexible way we can drive that outcome?

551
00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:04,200
It's kind of like an agile software approach to blowing up T-72s rather than a real top-down

552
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,400
waterfall.

553
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,400
Yeah.

554
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:07,720
Yeah.

555
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,920
That wasn't even a way I was going to get.

556
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,720
I didn't really, I didn't realize that was going to be the punchline to that.

557
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,480
But anyway, Cosmos.

558
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,840
Well, hold on.

559
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,440
I got one point to add to this.

560
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,120
It's interesting you bring that up because there's been such a discussion lately around

561
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,560
autonomy in children.

562
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,760
And it's kind of interesting that the military who traditionally kind of treats their,

563
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:31,880
I don't want to say their peons, their individuals as children.

564
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:32,520
True.

565
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,400
Thank you, their troops.

566
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:33,960
Yeah.

567
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,240
That's better than peons.

568
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:35,720
Yeah.

569
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:35,800
Yeah.

570
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,160
As children, the conversation is turning around into like, well, if we provide people more autonomy,

571
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,920
then they'll succeed more.

572
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,680
And so that's a big discussion.

573
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,520
My family's, there's a lot of teachers.

574
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:52,520
And so that's been in vogue in the last year on how can we provide more options for autonomy

575
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,800
and how can we, how does that lead to success and whatever.

576
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,800
But anyway, just want to throw that out there that it's kind of like goes one to one.

577
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,600
It's almost like when you empower people to, like you give them the tools to do a task and

578
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:10,280
you give them an outcome that you are mutually aligned on, they tend to have a better chance

579
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:10,920
of success.

580
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:11,880
Yeah.

581
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,560
Because then they can, you know, use critical thinking skills and like, there's might be

582
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,840
some sort of emergent creative thinking happening.

583
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,160
Yeah.

584
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:19,640
Wild.

585
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,520
Crazy.

586
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:20,920
Yeah.

587
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,320
It is obvious it hides, it's not as classic.

588
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,760
It was obvious it hides site.

589
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,760
But hey, we're all going to be obsolete thanks to GPT-4 anyway.

590
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,000
So.

591
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,080
But not, but honestly, not everybody does well in that situation.

592
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,120
Like I agree with you.

593
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:38,200
Like there, there, you have to have a, and this is a, this is an entrepreneurial type of

594
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,440
group.

595
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,960
And I think our listeners are very entrepreneurial as well, because you're like in this ecosystem.

596
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,480
And, but that's not everybody.

597
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,120
That's not everybody.

598
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:50,440
Some people really only feel comfortable when they have clear direction on what needs to

599
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,400
be done next.

600
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,200
And that's okay.

601
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,160
Like there's nothing wrong with that.

602
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,640
Like they want direction and not that, that, that liberty creates stress and it creates

603
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,560
like consternation and then you like, they don't do anything or, or you're in a position

604
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,600
where I need to be told exactly what to do and they'll do it very well.

605
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,880
But, but that's not everybody.

606
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,760
That's kind of, it's a weird, it's a weird human dynamic, right?

607
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,800
But then that's also like, that's how you, that's, that's the

608
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,560
difference between sort of, well, this is a difference in military organization between

609
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,080
you know, sort of enlisted rank and file soldiers and non-commissioned officers and

610
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,880
commissioned officers.

611
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,800
And that's why you have, that's why you have the breakdown of responsibilities and the

612
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,680
way that you do.

613
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:33,480
And that's why outcome, that's why outcome based strategy begins to work pretty well,

614
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,200
because you've got a really rigid hierarchy for escalating a decision.

615
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,640
But you have a clear, at any given point, you should have a clear person whose job it is to

616
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,000
make a decision to drive the outcome.

617
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,800
So they, they just handed down an outcome and then eventually there's people who have

618
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:58,120
to action that outcome and they're given, okay, there is the T-72, please.

619
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,200
Yeah, yeah, figure out a way.

620
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,760
Yeah, exactly.

621
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,800
I think the actions from our little conference here are take this javelin missile,

622
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:13,160
fire it at that T-72 from whatever position in this general wooded area seems to be the most

623
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,440
naturally defensible to you.

624
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:21,240
Fire and shoot, take out, you know, maybe more than one T-72, use your initiative really.

625
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,360
I'm going to leave that, I'm going to leave that with you as a, you know, an action, but

626
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,200
it will look good on your OKRs if it's more than one T-72.

627
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,160
So anyway, that's the rubber chicken's gone.

628
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,360
That's two minutes.

629
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,880
That's the end of this morning stand up.

630
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,760
So everybody one, two, three, yeah, ten killers.

631
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Right.

632
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,400
Let's go.

633
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,280
I believe the traditional one is who are.

634
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,400
Who are?

635
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,000
Marine.

636
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,840
That's not specifically the US Marine Corps or is it the Army Rangers?

637
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,960
No, that's probably Marines.

638
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,600
Yeah.

639
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:52,680
That's right.

640
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,240
Okay.

641
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:53,480
Yeah.

642
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,880
So 30 minutes in and we get to talk about noise for a little bit.

643
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,240
We took about noise at seven minutes in.

644
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,280
I got it in there because it was important that we talked about noise.

645
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,120
But what did you talk about noise?

646
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,360
You just said, oh, it started and it's random.

647
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,360
We're not going to get rich.

648
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,760
There's a lot of interesting noise moving on now.

649
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,280
I told you about the army lately.

650
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,240
I mean, it says something about where we are in the market where we're like, yeah,

651
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,400
it launched and like we're not getting rich and I'm pretty excited about it.

652
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,680
Whereas like a year ago, we'd be like, it launched.

653
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,680
We're not going to get rich.

654
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,800
That sucks.

655
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,520
So like, you know, some something that we but

656
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,960
how I did well, it's off of the market, so let's just remember how insane things are.

657
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,080
I mean, yeah.

658
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,440
So I only got up not long ago.

659
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:50,520
And when I woke up, I read the, you know, happenings around the Internet in, you know,

660
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,000
cosmos.

661
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:59,080
And I saw that there was a to tombstone on say network with Horcrux.

662
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:06,280
That is that is no way with toy with Horcrux with Horcrux.

663
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,600
That is the rumor concerning.

664
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,000
Yeah.

665
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,320
So it's slightly yeah.

666
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:11,880
Yeah.

667
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,760
I'm led to believe that it was a am s.

668
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:22,120
There was a restart of the of the Horcrux daemon and that led to a double sign.

669
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,280
I haven't read the log yet, but um,

670
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,880
crow's nest provided the log to go and have a look through.

671
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,160
Did you look shilty?

672
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,960
You look like a diligent person who would immediately look through that.

673
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,040
I did.

674
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:34,440
I did.

675
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,880
And that does appear with the issue is, um, but that was only the log from one node, right?

676
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,560
So that was the only running one note.

677
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,760
It was a single sonar instance.

678
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,320
No, it wasn't.

679
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,600
No, it was two of three.

680
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,480
It was two of three.

681
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,320
No, no, it's single single.

682
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,880
Why were there three IP addresses with three separate precommits in there?

683
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,080
He was putting three different nodes, but one signer.

684
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,080
One signer, oh, was one signer with three nodes?

685
00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,320
Yes.

686
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,520
And that's what makes it unique.

687
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,360
I don't know what the fuck with that double sign.

688
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:09,240
So I think what happened was, um, so whenever in my, uh, Horcrux service files,

689
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,960
I have like a restart timer so that if, if it's restarted,

690
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,560
it'll wait like one full block effectively before it kicks up again.

691
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,160
And I'm guessing he doesn't have that in there.

692
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,160
And so it restarted and it didn't close down cleanly.

693
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,080
And so it immediately resigned again because it didn't like fully log what happened,

694
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,040
but the blockchain did.

695
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,640
That's what I would say.

696
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,360
Maybe lost the work ahead log or something.

697
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,040
But yeah, yeah, because if you lose the while, obviously that's like a common reason for double

698
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:43,640
signing, but like most of these remote signers have some concept of essentially the state,

699
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,920
the, you know, the same consensus state file, right?

700
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,520
With the rounds and everything to get around that in case it is restarted.

701
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,640
So that is even with DJ and Horcrux, that's surprising.

702
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:54,760
Yeah.

703
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,440
I mean, I've never heard of it happening before.

704
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,480
So I'm guessing he just happened to restart it at like the absolute perfect time.

705
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,280
Right.

706
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,280
I wonder if he did it during an upgrade.

707
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,080
No, I don't think so because it was this morning, I think.

708
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,560
Go look at the, but in that log, it has, it has valid, it has the same height that,

709
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,960
that 58.95 round zero.

710
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:19,560
And it has three, two separate pre votes and two pre commits on two nodes.

711
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,680
Signed vote, but it's only connected to one node.

712
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,160
Horcrux only connects to one node at one time, right?

713
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:25,880
It fails over.

714
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,320
So why is there two pre votes and two pre commits?

715
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,360
No, I don't know.

716
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,240
It always does that.

717
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,520
It's always connected to two, but it's not, it's not presigning twice with two separate

718
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,000
hashes.

719
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,200
Oh, no, it's the same hash.

720
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,000
Yeah.

721
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,840
Like, I don't know.

722
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,120
It's always connected to both.

723
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,400
If you look at the logs, it always just keeps spitting out like, you know, pre votes and votes.

724
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,040
Yeah.

725
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,000
I always thought that was, I always thought that was,

726
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,600
I always thought that was actually on the, on the raft, not on the,

727
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,360
not based on the number of nodes that it was connected to.

728
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,160
I always thought that it was like, there was a leader and then you have a leader who can't

729
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,160
get to them one single node that was actually working with.

730
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,200
So just so, so the issue, then I asked like, if there was a config change in here or something

731
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,200
else that would force this, it still seems weird that even if, and it's all within the

732
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:08,760
same second.

733
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,600
So that thing restarted fucking quick too.

734
00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:11,480
Right.

735
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,520
Like it's all the same second.

736
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:12,680
Yeah.

737
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,160
All these blocks.

738
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,360
It's so light.

739
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,080
Right.

