WEBVTT 00:00:00.300 --> 00:00:02.680 Hey there everybody welcome out to another episode 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:04.419 of redeemed through his blood. This is Scott 00:00:04.419 --> 00:00:10.019 Durfey has always joined by the lovely The lovely 00:00:10.019 --> 00:00:12.060 Debra Durfey. What's up, babe? Hello friends. 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:17.079 How are you deb? I'm great Here here we are the 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:20.420 Sun is shining Yeah, you love that. I do love 00:00:20.420 --> 00:00:22.219 it and I'm sorry I keep bringing this up and 00:00:22.219 --> 00:00:25.320 I bet you some of our listeners are in gloomy 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:28.460 winter some of you are already in sunny weather 00:00:28.460 --> 00:00:31.699 but If you don't, if we don't have sunny weather 00:00:31.699 --> 00:00:34.060 here, just energetically just know I'm reaching 00:00:34.060 --> 00:00:37.759 for your sunshine. I love the sunshine. Bless 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:39.619 the sunshine. That's what I always say. Well, 00:00:39.740 --> 00:00:42.500 we're getting some sunshine here on the Wasatch 00:00:42.500 --> 00:00:46.200 Front. It's 60 -something degrees today. February 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:49.479 1st part of March, rather. March 4th. And yeah, 00:00:49.700 --> 00:00:54.859 here we go. Well, Deb, for tonight's episode, 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:58.359 I think that we've come to an agreement, a conclusion. 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:00.979 We've talked a lot about this over the last several 00:01:00.979 --> 00:01:04.079 days and it just kind of made sense to talk about 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:08.060 it as part of our our process in the podcast 00:01:08.060 --> 00:01:10.459 here, you know, as we talk about putting on the 00:01:10.459 --> 00:01:13.560 Atonement of Jesus Christ and learning about 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:17.840 Him, knowing Him better, loving Him more, striving 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:20.459 harder to become like Him through alignment and 00:01:20.459 --> 00:01:24.099 all those other things. There's just a key that 00:01:24.099 --> 00:01:27.879 I believe, and I've been helped along the way 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:31.079 to this belief, but a key that I believe that 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:36.629 is so important when it comes to these principles. 00:01:37.430 --> 00:01:41.969 And that key is gratitude. And it's not even 00:01:41.969 --> 00:01:46.709 Thanksgiving. I know. I think it's perfect timing 00:01:46.709 --> 00:01:51.269 because we celebrate Thanksgiving in the season 00:01:51.269 --> 00:01:53.849 of gratitude and then we celebrate Christmas. 00:01:54.230 --> 00:01:56.269 And what a perfect time to celebrate gratitude 00:01:56.269 --> 00:02:00.269 in celebration of Easter. Right. Exactly. That's 00:02:00.269 --> 00:02:04.269 a great, I think it's a perfect time to to focus 00:02:04.269 --> 00:02:08.830 and think about gratitude. Yeah. Well, so we're 00:02:08.830 --> 00:02:10.169 going to talk about that. We're going to talk 00:02:10.169 --> 00:02:12.389 about the role of gratitude, what that means, 00:02:12.610 --> 00:02:15.610 how that how that can affect us. You know, this 00:02:15.610 --> 00:02:17.650 this is something that's one of the most actually 00:02:17.650 --> 00:02:20.069 actually one of the most talked talked about 00:02:20.069 --> 00:02:21.930 principles in the gospel, not just the gospel 00:02:21.930 --> 00:02:25.169 really, but in anything. Right? Is it just a 00:02:25.169 --> 00:02:27.490 really popular principle? You hear about the 00:02:27.490 --> 00:02:29.610 attitude of gratitude. I was just going to say 00:02:29.610 --> 00:02:31.750 that. That's funny. There's actually t -shirts 00:02:31.750 --> 00:02:34.229 that were made at one point that said the attitude 00:02:34.229 --> 00:02:36.909 of gratitude. There was a lady who was extremely 00:02:36.909 --> 00:02:42.099 popular. not podcasts, but a host on a radio 00:02:42.099 --> 00:02:45.919 show back in the 80s. And she was really all 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:49.300 about attitude of gratitude, syndicated thousands, 00:02:49.539 --> 00:02:52.099 millions really of people, you know, and all 00:02:52.099 --> 00:02:54.759 of that. So I don't think that we're going to 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:57.900 get a whole lot of pushback or I don't think 00:02:57.900 --> 00:03:00.939 we need to be in fear of successful contradiction 00:03:00.939 --> 00:03:04.139 that anybody that anybody is going to say, oh, 00:03:04.180 --> 00:03:06.639 gratitude is not important. I think that we can 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:09.659 pretty much universally accept that. That gratitude 00:03:09.659 --> 00:03:11.680 is just important, you know when we talk about 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.180 it as one of the God principles in the gospel 00:03:14.180 --> 00:03:17.939 etc But you know it also feels like it can be 00:03:17.939 --> 00:03:21.300 one of the hardest ones Yeah, right because sometimes 00:03:21.300 --> 00:03:25.000 life gets messy sometimes life gets painful Sometimes 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:27.639 life gets confusing sometimes life just throws 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.860 us a curveball and it's hard and we don't Understand 00:03:30.860 --> 00:03:34.460 where the curveball came from exactly Unfair 00:03:34.460 --> 00:03:37.960 and so you know what is grad gratitude actually 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.550 mean? Is it really about just positive thinking? 00:03:41.289 --> 00:03:43.310 Or is it something that's a little deeper than 00:03:43.310 --> 00:03:48.050 that? And what if gratitude is not pretending 00:03:48.050 --> 00:03:51.650 life is good? Yeah. What if when you go to the 00:03:51.650 --> 00:03:54.389 fleshy tables of your heart and you put your 00:03:54.389 --> 00:03:57.610 spiritual glasses on and maybe just try to see 00:03:57.610 --> 00:04:01.650 Jesus in the middle of it? In the middle of everything. 00:04:01.949 --> 00:04:07.469 Yeah. Or anything. Because honestly, when I be 00:04:07.469 --> 00:04:10.129 still and know that I am God is is still one 00:04:10.129 --> 00:04:12.849 of the most powerful scriptures for me because 00:04:12.849 --> 00:04:18.170 even in amongst chaos crazy turmoil tumultuous 00:04:18.170 --> 00:04:20.529 times which we have been warned about and we're 00:04:20.529 --> 00:04:23.209 seeing them turn on the news you guys I mean, 00:04:23.209 --> 00:04:28.170 it's bananas and Honestly, I have to turn off 00:04:28.170 --> 00:04:32.949 the noise go sit in my chair and open my scriptures 00:04:32.949 --> 00:04:35.129 and I read about the tumultuous times in the 00:04:35.129 --> 00:04:38.750 in the Old Testament right now. I mean, the messy 00:04:38.750 --> 00:04:41.629 lives they lived and the messy things that they 00:04:41.629 --> 00:04:44.189 functioned. But you know what? It's just in that 00:04:44.189 --> 00:04:48.910 moment that and they followed and they know Jesus. 