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That's it.

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Great.

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What a week.

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That's fucking wonderful.

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Shit.

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What's happening?

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What's fucking happening?

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Welcome to Game of Modes,

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the jazz composition podcast.

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We're here, as always,

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with one of the 90s

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foremost young improvisers

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driving an absolute

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trailblazing effort through

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the East Coast saxophone scene.

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As always,

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also joining us from the West Coast,

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one of the up and coming

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stars of modal guitar playing,

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Schulze, good to see you again.

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And sorry, no, what is it you do?

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Eye candy.

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I'm just eye candy.

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I just show up.

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He's a tambourine.

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He doesn't know his inverted

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seventh from his flat third.

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Anyway.

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What was that, Schulze?

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I said you'd throw down with the cowbell.

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Oh, yeah.

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What is it?

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The triangle?

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I mean, is that even cowbell?

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Oh, he's gone.

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Right, there we are.

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Bam.

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Here today, gone tomorrow.

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I'm using the shortcuts here

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and the E and the D. A

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little bit confused sometimes.

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You get the D confused sometimes.

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With the E, yeah.

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With the E. I got the heater

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on in the background,

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so I'm trying to be

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courteous and not have that hum.

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Is it getting cold?

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This house is cold.

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It's not cold generally,

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just this fucking house is cold.

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It's like 10 degrees outside,

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fucking minus 12 in here.

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Is it like above a

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aboriginal burial ground or

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something like what like

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what why why exactly is it

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well it's in melbourne so

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it could be um is that

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minus 12 centigrade I think

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that was an exaggeration I

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was gonna say because that

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that's like that that's

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like real cold that's it

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that's like I wasn't like

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maybe it's 15c in here

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maybe it's just right okay

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so it's basically summer yeah

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Okay.

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So, so in London, yeah,

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it is summer in the UK.

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Now, uh, off the 1st of May,

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you're into summer.

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Don't know the, Hey,

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it's telling you any different.

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Uh,

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and I believe it is 13 degrees in the

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sun today.

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That was the temperature.

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So move immediately.

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This is why,

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this is why the UK has a

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shortage of junior doctors

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then becoming real doctors

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because all of them moved

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to Australia and get paid

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more money for better weather.

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Well, they get paid a better weather,

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but there is better weather and yeah,

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we have a problem.

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So it would appear as though

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we have no viewers today.

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because I'm sure one of you

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all are actually viewing on YouTube.

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So, hey, there you go.

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No, I can, though.

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We can bump it up.

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We've been boring enough to

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totally make everybody stop coming.

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To be fair,

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we are 10 minutes early to our

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own podcast, so... 10 minutes late?

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5 minutes late, 10 minutes early.

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Exactly, exactly.

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Six of you and half a dozen of the other.

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So...

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what's up lads what is up I

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missed you guys last week

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yeah it was kind of a it

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was like a round robin like

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some people showed up and

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they left and other people

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showed up I was like yeah I

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i was yeah I've I had an

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absolute crack in wednesday

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last wednesday as well I

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was in a great mood and

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then I think the podcast

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was what took me over the

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edge to being totally

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exhausted and then my

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thursday was just like you

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know one of those days

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where you just you go into work

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and you're there all day and

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you like type and stuff.

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And then you go home at the end,

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you go home at the end of

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the day and you're like,

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the fuck did I do?

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And you look at your to-do

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list and nothing on it is done.

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And you're like, yeah,

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how the fuck did an entire

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working day get absorbed in what?

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Like,

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I didn't even make a note of what I did.

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Just like nothing happened on Thursday.

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Um,

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So yeah, that was all the time.

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Like literally that's his business.

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So because like I, I, I don't,

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what the fuck was I dealing with?

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I dealt with something this morning, but I,

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there's two things I needed to do today,

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which I still haven't done.

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And it's just like random shit comes up,

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right?

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Like you, like some,

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you get sidetracked on this

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fucking thing.

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Oh God, like Apto storage again.

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What the hell?

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It's the never ending story.

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You see that, that exchange in the,

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in the valve conversation,

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like storage is just very gently going up,

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even with pruning configured properly.

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But it's like,

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it's been pretty much static, hasn't it?

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From when pruning first

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kicked in and it's now

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creeping up by like a

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couple of gig a day.

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And you're like, okay,

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this is not like a today, tomorrow,

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next week, next month problem.

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But it will run out eventually.

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It will run out eventually.

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And, you know, it's time to do some maths,

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right?

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Blow it away and start over.

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How much storage are you

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sitting on over there for the future,

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Dr. Frey?

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Not loads, actually,

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for our main net validator.

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Because we had to... There

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was like a diktat, if you like,

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to... We shouldn't use that word.

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Let's just imagine that I

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said there was a...

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We were asked to,

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and I didn't use a problematic word.

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Anyway,

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the word came down from on high

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that we had to migrate our validators.

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because of spec changes, uh,

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like six months ago, something like that.

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Um, and the,

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the only servers that would do

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the job were by and large, uh, AMD,

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Epic nines, um, right names, uh,

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rising seven nine fifties did.

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Okay.

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Didn't they,

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but they were a bit more patchy.

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Like sometimes it depends on the provider.

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Um,

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but basically the notice we had from

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our provider,

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we couldn't get a massive heart.

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We basically could either

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get eight terabytes, um,

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or I think maybe two,

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maybe even one actually on

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one of the boxes,

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but we just had to go with

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what we could get.

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Um,

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so I think it's the VFN only has a one

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terabyte drive and that's

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the one that's concerning

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me a little bit.

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Um, yeah, fuck it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So we do actually have an

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agreement because they

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couldn't provide us with

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the boxes we wanted.

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We do have like an agreement

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in place that we can

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upgrade the box and just

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pay the difference basically, um,

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as whatever the change we want becomes,

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um,

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available because they were

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like sorry we can't provide

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it at this exact moment

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that's fine but it would

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involve blowing away the

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state of the vfn because

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like they thought oh yeah

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we're just gonna like take

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out the two the two

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terabyte hard drive

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whatever is already

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currently attached to that

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node I'm not they're not

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going to like just give a

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free mounted drive on there

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and even if they did

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actually the configuration

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would be complex enough

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that we'd have to blow it away anyway

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From what I understand,

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we have to provision a new

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box with the new

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configuration to take advantage of that.

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So it means migrating again,

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which is a bit of a pain in the butt.

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But not in the world.

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The VFN migration is... Who gives a shit?

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Just set up a new one and it's fine.

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Turn off the old one.

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The VFN I'm less worried about.

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I suppose the point is that

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as soon as we... Because

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the validator is also on a

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smaller disk than I would like.

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What provider are we talking about here?

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OVH.

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Oh, yeah.

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So the problem was that we

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had had a conversation

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about geographic locations

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and we had drawn one still in Europe,

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but we quite specifically

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had to run in Europe.

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Did we actually have to run

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a VFN and the Val in

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different data sense?

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I can't remember.

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Anyway,

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the outcome of a conversation was

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we needed to do something quite specific.

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And they were like, oh, yeah,

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you can absolutely have

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this config nailed on in, like, let's say,

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Ireland.

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It's like, can't run it in Ireland.

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Sorry.

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What have you got in Ireland?

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Poland, Strasbourg, somewhere like that.

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Obviously,

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Poland and Strasbourg are very

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different places, so I should remember,

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but I'd have to look at my

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billing to remind myself

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which data center it's in.

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But yeah.

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So that was that.

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That was a bit annoying,

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but then they were like, it's okay,

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you can just change it.

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And we were like, yeah, fine, fine, fine.

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And then now when you do,

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you actually go like,

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should we change this?

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You're like,

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doing another migration

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voluntarily is a pain in the butt,

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but whatever.

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Whatever.

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Yeah.

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I've been migrating away

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from OVH as much as possible.

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Me too, actually.

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I don't have anything there.

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You really have a real beef with OVH,

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don't you now?

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Uh,

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they just kind of got under my nose a

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couple of times.

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Their customer service is

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pretty bad and their billing is shit.

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And it's also, it's also like in the,

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in the, you know, blockchain industry,

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it's pretty saturated now as well.

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Trying to like just get some

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diversity out into some other shit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But I do have some just like

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dirt cheap boxes there that

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I keep her in because I got

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them on special ages ago.

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They're just cheap.

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So until those hard drives are like trash.

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Until they're spent.

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$40 a month while you burn up NVMe drives.

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I will give them something.

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They do use good drives

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because I've been chewing

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those things hard for a

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long time with the IOPS and

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they're still hanging around.

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So I'll give them credit

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where credit's due.

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They do use quality hard drives.

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Yeah, I mean,

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we had some real problems

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when we were doing like

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really heavy load tests

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with Apto stuff with some

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providers and bizarrely, not bizarrely,

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but OVH were good.

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And Hetzner were good.

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Hazard didn't break a sweat.

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Even at a lowest back,

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they didn't break a sweat, really.

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Yeah.

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I a while ago managed to

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finally get an account with

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Hetzner after they denied

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me a business account many times.

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You have to set up a new

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company that wasn't big

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ball with blockchain.

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No, I just did some other stuff.

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But I don't want to... In

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case they're listening,

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I don't want to say it.

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That's such a validator answer.

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Nah, it's like, yeah.

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Other stuff.

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It's not important.

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It doesn't matter.

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So, but man,

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you can't go past their

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auction boxes on the old AX101s.

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They are exceptional.

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100 Australian bucks.

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And you can abuse the shit out of them.

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I moved everything to Ryzen 7.

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It's all 7950s here now.

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Ryzen 9?

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7950?

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Yeah, 7950.

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Yeah, Ryzen 9.

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Correct.

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Yeah,

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I have... So these are all 5950 X3D

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boxes.

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They're still... They got some chop.

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And you can get them with like two, well,

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the auction boxes have 3.8

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terabyte hard drives on them as well.

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So you can just beat them up and stuff.

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They're great.

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Um, but, uh, man,

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some of these other

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providers we've been using are also good.

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Um, there's one which, uh,

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has a P in the name of their hard drives.

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Don't have much chop.

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I've been beating those up pretty bad.

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Uh,

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and actually I've had a problem with one.

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I was talking to you about this earlier.

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So I've had a problem with, um,

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One of those boxes for days there,

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they put two new main boards in it.

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And then the second main

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board they put in the super

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micro one had a bad Nick in it.

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And so it's just, you can get,

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you can get it working,

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you can configure it,

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but then after you configure it,

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like it'll last about three

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or four hours and then the

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PCIe will disconnect and

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then it's you have to restart it.

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So, uh, you thought it was, I,

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I thought it was a kernel bug.

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Yeah.

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And then, so, you know,

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that was Ubuntu 22.04.

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And then the provider's like, oh,

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there's probably a kernel bug with that,

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with the new motherboard.

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He updated, didn't fix it.

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I reinstalled the entire

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operating system and all of

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the blockchain services

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that were on that bloody thing.

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Took me hours.

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And then on like in the third hour,

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it stopped working again.

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So we've got an email trail

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that's about 40 emails long.

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And on the last go, it's like,

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I'm just going to put a, you know,

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like a external neck on it.

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An actual neck.

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Yeah, that seems to have fixed it.

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So apparently that brand new

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board had a dodgy neck.

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So kind of annoying.

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I mean,

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the only thing good about those places,

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like you and I both use some smaller,

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relatively smaller providers.

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that have racks and good

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data centers that are well connected,

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that have smart, knowledgeable people,

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but they're still small providers, right?

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So they don't,

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there's not like 20,000

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boxes sitting back there

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and they just provision another one,

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right?

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Like you're in an email

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thread with them to solve the problem.

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Yeah, they're built to order.

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So when you order one,

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you wait three or four days.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, speaking of waiting... Yeah,

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but you guys are ordering, like,

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fucking boutique servers,

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like you want sourdough or... No,

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not at all.

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These are all straight... Nah, not at all.

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These are pretty pedestrian.

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I mean, some of these... I mean,

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we have some epics on order

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that are not pedestrian,

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but for the most part, these are, like,

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desktop... These are

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desktop CPUs shoved in, like,

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1U servers with, like,

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fast NVMe.

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There's nothing... They're edge servers.

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They're meant to be destroyed.

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Yeah, I mean... Anything boutique,

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we build ourselves.

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I'm not like... I get, you know,

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decentralization and everything,

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and also risk of large

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providers and shitty service, typically.

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But what is the rationale

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for using a smaller provider

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for something that's still

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basically off the shelf but

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they're going to have to

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build it like a like you

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say a pedestrian spec and

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if something goes wrong

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you're in an email trail

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rather than like the thing

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with the big providers is

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generally speaking that

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that stuff works till it

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absolutely doesn't if you

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have a problem that box is

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toast it's gone forget

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about it it ain't never

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coming back you don't need

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to get an email thread

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because you know it's dead

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If your heads in a box goes down,

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that data center just got

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wiped off the face of the

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earth by a tactical... No, not at all.

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Dude,

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those boxes go down all the fucking time.

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That's a cattle... The whole

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thing is like,

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like our servers, pets or servers, cattle,

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Ovi, like at Hetzner,

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those servers are fucking cattle.

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Like they,

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they're dealing with thousands

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of them and they're all,

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none of them have cases.

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They're all shoved in a rack somewhere.

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If something breaks,

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they rip it out and put

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another one that looks exactly like it.

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Right.

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Where at some of these boutiques,

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they don't have that much

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hardware sitting around.

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So it's like, they're more like pets.

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Like they got to go take them and like,

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somebody literally goes and

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puts a nick into a card or

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into a board that would

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never happen at hetsner

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ever like they would never

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have anything that would be

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100 like redundant right

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they would just go heads

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there's probably just got a

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button in the dashboard

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that ejects the server into

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the trash and a new one

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just gets automatically

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shoved in there it's like

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the mate it's like the

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matrix that's what I want I

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ideally all the hosts it

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comes down to a fucking

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Yeah, exactly.

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When you're released from the Matrix.

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That's exactly what it is.

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It goes in the back.

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It shoots out the back of

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the building into a huge trash pile.

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And then there's a big lorry

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comes up and picks it up.

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Actually,

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that would be a pretty good

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analog because they're

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water-cooled at Hetzner.

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So they probably do have the

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plugs in them.

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Yeah.

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The, yeah, I mean,

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the big brain move is just to, you know,

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just to abstract away until

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you have to worry about the service.

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If only somebody would come

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up with such a service,

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I anticipate there might be some money.

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And then come monthly for your first born.

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The only thing by us that

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can't explode is this

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fricking aptus validator.

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Everything else.

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I think we run everything.

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Every single thing is redundant.

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Every disposable.

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Yeah.

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They're all disposable,

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and they're all redundant.

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Except for literally the one

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thing that carries more TBL

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than anything else that we run.

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I'm relying on two NVMe

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drives that are working their asses off.

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They are working at the moment.

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Isn't BFN just absolutely smashing,

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smashing not only network connectivity,

00:18:06.134 --> 00:18:06.934
but... No,

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I block the shit out of fucking

00:18:08.718 --> 00:18:09.459
connections on that thing.

00:18:09.965 --> 00:18:12.406
Yeah, well, so we had that thing,

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didn't we, a little while ago?

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So the VFN is still doing a lot of writing,

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but the network connection is way down.

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So we had a thing a couple

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of weeks ago where I just

00:18:22.712 --> 00:18:23.873
noticed getting a

00:18:23.932 --> 00:18:25.173
monitoring ping being like, hey,

00:18:25.193 --> 00:18:28.055
by the way, your network usage is way up,

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way up, way up, way up, way up, way up.

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I was like, okay, okay, okay.

00:18:32.178 --> 00:18:32.657
That seems fine.

00:18:33.378 --> 00:18:34.480
Maybe there's like a load

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test or something going on

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that I don't know about it or whatever.

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Maybe there's a lot of NFT

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degeneracy going on.

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Okay.

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Forget about it.

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Um, and yeah, so we, we, I looked into it.

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I was like, ah, it's probably fine.

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And it was coming with the numbers.

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Big is big.

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A lot of, a lot of traffic.

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And I, I post it.

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Uh, I sent,

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I think it said you serve a message.

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I was just like, sir, like,

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like what kind of,

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what kind of numbers are you?

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And it was just like, yeah, you're,

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you're getting, you're getting totally,

00:19:01.741 --> 00:19:02.583
totally rinse there.

00:19:03.282 --> 00:19:04.103
obviously did some digging

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and there was just like

00:19:05.723 --> 00:19:06.884
some project was just using

00:19:07.124 --> 00:19:09.224
our our infra for free uh

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and it was like uh oh

00:19:10.704 --> 00:19:11.765
really yeah in terms of

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yeah must have been yeah

00:19:12.786 --> 00:19:13.526
and it was like time to

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time to crack out the time

00:19:15.026 --> 00:19:16.106
to crack out the block list

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like yeah yeah like I well

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just actually the other way

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around just just set up an

00:19:21.667 --> 00:19:23.949
allow list with nothing on it and

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i don't even know who's

00:19:26.770 --> 00:19:27.871
hitting the vfn like I just

00:19:28.111 --> 00:19:29.172
if they're like I see a lot

00:19:29.192 --> 00:19:30.653
of 400s like a lot of like

00:19:30.712 --> 00:19:32.233
weird yeah yeah block all

00:19:32.253 --> 00:19:33.394
that fucking shit I was I

00:19:33.414 --> 00:19:34.836
was like look if somebody

00:19:34.875 --> 00:19:36.096
has a legitimate use case

00:19:36.396 --> 00:19:37.718
they can come to us and we

00:19:37.778 --> 00:19:39.898
have an allow list yeah I

00:19:39.919 --> 00:19:40.859
still I still have to be

00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:41.980
honest I really don't know

00:19:42.340 --> 00:19:44.602
how the vfn fits into like

00:19:44.622 --> 00:19:45.843
I understand how it fits in

00:19:45.883 --> 00:19:47.683
the kind of ecosystem of of

00:19:47.763 --> 00:19:48.964
the circle validators and

00:19:49.005 --> 00:19:49.846
like the next ring and all

00:19:49.865 --> 00:19:50.846
that kind of stuff yeah but

00:19:50.905 --> 00:19:51.626
I don't know who's hitting

00:19:51.666 --> 00:19:52.528
that rpc and why

00:19:53.387 --> 00:19:55.528
so I think it's because it's

00:19:55.910 --> 00:19:57.089
um you know they're

00:19:57.190 --> 00:19:58.510
publicly identifiable

00:19:58.530 --> 00:20:01.532
they're very easy to

00:20:01.633 --> 00:20:03.173
identify I think it's

00:20:03.354 --> 00:20:04.914
literally that teams who

00:20:04.954 --> 00:20:06.976
don't want to pay for what

00:20:07.016 --> 00:20:08.196
we would call rpc but it's

00:20:08.257 --> 00:20:10.218
actually pfn in aptos land

00:20:10.979 --> 00:20:12.319
I think it's people that

00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:15.201
can't find a pfn that is

00:20:15.500 --> 00:20:17.343
open that's unlimited

00:20:18.502 --> 00:20:19.923
and they can easily find a

00:20:19.962 --> 00:20:22.263
vfn and because of

00:20:22.384 --> 00:20:24.305
hysterical raisins so there

00:20:24.345 --> 00:20:25.144
were a couple of times in

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the past weren't there

00:20:26.204 --> 00:20:28.045
where um there were

00:20:28.144 --> 00:20:30.685
specific loads or tests and

00:20:30.705 --> 00:20:32.987
things done mainly on test

00:20:33.047 --> 00:20:33.987
nets and things but also I

00:20:34.007 --> 00:20:34.866
think at least once on

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mainnet that meant you had

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to allow connections in from

00:20:42.838 --> 00:20:44.920
either labs or foundation to the VFN.

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And so maybe people are just

00:20:49.800 --> 00:20:50.780
making hay off the fact

00:20:50.800 --> 00:20:51.861
that a lot of people loosen

00:20:51.901 --> 00:20:55.182
their network policies and

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then haven't retightened them.

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That was the root cause in

00:20:57.982 --> 00:20:59.722
our case is that the

00:20:59.742 --> 00:21:00.982
configuration got loosened

00:21:01.383 --> 00:21:03.903
at some point last year just in the VFN.

00:21:04.564 --> 00:21:06.904
And then when the new box

00:21:06.924 --> 00:21:07.625
was reprovisioned,

00:21:07.664 --> 00:21:09.184
we didn't use the boilerplate,

00:21:10.726 --> 00:21:11.665
the correct boilerplate

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um you know when you have an

00:21:14.330 --> 00:21:15.251
ansible repo and you have

00:21:15.291 --> 00:21:16.712
like four branches and

00:21:17.153 --> 00:21:17.713
they're all called

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something like revised

00:21:19.096 --> 00:21:23.901
network one um uh yeah my

00:21:23.921 --> 00:21:24.942
my ansible has been very

00:21:24.981 --> 00:21:27.344
lazy in terms of uh git um

00:21:27.523 --> 00:21:29.286
hygiene so that's a little

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bit why I commit domain every time

00:21:36.769 --> 00:21:37.950
You know what?

00:21:38.250 --> 00:21:39.191
For software development,

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I'm with you on that.

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Trunk-based development is

00:21:42.595 --> 00:21:43.435
the way forward.

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Trunk development, master race.

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100% with you.

00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:48.480
Another problematic statement.

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That's two today.

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Good one, Frey.

