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as well the 45 the 45 the 45

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84 px is basically a 79 50

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x um and then going down

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from there the 44 64 I

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think is a 70 79 something

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and then it goes down from

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there 315 rc dollars fuck me

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welcome to game and nodes a

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weekly book a week a week

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you try again blockchain on

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the podcast by tired

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validated days what the was

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I going for then oh you

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rugged us what's a tired

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validator node I mean yeah

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I mean some of them are

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pretty tired yeah the one

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that you're running 1700 nodes on

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The servers, the servers never get tired.

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Do they?

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It's just the validators.

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No, they get, they get tired.

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His hard drives get tired, man.

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To be fair,

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actually that stress net where

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we literally had that box

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that we fully destroyed.

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Like it was unresponsive.

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You can even like fucking ping it.

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That was what I feel.

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Sorry.

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Like that box was,

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It did a shit job, right?

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And it died, and it deserved to die,

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and it deserved to stay down.

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What I feel sorry for,

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what I deeply regret,

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is whether there was any

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thermal damage to the servers around it.

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Probably not.

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Who gives a shit?

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Seriously.

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All that stuff to them is disposable.

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It doesn't matter.

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It doesn't matter.

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And

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I'm pissed if we didn't get

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the service that we

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required on that fucking box.

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Somebody else was probably

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hosting their mom and pop

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cookie shop on Drupal or

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something on the box next to us.

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They couldn't do any...

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congratulations cards or

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whatever it is you know

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because we would do

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degeneracy on the rack next

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to them like that I feel

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sorry for like maybe it was

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like um I don't know

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something wholesome like an

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animal sanctuary and they

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just had to put down all

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those dogs usurper

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because we were doing

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degeneracy on the adjacent rack.

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Those dogs.

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People were like,

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we need to drop off these

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dogs with you today.

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If we don't, immediate injection.

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The server's down.

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Why?

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The server's down.

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We don't have any backups

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apart from this mid-tier

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data center in Europe.

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It said it's melted.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.

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I feel like this, this,

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this is probably like a thing that,

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you know,

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like the Simpsons already did it

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type thing.

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I feel like this is one of those,

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like there must be a

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Simpsons plot line that has

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already used that joke.

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Isn't wait,

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isn't that a joke with the

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Santa's little helper too,

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or something where they, they're like, Oh,

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these dogs are cute.

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And they're like,

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there better be any of the

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ones that don't get taken today,

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get to put down or something like that.

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Something like that.

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That feels like a Simpsons

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joke or whacking day.

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uh yeah yeah snakes come out

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and when he comes out with

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a huge handful of dead

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snakes what's wrong with

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you people because first

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they're cheering for him

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and then they realize that

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whacking day is bad because

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lisa goes after him and he

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comes out with this huge

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thing he's like got a

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tribal shit on I'll never

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understand you people you

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you promised me dog or better

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Quimby's a fucking awesome character.

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He's such a good character.

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Why did he appear less in the show?

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Was he voiced by somebody

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who died or something?

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I don't know, actually.

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I could look.

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I don't know.

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He's still around, right?

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I thought he was even in the recent ones.

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Yeah, maybe he is.

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The Kennedy meme never gets old, right?

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I always forget who the

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people are that are voiced

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by Derek Smalls.

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oh yeah yeah yeah that's um

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I feel like maybe marge and

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krabappel something like

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that I don't know quimby is

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is voiced by um castanel

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castaneleta whose name is

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homer and everybody else

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right um I don't remember

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who god you know it's never

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occurred to me before but

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some of the voice actors

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from the simpsons must be

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the most loaded people oh yeah

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Because they not only do one character,

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but they do multiple

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characters where they're

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completely irreplaceable.

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Yeah.

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And some only do one, right?

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Like, I think there's a bunch that, like,

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Dan does a bunch, and I think, like,

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Nancy Cartwright, who does Bart,

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does a bunch.

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But some of them just do one.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, fucking hell, yeah.

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Nancy Cartwright must have

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made a few bucks off of,

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especially during all the

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Do the Bartman and all that

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sort of stuff.

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You just get them right, left,

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right and centre.

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Anyway, how are you fellas doing?

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You see Null's fan?

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It's hot, I'm guessing.

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It's not that hot,

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it's just that I forgot to

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turn it off yesterday,

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so it's still spinning.

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Do you want me to turn it off?

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Is it distracting?

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It's not?

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No?

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It's okay.

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No, it's fine.

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It's an audio podcast,

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so really nobody can finish it.

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I mean, it's the stream.

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There might be some people

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going into epileptic fit right now.

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There's nobody watching the stream.

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Hey, there's some viewers.

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Oh, let's be fair, you know.

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There is one viewer watching the show.

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It's probably either Rama or Serb.

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I don't know how that is

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because there's four people

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commenting in the... We

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survive another week,

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says Rama in the chat.

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You might have survived the week,

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my friend.

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Wow.

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And he's speaking for all of us.

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I mean, we're still here.

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We are demonstrably all still here.

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Uh, and we've got,

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we even got film

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recommendations in the chat.

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Funky says watch Furiosa at the weekend.

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Pretty decent is, is pretty decent.

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Like, uh, is that a light seven,

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a strong seven, a light eight.

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You know, these,

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these are important distinctions, decent,

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decent, different, different people, man.

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Max.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You seen it?

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Nope.

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I haven't.

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I saw the, uh,

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I saw the bike riders last week.

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That was, um, you know, the,

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it's the motorcycle gang one with, uh, uh,

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the guy that's in, um,

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Yeah, I watch Tom Hardy.

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Tom Hardy.

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It's got Tom Hardy.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Tom Hardy in it.

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And yeah, it's really like, you know,

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you know,

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every time you watch Tom Hardy

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in a film and he's killing it.

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And then there's that moment

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in the film where you're like, holy shit,

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I'm watching Tom Hardy and

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he's so good at this role.

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I forgot it was Tom Hardy.

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And then you remember that

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you're watching Tom Hardy

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for the rest of the film.

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it has that because you're

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just like damn he's really

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good but then at some point

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you'd remember it again and

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then you're like you can't

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forget it um very well

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acted though I thought I

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thought it was pretty good

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like it was a weird I i

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would recommend it it was a

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weird kind of I wasn't

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really sure where it was

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going you know what I mean

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because it there wasn't

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like a like there wasn't

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like it wasn't really

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obvious where that story

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was headed yeah I thought um

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then the good description

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the good description I

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heard of it was that the

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trailer is not the film the

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trailer and the poster in

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the and the box art make it

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out to be yeah it is

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something different and

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when I heard that

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description from a

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prominent movie critic I was like

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yeah okay that pretty much

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that pretty much sums up

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the film because it

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absolutely was not the film

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that I thought it would be

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and it's hard to say what

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what the fuck it was

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actually but I would reckon

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but I would recommend it

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like I it was a really good

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portrait of a group of

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people at a point in time

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and how that changes like I

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guess I don't know that's

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how I would yeah

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Yeah, and Norman Reedus is in it, which is,

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he's a good actor, like,

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from the West Coast group.

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That was pretty cool.

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Yes, yes, he is.

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Yeah, he plays, what's his face,

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doesn't he?

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Yeah,

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I don't remember what the hell his

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name is.

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The name of the guy is, like,

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Fun Time or something, isn't it?

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Yeah, yeah.

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And Austin Butler, like, the main guy,

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I don't know if I've seen him before,

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which was... He was in Dune.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right,

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right.

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Plays Fade Ralph, though.

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Yep.

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But, I mean, admittedly,

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you wouldn't recognize him

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as Fade Ralph because of

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all of the makeup and stuff.

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Oh,

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and he was also in Once Upon a Time in

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Hollywood.

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I missed that.

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Oh,

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the dude who gets the fucking can to

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the face.

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Yeah.

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Funky says Elvis as well.

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Hmm.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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There you go.

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Good movie.

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I would recommend it.

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The Bike Riders.

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Yep.

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Yes, that's the last film I saw this week.

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And obviously have a couple

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of my friends who I watched.

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Achilles.

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What was that film?

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Robot Jocks.

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Robot Jocks.

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The lads who I watch Robot Jocks with.

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I realized I haven't seen Samurai Cop.

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So that's all queued up.

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ready to ready to watch at

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some point soon what a film

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I haven't seen that in

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forever I know I've seen a

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lot so good like we we

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literally I was trying to

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sell them to sell it to one

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of them it's like I i don't

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know and I was like it's

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like this is definitely

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your thing he's like yeah

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because he was literally

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just in my house I was like

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I'm gonna just show you I'm

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just gonna put it on the

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first five minutes of the

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movie I know you've got to

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go you literally he worked

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shift job and he was

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literally just like in my

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house having a cup of tea

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before he went to work i

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And I was like,

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I can tell this to you in three minutes,

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guarantee it.

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Within two minutes, the film was starting.

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He was like...

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yeah, yeah, yeah.

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This is, this is my shit.

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This is my shit.

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You're right.

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Like the line was something like,

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it was like,

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we've got to go get some bad dudes.

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And it was just, and you're just like,

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this is just so badly read.

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And then I think the bit

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that sold it was they're

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like leaving the police

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precinct and they get on

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the radio and they say like to,

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to somebody like, Hey, where are you?

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And then it cuts to like

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somebody in a police

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helicopter and they're just

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landing and they go like, Oh, Hey guys,

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we're just landing.

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And they're like,

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Don't land!

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It's just like... It just

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doesn't make any sense at all.

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They just shout at the

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people in the helicopter.

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Don't land!

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Go to this other place.

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It's like, they're in a helicopter, dude.

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What the fuck are you on about?

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It's funny.

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The writing.

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Oh my god.

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It's amazing.

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Anyway... Yeah.

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I'm already excited.

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I'm already excited about that.

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It's going to happen in my weekend.

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So...

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know cosmos may be the

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cosmos the other ecosystems

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may be the other ecosystems

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but this weekend praise

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watching samurai cop after

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having handed in the latest

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draft of this paper so did

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they did you get your 20 um

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your 20 required survey

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submissions that was quote

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unquote your minimum

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I don't know.

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Yeah.

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I think it's going to squeak over.

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I think it's going to squeak over.

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Because I haven't checked it

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since the end of the

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working day because I've

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been putting a baby to bed and et cetera,

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et cetera, et cetera.

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So at that point,

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I think including partial responses,

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I think it might have been 21.

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So I think we might have squeaked.

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Oh, good.

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That's what you needed, right?

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yep what were you hoping for

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what were you expecting

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honestly I i put 20 because

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I was like if we have less

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than 20 it's completely

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non-meaningful and but but

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honestly I was not

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expecting I was expecting

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to get maybe 21 22 I didn't

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okay all right then then

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you hit the mark i

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yeah I mean I i think like

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if if I've been able to do

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this when I originally

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wanted to and we had access

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to more stuff somebody's

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got discord open by the way

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I know it of course it's

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fucking now I'm gonna be

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I'm gonna be hours not mute

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not your stupid discord

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notifications richard j

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that nobody cares about

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like you're getting what

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chihuahua notifications

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nope fucking make it stop

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Nobody gives a shit.

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I don't know how to make it stop.

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How do you turn off the

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fucking notification?

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You quit.

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How are you?

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Does this one happen all day?

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How do you get anything done

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if that thing's beeping at

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you four seconds because

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somebody posted their airdrop bullshit,

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whatever the fuck it is.

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James is the same way.

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Every time we have a meeting,

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it's just constantly bloop, bloop, bloop.

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I'm like, that's completely meaningless.

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You have no idea which one

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is actually worth listening to.

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Dude,

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I'm just going to send you an MP3 of

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Discord notifications going

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off for 12 hours continuously.

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I'm going to make a YouTube

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channel of Discord

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notifications going off

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every 1.1 to 3 seconds,

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and you can just put it in

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the background so you can sleep.

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It's like a white noise for you.

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That'd be very nice, actually.

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Just Discord and Telegram notifications.

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He's about to get a whole

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new source of white noise.

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He's about to get a whole

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new different source of white noise.

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I just turned it off.

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I just turned it off.

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Does it please you?

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Yeah.

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It's like a social norm.

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So you, what you,

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you just don't have discord

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notifications at all.

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Well,

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I have it on ham because I have it

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going through the speakers,

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but when we're on this call,

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I turn that all the way

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down to zero because

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there's a level of professionalism.

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How are you turning it to zero, though?

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I have an external amp.

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It's going through an amp.

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Oh, you've got headphones.

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Yeah.

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You've got your cans.

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Gotcha.

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Why do you have them on at all?

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You only need to check

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Discord three times a day.

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You check it when you get it

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in the morning.

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You check it at lunch.

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You check it before you

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clock off and then have

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page duty for out of hours.

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Because I try to beat Audrey

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with the reactions.

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Who?

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sorry andre audrey andre I

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think it's andre come on

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notes guru impossible you

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can't beat him that's a bot

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I just said I just said to

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him on slack I said you

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must have a fucking bot man

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there is no way that you

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can be awake 24 hours a day

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and fucking reacting to

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those things so quick I'm

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sure that that's fucking I

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know I agree with it in in

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like every channel too

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Every channel on every social platform,

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just fucking little guru reaction.

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Well, I mean, it'd be very, very,

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very simple.

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I mean, well,

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simple in the grand scheme of

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things to write a bot that

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just every time it sees a

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response in a given channel,

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just thumbs up, thumbs up.

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You should have on the

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website a little thing down in the footer,

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like reaction count 1 million.

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one well for that for for

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them yeah it'd be pretty

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high their reaction the

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reaction rate is pretty

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pretty solid pretty quick

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nice um so do you respond

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every one of those

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discordians just throw a

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little little crown in

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there crown crown crown

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crown he's already chained

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out yourself but he's

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already looking at the

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score did you mute sorry

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what did you guess as well

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This is like, you know,

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that scene in the social

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network where the lawyery guy is like,

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I'm sorry, Mr. Zuckerberg.

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Do I have your full attention?

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No, you do not.

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Do you think I deserve your

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full attention?

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No, you do not.

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Except that, you know,

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Noel might be even less

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likable than Mark Zuckerberg.

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Oh, that's not true.

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Oh, poor little Nullo.

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Oh, he's out in his little fan room.

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What the fuck are you on about, man?

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I'm just trying to live my life.

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One notification at a time.

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Notice how the notifications

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have been muted.

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Yeah, I appreciate it.

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Nice.

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Nice chow.

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It's like the minimum level.

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so much so much stuff to do

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and so little time um

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notifications can't help

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with that surely no

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actually it is very

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distracting I do take time

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out from my busy schedule

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to fucking text people on

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that shit oh yeah man how

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are you going yeah yeah um

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yesterday I got distracted so I uh

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I needed to, um,

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relaunch some nodes as we

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were talking about earlier,

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just more redundant nodes,

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spray them out there.

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And, um, actually the,

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so do you remember a little

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while ago that, that, um, the, uh,

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the Zabbix, um,

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repo sort of shit the bed a

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little bit the um the zabix

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ansible community repo it

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just would like it stopped

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installing stuff on like

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debian and whatever okay do

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you remember anyway um

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sorry so I used I used to

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use that uh you know

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collection to um install the um

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the zabic stuff right I

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still do yeah do you okay

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well it's stopped working

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for me a while ago um but

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anyway so I've been meaning

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to just like you know write

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my own installer um with

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ansible and yes I'm not

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relying on that third party

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thing that just breaks

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every now and then sure um

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So I got distracted doing that instead.

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So I spent like a good two

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thirds of the day making that pretty.

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I've been doing a lot of refactoring.

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I was, I would call it lately.

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It was functional in about 30 minutes.

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Yeah.

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I spent, you know,

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another five hours making it,

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making it beautiful.

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I did see that,

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that I just fixed that actually,

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because I know, I know what you're,

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I remember what we were talking about.

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Cause it was breaking for me too,

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but it looks like all he

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did is they changed the tags.

00:18:57.130 --> 00:18:58.290
they got rid of agent one stuff.

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So all the agent two that

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was called agent two,

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just turn it agent one.

00:19:00.733 --> 00:19:01.534
So all you do is go remove

00:19:01.555 --> 00:19:02.454
all the twos and everything works.

00:19:03.175 --> 00:19:03.737
That's all it was.

00:19:04.877 --> 00:19:05.117
Right.

00:19:05.979 --> 00:19:07.520
Did you have to do that on your side?

00:19:08.443 --> 00:19:09.003
Yeah,

00:19:09.183 --> 00:19:10.365
just when you're calling their playbook.

00:19:10.625 --> 00:19:11.465
That's all it was.

00:19:11.506 --> 00:19:12.226
I just had to change.

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Because all the add-ins you throw in there,

00:19:14.928 --> 00:19:15.867
they just renamed a bunch

00:19:15.887 --> 00:19:17.148
of those add-ins, which isn't very nice.

00:19:18.190 --> 00:19:19.711
But instead of just leaving

00:19:19.730 --> 00:19:20.691
them and creating the new ones.

00:19:20.730 --> 00:19:22.511
But that's what it was.

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Once you change those little

00:19:24.192 --> 00:19:25.074
tags and everything started

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working again.

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So it's back to doing what

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it should be doing.

00:19:28.836 --> 00:19:31.297
You know, that repo is so complicated,

00:19:31.336 --> 00:19:31.518
though.

00:19:32.057 --> 00:19:32.337
It is.

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I was like...

00:19:36.229 --> 00:19:37.348
I think out of the five

00:19:37.388 --> 00:19:38.869
hours I spent making mine

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pretty two of that was

00:19:40.670 --> 00:19:41.369
reading through all the

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files on that repo.

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And it is just utterly ridiculous.

00:19:45.611 --> 00:19:46.932
I think it uses every single

00:19:47.031 --> 00:19:47.912
feature of Ansible.

00:19:48.471 --> 00:19:48.951
It does that.

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And also,

00:19:49.592 --> 00:19:50.712
but it also uses for every

00:19:50.732 --> 00:19:51.913
fucking platform across

00:19:52.012 --> 00:19:53.633
every fucking situation.

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So like, like I think I passed,

00:19:56.473 --> 00:19:56.973
I'm not even kidding.

00:19:56.993 --> 00:19:57.653
I'm like, I can go look,

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I bet you I'm passing it 90 flags.

00:20:00.612 --> 00:20:00.771
Right.

00:20:00.852 --> 00:20:01.511
It's something like that

00:20:01.531 --> 00:20:02.772
because you're passing, like,

00:20:02.792 --> 00:20:03.833
am I saving time here with this?

00:20:03.873 --> 00:20:04.292
Like,

00:20:04.313 --> 00:20:06.894
I don't even know if I'm passing so

00:20:06.913 --> 00:20:08.255
much shit, but I mean, cause our,

00:20:08.434 --> 00:20:09.535
I think both of our clients

00:20:09.555 --> 00:20:10.756
that upset us are pretty simple.

00:20:11.715 --> 00:20:13.155
And the only other issue I get is like,

00:20:13.195 --> 00:20:13.656
I have to,

00:20:13.676 --> 00:20:16.877
I have to pseudo in on the

00:20:16.917 --> 00:20:18.137
local machine before it'll

00:20:18.198 --> 00:20:19.199
actually talk to Zabbix

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server for some reason.

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Cause it's some Mac OS thing that,

00:20:21.499 --> 00:20:22.319
that always me up.

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It's annoying.

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There is another thing with

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it where it's got a

00:20:27.244 --> 00:20:28.547
dependency and you have to

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run it as root.

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That's what I'm talking about.

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As long as I sudo first

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before I run that command and then run it,

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it'll work.

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So I don't run the... Yeah,

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I don't like that.

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I don't like that.

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Well,

00:20:41.724 --> 00:20:43.224
then it adds the fingerprints to a

00:20:43.265 --> 00:20:44.546
different host file as well,

00:20:44.586 --> 00:20:45.507
which is a pain in the ass.

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Oh, that might be different.

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That's a Python library it

00:20:49.028 --> 00:20:50.509
uses for the public IP.

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Ah, okay.

00:20:50.828 --> 00:20:51.750
Yeah.

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Oh, I see.

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I didn't use it.

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Yeah.

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I gotcha, I gotcha, I gotcha.

00:20:57.093 --> 00:20:57.353
Yeah,

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that might be one of those because

00:20:58.574 --> 00:20:59.574
it's calling some macOS

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thing here locally that

00:21:01.234 --> 00:21:02.215
needs... that won't...

00:21:02.934 --> 00:21:03.596
Yeah, exactly.

00:21:03.655 --> 00:21:04.997
It's like a local dependency

00:21:05.057 --> 00:21:06.057
that needs root.

00:21:06.398 --> 00:21:07.799
Yeah, that pissed me off.

00:21:08.121 --> 00:21:09.122
So that's another reason I

00:21:09.142 --> 00:21:09.741
stopped using it.

00:21:10.323 --> 00:21:11.463
Yeah,

00:21:11.663 --> 00:21:12.806
that's a reason enough for me to get

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rid of it.

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Because no matter what,

00:21:14.267 --> 00:21:14.748
every time I run it,

00:21:14.768 --> 00:21:15.448
I always forget that.

00:21:16.128 --> 00:21:17.611
So I should just build that

00:21:17.651 --> 00:21:18.151
in the Ansible.

00:21:19.071 --> 00:21:20.731
um where I just run a local

00:21:20.751 --> 00:21:21.873
I can give you mine it's

00:21:21.913 --> 00:21:23.712
pretty it'll it'll do it

00:21:24.512 --> 00:21:25.913
yeah I made it so it'll do

00:21:25.972 --> 00:21:29.874
it for ubuntu and debian I

00:21:29.894 --> 00:21:31.193
did not bother going to the

00:21:31.334 --> 00:21:33.694
um red hat flavors so yeah

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I don't use those no it's

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fucking nice yeah I've

00:21:38.215 --> 00:21:39.215
actually I refactored a

00:21:39.256 --> 00:21:40.135
bunch of stuff this week

00:21:40.296 --> 00:21:42.135
which was pretty cool um I

00:21:42.175 --> 00:21:44.497
have uh on my list a bunch

00:21:44.537 --> 00:21:45.457
of refactoring to do

00:21:46.484 --> 00:21:46.684
Yeah.