00:04:49.769 --> 00:04:53.829 I mean, they find Jesus. And he walks with them. 00:04:53.930 --> 00:04:57.709 It's interesting because the youth theme for 00:04:57.709 --> 00:05:03.910 2026 is walk with me. And I think it's... It's 00:05:03.910 --> 00:05:08.889 been Such a sweet reminder for me. I I think 00:05:08.889 --> 00:05:11.689 I'm primary age and now I'm growing to youth 00:05:11.689 --> 00:05:13.670 again I'll probably go back to primary here soon 00:05:13.670 --> 00:05:15.709 because it seems to be your pattern. I'm not 00:05:15.709 --> 00:05:17.670 I'm never gonna grow up. Let's just get honest 00:05:17.670 --> 00:05:22.189 me and Peter Pan But it's it's one of those things 00:05:22.189 --> 00:05:24.430 that was a really great reminder for me In fact, 00:05:24.470 --> 00:05:26.370 they give us the young men and the young women 00:05:26.370 --> 00:05:28.449 They gave us all a pair of socks that says walk 00:05:28.449 --> 00:05:31.769 with me. Wow. Yeah And it's like, you know what? 00:05:31.990 --> 00:05:35.410 I think there's literal moments that we can push 00:05:35.410 --> 00:05:38.189 pause. I can push pause. I'm not taking anybody's 00:05:38.189 --> 00:05:41.209 inventory because I've seen it happen in the 00:05:41.209 --> 00:05:46.139 past. And now I'm like, I know you're here. I 00:05:46.139 --> 00:05:47.839 know you're present and I know you're walking 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:50.019 with me because I don't have to do this alone. 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.160 I was promised. I do not have to do this alone. 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.600 You said something that really hit me. You said, 00:05:55.660 --> 00:05:57.959 what if gratitude is not pretending that life 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:00.160 is good but learning to see Jesus in the middle 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:04.579 of it? I love that. I have a friend who is a 00:06:04.579 --> 00:06:07.740 member of Alcoholics Anonymous too. And we get 00:06:07.740 --> 00:06:10.300 to work steps together and various things like 00:06:10.300 --> 00:06:13.779 that. And the other day he was telling me that 00:06:13.779 --> 00:06:17.639 he had had this aha moment. And this aha moment 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:22.220 happened when he was in a counseling or a therapy 00:06:22.220 --> 00:06:24.980 session with his counselor. And he was talking 00:06:24.980 --> 00:06:28.500 about how things feel heavy sometimes and how 00:06:28.500 --> 00:06:30.699 things just he was just talking about the human 00:06:30.699 --> 00:06:33.980 experience and sometimes this human experience 00:06:33.980 --> 00:06:37.740 can Find itself in the extremities for us on 00:06:37.740 --> 00:06:39.639 occasion and I think that that's where he was 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:43.759 with this But but his therapist wisely I thought 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.819 this was so cool when he shared it with me that 00:06:46.819 --> 00:06:48.759 this had happened I was like I'm gonna do this 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:52.060 more because I had done it in the past But when 00:06:52.060 --> 00:06:54.199 he brought that up, I thought, wow, it's been 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:55.759 a minute since I've done this, and I'm going 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:59.139 to do it more often. But what he invited my friend 00:06:59.139 --> 00:07:01.519 to do, what this counselor invited my therapist, 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:04.220 invited my friend to do, is that when he was 00:07:04.220 --> 00:07:06.800 having these difficult times, when things felt 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:08.920 dark, when things felt heavy, when things felt 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:12.439 too big to overcome, et cetera, to invite Jesus 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:17.120 into it, and to literally see him in his mind's 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:21.129 eye. in the middle of all of that, and if not 00:07:21.129 --> 00:07:25.790 healing it, sitting with him in it. I love that. 00:07:25.949 --> 00:07:28.350 Sitting with him in it. Yeah, I mean. You know, 00:07:28.410 --> 00:07:30.209 there's been times that I, when I go to the, 00:07:30.329 --> 00:07:32.350 you know, when you have an attitude, try gratitude, 00:07:32.509 --> 00:07:34.610 and I've done this for, I mean, my mother was 00:07:34.610 --> 00:07:37.170 a mis -positive thinker. She still is. Yeah, 00:07:37.189 --> 00:07:40.860 I know. And so it was like. Okay, make a gratitude 00:07:40.860 --> 00:07:43.000 list. I'm grateful for toilet paper. I'm grateful 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:45.379 for, I mean, you know, the despite, you know, 00:07:45.459 --> 00:07:47.399 the spiteful things. Sure. But you know, when 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.540 I really go to the things that I really truly 00:07:49.540 --> 00:07:51.160 am grateful for, and I'm going to get emotional 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:54.540 even saying this, when I think of my husband, 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:57.579 when I think of my children, when I think of 00:07:57.579 --> 00:08:01.079 my grandchildren, and the gift that I have had 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.439 to raise them and to love them, my my siblings, 00:08:05.939 --> 00:08:10.870 my in -laws, my nieces and nephews. I mean it's 00:08:10.870 --> 00:08:14.290 just my gratitude like literally when I go to 00:08:14.290 --> 00:08:16.529 that place and it's all because of Jesus Christ 00:08:16.529 --> 00:08:19.149 that I have all those blessings. So when you 00:08:19.149 --> 00:08:20.610 think of those things that you just mentioned 00:08:20.610 --> 00:08:23.029 and you see Jesus in the middle of all of that, 00:08:23.189 --> 00:08:25.449 what does that do to your gratitude? It changes 00:08:25.449 --> 00:08:29.389 my heart, literally changes my heart. Because 00:08:29.389 --> 00:08:31.990 I start with an attitude. Believe me you guys, 00:08:32.149 --> 00:08:35.450 I have an attitude and I get it often and I get 00:08:35.450 --> 00:08:38.450 a little spicy and I bark. And sometimes I bite, 00:08:38.610 --> 00:08:40.809 not very hard, but I do bite. I've never been 00:08:40.809 --> 00:08:44.210 bitten for the record, but... Ask my kids. I 00:08:44.210 --> 00:08:48.929 bite them. You know, all joking aside, something 00:08:48.929 --> 00:08:51.070 I've been thinking about lately, and it's just 00:08:51.070 --> 00:08:53.330 really a simple idea, and it's not an idea that 00:08:53.330 --> 00:08:56.169 I came up with on my own. I was actually taught 00:08:56.169 --> 00:08:59.220 this by David. You know our original my original 00:08:59.220 --> 00:09:01.440 partner in the podcast who's now in Australia 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:06.860 serving on a mission He's having a wonderful 00:09:06.860 --> 00:09:09.580 experience there. It was his birthday yesterday 00:09:09.580 --> 00:09:11.779 We were texting back and forth. It's so cool 00:09:11.779 --> 00:09:14.679 that you can text all the way to Australia I 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:16.700 sound like my dad when I say that but it's just 00:09:16.700 --> 00:09:20.320 like I'm just blown away by the technology that 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.639 I can text him and then just across the world 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:25.039 seconds. Yeah Literally, and then just seconds 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:26.879 later to get a text right back from him. But 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.700 anyway, one of the things that he taught me as 00:09:29.700 --> 00:09:34.320 we were developing this podcast and and and everything 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:37.080 about it was that gratitude is really the beginning 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:40.299 of desire. And I know that he learned that from 00:09:40.299 --> 00:09:42.879 somebody. I think it was Ed Pinnaker at the MTC 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:45.039 and I don't know where Elder Pinnaker or whatever 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:47.940 learned it as well. But but so this isn't new. 