1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,980 Well hello everybody and welcome to Redeemed Through His Blood. 2 00:00:17,980 --> 00:00:23,200 In this podcast we discuss hope healing and redemption through the Atonement of Jesus Christ. 3 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,720 I'm Scott Durfey, let me introduce my partner in this project, our teacher, David Durfey 4 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,400 Hey good morning everybody, hope you're all having a great week. 5 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,160 Good to have you here Dave and be with you as always. 6 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:38,000 Gang we're really looking forward to the things that we're going to be talking about today. 7 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,040 But before I do I just want to take care of a couple of things real quickly. 8 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,960 First off I want to just say thank you so much for the correspondence. 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,880 We've been getting a lot of great emails and texts and from our friends and people that 10 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,680 we don't know yet but our friends because of the podcast we appreciate all of that. 11 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,960 And just encourage you to keep sending those. 12 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,600 We've had again just a lot of great response. 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Our email address is heredeemsusatgmail.com. 14 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,400 He redeems us at gmail.com. 15 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,200 And then also we'd like to invite you that as you go to the various podcast distribution 16 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,960 points whether that's Apple or Audible or Spotify. 17 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:24,920 When you're there if you don't mind liking the podcast maybe leaving even a review that's 18 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,640 helpful and we appreciate it. 19 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:36,960 So last week we had a great conversation around the crucifixion of our Lord and Savior Jesus 20 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:37,960 Christ. 21 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:42,880 We talked about the blood, the importance of the blood in the atonement of Jesus Christ 22 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,920 and in the crucifixion and through the entire process. 23 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,080 We talked a lot about that. 24 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:53,840 And today as we move into the next step or the next process of the atonement of Jesus 25 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,560 Christ we're going to do a couple of things. 26 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:01,200 We're going to spend some time today talking about the resurrection, why it's important, 27 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,880 the effects of it and how that all kind of plays in. 28 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:11,920 And then we're going to start moving as we begin our next part of the podcast here. 29 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:16,320 We're going to start moving into the effects of the atonement of Jesus Christ. 30 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:23,560 In other words we've spent a lot of time learning now what the events are, what the things 31 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,880 that took place, etc. 32 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,840 But now we're going to start learning the application. 33 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,960 What are the effects and because of the atonement of Jesus Christ how can my life be different? 34 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,280 So let's get started today as we do that. 35 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,560 We're going to get right into talking about the resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus 36 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Christ Dave. 37 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,640 So where do we go from here? 38 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:47,360 Well thank you Scott. 39 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:55,480 So last week we spent a lot of time on Gethsemane and as we've talked about last week and other 40 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:03,760 times as a church we understand Gethsemane because of the restoration of the gospel. 41 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,960 Better than anyone else. 42 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,320 Thank God for the restoration of the fullness of the gospel of Christ. 43 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,560 We know that Jesus bled from every pore. 44 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:19,040 We know that everything after Gethsemane was intensified because of him bleeding from every 45 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,040 pore and the effects of Gethsemane. 46 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,840 We know there was an angel there to strengthen him. 47 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:29,480 And then everything else that happened between then and the cross would have been again worse. 48 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:35,920 I think it was your words on the podcast last week that said exponentially worse because 49 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,880 of what happened in Gethsemane. 50 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Then he goes to the cross and all of Gethsemane reoccurs. 51 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:47,160 I don't think we read the quotes but there are several quotes from the brethren. 52 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Elder Talmadge and Jesus the Christ. 53 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,760 Elder Mcconkey in his mortal Messiah series. 54 00:03:52,760 --> 00:04:02,200 Even our dear President Nelson has taught that Gethsemane reoccurred and was intensified 55 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,360 on the cross. 56 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:09,200 And this time he was all alone from 12 noon until 3 p.m. and there's no angel there to 57 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:18,120 strengthen him and it's dark and Jesus suffers complete spiritual death and darkness without 58 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,040 dying suffering through it. 59 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:28,640 Surely would have killed anyone else but Jesus needed to suffer all of it. 60 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:34,560 A quote that I wanted to share last week which we didn't have time to. 61 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,240 I want to just refer to this morning. 62 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:46,880 It's one of my favorite quotes on the Atonement of Jesus Christ from the book called The Infinite 63 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,600 Atonement by Elder Ted Callister. 64 00:04:51,600 --> 00:05:00,280 And in this quote he describes the effects of being a God that Jesus Christ, even though 65 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:08,560 he was a God, he didn't use his Godhood to take away from the pain, the suffering of 66 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:09,720 the Atonement. 67 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:18,320 In fact Elder Callister wrote, quote, the Savior submitted to the inhumanity of man 68 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:25,200 his body longed for sleep he hungered he felt the pains of sickness he was in all respects 69 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:30,440 subjected to every mortal failing experienced by the human family. 70 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,920 We've tried to talk about that tonight. 71 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:38,640 I think not only family but abuse and torment and persecution and all of that. 72 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:44,680 Not once did he raise the shield of Godhood in order to soften the blows. 73 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:52,200 Not once did he don the bulletproof vest of divinity that he also had godly powers did 74 00:05:52,200 --> 00:06:00,640 not make his suffering any less excruciating any less poignant or any less real to the 75 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,360 contrary. 76 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:09,320 It is for this very reason that his suffering was more not less than his mortal counterparts 77 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,080 could experience. 