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On my list.

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I don't mind doing it.

00:21:50.087 --> 00:21:51.169
It doesn't really bother me too much.

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So it's just a matter of

00:21:54.010 --> 00:21:54.432
getting through it.

00:21:56.053 --> 00:21:56.153
Yeah.

00:21:56.173 --> 00:21:56.894
There's some interesting

00:21:56.953 --> 00:21:57.713
stuff on this list.

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Solana backend RPC lavender

00:22:00.916 --> 00:22:02.157
five health check error.

00:22:05.339 --> 00:22:05.760
FYI.

00:22:06.701 --> 00:22:07.001
Really?

00:22:07.521 --> 00:22:07.701
Yeah.

00:22:08.042 --> 00:22:08.722
You probably just close the

00:22:08.742 --> 00:22:09.243
port out to me.

00:22:09.364 --> 00:22:14.008
That's all it is.

00:22:14.028 --> 00:22:14.428
Oh man.

00:22:14.912 --> 00:22:15.352
Rama asked,

00:22:15.372 --> 00:22:17.613
did anyone get cut from the EVMO set?

00:22:18.093 --> 00:22:18.772
Woohoo!

00:22:19.173 --> 00:22:19.492
I did.

00:22:20.034 --> 00:22:21.273
Everyone, baby.

00:22:22.534 --> 00:22:22.913
So wait,

00:22:22.953 --> 00:22:25.214
how many vowels is EVMOs down to then?

00:22:25.234 --> 00:22:25.214
20.

00:22:27.135 --> 00:22:27.276
Oh, 20?

00:22:27.556 --> 00:22:27.276
16.

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16?

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20?

00:22:27.615 --> 00:22:29.655
Something like that.

00:22:31.176 --> 00:22:32.777
Sounds like everybody that

00:22:32.856 --> 00:22:34.798
got cut just got dealt a favor.

00:22:34.837 --> 00:22:36.338
I think Schultz is in, right?

00:22:36.578 --> 00:22:37.459
Aren't you still in there?

00:22:38.259 --> 00:22:39.538
No, Schultz got cut too.

00:22:40.019 --> 00:22:40.440
Thank God.

00:22:40.460 --> 00:22:40.599
Yeah.

00:22:41.923 --> 00:22:43.423
Both L5 and us are out.

00:22:43.644 --> 00:22:44.243
That was awesome.

00:22:44.483 --> 00:22:44.663
Dude,

00:22:44.983 --> 00:22:47.984
running that Ansible delete command

00:22:48.105 --> 00:22:49.605
on that chain was fucking awesome.

00:22:51.026 --> 00:22:51.806
That was amazing.

00:22:51.846 --> 00:22:53.606
You've got an Ansible delete?

00:22:53.646 --> 00:22:55.288
I got an Ansible fuck this chain.

00:22:56.684 --> 00:22:58.307
I'm out the same purge

00:22:58.326 --> 00:22:59.627
cloudflare purge all of

00:22:59.647 --> 00:23:01.189
that purge that purge the

00:23:01.288 --> 00:23:02.589
get rid of the system d get

00:23:02.630 --> 00:23:03.550
rid of the actual bill

00:23:03.590 --> 00:23:04.491
files get rid of that

00:23:04.551 --> 00:23:05.673
fucking thing and then at

00:23:05.712 --> 00:23:07.753
the end yeah everything at

00:23:07.994 --> 00:23:10.457
all just just wipe wipe

00:23:10.537 --> 00:23:12.698
clean that's there are 20

00:23:12.698 --> 00:23:14.380
validators to do it

00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:16.260
yourself like just you kind

00:23:16.300 --> 00:23:17.422
of you slight switch off

00:23:17.481 --> 00:23:18.702
each bit of life support as

00:23:18.742 --> 00:23:21.665
you go just just turn it off then

00:23:21.836 --> 00:23:23.117
Yeah, but you have to care a lot for that,

00:23:23.298 --> 00:23:23.637
right?

00:23:23.978 --> 00:23:25.439
Some of these chains, it's just like,

00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:26.420
don't care enough.

00:23:26.900 --> 00:23:27.161
Boop.

00:23:27.381 --> 00:23:27.740
See ya.

00:23:28.602 --> 00:23:29.821
Yeah, fair enough.

00:23:30.022 --> 00:23:32.784
I think we... I think it was like Curb.

00:23:32.923 --> 00:23:33.785
We were trying to work out

00:23:33.825 --> 00:23:34.986
how to unborn gracefully,

00:23:35.026 --> 00:23:35.826
and we just ended up

00:23:35.846 --> 00:23:36.646
pulling the plug on the

00:23:36.666 --> 00:23:37.907
server and just saying, ah, fuck it.

00:23:38.443 --> 00:23:38.904
That's next.

00:23:39.545 --> 00:23:40.566
Next one.

00:23:41.467 --> 00:23:43.108
Like the extent to which it was like,

00:23:43.449 --> 00:23:44.891
pretty sure forgot to turn

00:23:44.931 --> 00:23:46.132
off page of duty first.

00:23:46.172 --> 00:23:50.056
And that was like, oops, that's definitely,

00:23:50.477 --> 00:23:51.377
we definitely did that when, um,

00:23:51.397 --> 00:23:53.039
what are they called?

00:23:53.059 --> 00:23:56.824
Uh, uh, fucking Grafana, uh,

00:23:57.503 --> 00:23:59.445
tried to like we briefly

00:23:59.506 --> 00:24:00.926
exceeded the free tier for

00:24:00.967 --> 00:24:01.827
some stuff we were running

00:24:01.847 --> 00:24:02.949
and they were like they

00:24:02.969 --> 00:24:04.410
were like host of Grafana

00:24:04.430 --> 00:24:05.070
were like you guys are

00:24:05.090 --> 00:24:06.372
gonna have to pay and it

00:24:06.412 --> 00:24:07.292
was like oh shit well we

00:24:07.333 --> 00:24:08.273
already have a monitoring

00:24:08.314 --> 00:24:09.474
box for most stuff and we

00:24:09.494 --> 00:24:10.234
just need to move these

00:24:10.275 --> 00:24:11.155
last few things over so

00:24:11.195 --> 00:24:12.636
let's just do that but then

00:24:12.917 --> 00:24:14.179
forgot that we didn't just

00:24:14.219 --> 00:24:15.119
have monitoring on it we

00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:16.621
also had alerts and

00:24:16.800 --> 00:24:18.060
and so like just booped it

00:24:18.221 --> 00:24:20.021
off and then major duty

00:24:20.041 --> 00:24:22.082
went totally fucking mental

00:24:22.701 --> 00:24:24.142
it was like oh god like

00:24:24.501 --> 00:24:25.383
when when it's like

00:24:25.442 --> 00:24:26.762
literally sending you like

00:24:26.883 --> 00:24:28.482
three alerts or four alerts

00:24:28.522 --> 00:24:29.423
or four different networks

00:24:29.643 --> 00:24:31.124
at once because everything

00:24:31.183 --> 00:24:33.183
is fucked you're like ah

00:24:33.364 --> 00:24:34.923
how do I even see just like

00:24:34.943 --> 00:24:36.125
disabled disabled disabled

00:24:36.664 --> 00:24:38.204
oh goodbye that was

00:24:38.224 --> 00:24:40.945
annoying 15 minutes where

00:24:40.986 --> 00:24:41.846
it's just like why have I

00:24:41.885 --> 00:24:42.645
done this to myself

00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:43.778
Why?

00:24:43.798 --> 00:24:45.400
Yeah, it's a good feeling.

00:24:45.740 --> 00:24:47.020
I think next we'll do it

00:24:47.080 --> 00:24:49.701
where we'll do a TBL search.

00:24:49.781 --> 00:24:52.522
If that TBL is under like 25 grand,

00:24:53.282 --> 00:24:55.044
then it will automatically unbond,

00:24:55.443 --> 00:24:59.685
delete all nodes, tweet out, peace out.

00:25:01.527 --> 00:25:02.688
Not around stick Twitter.

00:25:02.887 --> 00:25:03.307
That's it.

00:25:03.327 --> 00:25:04.048
That's a good.

00:25:04.808 --> 00:25:05.628
You know who's going to do

00:25:05.648 --> 00:25:06.509
the Irish goodbye?

00:25:07.250 --> 00:25:08.049
Scramble the keys.

00:25:08.130 --> 00:25:08.710
It's all gone.

00:25:09.790 --> 00:25:11.131
Good portion of the cosmos.

00:25:11.171 --> 00:25:12.332
Couldn't even come back if I wanted to.

00:25:15.114 --> 00:25:15.515
Amazing.

00:25:15.815 --> 00:25:18.517
Yeah, I mean, so I guess that's going IC,

00:25:18.676 --> 00:25:20.458
not ICS, it's IC something, right?

00:25:20.518 --> 00:25:21.078
What do they call that?

00:25:21.618 --> 00:25:22.440
We talked about last week.

00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:23.579
ICS?

00:25:24.080 --> 00:25:24.921
Is it going to Neutron?

00:25:25.882 --> 00:25:26.722
Partial set, right?

00:25:27.002 --> 00:25:27.603
Partial set.

00:25:28.364 --> 00:25:29.325
PSS?

00:25:30.806 --> 00:25:31.906
P-I-S-S, I think.

00:25:32.487 --> 00:25:34.808
I think it's such an amazing thing for,

00:25:34.828 --> 00:25:35.769
yeah, it's P-I-S-S,

00:25:36.150 --> 00:25:38.270
lowercase I. It's such an

00:25:38.310 --> 00:25:39.952
amazing thing for a chain

00:25:40.353 --> 00:25:41.634
to have a run and then

00:25:43.988 --> 00:25:45.608
dump shit on validators for

00:25:45.670 --> 00:25:46.450
dumping tokens.

00:25:46.589 --> 00:25:47.530
And then to the point where

00:25:47.570 --> 00:25:49.333
the chain is on life

00:25:49.353 --> 00:25:51.414
support goes to partial set security.

00:25:51.474 --> 00:25:52.455
Then they have to pay the

00:25:52.496 --> 00:25:53.616
vowels to actually validate.

00:25:55.018 --> 00:25:56.199
It's such a flip.

00:25:56.219 --> 00:25:56.880
Well,

00:25:57.140 --> 00:25:58.661
don't they always have to pay the

00:25:58.701 --> 00:26:00.001
vowels to validate?

00:26:00.282 --> 00:26:01.202
Well, before, no,

00:26:01.222 --> 00:26:02.545
before they do from the mint,

00:26:03.085 --> 00:26:03.846
which actually we should

00:26:03.865 --> 00:26:04.486
bring up that graph.

00:26:04.506 --> 00:26:05.247
That graph was also

00:26:05.287 --> 00:26:06.387
interesting that came out this week.

00:26:07.269 --> 00:26:07.328
Um,

00:26:08.069 --> 00:26:10.391
Oh, yeah.

00:26:10.590 --> 00:26:11.391
That was a good graph.

00:26:11.711 --> 00:26:12.892
I'll put a link to the show notes in this,

00:26:12.932 --> 00:26:13.531
too.

00:26:14.292 --> 00:26:15.813
I forget who did that research.

00:26:15.853 --> 00:26:16.794
I should have had it available.

00:26:17.173 --> 00:26:17.814
I meant to save it.

00:26:17.854 --> 00:26:20.055
Maybe, Schultz, you have it.

00:26:20.575 --> 00:26:23.336
There was basically a flow of funds,

00:26:23.396 --> 00:26:24.136
I guess you could call it.

00:26:24.656 --> 00:26:26.458
from both the mint as well

00:26:26.518 --> 00:26:28.799
as fees on osmosis, right?

00:26:29.840 --> 00:26:31.662
And the breakout percentages

00:26:31.682 --> 00:26:34.124
of what went to delegators,

00:26:34.144 --> 00:26:35.384
what went to validators,

00:26:35.505 --> 00:26:39.106
what went to the dev team, right?

00:26:39.227 --> 00:26:41.469
Or the foundation slash whatever the fuck,

00:26:42.169 --> 00:26:43.289
community funds, et cetera.

00:26:43.450 --> 00:26:44.750
Foundation slash whatever the fuck.

00:26:44.770 --> 00:26:47.012
Yeah, I mean.

00:26:47.053 --> 00:26:47.593
You know what,

00:26:47.613 --> 00:26:49.474
people talk about the validators dumping,

00:26:49.515 --> 00:26:50.595
but the problem is always

00:26:50.615 --> 00:26:51.435
the whatever the fuck.

00:26:52.671 --> 00:26:52.830
That's,

00:26:53.030 --> 00:26:55.571
that's the part that in my experience,

00:26:55.811 --> 00:26:56.932
and I hope to find my

00:26:56.972 --> 00:26:58.034
experience will soon be

00:26:58.074 --> 00:26:59.253
validated by rigorous

00:26:59.374 --> 00:27:01.414
academic research and field work.

00:27:01.434 --> 00:27:02.596
Yeah.

00:27:03.336 --> 00:27:06.557
But we'll put a, we'll put a link in the,

00:27:07.018 --> 00:27:08.557
um, in the show notes to it, which,

00:27:08.657 --> 00:27:10.358
which I thought that it was a really,

00:27:10.479 --> 00:27:11.359
it was a really cool analysis.

00:27:11.380 --> 00:27:12.019
Cause we've talked about

00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:13.340
this in the past too, right?

00:27:13.361 --> 00:27:13.901
Like what,

00:27:14.913 --> 00:27:15.833
much is actually being taken

00:27:15.874 --> 00:27:17.114
by five percent validator

00:27:17.134 --> 00:27:18.054
commissions and we don't

00:27:18.394 --> 00:27:19.255
validate an osmosis I don't

00:27:19.275 --> 00:27:21.695
give a but um it's a good

00:27:21.796 --> 00:27:22.876
it's a good representation

00:27:22.997 --> 00:27:24.297
and visual to the thing and

00:27:24.317 --> 00:27:25.077
I thought it was also

00:27:25.117 --> 00:27:25.857
amazing that the first

00:27:25.897 --> 00:27:27.759
comment was validators

00:27:28.659 --> 00:27:29.519
which literally on this

00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:30.440
chart they had like the

00:27:30.500 --> 00:27:31.861
smallest piece out of this

00:27:32.580 --> 00:27:34.301
which is also as rama says

00:27:34.741 --> 00:27:35.481
uh you know the pithy

00:27:35.521 --> 00:27:38.624
summary devs eating 50k osmo a day

00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:40.720
It wasn't that much, was it?

00:27:40.740 --> 00:27:41.140
Yeah, I think so.

00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:41.780
I think the total in that

00:27:42.340 --> 00:27:43.201
chart was 187k or so, right?

00:27:43.221 --> 00:27:43.500
Emissions.

00:27:43.520 --> 00:27:44.401
45,662 in this example.

00:27:44.421 --> 00:27:44.520
Baby.

00:27:44.540 --> 00:27:44.641
Yeah.

00:27:44.661 --> 00:27:45.501
This is not per day, though, is it?

00:27:45.541 --> 00:27:47.182
Yeah, I think so.

00:27:47.201 --> 00:27:47.761
Holy shit, it is.

00:27:47.801 --> 00:27:48.061
Yeah.

00:28:06.380 --> 00:28:08.280
And you're like, why is the token price?

00:28:08.401 --> 00:28:09.681
Where's the token price in

00:28:09.701 --> 00:28:10.820
the toilet when I need to

00:28:10.861 --> 00:28:12.362
sell my validator rewards

00:28:12.422 --> 00:28:13.821
to pay for my servers?

00:28:14.583 --> 00:28:15.403
So the overall,

00:28:15.702 --> 00:28:18.443
for folks who aren't going

00:28:18.463 --> 00:28:19.564
to look at this graph up again,

00:28:19.584 --> 00:28:20.463
I'll put it in the notes.

00:28:20.984 --> 00:28:23.164
Revenue was about 40,000 Osmo a day.

00:28:23.184 --> 00:28:24.786
Inflation, the myth,

00:28:24.806 --> 00:28:25.586
basically 182,000 a day.

00:28:25.605 --> 00:28:26.266
So out of that, let's say 220,000,

00:28:32.511 --> 00:28:33.432
let's back up a little bit

00:28:33.792 --> 00:28:34.833
yeah and talk about what

00:28:34.853 --> 00:28:35.973
the revenue is revenue

00:28:35.993 --> 00:28:36.934
would be things for like so

00:28:36.974 --> 00:28:39.135
rosmosis is a decentralized

00:28:39.175 --> 00:28:40.056
exchange a lot of that

00:28:40.096 --> 00:28:41.777
revenue would be from like

00:28:42.057 --> 00:28:43.357
trading fees swaps right

00:28:43.557 --> 00:28:45.539
and swaps yep and then

00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:47.621
there is a um the thing

00:28:47.641 --> 00:28:49.122
that by skip for mev proto

00:28:49.162 --> 00:28:50.603
rev one of the states

00:28:50.643 --> 00:28:53.104
called that's like um mev

00:28:53.124 --> 00:28:54.525
protection so that's where

00:28:54.545 --> 00:28:55.184
that's where the revenue is

00:28:55.204 --> 00:28:56.685
coming from but the point

00:28:56.705 --> 00:28:57.486
being it's significantly

00:28:57.527 --> 00:28:58.186
lower than inflation

00:28:59.413 --> 00:29:00.634
Yeah, which, I mean, honestly,

00:29:00.634 --> 00:29:05.477
40,000 Osmo a day is

00:29:05.517 --> 00:29:06.376
actually more than I thought.

00:29:08.137 --> 00:29:11.838
Yeah, as far as crypto projects go,

00:29:11.858 --> 00:29:13.920
that's pretty interesting, actually.

00:29:13.940 --> 00:29:14.921
That's actually reasonable.

00:29:15.421 --> 00:29:16.901
Is that right?

00:29:16.921 --> 00:29:18.221
No trash talk.

00:29:18.261 --> 00:29:19.542
It says the dev in the room.

00:29:21.413 --> 00:29:22.513
It's quite reasonable, actually.

00:29:25.996 --> 00:29:27.596
Yeah, so that's what is that?

00:29:27.615 --> 00:29:28.855
That's in USD.

00:29:28.895 --> 00:29:31.257
That's $16,000 a day.

00:29:31.277 --> 00:29:32.258
Is that right?

00:29:34.958 --> 00:29:36.638
Plus or minus 5.8 million a year.

00:29:39.140 --> 00:29:40.299
That's pretty cool.

00:29:40.859 --> 00:29:41.740
Six million dollars in

00:29:41.980 --> 00:29:43.020
actual revenue a year.

00:29:43.040 --> 00:29:45.082
I mean, that in that in that term,

00:29:45.102 --> 00:29:45.442
that sounds.

00:29:46.431 --> 00:29:46.990
That sounds pretty

00:29:47.010 --> 00:29:47.811
meaningless to be honest,

00:29:47.832 --> 00:29:49.692
but are they dumping it though?

00:29:50.172 --> 00:29:50.913
Are they dumping it?

00:29:51.553 --> 00:29:53.034
So, yes.

00:29:53.334 --> 00:29:56.134
So, uh, anyway, so 220 inbound,

00:29:56.375 --> 00:29:57.115
I guess through

00:29:57.154 --> 00:29:58.375
make-believe and also through,

00:29:58.736 --> 00:29:59.915
through fees and through

00:29:59.976 --> 00:30:01.576
protoref and then outbound

00:30:01.616 --> 00:30:02.037
was about 110,000.

00:30:02.037 --> 00:30:03.097
So out of that 220, 110, basically half,

00:30:03.117 --> 00:30:03.218
right.

00:30:03.238 --> 00:30:03.778
Goes to delegates.

00:30:03.798 --> 00:30:03.897
Um, uh,

00:30:09.545 --> 00:30:11.726
Another 46,000 or so goes to

00:30:11.766 --> 00:30:12.486
the community pool.

00:30:13.306 --> 00:30:14.286
Another 46,000 goes.

00:30:14.527 --> 00:30:16.787
So basically one-to-one with

00:30:16.826 --> 00:30:17.807
the community pool goes to

00:30:17.887 --> 00:30:19.887
dev vesting and then

00:30:19.928 --> 00:30:20.788
validators get 5,700 or 6,000.

00:30:20.788 --> 00:30:21.528
So 6,000 out of 220,

00:30:21.528 --> 00:30:21.888
which is 0.25 or 2.5%.

00:30:21.888 --> 00:30:22.108
Yeah. 2.7%.

00:30:33.384 --> 00:30:34.664
goes to the Val set.

00:30:34.924 --> 00:30:36.165
And the Val set's pretty large, right?

00:30:36.286 --> 00:30:37.365
I guess it doesn't matter how large it is.

00:30:37.385 --> 00:30:38.086
It's just whatever.

00:30:38.106 --> 00:30:38.847
Yeah, it doesn't matter.

00:30:38.867 --> 00:30:38.968
Yeah,

00:30:38.988 --> 00:30:39.827
it's going to be the top five

00:30:39.847 --> 00:30:40.689
validators get 1%,

00:30:40.689 --> 00:30:41.710
and then 173 validators or

00:30:41.710 --> 00:30:42.869
170 validators share 1%, if that.

00:30:42.910 --> 00:30:43.029
Yeah.

00:30:51.387 --> 00:30:51.867
So that's 22,

00:30:51.867 --> 00:30:53.189
basically $2,300 a day right now.

00:30:53.249 --> 00:30:53.869
Times, what is that?

00:30:53.890 --> 00:30:55.309
About 583,000 a year divided by 140 vals.

00:30:55.369 --> 00:30:59.452
How many vals are in osmosis right now?

00:30:59.472 --> 00:30:59.692
I forget.

00:30:59.712 --> 00:31:01.753
I thought it was 150 for some reason,

00:31:01.773 --> 00:31:02.775
but I could be wrong.

00:31:02.795 --> 00:31:04.276
That seems way high.

00:31:04.296 --> 00:31:04.635
Is it that high?