740
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,480
So I, I agree, you'd want to restart timeout, right, five seconds or six seconds or do

741
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:19,960
something in there.

742
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,560
And there's no reason to, that's still weird that it had to pre-commit and then it

743
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,080
restarted and signed with the, and this time it signed with the local node.

744
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,160
So it did pre-commit and pre-votes.

745
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,720
I'm sorry, pre-votes and pre-commit with two other nodes in the three of the two

746
00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:38,120
centuries, two different centuries, but there's no log for 127, 0, 0, 1 in there.

747
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:44,760
And then it restarts and it signs the vote with, with round zero on a pre-commit on the

748
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,560
local node.

749
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,920
So the other nodes must have had to pre-commit and submitted it or one of those

750
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,680
two and then it re-signed right away.

751
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,200
So basically Horcrux got lost.

752
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,080
It didn't know that it actually, that it finalized the block.

753
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,080
Did he, did he say this actually tombstone in there?

754
00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,240
Yeah.

755
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:01,160
He said it was tombstone.

756
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:01,400
Yeah.

757
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,120
So, so I guess Horcrux signed the block.

758
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,080
It died.

759
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,560
It never got the signature back.

760
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:08,360
Right.

761
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,080
There's no finalization of the block back to Horcrux.

762
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,120
Horcrux doesn't know that the block is not signed.

763
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,680
It starts instantly again and it goes, oh, shit.

764
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,640
I got to sign this block.

765
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,240
It sends it to the local node.

766
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:21,560
The local node is not one of the ones that are handed to the pre-submit.

767
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,320
It re-signs the same block all in this, in the same fraction of a second.

768
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,600
And there's, but wait, wait, wait.

769
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:26,840
Hang on.

770
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,000
So there's no, but, but how.

771
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:29,960
Yeah.

772
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,360
Horcrux should know that the pre, that pre-commit was out, right?

773
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:32,840
It should.

774
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,160
Yeah.

775
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,080
I mean, there's, there should, there's, I'm sure there's some local state because it

776
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,400
doesn't matter.

777
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,280
Yes, there is.

778
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,320
Because it's plausible that between two consensus rounds, one of the centuries would

779
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,120
go away.

780
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,200
That's, that's like completely plausible.

781
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:46,680
Correct.

782
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,440
I mean, that's like the purpose of the software, really.

783
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:50,680
Yeah.

784
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,640
I mean, that's what I'm saying.

785
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,240
It's just the right time before it had actually saved the state yet, right?

786
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,520
So it sends it off.

787
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,080
It doesn't yet send this, like save the state.

788
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,360
It's killed for whatever.

789
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,120
Oh, you're saying it's literally IO.

790
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,200
It's, it's like, it's before it's even done the log, before it's even incremented the

791
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,400
state file, it's, that would have to be a vanish.

792
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,760
The chance of that.

793
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,040
Well, we've never heard of it before, right?

794
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,520
So there's that.

795
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,320
Yeah.

796
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,800
We'd have to be a vanish in your small charts.

797
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,120
Yeah.

798
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,160
Like the first, I might put a cron job.

799
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,040
Yeah.

800
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,440
Okay.

801
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,280
I might put a cron job to just restart my service every one second.

802
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:24,920
See what happens.

803
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,280
See if I can get a double sign over the next.

804
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:28,920
On testnet, right?

805
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,720
Yeah.

806
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:30,520
What?

807
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,080
On testnet.

808
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,120
Do it on Juno.

809
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,000
It's just on testnet.

810
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,040
This was on say testnet this, right?

811
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,320
Or was this on some other testnet?

812
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,160
This is on say, this is on Atlanta too.

813
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,120
It really shouldn't matter though.

814
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,680
It really shouldn't matter here.

815
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,240
I don't know, man.

816
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:44,840
Atlantic 2 is a little bit weird though.

817
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,280
It's not like in general, tandem and stuff.

818
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,720
But I mean, this, agreed, but this is all happening within a

819
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:53,160
fraction of a second on the same.

820
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,200
I mean, honestly, it would be, I'm not sure, this seems like a

821
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,840
defect, but depending on what happened here, it would be more

822
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,280
of an issue on a slower block time chain than a higher than a

823
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,800
shorter block time chain, right?

824
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,360
Because like this is basically in this restart.

825
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Well, well, like this whole process designed to work on

826
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,440
normal tendermint, right?

827
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,840
And say it's done some shit to theirs.

828
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,640
And that shit that they've done could cause some issues with

829
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,840
this potentially.

830
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,640
Correct.

831
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:19,960
Yeah.

832
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,840
It's going back to the like the, like even though you would

833
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,400
intuitively think that the slower block time might leave more of a

834
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,840
gap for the error to happen.

835
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,640
What if one of two things is happening is there's some

836
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,080
interaction with tendermint that's resulted in the state file not

837
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,960
being updated?

838
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,560
And that's where it's not like disk writing is slow at the end of

839
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:37,880
the day.

840
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,720
It should write quickly, even if it errors.

841
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:41,880
Like the chance of that is tiny.

842
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,680
Plus there would be.

843
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,840
But there is like a fundamental assumption.

844
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Well, not a fundamental assumption.

845
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,360
There's a pretty big assumption in tendermint that your blocks are

846
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,080
a second at the absolute quickest.

847
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,880
That's kind of like kind of everywhere it's sort of the

848
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,200
assumption in tendermint that it's not really getting it quicker

849
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:56,680
than that.

850
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,120
So maybe Nell's right.

851
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,440
And there is some like edge case behavior because, you know,

852
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,880
Hawkeruck could be a little bit more of a risk to the

853
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,920
data because, you know, Hawkeruck was developed originally several

854
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,360
years ago and it's had updates and stuff since, but it's still like

855
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,360
a.

856
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,280
It says this is alpha software in big letters on it.

857
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,000
Yeah, do not use a main net.

858
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,320
Yeah, just like it doesn't say that.

859
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,000
But you know, but it should.

860
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,360
Yeah.

861
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,400
Yeah, I'm just going to start while we're on this call just

862
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,920
restarting my Hawkeruck's on say prolifically and see what

863
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,600
happens and watch the log.

864
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:33,920
Why not?

865
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,080
Sweet.

866
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,640
Maybe we'll have a lot of tombstone by the end of the

867
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,600
episode.

868
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,080
What's that?

869
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,120
Yeah, we'll know.

870
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,400
Real-time tombstone.

871
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,240
That's not happened before.

872
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:48,560
Um, real-time tombstone on the.

873
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,760
Tombstone of the week is ourselves in the chat, by the way, on the

874
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,120
costume front, Ben Davis said, used to work at Shakespeare's Globe.

875
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,520
The original practice costumes were insane.

876
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,720
Fake eyebrows were a thing and made a ferret fur.

877
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:03,520
So there you go.

878
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,000
There you go.

879
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,880
You need to emote more with larger eyebrows.

880
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,840
Kill a ferret.

881
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,200
That's that's what you can take away from that.

882
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,640
If you take one thing from this week's episode, it's not,

883
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,240
hey, go and check your Hawkeruck set up.

884
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,400
Ferret fur is what you take.

885
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,360
What in this episode?

886
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,160
What part of the ferret?

887
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,280
Probably just the ferret eyebrows.

888
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:21,920
Yeah, ferret.

889
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,120
You're not stevia.

890
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,200
How many ferrets have to die to get

891
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,440
to get to get one set of fake ferret for eyebrows?

892
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,520
The whole of the whole of the whole of the Horncham

893
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,720
ferret is one eyebrow.

894
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,280
Two ferrets per per pair.

895
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,400
But, um, hey, so follow up from last week, actually, it's not on the spreadsheet.

896
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,120
We're off.

897
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,080
We're off piece tier.

898
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,360
We're off spreadsheet.

899
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,000
We're off spreadsheet.

900
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,920
There's nothing on the spreadsheet, so it's fine.

901
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,200
We've gone under the rope again.

902
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,600
We were in a very roundabout way, maybe talked about the,

903
00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,960
the AIB lawsuit, non-compete situation.

904
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:06,160
Everybody else is like, oh, please don't bring out the legally complicated thing again.

905
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:11,040
But, um, I found something interesting in the week, um, following,

906
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,680
because something had been kind of nagging at me that I remember,

907
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,040
again, YouTube poll at some point, I remember hearing a thing and being like,

908
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,880
isn't there a whole thing about non-competes in America?

909
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,840
And I basically looked it up and like citation needed with all these things.

910
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:34,640
But I think there is actually currently a thing where the FTC is trying to bring in legislation

911
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:42,800
to limit the use of non-competes specifically, specifically because of tech firms maliciously

912
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,000
fucking each other over via the use of employee non-competes.

913
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,760
And it's something that is, I gather, moderately likely to actually happen.

914
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,560
But it's interesting that that literally that the exact, you know, kind of the,

915
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,160
what's it called, the day-to-day meme, this is the exact one thing we didn't want to happen.

916
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:08,240
That, you know, this whole situation, which is a bit of a joke, is amazing.

917
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,200
There's actually, there's literally a piece of legislation that people are trying to introduce

918
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,960
to solve this exact problem.

919
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,760
And you're like, hey, that's, that's why it's working.

920
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,760
I bet it won't happen as a result because it's not like,

921
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,720
that's the gig alone.

922
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:20,960
No, I think we talked about this before.

923
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,040
Like non-competes are really hard to enforce in the U.S.

924
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,560
Like they just, you can't, the U.S. court system will not allow somebody to not live

925
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,200
and not earn or feed their family because they worked at XYZ and they want to go work at some

926
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:33,600
place else.

927
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,000
Like that, that's extremely difficult to enforce.

928
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,040
So if, so if I, if I have a very specific skill set and I can, I create 5G modems for

929
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,000
Qualcomm and, and I write non-competes that I can't go work at Motorola or wherever else,

930
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,880
that is extremely hard to enforce because that's my skill set.

931
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,440
That's what I have.

932
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,600
And so you can say I can't work somewhere because of whatever, whatever, like that,

933
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,680
those things are typically thrown out instantly.