78 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:19,200 He took upon him infinite suffering but chose to defend with only mortal faculties with 79 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,800 but one exception. 80 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:30,880 His Godhood was summoned to hold off unconsciousness and death the twin relief mechanisms of man 81 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:38,080 that would otherwise overpower a mere mortal when he reached his threshold of pain. 82 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:45,800 For the Savior however there would for the Savior however there would be no such relief. 83 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:55,240 His divinity would be called upon not to immunize him from pain but to enlarge the 84 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,400 receptacle that would hold it. 85 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:05,240 He simply brought a larger cup to hold the bitter drink. 86 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,840 End quote. 87 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:10,200 That's Elder Ted Callister in the infinite atonement page 119. 88 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:17,560 So I just I think about that often Scott I think when I think of the atonement of Jesus 89 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:26,320 Christ I think it's too easy for maybe all of us to think that well Jesus could do it 90 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:33,560 Jesus could handle it because he was a God because he was a son of God because the Father 91 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,320 was his only begotten son. 92 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:45,880 And we think about the powers that he had but he never he only used his his powers Scott 93 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:54,280 and his Godhood to be able to withstand the suffering to endure the suffering. 94 00:07:54,280 --> 00:08:01,920 Never did he use it to lessen it or make it less painful or more easy. 95 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:09,920 So last night at very early in the morning I get a phone call and there's a young man 96 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:15,920 on the other end of the phone struggling and when I say struggling I mean really struggling 97 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:25,160 with some ideologies that just are not anything like our heavenly Father's ideologies at all. 98 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:30,400 And it's interesting how that you know when we talk about all that the Savior went through 99 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,000 all that Jesus went through as he went through the garden and it wasn't just the garden I 100 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,880 mean it was prior to that when we talked all about this the scourging the trial the exhaustion 101 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:45,120 from the loss of blood etc. that was happening even previous to all of that. 102 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:51,160 And we think about man my life is hard sometimes and that was the case and we all feel this 103 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,960 you know that was the case with this young man last night when he's calling me and telling 104 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:00,280 me man my life is just hard and you just don't understand and it's true. 105 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:07,200 There's so much of life that we don't understand for each other but and this is where the solace 106 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:13,360 and the comfort I think comes Dave when we talk about these types of things when we know 107 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:19,920 that he suffered all things to the depth to which we can't even comprehend. 108 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:25,720 In other words our suffering as brutal as it may be we still don't begin to comprehend 109 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,920 what he went through. 110 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:33,840 Why did he go through that he went through that so that I and you and all of us can have 111 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,480 a better experience as he suckers us. 112 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:43,080 In other words the reason he went through that is so that he can take what we're going 113 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:48,440 through and we can really have somebody to turn that to as we go through our lives. 114 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,480 And I think that as we do that and grain gain a deeper appreciation and a deeper love as 115 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,800 we come to know him there and you said this last week you know when Jesus says come to 116 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:04,080 me when he says come unto me he's inviting us to go to the garden to the cross to the 117 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,080 resurrection to all of those things that's where he's inviting us to come. 118 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:14,360 So as we go through this I hope that we have eyes to see and ears to hear and hearts to 119 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:20,560 feel wherein our Heavenly Father is inviting us to go or where Jesus is inviting us to 120 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:24,000 go to be with him as he suckers us there. 121 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,240 Yeah thank you Scott. 122 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,400 The brother and have taught us over and over again. 123 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:39,600 I read it again this morning that Jesus carried out this redemption and the atonement in order 124 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,640 to do the will of his father. 125 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,360 We know that when he prayed if there be any other way. 126 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:54,040 Nevertheless he told his father in prayer not my will but thine be done. 127 00:10:54,040 --> 00:11:01,000 So we know that there were two motivating forces in his life. 128 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:10,440 One was his love for the father first and foremost to do the will of his father. 129 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:16,240 And this was all foredained he knew this was the center of the plan of redemption was 130 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:25,040 his atoning act or sacrifice to pay for our sins to suffer for all of the effects of the 131 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,200 fall and overcome the effects of the fall. 132 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:40,500 And second he did it because he loved us because he loves all of God's children regardless 133 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:48,000 of religion regardless of church regardless of choices or decisions or circumstances. 134 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:53,040 And he did it because of love I we've read this once before but again this is one of 135 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:58,200 my favorite scriptures in all the standard works second Nephi twenty six twenty four 136 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:05,680 speaking of Christ it's it Nephi wrote he doeth not anything save it be for the benefit 137 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:13,360 of the world for he loveth the world even that he layeth down his own life that he may 138 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:20,680 draw all men unto him wherefore he commanded none that they should not partake of his salvation 139 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:26,200 second Nephi twenty six twenty four. 140 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:34,200 So Jesus after suffering get some money and on again on the cross three hours in get some 141 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:40,040 money three hours on the cross and it's like time stopped in that suffering to be able 142 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:47,160 to take upon him all of the pains all of the sicknesses all of the sins all of the frail 143 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:59,000 tease all of the inequities of mankind he died he at three p.m. on Friday of that atoning 144 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:08,720 week he said it is finished and it I believe is all the pain all of the suffering for all 145 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:15,920 the pain all this suffering of mankind and then he it's recorded that he yielded up the 146 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:25,600 