1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Well, hello everybody and welcome to Redeemed Through His Blood. 2 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,480 In this podcast we discuss hope, healing and redemption through the Atonement of Jesus 3 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,480 Christ. 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,480 I'm Scott Durfey. 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,480 It's my pleasure to introduce my partner in this project, our teacher, David Durfey. 6 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,600 Thankful to be here. 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,600 Thank you. 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,600 Hi everybody. 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:42,480 And today we're so excited to be able to get into kind of the meat and potatoes of repentance 10 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:50,000 and what it is and so much of what we've done has been all pointed to this, I think. 11 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Yeah, it is. 12 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,080 Before we get started, Dave, let's just thank everybody for their emails. 13 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:01,240 We've got a lot of great emails over the last week or a week or two, some good questions, 14 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:06,520 some good comments, some good feedback and we are incorporating those comments and those 15 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:07,720 questions as we go. 16 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,320 We'll probably be able to take one or two of those at some future point and maybe even 17 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:16,520 spend a whole podcast or large portions of the podcast on those. 18 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,720 But we thank you for your participation. 19 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,960 We thank you for spreading the good word and sharing this podcast with your friends. 20 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:27,320 We've seen some big growth in terms of our listeners. 21 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:29,680 We appreciate that from you. 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,720 And the reason we appreciate that is because we are just grateful that people are being 23 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:44,680 able to understand and have this vision or this perspective of repentance and the forgiveness 24 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:50,800 process all in the effort to bring us closer to Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. 25 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,000 If you have questions, if you have comments, we invite you to send those to us. 26 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,560 Here's our email address. 27 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,520 It is, heredeemsusatgmail.com. 28 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,640 He redeems us at gmail.com. 29 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,080 So send us those questions, send us those comments. 30 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,160 We get back to them. 31 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,360 I try to respond to every single one. 32 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,200 If we miss you, though, be patient. 33 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,960 We'll be making efforts to make sure that that happens. 34 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,400 So before we get into this week's topic, just a couple of things. 35 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,920 I had an experience yesterday I'd like to share. 36 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:26,840 We're recording this on a Monday, which is not typical for us. 37 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,800 We typically record on Tuesday, but because of circumstances in both of our lives, we're 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,040 recording this on a Monday. 39 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,600 It'll still be released on a Tuesday. 40 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,120 But having said that, yesterday, Dave is part of my Sabbath worship. 41 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,600 I was able to attend missionary farewell. 42 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,840 For those of you who aren't familiar, maybe not members of our church or what not, surely 43 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,280 you're familiar with the missionary program as part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day 44 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,280 Saints. 45 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,760 I'm sure everybody is. 46 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,080 White shirts, bicycles, all of that. 47 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,960 In your neighborhoods, in your cities, if you're seeing them, wave to them, stop and talk to 48 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,120 them, invite them in. 49 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,960 But I have an FU who is leaving to go on a mission. 50 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,680 He's been called to leave for South Africa, the Johannesburg mission, and he's going 51 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,040 to leave in a week or two from now. 52 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:23,080 But I wanted to just share an experience that I had in sacrament meeting yesterday after 53 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:28,560 we had partaken of the emblems of the Last Supper, the sacrament and renewed covenants 54 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,880 and experienced that spiritual connection. 55 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:38,640 Again, my nephew, who is going on a mission, was talking about, now just a little bit about 56 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,640 him. 57 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,760 He's a really good football player, a star athlete in the state, a top recruit. 58 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,400 He'll be playing college football when he comes home from his mission at a major university 59 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,400 here. 60 00:03:50,400 --> 00:04:00,720 And on a scholarship, he was recruited by many, many, many big teams and colleges around. 61 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:06,360 But he shared about, he told the story, Dave, he said that when he was in the early years 62 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,440 of his football career in high school, that there were a lot of guys on the team that 63 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,960 kind of took him under their wing, mentor team, kind of helped him along. 64 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,880 You can imagine, you know, as a young boy, I remember when I was a little kid, a younger 65 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,800 guy looking up to the juniors and seniors, when I was a freshman in sophomore, just thinking 66 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,160 they were absolutely adults. 67 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,280 Well, I'm sure that was his experience too. 68 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:32,960 But one of the things that really stood out to me that he shared, and this is the message, 69 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,680 he said, before his first varsity game, he got a phone call from one of his, one of these 70 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:45,760 guys, and they said, Kay Luke, before each of our games, we go to the temple. 71 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,360 And it looks okay. 72 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:53,880 He says, so early in the morning on Fridays before their varsity football games, a good 73 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,080 core of this team would go to the temple. 74 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,400 And he said, he said, we wanted to go to the temple to help Heavenly Father, to help us 75 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,480 to know that Heavenly Father knows what's really important to us and to keep in perspective 76 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:12,400 for ourselves what's really important to us so that we don't get out of kilter, so we 77 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,600 don't get off balance in our approach to life thinking that this football thing is more 78 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,760 important than anything else because it's not. 79 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:24,080 And the lesson behind that for me was, you know, oftentimes we get to comments, we get 80 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,240 questions, how do we help our kids? 81 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,200 How do we help our kids stay on the path? 82 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,960 How do we help our kids experience the things that you guys, Scott and David, are talking 83 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,960 about? 84 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:43,360 What a great example of choosing the right friends and putting our lives in attunement 85 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:49,080 with our Heavenly Father so that we can attract and be attracted to those kinds of friends. 86 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:55,080 And so I think the message there for all of us perhaps is friends are a big deal and helping 87 00:05:55,080 --> 00:06:02,040 our kids and even ourselves choose people in our lives that will enable us and inspire 88 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,160 us and encourage us to live according to our Heavenly Father's will is kind of an important 89 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,160 thing. 90 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,560 So I wanted to share that was an important experience I had yesterday, Dave. 91 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,520 Yeah, that's such a sweet experience. 92 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,080 And I think they were a pretty winning team. 93 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,040 I think how many state championships? 94 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,560 Two, yeah, I think two. 95 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:31,640 Two state championships and it's fun to watch Luke Pitt play occasionally. 96 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:40,040 And anyway, what a sweet thing that those young men, you know, sometimes you watch them play 97 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:46,360 football and you have no idea what's really going on or the foundation that they're really 98 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:47,720 based their lives on. 99 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:55,200 And I think it all comes down again to relationships and they went not so that they would be better 100 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,880 football players. 