934
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,960
Now we talked about before, like stealing IP, stealing people, stealing customers,

935
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,000
that's totally different.

936
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,440
Like that is like me bringing what I know to companies, one thing, me rating the fucking

937
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,360
office locker and copying everything off and bringing that to another company to be able

938
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,440
to provide a competitive advantage is totally different.

939
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,680
And that, that stuff is extremely, that could be very painful, but, but yeah, like not,

940
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,320
so I'm not surprised we're trying to throw it out because I don't think actually,

941
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:25,200
I don't, I'm not convinced that like those, the major, like those major tech companies

942
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:25,840
still do those.

943
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,360
I don't think, like I haven't seen one in a long time and I haven't heard of them in

944
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:29,920
a long time.

945
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,480
I think everybody recognizes that they're really not enforceable.

946
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:37,440
Now there are, like I said before, like intellectual property agreements and like security

947
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,600
agreements and things like that around sharing data, absolutely, but not like, not, you know,

948
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,800
not in that situation.

949
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,200
I had to sign a non-compete when I was at Intel, but that was about a decade ago.

950
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,680
Yeah.

951
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,120
A little more than decade and the, it's definitely changed since then.

952
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:51,600
Yeah.

953
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,160
I think it's, it's really difficult to like, to limit to like, and the other one would

954
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,960
be the other area would be, would be like acquisitions.

955
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,760
So if you're, if you're a single or a small organization that's acquired and like, and

956
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,680
you have a consideration as part of that acquisition, you're not going to go start a

957
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,320
new company or you're not going to go work for some of these competitors.

958
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,400
That is also, that's, that's reasonable because you're being compensated in lieu of

959
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:14,800
that.

960
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,040
Like there is a, hey, you're, we're buying this company.

961
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,640
And so part of that purchases, you can't go start a, you know, you can't just leave

962
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,120
the next day and go start a comp, you know, compete against this.

963
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,600
Like, and that's, that's pretty enforceable as well.

964
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,160
Yeah.

965
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:26,560
Okay.

966
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,120
I can imagine that.

967
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,600
Hey, so you know when, when this bear continues another two years and we have to

968
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,920
decide what we're going to do in lieu of going back to McDonald's, is this going to

969
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,240
just become game of nodes that, that's going to be, that's going to be, that's going to

970
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:47,040
be slightly complaining general, general, general business owners podcast where I don't

971
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:52,800
know, I'm going to, so like if you were, if you were going to do a different small business,

972
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,000
what would it be?

973
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,360
I feel like no would be some like specialist.

974
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,520
Like it would be like, oh yeah, we just, we're the only people in Australia that make

975
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,080
helicopter rotor blade polymer.

976
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,280
I'll do roof cleaning.

977
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,640
It seems like relaxing.

978
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,920
Not even, not even roofing, not even.

979
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,120
No roof cleaning.

980
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,840
You know, where you've like spray it down, scrub the shit off it.

981
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:14,880
Haven't you seen TikTok?

982
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,160
You can make $300 a day doing that or an hour or whatever they say.

983
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:18,800
Per job.

984
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,760
I don't know.

985
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,720
My ass you can.

986
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,240
Yeah.

987
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,800
So do a roof, go to the pub, spend that $300.

988
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,080
Do another roof.

989
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,800
Don't fall off the roof.

990
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:31,760
Easy peasy.

991
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,960
Do not fall off the roof.

992
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,160
I was talking to roofers in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the

993
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,280
in the autumn and they were saying that apparently the, the old climate change is

994
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,080
making the roofing game much more difficult because all of the, a lot of the

995
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:49,280
roofs in, in the UK slate, now obviously black and they get really hot.

996
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,240
Oh, that sounds brutal.

997
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,840
And yeah, and they're just like, they're just like, the country's not designed for

998
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,520
it to be 30 degrees.

999
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,120
And let me tell you, as a roofer, I'm the first person to know that.

1000
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,040
And you're like, I can't, I'm not going to attempt this guy's accent because he was

1001
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,880
from, he was from Hull, which if you know, you know, right?

1002
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,720
And so, but yeah, he was, he was saying, Mike, every, every, he was like every single

1003
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:13,920
day of the summer, he was just roasting out on a black roof.

1004
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:16,960
Something tells me his accent sounds a lot like Tom Hanks.

1005
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,200
So I have an accent.

1006
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,120
It's all your accents the same.

1007
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,720
I roofed my house in the middle of summer and it was not pleasant.

1008
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:29,520
And an Australian summer is a lot more savage than a British summer.

1009
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,960
Yeah, that's probably fair.

1010
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,560
So the joke about Hull, right?

1011
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:38,480
Is that there's only one vowel in Hull and it's, uh, yeah, that's the Hull accent.

1012
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,480
It's like I say, very hard to describe, but when you hear it, you know it.

1013
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,840
Oh, hey, relate.

1014
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:46,880
I'm related.

1015
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,280
We just really drove around subjects here, but apparently Dennis got the waiver.

1016
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,640
So, so, so get me up to speed.

1017
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,240
What was the waiver for what?

1018
00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:01,120
To work on the open source software that he had previously been working on.

1019
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,600
Well, hold on.

1020
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,760
It gets more complicated than that though, because Dennis got the waiver, but the person

1021
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,720
that was like representing them is now being sued.

1022
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:09,360
Grace.

1023
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,560
Grace, that sounds right.

1024
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,120
Yeah, that's right.

1025
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,040
I was saying Grace, but Dennis has got the waiver.

1026
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,560
So Grace got Dennis off the hook and got sued for the...

1027
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,880
Oh, and they're showing her for disparagement, right?

1028
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,560
Because she was so vocal about it.

1029
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,760
I think so, yeah.

1030
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,560
I don't know how you can give him the waiver at the, and then there's still just a little

1031
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,920
disparagement because the kind of, you're kind of agreeing with her.

1032
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,720
Yeah, it's like, yeah, you're probably right.

1033
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:32,080
Is that what you're talking about?

1034
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,640
Yeah.

1035
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,480
Nice people are crazy.

1036
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,680
The, um, in no opinion.

1037
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,480
And if you come to Australia, try to pull that one.

1038
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,280
Update.

1039
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,880
I think I double signed.

1040
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,600
Did you?

1041
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,400
No.

1042
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,600
Well done.

1043
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:53,440
Funnily enough, I used, I used Watch to, uh, I used the watch.

1044
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,680
Watch to restart this thing.

1045
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,160
Just like, watch restart.

1046
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,360
Oh, you did.

1047
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,160
Dash N1.

1048
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,920
Did you double sign?

1049
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:02,880
He did.

1050
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,880
Is it showing her like, is it...

1051
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,480
Hoopstone, no way!

1052
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,160
Yep, Jail, there you are.

1053
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,280
Well done, dude.

1054
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,080
Well done, dude.

1055
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,360
This is monumental.

1056
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:16,080
So let's see if I can, uh, present my...

1057
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,680
It's amazing.

1058
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:25,200
Uh, there you go.

1059
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,920
So yeah, how do you double sign with Horcrux?

1060
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,960
Proved.

1061
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,400
Here's the tombstone event.

1062
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,600
Yep, there you are.

1063
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,360
Well, you're missing like fucking crazy.

1064
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:33,760
That's it.

1065
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,840
So it's missing like crazy.

1066
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,760
Is it just missing or did you actually get...

1067
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,520
No, no, it must be tombstone.

1068
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,800
It says you're jailed, but is it, is it, are you actually tombstone though?

1069
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,280
Well, if I'm jailed, I'm tombstone because...

1070
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,160
I guess that's a pretty short period for, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1071
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,800
Like that, that was the, it had like perfect signing.

1072
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,800
So that's, this is about when I started it.

1073
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,760
This is how long it took.

1074
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,440
Did it do...

1075
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,320
Not long.

1076
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,120
Dropped a bit there.

1077
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,480
Just punching a row and then...

1078
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,120
Bang.

1079
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:01,840
Yeah.

1080
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:02,480
Wow.

1081
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,680
Oh, it says tombstone right in, uh, in Todd's dashboard.

1082
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,320
That's really handy.

1083
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:06,720
Look at that.

1084
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,560
All right, I might start spinning off.

1085
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,200
So look at that.

1086
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,120
It's helping me, isn't it?

1087
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:12,880
Toomstone.

1088
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,320
So don't restart every one second forever.

1089
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,360
Yeah.

1090
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,400
You know what I'm saying?

1091
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:18,960
Yeah.

1092
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,800
What, no, no, that proves it on say.

1093
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,120
It's really fast block time, but really good.

1094
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,040
So go on Juno mainnet.

1095
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:26,480
Yeah.

1096
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,600
Yeah.

1097
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,960
Do Juno mainnet next.

1098
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:30,400
Yeah.

1099
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,480
Or Juno testnet, you know, YOLO, whatever.

1100
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,200
Yeah.

1101
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,440
So that took about 10 minutes, I guess.

1102
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:35,760
Wow.

1103
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:36,400
Yeah.

1104
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,120
Good job.

1105
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:37,600
Well done.

1106
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,640
Way to, way to check it.

1107
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,160
So when you submit a bug report, are you just going to link this out?

1108
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,760
Yeah, it's about 45 minutes in.

1109
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,400
You'll find it.

1110
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,200
I think we showed the log on the screen.

1111
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:51,920
Maybe didn't.

1112
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,120
Anyway, cheers lads.

1113
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,440
I can find the log.

1114
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,240
I've got it right here.

1115
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:56,640
Well done.

1116
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,840
I was watching the log.

1117
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,120
Come on, get the log up.

1118
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,520
Let's have a look at, get your log out for the lads.

1119
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,200
I don't really want to.

1120
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,640
Let's have a look, see.

1121
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,600
Let's see the log.

1122
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,000
Come on.

1123
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,000
Oh, look, man, I don't know how to find it.

1124
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,800
Like that's, what was the time on the block?

1125
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,440
It was 2.49, 2 minutes 40, excuse me.

1126
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,680
The 49 minute mark, I don't know what it would be.

1127
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,360
21.49, 6 minutes ago.

1128
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,200
49, fuck, my logs might not go back that far.