00:21:53.188 --> 00:21:53.327
Hey,

00:21:53.367 --> 00:21:55.008
before you go off on a tangent for an

00:21:55.048 --> 00:22:00.529
hour, I just wanted to say,

00:22:00.950 --> 00:22:03.330
you guys are on your Aptos

00:22:04.290 --> 00:22:09.811
infrastructure using RAID 1?

00:22:09.811 --> 00:22:10.412
I do, yeah.

00:22:11.292 --> 00:22:12.192
Is that MDMA?

00:22:12.292 --> 00:22:14.432
It's MDMA.

00:22:21.673 --> 00:22:22.854
It's MD, it's MD,

00:22:22.933 --> 00:22:24.074
but if you're thinking it's

00:22:24.094 --> 00:22:26.194
controlled by the admin and the ADM,

00:22:26.375 --> 00:22:27.596
is that what you're trying to get to?

00:22:27.615 --> 00:22:27.855
Yeah.

00:22:27.895 --> 00:22:28.215
Yeah.

00:22:28.276 --> 00:22:28.615
Yeah.

00:22:29.557 --> 00:22:30.057
Yeah.

00:22:30.096 --> 00:22:31.457
Yeah.

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Have you guys considered

00:22:32.657 --> 00:22:33.938
like using something else?

00:22:33.998 --> 00:22:34.759
Because you know,

00:22:34.818 --> 00:22:37.559
it's like you can get bit rock on MD,

00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:37.779
right?

00:22:38.721 --> 00:22:39.441
You can't very good.

00:22:40.951 --> 00:22:41.332
I don't know.

00:22:41.633 --> 00:22:42.633
I don't know if it's not very good.

00:22:42.673 --> 00:22:42.873
I don't,

00:22:43.012 --> 00:22:44.473
I don't know if that's a hundred

00:22:44.493 --> 00:22:45.114
percent true statement.

00:22:45.134 --> 00:22:47.035
We have used LLVM only on

00:22:47.154 --> 00:22:47.954
specific things where we've

00:22:47.974 --> 00:22:49.596
had to do like mirrors on that.

00:22:49.635 --> 00:22:50.517
Cause you can do either way

00:22:50.676 --> 00:22:51.217
if you wanted to.

00:22:52.156 --> 00:22:53.518
Cause LLVM also supports mirrors.

00:22:55.138 --> 00:22:55.558
We could do,

00:22:55.659 --> 00:22:57.200
we could do ZFS mirrors if we wanted to,

00:22:57.539 --> 00:22:58.240
but we'll be fine too.

00:22:58.319 --> 00:22:59.079
I think it's fast enough.

00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:00.840
There's not really that much traffic,

00:23:00.881 --> 00:23:01.000
right?

00:23:01.040 --> 00:23:03.442
Well, you're not getting in, in raid one,

00:23:03.461 --> 00:23:04.363
you're not getting any

00:23:05.182 --> 00:23:06.443
performance advantage anyway.

00:23:06.624 --> 00:23:07.683
You should just use ZFS.

00:23:07.703 --> 00:23:07.824
We, we,

00:23:10.546 --> 00:23:10.686
Well,

00:23:10.707 --> 00:23:11.946
there's still a little overhead there

00:23:12.007 --> 00:23:13.127
and you have all that.

00:23:13.929 --> 00:23:15.589
You lose about 20% of capacity,

00:23:15.630 --> 00:23:16.549
but you're not really going

00:23:16.569 --> 00:23:18.711
to sacrifice any drive speed.

00:23:18.731 --> 00:23:20.032
You'll actually increase your read speed.

00:23:20.053 --> 00:23:24.215
But I would just get bigger

00:23:24.236 --> 00:23:25.276
drives and use ZFS.

00:23:25.435 --> 00:23:27.337
It's going to be way better for you.

00:23:27.377 --> 00:23:27.518
Yeah,

00:23:27.557 --> 00:23:29.558
but this kind of drive level

00:23:29.818 --> 00:23:32.000
optimization ignores the

00:23:32.040 --> 00:23:33.821
fact that the slowest part

00:23:33.882 --> 00:23:35.262
of the stack is the

00:23:36.828 --> 00:23:39.549
state machine or the network,

00:23:39.630 --> 00:23:40.270
depending on what's

00:23:40.310 --> 00:23:41.810
currently happening at that point in time,

00:23:41.871 --> 00:23:42.070
right?

00:23:44.071 --> 00:23:46.614
So you can optimize the disk

00:23:46.634 --> 00:23:47.653
and the drive and

00:23:47.673 --> 00:23:49.815
everything as much as you like,

00:23:50.015 --> 00:23:51.875
but you're

00:23:53.354 --> 00:23:54.315
you're doing 18 000

00:23:54.315 --> 00:23:56.656
transactions a second using

00:23:56.958 --> 00:23:57.897
a cryptographic hash

00:23:57.938 --> 00:24:00.340
function based state

00:24:00.381 --> 00:24:02.563
machine consensus stack

00:24:03.364 --> 00:24:04.364
like you're approaching

00:24:04.505 --> 00:24:06.686
physical limits on both

00:24:06.787 --> 00:24:07.627
network and the

00:24:07.667 --> 00:24:09.108
cryptography that's that's

00:24:09.189 --> 00:24:10.589
the limit it's not it's not

00:24:10.650 --> 00:24:11.510
like how much you can write

00:24:11.530 --> 00:24:13.353
to disk because you know no

00:24:13.373 --> 00:24:15.535
no I'm just I'm just saying

00:24:15.555 --> 00:24:17.156
there's probably better options for your

00:24:18.273 --> 00:24:19.934
for your storage.

00:24:19.974 --> 00:24:21.015
Because if you're saying

00:24:21.055 --> 00:24:21.935
you're butting up against

00:24:21.976 --> 00:24:23.155
the storage problem now,

00:24:23.236 --> 00:24:24.336
you're running RAID 1,

00:24:24.336 --> 00:24:25.037
you can't add to it.

00:24:25.217 --> 00:24:26.196
If you were running ZFS,

00:24:26.217 --> 00:24:26.978
you could just add another

00:24:26.998 --> 00:24:28.038
Stripe mirror right next to it,

00:24:28.478 --> 00:24:29.137
and you're good for another

00:24:29.157 --> 00:24:30.858
year without having to

00:24:30.939 --> 00:24:31.759
rebuild your thing that

00:24:31.779 --> 00:24:32.519
you're complaining about.

00:24:32.539 --> 00:24:33.920
Yeah, that's pretty true.

00:24:34.201 --> 00:24:34.961
Yeah, OK, fair enough.

00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:37.001
Yeah, but honestly, to be honest,

00:24:37.021 --> 00:24:38.102
you could state sync those

00:24:38.142 --> 00:24:39.423
boxes in minutes.

00:24:39.462 --> 00:24:41.564
So it's really not that big of a deal.

00:24:41.584 --> 00:24:43.903
I mean, you get pulled out of consensus.

00:24:43.924 --> 00:24:44.865
Sounded like a big deal.

00:24:47.095 --> 00:24:48.576
Since we've been talking

00:24:48.596 --> 00:24:49.797
about it for nine episodes, yeah,

00:24:49.836 --> 00:24:50.738
I would agree with you that

00:24:50.798 --> 00:24:51.778
it does sound like a big deal,

00:24:51.798 --> 00:24:52.519
but I don't think it's a big deal.

00:24:52.538 --> 00:24:53.298
I've heard about this

00:24:53.558 --> 00:24:55.340
storage problem a lot.

00:24:55.901 --> 00:24:57.001
It's just a different story

00:24:57.021 --> 00:24:58.102
from one of those episodes.

00:24:58.122 --> 00:25:00.104
Episode 32, we're going to talk about.

00:25:01.044 --> 00:25:01.284
Yeah,

00:25:01.503 --> 00:25:03.246
it's not so much that it's actually

00:25:03.286 --> 00:25:06.007
that egregious a problem to state sync,

00:25:06.067 --> 00:25:06.988
like Serpent's saying,

00:25:07.048 --> 00:25:08.169
but it's more that the...

00:25:12.961 --> 00:25:14.103
way the incentive model

00:25:14.143 --> 00:25:15.723
works in Aptos is that

00:25:15.763 --> 00:25:18.946
you're penalized strongly for being down,

00:25:19.186 --> 00:25:19.646
number one.

00:25:20.928 --> 00:25:22.388
In terms of just like you're

00:25:22.449 --> 00:25:23.589
penalized every second you're down,

00:25:24.230 --> 00:25:26.011
albeit a small amount.

00:25:27.272 --> 00:25:30.694
And the second thing is that, crucially,

00:25:31.256 --> 00:25:32.596
is that it's very visible

00:25:32.636 --> 00:25:33.718
when you're down.

00:25:33.857 --> 00:25:36.420
It's very visible to the delegator.

00:25:38.300 --> 00:25:40.122
And you just don't want to be.

00:25:40.522 --> 00:25:41.222
It's like anything else.

00:25:42.901 --> 00:25:43.520
If somebody,

00:25:43.560 --> 00:25:44.922
if you've got a nominal three

00:25:44.961 --> 00:25:45.801
nines contract,

00:25:45.882 --> 00:25:46.622
that's eight hours of

00:25:46.662 --> 00:25:47.521
downtime in the year.

00:25:47.561 --> 00:25:47.741
Right.

00:25:48.221 --> 00:25:50.823
Even if state sync is quick, uh,

00:25:51.083 --> 00:25:52.462
you're likely to get kicked

00:25:52.482 --> 00:25:53.223
from consensus,

00:25:53.304 --> 00:25:54.443
which means a 10 minute

00:25:54.463 --> 00:25:55.624
cool down at a minimum.

00:25:56.403 --> 00:25:57.285
So now you're talking like,

00:25:57.305 --> 00:25:58.944
by the time you're done, you're fiddling,

00:25:58.984 --> 00:26:02.086
that's an hour, you know, it adds up.

00:26:02.145 --> 00:26:03.526
You don't wanna do it too often.

00:26:05.066 --> 00:26:06.406
Would be imagine if you had

00:26:07.007 --> 00:26:07.987
this little bit ZFS,

00:26:08.027 --> 00:26:09.146
just stick another mirrored

00:26:09.166 --> 00:26:09.988
stripe right next to it.

00:26:10.087 --> 00:26:11.028
You're good to go baby.

00:26:11.901 --> 00:26:12.340
Sure,

00:26:12.381 --> 00:26:14.801
but the time it would take to get all

00:26:14.821 --> 00:26:16.521
that shit set up would be

00:26:16.602 --> 00:26:19.363
the time I need to read the

00:26:20.762 --> 00:26:22.542
at least 20 papers on my

00:26:22.583 --> 00:26:25.124
desk that I currently need

00:26:25.144 --> 00:26:25.584
to get through.

00:26:26.784 --> 00:26:28.144
Literally two commands.

00:26:28.523 --> 00:26:29.384
You come see Uncle Null,

00:26:29.404 --> 00:26:30.005
I'll get you sorted.

00:26:30.365 --> 00:26:30.565
Yeah,

00:26:30.605 --> 00:26:32.444
you got to have something to

00:26:32.464 --> 00:26:33.384
recommend there, but yeah.

00:26:34.066 --> 00:26:35.685
Yeah, well, a bit more than that.

00:26:35.705 --> 00:26:37.826
But also it has to be on a,

00:26:37.986 --> 00:26:39.326
you got to configure on a brand new box,

00:26:39.406 --> 00:26:39.626
right?

00:26:39.727 --> 00:26:40.807
So at this point we're stuffed.

00:26:42.096 --> 00:26:42.616
Yeah, actually,

00:26:42.636 --> 00:26:43.857
I was just looking at

00:26:43.958 --> 00:26:44.759
rewards performance on

00:26:44.818 --> 00:26:45.420
Aptos because you were

00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:46.461
talking about rewards performance.

00:26:46.740 --> 00:26:48.343
And for some reason, we're not at 100%.

00:26:48.383 --> 00:26:49.683
And I'm really kind of

00:26:49.703 --> 00:26:50.644
fucking annoyed about that.

00:26:51.405 --> 00:26:51.605
We're at 99.98.

00:26:51.646 --> 00:26:52.047
Schultz, you're at 99.96.

00:26:52.086 --> 00:26:52.207
Is it?

00:26:52.227 --> 00:26:52.207
99.92.

00:26:52.247 --> 00:26:52.627
PolkaChute, 99.96.

00:26:53.509 --> 00:26:54.108
It's all time, right?

00:27:01.778 --> 00:27:01.938
No,

00:27:01.998 --> 00:27:04.339
this is just in the last... I think

00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:05.161
they do it based off the

00:27:05.260 --> 00:27:09.484
last X number of epics, I think.

00:27:09.865 --> 00:27:12.106
Did you have a bad pair at some point?

00:27:12.346 --> 00:27:14.588
There was some bitching recently.

00:27:14.608 --> 00:27:15.410
Yeah, I did see that.

00:27:15.450 --> 00:27:16.109
Actually,

00:27:16.711 --> 00:27:17.691
all these numbers are actually

00:27:17.731 --> 00:27:19.413
pretty shit, except for Stakely,

00:27:19.472 --> 00:27:22.516
who we work with, which is still at 100%,

00:27:22.516 --> 00:27:23.435
or Stake and Cabin, I guess.

00:27:25.657 --> 00:27:26.259
Yeah, it's weird.

00:27:26.638 --> 00:27:26.999
That's weird.

00:27:27.038 --> 00:27:28.299
Actually, these numbers are not great.

00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:28.820
I wonder why.

00:27:28.840 --> 00:27:29.461
I wonder if that's...

00:27:30.595 --> 00:27:31.095
I don't even,

00:27:31.134 --> 00:27:32.276
I haven't seen any failures or anything,

00:27:32.296 --> 00:27:33.116
so I'm not sure why that is.

00:27:34.497 --> 00:27:34.998
Yeah, I don't know.

00:27:35.258 --> 00:27:36.838
I guess it depends how far back it goes.

00:27:36.919 --> 00:27:37.759
It looked like there were

00:27:37.778 --> 00:27:38.960
some peering issues maybe

00:27:39.019 --> 00:27:43.982
like at some point, but not, wait,

00:27:44.262 --> 00:27:46.305
inbound, not, do I mean inbound,

00:27:46.325 --> 00:27:46.904
not outbound?

00:27:46.964 --> 00:27:48.326
I think I mean inbound, not outbound.

00:27:49.185 --> 00:27:50.227
Like the problem was at their end.

00:27:51.288 --> 00:27:51.567
That one.

00:27:54.489 --> 00:27:55.329
All right.

00:27:55.789 --> 00:27:58.211
So I'm putting a three episode ban on,

00:27:59.260 --> 00:28:00.000
I'm talking about

00:28:00.662 --> 00:28:01.781
disc-related issues

00:28:01.843 --> 00:28:02.603
associated with Aptos.

00:28:03.063 --> 00:28:03.983
It's fucking three episodes.

00:28:04.844 --> 00:28:07.266
Have you seen the film The Creator?

00:28:08.546 --> 00:28:08.686
No.

00:28:09.467 --> 00:28:10.347
It's quite good.

00:28:10.387 --> 00:28:10.907
You should watch it.

00:28:12.788 --> 00:28:15.671
It's by... I want to say his

00:28:15.691 --> 00:28:16.671
name's Gareth Edwards.

00:28:17.231 --> 00:28:18.132
He's the guy that did

00:28:19.413 --> 00:28:22.094
that... What's it called?

00:28:22.134 --> 00:28:22.595
Monsters?

00:28:23.035 --> 00:28:23.694
The name of the film?

00:28:23.976 --> 00:28:26.037
Good soundtrack on that episode.

00:28:26.981 --> 00:28:28.583
And which was apparently made,

00:28:28.623 --> 00:28:29.805
I didn't realize this cause it's,

00:28:30.204 --> 00:28:31.267
it looks pretty good, but you know,

00:28:31.287 --> 00:28:33.609
that film was made for like $0.

00:28:33.609 --> 00:28:35.111
Like they literally went on

00:28:35.151 --> 00:28:36.393
a road trip and made that film.

00:28:36.413 --> 00:28:37.253
I did the filming.

00:28:38.655 --> 00:28:39.676
Uh, I think he did all this,

00:28:39.957 --> 00:28:41.058
all the effects himself.

00:28:41.836 --> 00:28:42.977
with like hand puppets and shit.

00:28:43.798 --> 00:28:44.397
Well, I guess so.

00:28:44.478 --> 00:28:46.878
I mean, well, CG, but yeah.

00:28:47.199 --> 00:28:48.680
That's a, that's John.

00:28:49.299 --> 00:28:49.700
Who wrote that?

00:28:49.900 --> 00:28:51.060
That's a, that's a great soundtrack.

00:28:51.080 --> 00:28:52.500
That's fucking hell.

00:28:52.540 --> 00:28:53.741
I'm thinking about John Hopkins, right?

00:28:54.241 --> 00:28:55.502
John Hopkins wrote that.

00:28:55.682 --> 00:28:56.002
Is it?

00:28:56.682 --> 00:28:57.063
I think so.

00:28:57.282 --> 00:28:57.442
Yeah.

00:28:57.482 --> 00:28:58.084
I think he wrote that.

00:28:58.223 --> 00:28:58.604
He wrote that.

00:28:58.763 --> 00:28:59.963
He wrote the soundtrack for monsters.

00:29:01.184 --> 00:29:01.384
Okay.

00:29:01.404 --> 00:29:03.546
I mean that I'm a big John, John Hopkins.

00:29:04.346 --> 00:29:04.786
That guy's awesome.

00:29:04.806 --> 00:29:05.467
You are correct.

00:29:06.287 --> 00:29:06.507
Is it?

00:29:06.527 --> 00:29:06.747
Yeah.

00:29:06.787 --> 00:29:07.468
Yeah.

00:29:07.607 --> 00:29:08.167
Yeah.

00:29:08.288 --> 00:29:08.807
Yeah.

00:29:09.268 --> 00:29:09.488
Yeah.

00:29:09.508 --> 00:29:09.848
Great.

00:29:10.048 --> 00:29:10.909
Do you know Max Cooper?

00:29:12.375 --> 00:29:13.276
uh no is that like his

00:29:13.477 --> 00:29:16.097
butler or something uh like

00:29:17.117 --> 00:29:19.558
hot take max cooper is the

00:29:19.618 --> 00:29:23.539
best of john hopkins um but

00:29:23.579 --> 00:29:24.540
if you're into john hopkins

00:29:24.560 --> 00:29:25.701
you're like you almost

00:29:25.820 --> 00:29:27.561
certainly like max cooper

00:29:28.501 --> 00:29:30.442
um check out track from as

00:29:30.583 --> 00:29:31.702
out the albums are a few

00:29:31.742 --> 00:29:33.023
years old now actually but

00:29:33.263 --> 00:29:34.183
um he's got some new stuff

00:29:34.263 --> 00:29:35.404
out um just check out it's

00:29:35.424 --> 00:29:36.744
really good as well but

00:29:36.805 --> 00:29:37.464
like check out something

00:29:37.484 --> 00:29:38.486
like uh like if I just

00:29:38.506 --> 00:29:39.346
wanted to give you like one

00:29:39.385 --> 00:29:40.886
track to be like guaranteed

00:29:42.030 --> 00:29:44.432
just stone cold killer track.

00:29:44.452 --> 00:29:45.732
You're going to be like, fuck it.

00:29:46.173 --> 00:29:46.653
Let's go.

00:29:47.654 --> 00:29:50.455
Perpetual motion by Max Cooper.

00:29:51.356 --> 00:29:52.356
Absolute banger.

00:29:52.817 --> 00:29:53.018
Yeah.

00:29:53.538 --> 00:29:54.278
Yeah.

00:29:54.858 --> 00:29:55.880
Absolute rager.

00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:58.101
Some of those are like, like Hopkins,

00:29:58.421 --> 00:29:59.642
like I think he was my

00:29:59.682 --> 00:30:01.343
intro to like that whole genre.

00:30:01.603 --> 00:30:02.463
I think it was opalescent.

00:30:02.864 --> 00:30:04.025
Is that what that album is called?

00:30:04.065 --> 00:30:04.904
I forget what that one he

00:30:04.924 --> 00:30:07.487
did back in the early two

00:30:07.507 --> 00:30:08.126
thousands or something.

00:30:08.547 --> 00:30:09.907
I think it was now like open

00:30:09.928 --> 00:30:10.989
my eyes to like a ton of shit.

00:30:12.423 --> 00:30:13.284
John Hopkins is very good

00:30:13.744 --> 00:30:18.028
I'm just a big fan of John

00:30:18.067 --> 00:30:20.470
Hopkins I kind of went some

00:30:20.490 --> 00:30:21.269
of the other things and

00:30:21.309 --> 00:30:22.411
then Max Cooper and then

00:30:23.071 --> 00:30:24.252
John Hopkins I guess as an

00:30:24.333 --> 00:30:25.634
influence so going back the

00:30:25.653 --> 00:30:27.474
other way I'm kind of like

00:30:27.694 --> 00:30:29.175
yeah I like John Hopkins

00:30:29.257 --> 00:30:33.079
and yeah it's good let's

00:30:33.099 --> 00:30:35.981
see Hopkins born in 79

00:30:35.981 --> 00:30:36.761
budget was 500k for

00:30:36.801 --> 00:30:38.804
monsters and I guess that's

00:30:38.844 --> 00:30:39.865
on the watch list today now

00:30:41.233 --> 00:30:42.454
I remember that movie being pretty good,

00:30:42.494 --> 00:30:43.056
actually.