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:51.139 But but it's but it's important. Gratitude is 00:09:51.139 --> 00:09:54.560 the beginning of desire. Desire do what? And 00:09:54.560 --> 00:09:57.820 that's the question you know great grateful sure 00:09:57.820 --> 00:10:01.659 desire for what though? You know and in my case 00:10:01.659 --> 00:10:05.500 it is it gives me my gratitude towards him and 00:10:05.500 --> 00:10:08.100 you said it right when you said what if gratitude 00:10:08.100 --> 00:10:10.679 is not pretending that life is good but learning 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:13.039 to see Jesus in the middle of everything in the 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:14.980 in the middle of whatever it is that we're going 00:10:14.980 --> 00:10:16.820 through and you know what sometimes even if we 00:10:16.820 --> 00:10:20.250 say the Savior Right because he saves us. Yeah, 00:10:20.269 --> 00:10:22.649 you know, I think or the Redeemer because he 00:10:22.649 --> 00:10:26.529 redeems us, right? Yeah, it's like because sometimes 00:10:26.529 --> 00:10:29.289 when we're in those sticky messy moments Yeah, 00:10:29.309 --> 00:10:31.809 it's like please save me or the healer because 00:10:31.809 --> 00:10:35.149 he heals this or the comfort me Please come for 00:10:35.149 --> 00:10:38.370 me. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, and all so many names and 00:10:38.370 --> 00:10:41.240 all of that All of that is administered to us 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:43.659 and administrated unto us by the power of the 00:10:43.659 --> 00:10:46.399 Holy Ghost. And how grateful we are for the Holy 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:49.139 Ghost. So gratitude is the beginning of desire. 00:10:49.580 --> 00:10:53.480 For me, the desire to be more aligned with His 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:57.240 will for me so that the administration of Christ's 00:10:57.240 --> 00:11:00.440 atonement can be more evident and prominent in 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:04.220 my life as is evidenced by the spirit of the 00:11:04.220 --> 00:11:06.590 Holy Ghost being there with me. And can I just 00:11:06.590 --> 00:11:09.110 say this too? Because I always thought that I 00:11:09.110 --> 00:11:13.549 had to be worthy. Like, I had to be at a certain 00:11:13.549 --> 00:11:16.149 place in my life in order to access the Holy 00:11:16.149 --> 00:11:20.629 Ghost or to access God and His powers. And, you 00:11:20.629 --> 00:11:24.889 know, it was in the midst of my messy life and 00:11:24.889 --> 00:11:27.509 choices I had made that had got me in deep despair 00:11:27.509 --> 00:11:30.970 that is where I felt Him sometimes the most. 00:11:31.990 --> 00:11:35.500 And He comes to where we are. And we've talked 00:11:35.500 --> 00:11:38.120 about this in previous podcasts. He's not afraid 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:42.820 to get his hands dirty and messy. You think about 00:11:42.820 --> 00:11:46.960 when he came, when he ministered here, he was 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.039 among the sinners. He was among the adulterers. 00:11:50.460 --> 00:11:54.039 He was among the people that were sick and afflicted. 00:11:54.700 --> 00:11:56.779 You know, he didn't hang out in churches and 00:11:56.779 --> 00:11:58.779 I mean, I guess he was a synagogue is a little 00:11:58.779 --> 00:12:00.879 bit, but yeah, but but he was he spent his time 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.679 in the margins of our society in the margins. 00:12:03.860 --> 00:12:06.080 Those who had been marginalized, that's where 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:09.620 Jesus found himself most. Yeah. Yeah. And that's 00:12:09.620 --> 00:12:13.460 where I am in the marginalized. We're all marginalized 00:12:13.460 --> 00:12:15.879 to a degree from time to time. Yeah. We all feel 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.279 that way. We all feel a little bit on the outside 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:21.679 of something somehow somewhere that is just part 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:25.970 of being fallen. I love a story. This story kind 00:12:25.970 --> 00:12:28.529 of reminds me of sometimes where I find myself 00:12:28.529 --> 00:12:32.850 and this story is found in Luke chapter 17. verse 00:12:32.850 --> 00:12:36.429 11 through, I think, 19 would I read. And I was 00:12:36.429 --> 00:12:39.330 going to read this from the NSRV just to give 00:12:39.330 --> 00:12:42.210 it a little more clarity, a different version 00:12:42.210 --> 00:12:43.929 of the Bible. But I think that I'm going to stick 00:12:43.929 --> 00:12:45.850 with the King James version on this one, Doug, 00:12:45.909 --> 00:12:48.330 because it just rings a little more familiar 00:12:48.330 --> 00:12:52.190 that way. And it came to pass that as he went 00:12:52.190 --> 00:12:54.570 to Jerusalem and he passed through the midst 00:12:54.570 --> 00:12:57.789 of Samaria and Galilee. And as he entered into 00:12:57.789 --> 00:13:01.190 a certain village, there met him 10 men that 00:13:01.190 --> 00:13:04.179 were lepers. which stood afar off. And they lifted 00:13:04.179 --> 00:13:06.659 up their voices and said, Jesus, Master, have 00:13:06.659 --> 00:13:10.480 mercy on us. And when he saw them, he said unto 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:13.299 them, Go shoot them yourselves unto the priests. 00:13:13.460 --> 00:13:16.559 And it came to pass that as they went, they were 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.860 cleansed. As they went, they were cleansed. And 00:13:20.860 --> 00:13:24.289 one of them, now there were ten. in the beginning. 00:13:24.909 --> 00:13:27.389 And one of them, when he saw that he was healed, 00:13:27.649 --> 00:13:30.330 turned back and with a loud voice glorified God 00:13:30.330 --> 00:13:32.570 and he fell down on his face at his feet and 00:13:32.570 --> 00:13:36.309 giving him thanks and he was a Samaritan. There's 00:13:36.309 --> 00:13:39.350 significance in that. He was a Samaritan. He 00:13:39.350 --> 00:13:42.450 was, as you just mentioned, one of those who 00:13:42.450 --> 00:13:45.570 had been marginalized, Deb. Right? But because 00:13:45.570 --> 00:13:48.450 he had been healed and Jesus healed him, two 00:13:48.450 --> 00:13:50.509 and the other nine I don't know you know they 00:13:50.509 --> 00:13:52.809 weren't Samaritans it makes that differentiation 00:13:52.809 --> 00:13:56.230 early on and then Jesus answering in verse 17 00:13:56.230 --> 00:14:00.629 said where they're not ten cleansed but where 00:14:00.629 --> 00:14:05.529 are the nine there are not found that are returned 00:14:05.529 --> 00:14:08.950 to give glory to God save this stranger and he 00:14:08.950 --> 00:14:11.850 said unto him arise and go thy way this is the 00:14:11.850 --> 00:14:16.629 best part thy faith have made thee whole we just 00:14:17.129 --> 00:14:20.389 Have talked about faith too. Yeah, faith of the 00:14:20.389 --> 00:14:25.629 mustard seed Small faith. Yeah faith by faith 00:14:25.629 --> 00:14:27.970 have made the whole and one of the things that 00:14:27.970 --> 00:14:29.909 we talked about Dev when we were talking about 00:14:29.909 --> 00:14:32.070 faith is faith doesn't it's not just a decision 00:14:32.070 --> 00:14:34.840 We make it's a relationship. We establish Yeah. 