00:31:20.730 --> 00:31:21.550
Or is it $100 still?

00:31:21.651 --> 00:31:22.932
No, they bumped up the set, right?

00:31:22.951 --> 00:31:23.491
Maybe $120?

00:31:24.272 --> 00:31:24.673
It's $150.

00:31:24.952 --> 00:31:25.753
Yep, $150.

00:31:26.834 --> 00:31:29.414
Which is an average of $323 a month.

00:31:33.057 --> 00:31:33.557
Nice.

00:31:34.137 --> 00:31:35.499
And obviously the tail is

00:31:35.558 --> 00:31:36.358
longer than that.

00:31:36.439 --> 00:31:37.199
So if you're towards the

00:31:37.219 --> 00:31:38.579
bottom of that... That's

00:31:38.579 --> 00:31:39.140
$3,800 a year on average.

00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:39.881
That's $3,800 a year on average,

00:31:39.901 --> 00:31:40.580
which I would think the

00:31:40.601 --> 00:31:41.741
average out of $150,

00:31:41.741 --> 00:31:42.382
the median... Median or mean?

00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:52.782
median I think the median is

00:31:52.823 --> 00:31:53.683
probably like validator

00:31:53.723 --> 00:31:58.730
number fucking 20 30 maybe

00:31:58.890 --> 00:32:00.412
out of that group which

00:32:00.471 --> 00:32:03.095
means from there no the

00:32:03.154 --> 00:32:04.936
median no the median right

00:32:05.316 --> 00:32:06.395
The medium would be all of

00:32:06.415 --> 00:32:07.596
them lined up in a row.

00:32:08.037 --> 00:32:08.997
It would be number 75.

00:32:09.396 --> 00:32:11.978
Yeah, so it would be the mean.

00:32:12.577 --> 00:32:14.057
Which validator would have the, like,

00:32:14.157 --> 00:32:15.999
if you took them all and averaged them,

00:32:16.098 --> 00:32:17.838
which one would actually be

00:32:17.919 --> 00:32:19.079
the... You mean which one

00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:21.579
would be the marker of the

00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:22.299
50th percentile?

00:32:22.380 --> 00:32:22.701
Yes.

00:32:24.840 --> 00:32:25.080
Yes.

00:32:25.540 --> 00:32:25.080
21.

00:32:26.060 --> 00:32:26.682
I think you're right.

00:32:26.701 --> 00:32:26.682
21. 21.

00:32:29.135 --> 00:32:30.355
Yeah, 21.

00:32:30.477 --> 00:32:31.676
So you fucking guessed it

00:32:31.717 --> 00:32:35.198
almost dead on the money.

00:32:35.397 --> 00:32:36.858
I took a guess on 20.

00:32:36.939 --> 00:32:38.259
So 130 validators making

00:32:38.419 --> 00:32:42.240
less than $400 a month.

00:32:43.961 --> 00:32:44.701
And the hardware

00:32:44.741 --> 00:32:46.241
requirements of Osmosis at

00:32:46.261 --> 00:32:49.363
the moment are fairly high.

00:32:49.663 --> 00:32:50.804
They're really high, actually,

00:32:50.824 --> 00:32:52.564
because they're really RAM heavy,

00:32:52.584 --> 00:32:54.105
because our RPC nodes keep fucking...

00:32:55.088 --> 00:32:57.130
choking and they go I i cut

00:32:57.150 --> 00:32:58.391
them off at like 64 gigs

00:32:58.431 --> 00:32:59.811
and they still fucking they

00:32:59.872 --> 00:33:00.892
still roll them out of that

00:33:01.833 --> 00:33:03.153
so basically you're talking

00:33:03.233 --> 00:33:05.795
like hetzner is your option

00:33:06.355 --> 00:33:07.957
at that price well I mean

00:33:07.997 --> 00:33:09.297
well fucking tell me tell

00:33:09.317 --> 00:33:10.458
me a provider that will

00:33:10.498 --> 00:33:12.138
reliably be up for 400 with

00:33:12.138 --> 00:33:12.618
64 gig of ram a month

00:33:15.717 --> 00:33:16.616
Oh, there's a lot of those.

00:33:16.836 --> 00:33:17.857
I'm not saying that, but I mean,

00:33:18.357 --> 00:33:18.857
but I mean,

00:33:18.917 --> 00:33:20.159
if you want to actually make

00:33:20.219 --> 00:33:21.019
something out of it, I mean,

00:33:21.038 --> 00:33:22.038
if you want to spend $400 a

00:33:22.078 --> 00:33:23.059
month on something, yeah, sure.

00:33:23.099 --> 00:33:23.319
You can,

00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:24.420
there's a lot of places you can run it,

00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:26.401
but if you want to actually make a dollar,

00:33:27.681 --> 00:33:28.602
then yeah.

00:33:29.402 --> 00:33:29.701
But if you're,

00:33:29.781 --> 00:33:31.242
if you're one 50 in this set,

00:33:31.363 --> 00:33:32.702
like I want you to lose it on this thing.

00:33:33.423 --> 00:33:33.963
It's crazy.

00:33:35.064 --> 00:33:35.865
Losing a few dollars.

00:33:35.904 --> 00:33:36.664
Yeah, for sure.

00:33:37.105 --> 00:33:38.766
But I do love this graph is awesome.

00:33:39.205 --> 00:33:41.727
Like I would love to look at

00:33:41.767 --> 00:33:44.167
this tool set to be able to

00:33:44.188 --> 00:33:44.807
redo this for,

00:33:46.183 --> 00:33:48.327
everything that we run ever.

00:33:48.990 --> 00:33:49.951
It'd be awesome to see.

00:33:51.074 --> 00:33:54.200
So well done on this chart,

00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:55.261
assuming it's accurate,

00:33:55.422 --> 00:33:56.423
which I would assume it is.

00:33:58.527 --> 00:33:59.707
based on the public peer

00:33:59.728 --> 00:34:03.709
reviews and people ripping into shit.

00:34:04.009 --> 00:34:04.910
We think it's accurate.

00:34:05.170 --> 00:34:06.690
We will take a step back and be like,

00:34:06.809 --> 00:34:07.770
for the same reasons that

00:34:07.851 --> 00:34:09.371
we think upgrades are

00:34:09.411 --> 00:34:11.271
definitely correct and code

00:34:11.371 --> 00:34:12.693
is definitely correct.

00:34:12.913 --> 00:34:13.913
Because we've all looked at

00:34:13.992 --> 00:34:15.213
it and we're all tired.

00:34:16.373 --> 00:34:17.375
And we will assume that

00:34:17.434 --> 00:34:18.954
everybody else has checked it.

00:34:18.994 --> 00:34:21.436
None of us really have checked it.

00:34:23.016 --> 00:34:24.818
So speaking of everybody

00:34:24.858 --> 00:34:25.998
expecting somebody else to check it,

00:34:26.018 --> 00:34:27.478
did you see the Noble bug?

00:34:28.958 --> 00:34:29.259
Yes.

00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:30.458
It's a great bug.

00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:31.800
Of all the bugs,

00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:33.400
it's one of the bugs of all time.

00:34:33.699 --> 00:34:34.280
It really is.

00:34:34.300 --> 00:34:38.001
Why don't you explain it a little bit?

00:34:38.041 --> 00:34:39.202
I was excited about this

00:34:39.262 --> 00:34:41.922
because I'm in no way

00:34:41.961 --> 00:34:43.443
fucking responsible for it.

00:34:43.483 --> 00:34:45.902
And that's the best kind of bug to see.

00:34:46.362 --> 00:34:47.224
So there was a...

00:34:49.248 --> 00:34:51.088
The bug was in, as I understand it,

00:34:51.148 --> 00:34:53.088
from thank you to the hard

00:34:53.869 --> 00:34:55.889
investigatory nose of our

00:34:56.010 --> 00:34:56.809
news researcher.

00:34:58.130 --> 00:34:59.791
The bug was in the XCCTP

00:35:00.050 --> 00:35:03.512
module in like the Go extensions bit.

00:35:04.313 --> 00:35:06.952
And it didn't verify the source sender.

00:35:07.514 --> 00:35:11.034
So anybody could send a burn message,

00:35:11.094 --> 00:35:11.775
message type.

00:35:12.695 --> 00:35:14.675
um and it would just meant

00:35:14.996 --> 00:35:18.356
usdc or no usdc or noble um

00:35:19.396 --> 00:35:20.817
they say nobody did from

00:35:20.836 --> 00:35:23.438
their investigations um but

00:35:23.878 --> 00:35:25.918
there was 30 obviously 35

00:35:25.918 --> 00:35:29.340
million dollars was was at risk oh

00:35:31.420 --> 00:35:32.340
It was pretty crazy that

00:35:32.380 --> 00:35:33.181
nobody exploited it,

00:35:33.201 --> 00:35:34.061
but it just goes to show

00:35:34.101 --> 00:35:35.722
that validators might not

00:35:35.762 --> 00:35:36.621
be checking the code,

00:35:37.623 --> 00:35:39.103
but neither are attackers

00:35:39.242 --> 00:35:40.483
in the Cosmos because I

00:35:40.503 --> 00:35:41.384
guess it's just not

00:35:41.463 --> 00:35:43.445
profitable to attack Cosmos

00:35:43.485 --> 00:35:44.885
chains because there's no TVL.

00:35:45.385 --> 00:35:46.945
Although in this case, 35 million.

00:35:47.326 --> 00:35:49.027
God, that would have been good,

00:35:49.047 --> 00:35:49.686
wouldn't it?

00:35:49.706 --> 00:35:50.987
It's a tidy little parcel.

00:35:51.867 --> 00:35:53.268
So the way I understand it was,

00:35:54.028 --> 00:35:56.389
if I understand this defect specifically,

00:35:56.690 --> 00:35:57.650
you have a mint structure

00:35:58.030 --> 00:36:00.092
on the destination.

00:36:01.650 --> 00:36:03.271
then there's a burn so you

00:36:03.431 --> 00:36:03.992
you would obviously

00:36:04.012 --> 00:36:05.313
wouldn't burn the tokens on

00:36:05.353 --> 00:36:06.514
the source until you knew

00:36:06.554 --> 00:36:07.835
them that the transfer was

00:36:07.875 --> 00:36:11.398
completing right and so the

00:36:11.597 --> 00:36:13.619
on the burn that burn was

00:36:13.659 --> 00:36:14.661
not authenticated so you

00:36:14.681 --> 00:36:15.280
could say that it was

00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.583
burned when it wasn't I

00:36:17.603 --> 00:36:18.623
think it didn't it didn't

00:36:18.684 --> 00:36:20.786
check that it didn't like

00:36:20.826 --> 00:36:21.907
definitively check like

00:36:21.967 --> 00:36:23.788
invariant style that the uh

00:36:24.748 --> 00:36:28.791
dude check the source of the funds

00:36:31.454 --> 00:36:34.255
We have to move this two hours.

00:36:34.295 --> 00:36:34.896
Sorry about that.

00:36:35.336 --> 00:36:36.038
It was quite late.

00:36:36.538 --> 00:36:36.677
Um,

00:36:37.759 --> 00:36:38.900
I think I'm always something like

00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:39.280
there's like,

00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:40.481
there's something I don't know.

00:36:40.641 --> 00:36:42.523
Like I've got that thing, you know, like,

00:36:42.543 --> 00:36:42.742
you know,

00:36:42.762 --> 00:36:44.264
when you've had COVID and then

00:36:44.304 --> 00:36:47.286
you get like COVID thumb or COVID, um,

00:36:47.686 --> 00:36:50.949
or COVID toes where like

00:36:51.208 --> 00:36:52.309
every time you come into

00:36:52.329 --> 00:36:53.811
contact with somebody with COVID, you,

00:36:53.911 --> 00:36:57.273
you get like, um, an inflamed extremity.

00:36:57.293 --> 00:36:59.715
I had that all during the COVID years.

00:36:59.856 --> 00:37:01.117
What is that a thing?

00:37:02.458 --> 00:37:04.958
Yeah, because it's an autoimmune reaction,

00:37:05.998 --> 00:37:07.239
but your extremities react

00:37:07.278 --> 00:37:08.139
in a particular way.

00:37:08.318 --> 00:37:13.059
So my toes were just numb

00:37:13.340 --> 00:37:15.179
for two years after I first had COVID.

00:37:15.219 --> 00:37:15.960
It was super bad.

00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:18.300
But then as they return to normal,

00:37:18.420 --> 00:37:19.260
I've just got this weird

00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.382
thing where if my immune

00:37:22.461 --> 00:37:23.922
system gets tweaked by

00:37:24.181 --> 00:37:25.681
usually flu or COVID,

00:37:26.922 --> 00:37:28.402
my thumb and my right toes

00:37:28.443 --> 00:37:29.302
just go fucking...

00:37:30.182 --> 00:37:31.882
mad they're just like you're

00:37:31.922 --> 00:37:33.264
completely numb I'm just

00:37:33.304 --> 00:37:36.184
like oh I think I'm ill or

00:37:36.224 --> 00:37:37.625
I'm about to be ill and so

00:37:37.644 --> 00:37:38.625
like yesterday my thumb

00:37:38.644 --> 00:37:39.565
went totally numb and I was

00:37:39.585 --> 00:37:40.744
like oh fuck I've got loads

00:37:40.784 --> 00:37:41.726
of stuff to do this week I

00:37:41.746 --> 00:37:44.485
can't get ill it went numb

00:37:45.126 --> 00:37:46.407
yeah my thumb my thumb went

00:37:46.507 --> 00:37:47.246
my right thumb went

00:37:47.286 --> 00:37:48.726
completely numb and it's

00:37:48.746 --> 00:37:50.728
still still pretty weird yeah yeah

00:37:55.027 --> 00:37:56.827
um there's only those

00:37:56.867 --> 00:37:57.728
extremities you can't like

00:37:57.947 --> 00:37:59.088
can't like dick doesn't

00:37:59.108 --> 00:37:59.688
grow two inches or

00:37:59.728 --> 00:38:02.329
something I wish anyway

00:38:02.349 --> 00:38:06.452
damn what's what do I need

00:38:06.492 --> 00:38:07.672
a 20 inch dick for anyway

00:38:07.693 --> 00:38:12.594
um so so anyway that was

00:38:12.614 --> 00:38:13.394
that was all fun and games

00:38:13.454 --> 00:38:16.996
so noble uh yeah I mean it

00:38:17.536 --> 00:38:18.858
kind of seemed like in in

00:38:18.898 --> 00:38:19.797
the grand scheme of things

00:38:19.878 --> 00:38:21.878
like it was handled relatively well but

00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:24.800
people was it didn't freak

00:38:24.860 --> 00:38:25.942
out that much which was

00:38:27.804 --> 00:38:29.324
interesting well this also

00:38:29.344 --> 00:38:30.465
it looks like was this a

00:38:30.545 --> 00:38:31.706
circle issue or a noble

00:38:31.746 --> 00:38:32.847
team issue I couldn't tell

00:38:32.867 --> 00:38:34.509
because the repo is

00:38:34.590 --> 00:38:35.851
actually in the circle

00:38:35.951 --> 00:38:39.753
github so so I wasn't it

00:38:39.793 --> 00:38:41.856
wasn't clear and but

00:38:41.896 --> 00:38:43.336
everybody in that in that I

00:38:43.356 --> 00:38:44.237
mean obviously everybody

00:38:44.257 --> 00:38:45.199
who's contributing to that

00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.942
to that repo is either um

00:38:49.001 --> 00:38:50.523
from noble or from strange love

00:38:51.231 --> 00:38:52.411
I think I actually didn't go

00:38:52.431 --> 00:38:53.353
through every single contributor,

00:38:53.373 --> 00:38:54.032
but there wasn't a ton of

00:38:54.072 --> 00:38:55.914
contributors involved.

00:38:55.934 --> 00:38:55.954
I,

00:38:56.373 --> 00:38:58.094
I think if you are going to work

00:38:58.193 --> 00:38:59.514
officially with USDC,

00:38:59.614 --> 00:39:00.635
presumably you have to have

00:39:00.755 --> 00:39:02.436
some kind of like relationship with them,

00:39:02.456 --> 00:39:03.615
which is why it's in the.

00:39:04.076 --> 00:39:04.295
Yeah.

00:39:04.596 --> 00:39:04.755
Yeah.

00:39:04.996 --> 00:39:06.717
But because it's like a, you know,

00:39:07.117 --> 00:39:08.878
a trusted or a blessed, whatever.

00:39:08.898 --> 00:39:08.978
Yeah.

00:39:11.155 --> 00:39:13.536
But it's Noble that maintained that,

00:39:13.556 --> 00:39:14.478
isn't it?

00:39:14.557 --> 00:39:15.739
It's Noble, CCTP.

00:39:15.878 --> 00:39:19.081
It is in the CircleFin GitHub structure.

00:39:19.221 --> 00:39:20.121
But like I said before,

00:39:20.141 --> 00:39:20.902
those contributors are all

00:39:20.943 --> 00:39:21.342
over the place.

00:39:21.382 --> 00:39:21.983
But I wasn't sure.

00:39:22.503 --> 00:39:25.346
And also from the... Are we

00:39:25.385 --> 00:39:26.427
getting into foundation

00:39:26.467 --> 00:39:28.188
versus dev team versus

00:39:28.309 --> 00:39:31.650
company that is USDC financial?

00:39:31.831 --> 00:39:33.632
It's a partnership of some sort, right?

00:39:33.652 --> 00:39:34.612
There has to be some sort of

00:39:34.632 --> 00:39:35.193
partnership here.

00:39:35.534 --> 00:39:36.815
But what is the exact

00:39:36.875 --> 00:39:37.916
structure behind this?

00:39:39.336 --> 00:39:40.117
I don't even know.

00:39:40.539 --> 00:39:42.840
Who even owns that GitHub, you said?

00:39:43.141 --> 00:39:44.681
It has to be licensed, right?

00:39:45.702 --> 00:39:46.742
Circle have to be selling

00:39:46.782 --> 00:39:48.063
these as like a licensed

00:39:48.083 --> 00:39:50.182
structure because why would they?

00:39:52.244 --> 00:39:52.704
But why?

00:39:53.523 --> 00:39:53.724
I mean,

00:39:54.105 --> 00:39:55.545
they could have wrote this themselves.

00:39:55.565 --> 00:39:56.065
They don't have to have

00:39:56.125 --> 00:39:57.246
Noble be a third party, right?

00:39:57.306 --> 00:39:59.485
So what's up, Schultz?

00:40:00.666 --> 00:40:00.766
Oh.

00:40:01.943 --> 00:40:04.684
That was a, that wasn't, I was like,

00:40:04.824 --> 00:40:05.664
I was like, sure.

00:40:05.704 --> 00:40:08.405
So you got a hand up to, uh, to,

00:40:09.626 --> 00:40:11.027
to tell us the answer to that question.

00:40:11.047 --> 00:40:12.568
No, no, he just,

00:40:12.927 --> 00:40:14.228
just handed in the Irish goodbye.

00:40:14.248 --> 00:40:16.688
That sounds like he just

00:40:16.728 --> 00:40:18.010
disappeared without even waving.

00:40:18.070 --> 00:40:18.550
That would be,

00:40:18.610 --> 00:40:19.690
that would be an Irish goodbye.

00:40:19.731 --> 00:40:22.692
That sounds like a baby thing.

00:40:22.711 --> 00:40:23.932
She will see that pretty tired.

00:40:23.952 --> 00:40:26.534
I think he probably, maybe,

00:40:26.713 --> 00:40:28.114
maybe he's realized if he

00:40:28.195 --> 00:40:29.994
drops the show right now,

00:40:30.014 --> 00:40:31.456
he can get 30 minutes of sleep.

00:40:33.958 --> 00:40:35.980
That would be totally legit.

00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.101
That would be a pretty good use of time,

00:40:38.161 --> 00:40:40.161
I would say, for a man in his position.

00:40:43.222 --> 00:40:44.483
We've got to space these babies up more.

00:40:47.105 --> 00:40:48.045
No, this is not good, man.

00:40:48.764 --> 00:40:49.184
No,

00:40:49.286 --> 00:40:52.766
it's about to experience two weeks from

00:40:52.806 --> 00:40:52.947
now.

00:40:53.007 --> 00:40:54.208
It's just going to be the

00:40:54.228 --> 00:40:55.568
Frey and I sitting on this podcast.

00:40:56.188 --> 00:40:57.009
I'm on the countdown to fucked.

00:40:57.088 --> 00:40:57.268
Yeah.

00:41:00.853 --> 00:41:02.474
You're on the highway.

00:41:02.835 --> 00:41:03.795
No, it's great.

00:41:04.414 --> 00:41:07.155
It's fantastic.

00:41:07.295 --> 00:41:10.456
I want to bitch about internet provisions.

00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:15.998
What is that?

00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:17.619
How can it possibly take a

00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:20.701
supplier six weeks to

00:41:20.721 --> 00:41:22.280
provide an internet

00:41:22.300 --> 00:41:24.282
connection in a data center?

00:41:25.643 --> 00:41:27.003
That seems to be excessive.

00:41:27.023 --> 00:41:28.824
Because you've chosen the wrong supplier.

00:41:28.884 --> 00:41:29.543
Next question.

00:41:30.130 --> 00:41:30.311
Well,

00:41:30.431 --> 00:41:32.052
usually those suppliers are telcos

00:41:32.672 --> 00:41:34.273
and telcos don't give a shit.

00:41:35.014 --> 00:41:36.855
It's a telco and they don't give a shit.

00:41:36.875 --> 00:41:37.034
Yeah.

00:41:37.054 --> 00:41:37.635
They don't give a shit.

00:41:37.655 --> 00:41:39.516
I remember not to date myself,

00:41:39.556 --> 00:41:41.237
but back in like the, in the nineties,

00:41:41.257 --> 00:41:42.298
we used to put in like T1

00:41:42.539 --> 00:41:44.260
lines all the time for each, but like,

00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:45.119
and also in the two thousands,

00:41:45.141 --> 00:41:46.661
like split in T1 lines for

00:41:46.701 --> 00:41:47.762
data or for phone.