00:30:44.396 --> 00:30:45.176
It wasn't bad, right?

00:30:45.317 --> 00:30:46.738
I thought it was actually pretty decent.

00:30:47.078 --> 00:30:48.138
Kind of cheesy at the end.

00:30:49.339 --> 00:30:51.582
Yeah, I mean, you know,

00:30:51.662 --> 00:30:53.423
it was made out of shoestring,

00:30:53.502 --> 00:30:57.866
and then his next film was Rogue One,

00:30:58.086 --> 00:30:58.366
I think.

00:31:00.689 --> 00:31:01.249
Rogue One?

00:31:01.869 --> 00:31:02.150
Yeah.

00:31:02.930 --> 00:31:03.651
Like, pretty big.

00:31:03.911 --> 00:31:04.672
The Star Wars movie?

00:31:04.991 --> 00:31:06.212
Yeah, pretty big jump up, yeah.

00:31:06.732 --> 00:31:07.473
I think it literally did...

00:31:09.124 --> 00:31:10.766
I feel like I've not imagined that.

00:31:10.826 --> 00:31:13.508
It's like Monsters and Rogue One.

00:31:14.749 --> 00:31:15.809
That seems like a pretty big jump.

00:31:16.869 --> 00:31:19.732
Yeah, I don't know if it's up, though.

00:31:20.153 --> 00:31:21.074
Rogue One's pretty... No,

00:31:21.114 --> 00:31:22.255
Rogue One was pretty easy.

00:31:22.474 --> 00:31:24.997
Nah, it's fucking shit.

00:31:25.037 --> 00:31:25.457
No!

00:31:25.856 --> 00:31:27.178
Oh, Godzilla.

00:31:27.238 --> 00:31:28.318
He did fucking Godzilla.

00:31:28.819 --> 00:31:31.902
Better than the... Better than the 789,

00:31:31.902 --> 00:31:32.603
right?

00:31:35.424 --> 00:31:36.184
Better than... Do you know

00:31:36.204 --> 00:31:37.625
about Star Wars Rogue One?

00:31:38.067 --> 00:31:38.207
Yeah.

00:31:39.171 --> 00:31:40.011
unquestionably better than

00:31:40.051 --> 00:31:40.873
seven eight and nine for

00:31:40.913 --> 00:31:42.194
sure what what is there

00:31:42.214 --> 00:31:43.936
another rogue one no no

00:31:43.977 --> 00:31:45.097
real quick that's the one

00:31:45.318 --> 00:31:48.082
yeah whoa I just thought

00:31:48.102 --> 00:31:48.843
there might have been some

00:31:48.903 --> 00:31:50.944
kind of fucking weird shit

00:31:50.964 --> 00:31:51.685
you were talking about

00:31:52.267 --> 00:31:54.048
other than the weird casino

00:31:54.088 --> 00:31:55.711
sequence eight was great

00:31:55.750 --> 00:31:56.311
what the fuck are you

00:31:56.332 --> 00:31:57.752
talking about I couldn't

00:31:57.772 --> 00:31:58.894
even tell you what the fuck eight was

00:31:59.958 --> 00:32:01.239
Eight was the one where it

00:32:01.259 --> 00:32:03.019
had the bombing scene where it's like the,

00:32:03.138 --> 00:32:04.539
it's like the Memphis charger.

00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.220
It's got the straight

00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:07.881
reference to like the Memphis bell.

00:32:07.921 --> 00:32:10.801
And it has the, the final fight where it,

00:32:10.862 --> 00:32:11.061
you know,

00:32:11.082 --> 00:32:12.221
it's like in the throne room and

00:32:12.261 --> 00:32:12.863
it's like a direct

00:32:12.903 --> 00:32:14.643
reference to Kira Kurosawa.

00:32:14.682 --> 00:32:15.903
It's like the whole round thing.

00:32:16.584 --> 00:32:17.523
And then there's the,

00:32:17.544 --> 00:32:18.924
the bill on the planet with the red,

00:32:19.105 --> 00:32:19.345
you know,

00:32:19.384 --> 00:32:20.786
the white salt and then the red

00:32:20.826 --> 00:32:21.266
underneath.

00:32:22.026 --> 00:32:23.246
No, you need to stand down.

00:32:23.886 --> 00:32:26.327
You need to stand down.

00:32:26.347 --> 00:32:26.867
Here's the thing.

00:32:28.075 --> 00:32:29.214
As an individual movie...

00:32:29.234 --> 00:32:30.336
Schultz has it unmuted for

00:32:30.496 --> 00:32:31.215
three episodes.

00:32:31.276 --> 00:32:32.176
As soon as we start shitting

00:32:32.217 --> 00:32:33.176
on Star Wars movies, he's like,

00:32:33.196 --> 00:32:37.018
hold the fucking phone.

00:32:37.097 --> 00:32:39.838
I only ever watched... I'm

00:32:39.858 --> 00:32:42.500
defending A. I'm defending

00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:47.582
A. As an individual movie, A is fine.

00:32:48.221 --> 00:32:49.242
There's absolute parts you

00:32:49.262 --> 00:32:49.903
can enjoy about it.

00:32:50.623 --> 00:32:52.463
As a portion of a trilogy,

00:32:52.544 --> 00:32:53.663
or as a portion of Star

00:32:53.683 --> 00:32:54.365
Wars in general...

00:32:55.378 --> 00:32:57.200
it's it's filthy absolutely

00:32:57.220 --> 00:32:58.401
filthy which one is eight

00:32:58.520 --> 00:33:01.423
oh that's last jedi yeah

00:33:01.762 --> 00:33:02.363
that's the one where

00:33:02.383 --> 00:33:03.403
basically the entire thing

00:33:03.443 --> 00:33:05.464
is like two ships are

00:33:05.525 --> 00:33:06.506
slowly trailing each other

00:33:06.526 --> 00:33:08.146
through space for like

00:33:08.686 --> 00:33:09.887
three and a half hours and

00:33:10.327 --> 00:33:11.048
they're like well we can't

00:33:11.068 --> 00:33:12.108
speed up because we can't

00:33:12.128 --> 00:33:13.589
speed up so we just got to

00:33:13.609 --> 00:33:14.691
keep going real slow right

00:33:14.711 --> 00:33:16.632
behind them is that the one

00:33:16.652 --> 00:33:17.452
where luke like lives on

00:33:17.472 --> 00:33:18.232
the top of a mountain that

00:33:18.272 --> 00:33:19.213
nobody could possibly live on

00:33:19.539 --> 00:33:21.020
I mean, it is star Wars.

00:33:21.080 --> 00:33:21.701
It's not hard.

00:33:21.760 --> 00:33:22.942
Sci-fi lives on a rock.

00:33:23.602 --> 00:33:23.862
Perhaps,

00:33:23.903 --> 00:33:25.442
perhaps I suspend more disbelief

00:33:25.462 --> 00:33:26.544
when I watch star Wars.

00:33:26.703 --> 00:33:27.183
I'm just like,

00:33:28.105 --> 00:33:29.546
for reasons that ship can't

00:33:29.586 --> 00:33:31.227
go any faster for the same

00:33:31.307 --> 00:33:33.367
reasons that literally X

00:33:33.428 --> 00:33:36.048
wings fight in space, like dog fighting.

00:33:37.109 --> 00:33:37.730
What the fuck?

00:33:37.789 --> 00:33:38.631
That's not how,

00:33:38.851 --> 00:33:40.412
that's not how physics works.

00:33:40.971 --> 00:33:42.553
Well, so that that's fine though.

00:33:42.593 --> 00:33:42.752
Right.

00:33:42.772 --> 00:33:43.272
That's what I'm saying.

00:33:43.292 --> 00:33:45.394
Like as an individual movie,

00:33:45.414 --> 00:33:47.576
a is like fine and kind of enjoyable.

00:33:49.383 --> 00:33:50.943
The fact that it goes so

00:33:51.023 --> 00:33:54.026
deep into trying to be edgy

00:33:54.185 --> 00:33:56.807
and unreliable, that just kills me.

00:33:57.087 --> 00:33:59.269
Like, okay, what's his name?

00:33:59.368 --> 00:34:03.612
The former Star Trooper guy

00:34:04.432 --> 00:34:06.614
who was supposed to be Force-sensitive,

00:34:06.834 --> 00:34:07.094
right?

00:34:07.894 --> 00:34:08.175
In 8,

00:34:08.175 --> 00:34:09.155
they decided to just get rid of all

00:34:09.175 --> 00:34:09.436
of that.

00:34:10.016 --> 00:34:10.635
Absolutely not.

00:34:10.936 --> 00:34:11.476
Super dumb.

00:34:11.896 --> 00:34:12.516
Don't accept it.

00:34:12.536 --> 00:34:13.418
It's right out.

00:34:14.539 --> 00:34:15.018
Oh, fair enough.

00:34:16.246 --> 00:34:17.608
Yeah, I mean,

00:34:17.648 --> 00:34:20.429
John Boyega got done incredibly dirty.

00:34:22.070 --> 00:34:23.771
In fact, in those films in general,

00:34:23.791 --> 00:34:26.673
I genuinely thought that

00:34:26.733 --> 00:34:27.813
what was going to happen,

00:34:28.094 --> 00:34:30.516
I genuinely thought that

00:34:30.675 --> 00:34:31.836
Finn was going to turn out

00:34:31.916 --> 00:34:35.378
to be the Jedi in the end.

00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:38.942
Rey would maybe turn to the dark side.

00:34:39.784 --> 00:34:42.365
And I just had a really

00:34:42.485 --> 00:34:43.907
strong chemistry vibe

00:34:43.967 --> 00:34:45.487
between Poe Dameron.

00:34:45.867 --> 00:34:46.228
What's the name?

00:34:46.268 --> 00:34:46.949
Oscar Isaacs.

00:34:47.889 --> 00:34:48.170
All right.

00:34:48.250 --> 00:34:49.291
And John Boyega.

00:34:49.311 --> 00:34:51.331
I was just like, it's like,

00:34:51.532 --> 00:34:54.273
is it going to be is it going to be like,

00:34:54.313 --> 00:34:56.416
you know, a bromance or is it going to be,

00:34:57.416 --> 00:34:59.257
you know, a bromance?

00:35:00.338 --> 00:35:03.601
Is it going to be a bromance?

00:35:04.860 --> 00:35:05.141
Whatever.

00:35:05.181 --> 00:35:05.922
Anyway, that's the thing.

00:35:05.942 --> 00:35:06.902
That's the point, right?

00:35:06.943 --> 00:35:07.043
Yeah.

00:35:08.822 --> 00:35:10.204
Yes, the point is, in VII,

00:35:10.244 --> 00:35:11.184
they did a really good job

00:35:11.224 --> 00:35:11.865
setting up a bunch of

00:35:11.905 --> 00:35:13.086
things that they could have

00:35:13.166 --> 00:35:14.387
gone full throttle on.

00:35:14.648 --> 00:35:15.849
And then VIII, with the new director,

00:35:15.869 --> 00:35:16.730
I can't remember who the director is,

00:35:16.750 --> 00:35:19.672
which I'm ashamed of, was like, nah, guys,

00:35:19.811 --> 00:35:21.172
I've got this great idea.

00:35:21.313 --> 00:35:22.574
Let's ignore all of that.

00:35:23.175 --> 00:35:24.235
That's why I don't like VIII.

00:35:26.737 --> 00:35:29.420
So VII was... Isn't Last

00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.503
Jedi the guy that did the amazing film,

00:35:32.583 --> 00:35:32.902
Moon?

00:35:33.282 --> 00:35:33.903
Isn't it the same guy?

00:35:35.949 --> 00:35:36.811
Well, seven was J.J.

00:35:36.871 --> 00:35:37.471
Abrams, wasn't it?

00:35:38.152 --> 00:35:39.112
Seven was J.J.

00:35:39.193 --> 00:35:40.534
Abrams, so was nine.

00:35:40.815 --> 00:35:41.394
So was nine.

00:35:41.434 --> 00:35:42.315
So who did eight?

00:35:42.836 --> 00:35:44.057
Yeah, Rian Johnson.

00:35:44.077 --> 00:35:45.418
He's the guy that did Moon, isn't he?

00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:46.420
Oh, is it?

00:35:48.461 --> 00:35:49.342
Oh, no, fuck.

00:35:49.382 --> 00:35:51.003
He's the guy that did Brick.

00:35:52.085 --> 00:35:53.425
That is a fucking film.

00:35:53.786 --> 00:35:55.467
That is a fucking film.

00:35:55.688 --> 00:35:56.268
Oh, my God.

00:35:58.351 --> 00:35:59.112
Have you not seen Brick?

00:36:00.887 --> 00:36:02.268
It does not sound familiar.

00:36:02.389 --> 00:36:02.728
Okay.

00:36:02.809 --> 00:36:04.309
So basically it's like, um,

00:36:05.429 --> 00:36:06.909
it's Joseph Gordon Leavitt.

00:36:07.931 --> 00:36:10.070
Uh, he's, he's, uh,

00:36:10.130 --> 00:36:11.972
it's like an American high school in,

00:36:12.311 --> 00:36:12.731
I guess, like,

00:36:13.032 --> 00:36:14.313
I guess it must be must West coast.

00:36:14.353 --> 00:36:15.193
Cause the weather looks good.

00:36:15.713 --> 00:36:17.954
Um, and it's basically like a,

00:36:18.054 --> 00:36:19.934
like it has all of the

00:36:20.155 --> 00:36:22.056
stylistic kind of trope.

00:36:23.195 --> 00:36:24.157
The stuff you recognize from

00:36:24.217 --> 00:36:26.197
like the trope of like film noir and like,

00:36:26.257 --> 00:36:27.577
especially like, you know,

00:36:27.597 --> 00:36:28.797
the Raymond Chandler novels,

00:36:28.858 --> 00:36:30.398
stuff like that, big sleep and all that.

00:36:31.588 --> 00:36:32.989
Um, but it's basically just like,

00:36:33.009 --> 00:36:33.748
there's been a murder at

00:36:33.768 --> 00:36:34.989
the school and he's a

00:36:35.028 --> 00:36:36.389
fucking loner and he's

00:36:36.409 --> 00:36:38.570
going to figure out what happened.

00:36:39.190 --> 00:36:39.670
It's just a,

00:36:40.112 --> 00:36:41.271
it's just one of those really

00:36:41.351 --> 00:36:43.393
good slow burn, like dark.

00:36:44.132 --> 00:36:44.253
Yeah.

00:36:44.273 --> 00:36:45.693
I mean, like it's, it's just a film noir,

00:36:45.733 --> 00:36:46.574
but it's just like happens

00:36:46.594 --> 00:36:48.514
to be this like teenage kid,

00:36:48.735 --> 00:36:49.695
just like trying to work

00:36:49.735 --> 00:36:50.655
out what the fuck happens.

00:36:50.675 --> 00:36:52.277
This person at school, um,

00:36:52.476 --> 00:36:54.536
it's a absolutely cracking film.

00:36:55.338 --> 00:36:55.737
Yeah.

00:36:56.597 --> 00:36:57.478
Justin Gordon Leavitt.

00:36:57.518 --> 00:36:57.719
Really?

00:36:58.583 --> 00:36:59.364
Yeah, it was really good.

00:36:59.585 --> 00:37:02.626
He just like his, his character is like,

00:37:02.666 --> 00:37:04.347
he's an outsider and he's punchable.

00:37:04.367 --> 00:37:04.407
He,

00:37:04.827 --> 00:37:06.849
but he's just will walk up to people

00:37:06.929 --> 00:37:07.590
and he's just like,

00:37:07.909 --> 00:37:09.130
I'm going to just ask you a question.

00:37:09.150 --> 00:37:10.291
And then they punch him in

00:37:10.331 --> 00:37:12.753
the face and he's like, well, okay.

00:37:13.813 --> 00:37:14.114
What's that?

00:37:14.193 --> 00:37:14.474
What's that?

00:37:14.514 --> 00:37:15.153
Jeff Ross joke.

00:37:16.014 --> 00:37:17.255
Joseph Gordon Levitt,

00:37:17.396 --> 00:37:19.077
the most three most boring

00:37:19.117 --> 00:37:21.637
words behind gluten-free cracker.

00:37:25.755 --> 00:37:26.916
What movie is he... I can't

00:37:26.936 --> 00:37:27.635
think of a single movie

00:37:27.835 --> 00:37:30.458
that he's made that I can... Spider-Man.

00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:31.780
Is that the guy?

00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:33.280
Is that the Spider-Man guy?

00:37:33.721 --> 00:37:36.302
No, I don't think he was Spider-Man.

00:37:36.402 --> 00:37:37.463
Third Rock from the Sun?

00:37:37.503 --> 00:37:38.465
I enjoyed him in that.

00:37:40.666 --> 00:37:41.146
That's right.

00:37:41.186 --> 00:37:44.110
He was also in... He was

00:37:44.190 --> 00:37:45.110
also in Inception.

00:37:45.791 --> 00:37:49.253
And what's the one with Bruce Willis too?

00:37:50.054 --> 00:37:50.954
He was in Glass Onion.

00:37:51.076 --> 00:37:51.416
That's right.

00:37:51.909 --> 00:37:54.170
He was also in Looper.

00:37:54.271 --> 00:37:57.152
Looper, that's the one.

00:37:57.333 --> 00:37:58.414
That's also Rian Johnson.

00:38:00.476 --> 00:38:01.137
What, Looper is?

00:38:01.376 --> 00:38:02.518
Yeah, the guy who did Brick.

00:38:03.478 --> 00:38:04.800
Looper was his second film, I think.

00:38:04.820 --> 00:38:06.820
Who also did Episode 8,

00:38:06.820 --> 00:38:07.302
is what you're saying.

00:38:08.021 --> 00:38:08.141
Yeah.

00:38:08.822 --> 00:38:09.804
So it's been a rocky road,

00:38:09.824 --> 00:38:12.065
is what you're saying.

00:38:12.405 --> 00:38:14.586
Yeah, but he has some good films, right?

00:38:15.088 --> 00:38:17.210
I would say Brick, Looper, Star Wars.

00:38:18.385 --> 00:38:21.086
He has some dodgy ones, like Nights Out.

00:38:21.106 --> 00:38:22.447
I'm not giving you shit

00:38:22.668 --> 00:38:23.467
about shitting on JGL.

00:38:23.487 --> 00:38:27.588
Look at the JGL defenders.

00:38:28.449 --> 00:38:28.670
Yeah.

00:38:29.469 --> 00:38:32.170
I'm now on JGL's filmography

00:38:32.210 --> 00:38:35.271
because there's got to

00:38:35.291 --> 00:38:36.871
be... Who's in Beethoven?

00:38:36.891 --> 00:38:37.813
I want to leave this up for

00:38:38.952 --> 00:38:41.574
this Rama quote for all future episodes.

00:38:42.094 --> 00:38:42.934
Of course he was in 10

00:38:42.934 --> 00:38:43.875
Things I Hate About You.

00:38:45.822 --> 00:38:46.903
Oh, man.

00:38:47.023 --> 00:38:48.123
He was in The Dark Knight.

00:38:48.164 --> 00:38:51.326
He was in The Dark Knight.

00:38:52.047 --> 00:38:52.706
Yeah, he was.

00:38:52.726 --> 00:38:55.268
I was about to say, oh, yeah,

00:38:55.307 --> 00:38:56.028
he was in Brick.

00:38:56.088 --> 00:38:56.909
And then I realized that's

00:38:56.929 --> 00:38:58.190
literally what I've just been sharing.

00:38:58.210 --> 00:38:59.351
That's what we've been talking about.

00:39:01.192 --> 00:39:02.012
He's a good actor.

00:39:02.152 --> 00:39:02.853
He is a good actor.

00:39:02.873 --> 00:39:03.932
I don't have to like him.

00:39:05.273 --> 00:39:06.994
He's been in some shit films as well,

00:39:07.034 --> 00:39:07.954
though, mind you.

00:39:08.275 --> 00:39:08.735
There's some...

00:39:10.103 --> 00:39:11.804
premium rush have you seen

00:39:11.844 --> 00:39:13.144
fucking premium rush it's

00:39:13.184 --> 00:39:14.626
amazing it's the whole

00:39:14.706 --> 00:39:15.766
concept of the film is it's

00:39:15.847 --> 00:39:17.889
like uh it's just a fixed

00:39:17.929 --> 00:39:20.311
gear um courier in

00:39:20.490 --> 00:39:22.572
manhattan but the oh yeah I

00:39:22.612 --> 00:39:23.793
have seen that yeah it's

00:39:23.813 --> 00:39:24.293
super cool because I

00:39:24.313 --> 00:39:25.114
actually did a lot of his

00:39:25.153 --> 00:39:26.594
practical stunts so it

00:39:26.675 --> 00:39:28.577
genuinely is like really

00:39:28.637 --> 00:39:29.577
quite intense because

00:39:29.597 --> 00:39:30.498
you're like what the hell

00:39:30.898 --> 00:39:31.659
this looks dangerous it's

00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:33.880
like yes because it is hard

00:39:33.900 --> 00:39:36.762
pass um you know you had to

00:39:36.782 --> 00:39:37.784
chicago not manhattan

00:39:39.740 --> 00:39:41.262
Maybe it is Chicago, actually.

00:39:41.742 --> 00:39:42.322
It's not.

00:39:42.342 --> 00:39:43.121
I've just checked.