1129
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,720
UTC baby, the only times I missed it.

1130
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,400
6 minutes?

1131
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,000
No, I just, it's not on the screen.

1132
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,360
How far could your log rotate?

1133
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,280
Well, yeah, just fucking get more.

1134
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,480
There's no reason logging anymore.

1135
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,360
You have nothing to log.

1136
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,400
You might as well kill it.

1137
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:38,880
Exactly.

1138
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,080
So what's the, how do you do that with the time thing?

1139
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:44,800
Because I never really.

1140
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,360
Journal control and then there's a man fucking live.

1141
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,120
There's a, there's a, you can do a, you can do a from on journal control.

1142
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,680
From and what's the time format?

1143
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,360
Give me one second.

1144
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,840
I mean, it's got to be I said.

1145
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:00,240
How's this?

1146
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,680
I mean, this is good fucking podcasting stuff right here.

1147
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,840
This is, so you can do, you can do.

1148
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:06,800
What am I doing now?

1149
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:12,720
Oh, sorry, you could do since dash, dash since and then do a quote and do like 10

1150
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:17,280
minutes ago, type it out and see if that works with quote, because it'll actually

1151
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,240
figure that out.

1152
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:20,560
So, uh, uh,

1153
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,640
journal control.

1154
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,600
Shit.

1155
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,040
Now, yeah, it's just, no, but.

1156
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,640
So it was just, man, it's spit out a lot.

1157
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,400
So for those who have been back on a podcast player and who can't obviously

1158
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:41,200
see what's up on the screen, who haven't been able to, what, what is, what has just happened

1159
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:48,640
here is null has successfully tombstone to Horcrux node on, uh, says Atlantic to, um,

1160
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,600
test net.

1161
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,360
We've got Todd's dashboard up.

1162
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,960
Shout out to Todd consistently awesome friend of the podcast.

1163
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,160
We've got his dashboard up.

1164
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,000
It says tombstone on there.

1165
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,720
It does.

1166
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:00,320
The notes very, very dead.

1167
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,600
It's very, very tombstone.

1168
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,840
And we're just, uh, you know, just, it's just your average site in game of

1169
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,360
notes where we're trying to get null to get his logs out for the land.

1170
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,920
I mean, it's always about the logs.

1171
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,920
No, do you have multiple nodes that the signage pointing to or just a single one?

1172
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:16,640
No, I'm multiple.

1173
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,200
Yeah.

1174
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:17,680
There's two.

1175
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:18,800
Uh, okay.

1176
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,960
I'm going to go see if I can tombstone since I'm only pointing at one.

1177
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:22,960
That's pretty good.

1178
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,080
Oh, so all that, all that's a good question.

1179
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,200
That's a good question actually.

1180
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:27,520
Right.

1181
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,240
Yeah.

1182
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:30,000
That's a good, that's a good additional test.

1183
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:36,000
So, um, say teams like what the fuck is going on?

1184
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,000
There's nobody left.

1185
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,120
Tombstone.

1186
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:39,520
Man.

1187
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,880
Why is everybody bullying our nodes?

1188
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,160
Hey, is this, who's this?

1189
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,920
Oh, this is mine.

1190
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,280
So this is, this is all I did.

1191
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,080
I just did the watch.

1192
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,360
Yeah.

1193
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,000
Sure.

1194
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,080
Watch that restart service.

1195
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:56,880
That's every second.

1196
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,040
So basically that's every two seconds.

1197
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Every two seconds, not every second.

1198
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,800
I thought I was going to fall in the chat.

1199
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:03,840
I lied in the chat.

1200
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,720
And then I couldn't be bothered to like fix it.

1201
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:12,720
So, uh, so I'm still trying to like make these logs come up.

1202
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,840
Not FU, not FU.

1203
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,120
You don't want FU.

1204
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:17,360
Yeah.

1205
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,560
FU be follow.

1206
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,080
You don't want, you don't want to follow it.

1207
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,480
You don't want.

1208
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,520
Oh, right.

1209
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,160
So that sense would replace all the dash FU stuff.

1210
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:25,040
Yeah.

1211
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:25,200
Yeah.

1212
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:25,360
Yeah.

1213
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:25,520
Yeah.

1214
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:25,600
Yeah.

1215
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:26,640
I think that's correct.

1216
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,200
I could be wrong.

1217
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,800
I haven't done this in a while, but I think that's,

1218
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,600
usually what it is.

1219
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:29,760
Yeah.

1220
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:30,240
There you go.

1221
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:31,200
That's 10 minutes ago.

1222
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,000
2150.

1223
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:32,240
Yeah.

1224
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:32,640
Look at that.

1225
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:33,120
Fucking A.

1226
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:34,480
50.

1227
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,400
So that's too far away.

1228
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,520
I'm not, that's too close.

1229
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:38,480
Oh yeah.

1230
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,840
50, do 15 minutes ago.

1231
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:40,320
Yeah.

1232
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,040
49.

1233
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:41,440
What was it?

1234
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,160
49 what?

1235
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:43,360
I thought we said,

1236
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,080
somebody replay the fucking tape.

1237
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:46,640
I thought it was,

1238
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,520
I thought you said 49.

1239
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,560
Well, you're getting pre-commits here.

1240
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:51,440
So it's after this, right?

1241
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:52,400
Yeah.

1242
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,160
I think this is about it.

1243
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:54,880
It's going to show.

1244
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,680
Hey, how can I make more lines print?

1245
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,640
Just space and print.

1246
00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:59,200
I'm going to the next page.

1247
00:52:59,200 --> 00:52:59,360
Yeah.

1248
00:52:59,360 --> 00:52:59,920
Okay.

1249
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:00,320
There you go.

1250
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,240
What are you talking about?

1251
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,000
We're laughing and learning.

1252
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,360
We're laughing and learning.

1253
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,480
We're laughing and learning.

1254
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,960
I mean, I don't use this functionality in,

1255
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:10,640
I always follow.

1256
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:11,760
Like, I don't use this in.

1257
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,320
No, that's okay.

1258
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,000
You can do like up and down and everything.

1259
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,200
It's just going to do everything.

1260
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,160
From 15 minutes ago to right now.

1261
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:18,560
Six.

1262
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:20,880
Six.

1263
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:23,520
Whop.

1264
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:24,720
I know it's stopping.

1265
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:25,600
3149.

1266
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,040
Six.

1267
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:27,600
26.

1268
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:27,840
Yeah.

1269
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,640
Every two seconds.

1270
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,160
Looks good.

1271
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,440
You're pre-booked and re-printing.

1272
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,400
Yeah, you're okay.

1273
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,160
We're still voting.

1274
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,280
We're still voting.

1275
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,720
It's not much, but it's honest work.

1276
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:40,240
This is truly the life of a validator.

1277
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:40,800
Like, huh?

1278
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:41,120
Okay.

1279
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:41,760
Something went wrong.

1280
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,240
A few times.

1281
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:42,960
I know.

1282
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:43,680
If you're listening in.

1283
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,280
This is good, honest, validator work right here.

1284
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,240
This is good podcasting.

1285
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:51,360
We're doing the closest to actual work I've done all day.

1286
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:54,400
Oh yeah.

1287
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,160
I could probably get a block on when you tombstone to.

1288
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:56,320
Yeah.

1289
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,160
Yeah. Does it say what the height was?

1290
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,120
Uh, I can take a look.

1291
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:01,040
This is good.

1292
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,240
This is good podcasting right here.

1293
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:05,120
It did say on Todd's sexy dashboard, didn't it?

1294
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:06,880
It did actually.

1295
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,600
Yeah.

1296
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:07,920
Yeah.

1297
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,840
For those, for those listening at home,

1298
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,720
we're just scrolling logs here looking for the event.

1299
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,120
Just try to matter what the fuck is going on here.

1300
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:19,600
Hey, this is fun.

1301
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,200
This is, I don't think I can.

1302
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,200
I'm turning validators just to feel alive.

1303
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:23,760
I love it.

1304
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,240
Yeah.

1305
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,600
This is actually my first ever tombstone.

1306
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,040
Oh, look at that.

1307
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:29,840
I'm live on stream.

1308
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,720
That's amazing.

1309
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:31,280
Congratulations.

1310
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,040
It's not even my first jailing.

1311
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,080
Thanks for doing it for the.

1312
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,760
Oh, I've gotten jailed before you kid me.

1313
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:36,880
Who gives a shit about jailing?

1314
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,720
I know you.

1315
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:40,880
I thought you jailed on a network early doors.

1316
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:42,720
Hey, I know you like.

1317
00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:43,280
We don't.

1318
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,000
We don't.

1319
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,680
You've been jailed on it and jailed and made it.

1320
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:46,160
Get the fuck out.

1321
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,960
You've been jailed on a lag two and dev three like a thousand times.

1322
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:49,520
What are you talking about?

1323
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,280
Yeah, I've never been jailed and made it.

1324
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:51,920
Oh yeah.

1325
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,920
I don't think well, I was an amix of that.

1326
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,680
But yeah, I mean, I think.

1327
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:56,560
Yeah.

1328
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:57,920
It's still testing.

1329
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,520
If we're counting test nas then I think I've double.

1330
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,040
I've never I've never double signed anything, but.

1331
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,680
So we've scrolled through about a thousand pages here.

1332
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,720
And so we've gone through about 1500 lines.

1333
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:13,680
I think you I think you're still.

1334
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,280
And it's all been in the same minute.

1335
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:16,720
Yeah.

1336
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:18,160
Yeah.

1337
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,040
I think it might still be if you dash FU it,

1338
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,640
it looks like it's still doing its job in terms of pre-signing,

1339
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,000
pre-commit even though you're jailed, right?

1340
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:27,680
So that.

1341
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,400
No, it's a signed vote, right?

1342
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,880
It shouldn't do that if it was.

1343
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,160
Is it showing sign vote?

1344
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,120
Yes, it's signed vote.

1345
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:37,200
Round zero.

1346
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,480
I don't know, but it's just a signer.

1347
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,000
Does the signer actually know if it's jailed?

