1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,340 Hey there everybody welcome back another episode of Redeem Through His Blood. 2 00:00:13,340 --> 00:00:18,320 My name's Scott Durfee, want to be the first to welcome you today and I'm joined like I 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,360 always am by my partner in this project. 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,360 Thank you Scott. 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,760 David Durfee, what's up Dave? 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Maybe when this podcast comes out you might be in Israel. 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:31,360 I think I will. I think actually this will come out in March. 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,760 How do you release this if you're in Israel? 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,800 I have a magic. 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Okay. 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Yeah. 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:38,800 Yeah. 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:44,600 Everyone should know, everyone should know that Scott is really the mastermind behind 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,960 this podcast. 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:54,240 I just show up and get to talk about Jesus and the Gospel and Scott does all the work 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:59,760 and I'm so grateful for that Scott but I'm really excited that you're going to be in 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:00,760 Israel. 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:01,760 Yeah. 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,760 We're looking forward to that. 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,920 Have those experiences come home and share them with me and the listeners. 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,920 Right. 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:12,200 I'll get to see the stuff that I've heard you talk about that you've seen and I remember 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,200 when you went. 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,200 Life changing. 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,200 I remember at least one time. 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,560 I don't know how many times you've been but I remember one time when you went you came 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,120 home and you had a slight show that was back in the days of slight shows. 28 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:29,040 I think I took like 400 pictures and you know I turned them all into slides which is kind 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:35,560 of expensive and I still have those and I thought I've got to go to the Family History 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,560 Center. 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,560 What do you do with those today? 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:44,080 I turned those slides and put them on a thumb drive or something so I can have those. 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:49,200 I know you've been doing that with your family, your super eight videos or whatever like that. 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,200 That's been really sweet. 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,480 I've been putting them on digital, digitizing those. 36 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,320 That's kind of a nice service that the church offers. 37 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,880 I'm grateful for that as well. 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Even though we haven't taken advantage of it yet. 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Amazing. 40 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,000 It takes time. 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,000 It's kind of a slow process. 42 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,000 It's not easy. 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,240 I ran into one of your kids the other day at the basketball game and I can't remember 44 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:17,560 how it got brought up but Aubrey said he's either at Costco or at the Family History. 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,360 I love spending time at both those. 46 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,360 Me too. 47 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,360 That's fun. 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,360 Hey, welcome everybody. 49 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,840 We really appreciate those of you who have responded to our invitation and I'm going 50 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,240 to extend it yet again. 51 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:34,160 We would love to hear your experiences around the things that we talk about here. 52 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:40,720 We've done several wonderful episodes that were interviews and we know that so many of 53 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:46,120 you have very similar experiences and stories and sometimes those stories just need to be 54 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,800 shared. 55 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,640 I don't mean that we're going to share them here but we would love it if you would share 56 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:53,640 those with us. 57 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:57,800 We would even maybe, if with your permission, love to take pieces of that. 58 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,480 If you're okay with us using your name and doing so then let us know. 59 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,800 If you would rather we didn't, let us know that as well. 60 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,640 In fact, if you would rather we didn't share any of your experience, you may feel inclined 61 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:14,160 to share with us on the air then we won't do that either. 62 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:20,480 We would just definitely love to hear or read about your experiences around the things that 63 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:26,200 we talk about here that can just help us so much and help each other so much. 64 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,120 In fellow shipping even around this, right Dave? 65 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,240 Oh, and you know Scott, it's amazing. 66 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:41,160 I think in and out of the church how many people are blessed by a relationship with Jesus 67 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:48,000 and how involved he is in individuals lives. 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:54,000 I remember when I was a bishop many years ago, Scott, in Minnesota and there was a sister 69 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:00,520 in our ward whose husband had left her forsaken her and left her with two kids and they were 70 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:09,640 really challenging kids, high energy, kind of special needs children really. 71 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:18,240 And wow, my heart was just so broken for her and I was so touched and I remember telling 72 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:24,440 our elders, corn president or in those days, a high priest group leader that I wanted to 73 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,080 be assigned to be her home teacher. 74 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:33,840 So I was the bishop assigned to be her home teacher because I wanted to just minister 75 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:40,400 to her personally and knew that she was just in so much need and I wanted to help anyway 76 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:46,960 I could and I thought it would also be good for my sons to go with me to minister to her. 77 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:56,960 She lived in a little dingy apartment in the poor area and anyway, so I would go visit 78 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:06,000 her monthly and we'd go in her little dingy, sometimes smelly apartment and we would sit 79 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:16,760 down with this sweet sister who I loved and children running around and me trying to engage 80 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:26,160 with them and play with them and I think my son is sitting there a little bit shell-shocked. 81 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:33,240 And anyway, one day I asked her, I said, Susan, really, how are you doing? 82 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,960 How are you doing? 83 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,200 I need to know your needs and how you're doing. 84 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,280 And she said, oh, Bishop, I'm doing fine. 85 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:44,280 I'm doing fine. 86 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:47,640 I said, what do you mean you're doing fine, Susan? 87 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,120 What does that mean? 88 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,440 She says, Bishop, I know I have angels administering to me. 89 00:05:54,440 --> 00:06:00,840 In fact, she said, I was at work the other day and I felt a presence by me and I knew 90 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:05,880 that he was with me and I said, who's he, Susan? 91 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:13,560 And she said, Jesus, I knew Jesus was there with me. 92 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:21,040 Oh, Scott, I remember thinking, who in the heck do I think I am? 93 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,200 She doesn't need me. 94 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,760 She's got Jesus. 95 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:30,640 I mean, Scott, it wasn't, it was, I mean, I felt the spirit of what she was telling me. 96 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,880 It wasn't just that she was imagining it. 97 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:41,280 I knew when she told me that out of the sincerity and faith of her heart that she was telling 98 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:47,320 me something that she had experienced and I knew it was true. 99 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,320 It was her witness. 100 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:57,200 And I remember thinking, oh, man, I was so humbled, just so humbled, thinking, wow, she's 101 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,800 got Jesus administering to her. 102 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,320 I know that, I know that's true, Scott. 103 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:10,640 Again for people in and out of the church, Jesus is doing his work. 104 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,000 It's his work. 105 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,000 It's his work. 106 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:20,080 Sometimes we are his hands, sometimes we're his arms, his legs, his feet, sometimes his 107 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:26,200 voice if he, through the Holy Ghost, inspires us. 108 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:33,640 But he himself is engaged in the work and ministering to others. 