00:41:47.822 --> 00:41:47.961
Right.

00:41:47.981 --> 00:41:49.123
Cause you have 24 bond

00:41:49.143 --> 00:41:51.023
channels on a T1 to get 24 phone lines.

00:41:51.905 --> 00:41:52.945
And those guys,

00:41:53.106 --> 00:41:54.166
they would plan out like

00:41:54.445 --> 00:41:55.266
four to five months.

00:41:56.768 --> 00:41:56.907
Like,

00:41:57.918 --> 00:41:59.501
Yeah, we'll get that out there,

00:41:59.641 --> 00:42:01.083
and this will take this long,

00:42:01.103 --> 00:42:02.065
and this will take this long,

00:42:02.085 --> 00:42:02.646
and then we'll ship the

00:42:02.686 --> 00:42:04.128
hardware in fucking June,

00:42:04.148 --> 00:42:05.590
and then we'll be out there in October.

00:42:05.610 --> 00:42:06.291
Dude,

00:42:06.311 --> 00:42:07.954
we need a fucking phone line tomorrow.

00:42:08.454 --> 00:42:09.737
Like, let's go.

00:42:12.023 --> 00:42:13.764
he's in the telco industry

00:42:14.143 --> 00:42:14.965
and he says it's the

00:42:15.045 --> 00:42:16.445
ordering process that takes

00:42:16.485 --> 00:42:18.146
the longest man it's it's

00:42:18.967 --> 00:42:20.007
like everything's there

00:42:20.447 --> 00:42:21.827
they literally have to like

00:42:21.889 --> 00:42:22.688
provision it in their

00:42:22.728 --> 00:42:25.690
software and install like

00:42:26.331 --> 00:42:27.831
an sfp or whatever they do

00:42:27.871 --> 00:42:31.112
with their splicing and any

00:42:32.193 --> 00:42:34.454
batch of bite I can confirm

00:42:34.534 --> 00:42:35.936
telcos don't give a shit

00:42:36.416 --> 00:42:37.175
they're on their own look

00:42:37.617 --> 00:42:38.177
where are they going

00:42:38.608 --> 00:42:39.610
Nobody's taking shit for weight.

00:42:39.650 --> 00:42:40.789
Like, like if somebody,

00:42:40.929 --> 00:42:42.371
if they bring in fiber in for you,

00:42:42.972 --> 00:42:43.271
they're not,

00:42:43.532 --> 00:42:44.552
nobody else is coming to do that.

00:42:44.592 --> 00:42:47.195
So they have like, it's like, yeah.

00:42:47.215 --> 00:42:48.795
The fiber is already there, man.

00:42:48.896 --> 00:42:49.715
The fiber is there.

00:42:49.735 --> 00:42:51.056
I gotta go flip the switch.

00:42:52.077 --> 00:42:52.998
They gotta go like,

00:42:53.958 --> 00:42:56.039
so I was in the splicing room yesterday,

00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:56.320
right?

00:42:56.380 --> 00:42:57.900
In the, in the, you know,

00:42:57.920 --> 00:42:59.481
the fucking room.

00:43:00.023 --> 00:43:00.202
Yeah.

00:43:00.342 --> 00:43:02.684
And like they do.

00:43:03.244 --> 00:43:07.527
So I need structured cabling from my rack.

00:43:08.447 --> 00:43:11.809
to the splicing rack in the dungeon.

00:43:12.750 --> 00:43:14.150
And that's done.

00:43:14.411 --> 00:43:15.650
That's got nothing to do with them.

00:43:16.371 --> 00:43:17.472
I need to order a cross

00:43:17.512 --> 00:43:19.813
connect to get my

00:43:19.873 --> 00:43:20.695
structured cabling

00:43:20.735 --> 00:43:22.255
connected to their structured cabling.

00:43:23.056 --> 00:43:24.617
That's a day, right?

00:43:24.896 --> 00:43:25.036
Yeah.

00:43:25.978 --> 00:43:27.458
But on their end,

00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.000
they need to provision the

00:43:30.721 --> 00:43:32.922
service through their software, right?

00:43:32.961 --> 00:43:34.963
Like the IP transit and all

00:43:34.983 --> 00:43:35.583
that type of stuff.

00:43:36.552 --> 00:43:37.532
I imagine most of that

00:43:37.592 --> 00:43:41.074
software and then they need

00:43:41.153 --> 00:43:45.335
to connect it then to the, um, DMARC rack,

00:43:46.356 --> 00:43:48.056
which is where all the com, uh, where,

00:43:48.097 --> 00:43:50.056
where all the, uh, you know,

00:43:50.097 --> 00:43:52.018
the telco stuff is in a separate spot.

00:43:52.757 --> 00:43:53.878
It's, you know,

00:43:53.958 --> 00:43:54.759
the cross connects and that

00:43:54.798 --> 00:43:59.320
is like a couple of days and the,

00:43:59.820 --> 00:44:00.940
like the order provisioning

00:44:00.981 --> 00:44:01.701
on their system,

00:44:01.740 --> 00:44:02.900
I guess is what takes the time.

00:44:02.940 --> 00:44:04.021
It's just, it's crazy.

00:44:04.541 --> 00:44:05.222
It even says, um,

00:44:06.077 --> 00:44:07.039
Like in their portal,

00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:10.481
it says that the build is done, right,

00:44:11.003 --> 00:44:12.384
after like two weeks.

00:44:13.344 --> 00:44:15.686
But they're testing the

00:44:15.746 --> 00:44:17.869
service has been there for like a week.

00:44:17.889 --> 00:44:18.849
Okay.

00:44:21.351 --> 00:44:23.233
What kind of fucking tests are you doing,

00:44:23.273 --> 00:44:23.492
man?

00:44:25.335 --> 00:44:26.635
Like 200 monkeys panging on

00:44:26.675 --> 00:44:27.516
keyboards and shit trying

00:44:27.536 --> 00:44:29.356
to make sure the route works.

00:44:29.376 --> 00:44:29.717
Exactly.

00:44:30.237 --> 00:44:30.938
Well, actually, sorry.

00:44:30.998 --> 00:44:31.998
No, that was wrong.

00:44:32.699 --> 00:44:35.260
So design service started on the 6th.

00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:38.503
Build service finished on the 26th.

00:44:38.643 --> 00:44:43.045
So 20 days between designing and building.

00:44:43.065 --> 00:44:44.106
Yeah.

00:44:45.208 --> 00:44:46.048
and now they're testing.

00:44:46.289 --> 00:44:46.688
So that's,

00:44:47.568 --> 00:44:48.650
they've been testing for like

00:44:48.690 --> 00:44:49.349
three or four days.

00:44:49.369 --> 00:44:50.610
Yeah.

00:44:50.630 --> 00:44:52.592
Um, cause mostly, I mean, honestly,

00:44:52.612 --> 00:44:52.911
most of these,

00:44:52.931 --> 00:44:54.132
they go for years and years.

00:44:54.152 --> 00:44:55.313
So they're like, yeah, it takes time.

00:44:55.574 --> 00:44:57.954
Like, Oh man.

00:44:57.994 --> 00:44:59.416
So you, so there's no service in the rack.

00:44:59.476 --> 00:45:00.396
Is that what, is that what you're saying?

00:45:00.996 --> 00:45:01.918
Got no service in the rack.

00:45:01.938 --> 00:45:02.577
You came in like,

00:45:02.677 --> 00:45:03.739
you came in like Nat to

00:45:03.759 --> 00:45:05.260
something else that the DC has on,

00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:06.659
on nothing.

00:45:07.900 --> 00:45:09.722
No, it is pretty nifty though.

00:45:09.882 --> 00:45:11.063
Um, in terms of like,

00:45:12.014 --> 00:45:13.454
If I had another rack in there,

00:45:13.994 --> 00:45:15.494
say I already had internet in my rack,

00:45:15.534 --> 00:45:15.735
right?

00:45:16.355 --> 00:45:16.914
Yeah.

00:45:17.414 --> 00:45:18.375
In this DC.

00:45:19.195 --> 00:45:21.135
And if I wanted to get another rack, right,

00:45:21.195 --> 00:45:22.155
I don't have to go out and

00:45:22.175 --> 00:45:22.996
get another internet

00:45:23.036 --> 00:45:23.976
connection for that rack.

00:45:24.056 --> 00:45:26.117
I can just get like, yeah,

00:45:26.157 --> 00:45:27.217
I just get across.

00:45:27.336 --> 00:45:28.356
Once I've got the,

00:45:28.777 --> 00:45:29.958
it's called structured cabling.

00:45:30.038 --> 00:45:31.257
Once the cabling's in,

00:45:32.757 --> 00:45:35.259
then like I can connect to

00:45:35.259 --> 00:45:36.818
12 other things with that

00:45:36.978 --> 00:45:38.378
one lot of structured

00:45:38.398 --> 00:45:42.335
cabling because it's got 12.

00:45:42.335 --> 00:45:43.375
It's got 12 fibers in it.

00:45:43.536 --> 00:45:44.695
So I don't know why you're

00:45:44.735 --> 00:45:45.775
so amazed with that because

00:45:45.795 --> 00:45:46.597
that seems like there's a

00:45:46.657 --> 00:45:47.376
run of the kibble from,

00:45:47.916 --> 00:45:48.538
from here to there.

00:45:49.697 --> 00:45:50.778
That seems like the easiest piece.

00:45:51.838 --> 00:45:52.099
Yeah.

00:45:52.338 --> 00:45:54.079
They don't even do that though.

00:45:54.099 --> 00:45:57.021
Like it all goes back to the one, you know,

00:45:57.081 --> 00:45:58.001
like patching room.

00:45:58.722 --> 00:45:59.362
Yeah.

00:46:01.463 --> 00:46:01.563
Yeah.

00:46:01.583 --> 00:46:02.364
It's just, you know,

00:46:03.284 --> 00:46:04.364
if you had a rack there, we could,

00:46:04.644 --> 00:46:05.784
I could cross connect to

00:46:05.824 --> 00:46:06.605
your rack and we could,

00:46:06.664 --> 00:46:07.865
I would not touch tips.

00:46:13.733 --> 00:46:14.114
Hi.

00:46:14.153 --> 00:46:16.577
Can I get access to this archive?

00:46:17.539 --> 00:46:18.900
I'm amazed by the small things.

00:46:19.541 --> 00:46:19.661
For $1,000?

00:46:19.702 --> 00:46:20.422
Yeah, man, for $1,000.

00:46:21.844 --> 00:46:27.474
What else is going on here, man?

00:46:28.034 --> 00:46:28.514
I am just...

00:46:29.706 --> 00:46:30.568
I'm just sitting here

00:46:30.947 --> 00:46:32.208
waiting for this to end so

00:46:32.268 --> 00:46:34.110
I can fucking go back to writing Ansible.

00:46:37.072 --> 00:46:37.472
Amazing.

00:46:37.492 --> 00:46:41.115
That's what my week has boiled down to.

00:46:41.135 --> 00:46:43.918
I'm sorry we're interrupting

00:46:43.958 --> 00:46:46.860
your wanking around with Ansible.

00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:48.940
Well, I'm in the Ansible zone.

00:46:49.121 --> 00:46:50.202
You know when you get in the

00:46:50.222 --> 00:46:51.063
zone of something and it's

00:46:51.302 --> 00:46:52.083
all you can think about?

00:46:52.123 --> 00:46:53.204
You're taking a shit and you're like,

00:46:53.304 --> 00:46:55.025
I can improve that by doing this thing.

00:46:55.065 --> 00:46:56.266
By the way, that is really...

00:46:57.202 --> 00:46:58.681
It doesn't really happen.

00:46:58.702 --> 00:46:59.802
Trying to snap it off so you

00:46:59.822 --> 00:47:00.503
can get back to it.

00:47:01.922 --> 00:47:02.422
Make it happen.

00:47:03.503 --> 00:47:03.983
I don't know.

00:47:04.443 --> 00:47:09.204
I did that for 15 years of my life.

00:47:10.304 --> 00:47:10.844
Honestly, for me,

00:47:10.864 --> 00:47:12.606
it kind of goes in cycles.

00:47:12.726 --> 00:47:13.746
At some point,

00:47:13.806 --> 00:47:16.106
I'm working on this shit for

00:47:16.367 --> 00:47:17.666
infrastructure and tooling for a month,

00:47:17.706 --> 00:47:18.567
and then I ignore it.

00:47:18.827 --> 00:47:19.487
I just run it.

00:47:19.686 --> 00:47:20.547
If there's something wrong,

00:47:20.867 --> 00:47:21.688
I just work around it.

00:47:21.847 --> 00:47:25.028
That stupid fucking Zabbix

00:47:25.048 --> 00:47:25.989
thing we were talking about before,

00:47:26.889 --> 00:47:28.190
I didn't even, I didn't want to go fix it.

00:47:28.369 --> 00:47:29.510
So like I would run that,

00:47:29.590 --> 00:47:30.331
it would put the wrong

00:47:30.351 --> 00:47:31.211
config file in there and I

00:47:31.231 --> 00:47:32.172
would manually go,

00:47:32.432 --> 00:47:33.273
every time I added the server,

00:47:33.293 --> 00:47:34.514
I would go manually go fuck

00:47:34.554 --> 00:47:36.175
that file up because I knew

00:47:36.195 --> 00:47:37.036
what the issue was.

00:47:37.056 --> 00:47:38.016
I would just go fucking do it.

00:47:38.137 --> 00:47:38.916
And I did that for like a

00:47:39.117 --> 00:47:40.557
month and a half because like,

00:47:40.617 --> 00:47:41.318
I don't want to get into

00:47:41.338 --> 00:47:42.179
this stupid shit right now.

00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:42.760
Like I don't care.

00:47:42.780 --> 00:47:44.581
I've been manually

00:47:44.621 --> 00:47:46.661
installing Zabbix for about three months.

00:47:48.643 --> 00:47:49.523
And now I flipped the other way.

00:47:49.543 --> 00:47:51.065
I was like, I'm fucking solving this.

00:47:51.105 --> 00:47:51.606
God damn it.

00:47:51.626 --> 00:47:53.186
Like I'm fixing this fucking problem.

00:47:53.971 --> 00:47:54.791
Well, yeah.

00:47:54.811 --> 00:47:55.871
You know, and then you fix that one.

00:47:55.891 --> 00:47:56.612
You're like, fuck man.

00:47:56.632 --> 00:47:57.893
There's like about 25 other

00:47:57.913 --> 00:47:59.014
things that need fixing as well.

00:47:59.034 --> 00:47:59.773
That's what I was doing.

00:47:59.793 --> 00:48:00.074
Yeah.

00:48:00.293 --> 00:48:00.934
I saw like, I,

00:48:01.335 --> 00:48:02.054
I've been doing a lot with

00:48:02.094 --> 00:48:03.456
like EVM chains and just,

00:48:03.815 --> 00:48:05.197
just fucking rocking that shit out.

00:48:05.597 --> 00:48:07.338
And the other one, and also Zabbix because,

00:48:07.358 --> 00:48:07.938
or not Zabbix.

00:48:08.018 --> 00:48:08.217
Yeah.

00:48:08.237 --> 00:48:10.099
Zabbix, the templates because of you,

00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:11.659
because you're like,

00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:12.280
I'm fixing this thing.

00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:13.920
And you, and you got, you started it.

00:48:14.601 --> 00:48:15.282
And then you flipped it over

00:48:15.322 --> 00:48:16.764
the fence and then I was like, all right,

00:48:16.784 --> 00:48:17.804
I'm fixing this fucking thing.

00:48:18.043 --> 00:48:19.204
Oh, the, the AVM thing.

00:48:19.224 --> 00:48:19.846
Yeah, I do that.

00:48:19.925 --> 00:48:20.126
Yeah.

00:48:20.166 --> 00:48:21.447
That and also the Solana one.

00:48:21.487 --> 00:48:22.568
And now I'm starting to look

00:48:22.608 --> 00:48:23.827
at the cosmos one because I

00:48:24.628 --> 00:48:26.329
want to fix and just make some change.

00:48:26.389 --> 00:48:27.990
Like I want to do public RPC checks.

00:48:28.010 --> 00:48:29.231
I want to actually do that

00:48:29.291 --> 00:48:30.753
automatically of cosmos directory.

00:48:31.253 --> 00:48:32.353
There's a bunch of things I want to do.

00:48:32.393 --> 00:48:33.594
And also we're only doing

00:48:33.635 --> 00:48:34.916
execution layer on the EVM side.

00:48:34.956 --> 00:48:35.757
I want to do the consensus

00:48:35.836 --> 00:48:37.617
engine and start doing some

00:48:37.657 --> 00:48:38.518
better monitoring of that

00:48:38.699 --> 00:48:40.860
as a sub and like just all

00:48:40.900 --> 00:48:41.780
this other shit.

00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:43.282
And then if I do that and I need to,

00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:44.619
go back in the ansible and

00:48:44.659 --> 00:48:45.860
you have like I i already

00:48:45.981 --> 00:48:47.380
use like port prefixes on

00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:49.461
the evm side and so now I

00:48:49.481 --> 00:48:50.101
got to go back and go to

00:48:50.121 --> 00:48:51.161
the consensus side I gotta

00:48:51.181 --> 00:48:52.021
open up all these ports

00:48:52.061 --> 00:48:53.983
like all this shit so it

00:48:54.003 --> 00:48:54.943
just turns into a big thing

00:48:55.722 --> 00:48:56.643
I'm not a real big

00:48:56.842 --> 00:48:58.543
polishing guy I'm like a

00:48:58.804 --> 00:49:00.204
I'm a big 80 percent guy

00:49:00.864 --> 00:49:03.125
yeah good enough that's why

00:49:03.164 --> 00:49:04.025
we work that's why we're

00:49:04.085 --> 00:49:05.266
all together that's why

00:49:05.286 --> 00:49:06.206
that's why we work well

00:49:06.226 --> 00:49:06.806
together because you do it

00:49:06.826 --> 00:49:07.726
you're like I got all the

00:49:07.746 --> 00:49:08.547
stats but I'm not doing the

00:49:08.567 --> 00:49:09.927
fucking triggers it's like god damn it

00:49:11.282 --> 00:49:12.523
all right I'm doing all the

00:49:12.583 --> 00:49:13.664
triggers all right you're

00:49:14.105 --> 00:49:14.704
like I'm not doing any

00:49:14.726 --> 00:49:15.485
graphs I'm like all right

00:49:15.505 --> 00:49:16.226
I'll do the fucking graphs

00:49:17.648 --> 00:49:18.568
yeah because that's like

00:49:18.588 --> 00:49:19.250
you know that's and I

00:49:19.309 --> 00:49:20.851
question your data then I

00:49:20.891 --> 00:49:21.652
question your data

00:49:21.791 --> 00:49:22.612
gathering I was like why

00:49:22.632 --> 00:49:23.632
the fuck are you doing this

00:49:24.514 --> 00:49:25.355
I'm like I'm redoing this

00:49:25.514 --> 00:49:26.516
and then you tell me why

00:49:26.615 --> 00:49:27.797
because everything I read

00:49:27.817 --> 00:49:28.557
all of our conversations

00:49:28.597 --> 00:49:29.498
are delayed by a day

00:49:29.518 --> 00:49:32.021
because it got yeah time zones so i

00:49:32.739 --> 00:49:33.518
So at 9 a.m.,

00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:34.820
I'm changing all this shit

00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:35.659
because you're asleep.

00:49:36.141 --> 00:49:37.201
And then you wake up and I go,

00:49:37.221 --> 00:49:37.880
why the hell did you do this?

00:49:37.900 --> 00:49:38.621
You go, because of this.

00:49:38.641 --> 00:49:39.621
I was like, oh, that's really good.

00:49:39.702 --> 00:49:40.503
That's a really good reason.

00:49:41.322 --> 00:49:42.403
Then I go undo all this shit.

00:49:42.423 --> 00:49:45.985
I just change it all the way.

00:49:46.005 --> 00:49:46.885
I go undo all that shit.

00:49:46.905 --> 00:49:47.846
It's like, okay, that makes sense.

00:49:48.326 --> 00:49:48.927
That makes sense.

00:49:49.387 --> 00:49:51.527
When I read that you like undo that,

00:49:51.547 --> 00:49:52.648
I was like so pissed off.

00:49:52.668 --> 00:49:53.429
I was like, fuck it.

00:49:53.528 --> 00:49:53.789
I know.

00:49:53.829 --> 00:49:55.289
I do it for your Discord.

00:49:55.309 --> 00:49:56.909
I was like, I undo it.

00:49:57.130 --> 00:49:57.690
Yeah, this could be.

00:49:57.751 --> 00:49:57.971
Yeah.

00:49:59.184 --> 00:50:00.184
like I thought real hard

00:50:00.204 --> 00:50:00.844
about that while I was

00:50:00.885 --> 00:50:03.626
taking a and then you know

00:50:03.726 --> 00:50:04.626
robert says this

00:50:04.686 --> 00:50:05.686
conversation could be a dm

00:50:06.186 --> 00:50:07.427
it it number one it is

00:50:07.628 --> 00:50:08.827
automatic it is already but

00:50:09.228 --> 00:50:11.628
it is a dm yeah I mean that

00:50:11.829 --> 00:50:12.929
that is to some extent this

00:50:12.969 --> 00:50:16.070
entire podcast but it is it

00:50:16.150 --> 00:50:18.012
is exactly it's just it's

00:50:18.032 --> 00:50:19.492
just it's just broadcasting

00:50:19.512 --> 00:50:20.452
the group call that's all

00:50:20.512 --> 00:50:27.056
it is you know interestingly my uh

00:50:28.413 --> 00:50:28.893
Like,

00:50:29.054 --> 00:50:33.137
the Discord notifications broke about

00:50:33.217 --> 00:50:33.918
nine months ago.

00:50:33.938 --> 00:50:36.579
What do you mean?

00:50:37.061 --> 00:50:39.663
The Zabbix Discord notifications,

00:50:39.722 --> 00:50:40.824
the webhook thing broke.