101 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:02,080 They went so that they would be better individuals and that they could show their Heavenly Father 102 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,320 what was important to them. 103 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,960 And what a what an amazing way to live your life. 104 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:15,000 And now he's going on a mission because he knows what's important and he's putting his 105 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:21,200 relationship with his Heavenly Father and with Jesus Christ above everything else in 106 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,200 his life. 107 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,080 And what a great way to start your life. 108 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:35,560 Yeah, we can all learn from that, do better and pray that all of us will make the temple 109 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,680 more of a part of our life. 110 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,720 Yeah, it's actually just a natural progression of where we are now, right? 111 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,680 I mean, everything that we're trying to do and talk about and encourage us all to consider 112 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:54,320 and participate in is more of a more pure and complete coming unto our Lord and Savior, 113 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,320 Jesus Christ. 114 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,040 And the pinnacle of that here on this planet is the temple. 115 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,200 And we're grateful to know that. 116 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,840 Well today, Dave, over the last couple of episodes we've talked about what repentance 117 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,960 is not. 118 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,200 And then we talked about pride and fear and help. 119 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,320 What keeps us from repenting? 120 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,320 What keeps us from repenting? 121 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:19,600 The roadblocks, the stumbling blocks, you know, all of those things, well today we dive into 122 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,960 what it is and why it's important. 123 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,800 Yeah, I'm excited about this. 124 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,640 This is where, you know, I think it's really important to understand what repentance is 125 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:30,640 not. 126 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:36,280 I think it's really important to understand what keeps us from repenting. 127 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:43,800 But now we really get a touch on the positive and the blessings and the joy, even though 128 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,800 it's not easy. 129 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,760 It is simple, Scott. 130 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:54,080 I want to begin maybe today in our discussion by quoting one of my favorite quotes from 131 00:08:54,080 --> 00:09:01,440 Hugh Nibley who in this quote he begins by asking the question, who is righteous? 132 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:06,440 And his answer is anyone who is repenting. 133 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:13,080 And then the quote goes on, no matter how bad he has been, if he is repenting, he is 134 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,360 a righteous man. 135 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,240 There is hope for him. 136 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:24,400 And no matter how good he has been all his life, if he or she is not repenting, he is 137 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,920 a wicked man. 138 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,400 The difference is which way you are facing. 139 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:36,680 The man on the top of the stairs facing down is much worse off than the man at the bottom 140 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:39,520 of the stairs facing up. 141 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:46,680 When the direction we are facing is towards Jesus Christ, that is repentance. 142 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:52,080 And that is what determines whether we are good or bad. 143 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,280 I just, I love that because it's kind of the essence. 144 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,440 There's another quote that I love that talks about from Elder Maxwell that we need to live 145 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,720 in a posture of repentance. 146 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:11,360 We need to be, not just repenting every day, we need to live in a state of repentance, 147 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:17,760 overcoming our pride and our fears through the power of the Atonement of Jesus Christ 148 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,400 is what really repentance is all about. 149 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:26,760 So as we jump into it, we should begin to maybe to describe what are the conditions 150 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,360 of repentance. 151 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:33,120 These conditions of repentance I think are really kind of the beginning point. 152 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,640 If we want to kind of go through the process of repentance, I think this is where it really 153 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:38,640 begins. 154 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,440 We've talked about faith in Christ of course. 155 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,180 There's no power in repentance without faith in Jesus Christ. 156 00:10:45,180 --> 00:10:49,360 So maybe that's where it really truly begins. 157 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:56,920 But now as we have the adequate faith to begin the process, one must begin to understand 158 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:03,920 the importance of what I call the conditions of repentance, which are, and in Elder Anderson's 159 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:11,120 book they're called the, I think the three friends of repentance, three beloved friends, 160 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,080 that's the chapter in Elder Anderson's book. 161 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:21,080 They are a broken heart and a contrite spirit and godly sorrow. 162 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:29,880 So maybe I can begin by trying to describe what repentance is by sharing an experience 163 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,160 with a missionary I had at the missionary training center. 164 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,360 This is also an Elder Anderson's book. 165 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,480 I'll maybe give a little more detail. 166 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,840 When serving as a branch president there at the MTC, of course there's no other place 167 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:49,320 on the face of this earth, Scott, as Luke's going to find out in every other missionary 168 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,560 that goes there. 169 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:57,000 There is no place on earth where there's more repentance taking place in one place than 170 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,320 at the missionary training center. 171 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,040 And that's why it's so spiritual. 172 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,040 Yeah, yeah. 173 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:07,080 It's so spiritual there because there's so much repentance taking place there. 174 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:13,720 Anyway, I had a missionary come in and repent on the first Sunday that he was there. 175 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,720 I was told about all the things that he had done wrong and it kind of went something like 176 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,720 this. 177 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:25,000 He began to confess to me by saying, well, let's just make this really short. 178 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,640 I've done everything. 179 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,880 Well, there you go. 180 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,520 I've done everything. 181 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:37,720 I said, okay, Elder, let's kind of back up just a little bit and tell me what. 182 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,400 I told you I've done everything. 183 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:49,000 And it was a kind of a long session with him because he had just about done everything. 184 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:55,480 And it was obvious from the things that he had not repented of, not confessed or not 185 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,960 taken care of with priesthood leaders before he came into mission. 186 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:04,320 And because of his attitude and where he was at, it was obvious to me that he was going 187 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,320 to be sent home. 188 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,440 The brother would send him home. 189 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,880 I know he was from out of state. 190 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,240 I think he was from Missouri, happened to be from Missouri. 191 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:20,440 When the brother did finally, well, only a day or two later, the announcement was given 192 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,640 to me that he would be sent home. 193 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:30,120 So I called him in and gave him the news and he was really mad about that, really upset 194 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,120 and understand. 195 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:37,640 I told him that I'd come back the next day and help him to part. 196 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,880 And I went back the next day to give him an exit interview and I remember he came down 197 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:48,560 on his Levi's and a golf shirt and put his earring back in his ear and he was upset about 198 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:50,200 the whole situation. 