WEBVTT 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.759 So hey Deb, this week's a little bit different 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:04.639 for us, you know We're right smack in the middle 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:07.059 of holy week and what we're about to share today 00:00:07.059 --> 00:00:10.619 is actually where this whole thing started Friends 00:00:10.619 --> 00:00:12.599 the episode that you're about to hear was our 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:15.359 very first episode of redeemed through his blood 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:18.160 And I've been thinking a lot about that this 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:20.260 week because you know when we first recorded 00:00:20.260 --> 00:00:25.519 that We made a very intentional decision to begin 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:28.660 right in the most important week in human history 00:00:28.660 --> 00:00:31.179 And here we are again, you know, and I and I 00:00:31.179 --> 00:00:33.799 think for me it changed me You know back then 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:36.460 when we first started this we originally said 00:00:36.460 --> 00:00:39.740 that this podcast was about hope healing and 00:00:39.740 --> 00:00:43.799 redemption all of that literally hope healing 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:46.840 and redemption literally all of that comes because 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:50.200 of this week because of the events of this week 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:52.960 you know this week's were really where everything 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:56.299 just changed not historically I mean, it changed 00:00:56.299 --> 00:00:58.859 historically, too. But more important than that, 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:01.520 personally, because what happened this week isn't 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:04.719 just something we study. This is something that, 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:08.180 you know, we're invited to actually live inside 00:01:08.180 --> 00:01:11.959 of the miracles, the blessings, the events, the 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.299 hope that Holy Week brings us. We are invited 00:01:15.299 --> 00:01:17.560 to live inside of that. And when we talked in 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:20.560 our first episode, we talked about how the atonement 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:22.980 doesn't just cover sin. It covers everything 00:01:22.980 --> 00:01:26.090 that isn't like our Heavenly Father. And I think 00:01:26.090 --> 00:01:28.269 we understand that differently today than we 00:01:28.269 --> 00:01:31.569 did then. So, Deb, when you think about Holy 00:01:31.569 --> 00:01:35.810 Week now compared to even just a few years ago, 00:01:36.189 --> 00:01:40.629 what feels different to you? Well, just to remind 00:01:40.629 --> 00:01:44.069 you, that was in April of twenty twenty two when 00:01:44.069 --> 00:01:47.829 that very first launched. And we have had a lot 00:01:47.829 --> 00:01:53.349 happen between then and now. And for me personally, 00:01:53.349 --> 00:01:58.040 it has drastically changed how I look at the 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:02.140 Atonement of Jesus Christ. Holy Week, we had 00:02:02.140 --> 00:02:04.959 a sacred opportunity to go to Israel and walk 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:09.520 on the Holy Lands and touch, feel, smell, taste, 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:13.379 and even listening to that episode just recently 00:02:13.379 --> 00:02:20.250 has been such a gift. As I look back, how every 00:02:20.250 --> 00:02:23.889 year and every moment. And I love how you said, 00:02:24.370 --> 00:02:28.610 Dave and I intentionally planned this to focus 00:02:28.610 --> 00:02:32.710 on hope, healing and redemption. And I think, 00:02:32.770 --> 00:02:37.569 you know, for me, now the intention is make Holy 00:02:37.569 --> 00:02:43.439 Week more holy and sanctify it into who I am. 00:02:43.539 --> 00:02:46.439 You know, we had such a sacred opportunity for 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:50.280 Palm Sunday to walk with our children in a Palm 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:54.280 Sunday walk. And just that's something we haven't 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:58.340 done before, but every year we just add something 00:02:58.340 --> 00:03:03.400 new that will bring Christ more fully and more 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:07.560 holy into this week. You know, and I think it 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:11.139 feels more personal now. I feel like it's more 00:03:11.139 --> 00:03:14.710 intentional. It has changed my relationship with 00:03:14.710 --> 00:03:18.789 my Savior. It has absolutely changed everything 00:03:18.789 --> 00:03:22.370 with my relationship with Heavenly Father and 00:03:22.370 --> 00:03:29.310 Jesus Christ. So I think for me personally, it 00:03:29.310 --> 00:03:36.250 has softened and made me more excited for this 00:03:36.250 --> 00:03:41.830 season. I love spring. I love, love, love it 00:03:41.830 --> 00:03:45.449 when there is dead ground and everything looks 00:03:45.449 --> 00:03:48.189 completely dead and there is a bright yellow 00:03:48.189 --> 00:03:53.430 or bright purple flower, crocus, daffodil, whatever 00:03:53.430 --> 00:03:56.409 it is, hyacinths that come out of the ground 00:03:56.409 --> 00:04:00.110 and pop that bright color. There's such a renewal 00:04:00.110 --> 00:04:05.830 and such a gratitude in my heart for that resurrection. 00:04:06.169 --> 00:04:10.370 You know, it really is so intentional and my 00:04:10.370 --> 00:04:13.930 eyes are very open to that. I think it's so important 00:04:13.930 --> 00:04:19.949 for me personally to see Jesus, to see the Savior, 00:04:20.550 --> 00:04:24.290 to see Heavenly Father in every aspect of my 00:04:24.290 --> 00:04:27.829 life, you know, not just this Holy Week. One 00:04:27.829 --> 00:04:30.470 of the things that, you know, as I relisten to 00:04:30.470 --> 00:04:35.449 that episode, back in 2022, one thing that David 00:04:35.449 --> 00:04:40.170 said is everything comes down to relationships. 00:04:40.850 --> 00:04:44.569 And one of the things that you said is, what 00:04:44.569 --> 00:04:48.329 would you do with this Jesus? I think if I could 00:04:48.329 --> 00:04:53.290 say what changed for me the most is Holy Week 00:04:53.290 --> 00:04:57.589 isn't about what Jesus did. It's about what I 00:04:57.589 --> 00:05:02.959 do with him. And, you know, that question that 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:06.339 Pilate asked, what would you have me do with 00:05:06.339 --> 00:05:11.740 this Jesus? That's not just a question. That's 00:05:11.740 --> 00:05:14.899 not just his question. That's our question. What 00:05:14.899 --> 00:05:18.839 would I do with this Jesus? So what we're going 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:23.579 to do today is go back to the beginning and give 00:05:23.579 --> 00:05:27.600 you this same gift. Maybe you'll hear something 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:31.920 in it now. It hits you differently than it would 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:34.420 have then. I mean, you know, this is four years 00:05:34.420 --> 00:05:37.519 later and as we study and grow and as things 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:40.319 have changed, because this week, this isn't just 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:45.240 history. This is absolutely everything. This 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:50.019 is what it's based on. Yeah. Enjoy the podcast. 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:04.560 You know, Jesus lived 33 years, give or take. 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:09.420 We know more about what he said and what he did 00:06:09.420 --> 00:06:13.360 on Tuesday, today, of the last week of his life. 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:16.779 More is recorded in the gospels about what he 00:06:16.779 --> 00:06:20.839 said and did today than any other day of his 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:25.939 life. Second would be Thursday. the day of atonement 00:06:25.939 --> 00:06:28.740 in Gethsemane when he's in the Last Supper and 00:06:28.740 --> 00:06:32.279 John records several chapters of what takes place 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:35.959 in the Upper Room. But we have six, almost, almost 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:40.379 six chapters recorded in Matthew alone about 00:06:40.379 --> 00:06:45.379 what Jesus said and did on Tuesday. You know, 00:06:45.379 --> 00:06:49.040 so let's back up for just a moment and and review 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:52.759 that on Saturday or Friday of last week Jesus 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:57.259 makes his final last trip into Jerusalem He goes 00:06:57.259 --> 00:07:01.079 to Bethany, which is just a few miles southeast 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:05.000 of Jerusalem up over the hill of the Mount of 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:10.319 Olives And he goes to Bethany which is a beautiful 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:13.860 little town. I've been there and he stays at 00:07:13.860 --> 00:07:18.139 the home of Martha and Mary and Lazarus. Same 00:07:18.139 --> 00:07:21.800 Lazarus that he called forth out of the tomb 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:25.199 after being dead for four days, probably just 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:30.000 a few months before this final week. And actually 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:33.240 Lazarus becomes one of the greatest signs or 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:36.300 evidences of the divinity of Christ. And the 00:07:36.300 --> 00:07:40.259 Jews, of course, knowing that he was dead for 00:07:40.259 --> 00:07:44.899 four days and that Jesus restores his life, he 00:07:44.899 --> 00:07:50.240 becomes a... kind of the evidence of Jesus's 