00:39:43.262 --> 00:39:44.063
It is Manhattan.

00:39:45.202 --> 00:39:49.664
Oh, it's set in... Where was it filmed?

00:39:49.684 --> 00:39:52.405
I thought it was filmed in New York City.

00:39:54.786 --> 00:39:57.148
Gordon Levitt was injured

00:39:57.168 --> 00:39:58.528
during filming when he rode

00:39:58.568 --> 00:40:00.949
into the back of a taxi on a fixed gear.

00:40:02.829 --> 00:40:03.389
Oh, dear.

00:40:05.070 --> 00:40:06.612
If you all had to pick a Star Wars,

00:40:06.931 --> 00:40:07.672
which one would it be?

00:40:08.893 --> 00:40:09.313
Empire.

00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:12.501
Star Wars that you like?

00:40:12.942 --> 00:40:13.762
Just Star Wars.

00:40:13.802 --> 00:40:14.742
If you had to pick a Star

00:40:14.782 --> 00:40:15.403
Wars... Your best.

00:40:15.664 --> 00:40:16.244
The best one.

00:40:16.463 --> 00:40:17.105
Which one?

00:40:17.585 --> 00:40:18.525
What's the favorite?

00:40:18.565 --> 00:40:19.405
Fucking Empire.

00:40:20.626 --> 00:40:22.068
Yeah, of course.

00:40:22.148 --> 00:40:23.347
I'd really go with The Mandalorian.

00:40:23.367 --> 00:40:24.409
I would go with The Mandalorian.

00:40:25.769 --> 00:40:27.490
TV show or the movie?

00:40:28.670 --> 00:40:29.871
Is there a Mandalorian movie?

00:40:30.052 --> 00:40:31.112
I think there's a cartoon movie.

00:40:32.293 --> 00:40:32.934
TV show then.

00:40:33.934 --> 00:40:35.155
And really only the first two seasons.

00:40:35.195 --> 00:40:36.315
The third season was pretty weak.

00:40:38.016 --> 00:40:38.617
Phantom Menace.

00:40:40.382 --> 00:40:40.762
Oh, really?

00:40:40.782 --> 00:40:43.842
Of course not.

00:40:43.983 --> 00:40:47.384
There's something about like

00:40:47.403 --> 00:40:48.623
the Empire Strikes Back was

00:40:48.643 --> 00:40:50.965
when I was in like primary school,

00:40:51.005 --> 00:40:51.344
I think.

00:40:51.744 --> 00:40:55.206
And I used to go like to this department.

00:40:55.646 --> 00:40:56.565
You were younger than that.

00:40:56.666 --> 00:40:57.626
I think I was in primary

00:40:57.666 --> 00:41:00.487
school when that happened.

00:41:00.867 --> 00:41:01.907
No, I used to catch the bus.

00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:04.400
There's a bus stop in the

00:41:04.420 --> 00:41:05.380
middle of our bus routes.

00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:07.601
And we used to always go

00:41:07.661 --> 00:41:09.601
into what was the Maya then

00:41:09.702 --> 00:41:10.742
in my hometown.

00:41:11.282 --> 00:41:12.782
Human memory is so fucking awesome.

00:41:12.842 --> 00:41:14.143
Because you relate this

00:41:14.282 --> 00:41:15.202
Empire Strikes Back to,

00:41:15.402 --> 00:41:16.262
I was on this bus.

00:41:16.543 --> 00:41:17.943
And I know exactly where that bus was.

00:41:19.043 --> 00:41:20.603
Well, in this Maya,

00:41:20.804 --> 00:41:23.724
they had this console set up back,

00:41:24.425 --> 00:41:25.565
I don't know what fucking console,

00:41:25.585 --> 00:41:26.565
some sort of PlayStation

00:41:26.666 --> 00:41:27.565
situation probably.

00:41:27.585 --> 00:41:28.286
Uh-huh.

00:41:29.568 --> 00:41:29.708
Like,

00:41:29.728 --> 00:41:32.369
that's what we'd do in between the buses.

00:41:32.409 --> 00:41:33.329
We had half an hour.

00:41:33.349 --> 00:41:34.911
We'd rip into Meijer and

00:41:34.931 --> 00:41:35.791
then just go and stand

00:41:35.811 --> 00:41:37.172
there and play at this console.

00:41:37.913 --> 00:41:40.635
And they had the Empire Strikes Back.

00:41:40.755 --> 00:41:43.717
You know that part where the

00:41:44.237 --> 00:41:46.559
AT-ATs are wandering around in the snow?

00:41:46.579 --> 00:41:50.280
So, yeah, in the game, you have to go and,

00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.402
like, you know, rope their feet and shit.

00:41:53.163 --> 00:41:53.664
And so...

00:41:54.364 --> 00:41:55.224
yeah man it's just I

00:41:55.485 --> 00:41:56.744
remember that so hard it

00:41:56.764 --> 00:41:58.306
was just a feeling I got

00:41:58.385 --> 00:41:59.346
it's great I love that

00:41:59.405 --> 00:42:00.407
movie and I love that game

00:42:00.706 --> 00:42:03.608
it's good yep yeah to be

00:42:03.628 --> 00:42:04.528
fair that sequence at the

00:42:04.568 --> 00:42:07.170
beginning of empire is

00:42:07.210 --> 00:42:09.130
really good the rest of the

00:42:09.150 --> 00:42:12.532
film is like hey no wait no

00:42:12.572 --> 00:42:14.492
no not at all I learned

00:42:14.512 --> 00:42:15.693
some good life lessons too

00:42:15.753 --> 00:42:17.454
like if I ever find myself

00:42:17.574 --> 00:42:18.394
out in the cold I'm just

00:42:18.414 --> 00:42:20.076
gonna cut open a camel and sleep in it

00:42:22.688 --> 00:42:23.188
You've got to fight a

00:42:23.208 --> 00:42:24.208
kangaroo to the death and

00:42:24.228 --> 00:42:25.309
just fucking cut it open.

00:42:25.889 --> 00:42:27.090
I think the problem is that

00:42:27.210 --> 00:42:30.311
actually every... The

00:42:30.391 --> 00:42:32.273
prequels... The third one

00:42:32.313 --> 00:42:33.653
of the prequels is probably

00:42:33.713 --> 00:42:35.315
the best one of the prequels,

00:42:35.355 --> 00:42:37.536
which is a low bar, granted.

00:42:37.556 --> 00:42:38.996
But it's maybe the most

00:42:39.056 --> 00:42:40.077
interesting out of those three.

00:42:40.137 --> 00:42:41.458
But for the other two series...

00:42:42.286 --> 00:42:43.148
Return of the Jedi is the

00:42:43.188 --> 00:42:44.467
weakest of that trilogy.

00:42:45.208 --> 00:42:46.028
And obviously,

00:42:46.769 --> 00:42:47.449
I literally can't even

00:42:47.469 --> 00:42:48.210
remember what it's called.

00:42:48.269 --> 00:42:50.170
Rise of Skywalker was just a

00:42:50.231 --> 00:42:51.672
fucking waste of time.

00:42:52.012 --> 00:42:55.253
I don't think Return of the Jedi was... Oh,

00:42:55.293 --> 00:42:55.934
Return of the Jedi.

00:42:55.954 --> 00:42:57.436
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:57.456 --> 00:42:58.295
Jedi was the weakest.

00:42:58.376 --> 00:42:59.737
Rise of Skywalker was the weakest.

00:42:59.836 --> 00:43:01.898
But in the prequels, they were all so bad.

00:43:02.277 --> 00:43:03.079
But the third one was

00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:04.159
probably the best because

00:43:04.179 --> 00:43:05.119
it had the most killing.

00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:06.360
And it had that hilarious

00:43:06.380 --> 00:43:06.840
scene where he's like,

00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:08.442
I have the high ground, Anakin.

00:43:08.461 --> 00:43:08.541
Yeah.

00:43:09.614 --> 00:43:11.635
And there's fucking slices of it too.

00:43:11.655 --> 00:43:12.615
It merks him good.

00:43:14.157 --> 00:43:16.998
It's crappy for the memes.

00:43:17.498 --> 00:43:19.199
That was poor staffing, I think.

00:43:20.101 --> 00:43:20.840
I don't know if I would have

00:43:20.860 --> 00:43:21.862
picked either.

00:43:21.882 --> 00:43:23.643
The Execute Order 66, yeah,

00:43:23.682 --> 00:43:24.403
the third one of the

00:43:24.443 --> 00:43:25.664
prequels is definitely the best one.

00:43:25.724 --> 00:43:26.445
It's got all the meme

00:43:26.505 --> 00:43:28.465
moments where you just see

00:43:28.485 --> 00:43:29.887
all the fucking Jedi's

00:43:29.927 --> 00:43:31.668
getting absolutely merked.

00:43:32.429 --> 00:43:34.289
The third one of the prequels,

00:43:34.590 --> 00:43:36.050
do you mean number three?

00:43:36.070 --> 00:43:37.731
Yeah, he does.

00:43:38.172 --> 00:43:38.693
Yeah, right.

00:43:38.713 --> 00:43:38.873
Yeah.

00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:43.320
I like Ewan McGregor.

00:43:43.340 --> 00:43:45.420
I just don't know if I would

00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:48.461
have picked him for early Obi-Wan.

00:43:48.681 --> 00:43:48.961
I don't know.

00:43:49.501 --> 00:43:49.722
I mean,

00:43:49.762 --> 00:43:50.583
those films just shouldn't have

00:43:50.603 --> 00:43:50.943
been made.

00:43:51.862 --> 00:43:52.563
I mean, that's what it is.

00:43:52.583 --> 00:43:53.362
I think Lucas was just

00:43:53.483 --> 00:43:55.324
like... It's amazing when

00:43:55.344 --> 00:43:56.083
he actually gave up the

00:43:56.123 --> 00:43:56.943
reins because I think he

00:43:57.244 --> 00:43:58.545
looked back and said he

00:43:58.664 --> 00:43:59.945
shouldn't be in this

00:44:00.005 --> 00:44:00.824
situation of doing that,

00:44:00.844 --> 00:44:01.505
but he should have gave up

00:44:01.525 --> 00:44:02.445
those reins way earlier

00:44:02.485 --> 00:44:03.865
than that because that

00:44:03.885 --> 00:44:04.666
whole thing with like...

00:44:05.126 --> 00:44:06.266
Have you ever watched the

00:44:06.346 --> 00:44:06.967
making of those?

00:44:07.047 --> 00:44:07.987
Oh my God, it's embarrassing.

00:44:09.496 --> 00:44:09.836
Well, yeah,

00:44:09.876 --> 00:44:11.237
that's the good bit in the

00:44:11.277 --> 00:44:12.199
original trilogy.

00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:13.820
The reason why it works so

00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:14.681
well is because I guess

00:44:14.740 --> 00:44:18.103
like his wife had a very strong, like, no,

00:44:18.123 --> 00:44:19.724
we're not doing that type of thing.

00:44:20.246 --> 00:44:20.806
And I think they got

00:44:20.826 --> 00:44:22.307
divorced and for them for the prequels,

00:44:22.367 --> 00:44:23.708
he had like no one to rein him in.

00:44:23.748 --> 00:44:25.269
And he was just like, here we go.

00:44:25.289 --> 00:44:26.510
It's amazing.

00:44:26.530 --> 00:44:28.132
Like how, how human those things are.

00:44:28.231 --> 00:44:28.413
Right.

00:44:28.432 --> 00:44:28.552
Like,

00:44:29.416 --> 00:44:32.117
like this huge massive thing

00:44:32.137 --> 00:44:33.199
and like all these people

00:44:33.278 --> 00:44:34.378
and like four billion

00:44:34.418 --> 00:44:35.739
dollar movie structure and

00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:37.021
this like just somebody's

00:44:37.260 --> 00:44:38.380
like his wife comes in like

00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:39.601
that's fucking dumb like

00:44:39.722 --> 00:44:41.163
like who has the balls to

00:44:41.182 --> 00:44:42.382
tell the little george

00:44:42.422 --> 00:44:43.963
lucas dude like jar jar

00:44:43.983 --> 00:44:44.923
should not walk like this

00:44:45.164 --> 00:44:45.985
and he looks like a fucking

00:44:46.025 --> 00:44:46.925
idiot and he talks like a

00:44:46.965 --> 00:44:48.085
fucking idiot it should not

00:44:48.146 --> 00:44:49.367
absolutely it should not

00:44:49.407 --> 00:44:50.626
happen like nobody has the

00:44:50.726 --> 00:44:51.668
nuts to actually go be like

00:44:51.947 --> 00:44:53.708
like george is a fucking

00:44:53.748 --> 00:44:55.489
yeah fuck it up but his

00:44:55.528 --> 00:44:57.230
wife his wife gets home is

00:44:57.250 --> 00:44:58.550
like what the fuck are you doing

00:45:03.253 --> 00:45:06.494
you know the the the sith uh

00:45:06.614 --> 00:45:07.793
what's the that you know

00:45:07.815 --> 00:45:09.594
the meme where it darth

00:45:09.635 --> 00:45:12.755
maul another shoes you know

00:45:12.775 --> 00:45:13.815
they talk about there's

00:45:13.835 --> 00:45:14.956
there's another set that

00:45:14.996 --> 00:45:16.416
like in the the whole point

00:45:16.456 --> 00:45:17.177
is they're waiting for the

00:45:17.197 --> 00:45:19.318
other sith to be revealed

00:45:20.476 --> 00:45:22.557
And there was the internet

00:45:22.577 --> 00:45:23.418
joke that it was actually

00:45:23.438 --> 00:45:24.438
Jar Jar because he

00:45:24.518 --> 00:45:26.340
consistently advances the

00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:28.021
plot by working for the bad

00:45:28.041 --> 00:45:29.362
guys but looking all clumsy.

00:45:29.983 --> 00:45:32.644
And it was like the Darth Jar Jar meme.

00:45:32.684 --> 00:45:34.306
That was the best thing about the prequels,

00:45:34.367 --> 00:45:34.726
actually.

00:45:35.927 --> 00:45:38.050
I really enjoyed that fan theory.

00:45:39.170 --> 00:45:41.371
I think that the prequels

00:45:41.411 --> 00:45:41.913
would have been a

00:45:41.992 --> 00:45:45.956
completely different fucking vibe.

00:45:46.675 --> 00:45:49.498
I reckon you would have loved them if...

00:45:50.626 --> 00:45:53.030
Samuel Jackson was Obi-Wan

00:45:54.012 --> 00:45:56.416
and it was in the style of Training Day.

00:46:00.938 --> 00:46:03.139
If this was a completely different movie,

00:46:03.340 --> 00:46:04.420
you would have loved it.

00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.041
If you had a different world,

00:46:07.121 --> 00:46:09.402
different setting, different characters,

00:46:09.822 --> 00:46:11.523
different writer, director.

00:46:11.704 --> 00:46:12.565
Same movie.

00:46:13.465 --> 00:46:15.465
Same movie.

00:46:15.545 --> 00:46:16.347
I mean,

00:46:16.367 --> 00:46:20.068
what I really mean is the Shaft

00:46:20.108 --> 00:46:21.969
reboot was quite good and I enjoyed it.

00:46:22.090 --> 00:46:23.210
But wouldn't it have been

00:46:23.291 --> 00:46:25.291
great if the prequels were also good?

00:46:27.673 --> 00:46:29.554
That's basically what you just said.

00:46:29.574 --> 00:46:30.675
Shaft 2000.

00:46:31.436 --> 00:46:31.655
What?

00:46:34.356 --> 00:46:34.556
What?

00:46:35.097 --> 00:46:35.657
You don't think the

00:46:35.717 --> 00:46:40.581
original... What's your two

00:46:40.621 --> 00:46:41.420
remakes of Shaft?

00:46:43.802 --> 00:46:44.322
He locked up.

00:46:44.442 --> 00:46:45.202
And he's gone.

00:46:45.623 --> 00:46:46.244
Gotta reboot him.

00:46:47.103 --> 00:46:49.385
What the hell happened?

00:46:49.485 --> 00:46:50.365
Just reboot yourself.

00:46:50.585 --> 00:46:51.347
This is what happens when

00:46:51.367 --> 00:46:52.768
you don't like the original show.

00:46:52.827 --> 00:46:54.608
Not one of those cloud provision nulls.

00:46:54.668 --> 00:46:56.050
If we used a cloud provision

00:46:56.070 --> 00:46:57.791
virtualized null, he'd stay up.

00:46:57.851 --> 00:47:00.253
We'd get like five nines of uptime.

00:47:00.693 --> 00:47:00.972
Instead,

00:47:01.012 --> 00:47:03.074
we're using this boutique null provider,

00:47:03.735 --> 00:47:05.215
and he just keeps

00:47:05.255 --> 00:47:06.717
disappearing from the stream.

00:47:07.117 --> 00:47:07.677
That's what happens.

00:47:07.697 --> 00:47:09.099
They just keep replugging in,

00:47:09.659 --> 00:47:10.679
poking it with a broom or

00:47:10.739 --> 00:47:11.681
whatever it is they do.

00:47:12.501 --> 00:47:13.661
down down in that data

00:47:13.681 --> 00:47:15.724
center I don't understand

00:47:15.744 --> 00:47:16.985
are you saying that you

00:47:17.025 --> 00:47:18.065
didn't like the original

00:47:18.085 --> 00:47:20.047
shaft is that no no I'm

00:47:20.086 --> 00:47:21.327
just saying that you you

00:47:21.367 --> 00:47:23.070
just said a film with

00:47:23.110 --> 00:47:24.331
samuel l jackson where he

00:47:24.411 --> 00:47:25.891
just goes it around and

00:47:26.472 --> 00:47:27.472
because because obviously

00:47:27.512 --> 00:47:29.355
training day is denzel washington right

00:47:30.463 --> 00:47:32.565
You just said, like,

00:47:32.744 --> 00:47:34.567
a film like Training Day where, like,

00:47:34.666 --> 00:47:35.806
I assume what you mean is

00:47:36.288 --> 00:47:37.148
Samuel L. Jackson goes

00:47:37.168 --> 00:47:38.568
around and kicks people in the ass,

00:47:38.608 --> 00:47:39.530
which is Shaft,

00:47:39.650 --> 00:47:42.331
which was sort of

00:47:42.391 --> 00:47:43.751
contemporary to the prequels.

00:47:43.831 --> 00:47:45.393
What you're saying is you

00:47:45.432 --> 00:47:48.695
prefer Shaft reboot to the prequels.

00:47:50.155 --> 00:47:51.076
I'm saying, like,

00:47:51.757 --> 00:47:54.998
the style of the training.

00:47:55.318 --> 00:47:56.500
You know, because, like, you know,

00:47:56.659 --> 00:47:58.820
the Jedi training with Ewan

00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:00.181
McGregor is like, eh, it's up in

00:48:02.277 --> 00:48:04.518
You know, if it was a shaft situation,

00:48:05.059 --> 00:48:05.699
or not a shaft,

00:48:05.918 --> 00:48:06.860
Samuel L. Jackson's shaft.

00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:07.739
I told you.

00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:09.081
You know,

00:48:09.460 --> 00:48:11.382
lots more motherfuckers and you

00:48:11.422 --> 00:48:12.123
might have had some good

00:48:12.322 --> 00:48:13.623
one-liners like snakes.

00:48:14.224 --> 00:48:16.885
So in the chat, in the chat,

00:48:17.465 --> 00:48:18.847
Funky has said Darth Maul

00:48:18.867 --> 00:48:19.887
was a badass at least.

00:48:20.608 --> 00:48:23.190
Darth Maul was British

00:48:23.269 --> 00:48:25.110
comedian Peter Serafinowicz.

00:48:25.431 --> 00:48:26.112
He was a Nancy.

00:48:27.231 --> 00:48:28.512
I thought he might have had

00:48:28.552 --> 00:48:29.653
a mental disorder, like...

00:48:30.387 --> 00:48:33.327
Have you... Okay, so if you... Okay,

00:48:33.688 --> 00:48:34.668
whatever you think of Darth Maul,

00:48:36.130 --> 00:48:38.150
look up Peter Serafinovich

00:48:38.530 --> 00:48:40.592
if you haven't... Because I

00:48:40.672 --> 00:48:42.273
would imagine that his

00:48:42.492 --> 00:48:45.034
humor has not made it to America,

00:48:45.074 --> 00:48:46.295
but he's a reasonably... Yeah,

00:48:46.315 --> 00:48:46.695
sure he is.

00:48:47.514 --> 00:48:47.775
Really?

00:48:47.934 --> 00:48:48.155
Okay.

00:48:48.335 --> 00:48:49.215
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:48:49.335 --> 00:48:50.836
So you know like the 50...

00:48:50.836 --> 00:48:52.036
Like all the stuff he did in the 2000s.

00:48:52.077 --> 00:48:54.038
He hosts a show too, doesn't he?

00:48:54.478 --> 00:48:55.239
Like some sort of show?

00:48:55.858 --> 00:48:56.880
Yeah.

00:48:56.900 --> 00:48:57.960
Peter Serafinovich's show.

00:48:58.380 --> 00:48:58.579
Yeah.

00:48:58.840 --> 00:48:59.460
Oh, is that what it's called?

00:48:59.641 --> 00:48:59.721
Yeah.

00:49:00.255 --> 00:49:01.976
Yeah, we did like Brian Butterfield.

00:49:02.056 --> 00:49:03.498
The Butterfield Diet.