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:37.399 And through that relationship that's established, 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:42.440 then that faith turns into hope. Right. And from 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:45.000 so, you know, I mean, all of these things really 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:48.620 play in together in an important ways. But that's 00:14:48.620 --> 00:14:50.980 an important for me. That's an important story. 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:53.559 Yeah. And I just one more thing on faith because 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:56.480 I've been reading my patriarchal blessing multiple 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:01.070 times lately. And it says in there often. I mean, 00:15:01.129 --> 00:15:04.509 more times than not, according to your faith. 00:15:04.850 --> 00:15:06.669 And your patriarchal blessing, I gotcha. Yes, 00:15:06.690 --> 00:15:08.909 according to your faith. Okay. And we hear that 00:15:08.909 --> 00:15:11.529 a lot. Sure. You know, when we receive blessings, 00:15:12.250 --> 00:15:14.970 even, you know, according to your faith, you 00:15:14.970 --> 00:15:16.889 will receive these blessings. According to your 00:15:16.889 --> 00:15:21.870 faith. Faith in what? Back to Jesus Christ. Faith 00:15:21.870 --> 00:15:25.350 in whom? Yes, faith in whom. You know, our redeemer, 00:15:25.850 --> 00:15:29.500 our comforter, our healer. Yeah, all about him. 00:15:29.940 --> 00:15:32.700 Right. Yeah. Well, so going back to the story, 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:35.840 the miracle happened for all 10 of them, but 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:40.000 only one actually recognized it. So, you know, 00:15:40.019 --> 00:15:42.820 sometimes gratitude is not just about receiving 00:15:42.820 --> 00:15:45.139 blessings. Yeah. The other nine received the 00:15:45.139 --> 00:15:48.519 same blessing. Yeah. Apparently, if there was 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:50.679 gratitude there, it was expressed differently. 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:56.340 And I think that the writers of the Luke, right? 00:15:57.220 --> 00:15:59.919 The physician Luke needed this included in his 00:15:59.919 --> 00:16:03.139 account of his experiences with the Savior to 00:16:03.139 --> 00:16:06.320 teach a lesson to help us understand that gratitude 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.659 is not just about receiving blessings, it's about 00:16:08.659 --> 00:16:15.399 recognizing blessings. When he did come back 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.299 and he's he to say thank you the Samaritan. Yeah, 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.039 the Samaritan came back and said thank you The 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:24.259 Lord did say your faith has made you whole. Yeah, 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:27.220 so it would be interesting if you could go into 00:16:27.220 --> 00:16:30.639 those 10 lepers lives and say How was your life 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:33.620 whole and how was your life different? Oh, wow. 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:36.240 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, what does that what 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:39.200 does that even look like? Did you get leprosy 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:43.850 again? Did you get? was your life full of the 00:16:43.850 --> 00:16:46.909 gospel of Jesus Christ? Did you have an abundance 00:16:46.909 --> 00:16:50.269 of joy and happiness going forth, or were you 00:16:50.269 --> 00:16:53.789 just healed? Because what does whole mean? Your 00:16:53.789 --> 00:16:56.750 faith has made the whole. That's an interesting 00:16:56.750 --> 00:16:58.230 statement. I've never thought of that before. 00:16:59.450 --> 00:17:03.399 Well, I think that oftentimes, Deb, when we're 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:05.740 talking about this, we kind of miss gratitude 00:17:05.740 --> 00:17:07.460 because we're looking for something different. 00:17:08.099 --> 00:17:10.619 You know, maybe we're looking for huge miracles. 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:13.539 Maybe we're looking for dramatic answers, you 00:17:13.539 --> 00:17:16.440 know, while God's instead giving us these little 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:19.960 quiet mercies or daily grace or sustaining strength. 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:23.460 I call those tender mercies. Yeah, I call them 00:17:23.460 --> 00:17:26.740 instruments of grace. And it takes it takes spiritual 00:17:26.740 --> 00:17:29.799 glasses. I say, put your spiritual glasses on 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:33.079 or use your spiritual eyes to see the miracles 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:36.940 in your life because they happen. Well, we know, 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:40.059 I think Deb, that gratitude changes the way we 00:17:40.059 --> 00:17:43.720 feel spiritually, right? Absolutely. So why do 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:48.140 you think that, why does it sometimes gratitude 00:17:48.140 --> 00:17:51.319 that is? Why does it sometimes seem to soften 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:55.980 our hearts so much? I think it's interesting 00:17:55.980 --> 00:17:58.700 that this just came to me, but I was listening 00:17:58.700 --> 00:18:00.839 to a podcast earlier about right brain, left 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:04.039 brain and how one side is more analytical and 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:06.519 the other one's more feeling and knowing. And 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:09.599 I think oftentimes in order to balance that brain 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:15.160 and our heart is to really have that spiritual 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:20.079 connection in this physical realm. You know what 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:23.559 I mean? It's it's like we're here having this 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:26.319 mortal physical and the physical part can get 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:29.880 really Distracting and I know this is why we 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:32.720 we fast is to weaken the physical body so that 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:36.240 