ghost and he died it was necessary that he die and they had to hurry and bury him before 147 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:31,080 the Sabbath began at sundown on Friday their their Sabbath was from sundown on Friday to 148 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:40,080 sundown on Saturday the seventh day being the day of rest for the Jews and so they hurried 149 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:50,480 and buried him in the borrowed tomb of Joseph of Armitia and Jesus was protected there by 150 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:56,480 a stone that was rolled in place the Romans and the Jews wanted to make sure that nobody 151 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:03,880 stole his body and claim that he was living again so they put this huge stone and guards 152 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:15,040 to guard the tomb and he lay in that tomb for a day and a half really some not three 153 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:21,280 full days he's dead on Friday he's dead all day on Saturday in the spirit world we know 154 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:28,360 what he did there was organizing the spirits in the spirit world and ministers to go preach 155 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:35,160 to the gospel to the spirits in prison and you can read about that doctrine come to section 156 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:41,280 138 the vision of redemption of the dead by given to Joseph the prophet and present the 157 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:47,680 church Joseph F Smith and then early Sunday morning and I think it must have been very 158 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:57,880 early near sunrise that Jesus was resurrected so I he was probably only in that that tomb 159 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:06,920 for some 40 hours and Mary of course in the garden other women come to anoint and and 160 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:13,360 Mary goes to the garden early and and stays behind while the other women leave and there 161 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:22,120 in the garden weeping seeing the tomb is empty she weeps and the master comes and she believes 162 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:29,320 it's the gardener and she asked where they laid him or where they taken him and Jesus 163 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:39,120 just says Mary and when he says Mary not just the name but how he says it she recognizes 164 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:48,880 that it is the Christ and it's Jesus speaking and she looks up through her tears and it's 165 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:59,120 recorded in the scriptures in John that she it says that she went to touch him I want 166 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:06,960 to read this in John chapter 20 I always love reading John chapter 20 on Easter morning 167 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:15,480 it's the ultimate I think chapter on the resurrection and in John chapter 20 Jesus sayeth unto her 168 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:21,760 woman why weep us thou whom seek us thou she supposing him to be the gardener sayeth unto 169 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:27,360 him sir if thou have borne him hence tell me where thou has laid him and I will take 170 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:37,400 him away Jesus sayeth unto her Mary she turned herself and sayeth unto him Rabboni which is 171 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:46,120 to say master Jesus is verse 17 of John 20 Jesus sayeth unto her this is what's recorded 172 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:54,080 in the King James version touch me not for I am not yet ascended to my father I've heard 173 00:16:54,080 --> 00:17:01,120 a lot of strange ideas about what that means and why she couldn't touch him I've in gospel 174 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:07,640 doctrine classes and talks that I've heard over the years in the church I've heard a 175 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:13,320 lot of strange ideas why she couldn't touch him or that it was maybe it would contaminate 176 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,960 him or something and she couldn't he couldn't go to the father after some human had touched 177 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:24,320 him or I've heard so many strange ideas about that yeah but in the Joseph Smith translation 178 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:40,320 Scott it reads Jesus sayeth unto her Mary hold me not I love that that she embraced him that 179 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:47,760 she's holding him and they're embracing and he says Mary I gotta go I got I haven't even 180 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:57,400 been to my father yet and he he then ascends to his father and she runs to tell the other 181 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:05,680 the other apostles we have lots of witnesses eyewitnesses those who touched him those who 182 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:13,080 felt him he invited he appeared to the to eat the 10 Thomas isn't there and Judas has committed 183 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:22,000 suicide so he appears to 10 later that evening and and then a week later he appears to the 184 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:28,320 11 Thomas is now present and we have lots of witnesses and he said come and come and 185 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:33,040 feel and and do you have anything to eat and they witnessed him eating they knew that this 186 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:43,640 was a physical resurrection that he was not a spirit he said a spirit hath not flesh and 187 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:52,760 bones as ye see me have that was his testimony to the apostles they saw they felt it he he 188 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:58,920 spent time with them he appeared to two on the road to Emmaus as a resurrected being he 189 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:07,920 appeared to 500 brother and at once Paul records he appears to Paul and we have a special account 190 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:17,640 of his appearance the 2500 souls in the Americas somewhere in the Americas a place called bountiful 191 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:27,400 near the temple and they and he invites them come and and feel and put thrust your hand 192 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:33,920 into my side and fill the prince of the nails in my hands in my feet third Nephi chapter 11 193 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:47,400 verse 15 and they one by one they go and they feel we have so many thousands of eyewitnesses 194 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:55,480 who is not only saw him but they felt him Scott physical resurrection so the thing that impresses 195 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:00,080 me Dave about this physical resurrection and and I just want to talk real quick about the 196 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:06,360 the one by one as he was among the what we call the Nephites there in you know the Americas 197 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:12,900 when he came here to wherever that was but as they came one by one to the resurrected 198 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:20,760 Lord that's what we do we go one by one to the resurrected to he who paid all for all 199 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:26,720 that we that all that we deal with now and that brings me to another point in terms of 200 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:32,160 this resurrection for example when we're resurrected when Christ was resurrected and when you know 201 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:37,480 surely and we'll talk about this but surely what as we all will be also resurrected because 202 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:43,440 of that one of the unconditional components to the atonement is unconditional everybody 203 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,560 will be resurrected and return to their father well as we are resurrected what that means 204 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:55,640 is that everything will be made perfect and so when in this life Dave we have so much 205 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:03,320 that it takes place inside of us because our bodies are imperfect we have chemical imbalances 206 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:09,280 we may have some sort of organic depression or anxiety or you know those types of things 207 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,480 that are because our bodies are not perfect and when I say