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:53.000 divinity, which the Jews want to destroy, and 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:56.779 there's a conspiracy on Lazarus's life. And that's 00:07:56.779 --> 00:07:59.540 where Jesus goes and stays, is at his home with 00:07:59.540 --> 00:08:03.100 Mary and Martha, his sisters. And he'll go back 00:08:03.100 --> 00:08:06.399 and forth to Jerusalem every day. this final 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.980 week except Wednesday and we believe that on 00:08:08.980 --> 00:08:12.160 Wednesday he just stayed in Bethany the whole 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:17.079 day and rested and got his kind of strength and 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:20.180 energy up for what was going to the awful events 00:08:20.180 --> 00:08:22.000 that were going to take place on Thursday and 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:28.199 Friday. What a what a great time to be alive 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:30.220 today, right? When we have all of this information, 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:32.940 we have all of these insights, we have an opportunity 00:08:32.940 --> 00:08:35.539 now through the restoration of the gospel to 00:08:35.539 --> 00:08:38.580 have the spirit testifying to us the truthfulness 00:08:38.580 --> 00:08:40.360 of the things that we're talking about, Dave. 00:08:40.860 --> 00:08:44.539 And you know, there's a... I was listening to 00:08:44.539 --> 00:08:47.820 another podcast just yesterday about these very 00:08:47.820 --> 00:08:50.559 things, and somebody was talking about how Bethany, 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:54.059 being just shortly away from the walls of Jerusalem, 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.740 was really kind of a place where people went 00:08:57.740 --> 00:09:00.480 that didn't fit necessarily in Jerusalem, and 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:02.259 there was a distance. In fact, that's where, 00:09:02.740 --> 00:09:05.379 and correct me if I'm wrong, but were there lepers 00:09:05.379 --> 00:09:08.379 would go there and other people to heal because 00:09:08.379 --> 00:09:10.700 they weren't necessarily, there had to be that 00:09:10.700 --> 00:09:12.899 space between Bethany and the walls of Jerusalem. 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:16.039 of Jerusalem to protect the cleansing of the 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:18.519 Jews. Is there some accuracy in that? Well, I 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:21.059 think one reason they say that, Scott, is because 00:09:21.059 --> 00:09:24.519 in one of the gospels it says that he stayed 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:26.620 at the home, or he went to the home of Simon 00:09:26.620 --> 00:09:30.580 the leper in Bethany. Right. And we don't know 00:09:30.580 --> 00:09:34.860 if that's Martha and Marian Lazarus' dad, or 00:09:34.860 --> 00:09:37.120 we don't know if that's another home, a neighbor, 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.440 or we don't know anything about that. but apparently 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:44.600 it's a leper that Jesus has healed. Whether that 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:47.120 took place in Bethany or some other place, I 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:51.799 don't know. So I don't know about so much about 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:54.259 Bethany, but I think that's why maybe some people 00:09:54.259 --> 00:09:57.320 say that. It's interesting to me, Dave, how he 00:09:57.320 --> 00:09:59.379 surrounded himself by those that he was close 00:09:59.379 --> 00:10:02.500 to. Martha and Mary, people that he was close 00:10:02.500 --> 00:10:06.840 to. Obviously Lazarus was a very close friend 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:09.980 of his. And in reflection, when those of us... 00:10:10.009 --> 00:10:12.169 who are going before and we know we're going 00:10:12.169 --> 00:10:14.029 to face tough times and we have those come up 00:10:14.029 --> 00:10:17.370 in our lives. We have our own holy weeks, our 00:10:17.370 --> 00:10:20.169 own preparations as we prepare to bear the crosses 00:10:20.169 --> 00:10:24.070 that we get to bear in our lives. To go where 00:10:24.070 --> 00:10:27.529 he went, to be ministered to the way he was ministered 00:10:27.529 --> 00:10:30.409 to and will be even later more just speaks to 00:10:30.409 --> 00:10:33.230 the importance of not just our eternal relationships 00:10:33.230 --> 00:10:36.330 but our eternal relationships as they are even 00:10:36.330 --> 00:10:39.899 existing here in this existence too, Dave. Well, 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.019 we'll probably say this several times, Scott, 00:10:43.019 --> 00:10:46.360 in this podcast, but the gospel of Jesus Christ, 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.740 everything, everything, if you take all the doctrine, 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:52.759 all the principles, all the practices, all the 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.200 commandments, everything in the gospel, policies 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:59.299 and procedures, everything, it comes down to 00:10:59.299 --> 00:11:03.080 one point, which is relationships. It comes down 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:08.100 to sacred relationships with deity, with family. 00:11:08.269 --> 00:11:12.710 even coming to know ourselves and where we stand 00:11:12.710 --> 00:11:17.350 with God and with deity. And so I think that's 00:11:17.350 --> 00:11:21.610 a great point that you're making. Now, yesterday, 00:11:22.269 --> 00:11:26.230 Jesus went into Jerusalem and we know he went 00:11:26.230 --> 00:11:28.710 to the temple and he cleansed the temple again. 00:11:30.009 --> 00:11:32.789 We have two recordings of him doing that. The 00:11:32.789 --> 00:11:35.409 first Passover when he began his full -time ministry, 00:11:35.730 --> 00:11:38.210 he went to Jerusalem and he cleansed the temple. 00:11:38.909 --> 00:11:41.590 And now for the second time, he goes there. And 00:11:41.590 --> 00:11:45.690 I actually believe it's possible that he went 00:11:45.690 --> 00:11:48.690 there three times and cleansed the temple maybe 00:11:48.690 --> 00:11:50.850 three times. Every time he goes to the temple 00:11:50.850 --> 00:11:54.519 during Passover, he... Cleanses the temple and 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:56.940 we don't know if he went there his second year 00:11:56.940 --> 00:11:59.460 of his ministry or not There's no nothing recorded 00:11:59.460 --> 00:12:03.820 about that And so he cleanses the temple yesterday. 00:12:03.820 --> 00:12:07.820 I think that speaks so much about his reverence 00:12:07.820 --> 00:12:11.139 and respect for the father's house and for who 00:12:11.139 --> 00:12:14.899 the father was and for for how he saw the temple 00:12:14.899 --> 00:12:18.840 the house of the Lord and I think that's just 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.980 a really important event that that takes place 00:12:22.980 --> 00:12:27.059 yesterday. And he, on the way to Jerusalem, he 00:12:27.059 --> 00:12:31.120 sees this fig tree. And this fig tree doesn't 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.500 have any blossoms or fruit. It's spring of the 00:12:33.500 --> 00:12:37.460 year, so a fig tree probably should have blossoms 00:12:37.460 --> 00:12:39.779 and maybe most of the other fruit trees did. 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:43.159 And this one didn't. And it's just a beautiful 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:46.820 tree with leaves. It's become a shade tree and 00:12:46.820 --> 00:12:50.409 is no longer a fruit tree. and Jesus curses it. 00:12:50.490 --> 00:12:54.250 We know of so many examples, multitudes, in some 00:12:54.250 --> 00:12:57.570 verses says he healed multitudes. It says that 00:12:57.570 --> 00:13:01.049 in multiple places in the gospels. And this is 00:13:01.049 --> 00:13:03.990 the only thing, the only thing, Scott, that we 00:13:03.990 --> 00:13:09.070 know of that he killed was a fig tree. To make 00:13:09.070 --> 00:13:12.769 a critical point, when they go back to Jerusalem 00:13:12.769 --> 00:13:16.669 on Tuesday morning, He's with his disciples, 00:13:16.750 --> 00:13:20.250 they travel with him, and they notice that the 00:13:20.250 --> 00:13:23.590 fig tree is dead. And they're amazed by that 00:13:23.590 --> 00:13:28.669 and point that out in the gospels. And I think 00:13:28.669 --> 00:13:32.210 it's such a, you know, elder Talmage in Jesus 00:13:32.210 --> 00:13:34.490 to Christ makes the point that this is one of 00:13:34.490 --> 00:13:38.649 his greatest object lessons for teaching hypocrisy. 