the spirit can be strengthened But I think with 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:40.279 gratitude it invites the spirit I think when 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:43.420 and there's I've done this a couple of times 00:18:43.420 --> 00:18:46.619 well more than a couple a handful of times But 00:18:46.619 --> 00:18:50.519 I have had an entire prayer of gratitude. Father, 00:18:50.700 --> 00:18:54.819 I am so grateful. I love that. And it really 00:18:54.819 --> 00:18:59.910 softens me. And it changes me because. You know, 00:18:59.950 --> 00:19:02.390 when I think about some of the things that are 00:19:02.390 --> 00:19:04.470 not going right in my life or things that I'm 00:19:04.470 --> 00:19:07.490 worried about in my life right now or things 00:19:07.490 --> 00:19:09.849 that I'm worried about my children or my grandchildren's 00:19:09.849 --> 00:19:13.670 life right now, when I go to gratitude, it literally 00:19:13.670 --> 00:19:17.329 changes my heart. Why? Because I'm exercising 00:19:17.329 --> 00:19:20.990 that spiritual muscle, my faith muscle, that 00:19:20.990 --> 00:19:25.609 Jesus Christ paid for this. That Jesus Christ 00:19:25.609 --> 00:19:30.299 is the reason why I have my very breath. So again, 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:33.940 why does gratitude seem to soften our hearts 00:19:33.940 --> 00:19:36.599 so much? I really think about that. This is something 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:40.180 that in recovery circles that is really prominent 00:19:40.180 --> 00:19:44.220 and prevalent and important. When I, for example, 00:19:44.380 --> 00:19:46.779 used to call my sponsor and all the world was 00:19:46.779 --> 00:19:49.740 coming down around me, and it could be something 00:19:49.740 --> 00:19:51.779 simple and it could be something legitimately 00:19:51.779 --> 00:19:56.230 big. But it was probably more common than not 00:19:56.230 --> 00:19:58.509 that the first thing that my sponsor would have 00:19:58.509 --> 00:20:03.109 me do when I was in that realm of despair and 00:20:03.109 --> 00:20:05.009 everything's coming down around me was to write 00:20:05.009 --> 00:20:08.809 a gratitude list. And sometimes that gratitude 00:20:08.809 --> 00:20:10.549 list looked like the one that you talked about 00:20:10.549 --> 00:20:12.690 a minute ago. I'm just thankful for the basics 00:20:12.690 --> 00:20:15.809 of life sometimes. Thankful for things. Initially 00:20:15.809 --> 00:20:18.349 we start thinking about thankful for things. 00:20:18.549 --> 00:20:21.980 I'm thankful for... Whatever just thinks and 00:20:21.980 --> 00:20:24.299 I hesitate to even start putting things out there 00:20:24.299 --> 00:20:27.519 because I don't want to to create in some people's 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:29.660 minds You know what it is for them that's different, 00:20:29.660 --> 00:20:34.259 but but but you know What if we remembered that 00:20:34.259 --> 00:20:37.940 gratitude actually dissolves resentment? Yeah. 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:39.960 It couldn't even change our perspective. This 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:42.500 is one of the reasons that we use this in recovery. 00:20:42.900 --> 00:20:44.940 Right. So often, you know, the number one offender 00:20:44.940 --> 00:20:48.039 in recovery is resentment. Right. It is. And 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:52.160 when I have a sponsor, he called me now and they're 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.099 dealing with resentment. It's not necessarily 00:20:54.099 --> 00:20:55.980 always and it's not necessarily the first thing, 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:58.599 but it's not uncommon. And in fact, it's pretty 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:00.680 prominent, pretty prevalent that we actually 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:03.079 will focus on, okay, what are we grateful for? 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:05.099 Well, I don't think recovering alcoholics have 00:21:05.099 --> 00:21:07.789 the only, you know, They don't have the corner 00:21:07.789 --> 00:21:09.430 on this. No, they don't have the corner on this. 00:21:09.569 --> 00:21:11.410 I think the human race gets resentful. You think 00:21:11.410 --> 00:21:16.049 if we're falling? I think it's big from your 00:21:16.049 --> 00:21:18.869 perspective, but a lot of us get resentful. A 00:21:18.869 --> 00:21:22.450 lot of us need our perspectives changed. I always 00:21:22.450 --> 00:21:28.130 say when you're having a disagreement, I like 00:21:28.130 --> 00:21:31.970 to push pause. and put on the glasses of the 00:21:31.970 --> 00:21:35.589 other person and ask, what are you seeing? What 00:21:35.589 --> 00:21:37.529 is hurting you? What is harming you? What is 00:21:37.529 --> 00:21:40.150 upsetting you? So that I can see from different 00:21:40.150 --> 00:21:43.309 eyes. And I think like you said, gratitude changes 00:21:43.309 --> 00:21:46.730 that perspective. It's like, yeah, if you let 00:21:46.730 --> 00:21:49.589 it, your faith can make you whole. Your gratitude 00:21:49.589 --> 00:21:51.690 can change your heart and your perspective and 00:21:51.690 --> 00:21:54.750 your resentment. And it also can reconnect us 00:21:54.750 --> 00:21:59.170 to our Heavenly Father. I mean which is ultimately 00:21:59.170 --> 00:22:01.509 the most important because you know what love 00:22:01.509 --> 00:22:03.430 the Lord thy God with all thy heart mind mind 00:22:03.430 --> 00:22:05.809 and strength and the second is like unto it love 00:22:05.809 --> 00:22:09.589 thy neighbor as thyself right and that is literally 00:22:09.589 --> 00:22:16.049 the amen yeah exactly the end yeah the end I 00:22:16.049 --> 00:22:19.289 shouldn't say that yeah well yeah well because 00:22:19.289 --> 00:22:24.809 also in Um, Mosiah to I love this. I love this. 00:22:24.809 --> 00:22:30.150 Mosiah to 20 and 21 King Benjamin. Okay. So in 00:22:30.150 --> 00:22:33.650 set and Mosiah to 20 and 21, it says, I say unto 00:22:33.650 --> 00:22:36.769 you, my brethren, that if you should render all 00:22:36.769 --> 00:22:39.630 the things and praise, which your whole soul 00:22:39.630 --> 00:22:43.109 has power to possess to that God who has created 00:22:43.109 --> 00:22:47.930 you. and has kept you and preserved you and has 00:22:47.930 --> 00:22:51.430 caused that ye should rejoice and has granted 00:22:51.430 --> 00:22:55.150 that ye should live in peace one with another." 00:22:55.150 --> 00:23:00.470 That's 20. 