00:50:41.344 --> 00:50:42.125
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:42.284 --> 00:50:43.166
About nine months ago.

00:50:43.186 --> 00:50:43.266
Yeah.

00:50:44.487 --> 00:50:46.849
And, like, I couldn't fix it,

00:50:46.949 --> 00:50:48.851
so I just made it Slack instead.

00:50:48.871 --> 00:50:49.652
Yeah.

00:50:53.918 --> 00:50:55.740
I don't know what's wrong with it.

00:50:55.780 --> 00:50:56.101
You know,

00:50:56.221 --> 00:50:58.362
everybody has energy to do some

00:50:58.402 --> 00:50:59.463
things and not others.

00:50:59.543 --> 00:51:00.184
And that's just,

00:51:00.244 --> 00:51:01.565
it's different for every person.

00:51:03.007 --> 00:51:04.347
I figure if you can't fix

00:51:04.367 --> 00:51:06.510
something in a day, it's really fucked.

00:51:07.110 --> 00:51:08.431
And then just move on.

00:51:08.452 --> 00:51:10.253
A day?

00:51:10.452 --> 00:51:10.713
Wow.

00:51:11.034 --> 00:51:12.755
I mean, if you can't fix it in a day,

00:51:12.775 --> 00:51:13.695
you ain't fixing it, right?

00:51:15.438 --> 00:51:16.177
Or it's not worth fixing.

00:51:17.460 --> 00:51:17.760
Fuck it.

00:51:18.601 --> 00:51:18.860
I mean...

00:51:20.831 --> 00:51:21.931
For infrastructure,

00:51:21.992 --> 00:51:23.572
that's probably the case.

00:51:23.753 --> 00:51:25.934
For software, I think, no.

00:51:26.554 --> 00:51:28.416
No, there's plenty of things.

00:51:28.456 --> 00:51:30.137
Well, I mean, in this context,

00:51:30.277 --> 00:51:31.137
it's something that was

00:51:31.217 --> 00:51:32.719
working and then all of a

00:51:32.759 --> 00:51:34.820
sudden wasn't without changing anything.

00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:36.222
Yeah.

00:51:36.961 --> 00:51:38.143
And if you can't find an

00:51:38.182 --> 00:51:40.025
obvious reason within a day, it's like,

00:51:40.364 --> 00:51:43.547
well, this is something under the hood.

00:51:44.407 --> 00:51:45.527
If you can't find a smoking

00:51:45.547 --> 00:51:47.230
gun within a day, you're in trouble.

00:51:47.250 --> 00:51:47.630
Yeah.

00:51:48.150 --> 00:51:49.210
for sure yeah it's

00:51:49.271 --> 00:51:50.192
definitely some under the

00:51:50.231 --> 00:51:51.251
hood shit that I'm not

00:51:51.291 --> 00:51:53.452
getting into so I feel like

00:51:53.532 --> 00:51:54.454
the only way to fix it

00:51:54.474 --> 00:51:55.293
would be to rebuild the

00:51:55.333 --> 00:51:56.695
stack which I am not doing

00:51:58.494 --> 00:51:59.356
it's probably oh except

00:51:59.396 --> 00:52:01.217
when we move to v7 sir

00:52:01.297 --> 00:52:02.657
that's gonna be fun that's

00:52:02.677 --> 00:52:04.018
gonna be awesome yeah well

00:52:04.938 --> 00:52:05.697
which we need to do at the

00:52:05.717 --> 00:52:06.599
same time because now we're

00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:07.498
joining at the fucking hip

00:52:08.300 --> 00:52:09.719
well I feel like we've been

00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:10.981
marinating on that already

00:52:11.021 --> 00:52:12.601
for fucking two months is

00:52:12.641 --> 00:52:14.481
it is it live yeah it's

00:52:14.541 --> 00:52:16.182
live oh it's like in production

00:52:17.215 --> 00:52:19.416
Yeah, I'm sure there'll be a 7.4 soon.

00:52:19.597 --> 00:52:22.297
They seem to skip to .4 pretty quick.

00:52:22.577 --> 00:52:24.518
Maybe I will take it back up

00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:26.280
and dump that database and

00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:28.161
bring it somewhere else and

00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:28.800
see how it looks.

00:52:29.621 --> 00:52:30.081
See what's up.

00:52:31.443 --> 00:52:37.905
Yeah, it's got good HA features now.

00:52:38.186 --> 00:52:39.246
It's changed and stuff and

00:52:39.266 --> 00:52:40.407
it's got some good async shit.

00:52:40.686 --> 00:52:41.806
So hopefully it'll stop

00:52:41.847 --> 00:52:42.768
getting gaps in the data.

00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:46.400
So I did read the release notes.

00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:46.942
It looks pretty,

00:52:47.461 --> 00:52:51.346
pretty exciting from a Knops perspective.

00:52:51.987 --> 00:52:53.268
But, you know,

00:52:53.288 --> 00:52:54.829
it also like every time

00:52:54.849 --> 00:52:56.150
there's an upgrade, it breaks shit.

00:52:56.231 --> 00:52:58.612
So joy.

00:52:58.713 --> 00:52:58.954
Yep.

00:52:59.594 --> 00:52:59.934
Joy.

00:53:00.934 --> 00:53:02.697
Yeah.

00:53:04.518 --> 00:53:06.661
Although I will do it.

00:53:08.657 --> 00:53:09.097
Very soon.

00:53:10.018 --> 00:53:13.139
Hopefully before Null Junior arrives.

00:53:14.420 --> 00:53:14.739
Oh, shit.

00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:15.360
That's really soon.

00:53:16.081 --> 00:53:17.661
Why don't you wait six months?

00:53:19.641 --> 00:53:20.561
Let's give it some time first.

00:53:20.601 --> 00:53:22.862
I don't want to do that right now.

00:53:22.922 --> 00:53:24.864
Because before important life events,

00:53:24.923 --> 00:53:27.344
I like to evaluate everything.

00:53:27.625 --> 00:53:29.465
And if it ain't broke, broke it.

00:53:30.146 --> 00:53:32.427
Yeah, exactly.

00:53:32.746 --> 00:53:34.367
I think really fucking

00:53:34.407 --> 00:53:35.307
around with the most stable

00:53:35.327 --> 00:53:36.007
thing that you have.

00:53:36.931 --> 00:53:38.273
yeah the most stable most

00:53:38.333 --> 00:53:40.315
important part of my stack

00:53:40.655 --> 00:53:41.996
let's start fucking around

00:53:42.036 --> 00:53:44.257
with that when a minute

00:53:44.297 --> 00:53:44.898
before you don't know

00:53:44.918 --> 00:53:45.438
what's going to happen

00:53:45.478 --> 00:53:47.559
tomorrow yeah exactly yeah

00:53:49.061 --> 00:53:51.402
we're kind of uh we're kind

00:53:51.422 --> 00:53:52.784
of like at that point now

00:53:52.824 --> 00:53:54.264
where you know there is

00:53:54.346 --> 00:53:55.425
like a date but it could

00:53:55.465 --> 00:53:57.467
happen at any time so yeah

00:53:57.507 --> 00:53:59.670
sure yeah well they always

00:53:59.690 --> 00:54:01.331
say first kids I think

00:54:02.742 --> 00:54:03.422
I don't know if it happened

00:54:03.543 --> 00:54:04.202
that way for us.

00:54:04.222 --> 00:54:06.164
I don't remember what our

00:54:06.184 --> 00:54:07.465
original due date was with our first,

00:54:07.525 --> 00:54:08.826
but usually first kids bake

00:54:08.846 --> 00:54:09.425
a little bit longer,

00:54:10.487 --> 00:54:11.387
and then second kids

00:54:11.407 --> 00:54:12.228
sometimes can come out a

00:54:12.248 --> 00:54:12.788
little bit faster.

00:54:14.268 --> 00:54:16.451
That's the accepted wisdom, isn't it?

00:54:17.030 --> 00:54:17.891
Yeah, I think so.

00:54:18.672 --> 00:54:21.152
But again, depends on... I mean,

00:54:22.333 --> 00:54:23.775
you talked about size.

00:54:23.815 --> 00:54:26.416
That was our issue too, which was like, oh,

00:54:26.456 --> 00:54:26.577
like...

00:54:27.728 --> 00:54:28.807
baby's too big and blah blah

00:54:28.827 --> 00:54:29.989
blah and all that which was

00:54:30.028 --> 00:54:30.748
total horseshit like it

00:54:30.789 --> 00:54:31.929
totally totally wasn't like

00:54:31.949 --> 00:54:32.969
there's the stuff to

00:54:33.030 --> 00:54:33.849
measure the size of this

00:54:33.889 --> 00:54:37.050
kid like in the weight well

00:54:37.210 --> 00:54:38.190
so they don't really know

00:54:38.210 --> 00:54:39.112
there's no even with an

00:54:39.192 --> 00:54:40.632
ultrasound there's no it's

00:54:40.871 --> 00:54:42.693
it's all just something

00:54:42.793 --> 00:54:43.753
that's working yeah they're

00:54:43.773 --> 00:54:44.612
measuring and then they're

00:54:44.632 --> 00:54:45.492
trying to do some sort of

00:54:45.574 --> 00:54:46.793
averages the big thing is

00:54:46.813 --> 00:54:47.753
that there's like a tipping

00:54:47.813 --> 00:54:48.815
point where you're like

00:54:48.855 --> 00:54:49.775
technically at term

00:54:50.777 --> 00:54:53.981
And if you go and you have

00:54:54.201 --> 00:54:55.762
any medical consultation

00:54:56.081 --> 00:54:57.302
where at some point a

00:54:57.322 --> 00:55:01.586
doctor says something like, well,

00:55:04.588 --> 00:55:05.909
should we be on the safe side?

00:55:06.070 --> 00:55:07.530
At that point, you know,

00:55:07.550 --> 00:55:08.472
you're about to go to

00:55:08.532 --> 00:55:09.932
hospital and not leave

00:55:10.112 --> 00:55:11.894
until you have a child in your hands.

00:55:12.534 --> 00:55:13.536
And what I would very

00:55:13.596 --> 00:55:14.757
strongly recommend is,

00:55:15.802 --> 00:55:17.103
is not doing what we did and

00:55:17.143 --> 00:55:18.523
assume that you're about to

00:55:19.164 --> 00:55:20.786
pop in for an hour and then

00:55:20.846 --> 00:55:22.146
get out and then continue

00:55:22.206 --> 00:55:23.588
on to your anniversary lunch.

00:55:24.048 --> 00:55:27.010
Instead, you're coming over story.

00:55:27.771 --> 00:55:28.192
Instead,

00:55:28.251 --> 00:55:31.253
assume that you are in for a

00:55:31.293 --> 00:55:32.275
potentially one to

00:55:32.315 --> 00:55:35.697
multi-day ordeal and you

00:55:35.717 --> 00:55:36.778
will never sleep again.

00:55:36.798 --> 00:55:36.858
Yep.

00:55:40.788 --> 00:55:42.969
yeah I believe we're like

00:55:43.309 --> 00:55:45.068
we're on the 50th 50th

00:55:45.108 --> 00:55:46.309
percentile for like every

00:55:46.349 --> 00:55:49.070
metric you know the 52nd

00:55:49.090 --> 00:55:51.471
percentile size weight well

00:55:51.490 --> 00:55:52.411
you find out when they come

00:55:52.510 --> 00:55:54.552
out the white stuff yeah

00:55:54.972 --> 00:55:57.012
yep we're on like we're on

00:55:57.032 --> 00:55:58.373
like the 10th or the 20th

00:55:58.413 --> 00:55:59.452
or whatever when they were

00:55:59.472 --> 00:56:00.853
like worried about it and

00:56:00.893 --> 00:56:04.235
then when it all child in

00:56:04.275 --> 00:56:04.875
hand it was 50th

00:56:07.853 --> 00:56:09.092
And 50th for weight,

00:56:09.114 --> 00:56:12.034
I think a 99th or 90th for length.

00:56:13.974 --> 00:56:14.255
Yeah.

00:56:14.936 --> 00:56:15.536
Yeah.

00:56:16.235 --> 00:56:16.635
Yeah.

00:56:16.695 --> 00:56:16.956
Crazy.

00:56:16.976 --> 00:56:17.976
Like hugely long.

00:56:18.297 --> 00:56:20.057
And that's why they were like, Oh,

00:56:20.117 --> 00:56:21.557
so this is why we had no fucking clue.

00:56:21.597 --> 00:56:22.559
And you're like, Oh,

00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.679
because the child was

00:56:25.739 --> 00:56:27.619
slightly longer than you anticipated.

00:56:27.659 --> 00:56:30.621
He could be a lot of

00:56:30.641 --> 00:56:32.661
responsibility for 2.7% of

00:56:32.722 --> 00:56:33.902
the mint and revenue numbers.

00:56:33.943 --> 00:56:34.483
I got to tell you.

00:56:37.023 --> 00:56:37.164
Yeah.

00:56:39.063 --> 00:56:41.565
He doesn't even get that

00:56:41.625 --> 00:56:44.967
callback to that great piece of thingy.

00:56:45.809 --> 00:56:48.010
I'm trying to understand my

00:56:48.050 --> 00:56:49.291
bank statement at the same time.

00:56:49.311 --> 00:56:52.373
That's a good time to do it.

00:56:53.534 --> 00:56:56.918
Right now, it's a fantastic time.

00:56:56.938 --> 00:56:58.559
Have you got everything in a

00:56:58.619 --> 00:57:01.061
pretty robust place for the

00:57:01.661 --> 00:57:03.603
level of fucked you're about to be?

00:57:06.134 --> 00:57:07.134
I'd say no.

00:57:07.193 --> 00:57:08.876
I've got so much shit to do.

00:57:09.476 --> 00:57:10.317
How's the baby room doing?

00:57:11.617 --> 00:57:12.398
Baby room's sorted.

00:57:12.978 --> 00:57:13.639
That's all sorted?

00:57:14.179 --> 00:57:15.440
All the baby stuff is sorted.

00:57:15.481 --> 00:57:16.782
It's been prioritized.

00:57:17.342 --> 00:57:18.643
You've got to go back.

00:57:18.762 --> 00:57:19.623
Everything's ready to go.

00:57:20.777 --> 00:57:22.197
I've got a lot of fucking, uh,

00:57:23.257 --> 00:57:24.737
like life admin to do though.

00:57:24.818 --> 00:57:27.079
Like, you know, reconciliation.

00:57:27.099 --> 00:57:29.599
Wait, you mean personal?

00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:30.800
When you're at the hospital,

00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:31.880
when you're at the hospital, right?

00:57:32.541 --> 00:57:33.860
You, you are fending for yourself.

00:57:33.981 --> 00:57:35.442
Nobody gives a fuck about you.

00:57:36.842 --> 00:57:39.184
So, you know,

00:57:40.644 --> 00:57:42.286
make sure you got a couple of

00:57:42.326 --> 00:57:43.007
fucking different.

00:57:43.586 --> 00:57:44.788
I saw the footstool I get to

00:57:44.807 --> 00:57:45.608
fucking sleep on.

00:57:45.829 --> 00:57:46.048
Yeah.

00:57:46.548 --> 00:57:46.949
Yeah.

00:57:47.110 --> 00:57:47.769
Well, that's what I'm saying.

00:57:47.809 --> 00:57:48.110
But like,

00:57:48.490 --> 00:57:49.550
it's all fun and games until

00:57:49.570 --> 00:57:50.751
you're there and you're like, oh fuck,

00:57:50.791 --> 00:57:51.532
I didn't throw the bottle

00:57:51.552 --> 00:57:52.634
of water or whatever in the

00:57:52.673 --> 00:57:55.014
go bag and the hospital canteens closed.

00:57:55.074 --> 00:57:56.655
Now you're fucked.

00:57:57.757 --> 00:57:59.579
My, my partner was like,

00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:00.338
what I'm saying is don't

00:58:00.378 --> 00:58:01.719
fucking worry about your answer boards.

00:58:01.820 --> 00:58:04.161
Make sure your go bag is, is,

00:58:05.795 --> 00:58:06.956
grade a and you've got a

00:58:06.996 --> 00:58:08.777
laptop a laptop power pack

00:58:08.838 --> 00:58:09.759
in there would be a smart

00:58:09.798 --> 00:58:11.179
bet as well yeah I had a

00:58:11.219 --> 00:58:15.021
laptop open that day so my

00:58:15.061 --> 00:58:15.922
wife was in labor because

00:58:15.943 --> 00:58:16.682
she was in labor for a long

00:58:16.722 --> 00:58:18.643
time I remember like having

00:58:18.664 --> 00:58:19.525
a laptop open that day

00:58:19.565 --> 00:58:21.565
fixing shit so should have

00:58:21.585 --> 00:58:23.306
so this the hospital where

00:58:23.347 --> 00:58:25.047
we're so kelly uh she's

00:58:25.088 --> 00:58:26.768
having a caesar right yeah

00:58:27.329 --> 00:58:28.409
she's doing a caesar and

00:58:28.431 --> 00:58:31.592
then um the the hospital is

00:58:31.652 --> 00:58:35.195
right by her parents house so um

00:58:36.880 --> 00:58:37.199
I don't know.

00:58:38.860 --> 00:58:40.282
We're talking yesterday and she's like,

00:58:40.722 --> 00:58:41.543
we're talking about, you know,

00:58:41.583 --> 00:58:42.322
public and private.

00:58:42.342 --> 00:58:43.284
She's like, well, you know,

00:58:44.043 --> 00:58:45.005
one of the main reasons

00:58:45.364 --> 00:58:47.525
we've got the private is so

00:58:47.565 --> 00:58:49.688
that you can have a place to sleep.

00:58:49.807 --> 00:58:50.088
I'm like,

00:58:50.108 --> 00:58:51.429
are you talking about that

00:58:51.548 --> 00:58:53.389
fucking footstool at the end of the bed?

00:58:53.469 --> 00:58:54.811
Like, you know,

00:58:54.851 --> 00:58:56.351
where the husband gets to fucking,

00:58:56.692 --> 00:58:57.952
you know, relax and sleep.

00:58:59.061 --> 00:58:59.661
And she's like, yeah,

00:58:59.681 --> 00:59:00.503
so I would rather have

00:59:00.563 --> 00:59:01.503
fucking stayed at home.

00:59:03.284 --> 00:59:03.545
Yeah,

00:59:03.864 --> 00:59:05.186
a lot of wards you just get kicked

00:59:05.286 --> 00:59:06.746
off when closing time,

00:59:06.827 --> 00:59:08.608
when it's no longer visiting hours.

00:59:08.648 --> 00:59:10.030
If you're the husband or partner,

00:59:10.050 --> 00:59:11.170
just go get the fuck out.

00:59:11.190 --> 00:59:13.271
But I mean, what use am I?

00:59:13.331 --> 00:59:14.353
Like, what I don't understand,

00:59:14.393 --> 00:59:15.452
you guys might be on it.

00:59:15.713 --> 00:59:16.693
Like, what fucking use am I?

00:59:17.034 --> 00:59:18.494
Like, don't have tits.

00:59:19.795 --> 00:59:21.036
Oh, changing nappies.

00:59:21.456 --> 00:59:22.358
Changing nappies is the

00:59:22.398 --> 00:59:23.239
actual honest answer.

00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:26.340
So, I told Mr. Schultz.

00:59:27.853 --> 00:59:29.894
I would much rather show up, for example,

00:59:30.735 --> 00:59:34.898
in the morning and, you know, take over,

00:59:34.918 --> 00:59:38.740
uh, you know, somebody's in the morning.

00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:43.144
The only reason you might know, right.

00:59:43.164 --> 00:59:44.385
The only reason you might be useful,

00:59:44.445 --> 00:59:44.686
right.

00:59:44.766 --> 00:59:45.907
Is that the other person has

00:59:45.947 --> 00:59:47.467
just had major surgery, right.

00:59:48.117 --> 00:59:49.940
And the child needs nappy

00:59:49.980 --> 00:59:52.822
changes and they are, you know, that,

00:59:52.882 --> 00:59:55.003
that is quite a dexterous activity and,

00:59:55.385 --> 00:59:56.865
and it's, it's very,

00:59:56.965 --> 00:59:57.746
it's tough on the lower

00:59:57.786 --> 00:59:59.188
back and a lot of other things.

00:59:59.268 --> 00:59:59.487
Right.

01:00:00.108 --> 01:00:00.228
And.

01:00:01.246 --> 01:00:03.027
When you recover, when you, well,

01:00:03.226 --> 01:00:05.248
really for the first 10 to

01:00:05.248 --> 01:00:07.449
14 days after you have a C-section,

01:00:07.789 --> 01:00:08.909
you cannot change a nappy.

01:00:08.969 --> 01:00:09.990
It's not physically possible.

01:00:10.050 --> 01:00:10.871
So in the hospital,

01:00:10.952 --> 01:00:15.193
it has to be midwives or health workers.

01:00:15.213 --> 01:00:17.574
And so if they're not around,

01:00:17.594 --> 01:00:19.036
if they're doing ward rounds or whatever,

01:00:19.076 --> 01:00:19.956
you can just have a crying

01:00:19.996 --> 01:00:21.097
baby that needs a nappy change.

01:00:21.137 --> 01:00:23.259
So you can help with that if

01:00:23.278 --> 01:00:23.878
you're in the room.

01:00:23.998 --> 01:00:24.458
Otherwise,

01:00:25.059 --> 01:00:26.179
but that's the main thing you can do.

01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:26.900
That's it, right?

01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:27.280
Yeah.

01:00:27.833 --> 01:00:29.135
Yeah, like I'll do it.

01:00:29.454 --> 01:00:30.114
What I'm saying is,

01:00:30.295 --> 01:00:31.755
is there really a need for

01:00:31.795 --> 01:00:33.896
me to be there 24 hours a day?

01:00:34.336 --> 01:00:34.637
There is.

01:00:35.617 --> 01:00:36.577
I told this to Schulze.

01:00:36.938 --> 01:00:37.699
I'll tell it to you too.

01:00:38.659 --> 01:00:40.119
Her job, when you're in the hospital,

01:00:40.820 --> 01:00:42.001
like there's tons of help, right?