00:13:39.049 --> 00:13:43.740 We are not meant to be fruit trees. We are meant 00:13:43.740 --> 00:13:48.419 to bear fruit That was his point right and he 00:13:48.419 --> 00:13:52.539 is going to offer us the ultimate Fruit it by 00:13:52.539 --> 00:13:54.919 the way of his atonement in just a few days after 00:13:54.919 --> 00:14:00.700 that event Yeah, so a lot of great things happening 00:14:00.909 --> 00:14:04.129 And we're just starting now to scratch the surface 00:14:04.129 --> 00:14:07.250 of this holy week. And we're gonna invite you 00:14:07.250 --> 00:14:10.009 as listeners, as you're going through this with 00:14:10.009 --> 00:14:13.049 us, maybe take your notepad out, maybe start 00:14:13.049 --> 00:14:15.629 making a few notes of impressions you might be 00:14:15.629 --> 00:14:18.850 having about how does this apply to me and how 00:14:18.850 --> 00:14:22.190 can my life be better enriched by applying some 00:14:22.190 --> 00:14:24.230 of the principles that maybe the Spirit's moving 00:14:24.230 --> 00:14:28.570 us to act upon. One of the things that we're 00:14:28.570 --> 00:14:30.580 gonna be talking about through... throughout 00:14:30.580 --> 00:14:33.340 the process of this podcast as we go week to 00:14:33.340 --> 00:14:36.779 week is how our lives can become better through 00:14:36.779 --> 00:14:40.559 a relationship with the divine, through the Lord 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.360 and Savior Jesus Christ. But we know, and we're 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:45.899 commanded actually, we're commanded, we're told 00:14:45.899 --> 00:14:48.120 in scripture that this is life eternal, that 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:51.120 they might know thee, the only true God and Jesus 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:54.539 Christ whom thou hast sent. And it's so important 00:14:54.539 --> 00:14:58.299 that we know Jesus Christ. Knowing him gives 00:14:58.299 --> 00:15:02.120 us the opportunity to really understand his love 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:05.220 for us, to really understand the direction that 00:15:05.220 --> 00:15:09.139 he took when he came to fulfill his promise in 00:15:09.139 --> 00:15:16.679 response, not as a reaction to, but in planning 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.480 for the fall. And so, you know, as that happened 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.379 and as we start to realize and recognize and 00:15:24.379 --> 00:15:26.879 learn some of these, not just fun things, but 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:28.879 some of these really important things about the 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.840 Savior Jesus Christ in his last week of his life, 00:15:32.500 --> 00:15:35.899 how important it would be maybe that we understand 00:15:35.899 --> 00:15:38.500 and we decide how to make that applicable in 00:15:38.500 --> 00:15:42.740 our own lives. Yeah, good Scott. And so on Tuesday, 00:15:43.019 --> 00:15:46.419 the day that's where there's more written word. 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:49.120 about what Jesus said and did than any other 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:54.639 day. We have him again going to the temple, and 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:59.220 boy, I think if there's two things Jesus hates, 00:15:59.700 --> 00:16:02.100 and it seems pretty clear as last week that they 00:16:02.100 --> 00:16:06.779 become evident, is he hates people mocking his 00:16:06.779 --> 00:16:11.019 father, or he hates irreverence of sacred things. 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:13.659 That's evidenced by his cleansing of the temple. 00:16:14.139 --> 00:16:18.840 And the second thing is, He hates, and I don't 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:22.820 think I'm using that word too strong, he hates 00:16:22.820 --> 00:16:28.899 self -righteousness. And this day when he goes 00:16:28.899 --> 00:16:32.559 to the temple on Tuesday, he really lets the 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:35.659 Pharisees and the Sadducees have it. He's held 00:16:35.659 --> 00:16:40.759 back somewhat, and now he's calling them out. 00:16:42.050 --> 00:16:46.029 and he's calling them white as sepulchers and 00:16:46.029 --> 00:16:48.570 He just really lets them have it. He tells them 00:16:48.570 --> 00:16:51.509 that a widow who pays a might he observes this 00:16:51.509 --> 00:16:54.509 widow paying a might at the temple and tells 00:16:54.509 --> 00:16:56.629 him that she's more righteous than all of them 00:16:56.629 --> 00:17:01.629 combined and So he he just really lets the Pharisees 00:17:01.629 --> 00:17:04.589 and the Sadducees have it. He gives some pretty 00:17:04.589 --> 00:17:08.269 hard parables, which of course goes right over 00:17:08.269 --> 00:17:09.809 the top of their head because they don't understand 00:17:09.809 --> 00:17:13.029 them and he He has saved these parables, I think, 00:17:13.170 --> 00:17:17.650 for some time, to give this day the parable of 00:17:17.650 --> 00:17:20.650 the two sons, the parable of the wicked husbandman, 00:17:21.109 --> 00:17:25.130 the parable of the wedding of the king's son, 00:17:25.789 --> 00:17:29.210 the 10 virgins, the parable of the talents, and 00:17:29.210 --> 00:17:32.210 the parable of the sheep and goats. Teaching 00:17:32.210 --> 00:17:36.039 Tuesday. This, that's a good. Teaching Tuesday 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:40.599 is probably a good way to say it. And he finishes 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:43.960 the day, Scott, so sacred and we're so blessed 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:46.440 because we have the restored gospel that we know 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:48.759 more about this than anyone else in the world, 00:17:49.140 --> 00:17:52.660 is that he goes up on the Mount of Olives with 00:17:52.660 --> 00:17:55.460 just his disciples and he talks about his second 00:17:55.460 --> 00:17:58.500 coming. and he gives all the signs of his second 00:17:58.500 --> 00:18:02.480 coming. This is the Matthew 24 and Joseph Smith, 00:18:02.700 --> 00:18:06.000 of course, in the Joseph Smith translation. And 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:07.799 in the Pearl of Great Price, we have Joseph Smith, 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.740 Matthew, in which... we have additional information, 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:14.799 and then Doctrine and Covenants section 45, Joseph 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:18.319 Smith has this vision of Jesus Christ on the 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:21.079 Mount of Olives on Tuesday teaching his disciples, 00:18:21.339 --> 00:18:23.920 and we have even additional signs and times of 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:27.279 what Jesus gave his disciples. So we have three 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.559 sources of what happened on the Mount of Olives 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:33.420 Tuesday night, which was Matthew 24, Joseph Smith, 00:18:33.420 --> 00:18:35.839 Matthew, and Doctrine and Covenants section 45. 00:18:36.380 --> 00:18:40.279 And these really deserve our attention to know 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:44.839 what we need to do in order to prepare for the 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:49.000 second coming of Jesus Christ. So I think Matthew 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:54.660 24 and the other sources that we have are really 00:18:54.660 --> 00:18:57.480 deserve our attention. And they take place on 00:18:57.480 --> 00:19:00.799 Tuesday evening on the Mount of Olives. He weeps 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:05.250 on the Mount of Olives for Jerusalem and... The 00:19:05.250 --> 00:19:07.309 next day is Wednesday and we don't know anything 00:19:07.309 --> 00:19:11.170 that happened Wednesday and that sets us up for 00:19:11.170 --> 00:19:18.349 atonement Thursday. Which is undoubtedly unarguably. 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:22.400 the most important, kind of the culmination, 00:19:22.859 --> 00:19:25.079 and it's not just that date, not just that event, 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:28.339 but as that starts to take place on Thursday, 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:34.460 and we see now the real apex of everything that 00:19:34.460 --> 00:19:39.140 Jesus Christ was sent to earth to perform, for 00:19:39.140 --> 00:19:44.180 and in behalf of all of us, what a great opportunity 00:19:44.180 --> 00:19:48.150 it is now for us to embrace that and to... through 00:19:48.150 --> 00:19:50.869 our obedience and through our love of the Savior 00:19:50.869 --> 00:19:54.109 to express that to other people that we come 00:19:54.109 --> 00:19:56.769 in contact with. Everybody around us is our brother 00:19:56.769 --> 00:19:59.230 and sister. And, you know, Jesus Christ has made 00:19:59.230 --> 00:20:03.349 this an opportunity, made this possible for us 00:20:03.349 --> 00:20:05.789 to be able to share this, to share this great 00:20:05.789 --> 00:20:07.549 news with each other. And I'm just grateful that 00:20:07.549 --> 00:20:09.069 we're having that opportunity to do it, Dave. 00:20:10.009 --> 00:20:15.599 Yeah, so on Thursday, Scott, Now let's remember 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:18.500 that their calendar, Jewish calendar, is a little 00:20:18.500 --> 00:20:22.039 bit different than ours. I've been talking about 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:26.859 the days based on our rendering of time, which 00:20:26.859 --> 00:20:31.700 is a Gregorian calendar or a Roman calendar, 00:20:31.819 --> 00:20:35.500 which is determined by the sun. The Jews calendar 00:20:35.500 --> 00:20:40.440 was determined by the moon. And a new day began 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:45.730 at sunset. So when the sun set, that would be 00:20:45.730 --> 00:20:49.569 the beginning of a new day. So for Jesus and 00:20:49.569 --> 00:20:54.990 the Jews at this time, their day was up until 00:20:54.990 --> 00:20:59.920 the evening. And so it's Thursday up until the 00:20:59.920 --> 00:21:02.880 evening, and so it really begins their Friday 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:07.319 at sunset. And at that point, really, the disciples 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:10.839 with Jesus have gathered together in the Upper 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:15.740 Room in Jerusalem, and Jesus begins to teach 00:21:15.740 --> 00:21:20.500 them. And some of his greatest teachings are 00:21:20.500 --> 00:21:27.490 recorded in the Gospel of John, chapters... 13, 00:21:27.490 --> 00:21:33.869 14, 15, 16, these are just some of his greatest 00:21:33.869 --> 00:21:36.950 teachings on, you know, a new commandment I give 00:21:36.950 --> 00:21:42.509 unto you, love one another as I have loved you, 00:21:43.069 --> 00:21:47.880 heat. talks about the discourse on the comforter. 00:21:48.660 --> 00:21:51.299 He talks about the true vine. I think that's 00:21:51.299 --> 00:21:53.900 one of my favorite passages in these chapters 00:21:53.900 --> 00:21:57.319 is John 15, one through five. I am the vine, 00:21:57.339 --> 00:22:02.859 he says. Ye are the branches. Without me ye can 00:22:02.859 --> 00:22:06.779 do nothing. And then he teaches them to, of course, 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:11.359 love one another, and he identifies his betrayer. 