1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Hey there everybody and welcome back to another episode of Redeemed Through His Blood, Scott 2 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,400 Durfey here joined by Uncle David Durfey. 3 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,400 What's up Dave? 4 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,400 Oh, wow Scott. 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,520 I'm excited about this podcast. 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:34,960 You know Scott, I don't think there's, I don't know, I was just going to say I love talking 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,800 about faith in Jesus Christ. 8 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,000 I just don't know if there's anything more important. 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Really? 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:48,800 I think it's the one needful thing that he talked to Martha about in Luke chapter 10 11 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:57,080 is coming to know him, which is part of of of being able to have adequate faith in him. 12 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:02,280 Anyway, this is the, this is where kind of the rubber hits the road, Scott. 13 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,280 Yeah. 14 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:11,040 Last week we, last episode we had a kind of a good discussion on what faith is and starting 15 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,120 to move into even a deeper part of that today. 16 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,560 But you know, there's probably some things that we ought to recap. 17 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,320 Well, first of all, we are now talking about the conditional. 18 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:26,320 Yep. 19 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:29,120 The aspects of the atonement of Jesus Christ. 20 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:36,000 How do we conditionally receive the power of Jesus Christ through his atonement? 21 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:44,280 These are these blessings, these powers are conditional and that really is describing 22 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:49,480 the conditional blessings and aspects of the atonement of Jesus Christ. 23 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:57,520 And what Nephi describes in second Nephi chapter 31 and 32, which is the doctrine of Christ. 24 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:05,080 What we're really talking about now for the next several podcasts is the doctrine of Christ, 25 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:10,720 which is faith in Jesus Christ, repentance, baptism, receiving the Holy Ghost and enduring 26 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:11,800 to the end. 27 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:19,840 These, these are the conditional requirements on all of us to receive the power, the full 28 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,840 power of Jesus Christ through his atonement. 29 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:29,240 We spent, I don't know how many podcasts Scott talking about the unconditional blessings 30 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:35,960 of the atonement of Jesus Christ, which is unconditional for all of his children, all 31 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,200 of God's children. 32 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:44,240 We spoke of that and that should certainly lead us to gratitude and humility and the 33 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,800 gratitude and humility should give us desire to learn more and to draw closer to our heavenly 34 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,600 Father and to come to know his son Jesus Christ. 35 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:59,920 We've talked also Scott about faith in the general as we've moved into the doctrine of 36 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:00,920 Christ. 37 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:05,720 We've talked about faith in the general faith in our heavenly Father. 38 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,360 In fact, again, you can have faith in anything, there's false faith and there's true faith. 39 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:17,360 But faith in heavenly Father, Scott can do amazing things. 40 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:26,560 Mountains can be moved, miracles performed, people can be changed, miracles, miracles, 41 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,880 miracles, miracles, all because of our faith in our heavenly Father and the, the really 42 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,040 the power of prayer. 43 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:41,280 Faith in the general Scott is, I don't think I said this before, but I love what President 44 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:48,440 Eyring said about, about faith many, many years ago in a symposium that I was participating 45 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:54,920 in, in, it was a seminary and institute symposium. 46 00:03:54,920 --> 00:04:03,760 And he was a keynote speaker and he, he said, faith is not simply to know God could do something 47 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:12,040 faith is to know he will. 48 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,840 That's, that's a different level of faith. 49 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,000 And then let me just add to that. 50 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:23,120 So let me repeat that faith is not simply to know God could do something faith or we 51 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,920 could say the faith of power really faith is to know he will. 52 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:36,320 And I would add, because you know his will, if you know the will of God by revelation, 53 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:42,240 I mean, to really exercise the power of faith, we didn't use that word in our last podcast, 54 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:49,360 but to really exercise the power of faith, one must have the Holy Ghost and receive revelation 55 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:55,760 to know the will of God because once you know the will of God and you speak it or you requested 56 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:03,560 or you seek to carry it out, Scott, it will happen and miracles will take place. 57 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:10,360 Well, you talk about, you know, receiving that revelation and acting on that. 58 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:16,000 And, you know, that's just kind of at first glance that may seem difficult, you know, 59 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,600 that may I got to receive revelation. 60 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,600 I've got to go have this experience, etc. 61 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,040 It's not that hard. 62 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:27,760 We have the tools that we need to have that revelation through conference talks, through 63 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,800 the addresses of the brethren, through the scriptures. 64 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:36,520 So you know, to learn and understand the will of the Lord for and in behalf of us and in 65 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,120 our lives is just not that. 66 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:44,760 I mean, it can be, it can require some effort and it can require, especially as we get into 67 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:51,000 some of the more deep and important decisions in our life, etc. 68 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:57,200 But generally speaking, you know, we have some really good direction in knowing what 69 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,960 is the will of the Lord. 70 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,320 True, Scott, really true. 71 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,320 Thank you. 72 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:08,040 And when we give priesthood blessings in the church or we receive priesthood blessings 73 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:15,120 or when we pray and we ask and we seek and we knock, you know, we should pray by the 74 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,600 Spirit and we should know by the Spirit. 75 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:23,640 This is doctrine, covenants section 46, the great revelation and section on the gifts 76 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:24,760 of the spirit. 77 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:33,300 When we pray by the Spirit and we give blessings by the Spirit, we know what to pray for. 78 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:35,200 We know what to ask for. 79 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,800 We know what to bless individuals with. 80 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,720 And if I can just say this, Scott, we didn't talk about this either. 81 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:48,320 We didn't use this term, but I love this term, which is in Alma chapter five and in in Ether 82 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,820 chapter 12. 83 00:06:49,820 --> 00:06:56,200 And it's really unique to the this phrase into the Book of Mormon in those two chapters, 84 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,480 the eye of faith. 85 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:07,120 When when you have the Holy Ghost and revelation and the spirit as you pray, as you seek to 86 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:14,480 know the will of God and to carry it out and to receive miracles in your life, Scott, 87 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:20,240 believing is seeing. 88 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Faith is actually seeing it happen before it happens. 89 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,640 That is an eye of faith and that requires great revelation. 90 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:39,360 And I there's some work involved in receiving that gift, which the eye of faith, I think 91 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:45,520 is one of the greatest gifts we can ever receive in this life to actually even with an eye 92 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:52,240 of faith, Scott, we can see ourselves glorified. 93 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,000 We can see ourselves. 94 00:07:54,000 --> 00:08:02,160 I've I've just experienced this giving patriarchal blessings that with an eye of faith in preparing 95 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,640 to give patriarchal blessings. 96 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,520 I've seen individuals. 97 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,920 I've seen them present their families to Jesus Christ. 98 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,400 It is second coming. 99 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,080 I've seen individuals come forth in the morning of the first. 