109 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:41,120 And I've never forgotten that or how I felt that day in that little dingy apartment. 110 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Yeah, I got a, not a text message, but on Facebook, you know, you can send messages or 111 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,160 whatever on a messenger or whatever. 112 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:58,960 And I got a text the other day from just a gal that Deb and I absolutely fell in love 113 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,240 with in our institute class, one of our first semesters. 114 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,960 And she just, she kept coming for like two years straight. 115 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,400 She would come every semester and she was going through some really difficult things. 116 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,280 She was from a different part of the country, not from Utah, which most of them actually 117 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,160 are not from Utah, which is wonderful. 118 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:26,160 And she just wanted Deb and I to know, she just wanted us to know that she has developed 119 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:33,720 a relationship with Jesus that has helped her put away so many difficult things from 120 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,400 her past that really were kind of ruining her life. 121 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,360 They were crippling, you know, and many of us have that opportunity or have words to 122 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,760 go with those pictures, right? 123 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,320 Or pictures to go with those words as it were. 124 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,640 You know, when we talk about emotional or challenges or things that have been perpetrated 125 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:58,640 against us or even as a result of sin, sometimes that we just feel sometimes so spiritually 126 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,640 crippled that our growth has stunted. 127 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:02,640 We're not moving in parallelized. 128 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:03,640 Yeah, paralyzed. 129 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:04,640 There you go. 130 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,140 Spiritual paralysis. 131 00:09:06,140 --> 00:09:11,560 Very much, and she was just so grateful to let us know that because of her relationship 132 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:17,840 and what she called friendship with Jesus now, that her life was just... And she said, 133 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,280 it's not perfect. 134 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,280 My life's not perfect. 135 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,240 There's still a lot of things in my life that I wish were different. 136 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,320 Exactly. 137 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:30,120 But she did say, but because of my friendship, because of my newfound friend in Jesus Christ, 138 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,800 I'm able to face whatever I'm asked to face in life. 139 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,240 Man, we wept. 140 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,240 We read that. 141 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:43,640 We were just so grateful for the blessings that come because of that. 142 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,600 So many examples of that throughout church history. 143 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:52,040 I study a lot of church history, as you know, and so many examples of the Savior ministering 144 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:59,120 to individuals and their hour of need in church history stories. 145 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,000 And I'm sure that could be shared in all Christian churches. 146 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Well, actually too. 147 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,920 You know, we try to extend an invitation every week. 148 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,360 And I've just come up with an invitation all of a sudden already. 149 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,560 And maybe that's something that we should all be reflecting on. 150 00:10:15,560 --> 00:10:19,960 Maybe we should all be looking at our lives and keep a journal where we're talking about 151 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:27,000 or where we recognize or where we're keeping track or giving words to the experiences that 152 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,160 we're having like your friend did in Minnesota. 153 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:36,600 If that was written down and and the Spirit was given opportunity to bear witness through 154 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:43,040 the writings of that to maybe a future generation or maybe a friend or or or or maybe back to 155 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,080 me in my own forgetfulness. 156 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,400 We should all be having seeking. 157 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,360 We should all be seeking Jesus and those experience in space. 158 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,600 We've all been been told, right? 159 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Doctrine and Covenants, I think it's section 93 section 93, Scott, first verse that we 160 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,200 should all be and Moroni. 161 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:12,560 Moroni tells us seek this Jesus of whom I've testified. 162 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:18,480 We should all be seeking Jesus and building a stronger relationship with him. 163 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,480 And you're right. 164 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:26,400 It would be so awesome to identify when we have experiences with him, which I think would 165 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:34,360 be more frequent than we would even right now believe if we became more sensitized and 166 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,640 aware and more mindful of it. 167 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,600 I've always loved verse 93. 168 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,160 Verily, thus saith the Lord. 169 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,400 This is verse one section 93. 170 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:49,160 Verily, thus saith the Lord, it shall come to pass at every soul who forsake of his sins 171 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:57,400 and cometh unto me, calleth on my name and obeyeth my voice and keepeth my commandments, 172 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,160 shall see my face and know that I am. 173 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:09,360 It's one of the great promises in all the scriptures, Scott. 174 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:19,600 I've been invited to seek his face, to come to know him, I would, I have not seen him face 175 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:25,840 to face, but I've had some experiences where I knew he was present. 176 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:31,000 I've certainly felt his hand and influence in my life. 177 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,160 It's definitely felt his spirit. 178 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,720 I've heard his words speak to me through the Holy Ghost. 179 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,760 And I've, I've, there's been a few dreams. 180 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:52,040 I've dreamed a dream and or or had a vision of, of Jesus and felt his love and meekness 181 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,040 and humility. 182 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,680 So hope that we all will. 183 00:12:55,680 --> 00:13:08,240 And I think maybe really studying, deeply studying his sacrifice, his, his atoning, redeeming, 184 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:15,040 sacrifice, Scott really helps us to fill that connection and really have a relationship 185 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,680 with him. 186 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:21,840 And so that maybe we can kind of try to get down the road and go a little further here 187 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,160 on the events. 188 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,800 I've always loved this description of the Atonement of Jesus Christ by James E. Talmage 189 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,760 in Jesus Christ. 190 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:40,800 He writes, Christ's agony in the garden of Gethsemane is unfathomable by the finite mind, 191 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,880 both as to intensity and cause. 192 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:50,360 He struggled and groaned under a burden such as no other being who has lived on earth might 193 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,440 even conceive as possible. 194 00:13:53,440 --> 00:14:00,840 It was not physical pain nor mental anguish alone that caused him to suffer such torture 195 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:10,680 as to produce an extrusion of blood from every poor, but a spiritual agony of soul such as 196 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:14,520 only God was capable of experiencing. 197 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:23,320 No other man, however great his powers of physical or mental endurance could have suffered so. 198 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:35,440 And then in another quote from Elder Talmage, he goes on and he says, On the cross it seems 199 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:42,960 that in addition to the fearful suffering incident to crucifixion, the agony of Gethsemane 200 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:48,960 had recurred, intensified. 201 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,800 Let me repeat that. 202 00:14:50,800 --> 00:15:00,360 On the cross, the agony of Gethsemane had recurred, intensified beyond human power to 203 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,040 endure in the bitterest hour. 204 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,240 This is on the cross. 205 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:17,320 In the bitterest hour, the dying Christ was alone, alone in most terrible reality that 206 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:24,200 the supreme sacrifice of the Son might be consummated in all of its fullness. 207 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:31,720 The Father seems to have withdrawn the support of his immediate presence, leaving to the 208 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:43,680 Savior of men the glory of complete victory over the forces of sin and death. 209 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,760 That's quite a statement and actually Elder McConkey quotes that as well in The Mortal 210 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:49,760 Messiah. 