199 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,680 I asked him a question, do you even want to come back here? 200 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:58,160 Is there even a chance you want to come back here? 201 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:03,280 And he thought about it for a minute and he said, well, I don't know. 202 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:12,400 And to try to make a point, I firmly said, Elder, you can never come back here. 203 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:18,440 You will never come back here until you have a broken heart and contrite spirit and you 204 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,880 obviously don't. 205 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:26,680 And that kind of got his attention and he looked at me with kind of a quizzical look 206 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:33,240 on his face and searching and he said, well, tell me, President, how could I break my 207 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,760 own heart? 208 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,960 I'd never been asked that question. 209 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,480 I talked a lot about a contrite spirit and broken heart in the MTC and nobody had ever 210 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,680 asked me that question. 211 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,720 And I thought, what a great question. 212 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,600 And I could tell that it was sincere. 213 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,520 He was asking me a sincere question. 214 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:57,680 And I knew by the power of the Holy Ghost the answer, Scott. 215 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:03,360 And I think this is what it takes to fulfill the conditions of repentance. 216 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,080 And so I answered this missionary. 217 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:16,320 I said, well, Elder, when you come to a point in your repentance, when you know the pain 218 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:26,160 and the suffering that you cost a God, even Jesus Christ, when you come to see him in 219 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:34,240 Gethsemane and on the cross and you begin to feel even a small portion of his pain and 220 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:40,520 his suffering, which he suffered for you that you might not suffer. 221 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:49,640 When you feel that, when you see that with an eye of faith, your heart will be very broken 222 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,400 in your spirit contrite. 223 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,360 And I could tell he got it. 224 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,880 Then he went home. 225 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:07,320 And I called him, I think every week on Sunday for several weeks. 226 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:14,640 Scott, when he came back and he did come back and he was a totally different person, and 227 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,960 I could tell he had been to Gethsemane and back. 228 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,960 I asked him. 229 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:24,000 So, Elder, please tell me, tell me, what's the change? 230 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:30,320 And he shared with me his experience and the essence of it was that he had tried to read 231 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:35,480 the Book of Mormon hours a day and had read the Book of Mormon while he had been home 232 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,000 in less than he had been home for six months. 233 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,480 And when he came back, he said he had read the Book of Mormon, I think four or five times, 234 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:50,120 but it was the reading of the Book of Mormon when he finally got a glimpse and a vision 235 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:57,520 of what Christ had done for him and what his sins had done to Christ. 236 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:04,840 He knew and experienced what Godly sorrow was, what it meant to have a broken heart, 237 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:10,240 contrite spirit, and after that, Scott, after meeting those conditions of repentance with 238 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,040 faith and those conditions, repentance went really quickly. 239 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:20,840 You know, Dave, a lot of us, and when I say us, I do mean us, me included in this, I think 240 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,720 that there's times in my life when there have been repentance that's been necessary. 241 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,200 There's times in all of our lives when repentance is necessary. 242 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,600 That's every day. 243 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,680 But some big sins, little sins, we've talked about that, we've alluded to that. 244 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:41,400 And I think that as he went home and as he had that experience and contemplated the experience 245 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:49,200 of until you can understand what you caused Jesus Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane, 246 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,200 you will never be able to fully repent. 247 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,160 I think that goes for all of us. 248 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,040 That's absolutely true for all of us. 249 00:17:55,040 --> 00:18:02,480 I know that as I have tried to compartmentalize my sins and repent of this or repent of that, 250 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,920 and I'll get to those other things as time allows or when I get courageous enough or 251 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,840 when they become problematic enough that I need to deal with them up front. 252 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,320 But you know, when we go to Gethsemane, when we go to the cross, when we go to back in 253 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:22,080 those early episodes, and I think that, you know, 5, 6, 7, 8, right in those episodes right 254 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,720 in there as we talk about those things, and we talk about, and you've said this multiple 255 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:34,520 times in various episodes of these podcasts, Dave, is that when Jesus says, come unto me, 256 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,640 where does He want us to come? 257 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,720 Well, that's where He wants us to come. 258 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:39,720 You've said that. 259 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,640 I think we even approached that again in our last, most recent podcast prior to this one. 260 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,460 But that's where He asks us to come. 261 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:52,600 As we go there, as that young missionary went there, and as we all go there, the promises 262 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,200 can be sure that we will fill His Spirit. 263 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:05,440 We will fill our sins, our troubles, our pains, and all things in our life that is not like 264 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,820 Him. 265 00:19:06,820 --> 00:19:09,140 We will fill those things being paid for. 266 00:19:09,140 --> 00:19:11,360 We will fill those things being reconciled. 267 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:18,320 We will fill a cleansing and a wholeness come into us that can't come into us in any other 268 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,320 way. 269 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,920 And that's what this young missionary felt, Dave. 270 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,960 Well, what we really feel when we go to Gethsemane and we stand at the foot of the cross and 271 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:36,040 we see the pain and the suffering of Jesus Christ for my sins, for your sins, knowing 272 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,120 He would do all of that just for you. 273 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:44,360 We know He did it for all of the world, but that He would do it just for me. 274 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:54,080 I am filled with such gratitude for Him and such love for Him, and I feel His love for 275 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,360 me. 276 00:19:55,360 --> 00:20:06,720 That is the motivating power that every individual must have to truly repent of their sins, to 277 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,480 repent of sinning. 278 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:17,240 I think we've said before, Scott, that one of the real misconceptions that keeps us from 279 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:25,800 feeling forgiven of sin is that people try to repent of a sin instead of repenting of 280 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,960 sinning. 281 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,440 We need to repent of sinning. 282 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:37,240 It's ludicrous to think that I can repent of fornication, yet committing all of these 283 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:44,000 other sins of omission, not reading my scriptures, not saying my prayers, not keeping this habit 284 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,160 day holy, not paying my tithing, not magnifying. 285 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:55,560 I mean, repentance has to be seen as laying all of our sins on the altar. 286 00:20:55,560 --> 00:21:02,080 Last week we talked about fear and pride, and I should have read this scripture then, 287 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:09,680 but I think it kind of, in essence, ties together what we said last week with what we want to 288 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,840 say this week. 289 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,280 It talks about fearing not. 290 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:19,240 Fear is such a stumbling block, roadblock to our repentance, and Alma just said it's 291 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,600 so beautifully here. 292 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:26,840 I remember using this scripture several times on my mission to prepare people to receive 293 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,480 the invitation to be baptized. 294 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,920 I love this scripture. 