01:00:42.161 --> 01:00:43.282
And like, no, you don't need to change.

01:00:43.302 --> 01:00:44.422
That's what I'm talking about.

01:00:44.561 --> 01:00:45.902
In the context of the hospital.

01:00:46.833 --> 01:00:48.614
For those four days after the birth,

01:00:48.855 --> 01:00:50.016
is there really a need for

01:00:50.036 --> 01:00:52.297
me to be there 100% of the time?

01:00:52.317 --> 01:00:52.836
Four days?

01:00:53.217 --> 01:00:54.458
No, I don't think so.

01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:57.139
You get kicked out in 24 hours here.

01:00:57.500 --> 01:01:00.061
Here, 24 to 36 maybe.

01:01:01.681 --> 01:01:03.902
If everything's looking okay,

01:01:04.123 --> 01:01:05.184
you're out pretty quick.

01:01:05.764 --> 01:01:06.724
I think it's because there's

01:01:06.744 --> 01:01:09.246
some stuff around how you

01:01:09.306 --> 01:01:10.967
recover quicker at home potentially,

01:01:10.987 --> 01:01:11.847
and they don't want you to get...

01:01:13.751 --> 01:01:14.612
like a hospital based

01:01:14.652 --> 01:01:16.054
infection is more likely.

01:01:16.074 --> 01:01:16.775
Yeah.

01:01:17.434 --> 01:01:18.456
So they just like, ah,

01:01:18.536 --> 01:01:19.896
cause you've got a really small human,

01:01:20.318 --> 01:01:21.139
let's get you out.

01:01:21.338 --> 01:01:21.978
And then they,

01:01:22.139 --> 01:01:23.641
they send basically a nurse

01:01:23.661 --> 01:01:24.782
to your house the day after

01:01:24.882 --> 01:01:25.623
they just want to get you

01:01:25.722 --> 01:01:27.083
out of the hospital and

01:01:27.103 --> 01:01:28.224
then they send a nurse to you.

01:01:28.985 --> 01:01:29.985
That's kind of how it works here.

01:01:30.847 --> 01:01:31.007
Yeah.

01:01:31.047 --> 01:01:32.248
So you only really have the first,

01:01:32.449 --> 01:01:33.530
you have the first night.

01:01:33.690 --> 01:01:35.170
They want to see that you can feed.

01:01:37.512 --> 01:01:38.054
That's about it.

01:01:38.074 --> 01:01:38.373
I think.

01:01:38.813 --> 01:01:39.635
Make sure you're not a psycho.

01:01:41.900 --> 01:01:43.382
I guess it was probably also

01:01:43.422 --> 01:01:44.664
check your mental state maybe.

01:01:44.764 --> 01:01:46.065
There's a lot of stuff.

01:01:46.306 --> 01:01:49.789
There's a lot of stuff around that.

01:01:49.809 --> 01:01:50.929
But even at the hospital,

01:01:51.771 --> 01:01:53.273
her job is take care of the baby, right?

01:01:53.952 --> 01:01:54.873
Your job is take care of her.

01:01:56.335 --> 01:01:57.817
And cesareans are no joke, man.

01:01:58.177 --> 01:01:59.259
It's like major surgery.

01:01:59.298 --> 01:02:00.420
Do not put your head on the

01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:01.860
other side of that fucking thing either,

01:02:02.101 --> 01:02:02.442
by the way.

01:02:04.141 --> 01:02:05.320
Do not look over.

01:02:05.340 --> 01:02:06.922
I'm telling you.

01:02:07.501 --> 01:02:09.101
You might be tempted to go look.

01:02:09.722 --> 01:02:11.702
I feel like you've done it before.

01:02:13.483 --> 01:02:17.043
Don't look.

01:02:17.164 --> 01:02:19.284
What they say is that my

01:02:19.324 --> 01:02:20.824
friend who's a pediatrician

01:02:20.885 --> 01:02:22.646
says that loads and loads

01:02:22.666 --> 01:02:23.925
of blokes look and then

01:02:23.945 --> 01:02:25.226
they just pass out.

01:02:25.445 --> 01:02:27.186
It's a big problem.

01:02:28.286 --> 01:02:29.387
Because they just fall over

01:02:29.427 --> 01:02:31.128
in the operating theater

01:02:31.168 --> 01:02:31.927
and fuck everything up.

01:02:32.260 --> 01:02:35.103
There's a lot of stuff between, between,

01:02:35.965 --> 01:02:37.266
between the skin and the

01:02:37.306 --> 01:02:38.867
baby and it all comes out.

01:02:39.108 --> 01:02:40.148
Like you're just, you're just,

01:02:40.309 --> 01:02:41.349
you're just picking things

01:02:41.490 --> 01:02:42.711
up and then moving them over.

01:02:43.518 --> 01:02:44.880
And do not just don't look.

01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:45.360
Okay.

01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:47.342
So yeah, let's like something.

01:02:47.442 --> 01:02:49.063
It is, it is, it is a sick, like,

01:02:49.103 --> 01:02:50.423
it sounds like people throw it around.

01:02:50.443 --> 01:02:51.224
Like I had a C-section.

01:02:51.244 --> 01:02:51.583
No big deal.

01:02:52.105 --> 01:02:54.085
It is pretty significant surgery.

01:02:54.286 --> 01:02:54.887
And like the,

01:02:55.447 --> 01:02:56.547
the scars that can be there

01:02:56.827 --> 01:02:58.248
and the risks of breaking

01:02:58.289 --> 01:03:00.150
those and the ability to,

01:03:00.269 --> 01:03:01.431
it's like a hernia surgery

01:03:01.451 --> 01:03:02.251
where you can like easily

01:03:02.291 --> 01:03:04.253
pop that open or do

01:03:04.273 --> 01:03:04.853
something similar to that.

01:03:04.893 --> 01:03:05.773
Like it's pretty bad.

01:03:06.313 --> 01:03:09.476
And so, but, but babies are small and,

01:03:09.976 --> 01:03:10.836
and she's going to be

01:03:10.856 --> 01:03:11.717
determined and all that kind of stuff.

01:03:11.737 --> 01:03:13.039
But your only job is to,

01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:15.161
is to make sure that she has

01:03:15.201 --> 01:03:15.681
what she needs.

01:03:16.563 --> 01:03:19.465
And Rama says, I looked was cool as fuck,

01:03:19.525 --> 01:03:20.788
especially when the baby came out.

01:03:21.168 --> 01:03:21.509
I agree.

01:03:21.608 --> 01:03:22.168
I look too.

01:03:22.730 --> 01:03:26.054
I like to, but, but I'm not going to lie.

01:03:26.574 --> 01:03:27.376
I'll probably look.

01:03:27.655 --> 01:03:29.038
It also depends on where you look.

01:03:29.809 --> 01:03:31.351
because some parts are not

01:03:31.411 --> 01:03:33.793
bad and other parts are not

01:03:33.833 --> 01:03:36.233
good I mean I have some

01:03:36.273 --> 01:03:37.215
interest in that like I

01:03:37.474 --> 01:03:38.496
don't I don't think I'll be

01:03:38.516 --> 01:03:39.817
a fainter I'm like pretty I

01:03:40.516 --> 01:03:42.438
don't think you can ever I

01:03:42.478 --> 01:03:43.099
don't think you can ever

01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:44.739
unsee it would be my only

01:03:44.820 --> 01:03:47.481
negative review it's like

01:03:47.521 --> 01:03:48.342
you can dream about it's

01:03:48.362 --> 01:03:50.543
like oh just yeah just well

01:03:50.563 --> 01:03:51.603
it's just a pilot it's just

01:03:51.664 --> 01:03:52.804
a pile of guts so if you've

01:03:52.824 --> 01:03:53.885
seen guts before like

01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:56.280
I'm not going to wake up in

01:03:56.300 --> 01:03:56.800
the middle of the night

01:03:56.820 --> 01:03:57.900
with a cold sweat and go,

01:03:57.940 --> 01:03:58.922
fuck that season, man.

01:03:58.942 --> 01:03:59.601
Jesus Christ.

01:04:00.001 --> 01:04:00.882
It's like Full Metal Jack.

01:04:00.943 --> 01:04:01.742
If you've seen Full Metal

01:04:01.762 --> 01:04:02.682
Jack a couple of times, you're okay.

01:04:03.143 --> 01:04:04.643
Yeah, it's just like very weird.

01:04:05.585 --> 01:04:05.864
You know.

01:04:05.885 --> 01:04:08.766
Fuck, I love Full Metal Jack.

01:04:08.846 --> 01:04:09.445
I'm going to watch that

01:04:09.505 --> 01:04:10.567
later today and put that on

01:04:10.586 --> 01:04:11.547
the fucking screen up here.

01:04:16.637 --> 01:04:19.739
That is also a problem when

01:04:19.778 --> 01:04:21.360
I'm trying to do work is

01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:23.019
that the screen gets

01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:24.101
distracting sometimes.

01:04:24.121 --> 01:04:25.460
It's just like background noise,

01:04:25.501 --> 01:04:26.922
but then you see a scene

01:04:26.942 --> 01:04:27.882
you like and then you just

01:04:27.942 --> 01:04:31.083
like... You fucking put

01:04:31.222 --> 01:04:32.704
movies on while you're working?

01:04:33.023 --> 01:04:33.623
I do too, yeah.

01:04:33.764 --> 01:04:34.543
I put YouTube shit on.

01:04:34.583 --> 01:04:35.684
I put all sorts of shit on the back.

01:04:35.844 --> 01:04:38.045
Yeah, man.

01:04:38.264 --> 01:04:39.286
This is why I have to go

01:04:39.326 --> 01:04:40.186
into a shared office.

01:04:40.326 --> 01:04:42.086
I have to be in a place where people...

01:04:43.157 --> 01:04:44.938
can kind of see the edge of my screen.

01:04:44.978 --> 01:04:46.139
So it is fucking obvious

01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:47.559
that I'm just fucking around.

01:04:47.858 --> 01:04:48.460
Some people are like, dude,

01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:49.519
are you fucking watching,

01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:51.041
are you fucking watching

01:04:51.061 --> 01:04:51.920
full metal jacket?

01:04:52.001 --> 01:04:53.501
And I'll be like, I mean, dude,

01:04:53.521 --> 01:04:54.342
you can come watch.

01:04:56.103 --> 01:04:58.025
So is this like, it's, uh,

01:04:59.704 --> 01:05:00.746
you just can't handle the

01:05:00.826 --> 01:05:02.706
shame of like not being

01:05:02.766 --> 01:05:03.967
fully focused on work.

01:05:04.027 --> 01:05:04.527
Is that like,

01:05:05.007 --> 01:05:05.869
what do you care what these

01:05:05.889 --> 01:05:07.489
other people fucking see on your screen?

01:05:08.050 --> 01:05:08.409
I like it.

01:05:08.449 --> 01:05:08.710
That's.

01:05:10.590 --> 01:05:10.751
Huh?

01:05:11.681 --> 01:05:12.521
Well,

01:05:12.601 --> 01:05:14.983
everybody else is focused and working

01:05:15.063 --> 01:05:15.505
and shit.

01:05:15.764 --> 01:05:17.126
So you kind of collectively

01:05:17.186 --> 01:05:18.427
keep each other honest, right?

01:05:19.248 --> 01:05:19.949
I don't think it doesn't

01:05:19.969 --> 01:05:21.110
mean we're not focused or working.

01:05:22.512 --> 01:05:24.152
Nah, but I mean... I'm watching TV,

01:05:24.213 --> 01:05:25.614
but I either have music on

01:05:25.855 --> 01:05:26.815
or... It's just like having

01:05:26.856 --> 01:05:27.576
people in the room.

01:05:27.597 --> 01:05:29.818
It's like having... Yeah,

01:05:29.878 --> 01:05:30.679
but it's much more

01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:32.782
distracting than just

01:05:32.802 --> 01:05:34.643
people pottering around

01:05:34.682 --> 01:05:35.744
making coffee and shit.

01:05:35.764 --> 01:05:35.905
Yeah.

01:05:37.284 --> 01:05:38.585
I find it a bit disturbing

01:05:38.824 --> 01:05:40.005
when you don't have music

01:05:40.246 --> 01:05:42.268
or a show on or something.

01:05:42.547 --> 01:05:43.608
And then you realize that

01:05:43.628 --> 01:05:44.748
you've just been fucking

01:05:44.829 --> 01:05:46.010
staring at that screen for

01:05:46.030 --> 01:05:47.490
like eight hours and

01:05:47.510 --> 01:05:51.353
haven't moved and like just working.

01:05:51.634 --> 01:05:52.474
It's that's weird.

01:05:53.896 --> 01:05:55.056
Oh, that's just flow.

01:05:55.297 --> 01:05:58.239
Sometimes that's like an office.

01:05:59.679 --> 01:05:59.960
Yeah.

01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:02.992
Like people are 20,

01:06:02.992 --> 01:06:04.143
20 depressed people in a row.

01:06:06.164 --> 01:06:09.668
Fucking one bad line of code

01:06:09.708 --> 01:06:12.150
away from fucking blood on the wall.

01:06:12.711 --> 01:06:13.331
How do you know that

01:06:13.351 --> 01:06:14.273
somebody's never been in an

01:06:14.313 --> 01:06:14.873
office before?

01:06:14.893 --> 01:06:14.974
Wait,

01:06:17.237 --> 01:06:19.059
you're saying that you sit at a desk

01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:20.539
without a TV?

01:06:22.702 --> 01:06:24.063
You fucking work.

01:06:24.724 --> 01:06:25.905
Between breakfast and lunch?

01:06:25.965 --> 01:06:28.969
You just do work and you're

01:06:28.989 --> 01:06:31.751
expected to work and then

01:06:32.010 --> 01:06:34.092
if you don't work, that's bad.

01:06:35.514 --> 01:06:37.675
It's nuts.

01:06:37.715 --> 01:06:38.797
You get loads of shit done.

01:06:39.637 --> 01:06:40.579
Somebody tells you if they

01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:42.219
do a good job or not?

01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:44.001
Somebody tells you about

01:06:44.041 --> 01:06:45.483
something called a 360

01:06:45.483 --> 01:06:49.987
review that you have this week coming up.

01:06:51.889 --> 01:06:53.190
I have worked in an office

01:06:53.510 --> 01:06:55.713
and I don't know what a 360 review is.

01:06:55.853 --> 01:06:59.016
But yeah, man,

01:06:59.135 --> 01:07:00.858
working in the office is I don't,

01:07:01.217 --> 01:07:01.918
you know, I could take it,

01:07:02.179 --> 01:07:02.780
take it or leave it.

01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:04.021
It's good to have other

01:07:04.061 --> 01:07:05.742
people to go and get like, you know,

01:07:05.762 --> 01:07:06.262
coffee with.

01:07:06.702 --> 01:07:07.965
Yeah, that part I miss a bit.

01:07:08.768 --> 01:07:10.449
That part I miss, especially in lunches.

01:07:10.469 --> 01:07:13.152
Hey, man, what are you doing for lunch?

01:07:13.351 --> 01:07:13.952
Oh, nothing.

01:07:14.251 --> 01:07:15.733
I had a beer with my lunch

01:07:15.773 --> 01:07:16.994
last week and I was like,

01:07:17.054 --> 01:07:18.255
this is where you come into

01:07:18.295 --> 01:07:19.856
the office is you go for a

01:07:20.056 --> 01:07:21.237
lunch with the boys.

01:07:21.757 --> 01:07:23.057
Yeah, that part I miss.

01:07:23.157 --> 01:07:23.697
I do miss that.

01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:25.860
We can get lunch.

01:07:26.019 --> 01:07:27.460
All right, dude.

01:07:29.041 --> 01:07:30.101
I'll be there in 17 hours.

01:07:30.121 --> 01:07:30.402
Actually,

01:07:30.422 --> 01:07:32.844
the end of your place is probably

01:07:32.864 --> 01:07:35.164
more like 30 hours, but...

01:07:38.170 --> 01:07:38.751
What I do miss,

01:07:39.291 --> 01:07:44.195
what I miss out of that is owning like a,

01:07:44.655 --> 01:07:45.876
like we're all entrepreneurs, right?

01:07:46.516 --> 01:07:47.697
Entrepreneurship.

01:07:47.998 --> 01:07:48.257
We are.

01:07:48.277 --> 01:07:49.599
We're all entrepreneurs.

01:07:49.838 --> 01:07:51.000
We are, right?

01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:51.440
Sorry,

01:07:51.541 --> 01:07:53.242
I thought I was muted when I laughed

01:07:53.302 --> 01:07:54.382
loudly there and I realized

01:07:54.563 --> 01:07:56.103
I pressed the button wrongly.

01:07:56.423 --> 01:07:57.025
I was not muted.

01:07:57.045 --> 01:07:57.625
It's a real thing.

01:07:58.097 --> 01:07:58.516
the real thing.

01:08:00.257 --> 01:08:01.219
The idea of being an

01:08:01.318 --> 01:08:03.280
entrepreneur in this space

01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:05.981
is inherently hilarious.

01:08:06.561 --> 01:08:07.222
I don't know why.

01:08:07.581 --> 01:08:08.123
You're ultimately

01:08:08.143 --> 01:08:09.342
responsible for your own income.

01:08:11.565 --> 01:08:12.664
That's a good definition of it.

01:08:12.784 --> 01:08:13.766
So when you're responsible

01:08:13.786 --> 01:08:15.467
for your own income and the

01:08:15.507 --> 01:08:16.287
future of that income,

01:08:17.108 --> 01:08:18.288
the one thing I do miss in

01:08:18.328 --> 01:08:19.248
large office settings is

01:08:19.288 --> 01:08:21.029
being able to just bullshit

01:08:21.050 --> 01:08:22.030
about things and you end up

01:08:22.070 --> 01:08:23.572
bouncing ideas and you have

01:08:23.612 --> 01:08:26.412
these epiphanies like, oh shit,

01:08:26.493 --> 01:08:27.234
we should be fucking...

01:08:27.970 --> 01:08:28.149
Right.

01:08:28.210 --> 01:08:29.690
Like, and that only happens,

01:08:30.371 --> 01:08:31.652
that rarely happens when

01:08:31.671 --> 01:08:32.671
you're like your shower

01:08:32.712 --> 01:08:33.393
thoughts and those types,

01:08:33.453 --> 01:08:34.193
it does happen to shower

01:08:34.233 --> 01:08:34.953
thoughts as well.

01:08:34.993 --> 01:08:35.594
Like, oh, you know,

01:08:35.613 --> 01:08:36.394
this is something we should

01:08:36.413 --> 01:08:37.314
totally do or blah, blah, blah.

01:08:37.954 --> 01:08:38.414
But when you're,

01:08:38.475 --> 01:08:39.615
when you're just fucking

01:08:39.655 --> 01:08:40.555
bouncing shit around, like,

01:08:40.595 --> 01:08:41.516
I think we had that when we

01:08:41.537 --> 01:08:43.578
were in Austin together, I'm just like,

01:08:43.597 --> 01:08:44.377
you sit around the table or

01:08:44.398 --> 01:08:45.059
you're sitting on the back

01:08:45.078 --> 01:08:45.939
and you have a fire going

01:08:45.958 --> 01:08:47.899
and you're drinking and then like,

01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:48.600
oh yeah,

01:08:48.619 --> 01:08:50.400
like you shared experiences and you start,

01:08:50.881 --> 01:08:51.921
you start kind of like

01:08:52.381 --> 01:08:53.483
focusing on some sort of

01:08:53.542 --> 01:08:54.622
idea and then like something comes up,

01:08:54.643 --> 01:08:55.144
you're like, oh fuck,

01:08:55.163 --> 01:08:55.743
this is a good idea.

01:08:56.203 --> 01:08:56.363
Right.

01:08:56.884 --> 01:08:58.664
And and that I that I

01:08:58.704 --> 01:09:00.005
definitely miss like that.

01:09:00.064 --> 01:09:00.904
Those are things that like

01:09:01.265 --> 01:09:02.244
from an office perspective,

01:09:02.284 --> 01:09:03.845
even having a small office

01:09:03.886 --> 01:09:05.845
of 10 or 20 or 30 or 40 people,

01:09:06.626 --> 01:09:08.265
you had a lot of those situations,

01:09:08.305 --> 01:09:09.006
whether that was in a

01:09:09.087 --> 01:09:10.146
meeting or whether that was

01:09:10.186 --> 01:09:11.386
in a lunch situation or

01:09:11.426 --> 01:09:13.027
like beers after work or

01:09:13.046 --> 01:09:14.528
something else where you

01:09:14.547 --> 01:09:15.768
come up with like these great ideas.

01:09:15.828 --> 01:09:16.828
And I feel like I totally

01:09:16.868 --> 01:09:18.847
miss out on that because it's all on you.

01:09:18.908 --> 01:09:19.868
And you're like, you know,

01:09:19.929 --> 01:09:21.189
I got YouTube up in the corner and.

01:09:22.744 --> 01:09:23.585
those epiphanies don't

01:09:23.604 --> 01:09:24.605
necessarily happen in those

01:09:24.645 --> 01:09:28.046
situations right um so or

01:09:28.067 --> 01:09:28.987
at least if they do happen

01:09:29.006 --> 01:09:30.547
they happen much it takes

01:09:30.608 --> 01:09:31.507
much longer for them to

01:09:31.568 --> 01:09:33.149
happen which is I think

01:09:33.248 --> 01:09:36.029
also like they they the

01:09:36.109 --> 01:09:38.270
nature of like what you can

01:09:38.350 --> 01:09:39.990
and can't reveal or do it

01:09:40.030 --> 01:09:41.551
don't reveal at given times

01:09:41.631 --> 01:09:42.652
as well makes it like

01:09:42.851 --> 01:09:44.672
really difficult to talk to

01:09:44.792 --> 01:09:45.552
people that don't do

01:09:45.613 --> 01:09:47.373
exactly what we do yeah

01:09:47.734 --> 01:09:49.475
right I would agree with that like

01:09:49.898 --> 01:09:52.760
because it's so situational and also like,

01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:54.541
like super fucking bluntly,

01:09:55.121 --> 01:09:56.402
half the time we don't know

01:09:56.462 --> 01:09:57.261
how we make money.