100 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,560 Those aren't just words. 101 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:23,120 I don't know how it works for other patriarchs, but it's like I can close my eyes before I 102 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:29,920 ever lay my hands on individuals heads to give them a patriarchal blessing and I can 103 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,360 see things. 104 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:37,240 And I know that's really sacred. 105 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:46,640 I know that's personal and spiritual, but the eye of faith, Scott, is a really precious, 106 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,920 sacred gift of the spirit that we should all seek for. 107 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:56,440 I mean, just just think about this for a minute because I was kind of in the daldrums, you 108 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:04,240 know, in our last podcast because of my son, Isaac and, you know, his challenges and but 109 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:10,880 it just think if I could see if I could see him the way God sees him. 110 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,120 If with an eye of faith, I could see him the way God sees him. 111 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:23,600 Think of how things could change in my attitudes and in my actions, even towards him in my 112 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,960 attitudes and my feelings. 113 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,200 If we could see our children the way God sees them, if we could see our situation the way 114 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:40,160 God sees it, if we could get a glimpse, Scott, with an eye of faith, the end from the beginning. 115 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:49,240 I know that that's, you know, that's God sees all things from beginning to the end and he 116 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,160 sees the end from the beginning. 117 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,560 And that's why he's never worried or fearful. 118 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:56,880 He knows how it's going to turn out. 119 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,360 And that's why I don't think he's too worried about my kids or your kids. 120 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,360 I think he knows how it's going to turn out. 121 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,200 But we should seek that. 122 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,280 And I know that that can, I know that that can happen. 123 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:17,600 I had my dear, my dear Japanese friend, Brother Fujita, who had a son who he was so worried 124 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,040 about who was really in a lot of trouble. 125 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,640 This is when I was their bishop in Minnesota. 126 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:30,040 And he was so worried and concerned about this, this son and praying about him and seeking 127 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:36,640 to know the will of God for his son in the, in the celestial room in the Chicago temple, 128 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,520 Chicago, Illinois temple. 129 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,760 And he had this impression to look up. 130 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:50,720 Then he looked towards the veil of the temple and he saw his son coming through the veil 131 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,960 of the temple dressed in the robes of the priesthood. 132 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,680 He saw Scott and this was like a vision for him. 133 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:04,040 He saw his son with an eye of faith. 134 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:09,560 And he told me I've, I've never been afraid for him since. 135 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:16,320 I've never really, I mean, you always worry about your children and you don't want your 136 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,200 children to experience pain, even if you know how they're going to turn out. 137 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,680 It's painful to watch them to suffer. 138 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:30,920 But he knew where his son, his son, Sam was going to be and how things were going to turn 139 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:31,920 out. 140 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:38,080 That's, that's such a tremendous gift that we should all seek for. 141 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:44,200 And not just for our children or for those we love Scott, but for ourselves. 142 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,120 I think how that would change you, me, all of us. 143 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:57,320 If we could see ourselves the way God sees us and how we're going to turn out, what gifts 144 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:02,560 and blessings and glories he has prepared for us. 145 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:09,040 Oh, if we could just get a glimpse, Scott, that the eye of faith, it's a, it's a powerful, 146 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,320 powerful gift that I hope we can all seek. 147 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,680 Well, you've just shared a couple of experiences, one, a sacred experience, you know, that sometime 148 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:20,800 in you didn't get any details or anything personal, but sometimes you have seen through 149 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:26,240 an eye of faith as a patriarch performing patriarchal blessings for folks that you've 150 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,360 been able to see things. 151 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,520 You just shared about your friend seeing because through an eye of faith, his son coming through 152 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,640 the veil dressed in the robes of the Holy priesthood. 153 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:39,520 So the question is, and I know that we have, we have listeners who are wondering this, 154 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,520 well, that's great, but where do I start? 155 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,960 How do I develop that eye of faith? 156 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,240 So what would you say if somebody were to ask you that question? 157 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:52,800 Well, I think we answered a lot of that question in the last podcast, you know, that it, I 158 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,560 think it really begins with the desire and the need. 159 00:12:57,560 --> 00:13:01,720 Desire gratitude is the beginning of desire. 160 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:07,080 Sometimes tribulations and afflictions can bring on great humility, great humility, and 161 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,680 it's better. 162 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:13,840 It's awesome that you're compelled to be humble and repelled to be humble by a wayward son 163 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:19,520 or daughter or and we get that example from the Zora mites and or by even abuse in our 164 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,520 own life. 165 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,080 Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's horrific. 166 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,080 It's terrible. 167 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:33,800 It's awful when individuals are abused, but whatever happens in our life and all of the 168 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:40,000 bad things that happen in our life, Scott should, should help us to be humble and to 169 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:47,000 recognize a need, the utter complete need we have for a Savior and Redeemer. 170 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,480 But the best way to become humble. 171 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,760 So humility is, I think, where it starts and gratitude. 172 00:13:54,760 --> 00:14:02,360 But humility comes best and most powerfully and in its purest form, it comes best through 173 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,280 receiving the word. 174 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:11,880 That's by the word that we become humble and that word is Jesus Christ. 175 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,600 So when he says, come on to me, that's an invitation for us to begin that process. 176 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:17,880 And we've talked about that. 177 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:18,960 And where is he? 178 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:19,960 And where is he? 179 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,400 And yeah, he says, come on to me. 180 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,400 Where is he? 181 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,400 On the mountain in the temple? 182 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,240 No, all those things are great, but where is he? 183 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,600 He's in the Garden of Gethsemane suffering for the sins of the world, which humbles me 184 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:37,240 every poor and then concluding that in Elder Holland tells us that we worship the suffering 185 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,240 Christ. 186 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,240 And so where did he suffer? 187 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,680 He suffered in the Garden and at Golgotha. 188 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:47,560 That was, you know, we, Deb and I just a few weeks ago were there and, and I've talked 189 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,400 to actually a couple of friends that were there. 190 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,960 We didn't know that they were going right after us. 191 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,760 Actually one of them I was having this conversation with, he's also a member of Alcoholics Anonymous 192 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,200 and it was Saturday night after a meeting and he came up and his wife actually said, 193 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,000 were you guys just in Israel? 194 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:09,760 And then we talked about how our lives had been enhanced, changed maybe two, but enhancements 195 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:15,760 changed because we had been there because being there, Dave, caused for me to have such 196 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:22,600 deep con more a deeper contemplation, perhaps, and maybe I'd had before to be where he actually 197 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:23,600 suffered. 