295 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:38,280 It's really Alma 7, 14 and 15, but I'm just going to read 15. 296 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:47,880 Ye, I say unto you, come and fear not, and lay aside every sin which easily doth beset 297 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,560 you, which doth bind you down to destruction. 298 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:58,040 Ye, come and go forth and show unto your God that you're willing to repent of your sins 299 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:07,200 – plural sins – every sin, and enter into a covenant with him to keep his commandments, 300 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,920 and witness it unto him this day by going into the waters of baptism. 301 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:18,720 So repentance is truly not trying to be forgiven of asian. 302 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,520 I know so many of my students would come in and they couldn't figure out why they didn't 303 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,520 feel forgiven. 304 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:32,440 They had done everything they could to repent of some sin of immorality, often was the case, 305 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,600 and they would ask me why they don't feel forgiven. 306 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:43,160 They've confessed, they've been clean, they've stopped dating, whatever, and they 307 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,520 would say, and I still don't feel forgiven. 308 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,560 And I would ask, are you reading the scriptures every day? 309 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,840 Are you praying every day, every night? 310 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,680 Are you paying your tithing? 311 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,840 Tell me about what you do on the Sabbath. 312 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:07,760 And as we really went into what it takes to live the Gospel, which I think is part of 313 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:17,520 the posture of repentance that we should all be in, it became pretty clear why many individuals 314 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,960 that confided in me didn't feel forgiven. 315 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:26,880 Well let's go back to your opening quote by Brother Hugh Nibley, where he says, the man 316 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,840 at the top of the stairs facing down is much worse off than the man at the bottom of the 317 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,880 stairs who's facing up. 318 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:39,760 The direction we are facing, that's repentance, and that's what determines whether we are 319 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,280 good or bad. 320 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,880 So it's an entire posture. 321 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,880 It's not. 322 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,080 It's not where you face and the direction. 323 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,200 It's not where you're at. 324 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,280 It's the direction you face. 325 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,800 And that's true repentance. 326 00:23:54,800 --> 00:24:01,320 As Deb and I teach this class in our YSA, a young single adult institute class at BYU 327 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:06,720 for BYU students and University of Utah Valley University students, that's one of the things 328 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,920 that we really tried to drive home, is that repentance is really about turning away from 329 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:18,320 everything that is not like him and fully facing him, regardless of where we are. 330 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,000 It doesn't matter if we're at the bottom of the stairs, halfway up the stairs or at the 331 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,920 top of the proverbial staircase. 332 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,520 It's where we're facing. 333 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,520 Prodigal son. 334 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,520 Right. 335 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:33,760 You know, here's the prodigal son wanting to come home was facing his father while the 336 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:40,200 other self-righteous brother was living at home and had his back to his father, probably. 337 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,200 Probably. 338 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,440 Well, at least complaining that he wasn't getting what his brother was going to get. 339 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,760 So yeah. 340 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,600 I know it's true. 341 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,160 It's not where you're at. 342 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,680 It's which direction you face. 343 00:24:53,680 --> 00:25:00,160 The Hebrew word for repentance, Scott, if I'm pronouncing it right, is shubh. 344 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:08,840 And it literally means in the Hebrew to turn back, to return to God, to turn around, to 345 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,200 restore, refresh, repair. 346 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:17,800 And in the Greek, metnaio means to change one's mind for the better. 347 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:26,240 It means to change, to experience a change of perspective, how you see things even, not 348 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:33,080 just change of behavior, but even how you see yourself and to see things as they really 349 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:42,080 are, and metnaio also literally means to heartily amend and to change one's sinful past. 350 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:51,200 However, I think it's really important that we have this perspective of repentance, Scott. 351 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,200 So many people think that repentance is changing themselves. 352 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,840 I don't think that's repentance. 353 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,080 Consider this. 354 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,600 I'll ask you a question, I'll have you respond. 355 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,600 What is the difference between these two perspectives? 356 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:17,440 Seeing repentance as changing myself or seeing repentance as being changed by a higher power? 357 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,440 Yeah. 358 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:24,480 So therein, I believe, lies the difference in how we approach and whether it will be 359 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,840 effective or not. 360 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,560 If I am up to me to change me, if it's up to me to change me, that just ain't never 361 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,440 going to happen. 362 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,440 Because here's the problem. 363 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,240 It's been made for a minute. 364 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,600 Well, yeah, but I'm talking about change that last long time. 365 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,600 Yeah, yeah. 366 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,880 You know, I talked about last week, you know, being a recovering alcoholic again, you know, 367 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:51,520 in recovery and having 20 plus years of sobriety that I work on daily to continue to achieve. 368 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,920 I can't put that on the shelf. 369 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,000 I work on that daily. 370 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,720 But here's the problem with that, David. 371 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:03,960 I was only able to do that because I did embrace the help of Heavenly Father in recovery. 372 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,480 We call it my higher power. 373 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,280 But I did embrace that and that was the only way it could. 374 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,840 I think last week I even said this or the week prior that quitting was not a problem 375 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,840 for me. 376 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,840 I could change. 377 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,840 Yeah. 378 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,840 I could make changes on the daily. 379 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,840 How many times do you quit? 380 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,840 Five or six times a day sometimes. 381 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,360 And so I could make the change on the daily sometimes on the hourly, but that change was 382 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,560 not lasting and that and it was hollow. 383 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:34,760 And it was a ton of work on my part and it was exhausting and it created a lot of discouragement 384 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,680 for me and others that go through the same process. 385 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:43,000 There's a lot of discouragement there because me of myself, I'm inadequate to affect those 386 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,000 kinds of changes. 387 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,600 And it was never intended for me to be effective in those kinds of changes. 388 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:55,640 The intention here is for me to learn to wholly rely on the merits of Christ who is mighty 389 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,920 to save. 390 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,360 And that's it. 391 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:05,520 And so once that changed from, okay, Scott, just, you know, and people tell you this, right? 392 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:11,160 People will say, Scott, just stop Scott or whoever, just stop doing whatever it is that 393 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:17,240 you're doing a little more willpower, a little more effort, a little more grit, you know, 394 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,540 and we talk about and there's nothing wrong with it. 395 00:28:19,540 --> 00:28:24,280 And there's nothing wrong with willpower and there's nothing wrong with resolve unless 396 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,400 it's attached to ourselves in and of ourselves. 