01:09:57.462 --> 01:09:58.542
And when we do make money,

01:09:58.703 --> 01:10:00.543
it's at least partly luck and accident.

01:10:00.623 --> 01:10:00.863
Right.

01:10:01.323 --> 01:10:01.864
And so you,

01:10:02.125 --> 01:10:03.845
it's super fucking hard to like

01:10:03.926 --> 01:10:04.905
try and quantify,

01:10:04.947 --> 01:10:07.247
like how you make decisions,

01:10:08.148 --> 01:10:09.529
like what's good, what shit,

01:10:09.828 --> 01:10:11.350
like other than like what,

01:10:11.529 --> 01:10:12.890
what artifacts says, you know,

01:10:12.911 --> 01:10:13.832
kiss a thousand frogs.

01:10:13.931 --> 01:10:14.131
Right.

01:10:14.171 --> 01:10:14.851
Some will be fine.

01:10:14.891 --> 01:10:15.072
Right.

01:10:15.532 --> 01:10:15.993
Like, like,

01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:18.479
we all have a rationale

01:10:18.519 --> 01:10:19.899
that's slightly better than

01:10:20.220 --> 01:10:21.859
that joke version of things,

01:10:21.899 --> 01:10:23.801
but it's not wildly better.

01:10:23.841 --> 01:10:24.621
And so it means when you're

01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:26.181
trying to bounce ideas

01:10:26.221 --> 01:10:27.042
around with other people,

01:10:27.122 --> 01:10:28.542
like you sound like the,

01:10:28.783 --> 01:10:30.523
the closer you get to

01:10:30.563 --> 01:10:33.503
telling real people who run

01:10:33.524 --> 01:10:34.765
their own businesses or whatever,

01:10:35.064 --> 01:10:36.784
and who are might be able

01:10:36.805 --> 01:10:39.506
to relate to the situation we have,

01:10:40.405 --> 01:10:41.827
the closer you get to like

01:10:42.806 --> 01:10:43.966
describing reality,

01:10:44.067 --> 01:10:45.528
the more you can see the,

01:10:47.188 --> 01:10:49.609
the big Metal Gear Solid

01:10:49.750 --> 01:10:51.771
exclamation mark appearing

01:10:51.832 --> 01:10:52.453
over their head.

01:10:53.493 --> 01:10:53.953
They're like,

01:10:54.755 --> 01:10:57.136
what the fuck is he talking about?

01:10:57.157 --> 01:11:01.140
You just realize it's unrelatable.

01:11:01.740 --> 01:11:01.881
Well,

01:11:01.900 --> 01:11:02.681
that's one of the benefits of

01:11:02.721 --> 01:11:03.703
actually going to these conferences.

01:11:03.783 --> 01:11:04.783
Not only just hanging out with these guys,

01:11:04.823 --> 01:11:05.904
but you meet other people

01:11:05.944 --> 01:11:07.206
and there's a shared

01:11:07.225 --> 01:11:09.728
understanding of specific situations.

01:11:10.127 --> 01:11:11.649
It is the thing I miss about

01:11:12.170 --> 01:11:13.851
not having been to

01:11:15.740 --> 01:11:17.363
any conferences for a

01:11:17.644 --> 01:11:18.666
related ecosystem that we

01:11:18.706 --> 01:11:20.087
work in for a while now

01:11:21.911 --> 01:11:22.771
there's just fucking

01:11:22.872 --> 01:11:23.833
there's nobody to talk to

01:11:24.876 --> 01:11:26.497
yeah exactly and even like

01:11:26.518 --> 01:11:27.579
this fall I'm skipping a

01:11:27.619 --> 01:11:28.662
bunch of shit because I just don't

01:11:30.353 --> 01:11:31.293
whatever different reasons

01:11:31.354 --> 01:11:32.715
but but like that that's

01:11:32.734 --> 01:11:33.795
the one piece I miss out on

01:11:33.875 --> 01:11:35.655
is is those conversations

01:11:35.695 --> 01:11:37.877
right it's coming up a bit

01:11:37.917 --> 01:11:38.797
recently because like we're

01:11:39.458 --> 01:11:40.619
we're specifically doing

01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:41.619
business development uh

01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:43.360
we're going to be doing

01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:44.421
some some like business

01:11:44.462 --> 01:11:45.762
development coaching I

01:11:45.802 --> 01:11:49.164
guess um which is like a

01:11:49.305 --> 01:11:50.445
lot of it is to be honest

01:11:50.485 --> 01:11:51.646
like it's just giving you a

01:11:51.686 --> 01:11:53.207
space to to have that kind

01:11:53.247 --> 01:11:54.507
of conversation and then

01:11:54.547 --> 01:11:55.149
have somebody who

01:11:56.792 --> 01:11:58.274
knows more about you know

01:11:58.314 --> 01:11:59.434
sales and business growth

01:11:59.514 --> 01:12:00.814
just echo it back to you

01:12:00.875 --> 01:12:01.694
right and then you go

01:12:01.734 --> 01:12:04.216
figure it out um but you're

01:12:04.235 --> 01:12:05.856
like isn't it it's just a

01:12:05.896 --> 01:12:07.337
very weird experience to

01:12:07.377 --> 01:12:08.518
have got to that point of

01:12:08.557 --> 01:12:09.979
being like you actually

01:12:10.019 --> 01:12:11.238
need these that's the

01:12:11.259 --> 01:12:12.140
conclusion I've come to

01:12:12.180 --> 01:12:16.221
right it's like if if if it

01:12:16.261 --> 01:12:17.421
was me as an individual

01:12:17.462 --> 01:12:18.563
looking to build my skills

01:12:19.162 --> 01:12:20.564
I'd be like oh I think I've

01:12:20.583 --> 01:12:22.965
hit an impasse from a

01:12:23.005 --> 01:12:24.085
professional perspective I

01:12:24.125 --> 01:12:25.945
need to get a coach or something yeah

01:12:27.132 --> 01:12:28.613
And then from a business perspective,

01:12:28.634 --> 01:12:29.114
you're like,

01:12:29.694 --> 01:12:31.617
I don't know how we land the

01:12:31.636 --> 01:12:32.597
clients that we do,

01:12:33.259 --> 01:12:34.699
how to make that repeatable,

01:12:35.480 --> 01:12:37.442
or what our USP is as a business.

01:12:38.302 --> 01:12:40.305
I have some gut guesses,

01:12:41.126 --> 01:12:41.746
but none of them are

01:12:41.765 --> 01:12:42.987
quantifiable for me right now.

01:12:43.006 --> 01:12:44.748
I don't have the ability to quantify them.

01:12:46.610 --> 01:12:47.411
I think I need to...

01:12:49.710 --> 01:12:52.453
Well, I think that... Figure that out.

01:12:53.654 --> 01:12:54.935
The good news about, I think,

01:12:54.954 --> 01:12:56.296
this business, Rama says,

01:12:56.676 --> 01:12:58.179
this all sounds very sad and lonely.

01:12:59.500 --> 01:13:00.822
It's really not because...

01:13:01.943 --> 01:13:03.463
This isn't a cry for help, Rama.

01:13:03.484 --> 01:13:04.966
That should be the name of this podcast.

01:13:05.145 --> 01:13:05.966
This isn't a cry for help.

01:13:07.448 --> 01:13:09.189
resounding cry for help.

01:13:09.430 --> 01:13:10.411
I'm not living on an Island

01:13:10.430 --> 01:13:11.390
in the middle of the South Pacific.

01:13:11.430 --> 01:13:12.051
Like I actually,

01:13:12.091 --> 01:13:12.671
there's a lot of people

01:13:12.731 --> 01:13:13.372
around me as well.

01:13:13.511 --> 01:13:14.552
Even, even in this town,

01:13:14.592 --> 01:13:16.234
like there's a lot of folks

01:13:16.253 --> 01:13:17.515
that are in this industry that, that,

01:13:17.854 --> 01:13:18.595
that do,

01:13:19.176 --> 01:13:21.936
even though they don't work for me, um,

01:13:21.997 --> 01:13:25.399
that do allow, um, those things to happen,

01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:26.960
which is really great with great teams.

01:13:27.260 --> 01:13:28.261
Like strange love is here.

01:13:28.480 --> 01:13:29.301
Lavender five is here.

01:13:29.360 --> 01:13:29.742
Like those are,

01:13:29.782 --> 01:13:30.322
those are good

01:13:30.362 --> 01:13:31.462
opportunities for us to be

01:13:31.483 --> 01:13:32.603
able to do those types of things.

01:13:33.423 --> 01:13:35.585
Um, so that, that's, that's really nice.

01:13:36.385 --> 01:13:39.466
And at the same time, like you said,

01:13:39.966 --> 01:13:41.006
the ability to be able to

01:13:41.206 --> 01:13:44.327
have those opportunities to

01:13:44.346 --> 01:13:45.407
get out and then also to

01:13:45.506 --> 01:13:46.186
meet new folks who have

01:13:46.207 --> 01:13:47.368
those same conversations, et cetera,

01:13:47.387 --> 01:13:48.728
I think is pretty positive.

01:13:48.948 --> 01:13:50.108
But it's not sad and lonely.

01:13:50.127 --> 01:13:52.109
What the hell?

01:13:52.128 --> 01:13:53.948
I've got Rama just down the road.

01:13:54.770 --> 01:13:55.750
Yeah.

01:13:55.789 --> 01:13:56.970
Just 13 hours down the road.

01:13:58.631 --> 01:13:59.930
Just a short 13 hours away.

01:14:00.855 --> 01:14:03.877
We have like the opposite problem where,

01:14:03.898 --> 01:14:05.699
because there's a major city near us,

01:14:05.779 --> 01:14:08.280
like there are blockchain meetups,

01:14:08.341 --> 01:14:09.782
but they're overwhelmingly

01:14:10.023 --> 01:14:11.262
like people who are A,

01:14:11.644 --> 01:14:14.045
kind of interested in like

01:14:14.085 --> 01:14:15.166
quite a superficial level,

01:14:15.606 --> 01:14:16.766
it feels like in the hype

01:14:16.948 --> 01:14:17.988
and want to get involved.

01:14:18.207 --> 01:14:18.509
And like,

01:14:18.529 --> 01:14:19.689
they're obviously not the people

01:14:19.710 --> 01:14:20.329
we want to talk to.

01:14:20.850 --> 01:14:22.110
And then the companies who

01:14:22.150 --> 01:14:23.391
are already in the space is

01:14:23.692 --> 01:14:24.893
very Ethereum heavy.

01:14:24.912 --> 01:14:26.854
And it's very...

01:14:30.734 --> 01:14:32.975
very uncritically positive

01:14:34.856 --> 01:14:36.997
because a lot of the P a

01:14:37.018 --> 01:14:38.158
lot of the companies and people,

01:14:38.238 --> 01:14:40.539
it feels like are more on

01:14:40.579 --> 01:14:43.161
the marketing side than the

01:14:43.201 --> 01:14:44.122
technical side.

01:14:44.981 --> 01:14:46.162
And so they just live in the

01:14:46.203 --> 01:14:48.644
world of that.

01:14:49.224 --> 01:14:50.664
They're selling the pro they're selling,

01:14:50.925 --> 01:14:51.664
they're selling the dream.

01:14:52.046 --> 01:14:52.246
Right.

01:14:52.865 --> 01:14:54.987
And in infrastructure,

01:14:55.027 --> 01:14:56.127
people at the end of the day, we

01:14:57.867 --> 01:14:59.266
make our money by knowing

01:14:59.328 --> 01:15:01.368
the good and the bad and

01:15:01.427 --> 01:15:02.769
packaging that up into us,

01:15:03.569 --> 01:15:05.930
into our experience.

01:15:05.970 --> 01:15:07.130
And also like, if you,

01:15:07.189 --> 01:15:08.229
if you're approaching a foundation,

01:15:08.270 --> 01:15:08.770
you go, look,

01:15:09.091 --> 01:15:09.990
here's the bad shit that

01:15:10.011 --> 01:15:11.391
we've experienced and we

01:15:11.452 --> 01:15:12.212
can help you through.

01:15:12.231 --> 01:15:13.332
If it ever happens on your chain,

01:15:13.372 --> 01:15:15.012
here's the good shit and

01:15:15.132 --> 01:15:15.853
we'll figure it out.

01:15:15.912 --> 01:15:16.132
Right.

01:15:16.533 --> 01:15:21.215
But it's very unsentimental, right?

01:15:21.234 --> 01:15:23.996
Good term.

01:15:25.381 --> 01:15:26.684
No, but that's like, if that's,

01:15:26.783 --> 01:15:27.444
if there's one thing I've

01:15:27.484 --> 01:15:28.908
learned from the process of like,

01:15:28.948 --> 01:15:29.769
like at the end of a

01:15:29.809 --> 01:15:31.931
process of field work that

01:15:31.992 --> 01:15:33.614
I am literally at the end of now and,

01:15:33.734 --> 01:15:34.777
and interviews and stuff.

01:15:35.672 --> 01:15:37.493
The one word that I would use,

01:15:37.554 --> 01:15:39.295
regardless of the people

01:15:39.314 --> 01:15:40.275
I've spoken to on the

01:15:40.336 --> 01:15:41.435
record who have been

01:15:42.277 --> 01:15:43.537
varying degrees of positive

01:15:43.578 --> 01:15:45.259
or negative about the technology and yada,

01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:45.779
yada, yada.

01:15:46.399 --> 01:15:47.340
Everybody works here.

01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:48.800
Most people work here full time.

01:15:49.280 --> 01:15:50.721
The word is unsentimental.

01:15:50.942 --> 01:15:52.301
That is what validators are.

01:15:52.943 --> 01:15:54.444
We have to be unsentimental.

01:15:54.543 --> 01:15:56.244
And those that are not

01:15:56.345 --> 01:15:58.706
unsentimental about it do not last long.

01:15:59.546 --> 01:15:59.725
Wait,

01:15:59.926 --> 01:16:01.608
you're saying that that theme has

01:16:01.648 --> 01:16:04.189
come up in all of your conversations?

01:16:05.461 --> 01:16:06.983
come up so far and any of

01:16:07.063 --> 01:16:10.045
the like um it's a the tone

01:16:10.405 --> 01:16:12.127
of additional stuff that's

01:16:12.148 --> 01:16:13.087
happened or people that

01:16:13.108 --> 01:16:14.189
have got in touch to just

01:16:14.250 --> 01:16:15.430
offer feedback and blah

01:16:15.451 --> 01:16:18.113
blah um that theme is

01:16:18.212 --> 01:16:19.134
unsentimental meaning like

01:16:19.253 --> 01:16:20.255
they don't give a shit

01:16:21.216 --> 01:16:22.296
whether that thing lives or

01:16:22.337 --> 01:16:23.798
dies it's just purely

01:16:24.203 --> 01:16:24.423
No,

01:16:24.844 --> 01:16:27.145
I think that's your painting on the not

01:16:27.185 --> 01:16:27.784
giving a shit.

01:16:27.944 --> 01:16:30.065
Unsentimental is unemotional.

01:16:30.386 --> 01:16:32.186
It's clear-eyed.

01:16:32.306 --> 01:16:33.546
It's not rose-tinted.

01:16:33.567 --> 01:16:35.688
It's like, this is what we've done.

01:16:35.707 --> 01:16:37.048
This is what we've been through.

01:16:37.069 --> 01:16:38.868
These are the things we've done.

01:16:38.889 --> 01:16:39.850
These are the reasons that

01:16:39.890 --> 01:16:41.029
we did them at the time.

01:16:41.050 --> 01:16:43.350
And it is what it is.

01:16:43.371 --> 01:16:44.690
Okay.

01:16:45.091 --> 01:16:46.152
I don't know if that's unsentimental.

01:16:46.212 --> 01:16:47.471
You can put that on a t-shirt.

01:16:47.692 --> 01:16:48.512
Validation.

01:16:49.033 --> 01:16:49.893
It is what it is.

01:16:49.912 --> 01:16:50.573
Okay.

01:16:53.225 --> 01:16:55.886
You know, it's like Vonnegut.

01:16:55.926 --> 01:16:56.667
Right next to leg.

01:16:57.987 --> 01:17:00.046
Yeah, so it goes, right?

01:17:00.106 --> 01:17:01.127
Like Kerberos.

01:17:01.528 --> 01:17:02.307
So it goes.

01:17:03.528 --> 01:17:04.667
Juno, so it goes.

01:17:04.747 --> 01:17:05.448
Whatever, you know.

01:17:09.069 --> 01:17:09.868
Unsentimental.

01:17:10.908 --> 01:17:11.088
Yeah.

01:17:11.769 --> 01:17:13.029
I think I'm sentimental on some chains,

01:17:13.069 --> 01:17:13.250
though.

01:17:14.229 --> 01:17:14.510
Are you?

01:17:15.630 --> 01:17:16.970
Maybe that's the reason I'm not.

01:17:18.051 --> 01:17:20.411
Maybe that's what's pulling me back.

01:17:22.475 --> 01:17:22.975
Yeah, I mean,

01:17:23.015 --> 01:17:25.615
my sentimentality is what

01:17:25.655 --> 01:17:27.737
holds me back in certain areas, for sure.

01:17:28.157 --> 01:17:28.277
Yeah,

01:17:28.296 --> 01:17:30.377
you care about the fucking server

01:17:30.438 --> 01:17:31.498
next to the one that you're

01:17:31.578 --> 01:17:33.680
melting in case it might be

01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:36.121
some fucking lost puppy

01:17:36.220 --> 01:17:39.322
rescue on that thing.

01:17:39.742 --> 01:17:40.481
You're sending out about

01:17:40.502 --> 01:17:41.622
something that doesn't even exist.

01:17:43.684 --> 01:17:44.663
It's totally make-believe.

01:17:46.064 --> 01:17:48.166
It's in your head.

01:17:48.326 --> 01:17:49.945
What if that is a cancer research center?

01:17:50.265 --> 01:17:50.846
It's not.

01:17:51.828 --> 01:17:52.429
It's not.

01:17:52.548 --> 01:17:54.909
It's somebody renting a

01:17:55.010 --> 01:17:56.189
fucking server for nothing.

01:17:56.210 --> 01:17:59.289
They're just renting a server for nothing.

01:17:59.350 --> 01:18:00.291
It's just one of those ones

01:18:00.310 --> 01:18:01.270
that Noah bought because it

01:18:01.310 --> 01:18:02.371
was on offer and he doesn't

01:18:02.411 --> 01:18:03.251
even use for anything.

01:18:03.291 --> 01:18:03.911
Exactly.

01:18:04.770 --> 01:18:06.551
All those ones that I buy

01:18:06.572 --> 01:18:08.072
because they're on offer are all shit.

01:18:09.572 --> 01:18:12.372
Why don't you just not buy them?

01:18:13.033 --> 01:18:14.792
Sit there idling.

01:18:14.813 --> 01:18:15.833
You could have a use one day.

01:18:15.854 --> 01:18:16.613
It's a disease, man.

01:18:18.521 --> 01:18:19.262
It is a disease.

01:18:20.024 --> 01:18:21.444
Just addicted to servers.

01:18:22.667 --> 01:18:22.947
It is.

01:18:23.146 --> 01:18:24.247
On the back streets looking

01:18:24.287 --> 01:18:26.490
for cheap servers and lots of risk.

01:18:27.030 --> 01:18:29.033
Yeah, should I need that thing one day?

01:18:29.054 --> 01:18:29.814
It's a bargain.

01:18:31.055 --> 01:18:31.275
Well,

01:18:31.957 --> 01:18:34.219
my other issue is I've been ordering

01:18:34.259 --> 01:18:35.319
servers and then they take

01:18:35.341 --> 01:18:36.622
a while to come in for

01:18:36.801 --> 01:18:37.962
providers and then they

01:18:38.002 --> 01:18:39.265
come in and then I forget about them.

01:18:40.235 --> 01:18:41.997
like holy shit man terror

01:18:42.016 --> 01:18:43.858
switch is fucking terrible

01:18:43.917 --> 01:18:45.257
for delivering fucking they

01:18:45.438 --> 01:18:46.639
are and then I just have

01:18:46.719 --> 01:18:47.418
somebody from another

01:18:47.458 --> 01:18:48.479
provider here in the u.s

01:18:48.619 --> 01:18:49.460
and then like I was waiting

01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:50.239
for like I don't know like

01:18:50.260 --> 01:18:50.960
a couple weeks something

01:18:50.980 --> 01:18:52.020
like that it was july it

01:18:52.041 --> 01:18:52.520
was supposed to be in

01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:54.042
august I had like three or

01:18:54.061 --> 01:18:54.761
four in order and they

01:18:54.801 --> 01:18:55.622
showed up and it's like oh

01:18:55.641 --> 01:18:56.762
cool they're here and then

01:18:56.922 --> 01:18:57.762
last night I woke up at

01:18:57.802 --> 01:18:59.003
like midnight like oh shit

01:18:59.024 --> 01:18:59.904
I have four servers I've

01:18:59.923 --> 01:19:01.385
spent like a grand a month

01:19:01.704 --> 01:19:02.284
that I haven't done

01:19:02.345 --> 01:19:03.105
anything with it like

01:19:03.126 --> 01:19:03.985
they're sitting there yeah

01:19:04.006 --> 01:19:05.766
you like you order it

01:19:06.766 --> 01:19:08.148
six months later it finally

01:19:08.188 --> 01:19:09.469
gets fucking delivered and

01:19:09.588 --> 01:19:10.489
all of a sudden you get an

01:19:10.590 --> 01:19:11.791
invoice for three grand for

01:19:11.831 --> 01:19:12.751
shit you don't need you're

01:19:12.770 --> 01:19:14.853
already just like oh shit

01:19:15.393 --> 01:19:16.694
okay so not not not on

01:19:16.734 --> 01:19:18.055
terraswitch we don't use

01:19:18.095 --> 01:19:20.537
them but we finally are

01:19:21.016 --> 01:19:23.118
like uh after like a long

01:19:23.179 --> 01:19:24.600
period of our accounts

01:19:24.619 --> 01:19:26.801
being like totally fucked

01:19:26.942 --> 01:19:28.162
sorry this is not about tax

01:19:28.202 --> 01:19:30.243
but it's about management accounting

01:19:31.618 --> 01:19:33.699
We finally have started

01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:36.261
getting quarterly

01:19:36.983 --> 01:19:38.543
management accounting that

01:19:38.604 --> 01:19:40.305
is actually trackable for

01:19:41.125 --> 01:19:42.706
the crypto stuff because it took a full,

01:19:42.865 --> 01:19:44.546
we switched accountants over a year ago.