198 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:30,960 So when I go now, I actually have a body learning, a, an experience where I can go when he says, 199 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,440 come unto me, I can go back to those places in my mind and in my heart. 200 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:41,280 Well, as wonderful as it is for you and for others who have been to Israel to be able 201 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,600 to literally picture those things in your mind. 202 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,400 It's not necessary though. 203 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:57,640 And I, a true eye of faith, right, and transport us to those places in even a more pure, clear, 204 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,240 more powerful way. 205 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:04,600 I mean, how many people have been to Israel, but they never have the eye of faith. 206 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,200 The eye of faith can take us there. 207 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:13,600 We can be transported there and we can stand at the foot of the cross and we can get a 208 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:22,640 glimpse of, of him bleeding from every poor and yes, Semine, and we can hear him cry out 209 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,980 with an eye of faith and the ear of faith. 210 00:16:25,980 --> 00:16:32,920 We can hear him cry out, my God, my God, why has thou forsaken me? 211 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:40,080 We can see him and we can hear him when he invites all twenty five hundred of the those 212 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:47,040 in bountiful to come forth and to thrust their hand into his side and feel the prince of 213 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,480 the nails in his hands and his feet. 214 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:57,120 We can, we can see him stop in the busy streets of Jerusalem and and he asked who, who, who 215 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:04,240 just touched me and he then tells that woman with the issue of blood who was immediately 216 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,920 healed because she touched the Savior because of her faith in him. 217 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:14,240 And he not only heals her, but he pronounces her whole. 218 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:23,000 You know, through an eye of faith, God, as we, as we study his life, we review his, his 219 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,000 teachings. 220 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,440 Well, not just review. 221 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:31,840 We, we search, we treasure, we feast on his teachings and his word. 222 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:38,040 We become humble and we can be transported to those, to those places with an eye of faith. 223 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:45,120 And when that happens, wow, we have great, we have the power of faith, which is more 224 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:52,040 than just the idea that Jesus Christ suffered for us, which is more than just the, the understanding 225 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:57,280 of his character attributes and perfections. 226 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:06,680 But then we have this desire and this power to be able to know that the course of the 227 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:16,280 life that we're pursuing is pleasing to him because we are with him because the thoughts 228 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:22,800 and the intense of our hearts are always with him. 229 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,560 That we're praying always in gratitude. 230 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:32,200 I can't believe how many times that's in the scriptures and I've pondered so many times. 231 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,360 What does that really mean to pray always? 232 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:36,920 To always remember him. 233 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:43,200 That's what it means as we make covenant to do every Sunday to always remember him, to 234 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,000 look unto me hit the invitation, right? 235 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:53,040 I'm impressed how many times that's been quoted in general conference lately, the last few 236 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,880 years. 237 00:18:54,880 --> 00:19:02,440 Look unto me in every thought, doubt not fear not. 238 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:11,880 Those are great statements of how we can obtain greater faith in Jesus Christ and his atonement. 239 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,000 So well, you know, you got to finish that, you know, look unto me in every thought. 240 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,840 Yeah, doubt not fear not. 241 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:18,840 And that's important. 242 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,080 And then it's easy to read. 243 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,760 But 37 that's so that's verse 36 of the doctrine covenant section six. 244 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,880 But 37 says, and this is where it is because, you know, looking unto him and every thought 245 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,160 where is he is fine, right? 246 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,160 And here's where he is. 247 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:39,640 Behold, the wounds which pierced my side and also the Prince of the nails in my hands and 248 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:40,640 feet. 249 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,640 Right. 250 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,760 Be faithful and keep my commandments and ye shall inherit the kingdom of heaven. 251 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:51,360 Well if we would look unto him in every thought, and we did behold the wounds, and we did, 252 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:55,520 you know, behold the wounds in his side and the Prince of the nails and his hands and feet, 253 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,880 we would keep his commandments. 254 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,760 We'd have the faith to keep his commandments. 255 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:08,560 So anyway, that's, that's just kind of an overview, I guess, Scott of where we've been 256 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,520 and kind of where we are. 257 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,200 And now let's talk a little bit about today. 258 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:22,000 And what I really wanted to kind of talk about today was the difference between faith in Jesus 259 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:28,080 Christ and faith in the name of Jesus Christ. 260 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:35,880 I hope our listeners after maybe listening to this will begin immediately to begin to 261 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:42,440 notice how many times in the scriptures, dozens and dozens, how many times in the scriptures 262 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:51,480 it talks about faith in the name of Jesus Christ or faith on his name and how many times 263 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,040 that's in the scriptures over and over again. 264 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:02,280 And as you think about that, I think that we should all just pause and ponder and appreciate 265 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:09,400 the difference between what it means to have faith in Jesus Christ, which is powerful, 266 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:15,720 and faith in the name of Jesus Christ, which is exalting. 267 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:22,960 I first became really sensitive to this, Scott, when just kind of serendipitously I came across 268 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:30,160 the book called In His Holy Name, or maybe it's just His Holy Name. 269 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,760 Yeah, okay. 270 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:37,800 Yeah, you just held it up because I mentioned this last year in our previous... 271 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Yeah, yeah. 272 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,760 When you mentioned this, I went and found it. 273 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,920 It's a short little book. 274 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,720 And I have absolutely fallen in love with this short little book. 275 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,840 And I found it in Walmart of all places. 276 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,200 I found it on Amazon. 277 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,200 It's available. 278 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,560 Well, I saw that in Walmart in the year 1998. 279 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:01,400 I think that's about the year it was written in Rexburg, Idaho. 280 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:08,760 I was there for a leadership conference and just had some free time one evening and went 281 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,760 down there. 282 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,000 When was the first edition? 283 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,440 Yeah, you get a pretty good memory for an old guy. 284 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,440 Is it 1998? 285 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,440 It is 1998. 286 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,440 Yeah, yeah. 287 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:21,200 That's when I was in Rexburg, Idaho for a leadership conference and that book was there 288 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,280 and I'd never seen it before, never heard of it. 289 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,320 And it was a short little book and so I purchased it. 290 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,560 I went home that night and had some time and began to read it. 291 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,560 I couldn't put it down. 292 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,000 I read it all that night. 293 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,800 And Scott, it had a profound effect on my life. 294 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,880 It still has a profound effect on my life. 295 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,000 And so let me just tell you a little bit about it. 296 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,760 It's written by Elder Oakes, now President Oakes. 297 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:52,960 He talks about that when he was called as an apostle in 1984 that he had gone to the 298 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:58,240 scriptures to find out his responsibilities on what it means to be an apostle. 