our bodies there's so much 208 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:18,800 of our mental state that's attached to the physical body the physicality of the body 209 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:27,240 can have a huge and sometimes maybe even be the predominant driving force in some of our 210 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:32,880 things that are not right whether that's again depression whether that's some sort of other 211 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:42,120 mental illness that's maybe even more complex it can be the things like autism it can be 212 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:48,240 all of these things that anything that's not perfect in our brain or in our body and in 213 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,640 our body you know I can be talking about physical diseases physical handicaps things that we 214 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:59,880 and our friends have been born with that are no choice of our own that are just not right 215 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:06,800 well those things too because of discouragement because of a lack of separation a lack of not 216 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:13,800 feeling included in society those kinds of things can also feel like that there's a separation 217 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,160 between us and our heavenly Father or at least the spirit of our heavenly Father as we focus 218 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:23,640 and put the wrong type of or too much focus on those types of things well the resurrection 219 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:31,240 of Jesus Christ heals all that for us as well the suffering for all the pains and sicknesses 220 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:39,400 and we've and we've said frailties and tendencies and inequities and all of the imbalances of 221 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:46,040 life and the effects of those were covered in Gethsemane and on the cross and you're 222 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:54,880 right the resurrection now restores all the souls of mankind to this perfect balance of 223 00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:05,320 spirit of mind of body and there all of the weaknesses that were given to us by the Lord 224 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:12,400 right right yeah because of the fall yeah ether 1227 I give him to men weakness because 225 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:24,600 of the fall all of those are overcome in the resurrection and we are restored to a perfect 226 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:32,240 body mind united with spirit so you think about that scott and the effect that that 227 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:43,120 will have on us and how all of the if we could all be born with the perfect body no chemical 228 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:54,320 imbalances no inappropriate tendencies frailties all of those things what a difference it would 229 00:23:54,320 --> 00:24:01,960 make in our choices and decisions and in our ability really to worship the father and the 230 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:09,320 son and to fill the Holy Ghost and to fill the love of God that will be a great day it's 231 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:15,920 important that we understand that there is a that there's an order to the resurrection and all 232 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:21,400 of us will be resurrected this is testified of in the in the Bible even though none all 233 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:27,920 Christians believe in a universal resurrection as we do we believe it's taught clearly by Paul in 234 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:34,560 1st Corinthians 15 when he says as an atom all die even so in Christ shall all be made alive 235 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:41,560 we believe that's alluding to spiritual and physical well Dave even when he talks about 236 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:47,640 and you know and this is a doctrine that's unique to us as well as the doctrine of the 237 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:54,400 baptism for the dead but even in you know in the same chapter in 1st Corinthians 15 and 29 he 238 00:24:54,400 --> 00:25:00,520 says else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead if the dead rise not at all and so 239 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:06,080 it's not that that that that is not necessarily it is but about baptism for the dead but it's also 240 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,720 and more importantly it's about the resurrection if the day in other words Paul saying guys if 241 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,280 if you don't believe in the resurrection then why are you already doing what you're doing right 242 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:20,600 he uses baptism for the dead which apparently the early Christians conducted they were doing 243 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:28,920 it there as evidence of a universal resurrection correct and it's clearly taught in the Book of 244 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:36,360 Mormon over and over again by by the prophets and writers of the Book of Mormon so we believe in 245 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:43,480 this universal resurrection but it not everyone will be resurrected at once there has already 246 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:49,600 been a resurrection we're still in the first resurrection Jesus Christ was the first to be 247 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:56,320 resurrected but it's such an interesting scripture and so many don't know quite what to do I've read 248 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:05,480 so many commentaries on this on Matthew chapter 27 verse 52 and 53 and the graves were open this 249 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:12,320 is talking about the resurrection of Matthew in the Bible 27 52 and 53 and the graves were 250 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:18,560 opened and many bodies of the saints which slept arose and came out of the graves after his resurrection 251 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:26,600 and went into the holy city and appeared unto many well so there have been lots of individuals 252 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:33,840 resurrected already that we don't know about but what we do know as taught by Latter-day prophets 253 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:40,800 is that there is an order to the resurrection and all those who lived a celestial life have been 254 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:48,640 resurrected already who lived before Christ all of those who lived a celestial life before Christ 255 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:56,320 were resurrected shortly after the resurrection of Jesus Christ we know for example in Dr. 256 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:03,280 and Covenants again section 132 that Adam is resurrected in Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and 257 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:10,400 and we assume all of the prophets and their families who lived a celestial life were resurrected at 258 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:17,280 the time shortly after the time that Jesus was resurrected and all those who live a celestial 259 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:26,280 life will be resurrected first either between now and the second coming of Jesus Christ or at the 260 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:33,200 second coming of Jesus Christ those who live a celestial life are resurrected before anyone who 261 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:40,680 lives a terrestrial life is resurrected you can read the qualifications for who qualifies for a 262 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:47,560 celestial glory and those who qualify for a terrestrial or t-less you'll in Dr. and Covenants 263 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:55,400 section 76 then at the second coming after all of those who have lived a celestial life are 264 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:02,400 resurrected those who have lived a terrestrial life honorable men and women and those who have 265 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:13,160 lived a good life who are honest will be resurrected during the second coming and after all of those 266 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:19,840 who are lived a terrestrial life are resurrected then the resurrection for the telestial those 267 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:26,160 who live the telestial law which is defined as those who have committed some pretty serious sins 268 