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:15.170 Before all of this, Scott this has always been 00:22:15.170 --> 00:22:18.049 so touching to me about the character of Jesus 00:22:18.049 --> 00:22:21.369 is that he knows of course who his betrayer is 00:22:21.369 --> 00:22:25.250 going to be Judas one of the twelve and Judas 00:22:25.250 --> 00:22:29.430 is in the room and Before Judas leaves and he's 00:22:29.430 --> 00:22:35.829 identified by Jesus He washes his feet When Jesus 00:22:35.829 --> 00:22:39.170 washes the feet of his disciples in the upper 00:22:39.170 --> 00:22:44.220 room Judas is there Jesus washes Judas's feet. 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:49.099 I just think that is just unbelievably tender 00:22:49.099 --> 00:22:58.380 about how Judas is loved by Jesus Christ. I don't 00:22:58.380 --> 00:23:01.920 think Jesus in any way had any ulterior motive 00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:04.980 in doing that. It wasn't to make him feel worse 00:23:04.980 --> 00:23:08.680 about it what he was going to do. It was actually 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:11.779 maybe I mean, Jesus knew how all this was gonna 00:23:11.779 --> 00:23:16.259 play out, and Jesus wanted him to know that he 00:23:16.259 --> 00:23:22.700 loved him. So all of those events happen, and 00:23:22.700 --> 00:23:29.019 then about 9 p .m., they sing a hymn. They end 00:23:29.019 --> 00:23:32.160 with singing a hymn, which was typical. That 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:36.079 was kind of the Jewish tradition, partaking of 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:42.349 the Passover. And he goes to Gethsemane. I think 00:23:42.349 --> 00:23:46.450 this is a place where he has identified Gethsemane 00:23:46.450 --> 00:23:51.589 literally means the press, the oil press. I've 00:23:51.589 --> 00:23:55.509 been there, I've seen the vat which they would 00:23:55.509 --> 00:23:59.950 make crush olives in, the stones and the olives 00:23:59.950 --> 00:24:04.369 with this huge stone that would roll around in 00:24:04.369 --> 00:24:09.789 this big rock. barrel shape and they would crush 00:24:09.789 --> 00:24:14.390 olive pits and this is a place where Jesus's 00:24:14.390 --> 00:24:21.089 heart is crushed and Jesus were like the oil 00:24:21.089 --> 00:24:23.910 out of olives would ooze out of out of these 00:24:23.910 --> 00:24:30.599 this hole in this stone vat ooze would Blood 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.380 would ooze out of Jesus's pores and that that 00:24:33.380 --> 00:24:36.240 takes place that event which we can talk more 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:41.299 about in a minute Between 9 p .m. And and midnight. 00:24:41.299 --> 00:24:45.400 He's there for three hours You know, let's go 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.599 back just real quick to the experience with Judas, 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.480 you know, to wash the feet of Judas Iscariot 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:55.500 when he knows full well what's coming. And, you 00:24:55.500 --> 00:24:57.779 know, and Judas had kind of tipped his hand. 00:24:58.420 --> 00:25:02.619 Judas had had some issues, maybe, maybe with 00:25:02.619 --> 00:25:04.599 money. There's been some speculation around that. 00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:06.740 Oh, no, he did. Because he held the purse, you 00:25:06.740 --> 00:25:09.200 know, and there was all that too. And Jesus is 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:11.960 fully aware of all that, you know. And so I think 00:25:12.109 --> 00:25:15.390 When have I been Judas? I think, and we're gonna 00:25:15.390 --> 00:25:18.650 learn later that Peter also denied the Christ. 00:25:19.250 --> 00:25:21.630 And so each one of these situations, I think 00:25:21.630 --> 00:25:24.630 it's so easy for us in Christendom to just jump 00:25:24.630 --> 00:25:27.029 right into harsh judgment towards Judas. And 00:25:27.029 --> 00:25:29.930 I don't think that that's necessarily wrong for 00:25:29.930 --> 00:25:32.450 us to think, oh my gosh, Judas, what were you 00:25:32.450 --> 00:25:35.210 thinking? But at the same time, to have the kind 00:25:35.210 --> 00:25:39.049 of love displayed from... Jesus Christ from his 00:25:39.049 --> 00:25:42.849 Lord and Savior, my Lord and Savior, even though... 00:25:42.619 --> 00:25:46.240 even though he knew what was coming, even though 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:49.740 he knew what had already come. I think that just 00:25:49.740 --> 00:25:56.039 deepens my love of the Savior because he was 00:25:56.039 --> 00:26:00.500 able to see past and to love Judas in spite of 00:26:00.500 --> 00:26:02.160 all of that. I know he has the ability to do 00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.680 that. I haven't betrayed him like that, right? 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.740 I mean, there have been times in our lives, all 00:26:07.740 --> 00:26:09.980 of our lives, when we go contrary, when we live 00:26:09.980 --> 00:26:12.339 our lives contrary to the teachings of... of 00:26:12.339 --> 00:26:14.640 Jesus Christ, that's the natural man in all of 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:17.500 us. That's why this event was so important to 00:26:17.500 --> 00:26:21.000 take place, not just as a backup plan, just in 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.039 case Scott's not good enough, just in case Dave's 00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:26.019 not good enough, just in case Judas Iscariot 00:26:26.019 --> 00:26:29.339 or whatever betrays me, all of that, to know 00:26:29.339 --> 00:26:31.859 that he knew that anyway and displayed that kind 00:26:31.859 --> 00:26:35.079 of love to Judas gives me all kinds of comfort 00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:41.269 that he can love me still too. I don't want to 00:26:41.269 --> 00:26:43.289 talk too much about Judas. We need to focus on 00:26:43.289 --> 00:26:47.089 Jesus, but You know Judas doesn't have the Holy 00:26:47.089 --> 00:26:49.750 Ghost Scott. Yeah, they they don't have the gift 00:26:49.750 --> 00:26:53.049 of the Holy Ghost yet won't come and tell Pentecost 00:26:53.049 --> 00:26:57.630 and I think it's pretty clear that we believe 00:26:58.399 --> 00:27:02.619 that Judas was definitely not a son of perdition. 00:27:03.059 --> 00:27:06.440 We don't know where Judas will be. We can't judge 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:10.000 him. We should try to, you know, what he did 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:14.359 was wrong. It was evil. Certainly he gave in 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:17.759 to temptation and greed or whatever. I mean, 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:21.390 30 pieces of silver was... you know price of 00:27:21.390 --> 00:27:25.289 a slave in the Old Testament and for him to Basically 00:27:25.289 --> 00:27:29.829 sell Jesus out that way But we it's hard to know 00:27:29.829 --> 00:27:33.009 what he was thinking. It's hard to know and we 00:27:33.009 --> 00:27:35.650 don't want to be harsh But apparently he felt 00:27:35.650 --> 00:27:38.829 so bad about it after the events of Friday and 00:27:38.829 --> 00:27:41.809 the crucifixion took place That it's recorded 00:27:41.809 --> 00:27:46.190 that Judas went out and killed himself Just south 00:27:46.190 --> 00:27:52.059 in a field in not far from Gethsemane so Maybe 00:27:52.059 --> 00:27:56.039 there's still hope for for Judas who knows Jesus 00:27:56.039 --> 00:28:01.619 between 9 p .m. On our Thursday on their Friday 00:28:01.619 --> 00:28:08.160 night He he Goes and he falls down and it's so 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:12.619 interesting that that Matthew records He fell 00:28:12.619 --> 00:28:19.259 on his face Luke says that he knelt And we have 00:28:19.259 --> 00:28:21.859 great pictures of Harry Anderson and others who 00:28:21.859 --> 00:28:24.700 show him kneeling at a rock, right? And I love 00:28:24.700 --> 00:28:29.519 those pictures, but there's a few paintings that 00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:33.859 I think depict it more accurately, showing Jesus 00:28:33.859 --> 00:28:36.619 falling on his face. I mean, he is flat out. 00:28:36.859 --> 00:28:42.160 He is laid out when he's praying. Luke says he's 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.740 kneeling too, so I think it's both. I think he 00:28:44.740 --> 00:28:48.940 does kneel, but. but eventually he is laid out 00:28:48.940 --> 00:28:54.599 when he's feeling the pain, feeling all of the 00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:56.720 suffering for the pains and sicknesses of his 00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:05.240 people. And he bleeds from every pore. There 00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:08.599 is a medical condition where that's been observed, 00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:12.220 not from every pore, but where someone is experiencing 00:29:12.220 --> 00:29:19.109 such great pain and anxiety. that there's a little 00:29:19.109 --> 00:29:26.269 pink, maybe blood mingled with some sweat. We 00:29:26.269 --> 00:29:31.150 believe, Scott, we're the only Christian church 00:29:31.150 --> 00:29:35.009 in the world that really knows that Jesus bled 00:29:35.009 --> 00:29:38.269 from every pore. Most churches don't even believe 00:29:38.269 --> 00:29:41.950 there was any blood in his sweat. That's a medical 00:29:41.950 --> 00:29:46.880 term called hematidrosis. Hema blood and and 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.380 the dross is sweat. It's bloody sweat is what 00:29:49.380 --> 00:29:52.220 that term means It's been observed a couple times 00:29:52.220 --> 00:29:57.299 in medical history But no one else believes he 00:29:57.299 --> 00:30:01.839 bled from every pore That was first taught by 00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:04.740 book King Benjamin in the Book of Mormon Mosiah 00:30:04.740 --> 00:30:09.079 3 7 and then Jesus himself in a revelation Through 00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:11.980 the Prophet Joseph Smith the NC 19 reaffirms 00:30:11.980 --> 00:30:17.319 that He bled from every pore. So we're really 00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:21.200 blessed to have the restoration to give us a 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:25.119 glimpse, which is totally incomprehensible, how 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:29.819 much he really suffered there. I think that bleeding 00:30:29.819 --> 00:30:33.599 from every pore really gives it a exclamation 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.619 point at the end of the sentence that Jesus died 00:30:36.619 --> 00:30:40.619 for us, right? I mean, I don't know that, and 00:30:40.619 --> 00:30:43.420 you say that it's been observed a couple of times 00:30:43.420 --> 00:30:46.940 in medical history, not the full body, you know, 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:52.049 giving off this phenomenon, but. to have that 00:30:52.049 --> 00:30:55.269 at all and to have that full body, I mean, that 00:30:55.269 --> 00:30:59.789 just really, to me, goes into the depth of, he 00:30:59.789 --> 00:31:01.750 didn't just give his life for us, man. He really 00:31:01.750 --> 00:31:04.609 suffered. He really, it wasn't just go in and 00:31:04.609 --> 00:31:08.009 die. It was a go in and I gotta pay for Scott's 00:31:08.009 --> 00:31:10.549 sins right here, and I gotta pay for Dave's sins, 00:31:10.569 --> 00:31:12.589 and I gotta pay for, and not just my sins, but 00:31:12.589 --> 00:31:15.490 all of the things in my life that have been messed 00:31:15.490 --> 00:31:18.730 up. All of the things that may have happened 00:31:18.730 --> 00:31:21.680 to me, things that I may have, perpetuated on 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:24.680 others. Injustices. All of that. Inequalities. 