299 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:05,320 And he went to section 107, verse 23, Scott, and it says in section, we should read that 300 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,320 maybe. 301 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,400 I got it. 302 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,280 I can paraphrase it, but let's just read it. 303 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:17,800 Section 107, verse 23, when it talks about being a special witness, not just of Jesus, 304 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,640 but it talks about being a special witness of the name of Jesus. 305 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:29,200 107, verse 23, the 12 traveling counselors are called to be the 12 apostles or special 306 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:36,800 witnesses of the name of Christ in all the world, thus differing from other officers 307 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,920 in the church in their duties of their calling. 308 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:48,600 Okay, so he said that when he read that verse, the spirit came over him and he thought to 309 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:55,960 himself, I'm sure this was by revelation, he thought to himself, okay, I think I know 310 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:02,560 what it means to be a special witness of Jesus Christ, but I have no idea what it means to 311 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:09,000 be a special witness of the name of Jesus Christ to all the world. 312 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:19,840 And so he writes in his introduction to this, this life changing book, his holy name. 313 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:31,640 He writes, so this book is a culmination of my 10 years of research of what it means to 314 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,760 be a special witness of his name of his holy name. 315 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,880 Oh, wow, that got my attention. 316 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,000 I read that introduction actually in Walmart because I didn't want to buy another book 317 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,880 that was just a compilation of, you know, their conference talks that they've already 318 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,880 given. 319 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,560 And when I read this introduction in his book, I thought, I got to have this. 320 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:03,240 So anyway, 10 years, Scott, he said that he looked up every verse of scripture that talked 321 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,160 about the name of God. 322 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:10,240 I think I'm reading the preface right now, or at least parts of it. 323 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,600 And I find this interesting too. 324 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:18,440 He says, with illumination from the Holy Spirit, it has grown his understanding of what the 325 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,960 revelation, the meaning and significance of scripture references to the holy name of 326 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,200 Jesus Christ. 327 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:29,080 So with illumination from the Holy Spirit, it has grown line upon line, precept upon 328 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,080 precept. 329 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,080 But even now, I find this really interesting. 330 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:38,040 After 10 years of research and from an apostle and after reading every verse in the Holy 331 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,880 Scriptures, but even now it only scratches the surface of the subject that is deep and 332 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,880 important. 333 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,600 He ended up giving a whole conference talk on this, Scott, about what it what it means 334 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,040 to take upon ourselves the name of Jesus. 335 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:58,000 And he uses the sacrament prayer, you know, that that they are willing that they are willing 336 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,480 to take upon themselves the name of Jesus Christ in this. 337 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,680 You know, we say that in the sacrament prayer on the bread. 338 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,040 And he gave a whole talk on that. 339 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:14,120 And the elder Ben Nars giving a conference talk on this as well. 340 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:21,920 But for some reason, it doesn't seem to have, I don't know, it just seems like we don't 341 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:28,120 put as much emphasis on it as we should, or that we really understand the difference. 342 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:29,800 Well, and I think that's why I don't. 343 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,960 I think that there's a lack of emphasis because there's a lack of understanding as to what 344 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:39,160 it means is so easy to default to the things that are easy for us to understand that sometimes 345 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,520 the things that are a little that require a little more effort and work on our part 346 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,720 become a little more difficult because of that. 347 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,960 Well I think that's true. 348 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:53,800 And I also think that it's a really sacred, yeah, and a really sensitive subject. 349 00:26:53,800 --> 00:27:01,440 And they're really careful how they talk about it and frankly, you know, they don't 350 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,840 want to cast pearls before swine. 351 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:11,880 And it really is a sacred subject and I hope that we can talk about it and treat it that 352 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,800 way as we do for the rest of this podcast. 353 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:23,200 But anyway, so let's talk about the difference between faith in Christ and faith in the name 354 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,200 of Christ. 355 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,520 I know that kind of the one of the conclusions I think that Elder Oaks makes in his last chapter 356 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:35,960 of his book is that, hey, there are so many great Christians in this world who to some 357 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:42,920 degree experience salvation and forgiveness and the blessings of Jesus Christ in their 358 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,920 life. 359 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,400 There can be no doubt about that. 360 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:52,000 And there are so many people who have a great powerful faith in Jesus Christ and receive 361 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,880 so many blessings in their life from that Scott. 362 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:04,720 But the difference between other Christians and the Church of Jesus Christ, Latter-day 363 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:12,800 Saints is that we believe that you are saved by faith in Jesus Christ and that you are 364 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:21,320 exalted by faith in the name of Jesus Christ. 365 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:29,120 Many years ago, Scott, I was reading a the new King James version of the Bible and this 366 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:34,800 is a book I love to read and study because it has some commentary and lots of footnotes. 367 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:41,960 And I was reading a scripture in Acts that talks about in the name and the name of Jesus 368 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:49,160 Christ and in the footnote it said that faith in the name of Jesus Christ is faith in the 369 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,880 ordinances. 370 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:57,920 I mean so this is not this idea is not completely unique to us. 371 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:07,040 But in the restored gospel of Jesus Christ, we understand by revelation section 84 verses 372 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,080 20 through 22. 373 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,440 Scott, we should probably turn to the nose. 374 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,560 I know I think this is probably elder Bednar's one of his favorite passages of scripture 375 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,160 because I've heard him quote it so many times. 376 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:24,640 But we read about the power of godliness and the ordinances thereof. 377 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,800 Why don't you start with 19, Scott? 378 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:33,760 Section 84 verse 19 and let's just talk about this because it has a direct impact on what 379 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,400 it means to have faith in the name of Jesus Christ. 380 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,400 Section 84 verse 19 through about 22. 381 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:47,720 And this greater priesthood administereth the gospel and holdeth the key of the mysteries 382 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,840 of the kingdom, even the key of the knowledge of God. 383 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:57,360 Therefore, in the ordinances thereof, the power of godliness is manifest. 384 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,760 And without the ordinances thereof and the authority of the priesthood, the power of 385 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,360 godliness is not manifest unto men in the flesh. 386 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:13,400 Therefore without this no man can see the face of God, even the Father, and live. 387 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:23,600 And we could say reside in his presence and be exalted in his presence. 388 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:29,200 So the power of godliness is manifest through the ordinances. 389 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:36,440 And it's through the ordinances, Scott, of the holy temple where we take upon ourselves 390 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:44,040 the name of Jesus Christ in even a more significant way than we take upon ourselves the name of 391 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,240 Jesus Christ by being baptized. 392 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,080 I mean, when we're baptized, we become the children of Christ, right? 