211 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:57,400 And again, I think we read a quote last week from President Nelson talking about how Gethsemane 212 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,200 reoccurred on the cross. 213 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:09,560 So again, I suggested proposed last podcast that we consider Gethsemane is not being completed 214 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,280 in the garden. 215 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,800 Gethsemane is not just a place. 216 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:23,240 Gethsemane is the press, the press and and all of our sins and all of our sufferings, 217 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:33,240 all of our sorrows, all of all of our sicknesses were pressed upon him physically, mentally, 218 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:43,600 emotionally and spiritually, both in Gethsemane and then for hours after that, culminating 219 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:51,280 the last three hours, especially the bitterest hours, the last three on the cross. 220 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:57,920 So I hope our listeners will come to a better understanding of that. 221 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:08,120 And last week in speaking of Gethsemane, Scott and the events, and let's let's just remind 222 00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:09,120 review here. 223 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:18,320 There are four major events or we could maybe say requirements that Jesus Christ had to 224 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:26,480 complete or go through, fulfill in order to carry out what we call the Atonement of Jesus 225 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,600 Christ. 226 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,560 One is the sinless life. 227 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:38,280 We talked about that in spite of all of the temptations which would have caused him great 228 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,640 suffering. 229 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:47,200 Really I just he suffered every temptation that's in the scriptures. 230 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:56,440 They have the sinless being feel all the temptations of lust and pride and all the temptations 231 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:03,400 of man to a greater extent than any of us will ever experience it. 232 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:09,000 Number one is in this life and then to go into Gethsemane on Thursday night, the last 233 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,960 week this this was this was Passover. 234 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:18,280 We'll review this on Easter, but and then on Friday morning, the cross and what happens 235 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,000 on the cross. 236 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:31,560 So Gethsemane is to the cross and crucifixion is three and four is his death, physical death 237 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,200 and resurrection. 238 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:40,880 Those are the four what we call events of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. 239 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,160 So Matthew 26, Scott. 240 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,320 Got it. 241 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:52,000 If you want to read Matthew 26 and maybe give a little thought and feeling about verses 242 00:18:52,000 --> 00:19:00,680 36 through 39, if our readers would like to follow along Matthew 26, 36 through 39. 243 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:05,200 Then come with Jesus unto them unto a place called Gethsemane. 244 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,800 And he saith unto his disciples, Sit ye here, will I go and pray yonder. 245 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,680 And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and they began to be sorrowful 246 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,600 and very heavy. 247 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,600 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even unto death. 248 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,200 Terri ye here and watch with me. 249 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:29,800 And he went a little further and fell on his face and prayed, saying, Oh, my father, if 250 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,160 it be possible, let this cup pass from me. 251 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:38,440 Nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt. 252 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:43,520 You know, the emotions when I hear this and think about so much goes on. 253 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:49,280 I mean, I almost can see this taking place as he comes into the garden called Gethsemane. 254 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:55,120 Now we know that Gethsemane, right, means the place of the olive press, right, Dave? 255 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:57,680 And so the oil press. 256 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,080 And so we understand the connotations and stuff that come here. 257 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,520 But he says to his disciples, Sit ye here, will I go and pray? 258 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,080 And then he take with him the sons of Zebedee, James and John, right? 259 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,680 And he began to and began to be sorrowful and very heavy. 260 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,920 And so you can just, if you can just picture with me this event, you know, in the evening 261 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,840 taking place, he's heavy. 262 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,920 You can imagine the feeling that's coming around. 263 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,480 Last week, you were talking about this. 264 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,000 And you even said, I'm even feeling melancholy. 265 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,560 I think you said just thinking about her, just talking about these things. 266 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,480 And so that, you know, that must have been happening there. 267 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,840 Then he said into them, my soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even into death. 268 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,520 Terry, you hear and watch with me. 269 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:48,040 What if you were James and John in the Gospel of Mark, in the Joseph Smith translation, 270 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,720 it talks about what they were feeling. 271 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,560 And they were feeling the same thing. 272 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,560 Yeah. 273 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,800 But I'm sure Jesus even to a greater extent. 274 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,080 Well, and then he goes a little further and he falls on his face. 275 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,880 You know, oftentimes, that's the phrase that gets me too. 276 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:07,280 So many so often, you know, we when we talk about it, I don't know how this comes up. 277 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,400 But I think because of the art that we see about the Garden of Gethsemane and so on. 278 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:17,360 But we have always just thought of Jesus just walking up, you know, maybe, maybe kneeling 279 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:23,320 down, maybe brushing things away that would have impeded his comfort, you know, to kneel 280 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,680 down by a rock or a bush or whatever. 281 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,920 But no, he fell on his face. 282 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,520 He fell on his face and he prayed. 283 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,240 And he must have known he did know. 284 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,120 I mean, and he was beginning to feel it. 285 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:36,640 Oh, my father. 286 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:42,680 Oh, father, please, you know, I know what's coming here. 287 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,960 But if it's possible, can you just take this away from from me? 288 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,320 But but nevertheless, nevertheless, not my will, but your will, I remember, I remember 289 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,440 where I'm having a remembering of our counsel in heaven. 290 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,640 I'm remembering the things that we talked about. 291 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,560 I'm remembering that for the effects of the fall of Adam and Eve. 292 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,200 This has been put into place. 293 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,560 I already know the doctrine. 294 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,680 Jesus must have been thinking that's taught in 2nd Nephi 9 7 through 9, where if he didn't 295 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,600 go through it, that we'd all go back to our original state and that our our spirits would 296 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,320 become subject to the devil. 297 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,800 And so I I mean, just that alone, just that weight alone would have been enough to do 298 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,960 any mortal in David. 299 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,640 Yeah, he fell on his face. 300 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:34,440 So I have a favorite picture that and I don't even know who the artist is. 301 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:40,920 I don't even know if anyone knows of an angel administering to Jesus and he's completely 302 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:50,120 laid out completely laid out in agony in an angel trying to administer to him. 303 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:58,960 And I just I just think it's it's different when you see him falling on his face that 304 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:06,640 it's so heavy and he hasn't even yet begun to bleed from every poor. 305 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:14,000 So I love the description that Matthew gives us and Mark gives us the Gospel of Mark, Scott 306 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:24,600 in Mark chapter 14 verses 32 through 36. 307 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:30,440 And they came to a place which is named Gethsemane and he saith to his disciples, sit ye here 308 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,600 while I shall pray. 309 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:38,280 And he taketh with him Peter and James and John and began to be sore amazed and to be 310 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,280 very heavy. 