397 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,680 We can't save ourselves. 398 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,680 Who can save us? 399 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,400 Only he can save us. 400 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,400 And so if my repentance is up to me, it won't happen. 401 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:41,720 If my repentance and my change is up to him, then it has to happen because that's why he 402 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,640 went through what he went through. 403 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:53,360 Well, in the real sense of the word repentance, Scott, I mean, repentance means to be redeemed. 404 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:59,920 I think that the redemption part of this is sometimes not as emphasized as it should 405 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,040 be or not as focused on as it should be. 406 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,880 There are so many people who can change their behaviors, right? 407 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,120 And some do it very well and some do it permanently. 408 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:16,400 I'm sure there's lots of, again, we've said this, I'm sure there's lots of agnostics 409 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:23,760 and even atheists who can, through their willpower and self mastery, that they can overcome 410 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:29,640 certain behaviors in their life, maybe even how they see things in their life. 411 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,680 And they can probably live pretty good lives. 412 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:41,560 Repentance has to be a relationship with Jesus Christ that our forgiveness, I mean, 413 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,160 you can change and still not be forgiven. 414 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,600 You can change by the Lord Jesus Christ or by our Heavenly Father. 415 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,480 You can change and still not be redeemed. 416 00:29:52,480 --> 00:30:03,240 Repentance in the purest, holiest sense means that not only are we changed through the Atonement 417 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:09,080 of Jesus Christ and by the power of the Holy Spirit, which administers the Atonement of 418 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:15,800 Christ and His power in our lives, but it means that we are redeemed. 419 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,920 It means that we are saved. 420 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,920 It means that we have a relationship. 421 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:27,440 It means that we are seeking to become more like Him, that we are seeking to become sanctified, 422 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,280 born again. 423 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:37,360 And, hopefully, that is the essence of repentance, not just changing a behavior. 424 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:44,880 I love this scripture that in Helaman it says, and also that you might know the coming of 425 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:52,600 Jesus Christ, and it says in verse 13, and if you believe on His name, ye will repent 426 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,200 of all your sins. 427 00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:04,640 There it is again, plural, that thereby ye may have a remission of them through His merits. 428 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:14,400 Having a remission of sins is more than just stopping bad behaviors and adopting good behaviors. 429 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:21,480 Remission of sins means redemption through Jesus Christ and His merits, not through our 430 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,480 efforts. 431 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,720 That's Helaman chapter 14 verse 13. 432 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,720 Thank you. 433 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:35,720 So, I just think that we, to see repentance right, to see what it really is, gives us the 434 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:42,760 power and the motivation and will allow us to focus on the right things to be able to 435 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:48,320 go through the process, which isn't necessarily always an easy process. 436 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:56,920 I know it's simple, but it can be really hard to put your will on the altar. 437 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:04,040 In essence, repentance is having your will swallowed up in the will of Jesus Christ. 438 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:10,520 I wrote this down several years ago and would use it in my class when I would teach the 439 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,920 course. 440 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:18,300 This is the best I could do to try to define how I feel about repentance. 441 00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:27,400 Reference is to turn around and face the Savior, Jesus Christ, to receive His atonement and 442 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,480 to give yourself holy and completely to Him. 443 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:40,800 It means to surrender your agency to Him and to have your will swallowed up in His will. 444 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:46,160 C.S. Lewis wrote, The Christian way is different. 445 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,600 It's harder and it's easier. 446 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,840 Christ says, Give me all your sins. 447 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,080 I don't want so much of your time and so much of your work. 448 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,560 I want all of you. 449 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:07,080 I have not come into your life to torment your natural self, but to kill it. 450 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:13,160 Hand over the natural self, all the desires which you think innocent, as well as the ones 451 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,480 you think wicked, the whole outfit. 452 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,120 I will give you a new self instead. 453 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,200 In fact, I will give you myself. 454 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,160 My own shall become yours. 455 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,280 That's what I think it means to have our will swallowed up in the will of Christ. 456 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:38,960 When we speak of a broken heart, Scott, it's not about Christ mending our heart. 457 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:44,920 In Ezekiel 33, he says, I will give you a new heart. 458 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,240 It's about getting a new heart, not having a mended heart. 459 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:57,760 That's the power of the Atonement of Jesus Christ and that's how we should see repentance. 460 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,560 You know, Dave, as we talk about this, you know, we talk about broken heart. 461 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,040 We talk about contrite spirit. 462 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:08,120 We talk about godly sorrow and how those things are, how we come about and start putting 463 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,280 the conditions of repentance into our lives. 464 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,480 I like this little paragraph out of the book. 465 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:20,480 When I say the book, the Divine Gift of Forgiveness by Elder Neil L. Anderson. 466 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,360 It says here, the Lord has told us that if we come forward with a broken heart and a 467 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,440 contrite spirit, he will not just repair our heart and cleanse our spirit. 468 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,360 He will give us a new heart. 469 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,360 And that's what you're talking about. 470 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,320 I mean, we just, we become different. 471 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,320 We become new. 472 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,200 We become more like him. 473 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:46,480 And you know, you also mentioned earlier, made reference to another great quote by Elder 474 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,920 Neil L. A. Maxwell. 475 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:53,800 He said, if we choose the course of steady improvement, which is clearly the course of 476 00:34:53,800 --> 00:35:01,360 discipleship, we will become more righteous and can move away from what may be initially 477 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:09,080 a mere acknowledgement of Jesus onto admiration of Jesus and then onto adoration of Jesus. 478 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,520 And finally, to the emulation of Jesus, we become like him. 479 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,520 Yeah. 480 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,280 So, ad, acknowledgement, admiration. 481 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,520 Think of the different levels here in your relationship with Jesus Christ, which Elder 482 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,160 Maxwell teaches us here. 483 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,160 And I know there's more. 484 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,240 You want to finish that. 485 00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:30,800 But the thing of the different levels, acknowledgement, admiration. 486 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,440 Are you on that level? 487 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,880 Are you on the level of adoration? 488 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:41,720 Or are you on the higher level of emulation? 489 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:46,800 And so, you know, I do want to finish the quote, but just to continue on what your, what your 490 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,000 thought process is there as well. 491 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,680 You know, this is how it works. 492 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,000 You know, when he says, come on to me and we, you know, there's a few things in scripture 493 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,720 that we're commanded to do, you know, we're commanded to love him and love others. 