393 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,640 That's Mosiah chapter 3 verse 7, Scott. 394 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:01,040 Mosiah, I'll turn there real quick and, or I'm sorry, Mosiah 5 verse 7. 395 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,560 In Mosiah 5, 7 I'm there. 396 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:11,600 And now because of the covenant which he have made, this is the covenant of baptism, ye 397 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,320 shall be called the children of Christ, his sons and daughters. 398 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,360 For behold this day he has spiritually begotten you. 399 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:28,760 For ye say that your hearts are changed, get this, Scott, through faith on his name. 400 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,080 Faith on his name. 401 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,040 Therefore ye are born of him and have become his sons and his daughters. 402 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,800 Through an ordinance, through faith on his name and acting on that faith in his name, 403 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,720 we participate in ordinances. 404 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:49,160 And the ordinance of baptism makes us the sons and daughters of Jesus Christ. 405 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:57,680 We become the children of Christ, or we could say the children of the covenant of Christ. 406 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:04,080 But Scott, when we go to the Holy Temple, we take upon ourselves higher, even higher 407 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,440 ordinances. 408 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:12,080 The ordinance of baptism is really presided over by the power of the lesser priesthood 409 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,080 or the ironic priesthood. 410 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:21,560 And that's important to understand the distinction between the two. 411 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:29,680 But the higher priesthood, as we read in section 84, to minister in the mysteries of godliness 412 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:35,640 and receive the highest ordinances of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ and participate 413 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,040 in the temple ordinances. 414 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:51,000 We go from being the children of Christ to being joint heirs with Christ. 415 00:32:51,000 --> 00:33:01,720 That's not only a higher power, that's a more sacred, deeper, more significant relationship. 416 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:07,400 And in the sacrament prayers, when we say, I mean we're already baptized, but when we 417 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:13,720 say in the sacrament prayer that we make this covenant and that we participate in the sacrament 418 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:22,040 as a witness, that we are willing to take upon ourselves the name of Jesus Christ. 419 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:30,400 As Elder Bednar has taught so clearly in a conference talk, I think, called in standing 420 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,560 and good standing. 421 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:40,880 He talks about this, that the sacrament prayer points us to the temple. 422 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,800 Participating in the ordinances of the sacrament should lead us to the temple. 423 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:52,080 And Scott, when we participate in the sacrament, we are renewing all our covenants, not just 424 00:33:52,080 --> 00:34:00,000 baptism, but we are renewing all the covenants that we have received, including the highest 425 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,800 ordinance and covenant of celestial marriage. 426 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:10,840 I don't know, I just, when people to partake of the sacrament, they should definitely contemplate 427 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:17,600 their baptismal covenants, but they should also be pondering their temple covenants and 428 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,960 ordinances. 429 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:28,200 And all of that, Scott, is what it means to have faith in the name of Jesus Christ. 430 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,280 We don't just believe in Jesus, we don't just believe that he has redeemed us, that 431 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,520 he saved us, and that's powerful. 432 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:41,560 And that is such a blessing and a miracle and saving to all of us. 433 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,800 The talk that you're looking for by Elder Bednar is called Honorably Hold the Name and 434 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,800 Standing. 435 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,800 Okay, thank you. 436 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,560 Honorably Hold the Name and Standing. 437 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,560 And he really gets in. 438 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,720 Which comes from a verse of Scripture in Dr. Incumbent, section 109, The Dedication on 439 00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:57,720 the Current Land Temple. 440 00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:02,280 So, you know, he gets into that a lot. 441 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:08,240 I remember being counseled by a member of his state presidency many, many years ago. 442 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:13,760 This was given in 2014, and so, you know, nine years ago this was delivered. 443 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:22,560 But the neat thing about this is the opportunity to hear, again, a witness of the name, Elder 444 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:28,960 Bednar, talk about honorably holding a name and a standing, and what all that means to 445 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,480 draw us closer to our Heavenly Father. 446 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:37,000 In fact, in a completion of the conditional blessings that come through the Atonement 447 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,760 of Jesus Christ, we just read in Mosiah where we become his sons and his daughters, right? 448 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaking of Jesus Christ, faith on his name, therefore you are born of him and have become 449 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,680 his sons and his daughters. 450 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,960 And then, you know, there's a footnote right there in 7 where it says, sons, there's a 451 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,480 footnote D that takes us to Dr. Incumbent, section 11, verse 30. 452 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,720 And I'm just going to read that quickly. 453 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:04,120 It says, but very, very, I say unto you that as many receive me, them I will give power 454 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:10,880 to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on my name. 455 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:17,960 So that, you know, the intensity that comes not just from becoming children of and sons 456 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:23,040 of Christ, but this says that they will become the sons of God, even to them that believe 457 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,520 on my name, whose name Jesus Christ, right? 458 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,120 And so we become the sons of God also through this. 459 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,120 Yeah. 460 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:38,600 Well, all of that's what it means to have faith in the name of Jesus Christ. 461 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:46,280 In Dr. Incumbent, section 3, I think it's the last verse, God, I'm section 3 and 10 462 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:54,640 or sections where Joseph Smith was somewhat chastised, not somewhat, but severely, I guess, 463 00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:00,440 chastised for losing the, for the lost 116 pages of the Book of Mormon. 464 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:07,880 But I think this is really instructive in the very last verse of section 3. 465 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,240 I'm going to pick it up in the middle of the verse. 466 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:17,520 He talks about the importance of the Book of Mormon and the importance of the restoration 467 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,520 really. 468 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:27,760 He says that they might know the promises of the Lord and promises, I would say, covenants, 469 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:34,560 that they might know and I would say, see the promises of the Lord, that they may believe 470 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,120 the gospel and rely upon the merits of Jesus Christ. 471 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,440 This is the purpose of the Book of Mormon, Scott, that they might believe the gospel 472 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:51,800 and rely upon the merits of Jesus Christ and be glorified. 473 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:59,120 We could replace that word with exalted and be glorified or exalted through faith in 474 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:06,320 his name and that through their repentance, they might be saved. 475 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:12,720 Well, faith in Jesus Christ is powerful. 476 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:19,000 Faith in the name of Jesus Christ is exalting. 477 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,960 It glorifies us. 478 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:29,320 I am so thankful for the blessings of the restored gospel and the restored ordinances and covenants 479 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,200 of the gospel of Jesus Christ. 480 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:39,480 They are sacred and the Book of Mormon, I think if people were more careful how we read 481 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,280 all of the scriptures, actually not just the Book of Mormon, but the Old New Testament, 482 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:50,760 we could see the powers of the mysteries of godliness and of the ordinances in all of 483 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,760 the scriptures. 484 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:57,000 When it talks about the robes of righteousness, I think about the temple and it talks about 485 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,520 the palms of his hands, I think about the temple and it talks about Jesus Christ as 486 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,400 the veil, I think about in Hebrews, I think about the temple. 