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:37,760 those who are habitual liars deceivers adulterers robbers murders they'll be resurrected after 269 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:43,720 the second coming and after all of those who have lived a telestial life are resurrected then 270 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:55,920 the final or we could say almost fourth resurrection are those who have denied the Christ who 271 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:03,720 have committed the sin the unpardonable sin and those who are going to go to outer darkness and 272 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:12,920 not enjoy any glory those who have sinned against the light yeah you know I I think that as we talk 273 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,200 about that you know I think that there's been points in my life because I've known this I know 274 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,040 about the different resurrections the different you know the four different resurrections the 275 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,520 timing of those and I think there's probably a lot of our listeners that as they're as we're 276 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:33,800 listening to this we think oh my goodness the celestial I hear that word celestial and I think 277 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,920 I'm not alone when I think I am far from celestial because when we think of celestial we think of 278 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:44,680 perfection when I think of celestial and you know I appreciate it if you'll indulge me a 279 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:51,200 personal here but when I think of celestial I think of my dad referring to his mom your mom as 280 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:59,080 my celestial mother and I think there's nothing about me the celestial really but then I go back 281 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:05,440 to episodes two through nine that we've been talking about here on these podcasts what I want is 282 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,480 all to realize what I want our listeners to realize what I want my kids my family and us to 283 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:16,840 remember and realize is that when we talk about celestial the key to that is putting on the 284 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,680 atonement the key to putting on the atonement of Jesus Christ is to court the Spirit we've talked 285 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:27,000 about how the administration of the atonement happens at the atonement of Jesus Christ how 286 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,880 that happens through the administration of the Spirit in our lives if I'm working to have the 287 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:40,440 Spirit in my life if I'm repenting daily if I'm sitting at the sacrament as I'm sitting in 288 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,880 the sacrament meeting last Sunday and I'm contemplating and considering the things in my life 289 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:52,360 that separate me from him that keep the Spirit from being in full force in my life and I make 290 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:58,880 those adjustments and I turn from them and as I turn to the light even Jesus Christ himself 291 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:05,960 and as I turn there that's repentance if I'm doing that I'm living a celestial life striving 292 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:13,760 exactly as long as we are striving as long as we are repenting as long as we are faithfully 293 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:24,360 seeking to follow Jesus Christ as imperfect as we are as sinful as we may be we are celestial 294 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:31,240 material because we have put on Christ because through Christ and receiving the gift of the 295 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:40,800 Holy Ghost as he administers the atonement of Jesus Christ in our life that's what it takes to 296 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:48,400 be worthy enough to qualify for that first first resurrection. Well we we worry about so much I 297 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,080 think Dave you know the scripture that we're saved by grace after all we can do and I just think 298 00:31:53,080 --> 00:32:00,040 sometimes we think well there's just not enough I can do in me to do that well if we if we go to 299 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,600 Alma 34 and I'm not going to do that here but if we were to go to Alma 34 and take that entire 300 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:11,400 chapter into consideration that is our answer of all we can do it's about daily repentance yeah 301 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:17,320 it's all about just repenting yeah all we can do is put on the atonement of Jesus Christ and we are 302 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:26,480 saved by grace so again if you want to look at the qualifications in order to know if we were to 303 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:32,600 die tomorrow where we might come forth in the morning of the resurrection in fact there are 304 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:39,880 there are really two resurrections Scott yeah there there is a first resurrection a morning and 305 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:47,080 an evening the morning is all of those who have lived a celestial life and the evening is all of 306 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:53,960 those who have lived a terrestrial life that's the first resurrection and that takes place from 307 00:32:53,960 --> 00:33:02,760 now until the second coming and through the second coming that is the first resurrection and I think 308 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,200 so many patriarchal blessings I know several patriarchal blessings most patriarchal blessings 309 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:14,920 that I gave promised individuals that they would come forth in the morning of the first resurrection 310 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:24,040 which means they will be resurrected with celestial beings that's the celestial order of the resurrection 311 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:30,040 and those who come forth in the evening of the first resurrection will be terrestrial beings and 312 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:36,800 then the second resurrection is the resurrection for those who are wicked which include those who 313 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:44,560 go to the celestial kingdom of glory and those who go to outer darkness I think it's inspiring to me 314 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:54,280 that our God our Heavenly Father is not only a God of love it's how we all like to think of him but 315 00:33:54,280 --> 00:34:01,280 he is also a God of laws and that even this resurrection it's not there's nothing about it 316 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:07,520 there will be chaotic there's nothing about it that will be messy there's nothing about it that will 317 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:20,080 be all at once it happens in a very organized order and we know also that it is a priesthood 318 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:27,320 ordinance taught by President Kimball quoting Brigham Young that it will be done in an orderly way 319 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:36,920 by priesthood through that order through the patriarchal order of the priesthood and so we 320 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:45,000 have we all have hope in the in the and faith in the resurrection of mankind and such an important 321 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:51,840 part of the atonement so maybe just in winding up the events of the atonement of Jesus Christ 322 00:34:51,840 --> 00:35:01,400 Scott there had to be a sinless life he had experienced all the pains I think and sicknesses of 323 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:07,760 mortality which he did without ever sinning all of the temptations of mortality without every 324 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:15,520 yielding or giving heed he had to suffer Gethsemane where he bled every pore he had to suffer on 325 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:22,400 the cross Gethsemane intensified that suffer everything in between Gethsemane in the cross 326 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:33,600 and then then forth his death and resurrection those four things sinless life Gethsemane the 327 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:41,880 cross and resurrection are what we call the atonement of Jesus Christ and maybe just one 328 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:50,360 