00:49:03.918 --> 00:49:07.561
This says Ray Park plays Darth Maul.

00:49:09.001 --> 00:49:09.222
What?

00:49:10.563 --> 00:49:13.324
Maybe he says that Ray Park

00:49:13.344 --> 00:49:14.025
plays Darth Maul.

00:49:14.166 --> 00:49:15.047
Maybe he just voiced it.

00:49:15.086 --> 00:49:19.889
Maybe I'm totally wrong.

00:49:20.010 --> 00:49:22.291
I thought that it was Peter Serafinowicz.

00:49:22.512 --> 00:49:22.992
I could be wrong.

00:49:23.793 --> 00:49:25.173
It's unrelated.

00:49:25.213 --> 00:49:27.376
Can you guess what the Shaft

00:49:28.416 --> 00:49:29.097
catchphrase is?

00:49:32.492 --> 00:49:33.172
From the original.

00:49:37.112 --> 00:49:38.273
Shaft's his name.

00:49:39.134 --> 00:49:40.233
Shaft's his game.

00:49:40.253 --> 00:49:45.916
Oh, that was like the movie subtitle?

00:49:45.936 --> 00:49:46.396
Yeah, yeah.

00:49:46.856 --> 00:49:47.456
Yeesh.

00:49:49.949 --> 00:49:51.570
Like early 70s, right?

00:49:51.889 --> 00:49:51.570
71?

00:49:52.371 --> 00:49:54.452
That's pretty fucking bad.

00:49:54.592 --> 00:49:55.333
Sure, he's right.

00:49:55.373 --> 00:49:56.474
There was an actor who,

00:49:56.735 --> 00:49:58.317
just like Darth Vader in the originals,

00:49:58.376 --> 00:50:00.739
there's an actor who played Darth Maul,

00:50:01.179 --> 00:50:02.201
and then he was voiced by

00:50:02.240 --> 00:50:03.101
Peter Serafinowicz,

00:50:03.181 --> 00:50:04.182
but Peter Serafinowicz

00:50:04.282 --> 00:50:04.862
wasn't in the movie.

00:50:04.882 --> 00:50:06.425
I thought he both...

00:50:08.697 --> 00:50:10.159
was was stomping around

00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:11.918
which is kind of like

00:50:11.938 --> 00:50:12.900
that's kind of spoiled that

00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:13.760
movie in some ways because

00:50:13.780 --> 00:50:15.041
like I used to just find it

00:50:15.081 --> 00:50:16.041
very funny it's just like

00:50:16.121 --> 00:50:17.481
it's peter serafinovich and

00:50:17.501 --> 00:50:19.641
a big cape that's enjoyable

00:50:20.242 --> 00:50:20.922
but now I know it's just

00:50:20.943 --> 00:50:22.242
some guy who's good at

00:50:22.282 --> 00:50:24.744
stunts it's not like it's

00:50:24.764 --> 00:50:25.565
not like a middle-aged

00:50:25.585 --> 00:50:26.724
british comedian in a big

00:50:26.824 --> 00:50:30.067
coat yeah which is a really

00:50:30.146 --> 00:50:31.206
funny mental image right

00:50:32.106 --> 00:50:32.827
you know he just looks like

00:50:32.867 --> 00:50:34.288
a normal guy so he's just

00:50:34.327 --> 00:50:35.768
like is that peter serafinovich

00:50:37.393 --> 00:50:37.713
But no.

00:50:38.112 --> 00:50:39.773
It's not a great Star Wars character.

00:50:42.353 --> 00:50:45.293
It doesn't invoke the hate,

00:50:45.594 --> 00:50:46.054
you know what I mean?

00:50:46.215 --> 00:50:47.554
You kind of want to root it for the guy,

00:50:47.635 --> 00:50:49.155
which is not really a good trait.

00:50:50.215 --> 00:50:51.956
The thing to be said for Phantom Menace,

00:50:52.016 --> 00:50:52.356
actually,

00:50:52.456 --> 00:50:53.496
is it does have the best

00:50:53.755 --> 00:50:55.275
soundtrack out of the originals.

00:50:55.815 --> 00:50:56.775
Not the originals, the prequels.

00:50:57.317 --> 00:50:58.697
Because it has Jewel of the Fates, right?

00:50:58.737 --> 00:51:01.016
Which is the best of all the,

00:51:01.056 --> 00:51:02.396
possibly the best Star Wars

00:51:02.436 --> 00:51:03.978
themed full stop, actually,

00:51:04.358 --> 00:51:05.217
is Jewel of the Fates.

00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:09.222
No clue.

00:51:09.322 --> 00:51:14.282
I would agree with that.

00:51:14.483 --> 00:51:16.103
It's the climax music for

00:51:16.143 --> 00:51:19.844
the fight at the end of Phantom Menace.

00:51:20.025 --> 00:51:22.025
But out of all the John

00:51:22.045 --> 00:51:24.347
Williams Star Wars soundtracks?

00:51:24.507 --> 00:51:27.248
Let's just exclude the main theme,

00:51:27.967 --> 00:51:33.050
but I think... No, there's only the best,

00:51:33.250 --> 00:51:35.411
by far, John Williams piece of music

00:51:36.487 --> 00:51:38.728
is the asteroid theme in Empire.

00:51:38.748 --> 00:51:38.728
100%.

00:51:39.309 --> 00:51:40.050
More than any other piece.

00:51:40.771 --> 00:51:43.391
More than the main theme.

00:51:43.751 --> 00:51:45.514
More than the main theme.

00:51:45.554 --> 00:51:47.315
More than the ending theme.

00:51:47.414 --> 00:51:49.815
I'm going to get demonetized over this.

00:51:50.516 --> 00:51:52.197
It's not even a question.

00:51:52.918 --> 00:51:54.918
The asteroid thing,

00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:57.081
when Han lands the asteroid

00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:59.141
into the mouth on that thing,

00:51:59.181 --> 00:51:59.981
when they actually go

00:52:00.001 --> 00:52:01.063
through there and they have to go...

00:52:02.005 --> 00:52:02.766
They go into the asteroid

00:52:02.786 --> 00:52:03.248
field and all that.

00:52:03.648 --> 00:52:05.010
That piece of music, by far,

00:52:05.170 --> 00:52:06.873
more than any other Star

00:52:06.893 --> 00:52:09.836
Wars piece of music, is 100% the best.

00:52:10.617 --> 00:52:09.836
100%.

00:52:10.677 --> 00:52:11.798
I'll link it in the show notes.

00:52:12.380 --> 00:52:15.023
It is by far more than anything else.

00:52:15.043 --> 00:52:15.224
I would

00:52:19.943 --> 00:52:20.963
Dude, not even close.

00:52:21.483 --> 00:52:21.643
Like,

00:52:21.923 --> 00:52:24.364
it is... I don't even know how you

00:52:24.385 --> 00:52:26.106
guys do... Like, I'm shocked.

00:52:26.306 --> 00:52:27.847
Not even the triumphal music

00:52:27.887 --> 00:52:29.867
at the end of New Hope.

00:52:30.068 --> 00:52:31.427
No, not even close.

00:52:31.588 --> 00:52:31.628
No,

00:52:31.648 --> 00:52:34.909
it's fucking 3PO sitting up there in

00:52:34.949 --> 00:52:36.510
his suit and all that shit.

00:52:36.530 --> 00:52:37.050
None of that shit.

00:52:37.090 --> 00:52:40.791
Like, the asteroid field theme, by far,

00:52:40.791 --> 00:52:42.853
100% the best piece of Star

00:52:42.873 --> 00:52:43.893
Wars music ever written.

00:52:43.914 --> 00:52:44.353
And actually,

00:52:44.454 --> 00:52:45.914
I think John Williams' best

00:52:45.954 --> 00:52:48.536
piece of Star Wars music may be best...

00:52:48.976 --> 00:52:49.815
wait let me rephrase that

00:52:50.056 --> 00:52:51.036
the best piece of john

00:52:51.257 --> 00:52:52.577
williams music ever written

00:52:53.378 --> 00:52:54.798
is that theme that theme is

00:52:55.259 --> 00:52:55.998
unbelievable it's only like

00:52:56.018 --> 00:52:56.818
three minutes long too it's

00:52:56.838 --> 00:52:59.280
like incredible I'll put in

00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.681
100 like I mean it's

00:53:01.742 --> 00:53:02.961
amazing okay but we can all

00:53:03.001 --> 00:53:06.043
agree that paul's music for

00:53:06.083 --> 00:53:07.784
goldeneye on the n64 is

00:53:07.884 --> 00:53:09.224
still the hardest

00:53:09.244 --> 00:53:10.525
soundtrack of all time

00:53:11.206 --> 00:53:13.967
right yeah I mean anything

00:53:14.306 --> 00:53:15.487
break down the 16 bit yeah

00:53:15.507 --> 00:53:17.949
of course it's all about that

00:53:19.402 --> 00:53:21.403
That noise, that sound,

00:53:21.724 --> 00:53:23.186
anybody who grew up in the 90s,

00:53:24.025 --> 00:53:25.126
you can literally play it,

00:53:25.347 --> 00:53:27.248
that kind of weird reverb

00:53:27.327 --> 00:53:28.608
gong sound from the Golden

00:53:28.688 --> 00:53:30.831
Eyes soundtrack, and people's heads turn.

00:53:31.130 --> 00:53:33.192
I know exactly what you're talking about.

00:53:33.231 --> 00:53:34.492
Yeah, a fun trick,

00:53:34.552 --> 00:53:35.494
if anybody here does get

00:53:35.514 --> 00:53:36.253
the chance to ever do this,

00:53:36.293 --> 00:53:37.775
if you do sound at a small gig,

00:53:38.815 --> 00:53:39.376
something like that,

00:53:39.396 --> 00:53:40.737
and you get to play music

00:53:40.797 --> 00:53:42.318
before the bands or between the bands,

00:53:42.398 --> 00:53:43.239
make sure you have...

00:53:43.797 --> 00:53:45.097
a tiny little sample of that

00:53:45.257 --> 00:53:46.619
loaded on the MP3 player.

00:53:47.260 --> 00:53:48.061
Just make sure it's in the

00:53:48.101 --> 00:53:49.121
shuffle rotation so it

00:53:49.181 --> 00:53:50.443
comes up at some point.

00:53:50.864 --> 00:53:51.664
And you will see a bunch of

00:53:51.684 --> 00:53:52.485
people standing around

00:53:52.525 --> 00:53:53.967
waiting to see whatever

00:53:53.987 --> 00:53:55.509
kind of music it is, some metal band,

00:53:55.548 --> 00:53:55.728
right?

00:53:56.369 --> 00:53:57.110
Standing around with their

00:53:57.150 --> 00:53:58.110
beers and then there'll

00:53:58.130 --> 00:53:59.253
just be a moment where they

00:53:59.313 --> 00:54:00.414
think that reality just

00:54:00.474 --> 00:54:01.554
glitched and they will do this.

00:54:03.150 --> 00:54:05.152
and then they go back to their beer,

00:54:05.612 --> 00:54:06.994
and they're not sure what just happened.

00:54:07.574 --> 00:54:08.135
It's amazing.

00:54:09.436 --> 00:54:10.376
And yes, I did used to do that.

00:54:10.956 --> 00:54:12.559
In fact, I sampled it quite a bit.

00:54:12.579 --> 00:54:14.480
There are a number of them.

00:54:14.579 --> 00:54:15.481
I'm really interested in how

00:54:15.501 --> 00:54:16.702
that soundtrack was made, actually.

00:54:16.961 --> 00:54:17.802
Let's not even get into it,

00:54:17.922 --> 00:54:19.684
but it's a really cool sample,

00:54:19.784 --> 00:54:20.244
whatever it is.

00:54:20.344 --> 00:54:21.907
I assume it's a gong of some kind.

00:54:22.847 --> 00:54:23.447
It's a gong.

00:54:25.590 --> 00:54:27.411
That one in the original

00:54:27.431 --> 00:54:29.693
Nintendo hockey soundtrack.

00:54:31.563 --> 00:54:33.965
Nintendo hockey on the original Nintendo,

00:54:34.346 --> 00:54:35.507
when you actually made

00:54:35.567 --> 00:54:37.088
somebody bleed that noise,

00:54:37.528 --> 00:54:39.010
I can hear that noise and

00:54:39.030 --> 00:54:40.090
know exactly where it comes from.

00:54:42.092 --> 00:54:42.652
I would say one of the

00:54:42.672 --> 00:54:43.413
bigger discrepancies

00:54:43.454 --> 00:54:44.715
between like a bad movie

00:54:44.735 --> 00:54:46.416
and a great soundtrack is Braveheart.

00:54:46.996 --> 00:54:48.177
The Braveheart soundtrack

00:54:48.356 --> 00:54:50.719
like goes really hard in my opinion,

00:54:51.539 --> 00:54:53.360
but the movie itself just falls flat.

00:54:53.380 --> 00:54:56.503
Goodness, really?

00:54:58.739 --> 00:54:59.740
Does nobody know what the

00:54:59.780 --> 00:55:00.960
Braveheart soundtrack is?

00:55:01.121 --> 00:55:02.643
I'm literally trying to picture it.

00:55:02.663 --> 00:55:03.862
I'm not questioning the soundtrack.

00:55:03.902 --> 00:55:07.065
I'm questioning the Braveheart movies.

00:55:07.246 --> 00:55:10.708
It's a fucking great movie.

00:55:11.507 --> 00:55:12.708
It's like pretty okay,

00:55:12.849 --> 00:55:14.869
but that's as much as I'll give it.

00:55:14.889 --> 00:55:17.512
The soundtrack is so good.

00:55:17.891 --> 00:55:20.733
The memes are funny about Braveheart.

00:55:22.255 --> 00:55:23.215
Sorry, not Braveheart.

00:55:23.456 --> 00:55:24.135
Dragonheart.

00:55:24.436 --> 00:55:25.097
I meant Dragonheart.

00:55:25.117 --> 00:55:25.717
Oh, shit.

00:55:25.757 --> 00:55:26.217
What the fuck?

00:55:27.105 --> 00:55:29.867
why did you we were

00:55:29.887 --> 00:55:30.967
definitely not on the same

00:55:31.047 --> 00:55:35.811
page that's so funny that's

00:55:35.831 --> 00:55:37.192
so funny what's that what's

00:55:37.231 --> 00:55:39.554
the one with show reaction

00:55:39.574 --> 00:55:40.614
to that braveheart thing

00:55:40.635 --> 00:55:41.454
that I've accidentally

00:55:41.574 --> 00:55:42.876
locked the back of my chair

00:55:42.956 --> 00:55:44.157
and you know like you know

00:55:44.197 --> 00:55:45.137
when you actually lock your

00:55:45.177 --> 00:55:46.998
head the board rigid like

00:55:47.018 --> 00:55:48.500
like if you lean back it

00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:49.561
punches you in the back of

00:55:49.581 --> 00:55:50.722
the head and now I can't I'm

00:55:51.983 --> 00:55:52.603
You're like, wait,

00:55:52.862 --> 00:55:53.983
I didn't mean Goodfellas.

00:55:54.043 --> 00:55:55.423
I meant Weekend at Bernie's.

00:55:55.824 --> 00:55:56.184
My bad.

00:55:56.244 --> 00:55:57.324
I totally fucked it up.

00:56:02.144 --> 00:56:03.206
What's the Sean Connery

00:56:03.246 --> 00:56:05.045
movie where he goes fucking

00:56:05.085 --> 00:56:06.106
back and forward in time?

00:56:06.465 --> 00:56:08.947
Or he is from the past?

00:56:10.126 --> 00:56:10.726
Highlander?

00:56:11.148 --> 00:56:12.628
Highlander, yeah.

00:56:12.668 --> 00:56:13.027
Fucking...

00:56:13.990 --> 00:56:14.331
That's good.

00:56:14.371 --> 00:56:15.311
A hot sand track.

00:56:15.351 --> 00:56:17.152
The best thing, the best thing.

00:56:17.172 --> 00:56:18.112
The Scottish accent.

00:56:18.793 --> 00:56:19.653
And the guy,

00:56:19.673 --> 00:56:22.735
the main guy who's Dutch or

00:56:22.775 --> 00:56:23.695
whatever is trying to do a

00:56:23.715 --> 00:56:26.318
Scottish accent and sounds like Spanish.

00:56:26.878 --> 00:56:27.818
And then Sean Connery,

00:56:27.838 --> 00:56:30.539
who's supposed to be Spanish is like, yes,

00:56:30.579 --> 00:56:31.661
well, I was a Spaniard.

00:56:31.721 --> 00:56:33.402
Just, just switch.

00:56:33.422 --> 00:56:34.501
Cause Dutch guy, you sound Spanish.

00:56:39.724 --> 00:56:41.545
sean you sound like sean

00:56:41.565 --> 00:56:43.987
it's fine close enough such

00:56:44.166 --> 00:56:45.387
such a good fucking movie

00:56:45.887 --> 00:56:51.271
oh man all right so what we

00:56:51.291 --> 00:56:52.010
have any homework for a

00:56:52.070 --> 00:56:52.972
movie watching what do we

00:56:53.032 --> 00:56:54.293
say oh you said the brick

00:56:54.452 --> 00:56:56.153
right brick brick brick is

00:56:56.193 --> 00:56:57.673
great I'm gonna be

00:56:57.693 --> 00:56:58.735
disappointed I already know

00:56:58.755 --> 00:56:59.976
I'm gonna be disappointed

00:56:59.976 --> 00:57:01.936
30 minutes now about the

00:57:01.996 --> 00:57:03.056
various things that joseph

00:57:03.077 --> 00:57:03.958
gordon levitt has been in

00:57:03.978 --> 00:57:04.677
or whatever the fuck

00:57:05.273 --> 00:57:06.273
the point I was going to say

00:57:06.313 --> 00:57:08.094
was I was going to recommend the film,

00:57:08.135 --> 00:57:10.297
the creator, which is by,

00:57:10.317 --> 00:57:12.097
it's not by Rian Johnson.

00:57:12.197 --> 00:57:13.159
It's by Gareth Edwards.

00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:18.862
Um, and it's got, um, uh, uh, uh,

00:57:18.902 --> 00:57:19.903
thingy from tenant in it.

00:57:20.603 --> 00:57:22.766
Um, the thingy from tenant.

00:57:23.286 --> 00:57:27.889
No, the actor, obviously, uh,

00:57:28.010 --> 00:57:30.070
David Washington, John David Washington.

00:57:30.090 --> 00:57:30.632
There you go.

00:57:30.652 --> 00:57:30.851
Yeah.

00:57:31.773 --> 00:57:33.934
Um, is, is it, and it's, it's pretty good.

00:57:33.954 --> 00:57:34.614
Isn't the creator.

00:57:35.492 --> 00:57:35.612
Yeah.

00:57:36.032 --> 00:57:36.273
Okay.

00:57:36.773 --> 00:57:37.532
So it's quite woolly.

00:57:37.773 --> 00:57:38.333
It's quite woolly.

00:57:38.353 --> 00:57:39.054
There are some bits of it,

00:57:39.155 --> 00:57:41.076
but there's specifically one bit, right,

00:57:41.155 --> 00:57:44.478
where there's like a space

00:57:44.518 --> 00:57:45.938
station and a satellite

00:57:46.179 --> 00:57:47.300
watching what's going on.

00:57:47.820 --> 00:57:48.860
And some people get into a

00:57:48.900 --> 00:57:50.481
boat and sail off.

00:57:51.463 --> 00:57:52.864
And everyone's like, where did they go?

00:57:52.884 --> 00:57:53.844
It's like, oh, I don't know.

00:57:53.905 --> 00:57:55.125
Maybe just like use the

00:57:55.144 --> 00:57:56.085
thing that was following

00:57:56.126 --> 00:57:57.507
them from space to figure

00:57:57.547 --> 00:57:58.547
out where they went.

00:58:00.528 --> 00:58:01.730
There are a few bits like

00:58:01.769 --> 00:58:02.791
that where they just needed

00:58:02.831 --> 00:58:03.911
to advance the plot and you

00:58:03.951 --> 00:58:04.572
could tell that

00:58:05.822 --> 00:58:07.824
they maybe didn't have the

00:58:07.864 --> 00:58:11.606
budget or time to fucking figure it out.

00:58:11.626 --> 00:58:12.588
Basically,

00:58:13.208 --> 00:58:14.009
there are some bits where it

00:58:14.048 --> 00:58:14.829
definitely feels like they

00:58:14.849 --> 00:58:17.150
were on a schedule and

00:58:17.190 --> 00:58:18.291
they've done an incredibly

00:58:18.331 --> 00:58:20.813
good job with what they had access to.

00:58:20.873 --> 00:58:21.414
It's good enough.

00:58:21.715 --> 00:58:22.476
Yeah.

00:58:22.715 --> 00:58:23.356
But there's a couple of

00:58:23.376 --> 00:58:24.056
things where you're just like,

00:58:24.978 --> 00:58:26.018
that doesn't fully make sense,

00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:26.898
but I'm going to go with it

00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:31.583
in the interest of, you know, but,

00:58:31.722 --> 00:58:32.463
you know, for the most part,

00:58:32.483 --> 00:58:32.903
it's actually,

00:58:33.224 --> 00:58:34.144
it's actually a pretty good film.

00:58:34.224 --> 00:58:34.606
It has some,

00:58:36.945 --> 00:58:38.405
The graphics and everything

00:58:38.445 --> 00:58:39.945
in it are absolutely incredible.