494 00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:03,560 We're commanded to be like him and, you know, as we become like him, this is how it may 495 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,560 work for us. 496 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,760 You know, we come to know him. 497 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,600 And so, as we get to know him a little bit, first off, we acknowledge that he exists and 498 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,800 that he existed and that he was who he said he was to a degree. 499 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,160 And then we become admirers of Jesus in the admiration process. 500 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:24,560 And there's people in my life who I've admired over my life and that admiration leads me to 501 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,680 want to be a little bit more like them. 502 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,640 I mean, that's just naturally who I become. 503 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,120 And then we learn to love him. 504 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,560 That's what adoration means. 505 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,720 You know, we adore him. 506 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:41,840 And as we learn to adore Jesus Christ, finally, the emulation of Jesus is well in effect in 507 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,840 our lives. 508 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:48,880 Now that's something that requires constant nurturing, constant effort on our part. 509 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,400 And then he goes on in the process, in that process of striving to become more like him 510 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,480 through steady improvement. 511 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,480 And that's a key through steady improvement. 512 00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,960 That's very important. 513 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:10,440 We must be in the posture of repentance, turning away and turning towards him, even if no major 514 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,840 transgression is involved. 515 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,440 You know, that takes work. 516 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,480 That takes so much faith and work. 517 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:23,920 Instead of relying on our own best efforts, we need to learn to rely on the merits of 518 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,960 Jesus Christ. 519 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,600 We've said this before. 520 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,520 Redemption is the goal, not assimilation. 521 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,600 So let's be clear here. 522 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:45,440 We want to emulate the life of Jesus Christ, which is so much more than just trying to 523 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,000 assimilate good habits. 524 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,240 It's becoming more holy. 525 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:53,640 It's becoming sanctified. 526 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:59,360 It's developing a relationship with our Heavenly Father and doing His will. 527 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:07,840 The gospel of Jesus Christ is not a system of assimilation of good habits. 528 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:17,760 The gospel of Jesus Christ is a system of redemption through Jesus Christ and His atonement. 529 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,040 That's the gospel of Jesus Christ, and that's how we should see it. 530 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:30,200 I love what President Kimball said many years ago and have used this quote so often. 531 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,360 I think this is from his book, The Miracle of Forgiveness. 532 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:40,160 But he said, in connection with repentance, the scriptures use the phrase with all his 533 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,160 heart. 534 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:47,320 In other words, we need to be repenting with all our heart, with all our soul, with all 535 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,640 of our being. 536 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,000 So many people, I think, just think it's a change of behavior. 537 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,720 It's so much more than that. 538 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:57,520 Obviously, this rules out any reservations. 539 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:03,720 Repentance must involve an all-out total surrender to the Lord. 540 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:10,800 That transgressor is not fully repentance, who neglects his tithing, misses his meetings, 541 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:18,600 breaks the Sabbath, fails in his prayers, does not sustain the prophet, breaks the word 542 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:24,840 of wisdom, does not love the Lord nor his fellow men. 543 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:33,680 Reforming adulterer who drinks or curses or does so many other wrong things is not repentant. 544 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:39,160 God cannot forgive unless the transgressor shows a true repentance, which spreads to 545 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,120 all the areas of his life. 546 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:50,440 So often, again, we have a tendency to focus on the big sins of commission while we neglect 547 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:56,600 the smaller sins, but sins nonetheless, of omission. 548 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,240 And it kind of goes back to James. 549 00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:00,880 I know this is in St. James, in the scripture. 550 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,480 I don't have it right here in front of me, where he says, if you omit in one area, if 551 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:11,400 you fell in one area, if you sin in one area, you've sinned in them all. 552 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,600 And that's kind of the essence of what I think what President Kimball is saying here, Scott, 553 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,400 that it has to be a total surrender. 554 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,000 It has to be seeking to live all the commandments. 555 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,200 And I know we won't. 556 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,200 We can't. 557 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,200 We're mortal. 558 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,200 We're fallen. 559 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,200 We're sinners. 560 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,920 We'll sin every day. 561 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,920 But it's the effort. 562 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,000 It's what's in our heart. 563 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:41,240 It's the desires of our heart and the focus that we have in our minds that I think is so 564 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:44,040 important in this in this effort. 565 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,040 Yeah. 566 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:51,040 So the reference that you just made mention of is in James chapter two and it starts 567 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,120 verse nine. 568 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:58,720 But if you have respect to persons, you commit sin and are convinced of the law of the transgressors. 569 00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:06,440 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, for whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet 570 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,320 offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 571 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,760 You know, Dave, I've used that and I've heard other people actually use that scripture too. 572 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,920 And I think he's talking the law of gospel, not law of Moses there. 573 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,920 Right. 574 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,920 Yeah. 575 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,920 Right. 576 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,120 And so, you know, I've used that and I know other people have too is, you know, kind of 577 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,120 a shield. 578 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,040 You know, don't judge me. 579 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,640 You know, look at your own self. 580 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,280 Look, you know, I have you sinned today. 581 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,160 If you've sinned today, you're guilty of all of it. 582 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,160 Don't judge me. 583 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,160 Judge you. 584 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,160 You know. 585 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,080 But now my perspective on that's different today. 586 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,760 And it's not just today, but it's been this way for quite some time now that I see that 587 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,960 now as a mirror, not a shield. 588 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,720 I look at that scripture as a mirror for me. 589 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:49,640 You know, it's not for me to read to somebody else who might, I might be feeling like is 590 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,920 judging me for whatever reason. 591 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:59,400 But if I take verse 10, for whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in one point, 592 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,640 he's guilty of all. 593 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,280 And so I need to remember that too. 594 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:10,880 So I can't just repent of whatever a certain favorite sin or certain unfavorite sin and 595 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,320 hang on to others and still be repentant. 