487 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:15,240 I mean, really, we shouldn't read the scriptures hardly ever without seeing temple and ordinances 488 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:24,160 and understand that all of this is part of what it means to have faith in his name or 489 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,840 faith on his name. 490 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:39,280 So my prayer for all of us today and always is to just understand and it's not, it's, 491 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,280 Scott, I don't want to be fanatical about this. 492 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:49,440 I mean, I know faith in Jesus Christ is the first principle of the gospel and I know that 493 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:55,960 that's where it starts and yet faith in the name of Jesus Christ and understanding that 494 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:03,720 distinction can I know for myself and for hundreds of students who I've taught at the 495 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:06,520 Institute of Religion. 496 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:15,800 When you understand what faith in the name of Jesus Christ means, it is very motivating 497 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:26,280 and it's very humbling and it leads us to participate at a higher level in the restored 498 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,400 gospel in the holy temples. 499 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:37,320 So I hope that when we think of faith in Jesus Christ, we'll also immediately think about 500 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:45,920 faith in his name and faith in the name of Jesus Christ and understand the difference 501 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,040 between what it means to have faith in his name. 502 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:57,520 So faith in Jesus Christ and faith in his name all points to and leads us to the principle 503 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,760 of redemption and repentance and being restored. 504 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:09,040 So what else can we say about faith in Jesus Christ, Scott? 505 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:17,600 What it means, how we obtain it, the lectures on faith was what is faith, what are the blessings 506 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,920 that flow into our life through faith and how can we obtain it? 507 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:30,760 Those are the three great questions that the lectures on faith seek to answer. 508 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,440 One other thing I think we should say about faith and faith in Jesus Christ and faith 509 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:41,280 in the name of Jesus Christ, Scott, is the role of sacrifice. 510 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,600 Lecture six is my favorite lecture, the seven lectures on faith, and it talks a lot about 511 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:53,880 the ancients, meaning the ancient patriarchs and prophets and their families, and it talks 512 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,400 about their sacrifice. 513 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,160 And I think about church history and about the sacrifice of our early saints in this 514 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:09,280 dispensation and the faith, the incredible level of faith, Scott, that they had that 515 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:19,600 in all of their distress, that in all of their suffering, really, to go from New York to Ohio, 516 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:25,960 from Ohio to Missouri and from Missouri, from Jackson County to Clay County, from far west 517 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,720 to Nauvoo, from Nauvoo. 518 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:35,560 Oh my goodness, Scott, what a crucible of faith that our early saints were called to 519 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,960 go through. 520 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:44,400 And the sacrifice, the level of their sacrifice and the lectures on faith make this a point, 521 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:50,200 not only speaking of the ancients, but the saints of our day. 522 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:57,680 Those who are willing to make the sacrifice do so not only by the level of their faith, 523 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,400 but it increases their faith. 524 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:08,720 Sacrifice is a crucial element that should be discussed when it comes to talking about 525 00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:14,400 faith, and it's also true for faith in Jesus Christ. 526 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:26,160 So to really have powerful faith in Jesus Christ, Scott, understanding his atoning sacrifice, 527 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:34,720 it leads us to the great prayer of King Lamona's father in which he says, I'm willing to sacrifice, 528 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:39,560 yay, I'll give up, I'll give up, have my kingdom to know thee, I'll give up all my kingdom 529 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:45,440 to know thee, I'll give up everything I own to know thee. 530 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:56,520 But then the great sacrifice, I think it's in chapter 22, Scott, in Alma chapter 22, 531 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:07,960 then he cries out in his prayer, yay, I will give up all my sins to know thee. 532 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:19,920 Wow, when we are willing to make that sacrifice, our faith in Jesus Christ grows in leaps and 533 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,000 bounds. 534 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:28,400 We understand, we to make that statement, Aaron, Aaron must have done an amazing job 535 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:34,080 teaching King Lamona's father, and it's really cool that he says that he starts, you know, 536 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:41,960 in teaching the fall and the need for redeemer, that's how Aaron starts his whole, you know, 537 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,960 proselyting and teaching of King Lamona's father. 538 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:51,760 He begins by talking about the need for a savior, and by the time he's through and he 539 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:57,120 talks about the atoning Jesus Christ, King Lamona's father is not willing to give up 540 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,640 all he owns, but he's willing to sacrifice and give up his sins. 541 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:12,800 So Scott, in this amazing chapter, Alma chapter 22, when Aaron has done such an amazing job 542 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:20,160 teaching King Lamona's father, so Scott in Alma chapter 22, when Aaron, the brother of 543 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:28,200 Ammon, when he's done such an amazing job expounding the scriptures, teaching the lessons 544 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:37,200 right in one sitting to King Lamona's father, and I love it that he starts by talking about 545 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:45,320 the fall that man had fallen, and he teaches King Lamona's father that he can merit nothing 546 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,360 of himself, this need, right? 547 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,520 This is where faith begins. 548 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,520 Faith begins. 549 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:57,080 You know, when I was in a mission presidency, as a counselor in the mission presidency, 550 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:02,600 God, my responsibility in mission presidency gave me besides having half of the stakes 551 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:08,560 in our mission to conduct interviews for those who had committed serious sins or who were 552 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:15,080 in trouble with the law or had had abortions in their life or whatever, I would have to 553 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,560 interview those candidates for baptism. 554 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:24,320 But I also was given the assignment to increase the power of the missionaries teaching, and 555 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,960 teaching preached by gospel. 556 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,400 And so I, I went with several missionaries and I just wanted to be a fly on the wall 557 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,480 and I never said anything that sometimes is really hard for me to do, but I just wanted 558 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,320 to observe. 559 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,720 And so I would just sit silently in some discussions. 560 00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:44,320 Scott, it was so hard for me. 561 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:50,080 And we tried to in zone conferences do a better job that teach us to the missionaries. 562 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,160 Hey, if you don't teach the fall. 563 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,160 Well. 564 00:46:54,160 --> 00:47:02,400 If you don't teach how badly someone needs Jesus Christ, they will never be able to have 565 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:11,960 sufficient faith in Jesus Christ to participate in the blessings of salvation or exaltation. 566 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,160 And Aaron does that in the Book of Mormon does that. 567 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:20,600 And we've, we've talked a lot about that in our podcast, Scott, that this, this utter 568 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:27,840 complete need leads to humility and then this, the word of Christ and, and knowing that through 569 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:33,240 his merits and through his suffering that he atoned for our sins. 570 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:40,120 And in this I'm reading in verse 14 now of Alma chapter 22, that through faith and repentance 571 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,040 and so forth that we can be saved. 572 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:50,520 And then after Alma has expounded all these things, the King asks, so what, what do I 573 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:57,160 need to do to have this eternal life of which thou has spoken? 574 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,600 And in, in verse 17, let's begin there. 575 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,400 And it came to pass that when Aaron had said these words, the King did bow down before 576 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,360 the Lord upon his knees. 