1348
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:40,320
It doesn't.

1349
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,920
It's just getting a package and signing it, right?

1350
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:43,280
And I think so.

1351
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,080
I think it knows.

1352
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,840
Scrolling logs is a good bound name.

1353
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,240
Scrolling logs.

1354
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:54,880
Can you query the CLI for the unbonding block?

1355
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,080
God damn it.

1356
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:57,440
Come on, man.

1357
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,680
A former housemate had a band called the Flaming Block.

1358
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,280
You're pressing up and down the solution you can do.

1359
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,720
You had it go just command tab to Todd's thing.

1360
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:07,840
Because I think I think he had a bend.

1361
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,120
I can send you a fucking hat too.

1362
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,440
It doesn't say what blocky teams that none.

1363
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,920
Well, it should show the block of the current block that it's on,

1364
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,360
because you shouldn't be moving forward, right?

1365
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,840
In theory.

1366
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,280
Yeah, no.

1367
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,920
I mean, the other thing you can do is just look at the height.

1368
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:27,280
Because you know what height the double sign.

1369
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,760
The height's progressing because it's connected to someone else's.

1370
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,800
Yeah, but you know what height the double sign was,

1371
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,000
because it was on Todd's dashboard.

1372
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,640
No, it's not on Todd's dashboard.

1373
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,840
That height's progressing because it's connected to a...

1374
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,280
It's still connected to the RPC.

1375
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:42,480
Okay.

1376
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,440
I had the same thought.

1377
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,040
Oh, fuck, man.

1378
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:48,000
All right.

1379
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,160
So it would be query slashing, signing info.

1380
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,560
I got to find your fucking save all upper.

1381
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:54,960
All right.

1382
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:55,520
Give me a second.

1383
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,800
I just got to get into that node.

1384
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,000
This is good.

1385
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,320
This is good entertainment.

1386
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,600
This is content, man.

1387
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,480
This is content.

1388
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,320
I like how whenever Null got jailed,

1389
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,760
high tides validator got pushed into the active set.

1390
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,600
That's good stuff.

1391
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,840
Just printing, you're printing misses now.

1392
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:14,640
Yeah.

1393
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,440
I think so.

1394
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:18,080
All right.

1395
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,760
So you're all doing save Atlantic too, are you?

1396
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,240
Yeah.

1397
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:22,800
Yeah.

1398
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,200
So the two savants on the chat are both tombstone.

1399
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,240
Let's see, your developer...

1400
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,120
Oh, your cons pub.

1401
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,080
Fucking shit.

1402
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:34,880
One second, please.

1403
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:37,760
Holding.

1404
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,640
The fun sounds of somebody trying to cross work out

1405
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,320
all the various different addresses.

1406
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:44,800
I love it.

1407
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,840
I love that we have 10 different addresses.

1408
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:49,120
Here you are.

1409
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:50,960
I think it's very convenient.

1410
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,960
I mean, the thing is that every network has their own weird way

1411
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,000
of doing all the various stuff, and it's always a faff.

1412
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,920
It's almost like it'd be a lot easier if there was all this

1413
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,320
cryptographic nonsense in the middle of all of it.

1414
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,720
Man, where is it?

1415
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,840
Because the definition of it is sort of like needle in a haystack,

1416
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,120
but with a loaded revolver that's already gone off.

1417
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,240
I mean, I feel like it's going to be pretty uneventful

1418
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,720
when I find it anyway, because it's just going to be like

1419
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:19,920
it's signed and then it's signed.

1420
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:20,480
It's going to be like...

1421
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,360
What if we wrap the Byzantine behavior message?

1422
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:24,240
We could do that, right?

1423
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,160
From our logs, we could take our logs and pipe out

1424
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,560
the Byzantine behavior message, right?

1425
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,160
That's what I'm trying to find there.

1426
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:30,640
You could probably...

1427
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:31,440
Yeah, you could probably...

1428
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,960
Could you not do like say, sayDQ, evidence?

1429
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:38,800
Actually, would that...

1430
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,400
Yeah, what did...

1431
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,200
What was the...

1432
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,400
Because you can query the evidence, can't you?

1433
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,520
I can't remember the exact CLI command,

1434
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,040
but it was something like sayDQ...

1435
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,480
That's what I'm looking at.

1436
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,120
It's query-slashing-signing-info.

1437
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:55,920
But actually, you're looking at the wrong...

1438
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,040
I think you're looking at the wrong log,

1439
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,960
because I don't think Horcrux knows, right?

1440
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,560
It would only be in the node log.

1441
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,600
Horcrux doesn't know you're signing or double-signing

1442
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:03,920
or anything else.

1443
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:04,800
It has no fucking idea.

1444
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,080
It's just a signer.

1445
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,520
Go to the SAID log.

1446
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,120
Well, TMK knows.

1447
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,120
Well, the only thing we can see here is...

1448
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,160
Like the only thing we can see is that it's coded

1449
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,400
on the same block with different signatures.

1450
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,000
So we really need to know the block.

1451
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,360
I feel like that was directed at me.

1452
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,240
I'm trying to...

1453
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,560
It says invalid character S looking for beginning of valid.

1454
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:25,200
Fuck, man.

1455
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,680
If I had a same node, I'd SSH onto it right now,

1456
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,280
and I'd be pressing around with the command line.

1457
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,240
I'm on-slashing-info.

1458
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,600
It's just not coming up.

1459
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:32,080
I'm not sure...

1460
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,840
All right, let's just give up on this shit.

1461
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,960
It's tombstone.

1462
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:35,840
So...

1463
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,920
The grats are being out 10 minutes.

1464
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,800
That's like...

1465
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:39,840
There you go.

1466
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,480
Kids.

1467
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:41,120
No regurts.

1468
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,200
No regrets.

1469
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,000
And I'm sick of looking at logs.

1470
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,280
That's pretty boring.

1471
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,000
That's boring shit.

1472
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,920
Yeah, I wonder if I can check my node, actually.

1473
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:52,240
Yeah, that's good.

1474
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,200
So hopefully that signer will continue to run

1475
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,200
and keep those nodes at the head, though,

1476
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,160
so that I can fire up another.

1477
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,560
So just get straight back in the mass.

1478
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,760
What's your valid cons address?

1479
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:06,480
Do you know?

1480
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:07,360
Can you see that to me?

1481
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,480
Because I have the endpoint here that you can hit.

1482
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:11,120
I'll put it in...

1483
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,200
It's this one.

1484
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:14,800
It's put in private chat.

1485
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,240
Our Valkons is the pain in the ass one to get in it

1486
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,440
if you're not on the node.

1487
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,520
It's in the Explorer, actually.

1488
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:21,760
Yeah.

1489
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:22,960
It's where?

1490
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,560
It's in the Node Guru Explorer.

1491
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,160
They publish it, which is nice.

1492
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:28,720
Oh, do they?

1493
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:29,360
That's handy.

1494
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:30,480
Yeah, agreed.

1495
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:32,240
So...

1496
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,480
So other launches impending.

1497
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,320
Can we talk about Noble?

1498
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:38,720
Because the...

1499
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:41,920
Noble, the private app chain.

1500
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:43,360
FRN...

1501
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:46,800
Zed.

1502
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,600
Yeah, referenced in the title of this very podcast.

1503
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:52,720
Oh, you didn't.

1504
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:54,400
He did.

1505
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,760
Yeah, well, it was just there for the taking.

1506
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,200
Like, regardless of the fact that I haven't got any of those

1507
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,560
fucking takings, I don't know if you do.

1508
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,760
I hope that this tombstone is not going to, like,

1509
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,880
taint my good standing with, say...

1510
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,360
No, I think it's good stuff.

1511
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,720
Yeah, just yelp your way out of it.

1512
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:15,440
They're going to come on.

1513
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,560
They're going to be on the show, right?

1514
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:17,360
I know you reached out to them.

1515
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:18,160
I reached out to them, too.

1516
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:19,200
So they're going to come on.

1517
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:23,440
So we can walk them through how this is for science.

1518
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,440
Yeah, and we'll just say that...

1519
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,040
Oh, just remember that anybody who tombstones is automatically

1520
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,680
completely incompetent and should be banned.

1521
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,200
Straightaway, they have to do the long walk from Mega City One,

1522
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:37,840
and that's it.

1523
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,440
You know, that's how it works.

1524
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,200
Mega City One.

1525
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,280
You ever watch Drudge Dread?

1526
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,240
That's like...

1527
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:44,800
Oh, yeah.

1528
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:45,200
Yeah.

1529
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:45,920
Yeah.

1530
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,320
Man, I've watched some ass movies lately.

1531
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:50,400
There was a...

1532
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:52,480
I watched this...

1533
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,120
Let me tell you.

1534
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,520
I watched some ass at my time.

1535
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,920
I watched this movie yesterday.

1536
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,600
Look at him, bro.

1537
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:00,720
My father just...

1538
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,880
My father just arrived yesterday afternoon,

1539
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,200
and I watched this movie with her on Netflix,

1540
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,640
and it was total ass.

1541
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,360
Was he called The Shawshank Redemption?

1542
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,960
Because that film was rubbish.

1543
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,640
Yeah, I mean, that's like in the same league

1544
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:15,840
as Shin-Laz-Lister.

1545
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:16,320
Pretty shit.

1546
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:17,360
Shit.

1547
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:19,040
Shit.

1548
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,360
No, it was some fucking horror, and it was horrible.

1549
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:24,160
Oh.

1550
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,560
Oh, witch.

1551
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,560
I mean, there was a whole genre of horror, as you might...

1552
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,480
Oh, no, it's like some recent production of utter shit.

1553
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,360
Was it?

1554
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:36,800
I just got a name.

1555
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,920
Was it something good, like The Wicker Man, that's going to be like...

1556
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,640
No, it was like, oh, run away or something.

1557
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,880
Something fucking absolutely stupid.

1558
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,560
Parasite is to die for, though.

1559
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,040
It's a South Korean film that is...

1560
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,120
That won an Oscar.

1561
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:53,920
Fuck.

1562
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,120
It's a very niche...

1563
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,560
It's a little indie film that won an Academy Award.