00:58:39.965 --> 00:58:41.786
The world building is really impressive.

00:58:43.088 --> 00:58:44.688
Alright, so the creator of Brick,

00:58:44.708 --> 00:58:45.568
what am I watching this week?

00:58:45.728 --> 00:58:46.489
Just cut down to it.

00:58:46.510 --> 00:58:49.150
The creator is sci-fi.

00:58:50.052 --> 00:58:51.652
Just tell me.

00:58:51.952 --> 00:58:52.353
Decision.

00:58:53.293 --> 00:58:54.034
Brick's the better film.

00:58:54.054 --> 00:58:54.773
Brick's the better film.

00:58:54.793 --> 00:58:55.335
We're 113 episodes in.

00:58:55.355 --> 00:58:55.954
We've got a long ways to go.

00:58:55.974 --> 00:58:56.195
It's fine.

00:58:56.215 --> 00:58:57.815
I can watch the next one next week.

00:58:57.835 --> 00:58:58.996
Alright, Brick.

00:59:06.219 --> 00:59:06.820
That's our homework.

00:59:07.900 --> 00:59:09.342
So moving on.

00:59:09.362 --> 00:59:15.385
Did you see this shit with Roaring Kitty?

00:59:16.987 --> 00:59:21.650
He's been touted as the

00:59:22.190 --> 00:59:24.271
internet Warren Buffett.

00:59:26.052 --> 00:59:28.134
That's something.

00:59:29.255 --> 00:59:30.014
What do you think the

00:59:30.054 --> 00:59:31.436
chances are that the SEC

00:59:31.476 --> 00:59:33.077
picked this guy up for insider trading?

00:59:35.981 --> 00:59:36.862
He's an influencer,

00:59:36.922 --> 00:59:38.302
but he's not an insider, right?

00:59:38.322 --> 00:59:39.403
He doesn't know anything.

00:59:39.443 --> 00:59:42.126
He's just influencing horrible decisions.

00:59:42.545 --> 00:59:44.126
If you influence the market

00:59:44.246 --> 00:59:45.648
and you buy shit before you

00:59:45.668 --> 00:59:46.688
do it and then you dump it,

00:59:46.708 --> 00:59:47.590
I'm pretty sure it's still

00:59:47.650 --> 00:59:48.329
insider trading.

00:59:48.690 --> 00:59:50.711
Yeah, but he already did that one time,

00:59:50.771 --> 00:59:50.992
right?

00:59:56.235 --> 00:59:56.735
Did he sell?

00:59:57.617 --> 01:00:00.239
This isn't the original GameStop guy,

01:00:00.278 --> 01:00:00.518
is it?

01:00:01.378 --> 01:00:02.820
With his roaring kitty, it is, yeah.

01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:03.340
Yeah, it is.

01:00:04.344 --> 01:00:04.583
Is it?

01:00:04.764 --> 01:00:05.585
Oh, there you go.

01:00:05.684 --> 01:00:06.806
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:06.867 --> 01:00:07.927
That's why Roaring Kitty is

01:00:07.947 --> 01:00:09.809
an important cultural thing.

01:00:13.492 --> 01:00:14.914
Well... Noel's just like, wait, wait,

01:00:14.934 --> 01:00:15.434
wait a minute.

01:00:15.454 --> 01:00:16.635
Are you telling me GameStop

01:00:16.715 --> 01:00:18.077
all happened because of Roaring Kitty?

01:00:18.177 --> 01:00:19.579
I mean, essentially, yes, Noel.

01:00:19.619 --> 01:00:20.639
That is what we're saying.

01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:23.782
I thought the guy's name was different.

01:00:23.822 --> 01:00:24.382
But anyway.

01:00:24.824 --> 01:00:28.266
So, yeah, I mean, GameStop pumps.

01:00:30.905 --> 01:00:31.786
it did yesterday it was up

01:00:31.827 --> 01:00:33.989
like I think 70 yesterday

01:00:34.349 --> 01:00:36.731
or something it dumped it

01:00:36.771 --> 01:00:37.791
dumped from well let's see

01:00:37.891 --> 01:00:39.132
may 13th it jumped it

01:00:39.253 --> 01:00:42.815
jumped from 17 to a peak of

01:00:42.815 --> 01:00:46.798
64 over 24 hours and then

01:00:46.898 --> 01:00:48.360
today I know it dumped a

01:00:48.420 --> 01:00:49.039
bunch because I was

01:00:49.099 --> 01:00:50.802
watching it um I'm not an

01:00:50.862 --> 01:00:51.963
investor in gamestop

01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:55.021
I saw it dumping back down

01:00:55.081 --> 01:00:56.240
to like 30 bucks.

01:00:56.260 --> 01:00:57.822
So it dropped like 50% over

01:00:57.842 --> 01:00:59.182
the course of another 24 hours.

01:00:59.222 --> 01:00:59.902
And right now it's actually

01:00:59.922 --> 01:01:01.603
working its way back up to

01:01:01.603 --> 01:01:02.664
39 because everybody's

01:01:02.704 --> 01:01:04.123
telling their relatives to

01:01:04.164 --> 01:01:05.864
buy the shit to bail out.

01:01:06.806 --> 01:01:07.106
Yeah.

01:01:07.346 --> 01:01:09.065
Is this just lazy investing?

01:01:09.166 --> 01:01:09.447
Like,

01:01:11.206 --> 01:01:12.748
I feel like it's just trying to jump

01:01:12.827 --> 01:01:13.248
on a pump.

01:01:14.068 --> 01:01:15.248
Is he back?

01:01:16.648 --> 01:01:17.949
He doesn't look like he's back.

01:01:19.090 --> 01:01:20.650
He made a message on like

01:01:20.710 --> 01:01:22.632
Monday to cause the craze.

01:01:23.032 --> 01:01:24.853
Yeah.

01:01:25.333 --> 01:01:26.153
No, I don't think so either.

01:01:26.934 --> 01:01:27.715
Cause he doesn't like,

01:01:27.735 --> 01:01:29.416
it doesn't look like he's posted shit.

01:01:29.456 --> 01:01:31.657
There's nothing on his Twitter either.

01:01:31.836 --> 01:01:33.757
The thing I read said he

01:01:33.797 --> 01:01:35.579
hadn't posted in like three years.

01:01:35.978 --> 01:01:36.139
Yeah.

01:01:36.318 --> 01:01:37.699
18th of February, 2021 is the last post.

01:01:41.617 --> 01:01:43.458
But he does have like 1.2

01:01:43.458 --> 01:01:45.719
million subscribers on... Yeah,

01:01:45.739 --> 01:01:47.880
but he's not... So when we say,

01:01:48.099 --> 01:01:48.780
is he back?

01:01:48.980 --> 01:01:49.920
Is that just that he's

01:01:50.021 --> 01:01:51.161
reactivated his Twitter

01:01:51.201 --> 01:01:52.681
account from being inactive?

01:01:53.722 --> 01:01:54.922
I don't think he's... Well,

01:01:54.942 --> 01:01:55.983
he created... Go ahead.

01:01:56.043 --> 01:01:59.123
I was just going to say,

01:01:59.384 --> 01:02:00.143
the only thing he's back

01:02:00.164 --> 01:02:01.045
for is he just... I think

01:02:01.085 --> 01:02:02.164
he created some content

01:02:02.184 --> 01:02:04.405
around GameStop and then that was it.

01:02:04.565 --> 01:02:04.646
Well,

01:02:04.666 --> 01:02:05.945
there's no content here on his

01:02:05.965 --> 01:02:06.565
Twitter account.

01:02:06.646 --> 01:02:08.166
There's no content on his YouTube account.

01:02:08.853 --> 01:02:10.355
Well, he mainly posted on Reddit,

01:02:10.414 --> 01:02:11.036
if I remember correctly.

01:02:11.056 --> 01:02:11.715
Yeah, it's all on Reddit.

01:02:13.476 --> 01:02:13.637
Yep.

01:02:14.358 --> 01:02:15.699
So it's down, what is it today?

01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:17.480
Down 8% after hours.

01:02:19.061 --> 01:02:20.862
Last 24 hours, it's down 20% today.

01:02:20.882 --> 01:02:22.563
So actually,

01:02:23.023 --> 01:02:25.706
it opened this morning at around $40,

01:02:25.706 --> 01:02:26.085
I think.

01:02:27.286 --> 01:02:27.427
Well,

01:02:27.467 --> 01:02:29.409
yesterday they stopped trading 16 times.

01:02:30.088 --> 01:02:31.090
Oh, they did?

01:02:31.349 --> 01:02:32.331
Yeah.

01:02:33.711 --> 01:02:34.692
Fucking stop, DJs.

01:02:38.072 --> 01:02:39.532
Something that doesn't happen in crypto,

01:02:39.572 --> 01:02:39.693
right?

01:02:41.719 --> 01:02:42.079
It's funny.

01:02:42.099 --> 01:02:43.099
Because permissionless,

01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:46.081
you can keep degeneration going on,

01:02:46.501 --> 01:02:47.141
even when.

01:02:47.181 --> 01:02:48.943
Yeah, just keep shoveling shit in there.

01:02:48.983 --> 01:02:49.543
It's fine.

01:02:49.563 --> 01:02:50.123
24-7, baby.

01:02:50.164 --> 01:02:52.005
Keep shoveling shit in there 24-7.

01:02:52.045 --> 01:02:52.644
And don't worry,

01:02:52.664 --> 01:02:53.706
there's absolutely no way

01:02:53.746 --> 01:02:54.545
that institutions are going

01:02:54.626 --> 01:02:56.106
to take advantage of that.

01:02:56.186 --> 01:02:58.347
All that's going to happen

01:02:58.447 --> 01:03:01.590
is that any kind of vestige

01:03:01.630 --> 01:03:02.610
of the idea that it's an

01:03:02.670 --> 01:03:03.710
even playing field is going

01:03:03.731 --> 01:03:04.951
to vanish as soon as the

01:03:04.990 --> 01:03:06.072
institutions work out.

01:03:06.952 --> 01:03:07.793
Wait a minute, we can just...

01:03:08.932 --> 01:03:10.914
rug people and there's

01:03:10.954 --> 01:03:12.733
probably zero consequences.

01:03:12.893 --> 01:03:13.994
And it's all good?

01:03:14.414 --> 01:03:16.074
It's all good.

01:03:16.094 --> 01:03:18.375
The dog with hat will never die.

01:03:19.014 --> 01:03:20.876
People will just get

01:03:20.936 --> 01:03:22.856
completely owned and then just be like,

01:03:23.076 --> 01:03:23.436
oh well,

01:03:23.476 --> 01:03:25.195
I guess I deserved it because

01:03:26.936 --> 01:03:32.137
everybody is like a bootlicker in crypto.

01:03:32.878 --> 01:03:34.797
This dog with hat has been a

01:03:34.818 --> 01:03:35.858
fucking rollercoaster.

01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:37.478
What's happening now?

01:03:38.097 --> 01:03:40.057
When I buy it like five episodes ago,

01:03:40.077 --> 01:03:43.139
it's like up and down and up and down.

01:03:43.340 --> 01:03:44.079
Are you holding?

01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:45.201
You're holding?

01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:47.802
Fucking diamond fisting that shit.

01:03:49.744 --> 01:03:51.103
Are you down then?

01:03:51.344 --> 01:03:53.126
You're looking at a future millionaire.

01:03:54.686 --> 01:03:56.768
I am down too far to sell.

01:03:59.528 --> 01:04:00.289
That's what it's called.

01:04:00.690 --> 01:04:01.530
It's diamond fisting.

01:04:02.231 --> 01:04:03.452
Josh, shut up.

01:04:04.052 --> 01:04:04.972
I'm actually up about 20%.

01:04:06.567 --> 01:04:08.768
Josh Schaefer from Yahoo Finance reports,

01:04:09.268 --> 01:04:10.789
GameStop's Roaring Kitty

01:04:11.010 --> 01:04:12.251
surge doesn't mean meme

01:04:12.271 --> 01:04:13.612
stock rally has legs.

01:04:14.833 --> 01:04:16.393
That is some good reporting right there,

01:04:16.414 --> 01:04:16.653
dude.

01:04:16.914 --> 01:04:17.394
No shit, man.

01:04:17.414 --> 01:04:18.576
Because nothing's changed.

01:04:19.695 --> 01:04:20.056
Good job.

01:04:20.257 --> 01:04:22.097
Good job.

01:04:22.657 --> 01:04:23.858
What'd they pay for that?

01:04:23.878 --> 01:04:26.800
It's still a shit company

01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:27.621
with their revenues.

01:04:29.202 --> 01:04:29.583
Wow.

01:04:30.503 --> 01:04:30.884
Amazing.

01:04:32.485 --> 01:04:33.626
The fundamentals still aren't there.

01:04:33.945 --> 01:04:34.746
Yeah, no shit, dude.

01:04:36.516 --> 01:04:36.755
Wow.

01:04:38.538 --> 01:04:39.378
Well done, champion.

01:04:39.657 --> 01:04:40.838
Well done.

01:04:43.081 --> 01:04:43.782
Oh, man.

01:04:44.541 --> 01:04:46.583
It's like that Australian joke.

01:04:47.204 --> 01:04:47.605
For some reason,

01:04:47.625 --> 01:04:48.385
I've got that Australian

01:04:48.405 --> 01:04:49.266
joke in my head where it's

01:04:49.306 --> 01:04:52.849
just like what people say

01:04:52.869 --> 01:04:53.648
versus what they mean.

01:04:53.929 --> 01:04:55.311
There's a variety of ones in

01:04:55.331 --> 01:04:56.452
different countries by

01:04:56.492 --> 01:04:57.351
different nationalities.

01:04:57.411 --> 01:05:01.195
The Australian one is how are you going,

01:05:01.235 --> 01:05:01.556
champ?

01:05:02.275 --> 01:05:03.516
You are about to die.

01:05:03.536 --> 01:05:04.358
It's like

01:05:06.740 --> 01:05:08.943
What a brilliant turn of phrase.

01:05:11.648 --> 01:05:12.088
Incredible.

01:05:13.230 --> 01:05:14.851
I don't know.

01:05:15.411 --> 01:05:17.155
He's like, I call all my friends champ.

01:05:18.496 --> 01:05:19.416
I don't think I've heard

01:05:19.436 --> 01:05:21.260
anyone call anyone champ

01:05:21.300 --> 01:05:22.061
since the fucking 90s.

01:05:22.141 --> 01:05:22.360
Champ.

01:05:23.402 --> 01:05:23.643
Champ.

01:05:24.773 --> 01:05:26.054
The other one's got a style.

01:05:26.273 --> 01:05:26.853
It's Chief.

01:05:27.554 --> 01:05:29.876
Chief used to be like... What's up, Chief?

01:05:30.496 --> 01:05:33.038
Oh, I forgot about Chief.

01:05:33.077 --> 01:05:34.719
What's up, Chief?

01:05:34.759 --> 01:05:36.639
Did you say you've read about Chief?

01:05:38.681 --> 01:05:39.141
No, no, no.

01:05:39.181 --> 01:05:40.402
I forgot about Chief.

01:05:41.503 --> 01:05:43.824
I thought you were like, no, man.

01:05:43.864 --> 01:05:45.425
I'm so young.

01:05:45.445 --> 01:05:46.346
I had to read about it.

01:05:46.365 --> 01:05:46.865
He's got a book.

01:05:46.905 --> 01:05:48.086
He's blowing dust off it.

01:05:49.967 --> 01:05:50.268
The 90s.

01:05:50.548 --> 01:05:50.748
The 90s.

01:05:56.255 --> 01:05:56.655
Oh, man.

01:05:56.695 --> 01:05:57.376
We remember this.

01:05:59.297 --> 01:06:00.418
Yeah, Roaring Kitty's back.

01:06:00.498 --> 01:06:01.378
GME's back.

01:06:02.378 --> 01:06:04.599
No, well, I mean, by next week,

01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:10.302
I'm sure this will be back down to $17.

01:06:10.302 --> 01:06:11.163
It doesn't have to stay high.

01:06:11.182 --> 01:06:12.384
It just has to peak, right?

01:06:12.423 --> 01:06:15.224
Then you sell it all and you get out.

01:06:15.244 --> 01:06:15.324
Well,

01:06:15.344 --> 01:06:18.327
I think that's what stung us as

01:06:18.387 --> 01:06:20.166
validators several times in

01:06:20.226 --> 01:06:21.108
the last few cycles.

01:06:21.768 --> 01:06:22.208
Believing.

01:06:24.358 --> 01:06:25.778
yeah get a whole diamond

01:06:25.838 --> 01:06:27.420
fisting that coin into dust

01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:29.762
we're supposed to be wait

01:06:29.802 --> 01:06:30.762
no we're supposed to be the

01:06:30.822 --> 01:06:31.963
ones abusing other people

01:06:32.023 --> 01:06:33.264
as they exit liquidity but

01:06:33.324 --> 01:06:34.925
instead in a cruel twist

01:06:35.666 --> 01:06:37.268
instead in a cruel system

01:06:38.548 --> 01:06:39.489
that's right it turns out

01:06:39.630 --> 01:06:41.070
the the you know I was

01:06:41.110 --> 01:06:43.373
thinking about this um in

01:06:43.393 --> 01:06:44.793
this this paper that I've

01:06:45.333 --> 01:06:46.954
I've interminably at the

01:06:46.994 --> 01:06:49.396
draft stage uh at one point

01:06:49.416 --> 01:06:50.438
I had to like lay out the

01:06:50.597 --> 01:06:52.480
the usual kind of um agents

01:06:52.500 --> 01:06:53.661
in the system for a blockchain

01:06:54.521 --> 01:06:55.981
And it's got like your foundation,

01:06:56.001 --> 01:06:57.063
core dev team,

01:06:57.762 --> 01:06:59.905
validators or node operators,

01:07:00.804 --> 01:07:02.746
stakers or holders, blah, blah, blah.

01:07:03.286 --> 01:07:03.547
Anyway,

01:07:04.108 --> 01:07:05.489
and as soon as you lay out like that,

01:07:05.509 --> 01:07:07.409
you're like, oh, it's just like liquidity,

01:07:07.570 --> 01:07:07.989
isn't it?

01:07:08.610 --> 01:07:10.431
She's like, who is getting rugged?

01:07:10.552 --> 01:07:11.472
It's a pyramid.

01:07:11.492 --> 01:07:14.695
And then when you kind of organize it.

01:07:15.565 --> 01:07:16.925
into when you organize it by

01:07:17.065 --> 01:07:19.547
number of people in that entity class,

01:07:19.586 --> 01:07:19.847
you know,

01:07:19.927 --> 01:07:21.907
foundation developer team

01:07:22.148 --> 01:07:24.989
validators is literally a pyramid.

01:07:25.449 --> 01:07:25.949
And you're like,

01:07:26.889 --> 01:07:32.010
not only is the pyramid a pyramid scheme,

01:07:32.050 --> 01:07:33.431
but it is actually also as

01:07:33.471 --> 01:07:37.251
an organizational dynamic chart,

01:07:37.632 --> 01:07:40.293
a pyramid scheme, just all of it.

01:07:41.413 --> 01:07:41.532
Yeah.

01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:44.219
you're not supposed to say

01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:48.302
those things yeah you're

01:07:48.521 --> 01:07:49.802
using the outside voice to

01:07:49.862 --> 01:07:53.583
say the inside thoughts oh

01:07:53.664 --> 01:07:58.286
dear okay thanks okay okay

01:07:58.306 --> 01:08:01.387
thank you thanks yeah I

01:08:01.427 --> 01:08:02.668
noticed on last week's on

01:08:02.688 --> 01:08:04.108
last week's um show notes I

01:08:04.128 --> 01:08:05.028
didn't even got to it but

01:08:05.048 --> 01:08:05.809
there's the there's this

01:08:05.829 --> 01:08:06.469
whole thing about there's

01:08:06.489 --> 01:08:07.750
going to be like new uk

01:08:07.791 --> 01:08:08.731
regulation it's like

01:08:09.402 --> 01:08:10.362
Why the fuck would anybody

01:08:10.402 --> 01:08:11.884
care about any new UK

01:08:11.923 --> 01:08:12.824
regulation when there's

01:08:12.864 --> 01:08:14.244
about to be a change in government?

01:08:14.264 --> 01:08:16.145
Is there going to be a

01:08:16.166 --> 01:08:16.725
change in government?

01:08:17.726 --> 01:08:19.427
Oh, yeah.

01:08:19.488 --> 01:08:20.507
When's that coming?

01:08:20.528 --> 01:08:22.429
Is there a vote coming?

01:08:23.488 --> 01:08:24.770
So in the UK,

01:08:25.310 --> 01:08:28.011
we historically don't have

01:08:29.551 --> 01:08:30.953
fixed-term parliaments.

01:08:31.033 --> 01:08:31.372
They just...

01:08:32.648 --> 01:08:33.748
a government realizes it

01:08:33.769 --> 01:08:35.090
can't govern anymore and it

01:08:35.130 --> 01:08:36.251
calls a general election.

01:08:36.310 --> 01:08:37.811
That's historically how it works.

01:08:38.412 --> 01:08:41.054
And then, uh, about 10 years ago,

01:08:41.073 --> 01:08:42.274
don't make me sorry.