00:31:24.819 --> 00:31:29.720 Yes. Every negative, Scott, every negative that 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:36.980 we suffer that we didn't choose is covered by 00:31:36.980 --> 00:31:38.599 the atonement of Jesus Christ. Now you think 00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:43.059 about that. All of the pains and sicknesses and 00:31:43.059 --> 00:31:48.000 abuses. That we suffer because of the fall of 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:51.599 Adam and Eve in a fallen wicked world That happened 00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:56.420 to all of us probably daily All of that is covered 00:31:56.420 --> 00:31:59.809 unconditionally by the atonement of Jesus Christ. 00:32:00.289 --> 00:32:03.470 Yeah, and I think as we get into this redemption 00:32:03.470 --> 00:32:06.329 concept in coming weeks, we probably won't take 00:32:06.329 --> 00:32:08.910 time to spend with it much today, but in coming 00:32:08.910 --> 00:32:11.509 weeks, we're really going to be focusing, I think, 00:32:11.670 --> 00:32:14.829 Dave, on how that applies to all of us. And you 00:32:14.829 --> 00:32:16.490 say, you know, all of those things that happened 00:32:16.490 --> 00:32:19.549 to us that we didn't choose, I might submit that 00:32:19.549 --> 00:32:22.549 even some of the, not some of the, I even submit 00:32:22.549 --> 00:32:24.890 that all of the stuff, even that we did choose. 00:32:25.130 --> 00:32:27.549 that brought pain on us, was paid for there. 00:32:28.049 --> 00:32:31.150 It was completely covered. We do need to repent. 00:32:31.690 --> 00:32:33.750 It requires a turning. Yeah, so that's conditional. 00:32:34.049 --> 00:32:37.869 100 % right. That requires us to turn away from 00:32:37.869 --> 00:32:40.390 and face the Savior, put our back towards, which 00:32:40.390 --> 00:32:43.450 is another word for repentance, to turn our back 00:32:43.450 --> 00:32:46.250 on something and turn and face the Savior. Well, 00:32:46.250 --> 00:32:48.390 that all took place even though, even. Yeah. 00:32:48.589 --> 00:32:50.930 Even with the decisions we made. And I believe, 00:32:50.930 --> 00:32:53.589 I believe Scott that he suffered it even if we 00:32:53.589 --> 00:32:55.789 don't repent. I agree with that. Well, it says 00:32:55.789 --> 00:32:59.150 that. I think everything was covered. Yeah. And 00:32:59.150 --> 00:33:01.190 we're all going to know after this life when 00:33:01.190 --> 00:33:04.089 we see him that he suffered it, whether we repented 00:33:04.089 --> 00:33:06.970 of it or not. And we all will see him, whether 00:33:06.970 --> 00:33:09.829 we repent or not. We'll talk about that in this 00:33:09.829 --> 00:33:12.230 course as well. Right. That all of us will return 00:33:12.230 --> 00:33:16.900 to the presence of God. Even... The most wicked 00:33:16.900 --> 00:33:19.920 will return any presence of God. That's what 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:23.000 the atonement covered We left God's presence 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:24.920 and because of the atonement of Jesus Christ 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:27.980 We're gonna return to his presence and his atonement 00:33:27.980 --> 00:33:31.500 made that possible. That's right So, I don't 00:33:31.500 --> 00:33:33.940 know where we're gonna be on Thursday everyone 00:33:33.940 --> 00:33:35.599 that's listening to this. I don't know where 00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:39.779 you're gonna be But I hope Thursday night you're 00:33:39.779 --> 00:33:43.589 thinking about what happened 2000 -something 00:33:43.589 --> 00:33:46.250 years ago in the Garden of Gethsemane. I hope 00:33:46.250 --> 00:33:49.910 you're thinking about it. And on Friday morning, 00:33:50.769 --> 00:33:53.089 you know, I hope that we're thinking about it. 00:33:53.250 --> 00:33:55.630 He goes through a mockery of a trial. The Jews 00:33:55.630 --> 00:33:59.769 break their own law by having a judgment or a 00:33:59.769 --> 00:34:04.490 trial through the middle of the night. And then 00:34:04.490 --> 00:34:06.589 in the morning he's taken to Pilate. They take 00:34:06.589 --> 00:34:11.469 him to Pilate and... and he's accused of sedition 00:34:11.469 --> 00:34:16.949 and treason. And Pilate sends him to Herod. This 00:34:16.949 --> 00:34:19.190 all is in the morning between six and nine a 00:34:19.190 --> 00:34:24.650 .m. And he sends him to Herod, and Herod, who 00:34:24.650 --> 00:34:28.719 Jesus has called a fox, puts a purple robe on 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.679 him and sends him back to Pilate because Jesus 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:33.920 won't even speak to Herod who's the governor 00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:37.380 of Galilee and is only in Jerusalem because it's 00:34:37.380 --> 00:34:40.900 Passover and he's hypocritically celebrating 00:34:40.900 --> 00:34:44.519 Passover. And so he sends him back to Pilate 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:50.460 and by then Pilate knows and this I guess the 00:34:50.460 --> 00:34:52.900 straw that breaks the camel's back is so to speak 00:34:52.900 --> 00:34:56.719 is when Pilate says it's according to your own 00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:00.619 law you can let one prisoner go free I find Jesus 00:35:00.619 --> 00:35:04.880 to be guiltless so I offer him to let him go 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:10.719 free to find him innocent or I'll give you Bartimaeus 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:13.840 Bartimaeus is a in one of the Gospels called 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:17.119 a murderer he's a thief and a murderer or you 00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:21.280 can let him go free And the Jews prefer to let 00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.340 him go free, a murderer, than to let Jesus go 00:35:24.340 --> 00:35:26.920 free. And some in the crowd, I'm sure led by 00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.960 the Sadducees and Pharisees, and the Sanhedrin 00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:33.780 begin to chant, crucify him, crucify him. And 00:35:33.780 --> 00:35:38.639 so Pilate washes his hands and sends him to be 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:43.280 scourged. At 9 a .m. he's, after carrying his 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.719 own cross, is nailed to the cross at 9 a .m. 00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:51.159 And from 9 a .m., this is important, from 9 a 00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:58.000 .m. to noon, he makes some comments. And then 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:02.360 at 12 noon, all of Gethsemane reoccurs on the 00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:06.039 cross. It's wrong for us to think that Jesus 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:09.539 paid for all of our sins in Gethsemane. That 00:36:09.539 --> 00:36:12.179 was not finished until he said it was finished 00:36:12.179 --> 00:36:16.139 at 3 p .m. On Friday all of the events from Gethsemane 00:36:16.139 --> 00:36:19.599 until he dies at 3 p .m. On Friday is part of 00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:23.119 the suffering And that allows him to not only 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.719 forgive but gives him divine empathy For the 00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.519 sins and sicknesses of the people and gives him 00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:35.000 power to become who he who he is So at noon he 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.570 cries out This is when all of Gethsemane reoccurs 00:36:39.570 --> 00:36:43.929 intensified according to Elder Talmage and Elder 00:36:43.929 --> 00:36:49.909 McConkey Gethsemane intensified Because he cries 00:36:49.909 --> 00:36:54.269 out it goes dark. There's no light and He cries 00:36:54.269 --> 00:37:01.889 out my God my God Why has thou forsaken me? now 00:37:01.889 --> 00:37:06.320 it's not just his three disciples who kind of 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:11.420 in Gethsemane, but now he acknowledges that he's 00:37:11.420 --> 00:37:13.880 all alone and that God has withdrawn his presence 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:18.579 so that he can experience total spiritual death. 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:24.019 That's what he suffered on the cross and in Gethsemane, 00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:26.739 which caused him to bleed from every pore. But 00:37:26.739 --> 00:37:30.619 I just think it's important that we, we as Latter 00:37:30.619 --> 00:37:34.079 -day Saints don't, in my opinion, don't talk 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.500 enough about the cross. We know why we don't 00:37:36.500 --> 00:37:40.699 display it. We know why it's not an image in 00:37:40.699 --> 00:37:45.219 our faith, but we don't talk about it enough 00:37:45.219 --> 00:37:52.800 and we don't understand the great suffering that 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.480 really occurred there and the role it played. 