more thing on the resurrection it's inspiring to me Scott that we have living prophets since the 329 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:58,040 Prophet Joseph Smith who have been living eyewitnesses of the resurrection we know that there 330 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:09,120 are two major pillars in order to be be an apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ and one of those is to 331 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:20,080 be a witness a sure witness of the resurrection of Jesus Christ an experience to sacred for 332 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,920 apostles to speak I don't know how many have seen him or if they've all seen him or if they haven't 333 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:34,200 I don't know that that's that's that's not necessarily critical some have maybe some haven't 334 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:42,080 but they are sure witnesses they have a more sure witness of the physical resurrection of 335 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:50,520 Jesus Christ some of us have heard those over the years I never forget hearing President Kimball 336 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:57,480 bear his testimony of that in a priesthood session of general conference many years ago and 337 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:05,160 there there have been many others and second they need to be a sure witness of Jesus Christ in 338 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:16,920 his redemptive redeeming power those are according to a talk given by Elder Dennis Newenchwander 339 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:25,040 many years ago are the two pillars that qualify one for to be an apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ 340 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:30,840 and I'm thankful to know that we have living apostles and prophets Elder Newenchwander was 341 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:39,080 of course referring to the quotes by Joseph Smith that taught that apostles were sure witnesses 342 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:48,120 love the atonement of Jesus Christ including including his resurrection so maybe we can 343 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:55,400 move on and begin to speak about some of the effects or or maybe Scott even before we do that why 344 00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:01,560 did Jesus do it yeah why did he carry out the atonement Jesus Christ we talked about doing the 345 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:10,440 will of the father and his love but what gave him power to do this and President Nelson taught 346 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:25,200 that the power that he drew from was joy that joy is a principle of power and that he had this joy 347 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:35,600 that gave him power that he did it for the joy and he quotes Hebrews 12 verse 2 and just winding 348 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:42,880 up the atonement Jesus Christ I've been so grateful for President Nelson's teaching us this in Hebrews 349 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:48,480 12 verse 2 Scott you want to read that yeah I've got it right here it says looking unto Jesus the 350 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:55,800 author and finisher of our faith who for the joy and there it is right there Dave who for the joy 351 00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:02,200 that was set before him endured the cross despising the shame and is set down at the right hand of 352 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:11,840 the throne of God so he's saying that it was for the joy that he was able to endure the cross 353 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:22,320 that the joy Christ had in his mind and heart in doing the will of the father and in saving the 354 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:30,880 father's children in in saving the world for the benefit of the world this joy was what gave 355 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:41,880 Christ the power and the purpose necessary in order to endure all of this I think a mother may 356 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:49,960 have pictures to go with these words a mother goes through pain like you and I should never even 357 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:57,800 pretend never comes closer to dying never than in giving birth and we can never pretend as men to 358 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:03,560 comprehend what that is and we might not even be able to Dave comprehend the joy that a mother has 359 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:09,960 I mean we can we can comprehend the joy dad has I'm not sure that it's exactly equal I think that 360 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:18,040 to the joy a mother has because of the pain that she felt is in is incomparable and I think it's 361 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:24,560 just it's a weak comparison sure yeah but it's a comparison nonetheless to what Jesus might have felt 362 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:33,680 that joy certainly doesn't lessen the pain but it gives them the endurance to be able to withstand 363 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:43,440 it to go through it to be able to have the have the strength necessary to finish it yeah and I think 364 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:51,280 that's an interesting insight president Nelson has given us the past few years is this the importance 365 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:59,120 of this scripture in in Hebrews so with that maybe we should begin to speak about the effects of 366 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:04,160 the atonement if we have time yeah we do we've got several minutes left here that we will move 367 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:10,480 into the effects of the atonement as we do I think that it's important that we emphasize and start 368 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,040 to begin to really feel gratitude in our hearts for the things that we've talked about so far 369 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:24,480 everything that we've talked about so far should really draw us to a state of gratitude for a 370 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:35,360 savior a loving brother a loving father who was perfect and went through the most unbearable 371 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:45,680 unfathomable suffering and pain so that he could have joy gosh you know that kind of that kind of 372 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:53,280 feeling just builds within me and I think it does and should within all of us a gratitude that is 373 00:41:53,280 --> 00:42:00,880 maybe unexpressible by human voice because and I think it's that gratitude that summons and invites 374 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:06,400 the spirit that we've talked about and as it summons and invites the spirit we put that spirit 375 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:14,080 on we begin to put on the atonement of Jesus Christ we feel its effects and as we are aware of doing 376 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:20,320 that now we can intentionally start to place the effects of the atonement of Jesus Christ into 377 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:26,000 various points of our lives in various components and compartments and areas in our lives we can 378 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:33,760 direct and intend for those blessings to bless us and to heal us in those areas so as we move 379 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:41,520 into that day where should we start when we talk about the effects well thank you so much for your 380 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:47,120 insight on the feeling the gratitude for that because I believe gratitude for the atonement of 381 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:58,320 Jesus Christ is what gives us if if if joy gave Jesus the power to endure the cross what gives us 382 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:08,560 power to live the gospel is gratitude for his suffering on the cross yeah I gratitude is is 383 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:17,440 not only a power but it is also a power of salvation and redemption and I heard someone years ago 384 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:23,520 Scott I tell the story without using any names but I was serving at the missionary training 385 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:31,360 center as a branch president we had a rash of disobedience and lots of unfortunately well 386 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:38,880 lots is all relative there were some missionaries who who were having to be sent home and it