596 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:20,440 And until I'm repentant, I will, I have very little hope, no hope of having the entirety, 597 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,520 the full gift of the Holy Ghost that work in my life. 598 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:31,400 And I think we need to remind ourselves and our listeners, Scott, of this amazing scripture 599 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:39,680 where the Lord promises us, yea, as often as my people repent, will I forgive them their 600 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,040 trespasses against me? 601 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:48,640 I know that I don't know how it works for you or for others, but I know that I have 602 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:54,560 to repent of oftentimes the same sins repeatedly. 603 00:42:54,560 --> 00:43:03,120 And they often come back to haunt me and I've often cried to know why that is, why I have 604 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:10,560 certain tendencies or propensities or why that's such a weakness for me that I keep 605 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,160 praying and will become a strength someday. 606 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:18,440 But I just think it's really comforting and well, comforting to know that the Lord will 607 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:25,880 forgive us even if the natural man keeps kicking in over and over and over again committing 608 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:26,880 the same sins. 609 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,920 What was the reference on that? 610 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,000 That's Mosiah 26, verse 30. 611 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,000 So yea. 612 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,280 And it's repeated in other places in the scriptures. 613 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:41,160 And I think that as we remember that, it certainly helps us to lay hold on and to maintain grip 614 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:48,720 of the iron rod, the Word of God, to help us to have the happiness and to partake of 615 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:52,840 the fruit of the tree of Lehi's vision, right? 616 00:43:52,840 --> 00:44:00,200 And as we do that, I think that we begin to fill him more closely and more fully in our 617 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,440 lives at all times. 618 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:08,040 I know many priesthood leaders right now, having been a bishop, branch president of 619 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:13,880 MTC and stake presidencies, I know this scripture is often used. 620 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:19,560 I've used it so many times to try to get the attention of members who are sinning and who 621 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:25,360 are not quite where they ought to be or haven't quite met the conditions of repentance. 622 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,080 And I've often tried to use this to help them. 623 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:37,000 And yet sometimes I think it's used by members of the church or priesthood leaders, maybe, 624 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,440 others as kind of a little bit of a club. 625 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:46,880 But it's in Doctrine and Covenants section 82 verse 7 and it reads, And now verily I 626 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,520 say unto you, I the Lord will not lay any sin to your charge. 627 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,300 This is after they've repented. 628 00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:55,880 And he's forgiven them in verse 1. 629 00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:02,280 He says, as you have forgiven one another, your trespasses, even so, I the Lord forgive 630 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,720 you. 631 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:10,320 So he's forgiven them and then he says, Go your ways and sin no more. 632 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,640 Here it is. 633 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:20,360 But unto the soul who sineth shall the former sins return, saith the Lord your God. 634 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:29,080 Well I used to use that a lot and I think in probably a negative way to kind of help 635 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:34,960 someone understand how important it was to not repeat the same sin over and over again. 636 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,080 And I know that's true. 637 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,680 We're not really truly repented if we keep going back to former sins. 638 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:53,240 But I do not believe, as I think I used to believe, that sins stack up. 639 00:45:53,240 --> 00:46:00,280 If you sin and you repent and then you go back and you commit it, it's twice as bad. 640 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,440 Or you go back and commit it again and now it's three times worse. 641 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,320 And I just don't believe this model. 642 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,760 I don't think that's what this verse is saying. 643 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,920 That the sins stack up and it just gets worse and worse and worse and it can get so big 644 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,880 and so bad that you can never repent of it. 645 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,720 That's I'm sure that's not what the Lord meant by this. 646 00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:26,240 He's saying that sin is a wholesale approach. 647 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:33,000 He's saying, but unto the soul who sineth shall the former sins return, meaning he can't 648 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,680 forgive us of a sin. 649 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,480 We have to repent of all our sins. 650 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:46,840 We can't try to repent of a sin while we're committing other sins of omission or commission. 651 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,000 That's what I believe that verse means. 652 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,520 And I think that's a easier approach, honestly. 653 00:46:52,520 --> 00:47:00,080 Well I think it's a more simple approach from an offering of a loving Heavenly Father to 654 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,080 us for sure. 655 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,080 Absolutely. 656 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:07,560 Yeah, because if I'm struggling with a favorite sin, and we'll just call it sin A, sin A, 657 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,400 sin B, sin C. 658 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:15,960 So if I'm struggling with a sin A, but my sin B and sin C are still there and I get sin 659 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:22,400 A squared away, well sin B and sin C still have the same effect in that they keep me 660 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,080 separated from the spirit of the Holy Ghost. 661 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,080 That's the key. 662 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,400 Yeah, and so then I get sin B squared away and sin A slips back in a little bit, but 663 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,360 then sin B's gone. 664 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,240 Sin A still keeps me separated from the spirit of the Holy Ghost. 665 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:41,400 I know every day we need to be in the posture of repentance, Scott, and that means that 666 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,320 we just, we face the Lord. 667 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:53,240 We don't give up on Him and that in those bad moments of our everyday life when we do, 668 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:59,040 that we quickly turn around, that we speedily repent and we turn around again and again 669 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,560 and again, that we don't take any shortcuts. 670 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,680 Sometimes I'll have to share with you a parable about that, that we don't take any shortcuts 671 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:16,560 in this process and that we strive to face Him longer and longer and longer in our everyday 672 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,560 life. 673 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,320 I think that's kind of how we have to see it. 674 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:31,800 And I know that the closer, the more we face Him and the closer we get to Him, Scott, the 675 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,880 further our sins move away from us. 676 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:42,640 The less frequently we'll commit those same sins. 677 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,600 The less we will feel inclined to commit those sins. 678 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,880 I know that's true. 679 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:58,320 I believe for me in my sins that as I face Him, as I think of Him, as I try to, as He 680 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:05,640 has encouraged us to do, I think commanded us to do, look unto me in every thought. 681 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:12,720 Doubt not, fear not, behold the wounds and the Prince. 682 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:21,040 Anyway, Dr. and Co. in Section 6 again, I know that as we strive to keep that commandment 683 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:29,680 to look unto Him in every thought, that our sins move further and further away from us. 684 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,480 I think really, Dave, that's the essence of repentance. 685 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,360 Look unto me in every thought. 686 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,360 Doubt not, there's faith. 687 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,560 Fear not, there's faith and hope. 688 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,560 Right? 689 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,560 Right. 690 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,560 Yeah. 691 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,200 And it's all based on, as you said, behold the wounds which pierced my side and also 692 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,680 the Prince of the nails. 693 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:53,280 In my hands and feet, be faithful, keep my commandments, and you shall inherit the kingdom 694 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,280 of heaven. 695 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:59,000 We can inherit that portion of that kingdom of heaven right here as we daily repent and 696 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,080 as we constantly enter in a constant attitude and posture of repentance, that just means 697 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,200 we're turning more to Him and we're not focusing. 