311 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:47,400 Now, now in the JST, it says that his disciples were sore amazed and began to be very heavy. 312 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:54,280 So they were they were feeling it to no doubt being with the Savior, observing him, knowing 313 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,240 what he was feeling. 314 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,920 They began to feel it as well. 315 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,920 So continue. 316 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:04,720 And he saith unto them, My soul is exceedingly sorrowful even unto death, carry ye here 317 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,640 and watch, and he went forward a little and fell on the ground and prayed. 318 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,440 There it is again, though, fell on the ground and prayed that if it were possible, the hour 319 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,720 might pass from. 320 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:21,000 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee. 321 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,360 Take away this cup from me. 322 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:29,600 Nevertheless, not what I will, but what thou wilt. 323 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,200 We can all hear I think Yelder Holland's voice talking about Abba. 324 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,440 Yeah, which means daddy. 325 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:43,080 It's the most intimate form for daddy. 326 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,000 Abba, Father, daddy. 327 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,840 If it be possible, all things all things are possible unto thee. 328 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,600 Take away this cup from me. 329 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,640 Nevertheless, not what I will, but what thou wilt. 330 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,120 I don't know the humility and meekness of Jesus. 331 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:05,120 I think our, and his love for the Father, his desire to be obedient to the Father, I 332 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:15,040 think are maybe his most significant and powerful characteristics that we should all, we should 333 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,840 all seek. 334 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:22,780 So I think Matthew and Mark give us kind of a different sort of picture of Gethsemane 335 00:25:22,780 --> 00:25:28,720 than sometimes what we, what we see in the, some of the great artwork that's been done 336 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,640 trying to portray Jesus in, in Gethsemane. 337 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:42,840 And I think it's also interesting that in the writings of Isaiah, as quoted by Abinadi 338 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:49,560 in Mosiah chapter 14, we actually, I think read this last week about him being bruised 339 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,040 for our iniquities. 340 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:58,040 And we read the verse, I think it is at verse 10, Scott, in, in turn there real quick if 341 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,080 readers want to review this with us. 342 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:10,520 Mosiah chapter 14, this is Abinadi actually quoting Isaiah 53, but verse 10 reads, Yet 343 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:16,200 it pleaseth the Lord to bruise him, he hath put him to grieve, when thou shalt make his 344 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,200 soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed. 345 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,960 Now it's, it's an interesting idea. 346 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:31,360 I don't, I don't, I don't know about this, but it's an interesting idea to contemplate. 347 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:37,600 Did Jesus see all of those who would take advantage? 348 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:43,920 I mean, I think his seed are those who would be spiritually born again. 349 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:53,560 Did he see what the, the transforming blessings and the miracles that would occur in his seed 350 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,280 as a result of his atonement? 351 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,920 Did he get a glimpse of that in, in that moment? 352 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:09,080 Did time stop and stand still and did he see the, the minions of people who would participate 353 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:17,640 through repentance and receive the blessings and which would include even all the, all 354 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,960 the consequences that he'd suffered for. 355 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:29,160 And Elder Merrill J. Bateman in general conference years ago said, I'm quoting, in the garden 356 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:39,680 and on the cross, Jesus saw each of us and not only bore our sins, but also experienced 357 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,600 our deepest feelings. 358 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,200 So he would know how to comfort and strengthen us. 359 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,760 That's even our deepest feelings. 360 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,120 He, did he see all of that? 361 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:55,120 Yeah. 362 00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:56,520 Did he see you? 363 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,080 Did he see me? 364 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:04,880 Did he see what he was ransoming and paying for suffering for? 365 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:12,440 And what we were suffering as a result of our sins and sicknesses and the fall of all, 366 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,520 did he, did he see us in those moments? 367 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:22,240 He was suffering and know what he was, and maybe that was partly what brought him the 368 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,680 joy that President Nelson says, quoting Hebrews, right? 369 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,680 Yeah. 370 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,160 Quoting Hebrews when, when you contemplate, how did he do it? 371 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:41,080 Well, that's, that's an incomprehensible question to answer is how did he do it? 372 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:49,520 Well, President Nelson Scott, you know, says, quoting Hebrews chapter 12 verse two, he, 373 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:56,000 he quoted this in general conference and said, this is how, can you believe this is how Jesus 374 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:03,560 fulfilled the atonement, his atonement, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our 375 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:13,640 faith love that title, who for the joy that was set before him, endured the cross, despising 376 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:19,240 the shame and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. 377 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:30,520 Well I love that, but I think that joy that was set before him was seeing all of those 378 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:36,880 who would be blessed by his atoning sacrifice and suffering. 379 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,320 I think he saw it with an eye of faith. 380 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:47,840 I think God allowed him to see it, see us, his seed and the blessings that would flow 381 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:59,120 into our lives and so many millions and millions of others because of his willingness to suffer, 382 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,560 to lead and die for us. 383 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,040 There's a part of this translation too that might have meant not just for the joy that 384 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,320 was set before him, but also he did it because of the joy that was set before us. 385 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,960 Yeah, yeah, the joy it brought us. 386 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:20,920 Right, yeah, which, you know, which is obviously and, you know, Heavenly Father says it, you 387 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:26,360 know, it's my work and my glory to bring to pass the eternal life of man. 388 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,640 And how does that go? 389 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,120 To bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man. 390 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,120 Right. 391 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,160 Yeah, and so, you know, to have that, I think that, you know, that was maybe even part of 392 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:44,720 his joy, Dave, is to see our healing, our redemption from all things. 393 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,920 I think it was. 394 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:55,800 So when it says that he saw his seed, I think that's what brought him the great joy and 395 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:06,400 gave him the, the, the power to some extent to be able to carry out his, his atoning sacrifice. 396 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:12,600 Scott, both again, thinking of Gethsemane is not just a place or a garden, but thinking 397 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:19,280 of Gethsemane as the press and having all of the sorrows, all of the sins, all of the 398 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:24,480 sicknesses, all of the troubles, all of the afflictions, all of the negatives. 399 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,480 Think of this, Scott. 400 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,600 All of the negatives of the fall of Adam and Eve. 401 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,600 Yeah. 402 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,600 Yeah. 403 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,600 We're pressed upon him. 404 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,600 Yeah. 405 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:39,160 And we think of that as sin, which enough that alone would be more than a mortal being 406 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,280 could even begin to comprehend. 407 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,080 But that's not how we're talking about. 408 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,800 We're talking about every effect of the fall. 409 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,000 You and I could not even endure pain for our own sins. 410 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,400 I, I, yeah, I don't endure pain well anyway. 411 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:59,080 We couldn't even live and suffer for our own sins to fulfill the demands of justice. 412 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:06,240 And yet he did that for all of all of Father's children. 