01:19:44.567 --> 01:19:46.529
It takes a full financial

01:19:46.588 --> 01:19:47.649
year for everything to

01:19:47.708 --> 01:19:49.250
settle down to the point

01:19:49.270 --> 01:19:50.331
that you can get management

01:19:50.350 --> 01:19:51.492
accounts because of the way

01:19:51.551 --> 01:19:53.052
the token prices are calculated.

01:19:53.613 --> 01:19:54.974
We finally are in a position

01:19:55.113 --> 01:19:56.354
that last quarter,

01:19:56.375 --> 01:19:58.595
I got a fucking management

01:19:58.636 --> 01:19:59.237
accounts thing.

01:20:00.284 --> 01:20:01.525
And it's now backdated for

01:20:01.546 --> 01:20:02.506
the entire of the financial

01:20:02.527 --> 01:20:03.167
year just gone.

01:20:04.408 --> 01:20:04.967
Oh, my God.

01:20:06.850 --> 01:20:08.451
But the reason that this has

01:20:08.470 --> 01:20:09.452
suddenly jumped into my

01:20:09.771 --> 01:20:10.572
head is because the thing

01:20:10.591 --> 01:20:11.092
you were saying about

01:20:11.132 --> 01:20:12.132
waking up in the middle of the night,

01:20:12.194 --> 01:20:12.774
realizing what you're

01:20:12.793 --> 01:20:13.493
spending on servers.

01:20:13.975 --> 01:20:14.074
Yeah.

01:20:15.234 --> 01:20:16.434
when you have somebody who

01:20:16.493 --> 01:20:17.755
is now like your

01:20:17.774 --> 01:20:18.715
accountants in this case

01:20:19.414 --> 01:20:20.876
they now give you a report

01:20:21.015 --> 01:20:21.975
and you know that you know

01:20:22.015 --> 01:20:23.716
you have like x providers

01:20:23.777 --> 01:20:25.077
right and these boxes for

01:20:25.117 --> 01:20:26.497
these test nets or whatever

01:20:26.557 --> 01:20:27.398
are just over there and

01:20:27.417 --> 01:20:28.877
you're like ah you know we

01:20:28.917 --> 01:20:30.099
have a longer commitment on

01:20:30.118 --> 01:20:31.099
them we don't worry about

01:20:31.139 --> 01:20:33.100
them when somebody puts all

01:20:33.140 --> 01:20:34.380
that shit on an itemized

01:20:34.420 --> 01:20:35.740
list that you can even with

01:20:35.761 --> 01:20:36.961
a short attention span like

01:20:37.001 --> 01:20:38.041
glance over and you can see

01:20:38.400 --> 01:20:39.402
quarter by quarter

01:20:40.378 --> 01:20:41.460
what those numbers are like

01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:44.680
top line service, top line miscellaneous,

01:20:44.742 --> 01:20:47.743
top line, whatever you're like, Oh God.

01:20:48.082 --> 01:20:48.304
Right.

01:20:48.384 --> 01:20:48.564
Yeah.

01:20:48.604 --> 01:20:48.783
Me,

01:20:48.904 --> 01:20:50.604
when I sometimes do wake up in the

01:20:50.625 --> 01:20:51.444
middle of the night, I'm like,

01:20:51.465 --> 01:20:52.765
did I remember to cancel that service?

01:20:52.786 --> 01:20:53.787
Suddenly when you see the

01:20:53.827 --> 01:20:54.587
numbers are involved,

01:20:54.627 --> 01:20:56.268
you're like fucking should

01:20:56.307 --> 01:20:58.009
get up at that exact moment,

01:20:58.109 --> 01:20:58.909
go downstairs,

01:20:59.010 --> 01:21:00.250
grab the laptop and deal

01:21:00.270 --> 01:21:02.371
with it like that fucking second.

01:21:02.431 --> 01:21:03.712
Cause Oh my God, it adds up.

01:21:05.453 --> 01:21:08.314
Are you telling me that you just now,

01:21:09.945 --> 01:21:11.207
Have fucking accounting

01:21:11.226 --> 01:21:12.969
software with a ledger.

01:21:15.110 --> 01:21:15.292
No.

01:21:16.733 --> 01:21:17.434
So what are you talking?

01:21:17.493 --> 01:21:17.713
Like,

01:21:17.734 --> 01:21:20.537
this should just be in your general

01:21:20.577 --> 01:21:20.877
ledger.

01:21:21.658 --> 01:21:22.658
How come you don't know this stuff?

01:21:22.679 --> 01:21:23.600
What the fuck are you talking about?

01:21:24.261 --> 01:21:24.360
Well,

01:21:24.381 --> 01:21:25.462
you don't know what your profit and

01:21:25.502 --> 01:21:27.163
loss position is, do you?

01:21:27.184 --> 01:21:27.744
Of course you do.

01:21:28.104 --> 01:21:29.386
You can fucking pull that up right now.

01:21:30.189 --> 01:21:31.649
can pull that up but it's

01:21:31.689 --> 01:21:33.070
not so much it's not so

01:21:33.091 --> 01:21:34.150
much that it's it's

01:21:34.551 --> 01:21:35.492
projecting it forward for

01:21:35.532 --> 01:21:36.631
your current financial year

01:21:36.692 --> 01:21:37.953
is the problem and also

01:21:37.972 --> 01:21:39.453
when we have a we just have

01:21:39.474 --> 01:21:41.534
a balance sheet and we can

01:21:41.555 --> 01:21:42.655
do profit and loss and a

01:21:42.676 --> 01:21:43.695
balance sheet we can see

01:21:43.855 --> 01:21:45.436
like where everything's

01:21:45.476 --> 01:21:47.978
going we didn't have any of

01:21:47.997 --> 01:21:49.418
that stuff because of the

01:21:49.878 --> 01:21:50.479
position we were in

01:21:50.520 --> 01:21:51.680
previously that doesn't

01:21:51.699 --> 01:21:52.621
really necessarily matter I

01:21:52.661 --> 01:21:53.841
think the the point is like

01:21:53.900 --> 01:21:56.143
the other thing I've noticed is before

01:21:57.327 --> 01:21:57.747
I used to,

01:21:57.947 --> 01:21:59.347
I used to run all this shit

01:21:59.408 --> 01:22:03.091
through like a, a personal card, like,

01:22:03.110 --> 01:22:05.292
or my, or my partners, whatever.

01:22:05.412 --> 01:22:07.154
But so we do expense reports, right?

01:22:07.234 --> 01:22:07.974
So I would run an expense

01:22:08.014 --> 01:22:08.694
report every month,

01:22:09.414 --> 01:22:10.775
which is a pain in the dick, but,

01:22:10.876 --> 01:22:11.917
but you run an expense report.

01:22:11.957 --> 01:22:13.257
So there it is.

01:22:13.318 --> 01:22:14.318
I know what the charge is.

01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:15.519
I have to add it, you know,

01:22:15.538 --> 01:22:16.760
I'm classifying it correctly,

01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:17.300
all that kind of stuff.

01:22:17.820 --> 01:22:18.400
And I was like, you know what?

01:22:18.421 --> 01:22:19.082
I'm getting rid of this.

01:22:19.101 --> 01:22:19.761
I'm just going to go,

01:22:19.782 --> 01:22:21.523
I'm just going to do like a, you know,

01:22:21.582 --> 01:22:23.385
a corporate fucking thing.

01:22:23.425 --> 01:22:24.204
And then the corporate thing

01:22:24.225 --> 01:22:25.105
automatically pulls, um,

01:22:25.902 --> 01:22:27.182
It's a debit-type structure,

01:22:27.222 --> 01:22:28.083
and it just goes right there.

01:22:28.505 --> 01:22:30.886
That has been poor because

01:22:31.608 --> 01:22:32.969
then when you see an

01:22:33.009 --> 01:22:34.650
expense report and you're

01:22:34.711 --> 01:22:35.671
putting in a $4,000 fucking

01:22:35.712 --> 01:22:37.172
COLO bill or something like that,

01:22:37.434 --> 01:22:38.975
you're like, what the fuck is in this?

01:22:40.436 --> 01:22:41.818
Because it's coming out of you,

01:22:41.837 --> 01:22:42.738
and I'm carrying that

01:22:42.798 --> 01:22:43.920
balance for however long

01:22:43.939 --> 01:22:45.322
because I'm late on expenses.

01:22:45.862 --> 01:22:46.742
It's like, what the hell is in this?

01:22:46.782 --> 01:22:46.921
Like,

01:22:46.962 --> 01:22:48.143
what the fuck is this thing for grant?

01:22:48.483 --> 01:22:49.943
When it comes out directly as a debit,

01:22:50.404 --> 01:22:51.444
it just goes right.

01:22:51.484 --> 01:22:52.323
Like it's automatically there.

01:22:52.363 --> 01:22:53.704
It's just pulled still big deal.

01:22:53.744 --> 01:22:55.104
I'm all I do is I click a button that says,

01:22:55.145 --> 01:22:56.006
yeah, proof it's fine.

01:22:56.746 --> 01:22:58.126
Um, or like it just gets, you know,

01:22:58.185 --> 01:22:59.466
just getting tagged the right way to the,

01:22:59.707 --> 01:23:00.287
to the P and L.

01:23:01.478 --> 01:23:02.698
that is more dangerous

01:23:02.779 --> 01:23:04.581
because what I've noticed is like you get,

01:23:04.701 --> 01:23:06.162
you get complacent on

01:23:06.502 --> 01:23:09.083
exactly what's in those where I'm,

01:23:09.203 --> 01:23:10.125
I'm dumping bills in there,

01:23:10.164 --> 01:23:10.685
but I'm not really,

01:23:10.706 --> 01:23:12.046
you're not really like you

01:23:12.067 --> 01:23:13.108
still have a P and L right.

01:23:13.467 --> 01:23:14.408
But the P and L shows like

01:23:14.448 --> 01:23:15.189
whatever it's going to show.

01:23:15.248 --> 01:23:15.429
No.

01:23:15.469 --> 01:23:15.609
Right.

01:23:15.628 --> 01:23:16.609
But you don't know,

01:23:16.630 --> 01:23:18.612
is that P and L like that looks,

01:23:18.692 --> 01:23:19.192
is it fine?

01:23:19.252 --> 01:23:20.172
Is it within range?

01:23:20.193 --> 01:23:21.634
Is it next to last next year

01:23:22.015 --> 01:23:22.954
or last year or whatever else?

01:23:22.994 --> 01:23:24.115
But it's not the same as

01:23:24.636 --> 01:23:25.636
actually going through every line.

01:23:25.657 --> 01:23:26.377
I'm going to say, what the hell,

01:23:26.398 --> 01:23:26.938
why am I paying?

01:23:27.838 --> 01:23:28.680
you know this dollar amount

01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:30.100
for this specific thing

01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:32.041
which I think I did better

01:23:32.140 --> 01:23:32.921
when it was an actual

01:23:32.962 --> 01:23:33.841
expense report because

01:23:34.342 --> 01:23:35.243
you'd actually comb through

01:23:35.262 --> 01:23:36.384
every single line to get

01:23:36.604 --> 01:23:37.685
annoyed at whatever the

01:23:37.765 --> 01:23:39.565
stupid ass server I'm

01:23:39.786 --> 01:23:40.886
paying for that whatever

01:23:40.905 --> 01:23:43.467
the fuck so don't do that

01:23:43.507 --> 01:23:44.328
don't do automatic billing

01:23:44.368 --> 01:23:45.569
is what I'm saying goes

01:23:45.588 --> 01:23:46.770
back to it comes back to

01:23:46.789 --> 01:23:49.150
the whatever the fuck it

01:23:49.171 --> 01:23:50.811
always does it always does

01:23:50.832 --> 01:23:51.832
that's how it goes um do

01:23:52.472 --> 01:23:54.833
you want to talk about any

01:23:54.854 --> 01:23:55.835
of these other news items

01:23:57.185 --> 01:23:58.728
How about friend of the show,

01:23:59.048 --> 01:24:00.189
Don Cryptomium,

01:24:00.569 --> 01:24:02.653
and previous Game of Nodes award winner,

01:24:05.416 --> 01:24:10.721
Colin, also friend of the show, Sonny.

01:24:11.342 --> 01:24:12.423
Calling out Sonny, yeah.

01:24:12.885 --> 01:24:13.725
Yeah, calling out Sonny.

01:24:14.537 --> 01:24:15.658
There's a link to a tweet.

01:24:16.219 --> 01:24:17.699
It's quite funny, actually, to be fair.

01:24:18.161 --> 01:24:18.560
John says,

01:24:18.581 --> 01:24:19.542
I could teach you in advance to

01:24:19.582 --> 01:24:20.363
another level, Sonny.

01:24:21.042 --> 01:24:22.385
I could teach you instead of saying, quote,

01:24:22.425 --> 01:24:23.045
we didn't have another

01:24:23.145 --> 01:24:25.127
option with UST to saying, quote,

01:24:25.167 --> 01:24:25.747
we fucked up.

01:24:26.889 --> 01:24:29.671
Also, instead of saying community prop is,

01:24:29.872 --> 01:24:32.073
quote, good, more liquidity.

01:24:32.094 --> 01:24:33.975
I'm not sure if that's what he meant.

01:24:34.315 --> 01:24:36.217
To saying nobody needs that shit.

01:24:39.301 --> 01:24:39.943
There's a link here.

01:24:40.422 --> 01:24:41.262
Also, what I noticed is, like,

01:24:41.603 --> 01:24:42.484
fucking Twitter threads,

01:24:42.524 --> 01:24:44.145
it's impossible to follow in this shit.

01:24:44.164 --> 01:24:45.706
Like, the fucking UI sucks now.

01:24:47.407 --> 01:24:47.787
But anyway,

01:24:47.827 --> 01:24:48.567
there's a good thread about

01:24:48.587 --> 01:24:53.149
them going back about, again, I guess,

01:24:53.149 --> 01:24:54.470
2020 hindsight and vision, right?

01:24:57.311 --> 01:24:57.492
Yeah.

01:24:59.172 --> 01:24:59.752
But apparently, 40,000... Wait,

01:24:59.773 --> 01:25:00.533
I was about to say $40,000.

01:25:00.533 --> 01:25:01.173
No, 40,000 Osmo a day.

01:25:01.194 --> 01:25:01.854
Different thing for...

01:25:07.233 --> 01:25:08.694
it is still revenue it is

01:25:08.713 --> 01:25:10.675
still revenue more revenue

01:25:10.694 --> 01:25:13.737
than most of the cosmos uh

01:25:13.756 --> 01:25:15.918
yeah I would think I don't

01:25:15.939 --> 01:25:17.139
know the cosmos definitions

01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:18.659
I would love to see this

01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:20.320
graph for uh the for adam

01:25:22.181 --> 01:25:23.823
yeah I would love to see

01:25:23.863 --> 01:25:25.083
this graph for adam I think

01:25:25.104 --> 01:25:27.265
it would be it would be it

01:25:27.305 --> 01:25:29.447
would be fascinating atom

01:25:29.506 --> 01:25:30.886
is kept alive I would guess

01:25:30.926 --> 01:25:32.948
by on ramping off ramping

01:25:33.149 --> 01:25:35.069
and then brand name degeneracy

01:25:35.871 --> 01:25:36.730
So like people who've just

01:25:36.751 --> 01:25:38.332
seen the name and they're like, oh,

01:25:38.351 --> 01:25:39.351
I want to get into cosmos.

01:25:39.412 --> 01:25:39.551
Right.

01:25:39.612 --> 01:25:40.252
I buy Atom.

01:25:40.353 --> 01:25:40.813
Okay, cool.

01:25:40.872 --> 01:25:41.393
I buy Atom.

01:25:41.453 --> 01:25:42.052
I hold Atom.

01:25:42.132 --> 01:25:42.412
Okay.

01:25:42.432 --> 01:25:43.014
I hold Atom.

01:25:43.054 --> 01:25:43.293
Great.

01:25:43.814 --> 01:25:44.033
Yeah.

01:25:45.113 --> 01:25:46.475
Like all of the holders,

01:25:46.515 --> 01:25:47.494
all the diamond hands will

01:25:47.534 --> 01:25:49.935
be random people custodying

01:25:49.996 --> 01:25:50.817
or like cracking and

01:25:50.856 --> 01:25:52.957
Coinbase because they heard about cosmos.

01:25:53.096 --> 01:25:54.518
I reckon like in the only

01:25:54.537 --> 01:25:56.958
brand association they have is Atom.

01:25:57.618 --> 01:25:59.640
And then like everybody

01:25:59.659 --> 01:26:00.619
who's actually in the eco

01:26:00.699 --> 01:26:02.640
is just using Atom as their off ramp.

01:26:06.001 --> 01:26:08.301
probably this is a good back

01:26:08.341 --> 01:26:09.983
and forth there's some

01:26:10.023 --> 01:26:11.762
quasar stuff in here there

01:26:11.903 --> 01:26:14.104
is some sunny saying we got

01:26:14.144 --> 01:26:14.885
heavily caught up in the

01:26:14.904 --> 01:26:16.505
ust frenzy and drank the

01:26:16.564 --> 01:26:18.025
kool-aid ourselves there's

01:26:18.065 --> 01:26:18.765
a bunch of stuff in here

01:26:18.966 --> 01:26:20.106
going back to ust is like

01:26:21.027 --> 01:26:22.228
yeah we're pulling out some

01:26:22.287 --> 01:26:23.847
fucking skeletons yeah

01:26:24.247 --> 01:26:25.349
these are deep cuts at this

01:26:25.408 --> 01:26:27.210
point it's over two when

01:26:27.250 --> 01:26:28.409
it's over fucking two years

01:26:28.470 --> 01:26:30.451
ago like yeah I mean

01:26:32.296 --> 01:26:33.077
Boredom is real.

01:26:33.596 --> 01:26:34.738
Fucking bear market boredom.

01:26:36.059 --> 01:26:36.538
Exactly.

01:26:38.261 --> 01:26:38.921
Old wounds.

01:26:39.942 --> 01:26:42.944
UST was when people still had hope.

01:26:45.886 --> 01:26:48.707
West in peace.

01:26:48.768 --> 01:26:50.088
Definitely sums up the Cosmos saying,

01:26:50.810 --> 01:26:51.430
even though they go back

01:26:51.470 --> 01:26:52.671
and forth about all this bullshit,

01:26:54.112 --> 01:26:54.733
the Cosmos,

01:26:54.792 --> 01:26:57.694
this is like such a Cosmos Twitter tweet.

01:26:58.314 --> 01:27:00.037
Props to Sonny for engaging here.

01:27:00.899 --> 01:27:02.979
Like forget all this shit.

01:27:03.659 --> 01:27:06.360
Props to study for engaging here though.

01:27:06.701 --> 01:27:08.981
And kind of doing short post copying,

01:27:09.141 --> 01:27:10.021
coping to the error.

01:27:10.641 --> 01:27:12.863
I got wrecked, but still very,

01:27:12.922 --> 01:27:14.083
very Osmo maxi.

01:27:14.283 --> 01:27:15.904
That is like fucking,

01:27:15.923 --> 01:27:17.465
you should put that in the Louvre.

01:27:17.664 --> 01:27:18.704
That's fucking amazing.

01:27:20.286 --> 01:27:21.865
It's the thing is that's

01:27:21.945 --> 01:27:23.167
basically a drill tweet.

01:27:23.287 --> 01:27:24.806
That's basically a drill tweet.

01:27:26.148 --> 01:27:26.247
Yeah.

01:27:26.287 --> 01:27:26.868
I forgot about that.

01:27:27.108 --> 01:27:29.088
Whatever happened to drill the week.

01:27:29.128 --> 01:27:29.809
Did you lose your book?

01:27:31.583 --> 01:27:32.145
Jesus Christ,

01:27:32.164 --> 01:27:33.005
how did we forget about that?

01:27:33.045 --> 01:27:33.765
We only have like one.

01:27:33.786 --> 01:27:34.787
We had a week off and then

01:27:34.867 --> 01:27:36.488
we just completely forgot it existed.

01:27:36.509 --> 01:27:37.270
All right, say when.

01:27:37.949 --> 01:27:39.452
We only have one bit on this show.

01:27:39.471 --> 01:27:44.197
How did we forget about this?

01:27:44.216 --> 01:27:46.418
Bringing back drill tweet of the week.

01:27:46.439 --> 01:27:48.119
Okay, say when.

01:27:48.161 --> 01:27:49.782
Stop, stop, stop.

01:27:50.382 --> 01:27:51.423
Left page or right page?

01:27:52.284 --> 01:27:53.586
The left page, center.

01:27:55.006 --> 01:27:55.667
Third from the top.

01:27:56.458 --> 01:27:57.378
want to rug this show right

01:27:57.399 --> 01:27:58.380
when you read okay this is

01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:01.201
uh this section is economy

01:28:01.561 --> 01:28:03.863
and the markets uh the

01:28:03.903 --> 01:28:06.564
tweet is fucking hell

01:28:06.583 --> 01:28:07.243
there's some great ones

01:28:07.283 --> 01:28:10.046
here uh seems to me that in this foul

01:28:39.302 --> 01:28:39.963
I'm a genius.

01:28:40.284 --> 01:28:41.226
You're a fucking wanker.

01:28:41.287 --> 01:28:42.189
You'll never see me again.