21 says, I say unto you that if ye 00:23:00.470 --> 00:23:04.509 should serve him who has created you from the 00:23:04.509 --> 00:23:09.170 beginning and is preserving you from day to day 00:23:09.170 --> 00:23:15.390 by lending you breath. Guys we are dependent 00:23:15.390 --> 00:23:18.849 on our own breath. So when we go to gratitude 00:23:18.849 --> 00:23:21.529 Let me finish this then I'm a go there when we 00:23:21.529 --> 00:23:25.529 that ye may live and move and do according to 00:23:25.529 --> 00:23:29.859 your own will And even supporting you from one 00:23:29.859 --> 00:23:33.920 moment to another, I say if ye should serve him 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:39.660 with all your whole soul, yet ye would be unprofitable 00:23:39.660 --> 00:23:42.960 servants. We have absolutely nothing, not even 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:46.180 our own breath. We have our will to align with 00:23:46.180 --> 00:23:48.519 his and he can take our breath at any given time. 00:23:49.420 --> 00:23:52.200 And I think that's one of the things that I need 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:54.500 to add to my gratitude is I am grateful for my 00:23:54.500 --> 00:23:59.579 breath. I'm a yogi girl and I I remember hearing 00:23:59.579 --> 00:24:04.640 that the breath is Yahweh meaning and using it 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:08.480 as a breath of I hope that comes across Anyways, 00:24:08.660 --> 00:24:11.779 and there's often times when I'm on my yoga mat 00:24:11.779 --> 00:24:14.779 and I think of being on Mother Earth and then 00:24:14.779 --> 00:24:18.019 I think of God connecting me and Yahweh from 00:24:18.019 --> 00:24:21.079 my heart space. I know that sounds cheesy to 00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:23.980 so many people, but it works for me. And it is 00:24:23.980 --> 00:24:27.079 literally, thank you God for my breath. Thank 00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:32.140 you for my very breath. I think that's such a 00:24:32.140 --> 00:24:36.460 critical piece. I just love that. I think that 00:24:36.460 --> 00:24:38.599 there's a lot of things that come to us when 00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:41.460 we recognize literally everything. that we have 00:24:41.460 --> 00:24:44.099 and really even our own will is given to us, 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.920 right? I mean, we own it now, but it was given 00:24:46.920 --> 00:24:49.740 to us. But but when we recognize that literally 00:24:49.740 --> 00:24:52.119 everything comes from God, that there's a couple 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:54.319 of things that happen to us that can enhance 00:24:54.319 --> 00:24:56.460 our lives. One of the things is our humility 00:24:56.460 --> 00:24:59.119 increases. We recognize that it's on him, not 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:02.420 us. We're borrowing breath, right? And here we 00:25:02.420 --> 00:25:06.920 begin to move from gratitude to desire, right? 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:10.480 Because now our love for him is making us or 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:14.359 requiring us even that we become more like him, 00:25:14.539 --> 00:25:19.720 right? Because we love from adoration to emulation, 00:25:20.299 --> 00:25:24.519 Elder Maxwell, remember. It also, you know, one 00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:27.000 of the problems that I think that, and you and 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:28.539 I have talked about this, we've talked about 00:25:28.539 --> 00:25:30.640 it recently. One of the big things that we, one 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.099 of the big problems I think that we deal with 00:25:33.099 --> 00:25:36.240 in our society is this thing called entitlement. 00:25:39.379 --> 00:25:43.299 Be a manager. You'll see it. You'll know what 00:25:43.299 --> 00:25:47.119 I mean. If any of you have managed people, others. 00:25:48.940 --> 00:25:54.180 It's a real thing. Well, not just that, but let's 00:25:54.180 --> 00:25:56.000 call it spade of spade. If any of you have children. 00:25:56.670 --> 00:26:00.670 Yeah, or friends or I know or people that you 00:26:00.670 --> 00:26:02.970 associate with or if you have a calling in the 00:26:02.970 --> 00:26:07.109 church or if you have Entitlement is is is a 00:26:07.109 --> 00:26:10.130 big deal right so but it decreases but more importantly 00:26:10.130 --> 00:26:13.529 gratitude grows when we recognize that literally 00:26:13.529 --> 00:26:16.430 everything comes from God our gratitude grows. 00:26:16.650 --> 00:26:19.710 When our gratitude grows, I go back to my desire 00:26:19.710 --> 00:26:22.650 to be like Him, to follow Him, to align with 00:26:22.650 --> 00:26:24.910 His will for me so I can put His Atonement on 00:26:24.910 --> 00:26:27.589 in my life, in all parts of my life, increases. 00:26:29.029 --> 00:26:32.549 Increases exponentially. So important for me 00:26:32.549 --> 00:26:35.089 to do that. You know, most of the time we talk 00:26:35.089 --> 00:26:37.849 about, again, and I just talked about this, mentioned 00:26:37.849 --> 00:26:39.450 this, but most of the time when we talk about 00:26:39.450 --> 00:26:42.309 gratitude, we're focusing on things. I'm thankful 00:26:42.309 --> 00:26:45.359 for my job. I'm grateful for my family. I'm grateful 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.140 for my home. I'm grateful for the area that I 00:26:48.140 --> 00:26:50.599 live in. I'm grateful for my and on and on it 00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:53.099 goes, which is fine. I'm grateful for my even 00:26:53.099 --> 00:26:58.000 for my sobriety, which is a big deal. But the 00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:02.299 gospel takes it deeper, Dub. A relationship with 00:27:02.299 --> 00:27:04.880 Jesus Christ, a relationship with deity takes 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.440 us so much deeper than that. Real gratitude eventually 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:11.700 leads us to the giver of the gift. Yeah. Real 00:27:11.700 --> 00:27:15.960 gratitude eventually leads us to the giver of 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:22.059 all gifts. If I turn to one of the couple of 00:27:22.059 --> 00:27:23.799 scriptures that I really love here, and this 00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:27.680 one's in 2 Corinthians chapter 9 verse 15. Thanks 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:32.259 be unto God for his unspeakable gift. Thanks 00:27:32.259 --> 00:27:35.960 be unto God for his unspeakable. gift. What's 00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:38.559 that unspeakable gift? Oh, Jesus Christ, of course. 00:27:39.140 --> 00:27:42.000 And everything that comes from and through. And 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.599 the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Exactly. Right. 00:27:45.140 --> 00:27:50.359 That is the unspeakable gift. The more I learn 00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:52.119 about the Atonement of Jesus Christ, the more 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:55.940 I realize I don't know anything. And I have studied 00:27:55.940 --> 00:27:59.599 it for years, and especially teaching on it. 00:27:59.869 --> 00:28:02.690 the divine gift of forgiveness is all about the 00:28:02.690 --> 00:28:06.990 atonement of Jesus Christ. And that's why I love 00:28:06.990 --> 00:28:10.210 the scripture because it talks about the unspeakable 00:28:10.210 --> 00:28:13.450 gift because it's not something that words can 00:28:13.450 --> 00:28:20.029 even explain. It's definitely a God. Given gift 00:28:20.029 --> 00:28:23.250 the word to the unspeakable gift the word to 00:28:23.250 --> 00:28:27.630 describe that is ineffable It just has no way 00:28:27.630 --> 00:28:30.930 words cannot describe. No, no words cannot describe 00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:32.849 and the more you study it the more you'll learn 00:28:32.849 --> 00:28:37.549 that as well. I Yeah Right along with that is 00:28:37.549 --> 00:28:39.430 another one of my favorites and this is in doctrine 00:28:39.430 --> 00:28:43.190 and Covenants section 88 verse 33 for what does 00:28:43.190 --> 00:28:46.529 the prophet a man if gift is bestowed upon him 00:28:46.829 --> 00:28:50.069 And he received not the gift. Let's talk about 00:28:50.069 --> 00:28:53.589 that for a second. What gift are we talking about 00:28:53.589 --> 00:28:56.130 here? We're obviously talking about the gift 00:28:56.130 --> 00:28:59.430 of the promise. Exactly. And all that comes with 00:28:59.430 --> 00:29:01.549 it, all that comes with his atonement to us, 00:29:01.970 --> 00:29:04.609 right? So what does a prophet a man if the gift 00:29:04.609 --> 00:29:06.769 is bestowed upon him and he doesn't receive the 00:29:06.769 --> 00:29:10.589 gift? That's interesting. We have to receive. 