00:37:55.900 --> 00:37:59.840 in him carrying out the atonement. In fact, he 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:02.820 chooses, Scott, to talk about the crucifixion. 00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:05.980 I was crucified for the sins of the world, he 00:38:05.980 --> 00:38:08.400 says, six times in the Doctrine and Covenants, 00:38:08.420 --> 00:38:12.260 he says that. He only chooses to talk about Gethsemane 00:38:12.260 --> 00:38:16.159 one time in the Doctrine and Covenants in D &C 00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:20.920 19. But over and over again, he focuses on the 00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:26.300 suffering on the cross. So the culmination and 00:38:26.300 --> 00:38:29.699 the climax of his suffering does not take place 00:38:29.699 --> 00:38:32.880 in Gethsemane, but on the cross. And by 3 p .m. 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:36.880 he's dead. And then Saturday, of course, they 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.579 have to hurry and bury him because their Sabbath 00:38:38.579 --> 00:38:42.239 begins Friday night. And he's dead on Saturday 00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:45.780 in the spirit world. And on Sunday morning, of 00:38:45.780 --> 00:38:50.769 course, is what we remember and celebrate. as 00:38:50.769 --> 00:38:53.889 his resurrection in Easter. And that's what we'll 00:38:53.889 --> 00:38:56.429 be celebrating this Sunday as we celebrate Easter 00:38:56.429 --> 00:39:02.449 here. And so many things go through my mind as 00:39:02.449 --> 00:39:07.030 you just went through the accounts of that, especially 00:39:07.030 --> 00:39:12.250 Friday, Thursday too, as Jesus did go through 00:39:12.250 --> 00:39:15.530 all of the suffering that he went through. And 00:39:15.530 --> 00:39:17.570 we think about it, we've been taught this since 00:39:17.570 --> 00:39:19.900 we were little kids in Sunday school. for those 00:39:19.900 --> 00:39:21.619 of us who have been around that long, and for 00:39:21.619 --> 00:39:23.420 those of us who haven't, we've still been taught 00:39:23.420 --> 00:39:26.260 this, we're taught it all the time. We hear that, 00:39:26.260 --> 00:39:30.460 you know, why hast thou forsaken me? And he's 00:39:30.460 --> 00:39:32.460 talking to his father. You know, and I never 00:39:32.460 --> 00:39:35.159 really thought about it, Dave, that he had to 00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.920 go through that spiritual death as well. Can 00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:39.659 you expound on that just a little bit, maybe? 00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:45.199 Well, I think, again, when we sin, When we sin 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.679 and we remove ourselves we turn our back on God 00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:56.840 and we deny ourselves His presence Jesus had 00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:59.980 to feel the absolute depths of that I believe 00:39:59.980 --> 00:40:03.900 he felt to some degree what's even sons of perdition 00:40:03.900 --> 00:40:06.739 must feel where there's no light where there's 00:40:06.739 --> 00:40:11.840 complete utter darkness He had to feel this for 00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:16.179 all of the sons and daughters of God who will 00:40:16.179 --> 00:40:21.780 experience it in order to really meet the demands 00:40:21.780 --> 00:40:25.539 of justice and mercy, the laws of justice and 00:40:25.539 --> 00:40:31.139 mercy which he was fulfilling. And so that no 00:40:31.139 --> 00:40:35.599 one will say that he didn't suffer for me, that 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:40.900 he doesn't know how I feel. He suffered it all. 00:40:40.940 --> 00:40:43.739 And he suffered it all. He suffered it all, not 00:40:43.739 --> 00:40:46.219 just our pain. I mean, not just our sin. He didn't 00:40:46.219 --> 00:40:49.000 suffer just for our sin. He suffered it all. 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:51.780 So we have friends, Dave, who have dealt with 00:40:51.780 --> 00:40:54.960 cancer. We have friends in common who have dealt 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:57.199 with the loss of children. We have friends in 00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.420 common, and even you and I have even had these 00:41:00.420 --> 00:41:04.300 types of things in our lives where friends, family, 00:41:04.860 --> 00:41:08.320 ourselves, whatever, by our own choices or by 00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:10.820 the choice of others. You have felt that too. 00:41:11.179 --> 00:41:14.900 And to know that there's hope. When Pilate brought 00:41:14.900 --> 00:41:17.179 Jesus before the crowd, he had a question for 00:41:17.179 --> 00:41:19.300 them. He says, what would you have me do with 00:41:19.300 --> 00:41:22.480 this Jesus who you call Christ, right? And so 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.780 I think that's a question that we need to consider 00:41:25.780 --> 00:41:29.099 in our own lives. What would we do? What do we 00:41:29.099 --> 00:41:33.019 do? How do we approach Jesus Christ in our own 00:41:33.019 --> 00:41:36.659 lives? And are we? Are we, and this is to me 00:41:36.659 --> 00:41:39.239 the most important question, at least in this 00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:45.539 moment, but are we using and applying those things 00:41:45.539 --> 00:41:48.639 that were so freely given to us in the pains 00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:52.000 and depths of Gethsemane, culminating on the 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:56.860 cross on Golgotha, and even still that are rippling 00:41:56.860 --> 00:42:00.699 into eternity front and back of that event. I 00:42:00.699 --> 00:42:03.320 mean, it covered everything that had happened, 00:42:03.739 --> 00:42:06.440 covered everything that will happen, all in that 00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.179 one moment. So we go through this week and maybe 00:42:09.179 --> 00:42:11.920 Thursday in those quiet moments, you know, that 00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:15.960 you suggested for us, Dave. during the Last Supper, 00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.840 between what again, six and nine p .m. during 00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:21.480 that period? Well, that's when, six to nine is 00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.440 probably when they're partaking of their Passover 00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:27.760 meal. I hope that we can put ourselves in the 00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:30.099 seat of that upper room. I hope that we can put 00:42:30.099 --> 00:42:35.150 ourselves in the fold. if you will, of Jesus 00:42:35.150 --> 00:42:40.570 Christ in that moment and realize that maybe 00:42:40.570 --> 00:42:43.250 we were there with him. I know that my trials 00:42:43.250 --> 00:42:46.329 were there. I know that the things that so easily 00:42:46.329 --> 00:42:49.269 beset me and messed me up, I know they were there 00:42:49.269 --> 00:42:54.059 for sure. And so... There's just so much richness, 00:42:54.099 --> 00:42:58.039 so many things that I take and can take from 00:42:58.039 --> 00:42:59.480 the things that we're talking about here. But 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.980 those are a couple of things, Dave, that really 00:43:01.980 --> 00:43:04.480 kind of poignantly hit me today as we're discussing 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.760 this. Well, thank you, Scott. I think maybe it's 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:09.440 appropriate. Are we getting near ending time 00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:13.699 here? We've got about 15 minutes still. You know, 00:43:14.099 --> 00:43:17.719 Scott, this scripture is so powerful and I think 00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:20.619 about it. And you kind of raised the question, 00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.940 you know, I wonder if we observed this. We would 00:43:23.940 --> 00:43:26.000 have been in the pre -mortal existence, those 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.820 of us who were born after this happened. I wonder 00:43:29.820 --> 00:43:32.300 how much the people in the spirit world would 00:43:32.300 --> 00:43:38.460 have maybe been able to be aware of this. I wonder 00:43:38.460 --> 00:43:42.679 how many really witnessed it. I'm sure there 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.380 were angels there. you know, who strengthened 00:43:45.380 --> 00:43:48.659 him. We know that. We know Boring Elder McConkey, 00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:52.380 he described the angel who came to strengthen 00:43:52.380 --> 00:43:57.659 him as Adam or Michael, who came to strengthen 00:43:57.659 --> 00:44:00.239 him in Gethsemane. And this is another reason 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:05.199 why the cross was worse than Gethsemane. In Gethsemane, 00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.260 at least he had an angel there to strengthen 00:44:08.260 --> 00:44:13.210 him on the cross. There was no one there, right? 