413 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,880 So it's in, it's really is incomprehensible. 414 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,840 I, I've always loved, I don't know. 415 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,960 I love the sacrament hymns, Scott. 416 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,200 I really love the sacrament hymns, but I've always loved this, this hymn. 417 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:27,000 There is a green hill far away speaking about the Golgotha and the cross, which again, I 418 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:35,560 hope that our listeners will, will, will have a little more appreciation and gratitude and 419 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:45,080 understanding for what happens on the cross that Gethsemane reoccurs on the cross, intensified 420 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:53,000 this, the cross, the last three hours, though that was his bitterest moment in the entire 421 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,160 atoning sacrifice, which he carried out. 422 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:02,040 And I hope that we can all appreciate that to a greater extent than I think sometimes 423 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,760 we do in the church. 424 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:13,440 But I just want to read this, this beautiful hymn, the text by Cecil Francis Alexander. 425 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:22,040 There is a green hill far away without a city wall where the dear Lord was crucified, who 426 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,400 died to save us all. 427 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:34,080 We may not know, we cannot tell what pains he had to bear, but we believe it was for 428 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,880 us he hung and suffered there. 429 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:45,240 There was no other good enough to pay the price of sin. 430 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:53,360 He only, only he could unlock the gate of heaven and let us in. 431 00:33:53,360 --> 00:34:06,080 Oh dearly, dearly, has he loved, and we must love him too, and trust in his redeeming blood 432 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,880 to try his works to do. 433 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:21,040 I just love this, this sweet hymn and poem put to music because I think it's kind of 434 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:29,640 the culmination of the suffering of Christ and the effect that it should, that it should 435 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:36,760 have on us when we understand what he suffered for us. 436 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:45,280 So we've talked about, yes, Semine, not again just as a place, but as a condition. 437 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,960 All the sins and suffering pressed upon him. 438 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:56,840 At three o'clock, at three o'clock, I, I don't, I know we don't have a perfect chronology 439 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:03,280 of these events, Scott, and some put the, the renting of the veil, the veil was rent. 440 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:11,200 Now the, the veil in the temple was a heavy, thick curtain that separated the holy of holies 441 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,360 from their, from the rest of the temple. 442 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,040 When Christ called out, I believe that was, that was rent. 443 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,600 When he cried out, my God, my God, why yourself forsake me? 444 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,960 And I believe that that's when the earthquake take, took place. 445 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:33,080 Some do not believe the earthquake, quake took place until maybe after Jesus had died. 446 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,320 Again, we don't know the events. 447 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,880 I kind of like to think of it as being within that three hour of time between 12 noon and 448 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,320 3pm on Friday. 449 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:50,880 But nevertheless, as we said last week, all of Mother Earth and all of the rocks and plants 450 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:56,400 and all of heaven and earth were moaning. 451 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,480 I think, where were you, Scott? 452 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,360 Where was I when Jesus was doing this? 453 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,920 Did we get a glimpse? 454 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:10,720 Were we able to, to get a glimpse even in our premortal state as he was actually carrying 455 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:18,840 out these events that we had exercised faith in since our premortal existence, since we 456 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,440 were created as spirits, we knew that he would do this. 457 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,840 This event, were we able to get a glimpse of it? 458 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:35,680 I think that's again what Isaiah is actually talking about a little bit that in Isaiah 459 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:41,840 53 that, that we, we viewed him, but we esteemed him not. 460 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,680 We didn't fully understand or appreciate it. 461 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:55,120 It's, it's, it's hard to know, you know, but I know Scott that it happened. 462 00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:02,760 The important thing is that we know that it happened and that he did all of that just 463 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:12,240 for me and that you and our listeners feel like it was individual and again intimate, 464 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:13,760 not just infinite. 465 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:20,560 Well, and I think that's, that's, that's a really important thing for us to build a 466 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:26,720 relationship with is that intimate component or that intimate part of the Atonement of 467 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:27,720 Jesus Christ. 468 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:30,520 How is it intimate to me and is it? 469 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,240 Because you know, just because we say that it's intimate, that does, that does mean that 470 00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:41,560 it's covered us and that does mean that every one of us and, and personally and for our 471 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:47,720 unique and individual trials, but you know, that intimacy really has to be reciprocated 472 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:56,040 in order for us to partake of the blessings of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. 473 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,400 And we also know that that's, that takes a great deal of effort on our part. 474 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,280 And this goes back to, you know, we talk about in the beginning of our podcast, we talk about 475 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,200 some important principles, getting to knowing who we are, knowing who's we are. 476 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,960 We talk about the pre-existence and the role of the Atonement of Jesus Christ and the pre-existence. 477 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,400 We talk about the fall and we've done a lot of that lately. 478 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:27,600 But it's important for us to not just recognize the effort that Jesus went through and recognize 479 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:33,160 his efforts, not just in the garden, but throughout his entire life, but culminating in the garden 480 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,680 of Gethsemane and on the cross and because of his death and resurrection, culminating 481 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:46,160 all there, this intimacy, this intimate, this intimate Atonement part of this requires work 482 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,280 on our part too. 483 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,360 We need to know him. 484 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,080 We need to spend time with him. 485 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:55,960 We need to, with our very best effort, every time we approach the sacrament table, do so 486 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:02,360 with a repentant heart and a nice single to his glory and only wanting for one thing, 487 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,520 and that's to have him in his fullness in our life. 488 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,440 We need to appreciate it, Scott. 489 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,880 We need to be grateful for it. 490 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:19,520 We need to study it, to seek to better understand it, to see our place and our role in it and 491 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:27,920 what he did for us and to understand the demands of justice and the relationship between justice 492 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,040 and mercy and how it works. 493 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:38,520 And I'm so anxious for us to get into the, what it means to repent and how repentance 494 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:44,160 works and how we can access the Atonement of Jesus Christ. 495 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:50,840 But if we'll just appreciate it and I keep going back to this scripture in Dr. and Covenants, 496 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:59,080 right, section six, look unto me in every thought, doubt not, fear not. 497 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:07,040 And then he says in the next verse, Behold the wounds which pierced my side and the 498 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:13,480 prince of the nails in my hands and feet. 499 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:19,040 It's so impressive to me. 500 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:26,520 This really gives my attention, Scott, that he, when he says come unto me, when he says 501 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:35,400 look unto me, it's not him in heaven that he wants us to see. 502 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:41,840 Elder Holland says, this is Elder Holland's words, we worship the suffering Christ. 503 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:48,160 Now, I know the ultimate symbol of our faith according to President Hinckley is not the 504 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,040 cross. 505 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,080 That's not our symbol. 506 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,600 Our symbol is the living Christ. 