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.359 It just doesn't happen. A giver and a receiver. 00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.240 Exactly. And maybe we should talk about what 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.700 it really looks like to receive this gift in 00:29:19.700 --> 00:29:22.019 an upcoming podcast because that's really important. 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.759 So here's the whole thing again, DNC 8833. For 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:27.960 what does the Prophet a man, if a gift is stowed 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:30.880 upon him and he receiveth not the gift? Behold, 00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:33.720 he rejoices not in that which is given unto him. 00:29:34.660 --> 00:29:38.539 Neither rejoices in him who is the giver. of 00:29:38.539 --> 00:29:41.640 the gift. You know, as a grandma, one of my favorite 00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:44.279 things to do is give birthday gifts. Yeah, I 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:46.160 know. And I just went and purchased, you know, 00:29:46.259 --> 00:29:48.380 another birthday gift for one of my grandmothers. 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.839 For little Molly. And I just, yes, one of the 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:56.059 things I thought about was, what if I presented 00:29:56.059 --> 00:30:00.359 that gift and the receiver walked away from it, 00:30:00.539 --> 00:30:02.980 turned their back on me and walked away, said, 00:30:03.059 --> 00:30:05.539 I don't want this gift. I think about that often, 00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:08.859 and I know that's the mortal side of it and the 00:30:08.859 --> 00:30:11.779 physical side of it, but I think about that often. 00:30:11.940 --> 00:30:14.920 Am I walking away from that gift? And am I walking 00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:18.819 away from that giver? Because Christ himself 00:30:18.819 --> 00:30:26.779 gave the unspeakable gift. And do I receive that 00:30:26.779 --> 00:30:30.700 gift? And if so, how do I receive that gift? 00:30:31.069 --> 00:30:33.750 I love that. Yeah. Such a great reminder. Well, 00:30:33.769 --> 00:30:36.049 and it actually reminds us too that the giver 00:30:36.049 --> 00:30:38.750 of the gift is actually the gift itself. 100 00:30:38.750 --> 00:30:42.789 percent. Yes. Right. It's only through. Right. 00:30:43.930 --> 00:30:46.190 Right. Right. Right. The greatest blessing is 00:30:46.190 --> 00:30:50.089 Jesus Christ himself. It's him. Yeah. It's literally 00:30:50.089 --> 00:30:52.390 the giver of the gift. When gratitude shifts 00:30:52.390 --> 00:30:56.069 from what we've received to who he is, something 00:30:56.069 --> 00:30:58.289 kind of begins to change in us at that point. 00:30:58.509 --> 00:31:03.109 Yeah. Yeah. You know, I remember a moment just 00:31:03.109 --> 00:31:06.109 not that long ago. I was thinking about the Savior. 00:31:06.589 --> 00:31:10.430 I was thinking about my own life. Inevitably, 00:31:10.789 --> 00:31:13.670 it still comes up sometimes, and this was a while 00:31:13.670 --> 00:31:16.089 ago, but it still comes up sometimes when inevitably 00:31:16.089 --> 00:31:18.609 I begin to think about mistakes that I've made, 00:31:18.950 --> 00:31:22.559 things that I regret. places where I have fallen 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.460 short, offenses that I have created in other 00:31:25.460 --> 00:31:27.339 people's life. And then I realized something. 00:31:27.819 --> 00:31:30.839 Jesus Christ knew every one of those moments 00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:35.180 before I ever lived them, babe. He knew the exact 00:31:35.180 --> 00:31:38.759 weakness. He knew the exact mistake. He knew 00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.599 the exact regret. He knew the exact harm. He 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:43.400 knew the effect that it would have on others 00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.319 pain, the grief, the sorrow, the broken. He knew 00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:49.460 all of that before I did it. Yes. Before I was 00:31:49.460 --> 00:31:53.430 in it. Yep. But you know, he still chose Gethsemane. 00:31:53.630 --> 00:31:56.089 Yep. And he would do it again. He still drops 00:31:56.089 --> 00:31:59.950 of blood. He still chose the cross. You know, 00:32:00.049 --> 00:32:03.390 what surprised me about that moment. And again, 00:32:03.450 --> 00:32:05.529 this was a few years ago and this hasn't been 00:32:05.529 --> 00:32:09.130 all it's been pretty much that way this way since 00:32:09.130 --> 00:32:12.769 then. But prior to then that those feelings would 00:32:12.769 --> 00:32:16.630 come as more of an indictment, more of a condemnation 00:32:16.630 --> 00:32:20.769 towards me and more of a separation or or a proof 00:32:20.769 --> 00:32:24.710 that I was not worthy. Because sometimes I think 00:32:24.710 --> 00:32:27.430 that we fell that way. And I got. He was busy. 00:32:27.809 --> 00:32:29.930 Yeah, exactly. So but what surprised me in that 00:32:29.930 --> 00:32:31.990 moment when I was thinking this through and I 00:32:31.990 --> 00:32:36.250 remember it like it was very recent, but I didn't 00:32:36.250 --> 00:32:40.750 feel condemnation. I felt gratitude. There it 00:32:40.750 --> 00:32:44.269 is. And I will never forget that. You know, I 00:32:44.269 --> 00:32:47.490 realized something simple, but powerful, something 00:32:47.490 --> 00:32:50.920 I'd been taught. And again, that is the gratitude 00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.759 is the beginning of desire because in that moment 00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.380 when I felt that gratitude, I have never and 00:32:57.380 --> 00:32:59.500 when I still feel this way, when I still focus 00:32:59.500 --> 00:33:03.099 on the gratitude I have for him, the giver of 00:33:03.099 --> 00:33:10.460 all gifts. When I focus on that, when I focus 00:33:10.460 --> 00:33:17.720 on that, I realize the gift that he gave me is 00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:19.950 him. The great gift that Heavenly Father gave 00:33:19.950 --> 00:33:22.170 me is Jesus. You said it a little while ago. 00:33:22.289 --> 00:33:25.670 He's my savior. He's my redeemer. He's my healer. 00:33:25.910 --> 00:33:30.289 He healed all of that. He healed it in eternity. 00:33:31.410 --> 00:33:36.299 And to know that. It gives me such a deep desire. 