577 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,120 Yet even he did prostrate himself upon the earth. 578 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,120 He was laid out. 579 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,960 He just was flat out and he cried mightily. 580 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,560 Just try to picture this. 581 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:29,880 Oh God, Aaron told me that there is a God and if there is a God and if thou art God, 582 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:40,440 wilt thou make thyself known unto me and I will give away all my sins to know thee. 583 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,440 Wow, Scott. 584 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,440 That's a sacrifice. 585 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,160 Isn't that amazing? 586 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,160 Yeah. 587 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,160 That's the ultimate sacrifice. 588 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,160 Yeah, it really is. 589 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,680 You know, you think about that, you know, and I'm going to invite us all to consider what 590 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,880 does that mean to us because we think I hate my sins. 591 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:57,880 Really? 592 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,840 You know, do we really? 593 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,840 You know, we automatically, I think just a human part of us say, well, that's easy. 594 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:04,840 I hate my sins. 595 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,720 I'd be happy to give away all my sins. 596 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:08,240 Not so fast. 597 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:10,280 I don't think that's really the case. 598 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,280 Yeah. 599 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:17,040 No, I, I know that you've, you've taught me, Scott, about the payoff. 600 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,600 There's always a payoff, right? 601 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,600 Yeah. 602 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,600 And that's why we keep sinning. 603 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:21,600 That's right. 604 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,400 Is that we, there's some sort of a payoff. 605 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,040 Oh, it's so tragic, really. 606 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,640 But now I know we're, I know we're all sinners. 607 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,640 I know that we live in a fallen world and we're, we're tainted by sin every day and that we're 608 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,960 never, we're never really free from it, from the temptations or sins. 609 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:43,960 And I know that. 610 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,960 But the willingness. 611 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,960 Yeah. 612 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:53,520 And I think this statement of faith, of King Lomoni, to say, I will sacrifice all my sins 613 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,560 to know thee. 614 00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:04,280 This is such an important principle in understanding how we can obtain faith in Jesus Christ and 615 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,280 His Atonement. 616 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,160 Well, and look what happened because of it. 617 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,640 You know, we know that the experience that Lomoni had, you know, and, and, and it was 618 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,200 unconscious and then came back. 619 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,920 And then, but, but what was really one of the things that really kind of stands out to 620 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:24,440 me in this whole story, David, is the ripple effect that that had, because King Lomoni 621 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,620 was willing to give up all of his sins. 622 00:50:26,620 --> 00:50:30,960 He actually sent a proclamation in verse, verse three of 23. 623 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:31,960 Powerful. 624 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,480 Throughout, he sent a proclamation throughout the land to his people. 625 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,640 He wanted everybody to be converted. 626 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:41,480 That the word of God might have no obstruction, but that it might go forth throughout all 627 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,160 the land and his people might be convinced concerning the wicked traditions of their 628 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,240 fathers and on it goes. 629 00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:53,440 And then in verse seven across the page kind of talks about the effect that that had for 630 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:59,280 they became a righteous people and they did lay down the weapons of their rebellion that 631 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:04,000 they did not fight against God anymore, neither against any of their brother. 632 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,360 And now these are they who were converted unto the Lord. 633 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,360 So what does that tell me? 634 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:15,120 The Lord, unto the Lord, as I'm converted unto the Lord, not the church, no, the Lord, 635 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:20,440 the Lord, not to the church, not to the dogma, not to the doctrines, but to the Lord, which 636 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:25,560 is, you know, the truth and the restored part of that is all part of that, but it's only 637 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,560 a part of that. 638 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,120 It's part of being converted onto the Lord. 639 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,280 And they laid down their weapons of rebellion. 640 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:37,120 We had a great discussion in the Institute classes that Deb and I teach on this just 641 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,640 last Thursday and we talked about the weapons of rebellion. 642 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:46,400 May I invite us all to consider what weapons of rebellion are really at the forefront of 643 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:52,440 our lives and how do we lay them aside like these people did as they became converted 644 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,440 to the Lord? 645 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,880 That's that's one of the ways that we can understand and begin to see the conversion 646 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:02,160 in our own lives unto the Lord is when we are willing to lay down those weapons of rebellion, 647 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,240 such as sacrifice. 648 00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:05,000 So exactly. 649 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,720 Sacrifice my anger. 650 00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:07,720 Sacrifice my control. 651 00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:08,720 My fears. 652 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:15,480 Sacrifice my fear and all of those other things that we see so prevalent, prevalent, prevalently, 653 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,520 maybe in other people's lives, but we need to see that as a mere maybe in our own life. 654 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,520 We're so myopic. 655 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:21,520 Yeah. 656 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,520 Barry. 657 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,520 We have so many blind spots. 658 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,520 Right. 659 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,760 We have so many blind spots in our life too. 660 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:36,120 So Scott, we can't speak of faith in the general faith in God or faith in the specific in Jesus 661 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:44,480 Christ without understanding that to really obtain the faith of power, one must be willing 662 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,640 to live the principle or law. 663 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:57,160 It's even a law in the temple of sacrifice, sacrifice and obedience. 664 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,600 We need we need to live those laws. 665 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:05,160 Faith is the result of an obedient life of sacrifice. 666 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,280 Whose obedience is a sacrifice for some of us, Dave? 667 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,640 Well, yeah, no doubt. 668 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,120 No doubt, Scott. 669 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:18,320 It's interesting, you know, how the Lord kind of separates the two in the Old Testament 670 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,560 and Samuel, but obedience is better than the sacrifice. 671 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,720 So they go together. 672 00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:26,640 They absolutely go together. 673 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,800 We can't make sacrifices without being obedient. 674 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,800 We can't be obedient without making sacrifices. 675 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:39,480 But I just think that those are such important points to consider when when we talk about 676 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:47,720 how do we obtain the faith of power in Jesus Christ and in the name of Jesus Christ in 677 00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:50,720 all of the ordinances, Scott, that we receive. 678 00:53:50,720 --> 00:54:01,720 We not only are promised the amazing blessings, but we also promise to make sacrifice. 679 00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:07,560 And so I I think that we should all be and this is a hard thing, I think, for maybe our 680 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:14,880 culture these days is how much do we really sacrifice to be a great Latter-day Saint? 681 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:24,520 How much do we really sacrifice to be a true follower or disciple of Jesus Christ, Scott? 