507 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,880 I absolutely amen. 508 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:07,000 But it's the suffering Christ who's the wounds in his side and the prince of the nails in 509 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,840 his hands and feet. 510 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,200 And we're going to talk about this soon today as we talk about the resurrection. 511 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,240 That's what we should think of when we partake of the sacrament every Sunday. 512 00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:27,080 We take that little piece of bread, torn, torn, broken, bread representing his torn, broken, 513 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,840 flesh. 514 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:37,640 And we take that little cup of water representing his blood from every pore. 515 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:42,040 So great was the anguish for the sins of his people. 516 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:48,720 And that's what we should think of. 517 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:56,040 I know it's so easy to be distracted, not just daily in the world that we live in, but 518 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,320 even in sacrament meeting. 519 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,920 So easy to be distracted, even in sacrament meeting. 520 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:13,840 It's hard to even think about these things in sacrament meeting if we're not really focused 521 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:23,640 on it, appreciating it, feel the necessary gratitude that he expects us to feel and to 522 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,560 really worship him as he expects us to worship him. 523 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,840 A couple of weeks ago in our institute class that Deb and I teach, we were talking about 524 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,840 these things. 525 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:39,240 We were talking about how important it is that our worship during the sacrament is in 526 00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:42,080 line with the things that we're talking about. 527 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:47,600 We've also said, David, that when Jesus in Matthew 11 says, come unto me, all ye that 528 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:52,320 labor and are heavy laden, that's where he's asking us to come, is to the garden. 529 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,560 And we were talking about this. 530 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,560 Garden, the foot of the cross. 531 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,120 Yeah, exactly. 532 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,040 And so we were talking about this. 533 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,880 You mentioned getting distracted even in sacrament meeting. 534 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,440 One of the young men and a great young man that comes to our institute class, he has 535 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,160 a calling in his ward, his YSA ward. 536 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:18,360 And one of his responsibilities is to find those that should be there and find out whether 537 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:23,000 they're not, which is a great thing. 538 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:29,680 And he asked me specifically, he says, but I have this job and this responsibility and 539 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:35,880 my responsibility is, is I get started looking across the entire congregation, looking for 540 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,880 these people. 541 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,240 And I'm not done by the time the sacraments passed. 542 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:44,760 So what should I do about my job, about my callings, what he said? 543 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,840 What a sweet, sweet, sweet devoted question, right? 544 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,720 But I think that's, I think that, I think that can happen. 545 00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:57,400 I think even in our own busyness that we can get distracted from going to the garden, going 546 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,120 to the foot of the cross and going to the resurrection, especially, you know, as we're 547 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,120 invited to do. 548 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,400 So sacrament, I think that's something we do need to be careful of. 549 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,400 Yeah, absolutely. 550 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,400 Scott. 551 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,120 Yeah, thank you. 552 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:23,120 Well, so on the cross at at 3pm hit the scriptures record his last statement. 553 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:30,480 He makes seven statements in the six hours that he hangs on the cross. 554 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,040 Scott, he it's recorded that he makes seven statements. 555 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,880 That's a, that's an interesting study by all of us to make that study, especially during 556 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,840 Easter week or on Easter Sunday. 557 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,440 What were the seven statements that Jesus made? 558 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,040 Seven being, I think, significant number. 559 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:58,400 Anyway, his last statement is, it is finished into thy hands. 560 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:07,440 I commend my spirit and it's recorded that he gave up the ghost. 561 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:19,320 Well, his death, the death of a God, Scott, who nothing had the power to take his life, 562 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,720 only he could volunteer to lay it down. 563 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:27,240 That was his choice. 564 00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:36,400 That was his, that was within his power as a God and yet fully human to fill the separation. 565 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,600 And there would have been some agony in that, Scott. 566 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,800 There would have been some agony. 567 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:51,600 I think that being human, being mortal, that it's been well documented of how the spirit 568 00:45:51,600 --> 00:46:01,760 wants to hang on to the body and how even the most faithful individuals, death is not 569 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,920 easy. 570 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,160 Body leaving the spirit. 571 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:14,240 We can only have a, we know a fullness of joy when the body and the spirit are reunited. 572 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:24,280 But Jesus again, as part of his sacrifice, sacrifices and lays down his mortal, yet immortal 573 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:31,600 body and goes as a spirit into the, into the spirit world. 574 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:41,760 So death occurs three PM on Friday of Passover and they have to hurry because the Sabbath 575 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,840 is going to begin at sundown on Friday. 576 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:51,680 They have to hurry and bury him according to the Jewish law. 577 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,840 You can't bury anybody on the Sabbath. 578 00:46:54,840 --> 00:47:04,880 So the sweet Joseph of Armitia offers his tomb and they prepare his body and they, they 579 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,920 bury him. 580 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:13,640 And so for some 40 hours, Scott, I mean, we, we celebrate, we talk about his death being 581 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:18,560 three days and it was on three days. 582 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:27,280 It was as the Jews reckon time he was dead for a few hours on Friday until sunset. 583 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:33,400 He was dead all day on Saturday from sunset to sunset. 584 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:39,920 And then by sunrise, Sunday morning or early in the morning, he is resurrected. 585 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:48,800 So he's, he's probably only in the spirit world separated from his body for about 40 586 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,560 hours, but three days. 587 00:47:52,560 --> 00:48:01,280 And I love the stories that we have and the eyewitnesses, Scott, that we have of the, 588 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:09,440 of the resurrection of Jesus Christ and understanding and having a testimony of the physical, 589 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:19,880 resurrection of Jesus Christ is absolutely essential and critical for us as followers 590 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:26,840 of Jesus Christ to have a testimony of and to exercise our faith in and with the eye 591 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:35,480 of faith to be able to see the resurrected, perfected now Jesus Christ. 592 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,960 He was always sinless. 593 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:46,800 He was never perfected until he received his perfected immortal body of not flesh and blood 594 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,000 now, but flesh and bone. 595 00:48:51,000 --> 00:49:00,040 And I love the idea and the fact that the first person he appears to is a woman. 596 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:08,680 And I love the story, my favorite of John chapter 20 of his appearance to Mary. 597 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:15,140 You know, the women go, go to the grave early on Sunday morning and the, the stone has been 598 00:49:15,140 --> 00:49:22,040 rolled away and they run back and they tell Peter and John is all recorded in, in the 599 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:29,280 book of John and John chapter 20 and they run back and tell Peter and John the disciples. 600 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,520 Peter and John run to the tomb. 601 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:36,440 Kind of, kind of sweet how John records that that he outruns Peter. 602 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,840 He's probably 10 years younger than Peter and he outruns Peter to the tomb and they 603 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,320 get there and John doesn't go in and tell Peter gets there and Peter gets there and 604 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:54,200 they, they look in and they see the, they see the linens folded. 605 00:49:54,200 --> 00:50:01,240 That I guess Jesus are an angel, I don't know who took the time to fold those linens, burial 606 00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:12,280 clothing, covering and, and then they run and Mary stays behind in the garden and that 607 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,160 amazing story of her thinking. 