00:44:13.210 --> 00:44:17.210 He was all completely forsaken utterly completely 00:44:17.210 --> 00:44:21.250 alone But I wonder where we were and I when I 00:44:21.250 --> 00:44:24.150 every time I read the words of Isaiah in Isaiah 00:44:24.150 --> 00:44:28.230 53 Which is also recorded in the Book of Mormon 00:44:28.230 --> 00:44:32.090 because I've been a die quoted from it I've been 00:44:32.090 --> 00:44:35.610 a die teaching King Noah He reads these verses 00:44:35.610 --> 00:44:39.889 and I think this is about Thursday and Friday, 00:44:40.610 --> 00:44:45.090 the events of Easter. He is despised and rejected 00:44:45.090 --> 00:44:50.150 of men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with 00:44:50.150 --> 00:44:56.309 grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from 00:44:56.309 --> 00:45:02.250 him. He was despised and we esteemed him not. 00:45:03.489 --> 00:45:07.570 Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our 00:45:07.570 --> 00:45:12.690 sorrows. Yet we did esteem him stricken smitten 00:45:12.690 --> 00:45:17.929 of God and afflicted But he was wounded for our 00:45:17.929 --> 00:45:21.630 transgressions. He was bruised for our inequities 00:45:21.630 --> 00:45:26.010 the chastisement of our peace was upon him and 00:45:26.010 --> 00:45:32.530 With his stripes we are healed This passage I 00:45:32.530 --> 00:45:37.199 often think Was I was I witnessing this was it 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:43.699 was it so bad that I turned my face around Because 00:45:43.699 --> 00:45:48.440 I couldn't observe it Was it was did I know did 00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:53.739 I have some idea? Before I was ever born About 00:45:53.739 --> 00:45:57.300 what Jesus had done for me I'd like to think 00:45:57.300 --> 00:46:01.880 that's that's possible that even before we were 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:04.900 born We not only knew the plan of redemption, 00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:09.039 but maybe we had witnessed it. Yeah. That maybe 00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:12.380 we had seen it. And maybe the reason we turn 00:46:12.380 --> 00:46:17.500 our faces from him, maybe Isaiah is saying every 00:46:17.500 --> 00:46:20.820 time we sin, we turn our faces from him. But 00:46:20.820 --> 00:46:23.699 maybe another reason someone can turn their face 00:46:23.699 --> 00:46:27.380 from observing these events in Gethsemane and 00:46:27.380 --> 00:46:30.820 on the cross is because it's just too hard to 00:46:30.820 --> 00:46:35.639 watch. Right. And I think that I think more of 00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:39.579 us maybe saw it and that we were aware of it. 00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:43.639 Those of us who live now, we could have maybe 00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:45.800 known more about those events in the pre -mortal 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:48.519 existence. And those in the spirit world could 00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:51.500 have maybe, some of them maybe could have observed 00:46:51.500 --> 00:46:55.940 it as well. Yeah, and as we talk about that, 00:46:55.980 --> 00:46:57.960 and we don't know for sure, I mean, you're getting 00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:01.500 into some really interesting concepts that I 00:47:01.500 --> 00:47:04.599 think that are important for us to consider. 00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:09.559 But I can see myself watching that, if that did 00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:11.920 happen, just based on the way my personality 00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:15.380 has developed in this life, I can see myself 00:47:15.380 --> 00:47:18.320 watching that and swearing, I promise you, you 00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.260 will never. have to pay for any of my sins. I'm 00:47:21.260 --> 00:47:23.019 going to make sure that none of that suffering 00:47:23.019 --> 00:47:25.539 is mine and you know and we see that you know 00:47:25.539 --> 00:47:28.519 I happen to I'm a little bit they call Peter 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:31.079 impetuous impestuous Peter whatever you know 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:32.920 I kind of tend to be that way too he wanted to 00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:34.840 go out and fix everything fight everything and 00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:36.840 blah blah blah and he just couldn't do it and 00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:38.840 you know I think that there there may have been 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:40.719 some of us that had that approach and here we 00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.719 come to life and here we uh immediately which 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:47.739 is part of the plan right the plan was that transgression 00:47:47.739 --> 00:47:52.059 would bring all of this possibility about. And 00:47:52.059 --> 00:47:56.320 so, you know, I can just see that then, but now 00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.340 what do I do with it? And I go back to the question, 00:47:58.460 --> 00:48:02.019 what do you do with this Jesus Christ? And Scott 00:48:02.019 --> 00:48:04.400 Durfee, what do I do with this Jesus Christ? 00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:06.760 It has to be a question that I personally need 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.639 to assess on a pretty consistent basis. You know, 00:48:09.659 --> 00:48:12.280 as part of the program of Alcoholics Anonymous, 00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.619 we have a 10th step, and that 10th step says, 00:48:14.619 --> 00:48:16.900 I continue to take personal inventory, and when 00:48:16.900 --> 00:48:19.860 I'm wrong, I properly admit it. As part of that 00:48:19.860 --> 00:48:22.639 10th step for me, that just means I need to take 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:25.199 personal inventory, too, with where is my relationship 00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:27.400 with Jesus Christ? And I need to do it on a pretty 00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.570 consistent basis, because when I don't, That's 00:48:30.570 --> 00:48:33.610 when I all of a sudden will wake up one day and 00:48:33.610 --> 00:48:36.590 ask myself, where am I and how the heck did I 00:48:36.590 --> 00:48:38.750 get here? Figuratively speaking, meaning that 00:48:38.750 --> 00:48:41.670 have I wandered away? Have I too turned my face 00:48:41.670 --> 00:48:44.349 from him? And getting back to, you know, as we 00:48:44.349 --> 00:48:47.050 turn our face from him or we turn away from him, 00:48:47.289 --> 00:48:50.650 we know that repentance means turning back to 00:48:50.650 --> 00:48:53.730 face him. And that's how we reengage. Well, maybe 00:48:53.730 --> 00:48:56.710 this is too hard of a question for you to answer 00:48:56.710 --> 00:49:01.719 right now, Scott. But, you know, For many many 00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:05.579 years I have been drawn back over and over again 00:49:05.579 --> 00:49:10.300 to this quote by President David O. McKay and 00:49:10.300 --> 00:49:14.280 I've often I've wondered is that is it really 00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:19.460 is that really true? Anyway, he said in conference 00:49:19.460 --> 00:49:26.340 of 1951 What you sincerely in your heart think 00:49:26.340 --> 00:49:31.949 of Christ will determine Who you are and will 00:49:31.949 --> 00:49:39.389 largely determine what your acts will be So I 00:49:39.389 --> 00:49:43.389 don't know Scott as you think about that going 00:49:43.389 --> 00:49:47.429 back to 20 something years ago when you were 00:49:47.429 --> 00:49:53.280 really struggling You know You went on a mission. 00:49:53.539 --> 00:49:57.000 I remember your mission. You were extremely successful 00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:01.079 as a missionary. I remember how proud your dad 00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:07.940 was in telling me your experiences and opportunities 00:50:07.940 --> 00:50:11.380 as a missionary in Seattle. And I remember all 00:50:11.380 --> 00:50:14.940 of that. But what happened after your mission, 00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:19.179 whatever you thought of Jesus? was not what you 00:50:19.179 --> 00:50:21.139 should have thought of Jesus. Because if this 00:50:21.139 --> 00:50:24.179 statement is true, what President McKay says 00:50:24.179 --> 00:50:28.500 is true. What you, in your heart of hearts, think 00:50:28.500 --> 00:50:34.619 of Jesus Christ will determine your acts. I don't 00:50:34.619 --> 00:50:36.820 know what do you think of that? Yeah, I've thought 00:50:36.820 --> 00:50:41.360 that I've read that and I've heard that and I 00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:44.400 know that there if you were to ask my friends 00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:46.519 in recovery if you were to ask my friends in 00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:49.300 my elders quorum if you were to ask my friends 00:50:49.300 --> 00:50:51.940 you might get a bunch of different answers, because 00:50:51.940 --> 00:50:55.960 I don't know that that I don't know. So there's 00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:59.780 a thing called absolute truth. And then there's 00:50:59.780 --> 00:51:02.300 things that are more relatively true, meaning 00:51:02.300 --> 00:51:04.320 that, you know, that could be more true for me 00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:13.949 than somebody else. But this Coming from a prophet 00:51:13.949 --> 00:51:16.110 of God who's saying this stuff right and he's 00:51:16.110 --> 00:51:18.889 saying that if my heart's right then my actions 00:51:18.889 --> 00:51:21.469 are gonna be right or how I feel about and think 00:51:21.469 --> 00:51:24.429 about Jesus Christ in my heart that will drive 00:51:24.429 --> 00:51:26.750 and influence my not just my actions but the 00:51:26.750 --> 00:51:29.170 way yeah my actions and the way I interact and 00:51:29.170 --> 00:51:32.730 treat people and respond to things that may not 00:51:32.730 --> 00:51:34.889 be so favorable and you know and I think that 00:51:34.889 --> 00:51:37.050 Dave this is one of those things that we are 00:51:37.050 --> 00:51:40.510 going to get into and potentially be able to 00:51:40.510 --> 00:51:42.789 answer that question for all of us as we we go 00:51:42.789 --> 00:51:45.489 through this process. But the answer for sure 00:51:45.489 --> 00:51:49.889 is, so I'm gonna make it about me. Was my heart 00:51:49.889 --> 00:51:52.409 right when I was making decisions that were wrong? 00:51:52.670 --> 00:51:57.469 The answer is obviously no. But at the same time, 00:51:58.090 --> 00:52:01.670 and I will say this, I think I will say this 00:52:01.670 --> 00:52:07.389 forever, I never doubted my testimony. I never 00:52:07.389 --> 00:52:10.050 doubted that Jesus Christ loved me. I never... 