682 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:31,000 Sacrifice is a seems to be a unpopular principle these days. 683 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:37,120 And I I just you know, I'm going to be going on a church history trip again soon and I'm 684 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:46,440 going to be reviewing all of the great stories and of sacrifice that our pioneer forefathers, 685 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,440 saints were willing to make. 686 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:58,160 And that's why they had such amazing faith because they were willing to make these amazing 687 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,240 sacrifices and there were people all along the way, Scott, including some of our great 688 00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:07,480 great great grandparents who were not willing to make the sacrifice and who stayed behind 689 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:12,920 who were left along the trail who didn't make it out here. 690 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,640 And they lost their faith. 691 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:15,640 They did. 692 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,840 They I know they had maybe some level of faith in Jesus Christ, but they definitely lost 693 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,800 their faith in the name of Jesus Christ. 694 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:30,640 And I know that that I'm not the judge and that they'll have maybe opportunities to to 695 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,040 rekindle that or to receive those blessings in the next life. 696 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:40,000 But they definitely missed out on a lot of blessings in this life because they were not 697 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,560 willing to make the sacrifice. 698 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:51,320 I think of the journal entry of Sarah P. Rich, wife of Charles C. Rich, and when she crossed 699 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:57,680 the river, the Mississippi River, and she looked back at the Naboo temple upon the hill 700 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,000 in Naboo, and she took her last glimpse. 701 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:09,080 She said she and she records this feeling which came over her that going forward across 702 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,040 the plains of Iowa, which was so difficult. 703 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,320 Oh, we should talk about that sometime. 704 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:22,480 But anyway, going forward and making this sacrifice, she said, was like taking a step 705 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,520 into the dark. 706 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:33,400 And she said, I would not have been able to do it had it not been for the ordinances, 707 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:41,160 the blessings and the promises that we had received in the house of the Lord. 708 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,960 Or in other words, taking upon her the name of Christ. 709 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:46,960 Exactly. 710 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:47,960 Exactly. 711 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:59,560 And brothers and sisters, we often think of the ordinance of baptism as being the ordinance 712 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:05,760 that cleanses us from sin and the sacrament also in connection with that. 713 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:14,840 But I want to also testify to you that whenever we participate in any ordinance of the gospel 714 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:21,560 of Jesus Christ, when we are faithful and participate in any ordinance of the gospel 715 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:29,880 of Jesus Christ, either as the giver or the receiver of the ordinance, the atonement of 716 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,200 Jesus Christ is applied in our life. 717 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:43,400 And I would also include in those ordinances the ordinance of bearing one's testimony. 718 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,400 Now, I know that's not a real true ordinance in the sense or definition of the word as 719 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,200 we usually use it. 720 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:54,760 But when we bear our testimonies of Jesus Christ, it says we're forgiven of our sins 721 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,920 if we do so by the Spirit. 722 00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:03,720 When we pray in the Spirit, which I think is like an ordinance, we are forgiven of our 723 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:12,080 sins when we participate in any ordinances of the gospel of Jesus Christ, exercising 724 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:16,760 faith not just in Jesus, but in the name of Jesus. 725 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,600 And all ordinances are done in the name of Jesus God. 726 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,040 We bear our testimonies in the name. 727 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:29,200 If there's one thing I wish that we would do, and President Nelson has been so powerful 728 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,360 in trying to help us do this, how do we use the name? 729 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,320 How do we take it upon our lips? 730 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,680 What do we do with the name of Jesus? 731 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:44,440 And I hear people and their prayers and their testimonies, just like it's just automatic 732 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:50,480 or it's just they just almost flippantly just ended that way because that's the official 733 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,260 way to end it. 734 00:58:52,260 --> 00:58:55,240 But do they know what they're really stating? 735 00:58:55,240 --> 00:59:03,600 What they're really saying that anytime we invoke the name of Jesus Christ God, it's 736 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:12,280 like an ordinance and the power of Jesus Christ and His atoning sacrifice is being applied 737 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,480 in our lives. 738 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,840 That's exercising faith in the name. 739 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:26,880 Whenever we use the name, I remember when Brother Matthews was in my home in Minnesota 740 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:32,040 and we were having this long discussion about this very topic and I said to him, so Brother 741 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:39,560 Matthews, you know, who wrote the Bible dictionary, Brother Matthews, I've come to the conclusion 742 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:46,000 that when we participate in any ordinance of the gospel, either as a giver or a receiver, 743 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:54,360 the power of Jesus Christ and His atonement is being administered into our life. 744 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,480 And he said, David, wait just a minute. 745 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,480 Wait just a minute. 746 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,600 If you got a pen or pencil, I went and got a pen or pencil. 747 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,600 He said, so say that again. 748 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,840 And he had me say it slow and he wrote it down. 749 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,400 I thought this was so interesting. 750 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:14,280 He wrote it down and he he then studied it. 751 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:21,280 He kept reading it and rereading it for a minute or two. 752 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:28,000 And then he looked up at me and he says, David, that was worth coming to Minnesota for. 753 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,680 I believe that's true. 754 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:38,760 Whenever we participate in any ordinance of the gospel or invoke the name of Jesus Christ 755 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:51,200 by the Spirit, we are receiving the blessings of Jesus Christ and His atonement in our life. 756 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,840 That's what it means, Scott, to exercise faith in the name. 757 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,280 And we should be very careful how we use it. 758 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:07,000 But so I hope our listeners, we invite our listeners, please use the name more sacredly, 759 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:13,000 more carefully, say it may be a little slower when you in your prayers or bear your testimony. 760 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:18,760 Think about what you're doing when you participate in any ordinance of the gospel and you invoke 761 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:25,240 the name of Jesus Christ and think about renewing all of your covenants when you partake of 762 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,780 the sacrament. 763 01:01:26,780 --> 01:01:32,240 Think about how this sacrament points us to the temple, not only reviewing our covenants 764 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:38,320 that we have made there, but pointing us to return there often to help others to enjoy 765 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:49,760 the blessings of faith in the name of Jesus Christ and may all of us be able to increase 766 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:59,520 and receive the blessings and promises of having and exercising faith in the name. 767 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,400 And that's my prayer for all of us today. 768 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:08,640 Well, what you're really saying, and this is another invitation, we've got a couple 769 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:13,420 of, we've had a couple of invitations here today, but to just be more intentional. 770 01:02:13,420 --> 01:02:18,240 We just need to be more intentional about our relationship and that will include the 771 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:23,400 way that we end our prayers and everything else if we have great intent. 772 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:31,000 And also, that intent will really inspire us, motivate us to take a look at what are 773 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:37,160 our weapons of rebellion and how are they keeping us from fully taking upon us His name 774 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:43,280 and invoking that name in our own lives and in all that we do. 775 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,160 Thanks for being with us, everybody. 776 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,000 We appreciate your listening in. 777 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:53,480 You can send your experiences, etc., to us at HeReDemesus at gmail.com. 778 01:02:53,480 --> 01:03:04,480 Also remember that you have been redeemed through His blood. 779 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:20,520 Thank you.