was 387 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,560 it was kind of a hard time and I remember us talking about that as a branch president's 388 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:52,480 in a meeting and and the MTC president is having some concerns about that and wanting to to know 389 00:43:52,480 --> 00:44:01,840 what's the difference and he came to this impression that the difference between those who 390 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:11,360 stayed and were really faithful great missionaries and those who went home was obedience amen right 391 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:18,400 amen that's exactly right but what allowed missionaries what gave them the power to be obedient 392 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,200 what was the difference between those who were obedient and not obedient and he came to the 393 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:32,000 conclusion that it was desire desire the desire to be obedient the desire to follow the keep the 394 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:39,200 commandments and even the rules of the of the missions and then he began to pray and to think 395 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:48,880 how can I change one's desire how does one get desire and that became his prayer for months 396 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:58,240 and one night in fact fire remember it was on Christmas Eve and in the middle of the night 397 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:09,360 he was awakened in from his sleep and he heard like a voice say in his mind gratitude is the 398 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:16,240 beginning of desire gratitude is the beginning of desire and he got out and he wrote this down 399 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:24,160 and is he sat on the edge of his bed he thought oh gratitude so how do I give them gratitude 400 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:30,720 and as he's sitting there asking now a new question instead of asking how do I give them 401 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:39,600 desire now he finds out it's gratitude how do I give them gratitude he was filled with a vision 402 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:51,760 of the redemption and the atonement the suffering of Jesus Christ and I remember that after that 403 00:45:51,760 --> 00:46:00,000 we all begin to change our teaching and to begin to focus more on the atonement of Jesus Christ 404 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:08,800 and in giving our missionaries gratitude trying to fill their minds and hearts with an understanding 405 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:16,480 and a gratitude for the atonement of Jesus Christ and and I witnessed there at the missionary training 406 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,600 center and I have witnessed this throughout my life Scott my personal life and my life is apparent 407 00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:31,600 that if if children individuals those we love will feel gratitude if they can come to an 408 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:39,920 understanding of and feel gratitude for the atonement of Jesus Christ they will have the desire 409 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:50,640 to be obedient which is the bottom line to be an obedient follower and here's just a few quotes 410 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:57,200 to back that up this is from preach my gospel page two one of my favorite quotes from preach my gospel 411 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:06,000 as your understanding of the atonement of Jesus Christ grows your desire to share 412 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:14,800 and we might in place of the word share put live live so let me read it with with that change sure 413 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:21,680 as your understanding of the atonement Jesus Christ grows your desire to live the gospel will 414 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:29,680 increase listen to this quote by elder Richard G Scott years ago in conference in 2006 pondering 415 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:40,160 pondering the grandeur of the atonement provokes the most profound feeling of awe immense gratitude 416 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:49,680 and deep humility those impressions can provide you with powerful motivation to keep his commandments 417 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:55,200 and consistently repent of errors for greater peace and happiness and what I have found Scott 418 00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:01,520 is that if individuals myself included when we feel like I just don't have the desire 419 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:06,800 I just don't have the desire to keep the commitments I've just not feeling the desire to go to church 420 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:15,760 yeah I'm just not feeling desire I'm not into it yeah my experience is my gratitude is low 421 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:22,640 my gratitude or my understanding and appreciation for the atonement of Jesus Christ is waning 422 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:33,040 and if I can make that shift and begin to focus on the atonement of Jesus Christ increase my 423 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:43,280 understanding my gratitude begins to grow and as my gratitude grows my desires change and are increased 424 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:51,040 how do we get gratitude where does that gratitude come from right in the very beginning of our 425 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:57,440 endeavor here I think two three four and probably in every single episode that we've talked about 426 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:04,480 we have talked about how important it is to get to know him this is life eternal to know the 427 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,960 the only true god in Jesus Christ who now has sent that's that's life eternal and if that's life 428 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:17,440 eternal and we come to know him our gratitude will follow it won't be effort on our part to have 429 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:24,160 gratitude we will not at some point be able to contain the gratitude within our hearts as they 430 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:31,040 burst with love because of what he did now how do we get that we got to go there when he said come 431 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:38,880 to me he's inviting us to come to the garden with him to see the press to experience what 432 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:45,840 Jesus the Christ went through for us as he partake took of the bitter cup he invites us to go to the 433 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:54,400 cross to understand the five nails that were driven in his hands and in his feet to understand the 434 00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:00,880 loss of blood and that it was only because of him through his own will that he gave up the ghost 435 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:06,720 to understand that he went through a spiritual death on the cross that none of us will ever be 436 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:13,920 able to comprehend as his own father had to withdraw and and move away and we talked about 437 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:19,280 how the rocks broke you know we talked about how the earthquakes shook and the rocks broke 438 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:26,160 but the hearts of men still struggled to break because we choose sometimes not to understand 439 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:34,000 so how do i build gratitude how do i build gratitude for what happened for him for all of this 440 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,040 is and you said it a couple of weeks ago dave you said the way we do this is we study it we 441 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:45,280 learn it we spend that time with him remember those that have gone before us that we knew my 442 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:51,600 grandpa's your whoever that have gone on before we know them because we spent time with them 443 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:58,400 i love you bringing up the how here how can we feel gratitude it's one thing to know that 444 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:04,080 gratitude is the beginning of desire but maybe the more important understanding and discussion 445 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:10,400 is how can we get that gratitude and you've made some great points is getting to know him to study 446 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:20,080 him learn of me he's invited us over and over again