01:08:42.295 --> 01:08:44.055
I asked this question 15 years ago,

01:08:44.076 --> 01:08:45.436
they introduced a fixed

01:08:45.457 --> 01:08:46.597
term parliament's bill,

01:08:46.698 --> 01:08:48.259
which meant you had to have a fixed term.

01:08:48.719 --> 01:08:49.840
But then since then we've

01:08:49.859 --> 01:08:51.001
had six elections.

01:08:51.940 --> 01:08:53.703
So obviously the fixed term

01:08:53.743 --> 01:08:55.764
parliament's act is very real.

01:08:55.863 --> 01:08:56.765
And we should believe that

01:08:56.784 --> 01:08:57.765
that's when elections will

01:08:57.805 --> 01:08:59.226
happen in practice.

01:08:59.247 --> 01:08:59.827
Nothing has changed.

01:08:59.907 --> 01:09:00.087
Right.

01:09:00.828 --> 01:09:00.927
Um,

01:09:02.099 --> 01:09:02.979
Yeah, basically the,

01:09:03.038 --> 01:09:04.859
the country is physically falling apart.

01:09:06.300 --> 01:09:07.921
You, everything's fucked.

01:09:07.980 --> 01:09:09.641
Everybody's on strike the entire thing.

01:09:11.242 --> 01:09:14.103
Just no, they can't go on any longer.

01:09:14.222 --> 01:09:15.184
It's just a complete,

01:09:16.264 --> 01:09:17.024
everybody's just placing

01:09:17.064 --> 01:09:18.085
bets on when it's gonna happen.

01:09:18.164 --> 01:09:18.824
It's gotta happen.

01:09:19.784 --> 01:09:23.827
Uh, but speaking of the British government,

01:09:24.886 --> 01:09:27.247
great British movie come out recently,

01:09:27.587 --> 01:09:30.408
the ministry of ungentlemanly warfare.

01:09:31.826 --> 01:09:33.485
Quite a good flick.

01:09:35.067 --> 01:09:35.306
Sorry?

01:09:37.506 --> 01:09:37.867
What this?

01:09:39.688 --> 01:09:41.448
Yeah, it's a film.

01:09:42.467 --> 01:09:42.807
A film?

01:09:44.588 --> 01:09:45.448
Yeah, good ratings.

01:09:45.948 --> 01:09:47.448
Henry Cavill, the lead man.

01:09:47.668 --> 01:09:48.609
Gus March Phillips.

01:09:49.288 --> 01:09:51.350
You would know this story, I'm afraid,

01:09:51.529 --> 01:09:52.810
from World War II.

01:09:53.810 --> 01:09:55.810
Is it the formation of the SOE?

01:10:00.966 --> 01:10:01.466
Yeah, yeah.

01:10:02.247 --> 01:10:04.068
Special operations executive.

01:10:04.368 --> 01:10:05.288
Yeah, okay.

01:10:05.929 --> 01:10:06.069
Yes,

01:10:06.109 --> 01:10:06.969
I would know a little bit about it

01:10:07.009 --> 01:10:07.288
probably.

01:10:09.250 --> 01:10:10.390
With James Bond in there?

01:10:11.150 --> 01:10:13.912
Oh yeah, of course, Ian Fleming.

01:10:14.771 --> 01:10:16.773
Have you seen the... It was on the BBC,

01:10:16.893 --> 01:10:18.512
but it had a pretty good

01:10:18.552 --> 01:10:19.313
production budget.

01:10:19.332 --> 01:10:20.434
It's actually pretty good.

01:10:21.833 --> 01:10:23.034
If you enjoyed that,

01:10:23.295 --> 01:10:24.194
you should probably watch

01:10:24.534 --> 01:10:25.735
SAS Rogue Heroes.

01:10:27.195 --> 01:10:29.537
Is that like some sort of

01:10:30.771 --> 01:10:32.671
documentary it's no no it's

01:10:32.731 --> 01:10:34.552
a drama um it's a drama

01:10:34.653 --> 01:10:36.412
about the people the people

01:10:36.432 --> 01:10:38.394
that kind of set up the sas

01:10:40.073 --> 01:10:42.854
um and yeah it's basically

01:10:42.894 --> 01:10:43.755
just like there are a bunch

01:10:43.774 --> 01:10:45.074
of guys just driving around

01:10:45.095 --> 01:10:47.255
the desert um fucking up

01:10:47.814 --> 01:10:48.916
stuff that the germans had

01:10:48.956 --> 01:10:50.216
in north africa just kind

01:10:50.256 --> 01:10:51.716
of you know way out in the

01:10:51.735 --> 01:10:53.256
deep desert in land rovers

01:10:53.957 --> 01:10:55.296
and people were like this seems like a

01:10:55.878 --> 01:10:56.319
the, the,

01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:57.680
what was called the long range

01:10:57.800 --> 01:10:58.880
desert expeditionary group.

01:10:58.979 --> 01:10:59.920
And then some people were like,

01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:02.081
what if we got you guys to

01:11:02.121 --> 01:11:03.001
jump out of planes?

01:11:03.881 --> 01:11:04.421
What about that?

01:11:05.181 --> 01:11:08.243
Uh, and it's just like, it's, it's, yeah,

01:11:08.283 --> 01:11:10.762
I mean, it's obviously like lightly,

01:11:10.983 --> 01:11:12.024
there's like a lot of, uh,

01:11:12.043 --> 01:11:12.583
what's it called?

01:11:12.984 --> 01:11:13.043
Um,

01:11:15.730 --> 01:11:17.612
There's a lot of, oh, print the myth,

01:11:17.771 --> 01:11:18.653
print the legend,

01:11:19.092 --> 01:11:21.234
don't necessarily print the real thing.

01:11:21.335 --> 01:11:23.055
But it's a fun series.

01:11:23.496 --> 01:11:24.176
You get to see a lot of

01:11:24.197 --> 01:11:25.198
stuff kind of blown up.

01:11:25.377 --> 01:11:27.219
There's a lot of, yeah.

01:11:27.458 --> 01:11:29.239
If you like a film like the

01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:30.621
one you've just described, I'm almost,

01:11:31.261 --> 01:11:33.682
to say like 80, 90% certainty,

01:11:33.844 --> 01:11:35.185
you probably want to see a bunch of

01:11:36.074 --> 01:11:37.376
very socially maladjusted

01:11:37.416 --> 01:11:38.417
British people stabbing

01:11:39.136 --> 01:11:40.158
German sentries in the

01:11:40.177 --> 01:11:41.899
middle of the night in North Africa going,

01:11:41.918 --> 01:11:42.800
oh, bloody hell.

01:11:43.180 --> 01:11:44.039
Oh, this one's a bleeder.

01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:45.480
That probably sounds like

01:11:45.501 --> 01:11:46.542
the sort of thing that you'd enjoy.

01:11:46.601 --> 01:11:49.184
So SAS Rogue Heroes, you should watch it.

01:11:51.305 --> 01:11:52.145
I'll put it on the list.

01:11:52.725 --> 01:11:53.426
There was another one on

01:11:53.487 --> 01:11:58.170
Netflix of similar vein to this as well.

01:11:58.189 --> 01:11:59.331
I can't remember what it was called.

01:12:01.351 --> 01:12:02.153
Any other blockchain news

01:12:02.193 --> 01:12:02.712
you want to talk about?

01:12:04.807 --> 01:12:06.770
I was trying to bring up the AA DAO thing,

01:12:06.810 --> 01:12:07.911
but I was actually just going to ask,

01:12:07.930 --> 01:12:08.671
does anyone know what the

01:12:08.792 --> 01:12:11.375
fuck is the deal with this AA DAO thing?

01:12:11.675 --> 01:12:13.136
I feel like Rama's got like

01:12:13.697 --> 01:12:16.899
a bit bent out of shape about the AA DAO.

01:12:16.979 --> 01:12:17.300
Really?

01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:17.780
You think?

01:12:18.180 --> 01:12:21.904
Is that true, Rama?

01:12:24.984 --> 01:12:30.207
I was trying to read this

01:12:30.307 --> 01:12:32.350
block of text and it just

01:12:32.369 --> 01:12:34.291
seemed like a fucking bent

01:12:34.411 --> 01:12:36.171
out of shape rant.

01:12:36.511 --> 01:12:37.672
He's typing with his fists.

01:12:38.853 --> 01:12:43.636
He's typing with a machine gun.

01:12:43.775 --> 01:12:44.697
I'm led to believe that

01:12:44.796 --> 01:12:45.697
fighting around the world

01:12:45.756 --> 01:12:47.037
is the Australian way, no?

01:12:50.739 --> 01:12:51.820
Like on a little tugboat?

01:12:52.501 --> 01:12:53.822
Yeah, that's the one.

01:12:55.798 --> 01:12:56.579
Come on, Tucker.

01:13:01.662 --> 01:13:03.264
Yeah, so can anyone explain that to me?

01:13:03.283 --> 01:13:04.185
Because I've read it three times.

01:13:04.284 --> 01:13:05.086
I still don't get it.

01:13:08.047 --> 01:13:09.068
So I don't know specifically

01:13:09.108 --> 01:13:09.748
what he's done,

01:13:09.828 --> 01:13:11.449
but so there's going to be an oversight.

01:13:11.689 --> 01:13:12.331
So there's currently an

01:13:12.350 --> 01:13:13.551
oversight committee for the AA DAO.

01:13:14.514 --> 01:13:14.993
If I remember correctly,

01:13:15.014 --> 01:13:16.095
there's two members right

01:13:16.135 --> 01:13:17.877
now and they want to elect a third.

01:13:17.936 --> 01:13:19.457
And the third is divided

01:13:19.538 --> 01:13:22.400
amongst a member of SG1,

01:13:23.761 --> 01:13:27.145
someone who is kind of outside of crypto.

01:13:27.244 --> 01:13:27.985
Who is it from SG1?

01:13:28.185 --> 01:13:29.967
Is it Tosh or is it... Clyde.

01:13:30.969 --> 01:13:32.789
Oh, there's more than two people in SG1.

01:13:33.110 --> 01:13:33.951
There's a third?

01:13:34.912 --> 01:13:36.814
I think there's several more now.

01:13:38.234 --> 01:13:38.435
And...

01:13:42.014 --> 01:13:43.335
someone called Cosmos Nanny.

01:13:43.354 --> 01:13:45.055
Her name was Grace, I believe.

01:13:45.996 --> 01:13:48.317
And so the request was

01:13:48.377 --> 01:13:50.557
everyone should abstain on

01:13:50.778 --> 01:13:51.759
the people you don't want

01:13:51.918 --> 01:13:52.958
and yes on the people you do.

01:13:54.399 --> 01:13:55.159
It goes without saying that

01:13:55.260 --> 01:13:56.720
SG-1 voted yes on themselves.

01:13:57.940 --> 01:13:58.801
But there's also a lot of

01:13:58.841 --> 01:14:00.682
drama around validators

01:14:00.703 --> 01:14:01.662
having just voted yes on

01:14:01.802 --> 01:14:03.123
all of them or no on all of

01:14:03.163 --> 01:14:04.484
them or abstain on all of them.

01:14:07.904 --> 01:14:08.664
So right now Clyde is

01:14:08.685 --> 01:14:10.086
winning because SG1 is like

01:14:10.086 --> 01:14:12.606
7% of the Cosmos Hub vote.

01:14:13.408 --> 01:14:16.009
Why abstain and not know?

01:14:17.770 --> 01:14:19.612
Is this a... And there's one

01:14:19.631 --> 01:14:20.412
winner for this, right?

01:14:20.431 --> 01:14:21.033
Is that what it is?

01:14:21.273 --> 01:14:21.632
Yeah.

01:14:21.653 --> 01:14:22.634
So three proposals.

01:14:22.934 --> 01:14:23.614
Three proposals.

01:14:23.715 --> 01:14:23.975
Yeah.

01:14:24.494 --> 01:14:25.836
So instead of implementing

01:14:25.855 --> 01:14:26.676
like a radio button,

01:14:26.896 --> 01:14:29.578
they have to vote separately on each one.

01:14:29.759 --> 01:14:31.399
Instead of just implementing

01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:32.319
a DAO structure where you

01:14:32.340 --> 01:14:32.921
could actually do a

01:14:32.961 --> 01:14:34.421
multi-select or a single select.

01:14:34.702 --> 01:14:35.402
We're in this situation.

01:14:35.421 --> 01:14:35.682
Exactly.

01:14:36.403 --> 01:14:37.002
That'd be wild.

01:14:37.283 --> 01:14:37.643
Crazy.

01:14:37.662 --> 01:14:38.703
That's fucking crazy.

01:14:38.764 --> 01:14:40.804
Let's use this antiquated

01:14:40.863 --> 01:14:41.823
governance process.

01:14:42.045 --> 01:14:43.185
I also love the fact that

01:14:43.204 --> 01:14:44.604
it's a blockchain, right?

01:14:44.664 --> 01:14:46.046
There's no governance structure.

01:14:46.065 --> 01:14:47.105
They can do whatever they

01:14:47.145 --> 01:14:48.206
want from a blank slate.

01:14:48.265 --> 01:14:49.506
And they're like, yeah,

01:14:49.546 --> 01:14:51.787
let's re-implement first past the post,

01:14:51.947 --> 01:14:54.087
the objectively, statistically,

01:14:54.148 --> 01:14:55.247
mathematically proven,

01:14:55.307 --> 01:14:56.667
socially dynamics proven

01:14:57.488 --> 01:14:59.569
sub-optimal voting strategy.

01:15:01.029 --> 01:15:02.289
They could just... You're just like...

01:15:03.802 --> 01:15:04.582
And then they're like, oh,

01:15:04.643 --> 01:15:06.163
and also let's let validators vote.

01:15:06.224 --> 01:15:06.644
Therefore,

01:15:06.663 --> 01:15:08.024
I'm invalidating the whole

01:15:08.904 --> 01:15:09.885
purpose of the procedure

01:15:09.904 --> 01:15:12.645
because you're basically just saying, yes,

01:15:12.826 --> 01:15:14.407
let's just have the ruling

01:15:14.426 --> 01:15:15.627
class elect themselves.

01:15:16.828 --> 01:15:17.148
So they,

01:15:17.448 --> 01:15:18.448
so I guess they're just going to

01:15:18.509 --> 01:15:19.269
count yeses, right?

01:15:19.309 --> 01:15:20.609
And the nos and abstains don't matter.

01:15:20.628 --> 01:15:21.810
Is that what the idea is here?

01:15:22.989 --> 01:15:23.729
So originally,

01:15:23.750 --> 01:15:24.770
it wasn't really planned for

01:15:24.810 --> 01:15:25.570
how they would handle it.

01:15:25.751 --> 01:15:26.912
There's instructions to vote

01:15:26.952 --> 01:15:28.152
abstain and no.

01:15:28.171 --> 01:15:28.832
Oh, I see.

01:15:28.851 --> 01:15:30.552
I don't remember if no provides anything.

01:15:31.412 --> 01:15:32.913
But part of the debate is at

01:15:32.934 --> 01:15:34.795
this point that people

01:15:34.814 --> 01:15:36.555
aren't following directions, right?

01:15:37.496 --> 01:15:39.556
Really, if everyone votes yes on someone,

01:15:39.697 --> 01:15:40.636
they should just not count

01:15:40.997 --> 01:15:42.137
those votes or if someone

01:15:42.177 --> 01:15:43.057
votes no on everything or

01:15:43.078 --> 01:15:44.698
if someone's abstain on everything.

01:15:44.719 --> 01:15:46.238
Yeah.

01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:47.899
Well,

01:15:47.939 --> 01:15:49.921
Matt Brown is by far has the most

01:15:49.940 --> 01:15:50.720
number of no votes.

01:15:52.243 --> 01:15:53.623
Grace has a few no votes and

01:15:54.264 --> 01:15:55.324
Clyde has very little,

01:15:55.385 --> 01:15:57.185
but it looks like Clyde

01:15:57.225 --> 01:15:58.945
Carver is leading the race at this point.

01:16:04.048 --> 01:16:04.988
So I think there's an issue

01:16:05.128 --> 01:16:07.329
in which he's also like part of a Dow.

01:16:07.430 --> 01:16:08.970
So it'll be like him perfect

01:16:09.051 --> 01:16:10.072
overseeing himself.

01:16:10.851 --> 01:16:11.692
If I remember correctly,

01:16:11.832 --> 01:16:12.592
there's something fun about

01:16:12.632 --> 01:16:13.432
that somewhere.

01:16:15.033 --> 01:16:15.774
This is one of those things

01:16:15.833 --> 01:16:17.375
where validators should not vote.

01:16:20.804 --> 01:16:23.206
100%.

01:16:21.064 --> 01:16:23.206
This should be 100% abstain.

01:16:23.305 --> 01:16:25.108
This should be 100%

01:16:25.108 --> 01:16:26.128
individual while it's voting.

01:16:26.649 --> 01:16:27.128
I mean,

01:16:27.310 --> 01:16:29.390
should validators even get to vote?

01:16:29.771 --> 01:16:30.011
I mean,

01:16:30.252 --> 01:16:31.832
this is a sh... I'm just talking...

01:16:31.853 --> 01:16:36.577
There's layers of... This

01:16:36.657 --> 01:16:37.597
shit cake has layers.

01:16:37.677 --> 01:16:38.297
I'm just saying,

01:16:38.398 --> 01:16:39.559
at this layer right here...

01:16:40.140 --> 01:16:41.341
Welcome to the layer cake, son.

01:16:41.769 --> 01:16:42.550
This is the layer cake.

01:16:42.930 --> 01:16:44.671
We'll go back to episode one.

01:16:44.692 --> 01:16:45.091
There we are.

01:16:45.131 --> 01:16:45.391
Bam.

01:16:45.671 --> 01:16:46.512
Stop the podcast.

01:16:46.552 --> 01:16:47.554
We can go home, lads.

01:16:48.175 --> 01:16:49.074
You know I'm a big proponent

01:16:49.095 --> 01:16:49.975
of Cosmos governance,

01:16:50.235 --> 01:16:51.516
and this is a good example of that.

01:16:52.518 --> 01:16:53.238
But anyway.

01:16:54.761 --> 01:16:56.582
I think you're on record, Serp,

01:16:56.622 --> 01:16:57.502
as saying several times,

01:16:57.703 --> 01:17:01.265
what we need is more Cosmos Gov.

01:17:01.386 --> 01:17:02.667
I think we should burn all

01:17:02.686 --> 01:17:03.988
these DAOs down and let's

01:17:04.007 --> 01:17:05.350
just do this for validators.

01:17:05.609 --> 01:17:08.171
Straight back.

01:17:08.311 --> 01:17:09.533
On chain voting,

01:17:10.793 --> 01:17:14.096
using Xgov like our forefathers did.

01:17:14.457 --> 01:17:16.878
Scrabbling in the dirt like animals.

01:17:17.859 --> 01:17:19.180
We should also make sure to

01:17:19.201 --> 01:17:21.141
not improve Xgov because

01:17:21.362 --> 01:17:23.083
then it would no longer be

01:17:25.233 --> 01:17:26.653
completely unbiased that

01:17:26.672 --> 01:17:28.014
would cause issues so it

01:17:28.054 --> 01:17:29.354
has to stay as the original

01:17:29.394 --> 01:17:30.895
constitution wrote it I

01:17:30.935 --> 01:17:32.074
mean luckily for you

01:17:32.274 --> 01:17:33.475
luckily for you you should

01:17:33.494 --> 01:17:35.395
see like in america you

01:17:35.416 --> 01:17:36.456
guys can amend the

01:17:36.515 --> 01:17:37.777
constitution because it's

01:17:37.817 --> 01:17:39.957
written in words which

01:17:40.077 --> 01:17:42.177
people can read and attempt

01:17:42.198 --> 01:17:43.537
to interpret and understand

01:17:44.257 --> 01:17:46.158
luckily for us in the cosmos

01:17:47.407 --> 01:17:48.849
xgov is written using the

01:17:48.889 --> 01:17:50.650
cosmos sdk which nobody

01:17:50.730 --> 01:17:53.354
understands and so nobody

01:17:53.974 --> 01:17:55.416
even knows I mean

01:17:55.555 --> 01:17:56.657
hypothetically we don't

01:17:56.676 --> 01:17:57.597
even know why it's still

01:17:57.637 --> 01:17:59.560
running we hypothetically

01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:00.822
it's been theorized that

01:18:00.862 --> 01:18:02.243
the original programmers

01:18:02.764 --> 01:18:04.465
did understand these runes

01:18:04.524 --> 01:18:05.587
that they were bashing in

01:18:06.527 --> 01:18:09.087
to what they're supposed to

01:18:09.127 --> 01:18:10.288
have told their spirit

01:18:10.328 --> 01:18:11.828
visions to a mystic gopher

01:18:11.889 --> 01:18:12.810
and it just fucking

01:18:12.970 --> 01:18:14.170
compiled some code for them.

01:18:14.590 --> 01:18:15.951
And that's how it works.

01:18:16.110 --> 01:18:19.431
And unfortunately, you know,

01:18:19.971 --> 01:18:22.774
in the great interchain wars,

01:18:22.854 --> 01:18:23.913
many of the developers were

01:18:23.953 --> 01:18:26.135
lost and we wait for a day

01:18:26.154 --> 01:18:27.836
when they'll come back to us.

01:18:28.636 --> 01:18:29.595
We wait for a day when they

01:18:29.636 --> 01:18:31.936
will come back to us in a

01:18:32.577 --> 01:18:34.158
cavalcade of angels from on high.