00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:12.860 That might not be 100 % true. I think there were 00:52:12.860 --> 00:52:16.619 times when I think that there was clouding of 00:52:16.619 --> 00:52:18.780 that understanding, right? I think that I was 00:52:18.780 --> 00:52:21.579 able to be clouded through the adversary because 00:52:21.579 --> 00:52:26.019 by my actions, I'm now inviting the spirit of 00:52:26.019 --> 00:52:28.340 the enemy to be a part of my life. And when that's 00:52:28.340 --> 00:52:31.639 there, those two spirits can't be together in 00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:33.880 the same place. And so I think that there's a 00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.760 real, a bunch of confusion that can come around 00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:40.699 those things. Another one of the real blessings 00:52:40.699 --> 00:52:42.739 that comes from the atonement is to clear those 00:52:42.739 --> 00:52:45.920 types of confusions, right? And so, yeah, I'm 00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:47.480 not gonna be able to answer it completely and 00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:50.199 entirely, but there's a lot of dynamics around 00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:54.460 that. Well, I think it's a pretty definitive 00:52:54.460 --> 00:52:58.019 statement that he makes, that whatever in your 00:52:58.019 --> 00:53:02.260 heart you think of Jesus will determine your 00:53:02.260 --> 00:53:07.900 actions. I know that that may not be true in 00:53:07.900 --> 00:53:12.039 every single case. But I know that when we sin, 00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:16.079 we're not thinking of Jesus. And we're not keeping 00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:19.400 the commandment given to us in Doctrine and Covenants, 00:53:19.500 --> 00:53:25.239 section six, in this powerful invitation or commandment. 00:53:25.460 --> 00:53:27.760 I think this is not just a suggestion or invitation. 00:53:28.940 --> 00:53:32.119 I think it's a commandment, and I... I don't 00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:34.280 think Jesus gives any commandments that we can't 00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.300 keep, right? First Nephi 3 .7. But listen to 00:53:37.300 --> 00:53:42.219 this. Look unto me in every thought. Doubt not, 00:53:42.219 --> 00:53:49.039 fear not. Doubt not, fear not. Wow. That's the 00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:52.920 commandment that so many of us break multiple 00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:56.780 times a day. Maybe I'm being too strong to call 00:53:56.780 --> 00:53:58.539 it a commandment. I don't know, but it sounds 00:53:58.539 --> 00:54:02.590 like an imperative to me. And I don't even know 00:54:02.590 --> 00:54:04.929 if that's possible to look unto Jesus in every 00:54:04.929 --> 00:54:08.730 thought And to go through a day without doubting 00:54:08.730 --> 00:54:11.389 and to go with it and go through a day without 00:54:11.389 --> 00:54:14.809 fearing But but he goes he goes just a little 00:54:14.809 --> 00:54:19.010 further here and in the very next verse he says 00:54:19.010 --> 00:54:23.610 Behold the wounds Behold the wounds which pierced 00:54:23.610 --> 00:54:28.510 my side And also the prints of the nails in my 00:54:28.510 --> 00:54:33.820 hands and feet He's saying every day we should 00:54:33.820 --> 00:54:36.800 be thinking about what happens this Friday, right? 00:54:37.340 --> 00:54:41.119 Every day every day right every day Should be 00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:44.219 in our mind. We should remember we make that 00:54:44.219 --> 00:54:45.980 we make that covenant every Sunday. We take a 00:54:45.980 --> 00:54:48.239 sacrament That's right that we will remember 00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:52.400 remember what? Remember the last week of Jesus' 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:55.059 life. Remember the last few days of his life. 00:54:55.659 --> 00:55:00.119 Remember his suffering. Remember him. And it's 00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.820 so interesting that he, again, focuses on the 00:55:02.820 --> 00:55:07.940 cross here. Behold the wounds. Behold the wounds 00:55:07.940 --> 00:55:10.099 which pierce my side and the prints of the nails 00:55:10.099 --> 00:55:15.670 in my hands and feet. Be faithful. Keep my commandments 00:55:15.670 --> 00:55:18.409 including this one. He just gave us and ye shall 00:55:18.409 --> 00:55:22.409 inherit the kingdom of heaven So I I think that's 00:55:22.409 --> 00:55:24.190 really powerful and something that we should 00:55:24.190 --> 00:55:28.010 all consider how we can Improve on is how can 00:55:28.010 --> 00:55:32.110 we think of Jesus more often? Well, that's what 00:55:32.110 --> 00:55:33.969 I guess that's one reason why I'm interested 00:55:33.969 --> 00:55:39.050 in doing this podcast Scott is is To help myself 00:55:39.050 --> 00:55:42.389 and to help others to be able to think of him 00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:48.619 more often and and to remember and to look into 00:55:48.619 --> 00:55:52.320 the wounds and to think about the atonement and 00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:58.139 especially his redemption through his blood that 00:55:58.139 --> 00:56:01.679 if all of us would think more about it would 00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:05.519 change not just ourselves but it would change 00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:08.079 our our family and it would change our world 00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:11.550 yeah it really would yeah That's just so true. 00:56:11.650 --> 00:56:15.449 You know, as we start digging into and diving 00:56:15.449 --> 00:56:20.849 into these sacred holy principles that provide 00:56:20.849 --> 00:56:27.230 hope, health, healing, and ultimately joy, I 00:56:27.230 --> 00:56:28.869 think it's really important. You know, you go 00:56:28.869 --> 00:56:32.889 through and we talk about all of the things that 00:56:32.889 --> 00:56:35.789 have happened in this holy week. And we talk 00:56:35.789 --> 00:56:38.030 about, you know, why do we need to know this? 00:56:38.150 --> 00:56:40.539 Every Sunday we have that reminder. and you just 00:56:40.539 --> 00:56:43.119 alluded to it. You know, every Sunday we add 00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:47.960 an altar partake of emblems, our sacred emblems, 00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:50.659 the body, the blood. And as we're doing so, we're 00:56:50.659 --> 00:56:53.900 remembering and we're covenanting and we're renewing 00:56:53.900 --> 00:56:57.579 covenants. You know, and we are commanded or 00:56:57.579 --> 00:57:02.179 we have covenanted to remember him. And I think 00:57:02.179 --> 00:57:05.059 about that, you know, and I know that, you know, 00:57:05.099 --> 00:57:08.300 we're getting close on time here and we'll kind 00:57:08.300 --> 00:57:09.690 of wrap up here in the next. few minutes, but 00:57:09.690 --> 00:57:12.489 I just want to say this. I think that, you know, 00:57:12.710 --> 00:57:15.469 as I partake of that sacrament, I really had 00:57:15.469 --> 00:57:19.050 a just a sweet tender experience with this this 00:57:19.050 --> 00:57:21.570 past Sunday. It's fast Sunday in our ward because 00:57:21.570 --> 00:57:24.730 of a few different things with state conference 00:57:24.730 --> 00:57:26.530 and various things like that. General conference. 00:57:26.610 --> 00:57:29.769 General conference. And we actually had state 00:57:29.769 --> 00:57:31.590 conference kind of messed us up in all of that 00:57:31.590 --> 00:57:35.219 as well. And so, you know, that That sweet experience 00:57:35.219 --> 00:57:38.000 as I'm at the altar and I'm thinking about the 00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:40.639 beginning of Holy Week, as I'm thinking about 00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:45.559 on this day, what did he do? And what's the significance? 00:57:45.780 --> 00:57:48.699 And I hear that, you know, that they will always 00:57:48.699 --> 00:57:52.380 remember him. You know, we have a couple of ancestors 00:57:52.380 --> 00:57:56.679 in common and a couple of them I can really remember. 00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.780 I can remember your dad, my grandpa very well. 00:58:00.889 --> 00:58:04.170 I know how he would react in certain situations. 00:58:04.630 --> 00:58:07.190 I know how he smelled when we were out working 00:58:07.190 --> 00:58:09.929 on the farm is what we called it. I know how 00:58:09.929 --> 00:58:12.670 he treated other people when I worked with him 00:58:12.670 --> 00:58:15.210 at the dry cleaners. I know all of these things 00:58:15.210 --> 00:58:17.409 about my grandpa, but why do I know these things? 00:58:17.809 --> 00:58:21.690 Because I spent time with him, right? How am 00:58:21.690 --> 00:58:24.070 I to remember somebody who I never even knew? 00:58:24.460 --> 00:58:29.179 How am I to recall events that are significant 00:58:29.179 --> 00:58:32.320 in my life and in the lives of those who I love 00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.820 if I'm not aware of them, if I'm not deeply familiar 00:58:35.820 --> 00:58:38.300 with them, if I don't understand the significance 00:58:38.300 --> 00:58:41.599 and the symbolism and the eternal progression 00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:47.360 that comes from them, I just think, and I'm gonna 00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:50.099 submit this pretty strongly, that what we're 00:58:50.099 --> 00:58:52.139 talking about today, there's not a more important 00:58:52.139 --> 00:58:55.219 topic. There's just nothing more important that 00:58:55.219 --> 00:58:59.099 we could be talking about than the atonement, 00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:02.480 the redemption of Jesus Christ, the atonement 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:04.500 and the redemption that comes through the atonement 00:59:04.500 --> 00:59:08.139 of Jesus Christ and how that not just fixes what 00:59:08.139 --> 00:59:11.139 we do wrong, but fixes what is wrong on each 00:59:11.139 --> 00:59:11.559 of our lives.