1564
01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:58,960
Did it?

1565
01:02:58,960 --> 01:02:59,600
I didn't know that.

1566
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,040
Best film film, though.

1567
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:01,520
Yeah.

1568
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:02,480
And possibly the best...

1569
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:03,920
So that's cinema...

1570
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,320
I don't pay attention to the awards ceremonies,

1571
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,520
to be honest with you.

1572
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:08,480
You have to go look that up.

1573
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,920
I might have got it wrong.

1574
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,520
I think you got best cinematography.

1575
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,040
Bringing me back to my thing about

1576
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,800
if you just watched the best cinematography.

1577
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:22,400
Hey, did I like pre-Fusse this tombstone with that tagline?

1578
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:23,600
What do you mean?

1579
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,560
On the name here, Null and then the Skulls.

1580
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:27,760
Did I like pre...

1581
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:28,560
Wow.

1582
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:29,440
You thought about it.

1583
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:30,640
Just like the Rugmaster.

1584
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:31,520
Jeez.

1585
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:31,920
Yeah.

1586
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,560
I can see the future.

1587
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:35,680
I've preempted twice.

1588
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,680
If anyone's wondering why I keep looking off

1589
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,080
into the sky on the other side here,

1590
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:48,880
there's like a portrait 39, 34-inch ultra-wide.

1591
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,800
Just a distraction model there, as I used to call it.

1592
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,560
Well, it's absurd.

1593
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,720
Yeah, it's great for logs.

1594
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,640
Okay, so Parasite won four Academy Awards.

1595
01:03:58,640 --> 01:03:59,120
It won...

1596
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,480
Didn't win cinematography, so I'm wrong.

1597
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,320
My theory is up at it.

1598
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:05,840
It's shot and smoke is fucked.

1599
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:06,320
It's dead.

1600
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,960
They won Best Picture, Best Director,

1601
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,080
Best Original Screenplay,

1602
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:11,680
and Best International Feature Film.

1603
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:12,960
There you go.

1604
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:13,680
It deserves it.

1605
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:14,800
And the palm door, it can.

1606
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,360
So quite a lot of accolades there.

1607
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:23,600
But yeah, you should watch Parasite.

1608
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:24,640
Sure, see, that's right.

1609
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:25,760
Did you get a block?

1610
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:26,640
Sure, see.

1611
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:27,440
Yeah, that's the block.

1612
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,480
It's 484-0302.

1613
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,240
484.

1614
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,080
So, does anybody else...

1615
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,520
I don't even know if you can get it in the US,

1616
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,520
but have you heard of a Western series called The English?

1617
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,400
That I haven't heard of, but I am working on 1883 right now,

1618
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,320
which is basically a Western soap opera.

1619
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:50,800
It's great.

1620
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,160
That's the early version of...

1621
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,160
Yellowstone.

1622
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,400
Yeah, and while Null was over,

1623
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,960
he definitely dropped spoilers right at the very end.

1624
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,400
We had no idea what was going to happen,

1625
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:03,600
and then he was like, boom,

1626
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:04,800
that's when this is about to happen, right?

1627
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,440
And I was like, I guess it is, isn't it?

1628
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,960
He didn't even know it was a breakable to Yellowstone,

1629
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,160
and I'm like, oh, you see it?

1630
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,640
I'm like, oh, fuck, man, has this happened yet?

1631
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,080
I'm like, what? Has this major event happened yet?

1632
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,800
Yeah, and I was like, oh, shit, I'm just dropping spoilers.

1633
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:25,760
Oh, it hasn't?

1634
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,120
Okay, so I'm looking at my watched history in Netflix,

1635
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,040
and it's Better Watch Out, and it is...

1636
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,560
Okay, that sounds like a share film, to be fair.

1637
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,880
That's the title of a share film.

1638
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:39,840
It is...

1639
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:40,640
Art of Shit.

1640
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:41,680
Do not watch it.

1641
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:42,560
What's the name again?

1642
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:44,400
Better Watch Out.

1643
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,160
Better Watch Out.

1644
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,120
And this is like a Netflix production,

1645
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,160
so fuck you, Netflix, for making me watch that shit.

1646
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:52,480
Geez.

1647
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:54,160
Okay, but hold on.

1648
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,360
We can't just judge the name,

1649
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,640
because It Follows is one of my absolute favorite horror movies,

1650
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,880
and that's a pretty horrible name.

1651
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:02,880
IT Follows?

1652
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,400
Yes, IT Follows.

1653
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,520
It Follows.

1654
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,520
It came out in, I don't know, 2014, 2015, and...

1655
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,360
Was that a Netflix production?

1656
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,640
It was not a Netflix production.

1657
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,920
No, but it was like, it is an indie film, I do believe,

1658
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,200
and it's fantastic.

1659
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,480
That one I highly recommend.

1660
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,320
But there's a certain level of suspension of disbelief

1661
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:21,120
you have to take with it.

1662
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,440
Well, I mean, that's true of all movies, I guess.

1663
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,360
Got weirdly philosophical at the end.

1664
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,200
Then you have to remember that they're actually actors,

1665
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,720
but then you have to forget that.

1666
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,960
I mean, good coms, good coms.

1667
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,240
Such a fine line.

1668
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,160
It's a fine line, it's a fine line.

1669
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:45,760
But yeah, no, sorry, I would really, really very strong recommend

1670
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:46,480
for the English.

1671
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaking of things with a bad title, really bad title,

1672
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:52,560
was recommended to me, and I was like,

1673
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,240
yeah, that sounds like file under the list of things

1674
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:57,440
I'm never going to fucking watch.

1675
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:58,400
And they were like, it's a Western.

1676
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,200
I'm like, I don't get it, still file under the list of things

1677
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,160
I'm not going to fucking watch.

1678
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:06,560
And then, I think, yeah, it got nominated for a couple of BAFTAs, I think,

1679
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,040
and then actually did watch it.

1680
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:13,520
Almost like, it's very slow and very dark, and not much is happening.

1681
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,880
Stereotype, but yeah, this is my kind of jam.

1682
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,320
And then, yeah, it's very, yeah.

1683
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,440
You should have said Emily Blunt was in it, then I would have been all about it.

1684
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,440
But like it is basically, you know, Heart of Darkness,

1685
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,720
it's basically kind of like Heart of Darkness, but as a Western.

1686
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:32,560
Oh, interesting.

1687
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,720
You know, it's got that kind of vibe where, you know, just like Apocalypse Now,

1688
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,560
which is also a kind of retelling of Heart of Darkness.

1689
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:45,200
It's got a little bit of that going upriver to find out what the fuck happened.

1690
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:50,560
And like in this case, it's like, there's this little fucking town in the middle of nowhere,

1691
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:55,360
and there's this woman who's like, I guess like an impoverished English aristocrat,

1692
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,960
who's trying to go there across the West, and everybody's trying to fleece her and

1693
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,600
take her money and shit, and she's getting kind of angrier.

1694
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:06,720
And it's like, what are we going to find in this town?

1695
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,160
Why is she going there?

1696
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,800
What's the fucking deal here?

1697
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,640
And there's two stories.

1698
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,560
There's one which is a poor scout who's just been demobbed from the US Army,

1699
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,920
and then there's this aristocrat, and they kind of meet, and they're both sort of going

1700
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:22,960
in the same direction.

1701
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,600
And so it has this sort of two people on the same path,

1702
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,840
but not traveling together necessarily kind of thing.

1703
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,040
And also, yeah, the whole kind of heart of darkness, like what are they going to find

1704
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,760
at the head of the river kind of vibe to it?

1705
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:38,960
And it's good.

1706
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:39,440
It's good.

1707
01:08:39,440 --> 01:08:42,720
It's very, very dark and very, very, very, yeah.

1708
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,640
I guess I just like, I think, yeah, whatever.

1709
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,200
I basically went into it with no expectations, possibly that's why I think it was so good.

1710
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,800
Maybe if I went into it with super high expectations, I'd have been like, yeah, it was okay.

1711
01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:55,520
But yeah, I wasn't really surprised by that.

1712
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,840
It's the best thing to watch recently, that's for sure.

1713
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,600
And it doesn't hurt that much.

1714
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,600
Ramos, that was the best validator I saw.

1715
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,080
Yeah.

1716
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:07,280
How are you getting on with that log?

1717
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:08,720
How are you getting on with that log, Mel?

1718
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,320
I've only seen so many things recently.

1719
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,400
So I'm about out of movie chat.

1720
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,840
Wild Isles, the new David Attenborough.

1721
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:24,560
I don't think that's the block.

1722
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,400
It must be the block after that because it all signs 303.

1723
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:29,520
So it can't be 302.

1724
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:30,240
Yeah.

1725
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,800
So 302 seems to be fine.

1726
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,000
And then 303 is where it started.

1727
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:36,560
Yeah.

1728
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:41,040
303 you sign and 304, I don't see you in there, which I'm not sure if that's the block that you,

1729
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,000
but I don't see.

1730
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,120
It's not a transaction, right?

1731
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,400
So it doesn't show up as a transaction.

1732
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,960
So I was kind of looking through the logs.

1733
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,320
The 303 is interesting because it went into rounds.

1734
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,720
So it went round zero.

1735
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,280
So it did a pre-vote on 303.

1736
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:05,120
It restarted and then it pre-vote 303 with a different signature.

1737
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:10,720
And then it did a pre-commit on 303.

1738
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:11,440
What are you looking at?

1739
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:12,880
On both those.

1740
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,080
So I'm just looking at my logs.

1741
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:14,720
I'm both thoughts.

1742
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:15,200
Yeah.

1743
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:15,600
Okay.

1744
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,560
Yeah. So it did a pre-commit with the same signature.

1745
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,160
And then a, okay.

1746
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,440
And then it went to round one.

1747
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,440
So that was round zero.

1748
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:26,720
And then it went to round one.

1749
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:31,600
And it did a pre-commit and a pre-vote on one node.

1750
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:32,480
Okay.

1751
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:35,440
And then it says, okay.

1752
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:37,200
So error signing vote.