608 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:22,640 She sees the gardener and she says, you know, if, if you know where they've taken him, 609 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,000 please tell me. 610 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:36,640 And he just says, Mary and just hearing her name spoken by her savior and it's unclear 611 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:43,760 to us what really their relationship is and how close they may or may not have been, but 612 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:55,840 just hearing her name spoken by him, she knows that it's Jesus and she rushes forth and she 613 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,440 holds him. 614 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:06,120 You know, it's interesting that I love the JST change in that verse, you know, that in 615 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:16,240 John King James version says, touch me not, but in the JST it says, hold me not. 616 00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:23,720 So apparently she's holding him, hugging him, embracing him. 617 00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:28,160 And he says, Mary, you gotta let, you gotta let me go. 618 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,480 I haven't even been to my father yet. 619 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,160 I haven't even been to my father. 620 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,280 So sweet this relationship. 621 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:43,840 Well, there's, there's, we get a little insight to that as well in verse 11 of chapter 20 622 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,840 here. 623 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,880 It says that Mary stood without the sepulcher weeping. 624 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,880 Yeah. 625 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,480 Well, that's why she, she sees this man and she thinks he's the gardener because her 626 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,760 eyes are so filled with tears. 627 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,880 She's weeping so hard. 628 00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:58,880 Yeah. 629 00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,880 Yeah. 630 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:08,400 Anyway, Scott, Mary, the first witness, Mary Magdalene, the first witness of the resurrected 631 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,040 Jesus Christ. 632 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,560 Then he appears to other women. 633 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,800 He appears to the disciples that evening, Sunday evening. 634 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,600 He appears to the disciples. 635 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,320 Thomas isn't there. 636 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,840 So there's 10 disciples, 10 of the 12 apostles are there. 637 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,080 Judas, of course, has committed suicide by now. 638 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,920 And Thomas is absent. 639 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,680 How would you like to be Thomas? 640 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,680 Yeah. 641 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,680 Fomo. 642 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:33,680 Late to his meeting. 643 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,680 Yeah. 644 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,680 Yeah. 645 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,680 Yeah. 646 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,920 Late to his meeting or maybe he's running an errand for Peter or someone else who knows, 647 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:48,840 but wow, to later find out from the other disciples, the other 10 that Jesus had appeared 648 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,040 to them. 649 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,040 And it's so awesome in Luke 24. 650 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:58,880 I love the account Luke 24 where Jesus asked for something to eat. 651 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:06,720 And I think only because I don't know if immortals have to eat, but I don't think they do. 652 00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:08,800 But I guess they can. 653 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:18,240 And I think mostly because Jesus wants this to be evidence of a physical, literal resurrection. 654 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:22,760 He asked them to give him something to eat. 655 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,880 And they give him some fish. 656 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,880 And he eats. 657 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,720 I think that's so great. 658 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:34,280 You know, the witness of a physical resurrection. 659 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,800 And then in Luke 2 in Luke chapter 24. 660 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,000 In Luke as well. 661 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:45,360 There's this other story of him eating with the breaking bread with the two on the road 662 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,360 to Emmaus. 663 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,080 He appears to them. 664 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:56,240 Some of them think there's one of them named Cleopas and others believe that the second 665 00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:58,560 one was Luke. 666 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:06,280 That perhaps Jesus wanted to appear to two Gentiles to be an eyewitness to them and for 667 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,400 Luke to be an eyewitness of these events. 668 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:16,480 And Luke actually says that these this this gospel in the book of Acts are the result 669 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,000 of eyewitnesses of these events. 670 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:26,840 And anyway, I love that story on the road to Emmaus. 671 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,840 He appears to them and then he appears to 500 brethren at once. 672 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,360 Paul tells us in some sort of a priesthood meeting up in Galilee. 673 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:43,080 He appears to several up there with the apostles that are presiding in a priesthood meeting. 674 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:54,080 We have so many eyewitnesses and evidence Scott of a physical resurrection in the Bible. 675 00:54:54,080 --> 00:55:01,400 But I think one of the greatest evidences and witnesses of the physical literal resurrection 676 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:06,000 is of course in 3rd Nephi chapter 11. 677 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:11,280 When he appears sometimes shortly after his resurrection, after he is ascended into heaven, 678 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:18,600 he's with the apostles and his disciples, his followers in Jerusalem for some 40 days. 679 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,720 That's all recorded in Acts. 680 00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:27,480 And then he ascends into heaven and the angels bear witness that he'll come again. 681 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:33,440 And then he appears in 3rd Nephi chapter 11 and we know that account and it's great to 682 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,440 read some of that on Easter as well to think about his physical resurrection. 683 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:43,040 Well, and we know that before he came, he told those in Jerusalem, other sheep I have, 684 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,640 which are not of this fold, right? 685 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:45,640 And these are the sheep. 686 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,880 And so he, you know, and maybe others too. 687 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:48,880 I don't know. 688 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:49,880 I don't know. 689 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,640 But I do know that these are definitely part of those other sheep. 690 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:59,240 And he appears to them and it's amazing how he introduces himself. 691 00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:01,240 In fact, why don't you just read that, Scott? 692 00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:07,680 In the 3rd Nephi, I think beginning with about verse 10, 3rd Nephi chapter 11. 693 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:08,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 694 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:09,680 Starting with about verse 10. 695 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:17,920 When notice how he introduces himself to the 2500 people gathered at the temple in Bountiful. 696 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,440 You know, you said start at verse 10. 697 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,240 I'm going to, I'm going to start a little earlier than that because I think that this 698 00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:26,280 whole setting, Dave, is so beautiful, right? 699 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,280 The third time. 700 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,640 So they're hearing this voice. 701 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,600 Yeah, people there are hearing this voice. 702 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,600 And on this third time, they heard it. 703 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,920 And it said unto them, behold my beloved son in whom I am well pleased and whom I have 704 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,480 glorified my name. 705 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,480 Hear ye him. 706 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:46,480 Okay, so the father introduces right there and then and then I'll go to 10 now. 707 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,600 This is the introduction of Jesus of himself. 708 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,560 Yeah, well, I'll start with nine actually, and it came to pass that he stretched forth 709 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:59,600 his hand and spake unto the people saying, Now, I just want in your own mind's eye to 710 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,320 place yourself in this experience. 711 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:08,840 Behold, I am Jesus Christ, whom the prophets testified should come into the world. 712 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,160 And behold, I am the light in the life of the world. 713 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:17,120 I have drunk out of that bitter cup, which the Father hath given me, and have glorified 714 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,920 the Father in taking upon me the sins of the world. 715 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,520 There it is again. 716 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:29,320 In the which I have suffered the will of the Father in all things from the beginning. 717 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,800 That's that introduction of himself. 