but but scott there's only really one way 447 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:28,560 to really come to this level of gratitude for the atonement of jesus christ that leads to desire 448 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:42,640 which then leads to obedience and that is through deep repentance we can't fully know him we cannot 449 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:51,920 fully appreciate or have sufficient gratitude for his atoning sacrifice unless we apply it in our 450 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:59,360 life and access its power and unless we understand our role the role that each of us have played 451 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:06,880 that caused his suffering when we begin to understand that we caused it and what he was 452 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:14,640 willing to suffer for us because of his love for us and as gratitude then begins to fill our hearts 453 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:25,040 we will repent and as we repent and we receive maybe this sweetest greatest gift of all forgiveness 454 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:35,280 and redemption we will be filled with gratitude and we will not be able to contain within our 455 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:42,080 mortal beings the love and joy that comes and we will be caught up and we will be brought to him 456 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:49,760 in that morning of the first resurrection free from the pains of our mortal bodies free from the 457 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:59,360 confusion of our mixed up chemical minds free from the the distractions of the world that has been 458 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:07,120 put before us by the enemy and all other things and for that i'm definitely grateful and and as i sat 459 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:14,560 again at the sacrament table this week this past sunday and contemplated these things that we're 460 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:19,920 talking about today and that we talk about each week in this podcast is i contemplated those 461 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:27,760 things my heart was drawn more fully and and with a deeper gratitude to the point of tears 462 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:35,280 that i am just so grateful that he who was perfect who didn't need to do what he did 463 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:42,560 in order for his own life to be great he did it anyway he did it for me he did it for you he did 464 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:48,400 it for every single one of our brothers and sisters so that healing is within our grasp 465 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:57,280 that we can have his spirit in our life and thereby joy and happiness thank you scott i'm not a special 466 00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:10,400 witness but i'm a witness and i know that the tomb is empty i know that i know that jesus lives 467 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:20,320 it's an amazing thought if you really think about this that a man died and he came forth 468 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:29,040 from the grave the stone was rolled away he took time i don't know if it was him or the angels 469 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:35,040 took time to fold the burial clothing but i think that's such a sweet thing that's recorded in 470 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:45,200 john chapter 20 that it's folded where the savior had laid this burial clothing that they buried him 471 00:54:45,200 --> 00:55:00,800 in and that he walked out that he lives he is a living physical flesh and bone immortal being 472 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:11,120 a god that we because of his resurrection will come forth out of the grave that some already have 473 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:20,880 many it says many went forth into the city that there has been a resurrection the resurrection 474 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:28,560 continues we know of some individuals who have been resurrected since that first resurrection began 475 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:35,200 when jesus and many in jewsland were resurrected we know that peter has been resurrected we know 476 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:40,400 that james has been resurrected they appeared at joseph smith and laid their physical hands on his 477 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:46,960 head we know that maronai has been resurrected there the resurrection is ongoing and i know it 478 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:56,800 will continue until every person who no matter of how they choose to live their life every person 479 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:04,960 born in this world will be resurrection and the resurrection and the work of christ will not be 480 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:15,440 finished and until that happens i i know that's true jesus lives and we will live again i know i 481 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:24,480 will see my mother my celestial mother and my celestial father i know that i will see children 482 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:31,520 will talk about this sometimes god the effects of the atonement of jesus christ and how my sweet 483 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:38,080 heart and i look forward to raising children in the millennium i know that all those who have died 484 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:46,080 will come forth in the resurrection and that we will become immortal beings and go to the place 485 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:55,680 that we have chosen to go based upon our level of gratitude our level of desire and our level 486 00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:02,480 of obedience will determine where we spend the rest of our our eternity as immortals 487 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:10,000 and in a war torn and filthy world there's no greater news no greater hope than what you have 488 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:16,240 just expressed thank you so much for doing that ladies and gentlemen it's just been an absolute 489 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:22,080 joy for both of us to be here and talk about things that meet there's just nothing more 490 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:28,240 that there's just nothing out there that means more to brother david durfee and myself than the 491 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:34,160 atonement of jesus christ the effects that it has on our lives and in the lives of those we love 492 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:39,600 our invitation to you and i hope you take this seriously our invitation to you this week is as 493 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:45,680 you come as you go through this week and as you prepare for those of you who do to partake of the 494 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:51,200 sacrament the lord supper on sunday and for those of you who don't this exercise is still important 495 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:57,280 and can still be very impactful but as you do prepare for that be thinking about how has the 496 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:05,440 atonement of jesus christ and how will the resurrection and of jesus christ how will that and does that 497 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:12,000 affect me and how can that bring joy and gratitude into my life another great podcast so thank you 498 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:19,040 so much for all of you for being with us as always we want to ensure that once again you 499 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:27,280 hear our invitation to come unto him to go to the garden to go to the cross to go to the tomb 500 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:36,800 and all other ways come to know him so that our gratitude can be adequate for him our email is 501 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:43,840 he redeems us at gmail.com please share with us any experiences any thoughts any questions and 502 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:49,600 certainly any suggestions that you may have we want to say thanks to all of you for joining us 503 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:56,000 encourage you to share this with your friends once again like us on the various outlets and 504 00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,760 maybe even leave a review for that we would be indeed grateful until we meet again god bless you 505 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:17,680 and we will see you all next week until then have a great week and remember that he loves you