1753
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,760
So it did a regression on round one got to last step three.

1754
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:48,160
So then height 303, it did another signature on the local host.

1755
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,080
And then it restarted again.

1756
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:51,680
And then it was nuked.

1757
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,680
So it must be somewhere in those three lines.

1758
01:10:55,680 --> 01:11:00,880
That last one there, the sign vote again on 303 in round one.

1759
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:01,600
It did it twice.

1760
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,560
It did it once on the remote node and one on the local node.

1761
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:04,720
Yeah.

1762
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,760
That does suggest that that's the course of the problem.

1763
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,400
Is that somehow it was able to do that second.

1764
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:11,600
Yeah.

1765
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:12,080
Puzzle.

1766
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,000
Was it a proposal or a vague?

1767
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:20,640
Or it's waiting for a response that the node received the pre-commit.

1768
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,160
That's probably what it is.

1769
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,520
It sends it out and then it's restarted while like during that.

1770
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,000
It's waiting for like a little TCP act, right?

1771
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,760
Like some sort of response that the packet is done.

1772
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:36,800
And then it's outside of the state because it's literally in flight already.

1773
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:37,760
And then.

1774
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:38,240
Hang on.

1775
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:42,960
It's an error assigning the vote and then it's like voted again,

1776
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:44,560
but it had already voted.

1777
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,080
It just didn't get a confirmation by the way.

1778
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:46,800
You didn't get a confirmation.

1779
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:47,200
Yep.

1780
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:47,360
Yep.

1781
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:48,160
That's probably what it is.

1782
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:48,720
You're right.

1783
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,400
So that could be a couple of things.

1784
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:56,720
The way the services are closed, you can control the way like Unix and other types of

1785
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:57,440
services are closed.

1786
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,520
So in this sense, you would probably want to wait until you receive an act or you want to

1787
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:05,200
give it some sort of timeout on that closure to make sure that anything that's outbound

1788
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,640
has the ability to come back.

1789
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:06,880
Right.

1790
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,320
And so like that would be like, like you're just, you're just doing a system.

1791
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,920
You're just doing a system D restart, right?

1792
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,040
That's how you're doing.

1793
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:13,200
Yeah.

1794
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,600
It's just restarting the system D over and over and over again.

1795
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:15,840
Yeah.

1796
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,800
So that's system D that's programmable, right?

1797
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,240
And you would want to, you'd want to be able to make sure that that in that in the system

1798
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,760
D's not not like in your configure the system D like in the application itself,

1799
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:31,040
when it receives a system D shutdown that it's actually waiting for outbound returns,

1800
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,880
because it's shutting down so fast.

1801
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,480
Basically, it's not it's not waiting for even a TCP acknowledge.

1802
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:37,120
So.

1803
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:37,360
Yep.

1804
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:38,640
It's just saying I'm out of here.

1805
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:39,760
It just, it just quits.

1806
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:44,000
And so it never gets the act that, that the, so it doesn't know the package was sent or

1807
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,600
the packet was sent or it doesn't write it because it's not receiving received,

1808
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,520
received that the packet was received, right?

1809
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,920
So it doesn't think that the TCP packet was sent.

1810
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,080
And so therefore there you go and it shits the bed.

1811
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:54,720
That's crazy.

1812
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,000
That's a good, that's a good defect.

1813
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,800
I mean, I guess the solution is don't do that.

1814
01:12:58,800 --> 01:12:59,760
It's quite hard.

1815
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:00,000
Yeah.

1816
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,920
I mean, that's quite, I guess that's quite an easy, potentially quite an easy fix,

1817
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:09,600
but it's also easy to see why it would be forgotten about because the, the scenario in

1818
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:15,520
which you don't anticipate getting the response from that because the service is shut down

1819
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:20,880
and it's restarted and as recent would require it to be moving pretty quickly.

1820
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:22,240
Yeah.

1821
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,040
The question is, I don't, I don't know if there's a system to control for actually,

1822
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,680
would you manually restart a service for it to put a pause in?

1823
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,880
I'm just, you can do an automatic restart pause.

1824
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,760
Like that's pretty easy to do, but I don't know if you can actually do anything

1825
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:39,040
where like, Hey, I just, I just run a, you know, restarting system D and system D knows to hate

1826
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,280
that when this process stops to pause for X seconds.

1827
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:43,520
Right.

1828
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,200
But the fix is in the software, isn't it?

1829
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,520
To just say what it shouldn't, yeah.

1830
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:47,760
Yeah.

1831
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:52,800
If it's, if it's when it starts, it shouldn't be doing that behavior in the case that these,

1832
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:58,960
I guess, God, there's actually, well, there's a bit of a, there is a solution there, but it is.

1833
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:00,640
This is different.

1834
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:01,200
This is different.

1835
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,640
What happened to Kroos and this, by the way?

1836
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:03,520
I don't know if it is.

1837
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:09,680
Cause he signed one and then it restarted and then he signed it.

1838
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:10,320
Same one again.

1839
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,800
This one's got a regression with a different node.

1840
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,200
His, his didn't have a regression in it.

1841
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,280
But again, that could be, that could be related to not receiving the app, right?

1842
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,320
So this signature, by the way, is the same.

1843
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,000
So the 303 signature is the same.

1844
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,320
So the step regression, see that, that looks like the node replied with,

1845
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:35,120
like that, that the node actually received the receipt on a different round.

1846
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:36,000
I don't know.

1847
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:36,800
Yeah.

1848
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,560
Cause it went to rounds either though, but the round, why would the rounds go that fast?

1849
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,720
You're doing this like literally in milliseconds, right?

1850
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,520
Well, there is, there is like a lot of round ones.

1851
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,240
If you watch the say logs, there's a lot of round ones.

1852
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:53,600
So this might be a say thing because it, it's so fucking fast that it's, uh, it does lots of wild

1853
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:53,840
shit.

1854
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:54,640
Yeah.

1855
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,080
But, uh, anyway, that's fascinating.

1856
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,120
That's pretty cool.

1857
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,120
I mean, again, yeah, that's a good question.

1858
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:01,840
I don't know if this is a say thing.

1859
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:06,000
I don't, we were talking about, um, trying out a different test net and try something

1860
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,720
that's not at 300 millisecond blocks, but that would be interesting to try to.

1861
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:13,840
So just like, yeah, try it on a different test net and restart the thing like every

1862
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,160
fucking quarter second or something.

1863
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:17,680
Right.

1864
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:20,560
Right.

1865
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:24,560
Hey, hey, the fray, will you vouch for me if I tombstone on Juno?

1866
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:25,600
Yeah.

1867
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:30,560
I mean, I think, I think most of us tombstone back on the Astarty days.

1868
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,040
So you're like, I mean, you can do stone on main bed.

1869
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,560
It's not going to cost you much at the moment either.

1870
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:36,880
It's five Hertz.

1871
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,800
Call me an ambulance.

1872
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:41,280
I'll read it.

1873
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:42,800
I'll get myself stakes to someone else.

1874
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:43,680
Then tombstone.

1875
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:44,000
Yeah.

1876
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:44,480
Just sight.

1877
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:44,800
Yeah.

1878
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:45,120
There you go.

1879
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:45,840
Yeah.

1880
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,520
I managed to get that meme totally wrong.

1881
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:48,400
What is it?

1882
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,320
Cool, cool, an ambulance.

1883
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,080
And then he pulls the gun and.

1884
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:53,360
What?

1885
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:54,800
You know the.

1886
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:57,760
No, no, I don't.

1887
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:02,240
You know the meme, the meme, there's like a guy getting robbed like an old man.

1888
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,280
He's like, oh no, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, an ambulance.

1889
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:08,560
And then the mug is like, huh?

1890
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:12,960
Like, like he's having a heart attack and then the old man goes, but not for me.

1891
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,480
And he pulls out like a shotgun or something.

1892
01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:17,200
Okay.

1893
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,840
It's like this, it's like this meme format.

1894
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,240
So memes are this thing that kids use.

1895
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,160
Actually, memes are this thing where millennials use the kids use fucking TikTok, don't they?

1896
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:26,960
I'm sorry.

1897
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,120
The freighter, did you say something like controversial?

1898
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:30,640
What's what's Rama talking about here?

1899
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,320
I just said you can tombstone a mainnet and it won't cost you.

1900
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:37,360
It won't cost you much.

1901
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:37,600
Oh, hi.

1902
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,080
It's just factually correct.

1903
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,840
Like in the grandest scheme of things, it's going to cost you what about $500?

1904
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,760
If you've got a hundred thousand stake, something like that.

1905
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:47,040
Brutal.

1906
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,680
What's the, what's the, what's the slashing per hour mainnet?

1907
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:50,400
Is it 5%?

1908
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:51,600
I think it's 5%.

1909
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:52,240
Yeah.

1910
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:52,480
Okay.

1911
01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:55,200
So it's going to cost you $5,000 if you, if you've got a hundred thousand.

1912
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:59,840
I mean, five grand might not be much for a big shot like needlecast.

1913
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,240
King knows $500 on the fucking line of poverty.

1914
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,160
It's, you know, that it puts us under.

1915
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,640
It's about, it's, it's a handful of days before the end of the tax year.

1916
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:14,080
So I think it depends whether the slashing would count as a, as an income loss.

1917
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:15,840
Oh, it's a taxable event.

1918
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,880
It's a taxable event then.

1919
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,320
It would be sad because it would basically come out of employee payroll, but we'll just,

1920
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,600
we'll just tell all the interns that they're going to have to fight each other for them,

1921
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,240
for their pay.

1922
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:27,440
It'd be easy peasy.

1923
01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:31,440
Ben Davis says, core one is noticed, you know, price at last only took a year.

1924
01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:32,720
It's not, that's not fair.

1925
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:33,760
That's not fair.

1926
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:34,160
It's funny.

1927
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:34,880
I mean, it's fair.

1928
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,240
I mean, it's, it's actually fair.

1929
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:39,840
We've got an update.

1930
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,520
Did you do that?

1931
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:41,840
No.

1932
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,160
Almost more interesting.

1933
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:48,000
So they've already done, the strange law team has already done analysis on it.