718 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:42,560 Jesus introducing himself, Scott, is doctrinally so critical, important. 719 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,960 You know, the prophets have testified to me, right? 720 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:45,960 Yeah, you got profits. 721 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,320 You got to have profits. 722 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,080 And then he goes on to describe the I drank the bitter cup. 723 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,600 I have fulfilled it. 724 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,880 The will of the Father. 725 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,120 I have suffered, he says, the will of the Father, right? 726 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:06,920 I suffered for all the sins of the world and consequences. 727 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:12,880 Yeah, I just, wow, I just think there's doctrinally so much in that. 728 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:18,480 And of course, these these people who are there witnessing this hearing this, they immediately 729 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:19,480 fall to the ground. 730 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:24,800 Yeah, I think that's so I think that's really telltale of this experience, right? 731 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:25,800 Let me read it 12. 732 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:32,400 And it and it came to pass when Jesus had spoken these words, the whole the whole multitude 733 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,400 fell to the earth. 734 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:34,400 Right. 735 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:39,400 You know, I might say to my astute kids, what part of the multitude, the entire multitude, 736 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,920 everybody that was there fell to the ground. 737 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,120 Right. 738 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,120 And so sweet. 739 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,120 Yeah. 740 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:51,840 How Jesus says to them, no, no, no, stand up, stand up, come, come to me. 741 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:52,840 Right. 742 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:53,840 Yeah. 743 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:54,840 I want you to stand up. 744 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:55,840 And feel. 745 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,840 No. 746 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:57,840 Come and see. 747 00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,840 Yeah. 748 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,360 Come and know. 749 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,760 And he invites them to come forth. 750 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:08,280 And they do 2500 of them one by one. 751 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:14,200 And he says to them, thrust, thrust, Scott, thrust your hands into my side. 752 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:22,320 Put your hand in thrust your hand into my side and feel the prints of the nails in my hands 753 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,440 and feet. 754 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,160 You may see and know and feel. 755 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,960 Wow. 756 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,640 And they, they all do. 757 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,800 They all become witnesses, physical witnesses. 758 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:43,520 Here's the physical evidence of the, the literal resurrection of Jesus Christ that a man died, 759 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:58,480 Scott, and came back to life and chose, chose in this case to keep the scars of his death 760 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:05,960 or the instrument of his death, the crucifixion as evidence of who he was. 761 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:12,040 You can't fake this, Scott, thrusting their hand into his side, filling the prints of 762 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,960 the nails in his hands and feet. 763 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:19,840 He chose to keep those marks and he'll show us that's according to doctrine comes section 764 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,120 45. 765 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:28,520 When he comes again in the second coming, he will show us those marks and will know 766 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:29,960 this is the Christ. 767 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:36,920 It will be unmistakable that these are the evidence of his death and his resurrection. 768 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,880 And after they do this one by one. 769 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,560 Oh man, it's so sweet. 770 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,560 Yeah. 771 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,760 I mean, I'm so glad you're right about what read what they shout. 772 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:45,760 Yeah. 773 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,800 And when they had all gone forth and witnessed for themselves, they did cry out. 774 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,440 We know we use this phrase is cry out. 775 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:59,160 I mean, when we hear the word cry out in scripture, I mean, it has, it has significant 776 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:00,560 meaning, right? 777 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,160 There's a reason it's called cry out. 778 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,560 They did cry out with one accord. 779 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,120 In other words, they were in unison. 780 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,120 They had unity. 781 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,640 They all had the spirit. 782 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:10,640 Right. 783 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:16,160 They did cry out saying Hosanna, blessed be the name of the most high God. 784 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:22,080 And they did fall down to the feet of that, the feet of Jesus and did worship him. 785 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,800 Well, I love that. 786 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,520 And then I think it's so critical that we understand the difference between hallelujah 787 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:28,520 and Hosanna. 788 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,520 Yeah. 789 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,960 You know, hallelujah is praise him. 790 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:32,960 We praise him. 791 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,680 We adore him. 792 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:45,680 That Hosanna literally means this is a cry out and it literally means save us, save us. 793 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:55,000 Hosanna, the literal resurrection of Jesus Christ, God and the testimony of the prophets 794 01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:05,240 himself, being the greatest witness and teacher that all because of him will be resurrected. 795 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:10,960 As an Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 796 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,880 First Corinthians 15. 797 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:23,400 I know that all of us and all of our loved ones, everyone, good, bad, evil, all of mankind, 798 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:36,000 man, woman, children, all mankind will be resurrected to their physical bodies perfected. 799 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:42,760 And without that physical resurrection, Scott, we would have again, we have read this in 800 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,960 second Nephi chapter nine without the physical resurrection. 801 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:52,720 We would have become all sons and daughters of a devil if there would have been no resurrection. 802 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:57,640 There's something about the importance of our physical body and the resurrection that 803 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:04,240 gives us power over Satan and gives us power to continue to grow and progress and to become 804 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:11,320 like our savior and to become like ultimately our heavenly parents. 805 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:20,200 And praise be to God for the plan of redemption that allows us to become like our heavenly 806 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:30,800 parents, which would not be possible without the suffering, the sinless life, the suffering, 807 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:36,440 the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 808 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,440 So Scott, I'm so grateful. 809 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:44,040 I'm sure there's other things that could be said about the events of Jesus Christ and 810 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:52,880 His Atonement, but I'm anxious for us to move on now and in our next podcast begin to talk 811 01:03:52,880 --> 01:04:03,000 about the effects and the blessings of the Atonement of Jesus Christ in our life. 812 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,640 It's important that we know that when He says, come to me, that we know that He's inviting 813 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:13,560 us to go to the foot of the cross and, guess what, and witness the resurrection as well. 814 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:18,040 Now that we begin to move into the effects of the Atonement of Jesus Christ, this is 815 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,520 where the healing takes place. 816 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:26,040 And this is where we get to accept that healing and qualify for that healing so that we can 817 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,120 have His Spirit always with us. 818 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:33,680 Because no matter what we face in life, if we have His Spirit with us, everything's 819 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,180 okay. 820 01:04:35,180 --> 01:04:36,760 Thanks for being with us again. 821 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:37,760 Another great podcast. 822 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,800 Dave, thanks so much for your insights and your wisdom that you share with us in part 823 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,040 2 of us each week. 824 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,080 We look forward to being with you again next week. 825 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,360 Remember that you have been redeemed through His blood. 826 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:50,360 Until next week, take care. 827 01:04:50,360 --> 01:05:15,120 We'll see you then.