698 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,520 And we talked several weeks ago, a couple of months maybe even ago, several episodes 699 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,760 for sure about where's our focus. 700 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,200 And that's really all it is. 701 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:23,040 Our focus on being repentant rather than repenting of a sin is really what draws us 702 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,000 closer to Him. 703 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,880 Loving Him, Scott, includes loving His laws and loving His commandments. 704 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,040 Right. 705 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,120 And striving to keep all of His commandments. 706 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:42,200 And I don't think any of us do that on a daily basis, but it's in the striving. 707 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,200 It's hoping. 708 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:51,440 You know, there's the question in the new temple interview worthiness question is, are 709 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,480 you striving to be morally clean? 710 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,480 I love that. 711 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,480 I love it. 712 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,480 It's in the striving. 713 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:04,280 It's not in the throwing of in the towel, giving up what's the use? 714 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,000 That's just who I am. 715 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,000 That's not repentance. 716 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:15,880 Repentance is looking to the Savior, seeking to emulate Him because we adore Him, wanting 717 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,200 to have a relationship with Him. 718 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:26,720 And having that become the essence of our hearts and the essence of our lives. 719 00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:34,400 Oh, man, Scott, life would be so much easier. 720 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,280 We would have so much more joy. 721 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:48,560 We will have so much more peace as we live daily in a posture of repentance, looking to 722 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:56,120 the sun, remembering as we make it, as we made a covenant yesterday for taking it to 723 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,560 heaven. 724 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:06,600 Remembering Him always, remembering Him where, remembering what He did for us, remembering 725 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:12,360 what He suffered for us, remembering His love for us. 726 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,360 That's repentance. 727 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,760 And I can't even talk about it right now without feeling that. 728 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,560 I mean, I want to do better. 729 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:20,560 I want to be better. 730 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:30,960 I want to strive harder to keep commandments in ways that I maybe wouldn't have if we weren't 731 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,440 talking about this today. 732 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,440 Yeah, me too. 733 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,560 Yeah, and we go back just to the tail end of that quote again from Elder Maxwell, in 734 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,480 the process of striving to become more like Him, striving, you know, use that word, in 735 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:48,880 that process of striving to become more like Him through steady improvement, repentance. 736 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:56,800 We must be in the posture of repentance, even if no major transaggression is involved. 737 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:04,200 So important for each one of us to just egressively hold to these principles that are eternal, 738 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:09,320 that are saving, that add salvation and hope to our lives, because, you know, each of us 739 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:15,520 will and do face things in this life that beset us, that set us back, that are troubling, 740 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,880 we struggle with. 741 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:22,640 And some of that involves sin, where we make bad choices, where the choices we make drive 742 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,680 us away or drive the spirit away, rather, from our lives. 743 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:32,320 And I think that as we focus on a relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and 744 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:39,640 in so doing, we are in the process of striving to become more like Him through steady improvement, 745 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,760 we need to remember that at that point, we will be in the posture of repentance, even 746 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,880 if there is no major transgression involved. 747 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:51,520 And in doing that, we have peace, we have His love, and all other things in our life 748 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:57,040 just seem to kind of line up, even when they're not lined up, maybe even when there's trials, 749 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,040 even when there's struggles. 750 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:04,520 We talked to friends recently who, in their crying out and in their trying to become more 751 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:11,000 like Him through repentance, through turning and facing up the stairs, rather than facing 752 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:17,640 down the stairs, that that's where we embrace and feel His embrace more fully as well. 753 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:25,000 Well last week, we left with an invitation, my hope, by the way, that some of you have 754 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:31,520 taken that invitation seriously and that you're experimenting in your life with identifying 755 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:38,600 your fears, and that you are not just accepting those fears, that you become more sensitized 756 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:47,520 by your fears, and that we all pray with all energy of heart when we feel fear, and we've 757 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:55,840 been promised that He will give us His love, not just our love for others, but He will 758 00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:00,600 actually bless us through the gift of the Spirit, with the gift of charity, which is 759 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:06,080 the pure love of Christ, which is how Christ sees others and the love of Christ. 760 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:12,600 And when we see others in the situations that we're in through His eyes, and we have that 761 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:19,360 gift of charity, that perfect love casteth out all fear, I hope you're experimenting 762 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,000 with that, and I hope you'll continue to do so. 763 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:31,600 As we do that, I pray that we'll be able to overcome our fear to repent, and I want to 764 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:40,840 leave another invitation today to all of us, that we start seeing repentance not as changing 765 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:48,000 ourselves, but that we see repentance through the perspective of the Lord and again through 766 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:58,400 His eyes, that He wants to change us, that repentance is being changed, not just making 767 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:06,080 changes in our behaviors, that it's through His merits, that it's through our faith and 768 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,320 learning to rely on Him. 769 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:15,200 And I invite you to consider that perspective and to focus on that. 770 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:27,200 And one more invitation is that we stop repenting of a sin and that we start to repent of sinning, 771 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:37,560 that we as King Lomonai's father prayed that I would give away all my sins to know thee. 772 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:43,040 That's my hope and prayer for myself, for you, Scott, for our families and for all our 773 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,040 listeners. 774 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,040 Thanks, Dave. 775 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,960 Another great episode as we talk. 776 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:53,840 I just want to reiterate, I hope too, that we can start to see repentance as our being 777 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:59,440 changed instead of us making changes, changed through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, changed 778 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:04,720 through His love, through His sacrifice and through His power because it requires His 779 00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:06,720 power to make that change as well. 780 00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:07,720 That's repentance. 781 00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:08,720 That is repentance. 782 00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:10,040 Thanks so much for being with us. 783 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:18,160 We do appreciate your involvement and again ask that you, if you're so inclined to participate 784 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:23,160 in David's invitation, I know I'm going to and maybe next week we can kind of recap on 785 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,160 that as well. 786 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,640 Thanks for being with us, everybody. 787 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,640 Have a great week. 788 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:32,320 Make sure that you're doing the things in your life that will allow the Spirit to be 789 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,400 imminent in your life that you may be able to fill His Spirit and fill the Atonement 790 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,680 of Jesus Christ at work in your life. 791 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,320 And remember that He has redeemed you through His blood. 792 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:57,280 Thanks for being with us.