1934
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,200
And they think they've found the issue with it and they are going to remove

1935
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,320
Horcrux having single signer mode in the next release.

1936
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:54,640
Boo.

1937
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:57,280
Digen Horcues.

1938
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:58,320
No, I was like, wait a minute.

1939
01:17:58,320 --> 01:17:59,840
That's my interview.

1940
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:01,280
That's not the output we want.

1941
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:01,520
What?

1942
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:04,960
That is not a solution.

1943
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:06,960
That is not a fucking solution.

1944
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,640
Well, before we decide that the dollars use case should not be supported.

1945
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:11,760
That's fucking awful.

1946
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,200
I'm going to take it out.

1947
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:14,080
That's bullshit.

1948
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,120
That's not a solution.

1949
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:20,080
I can sign with a single signer on say, I cannot with a raft.

1950
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,880
But I mean, the problem doesn't, it doesn't exist if you don't just fucking rapidly

1951
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,080
restart the thing anyway.

1952
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:32,560
Just put a, add a, add a time out, add a thing that, you know, knows, it knows the state.

1953
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,960
Like just add a thing that looks at the state and then skips a block before it starts trying

1954
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:37,920
to sign again.

1955
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:38,400
Yeah, I agree.

1956
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,120
I think there's other ways you can solve this.

1957
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:41,680
Horcrux.

1958
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:46,560
I think, I think now it's time for you to finally elevate.

1959
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:47,200
Yeah, there you go.

1960
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,240
Maintainer, the maintainer of Horcrux Classic.

1961
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,360
Yeah.

1962
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,520
Degen Horcrux Classic.

1963
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:55,200
Horcrux.

1964
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:02,800
It's the greatest drama in the Horcrux community between Horcrux and Horcrux Classic.

1965
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,640
We'll see, we'll see how it works out for both camps, huh?

1966
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:07,520
In five years time.

1967
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,680
Now the question is, can there be IBC Horcrux?

1968
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:14,240
Then it could be a Horcrux app chain.

1969
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,480
You got to pay to keep your nodes alive.

1970
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:18,240
What, what was that?

1971
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:27,120
Was that the signal chat or was that the, this is like a chat in Twitter telegram.

1972
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,320
What, what, what chat was that?

1973
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,760
Chillsy, where you saw that?

1974
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:30,160
Yeah, let me add.

1975
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:31,280
Is that the telegram one?

1976
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:32,400
Yeah, let me add you to it.

1977
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:37,840
One of 75 different communication methods.

1978
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,280
I wonder what, I wonder why single node, would this be a single node issue?

1979
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,400
I think it has to do with like, if A, yeah, you're in it.

1980
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:47,200
What's the name of it?

1981
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:48,000
The chat?

1982
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,600
I'm gonna wave at you as you can see it.

1983
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:50,320
Nulls bullshit.

1984
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,400
But it's called Horcrux Hangout.

1985
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:53,840
Oh, that's it.

1986
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:58,000
So I think if you have multiple signers, like the odds of all of them are starting at the

1987
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,840
exact same moment, I think is, is where the issue is, right?

1988
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:05,840
So like if one node restarts for multi signer, then it'd be totally fine.

1989
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:06,320
Yeah.

1990
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,480
But yeah, yeah, that's what I was asking.

1991
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,960
So if you have infinite nodes, you can never double sign.

1992
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:13,600
That's right.

1993
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,560
And you'll also never sign a block.

1994
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,800
So you'll, because the latency between them will be too high.

1995
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,240
So you'll finally achieve the platonic perfection of validation.

1996
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,640
Schrodinger's crux.

1997
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,720
Schrodinger's, yeah, it's all getting a bit.

1998
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:31,440
Yeah.

1999
01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:32,560
I guess that makes sense with the raft.

2000
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:36,800
If you never sign, if you never sign, is that our perfect signatures?

2001
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,080
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense with the wrap.

2002
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,360
I guess the, that's not, I don't know if that's a solution of the signing piece,

2003
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,840
or it just means that you can't do it all at the same time.

2004
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,120
So therefore it wouldn't happen.

2005
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,880
The solution is, is if you never sign, you can never sign twice.

2006
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:49,680
That's right.

2007
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,680
That's, that's exactly what I'm getting at here.

2008
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:52,240
Yeah.

2009
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:56,640
But so just, you know, you don't actually have to sign anything to be a validator.

2010
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,800
You just have to be able to cover the slashing cost.

2011
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:03,200
So it's just on jail, like, you know, Cronjob on jail.

2012
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,520
And every 10,000 blocks.

2013
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:06,080
And you got to, well,

2014
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,720
Chill validation had a really cool signing idea for a validator.

2015
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,320
Really, you don't even need to see a node.

2016
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,840
You can just consume what everyone else is signing and see which one has signed the most

2017
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:20,000
and just send back that same signature and be like, boom, I agree.

2018
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:21,920
Then you gave a light, a light validator.

2019
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:24,240
A light node.

2020
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,960
It's just a relay back to where it came from.

2021
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:27,760
Yeah.

2022
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:31,680
And then, yeah, you could probably do that just like on Cronkat.

2023
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:32,960
Don't even need to run anything.

2024
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,760
Cronkat a fucking thing going back.

2025
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:37,760
Uh-oh.

2026
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:39,360
Maybe.

2027
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,720
It's like a whole set is just echoes of the same signature.

2028
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,320
There's only one dude doing it.

2029
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,080
Well, on the logical conclusion, right?

2030
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,360
There's only the one person actually signing and then everyone else just echoes it out.

2031
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:49,920
Yeah.

2032
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,080
I see the same, I see the same signature.

2033
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:52,320
Wow.

2034
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:53,520
I see the same thing.

2035
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,760
I mean, that would be like, like,

2036
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,320
peak decentralization theater, wouldn't it?

2037
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,200
If it just turns out everybody's just echoing the same one.

2038
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:02,320
It's like Twitter.

2039
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:03,680
It's kind of what we're already doing.

2040
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:04,160
Yeah.

2041
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:05,680
I mean, yeah.

2042
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:10,720
Where we're at right now is very much the theater comedy.

2043
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:18,880
It's the pre, although it was, I mean, was FTX like the dot-com boom or dot-com crash moment

2044
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,080
for probably not.

2045
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,000
It's probably going to be a lot worse, isn't it?

2046
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,360
There's no way that was bad enough.

2047
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:28,000
I mean, really, it's kind of disturbing if things are already going to get worse from here on out.

2048
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,600
Is that like, what better, depending on your view?

2049
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,040
We've said there has to be a compelling event that's going to change the trajectory.

2050
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:36,800
So we'll see when Noble launches.

2051
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:41,760
I'm curious on what native USDC does if that is a input or an output.

2052
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:49,520
Like, getting away from that, like having that be an extremely frictionless bridge, if you want to call it that,

2053
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,760
is that going to be a good idea?

2054
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:58,160
If you want to call it that, is that going to increase the amount of individuals in the cosmos?

2055
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,000
Or is that going to make an effect?

2056
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:04,000
I think it's a good compelling event that should hopefully change something.

2057
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,760
Well, it's interesting as well, because I guess there's a lot of TVL already locked around other

2058
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:14,560
bridged USDC, like Axelar, USDC and stuff, and like that's what a lot of other chains have used.

2059
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:21,360
So there'll be a question, I guess, whether or not liquidity migrates in that direction, like is in Noble.

2060
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:27,360
But if that value is locked, or if it's in like, you know, DeFi protocols, where there's like a more

2061
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,960
long-term locking mechanism or something like that, it'll be interesting to see if that actually

2062
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:37,120
does migrate, what pace it migrates at, because that could be like a serious barrier for adoption,

2063
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:38,160
you'd have thought.

2064
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:42,720
Everybody agrees that bridges are, I mean, we want to be able to be in the IBC world, right?

2065
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:47,040
So the long term is that we would hope that IBC does replace that structure.

2066
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,160
And so, like, it's a good thing that that's happening, right?

2067
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,520
Like that's a positive, it's not a negative that that value's going away.

2068
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:59,600
I guess it's just like the question of how long it takes or whether, and also whether or not,

2069
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,840
like, Noble is the solution that will...

2070
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:02,800
Well, that's a question, yeah.

2071
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,600
Because there's also, well, yeah, I don't know.

2072
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:12,000
I think it's one of those where, especially in my current sleep deprived state, I'm not sure,

2073
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:17,040
I wouldn't be qualified to talk about it at the best times really, although I will.

2074
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:21,680
But doubly so in current situation, whether or not it is actually the best way of...

2075
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,920
It's the difficulty of like a stablecoin like that.

2076
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,920
There's also from a different ecosystem, like how you can build the incentives around it

2077
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:34,720
in such a way that it is going to work and take market share when there's not a situation

2078
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:35,680
where there is...

2079
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:40,160
Where people are like, I guess the things there are enough DeFi protocols that need a stablecoin,

2080
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:45,200
but like where we currently are right now is basically it's builders and super enthusiasts.

2081
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:49,520
Again, we're kind of back to that level of users and super enthusiasts probably,

2082
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,200
and then super D gens on the other hand, there are definitely some hardcore D gens who are just

2083
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:54,560
still keeping the faith.

2084
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,680
But whether or not it's the right time to be evaluating new technology and whether or

2085
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,600
not it can achieve product market fit, that is like an open question, I would say.

2086
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,160
A bit longer term.

2087
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,320
That piece is more longer term, right?

2088
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:12,400
Like, I think there's time to define that last one, but I'm hoping for some...

2089
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,160
Like there needs to be eyeballs and we want to be able to have...

2090
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:20,160
There's good usability and there's good application, so it'd be nice to be able to have...

2091
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:26,720
I'm hoping IBC and the ease of USDC coming in changes some controls there.

2092
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,800
I also think it actually takes a huge piece of value out of the atom, but that's different.

2093
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,120
So the atom is...

2094
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:38,480
If you want to say the atom's a hub and that's the way to get into Cosmos, is it now?

2095
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:44,080
Isn't USDC winning the stablecoin? Be the way to do that.