01:18:34.618 --> 01:18:37.460
with the chosen one, Jay, at their head,

01:18:38.779 --> 01:18:42.001
you know, to restore Xgov to the people.

01:18:42.020 --> 01:18:45.481
Which means the runes will

01:18:45.561 --> 01:18:47.863
once again glow a holy color.

01:18:48.483 --> 01:18:51.363
Exactly, that's the one.

01:18:51.404 --> 01:18:53.324
Holy color or holy shit, who knows?

01:18:56.542 --> 01:18:57.462
gonna be like a poppy day

01:18:57.481 --> 01:18:58.761
for cosmos or what yeah

01:18:58.782 --> 01:18:59.422
well you could just like

01:18:59.462 --> 01:19:01.023
fucking use uh dowd I mean

01:19:01.042 --> 01:19:01.783
that's the other solution

01:19:01.842 --> 01:19:03.103
right oh yeah yeah right

01:19:03.882 --> 01:19:04.944
yeah what you're gonna do

01:19:04.984 --> 01:19:05.923
you could use this broken

01:19:05.963 --> 01:19:06.904
ass piece of shit here that

01:19:06.923 --> 01:19:08.024
nobody fucking understands

01:19:08.083 --> 01:19:09.043
nobody maintains nobody

01:19:09.064 --> 01:19:11.744
does shit too or but you

01:19:11.765 --> 01:19:13.425
know it's kind of let's

01:19:13.444 --> 01:19:14.746
just ignore this governance

01:19:14.765 --> 01:19:18.746
thing I mean or plot twist

01:19:18.966 --> 01:19:19.907
option three you can just

01:19:19.987 --> 01:19:21.947
ignore the whole cosmos thing um

01:19:23.662 --> 01:19:23.983
You know,

01:19:24.663 --> 01:19:25.783
this makes me think we should

01:19:25.804 --> 01:19:26.725
probably have holidays in

01:19:26.765 --> 01:19:29.166
Cosmos where for 24 hours,

01:19:29.246 --> 01:19:30.627
the blockchain just stops.

01:19:31.207 --> 01:19:31.847
They all stop.

01:19:31.948 --> 01:19:33.287
And they all stop.

01:19:33.708 --> 01:19:35.750
And then everyone can take the day off.

01:19:36.109 --> 01:19:37.270
Well, like Labor Day or something,

01:19:37.310 --> 01:19:37.690
which is like,

01:19:37.711 --> 01:19:38.992
let's just bring them all down, boys.

01:19:39.572 --> 01:19:40.693
Yeah, exactly right.

01:19:41.412 --> 01:19:45.914
And then when people trade,

01:19:46.115 --> 01:19:47.376
they'll realize that all

01:19:47.395 --> 01:19:48.296
those trades are happening

01:19:48.457 --> 01:19:49.757
on those Postgres servers.

01:19:51.001 --> 01:19:52.842
You should do that on relayers.

01:19:53.023 --> 01:19:54.545
Relayers should just stop for one day.

01:19:54.564 --> 01:19:56.467
All relayers stop and they go,

01:19:56.847 --> 01:19:57.729
what the fuck happened?

01:19:57.809 --> 01:19:58.689
Yeah, bitches.

01:19:58.970 --> 01:19:59.952
That's what happens.

01:20:01.413 --> 01:20:02.835
The Tuesday before Thanksgiving.

01:20:02.854 --> 01:20:04.256
I was going to say,

01:20:04.317 --> 01:20:05.939
have you just shut it all

01:20:05.958 --> 01:20:06.739
down for one day?

01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:07.962
One day.

01:20:08.162 --> 01:20:08.743
Everything stops.

01:20:09.103 --> 01:20:09.904
All blockchains stop.

01:20:09.923 --> 01:20:10.604
We just shut it down.

01:20:11.293 --> 01:20:13.335
I could feel my beard growing bigger.

01:20:13.354 --> 01:20:16.935
No, wait, that would be Lenin.

01:20:17.476 --> 01:20:18.317
Marx was German.

01:20:18.377 --> 01:20:19.917
Why did I do the Lenin voice?

01:20:20.497 --> 01:20:23.059
Null can't get slashed on Kujira,

01:20:23.099 --> 01:20:23.800
whatever the fuck it is.

01:20:25.220 --> 01:20:26.140
Fucking Kujira.

01:20:26.400 --> 01:20:29.002
Have you refunded your slashies yet?

01:20:29.082 --> 01:20:30.202
The people you took a slash on?

01:20:31.023 --> 01:20:35.225
There is still not a fucking archive note.

01:20:36.085 --> 01:20:36.284
Dude.

01:20:37.113 --> 01:20:38.493
I think this fucking archive

01:20:38.514 --> 01:20:39.654
node is going back.

01:20:39.715 --> 01:20:41.694
I would love to.

01:20:41.914 --> 01:20:42.935
You're at a three-episode

01:20:42.954 --> 01:20:43.795
ban of talking about a

01:20:43.814 --> 01:20:45.376
Goodyear archive node.

01:20:45.515 --> 01:20:47.376
I just don't have an archive node.

01:20:48.275 --> 01:20:49.296
One, Goodyear archive node.

01:20:49.456 --> 01:20:52.457
Number two, Aptos VFN disk usage.

01:20:52.617 --> 01:20:54.197
Both those, three-episode ban.

01:20:57.018 --> 01:21:00.518
Hey, you know, if the DEXs were, like,

01:21:00.677 --> 01:21:02.899
well-constructed, like...

01:21:03.872 --> 01:21:06.452
a, uh, you know, stock exchange,

01:21:07.353 --> 01:21:09.792
you could actually have, so,

01:21:10.012 --> 01:21:12.793
so the way the stock

01:21:12.814 --> 01:21:16.293
exchanges work right is, is like the, uh,

01:21:16.634 --> 01:21:19.354
you know, your broker actually aggregates,

01:21:20.234 --> 01:21:20.414
um,

01:21:21.494 --> 01:21:25.916
sales before they execute them on the

01:21:26.036 --> 01:21:26.735
stock exchange.

01:21:27.395 --> 01:21:28.576
So before settlement,

01:21:28.615 --> 01:21:29.475
they actually do all their

01:21:29.515 --> 01:21:30.856
buys and sells internally

01:21:30.917 --> 01:21:32.436
and then settle on the exchange later.

01:21:33.322 --> 01:21:37.304
You could just do it like that, right?

01:21:37.323 --> 01:21:38.484
So you can go down for a day

01:21:38.545 --> 01:21:39.845
and just settle it later.

01:21:40.286 --> 01:21:41.225
Haven't you just literally

01:21:41.265 --> 01:21:43.186
described every shit chain

01:21:43.306 --> 01:21:45.167
L2 that just aggregates

01:21:45.207 --> 01:21:46.269
back up to Ethereum?

01:21:47.569 --> 01:21:48.949
Yeah, but they still have to be upright.

01:21:49.090 --> 01:21:50.610
You just do it in Cassandra.

01:21:51.091 --> 01:21:52.452
No, don't.

01:21:52.931 --> 01:21:53.953
They don't have to be up.

01:21:53.993 --> 01:21:54.934
They just have to produce

01:21:55.033 --> 01:21:56.094
Merkle roots or whatever

01:21:56.113 --> 01:21:57.595
the fuck it is they do and

01:21:57.614 --> 01:21:59.716
then write them to Ethereum

01:21:59.756 --> 01:22:00.275
at some point.

01:22:00.896 --> 01:22:01.056
No.

01:22:04.953 --> 01:22:05.814
The better way of thinking

01:22:06.055 --> 01:22:07.735
about it is that Ethereum

01:22:07.775 --> 01:22:09.216
is the sewer at the bottom.

01:22:10.818 --> 01:22:12.319
People poop their trades

01:22:12.418 --> 01:22:14.460
into an L2 and gradually it

01:22:14.500 --> 01:22:15.720
works its way through the plumbing.

01:22:16.242 --> 01:22:18.382
And the problem is you don't know.

01:22:18.403 --> 01:22:20.484
Yeah, whatever.

01:22:20.925 --> 01:22:21.085
Dude,

01:22:21.104 --> 01:22:26.748
the sewer doesn't have a gas fee of $75.

01:22:26.748 --> 01:22:28.130
Well, it's because of the tragedy.

01:22:28.189 --> 01:22:29.270
Imagine this guy down there

01:22:29.289 --> 01:22:29.850
with his shovel.

01:22:29.871 --> 01:22:30.171
He's like,

01:22:30.211 --> 01:22:31.612
I ain't working unless you give

01:22:31.652 --> 01:22:34.113
me that $75.

01:22:34.113 --> 01:22:37.314
You guys need to check.

01:22:37.416 --> 01:22:38.015
It does cost $75,

01:22:38.015 --> 01:22:39.416
more than $75 to clean up

01:22:39.456 --> 01:22:40.756
that fatberg when it all

01:22:40.777 --> 01:22:41.936
gets out of control, right?

01:22:43.557 --> 01:22:44.037
Every block.

01:22:45.759 --> 01:22:46.880
You know what?

01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:48.420
Actually, it is a good analogy.

01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:50.201
Because you know when Secret

01:22:50.220 --> 01:22:51.442
was slowing down and halting?

01:22:51.582 --> 01:22:52.822
That's like when people

01:22:52.862 --> 01:22:54.403
discover a fatberg in the sewers,

01:22:54.462 --> 01:22:54.722
isn't it?

01:22:56.573 --> 01:22:57.533
just like it's just too

01:22:57.613 --> 01:23:00.796
clogged calcium deposit and

01:23:01.416 --> 01:23:03.056
baby diapers I don't even

01:23:03.096 --> 01:23:04.818
want to google fatberg I'm

01:23:04.858 --> 01:23:07.920
just concerned we're not

01:23:07.979 --> 01:23:09.541
putting it in the um but

01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:10.521
you know when they tell you

01:23:10.662 --> 01:23:11.863
don't pour fat down the

01:23:11.922 --> 01:23:15.045
sink oh yeah yeah yeah

01:23:15.085 --> 01:23:17.805
don't do that the fat the

01:23:18.287 --> 01:23:19.868
fat finds the nappies that

01:23:19.908 --> 01:23:20.868
people also shouldn't have

01:23:20.908 --> 01:23:21.649
put in the sewer

01:23:23.307 --> 01:23:24.529
When people tell me not to

01:23:24.628 --> 01:23:25.868
pour fat down the sink,

01:23:25.929 --> 01:23:27.529
I consider that a challenge.

01:23:29.770 --> 01:23:31.391
There's a fatberg under your house.

01:23:31.891 --> 01:23:33.032
And when they, when they're like,

01:23:33.231 --> 01:23:35.153
where's the blockage in the sewer network,

01:23:35.172 --> 01:23:35.854
they're going to go to the

01:23:35.894 --> 01:23:36.753
bottom of your house and

01:23:36.793 --> 01:23:37.474
there's just going to be.

01:23:39.994 --> 01:23:41.536
I replaced the sewer on my

01:23:41.576 --> 01:23:42.796
house personally,

01:23:42.976 --> 01:23:44.157
and there was no fatberg in

01:23:44.197 --> 01:23:44.717
there anywhere.

01:23:47.338 --> 01:23:48.960
You replaced the sewer in your house,

01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:49.840
under your house.

01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:53.162
Well, it wasn't technically under my house,

01:23:53.202 --> 01:23:55.023
but it was adjacent to my house, yeah.

01:23:55.783 --> 01:23:59.024
Adjacent to your house, but... Yeah.

01:23:59.283 --> 01:23:59.484
What?

01:23:59.645 --> 01:24:01.204
They just put a pipe out the

01:24:01.244 --> 01:24:01.966
side of the house and just

01:24:02.006 --> 01:24:02.626
dump it in the field.

01:24:03.626 --> 01:24:04.306
Old houses, yeah,

01:24:04.367 --> 01:24:05.606
they just come out the side.

01:24:06.547 --> 01:24:07.948
There's no mains or anything else.

01:24:08.009 --> 01:24:09.128
Into the neighbor's yard.

01:24:10.170 --> 01:24:11.270
There's a fence.

01:24:11.829 --> 01:24:14.011
I love the way somebody's

01:24:14.070 --> 01:24:15.671
added to the show notes, Fatberg,

01:24:15.712 --> 01:24:17.412
and they spelled it like Pittsburgh.

01:24:17.432 --> 01:24:17.533
I did.

01:24:21.822 --> 01:24:25.104
Oh my God.

01:24:25.145 --> 01:24:26.305
Is there an American city called fat bag?

01:24:26.326 --> 01:24:26.886
I'm going to Google.

01:24:27.386 --> 01:24:27.846
There should be.

01:24:28.506 --> 01:24:28.908
Well, I put,

01:24:28.948 --> 01:24:30.729
I put a trademark on it just before,

01:24:30.908 --> 01:24:32.951
before only registers as a trademark.

01:24:37.148 --> 01:24:38.630
Coming soon, the Fatberg.

01:24:40.251 --> 01:24:41.091
Bootstrap Fatberg.

01:24:42.132 --> 01:24:42.953
Yeah, exactly.

01:24:43.113 --> 01:24:45.796
I just want to control it.

01:24:45.877 --> 01:24:45.997
See,

01:24:46.037 --> 01:24:47.439
I don't read the news anymore because

01:24:47.479 --> 01:24:48.500
I find it aggravating.

01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:50.122
And I tried to Google

01:24:50.162 --> 01:24:52.625
Fatberg as it was spelled in the thing.

01:24:52.685 --> 01:24:55.106
And it's instead just brought up the news.

01:24:55.925 --> 01:24:59.426
And in the UK national news at the moment,

01:24:59.447 --> 01:25:00.627
there is a Fatberg in the

01:25:00.667 --> 01:25:03.809
news because a Fatberg the

01:25:03.868 --> 01:25:05.529
size of three double-decker

01:25:05.550 --> 01:25:07.050
buses has been cleared from

01:25:07.090 --> 01:25:08.631
an East London sewer.

01:25:09.212 --> 01:25:09.752
There you go.

01:25:10.412 --> 01:25:16.675
Oh, there's no H. That's fucking... Hey,

01:25:16.875 --> 01:25:20.957
did you guys know that XRP

01:25:21.117 --> 01:25:24.319
is now going to be the savior of Evmos?

01:25:25.563 --> 01:25:25.943
Why is that?

01:25:25.962 --> 01:25:26.663
I did see that.

01:25:27.344 --> 01:25:28.645
So what exactly is that?

01:25:28.725 --> 01:25:30.246
I couldn't understand

01:25:30.286 --> 01:25:31.145
exactly what was going on.

01:25:33.046 --> 01:25:34.028
Oh, I don't know.

01:25:34.167 --> 01:25:35.427
It was a partnership announcement.

01:25:35.467 --> 01:25:36.389
Fuck knows what that means.

01:25:36.748 --> 01:25:38.109
But what does that mean, though?

01:25:39.890 --> 01:25:42.712
Like... I don't know.

01:25:42.832 --> 01:25:43.792
Tying their legs together?

01:25:43.972 --> 01:25:44.453
XRP?

01:25:44.493 --> 01:25:46.274
Like, why would XRP pick Chihuahua?

01:25:47.515 --> 01:25:49.456
I think that you're... Not Chihuahua.

01:25:49.576 --> 01:25:50.256
Oh, I'm sorry.

01:25:50.417 --> 01:25:51.216
That's a fucking...

01:25:56.234 --> 01:25:57.315
Sorry, Chihuahua.

01:25:57.435 --> 01:25:59.637
I insulted both of them at the same time.

01:25:59.677 --> 01:26:00.618
You didn't get the connection.

01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:03.560
It was related to a Jason conversation.

01:26:05.101 --> 01:26:05.983
You didn't get it.

01:26:06.042 --> 01:26:08.083
It's all right.

01:26:08.104 --> 01:26:11.266
So the biggest fatberg

01:26:12.146 --> 01:26:13.247
discovered in a London

01:26:13.307 --> 01:26:17.030
sewer was put on display as

01:26:17.110 --> 01:26:19.712
a museum exhibit at the Museum of London.

01:26:22.836 --> 01:26:24.377
That does not sound right.

01:26:25.527 --> 01:26:25.787
Wait,

01:26:25.886 --> 01:26:28.109
the Museum of London can exhibit

01:26:28.609 --> 01:26:29.329
local things?

01:26:30.470 --> 01:26:32.853
I thought it had to be taken

01:26:32.932 --> 01:26:34.113
from indigenous people.

01:26:34.734 --> 01:26:35.635
That's the British Museum.

01:26:37.595 --> 01:26:39.297
Ah, okay.

01:26:39.457 --> 01:26:40.798
The Museum of London is the

01:26:40.899 --> 01:26:41.800
City of London.

01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:43.801
I wasn't concentrating.

01:26:43.881 --> 01:26:45.261
It's not even Greater London,

01:26:45.282 --> 01:26:46.323
but it's the City of London.

01:26:46.363 --> 01:26:47.703
I'm pretty certain, anyway.

01:26:47.764 --> 01:26:50.586
I had a lapse of

01:26:50.685 --> 01:26:52.146
concentration there for a second.

01:26:52.847 --> 01:26:53.849
Did you just tell me

01:26:55.219 --> 01:26:56.338
that they're displaying the

01:26:56.399 --> 01:26:57.899
fatberg of size three

01:26:57.920 --> 01:26:59.619
double decker buses no it's

01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:00.800
even bigger than that the

01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:01.820
three double decker buses

01:27:01.841 --> 01:27:02.640
is just the news at the

01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:03.860
moment the fatberg that was

01:27:03.900 --> 01:27:08.221
displayed was 250 meters

01:27:08.301 --> 01:27:12.182
long and 130 tons oh my god

01:27:12.443 --> 01:27:13.444
how exactly do they

01:27:13.484 --> 01:27:15.264
transport that from underground

01:27:16.442 --> 01:27:17.662
I don't know.

01:27:17.682 --> 01:27:19.502
They have to break it up

01:27:19.563 --> 01:27:21.384
into chunks to get it out of the sewer.

01:27:21.823 --> 01:27:22.923
Out of a 1.5 meter sewer manhole?

01:27:23.043 --> 01:27:24.463
There's actually a long

01:27:24.845 --> 01:27:25.744
article about the

01:27:25.765 --> 01:27:26.725
historical significance

01:27:26.784 --> 01:27:28.886
contextualizing it within

01:27:28.905 --> 01:27:30.225
the architectural space of London.

01:27:41.349 --> 01:27:42.569
and also why it is on

01:27:42.729 --> 01:27:44.070
display and how members of

01:27:44.091 --> 01:27:44.990
the public are protected

01:27:45.011 --> 01:27:46.971
from what is toxic waste on

01:27:46.992 --> 01:27:47.832
the museum of london's

01:27:47.872 --> 01:27:49.833
website which you can read

01:27:49.894 --> 01:27:52.814
now on their blog

01:27:52.854 --> 01:27:55.516
historical historical turds

01:27:56.176 --> 01:27:58.097
mixed up in that fatberg

01:27:58.158 --> 01:27:59.458
like a bit of churchill

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turd bit of fleming turd

01:28:02.345 --> 01:28:04.448
So it was on display in 2018.

01:28:05.427 --> 01:28:06.828
It was on display in 2018.

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And then after its public

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display was added to the

01:28:10.110 --> 01:28:11.332
museum's permanent collection.

01:28:11.851 --> 01:28:12.431
The queen.

01:28:12.452 --> 01:28:17.435
I lost knowing DNA remnants

01:28:17.494 --> 01:28:18.895
of the queen are in that book.

01:28:20.756 --> 01:28:21.436
On display.

01:28:21.457 --> 01:28:23.057
Did you say 250 meters?

01:28:25.247 --> 01:28:26.186
BFC is it?

01:28:26.247 --> 01:28:28.427
Yeah, I invited him.

01:28:28.448 --> 01:28:28.988
250 meters?

01:28:30.189 --> 01:28:30.509
That's like,

01:28:31.469 --> 01:28:33.050
is that even larger than the

01:28:33.069 --> 01:28:33.369
whole museum?

01:28:33.390 --> 01:28:35.170
It's a quarter of a kilometer.

01:28:35.189 --> 01:28:38.030
Is that the whole back half just one giant,

01:28:39.171 --> 01:28:39.752
one log?

01:28:40.771 --> 01:28:41.972
Sure, then I'd just have a piece of it,

01:28:42.212 --> 01:28:43.353
like an intersection.

01:28:43.393 --> 01:28:45.033
You don't really need the whole thing,

01:28:45.073 --> 01:28:45.234
right?

01:28:47.354 --> 01:28:47.774
A slice.

01:28:48.707 --> 01:28:50.809
Oh, now I'm Googling this.

01:28:50.908 --> 01:28:51.890
All I'm saying is next time

01:28:51.909 --> 01:28:52.510
you go to London,

01:28:52.529 --> 01:28:53.171
you should check if it's

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still on display.

01:28:53.930 --> 01:28:55.030
Maybe go find out for yourself.

01:28:55.091 --> 01:28:55.752
Cause it seems to be a lot

01:28:55.771 --> 01:28:57.193
of interest and I'm not the

01:28:57.233 --> 01:28:58.372
curator of the museum in London.

01:28:58.393 --> 01:28:59.573
I can't answer these questions for you.

01:28:59.594 --> 01:29:00.333
Okay.

01:29:00.373 --> 01:29:02.114
We'll be there next month.

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So I'll give you some dates.