00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.380 I want to be closer to him. I want to follow 00:33:39.380 --> 00:33:41.880 him. I want to be changed by him. I want to be 00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:45.160 more like him. And that's where the gratitude 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:51.019 to desire really, that's when I say that gratitude 00:33:51.019 --> 00:33:53.400 is the beginning of desire. That's where it really 00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:56.700 pulls me in. Yeah. And then you get to feel his 00:33:56.700 --> 00:34:01.190 love for you. And while he was busy, you know, 00:34:01.309 --> 00:34:03.890 dripping drops of blood for you, he was dripping 00:34:03.890 --> 00:34:06.430 drops of blood for me and for all of our listeners 00:34:06.430 --> 00:34:09.849 and for everyone. Even some of those that will 00:34:09.849 --> 00:34:12.050 walk away from the gift because the invitation 00:34:12.050 --> 00:34:14.860 is always there. Yeah, to come to me and it's 00:34:14.860 --> 00:34:17.000 not a one and done It's not like you pass up 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:18.760 the invitation. You don't get another one Well, 00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.300 one of the things that is is healing for me is 00:34:22.300 --> 00:34:25.300 that the atonement is infinite meaning no beginning 00:34:25.300 --> 00:34:29.460 and no end and so when I have a Moment or when 00:34:29.460 --> 00:34:32.500 I have a child or or someone that I'm worried 00:34:32.500 --> 00:34:36.460 about it's like God has them Jesus Christ blood 00:34:36.460 --> 00:34:41.889 for them, too He loves them perfectly and gave 00:34:41.889 --> 00:34:45.090 that unspeakable gift to them. And if it was 00:34:45.090 --> 00:34:47.409 just for them, he would have done it. Again, 00:34:47.489 --> 00:34:50.349 I'm just going to reiterate it. When I feel gratitude 00:34:50.349 --> 00:34:53.090 for him, suddenly I want to be closer to him. 00:34:53.570 --> 00:34:56.130 I want to follow him. I want to be changed by 00:34:56.130 --> 00:34:59.650 him. I want to be more like him. And it's for 00:34:59.650 --> 00:35:01.730 a different reason. It's not from pressure, Deb. 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:06.159 It's not from, if I make things, it's not, it's 00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:09.099 not a quid pro quo kind of experience, right? 00:35:09.460 --> 00:35:12.780 It's more of a, not from pressure, but from love. 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:17.500 100 % love. And it goes back to that relationship. 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.400 We walk with, if you want to walk with somebody, 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:22.039 you're going to have some kind of a relationship 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.349 with them. If you want to have a relationship 00:35:25.349 --> 00:35:28.289 with someone, you will covenant with them, which 00:35:28.289 --> 00:35:31.070 is one of the sacred things of marriage is that 00:35:31.070 --> 00:35:34.829 covenant relationship that you and I have. And 00:35:34.829 --> 00:35:37.630 then I think about, do I have that kind of covenant 00:35:37.630 --> 00:35:40.610 relationship with my Savior, Jesus Christ? Do 00:35:40.610 --> 00:35:43.369 I honor those covenants every week when I partake 00:35:43.369 --> 00:35:45.469 of that bread and drink of those emblems, that 00:35:45.469 --> 00:35:50.409 water? Do I think about my covenants that I have 00:35:50.409 --> 00:35:56.250 made with him? to renew and remember. Because 00:35:56.250 --> 00:35:58.590 my relationship with him is the most important 00:35:58.590 --> 00:36:03.090 relationship in my life. Right. The most important 00:36:03.090 --> 00:36:05.590 relationship in my life. Bar none. Me too. Bar 00:36:05.590 --> 00:36:10.530 none. I love when we, and again this, when I 00:36:10.530 --> 00:36:14.010 talk about gratitude and desire, it takes me 00:36:14.010 --> 00:36:16.579 straight to love. You just mentioned it. Yeah. 00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:20.000 Straight to love. John 419 that you see on everybody's 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:23.679 bumper sticker. John 419. Yeah. Actually, I'm 00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:27.619 going to do 418 and 19. So this first John 4, 00:36:28.420 --> 00:36:31.880 there is no fair in love, but perfect love casteth 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:36.320 out fear because fear hath torment. He that feareth 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:40.280 is not made perfect in love. We love him because 00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:46.869 he first loved us. I think about where that love 00:36:46.869 --> 00:36:49.710 was demonstrated for me. You know, we talked 00:36:49.710 --> 00:36:52.610 about just recently an institute, the events 00:36:52.610 --> 00:36:55.469 of Christ's home. We talked about his sinless 00:36:55.469 --> 00:36:58.030 life. We talked about Gethsemane and the torment 00:36:58.030 --> 00:37:01.369 and torture that he went through just spiritually 00:37:01.369 --> 00:37:03.909 and physically there. And then the torment and 00:37:03.909 --> 00:37:07.570 torture that he went through between Gethsemane 00:37:07.570 --> 00:37:10.829 and the cross and the flogging and the spinning 00:37:10.829 --> 00:37:15.320 upon and just the absolute vile disrespect that 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:18.280 Jesus went through, all of that. And then on 00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:21.460 the cross, where I guess so many was intensified, 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:25.380 according to so many of our modern day apostles 00:37:25.380 --> 00:37:29.920 and prophets, right? And so, you know, when I 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:33.900 think of all of that, And I think of the love 00:37:33.900 --> 00:37:37.519 that he had for me to go through that. And again, 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.940 I'll go back to my experience. You know, all 00:37:39.940 --> 00:37:43.119 of those things that I was experiencing, he knew. 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.239 And he loved me through them and because of them. 00:37:46.579 --> 00:37:48.739 And not only that, but the reason I was able 00:37:48.739 --> 00:37:51.239 to have gratitude in that experience is because 00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:56.199 I knew that he knew. Prior to all of and any 00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:58.260 of that happening to me, what was going to happen 00:37:58.260 --> 00:38:01.699 to me? And he chose it anyway. Yeah, he loved 00:38:01.699 --> 00:38:05.539 me first and speakable gift. Yeah. What about 00:38:05.539 --> 00:38:09.019 when life is painful? Yeah, or when there are 00:38:09.019 --> 00:38:11.860 things get unfair or when someone is struggling 00:38:11.860 --> 00:38:17.159 with addiction or grief or loss or or accusation, 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:22.449 false accusation. There's so many things. that 00:38:22.449 --> 00:38:25.429 life throws at us. And again, when President 00:38:25.429 --> 00:38:28.809 Nelson said, we live in tumultuous times. I mean, 00:38:28.849 --> 00:38:32.550 and boy, howdy, have we ever seen mass. You know, 00:38:32.610 --> 00:38:36.730 just around us. And I realized that we kind of 00:38:36.730 --> 00:38:39.929 put ourselves in situations where we're probably 00:38:39.929 --> 00:38:42.690 more prone to have these kinds of experiences 00:38:42.690 --> 00:38:46.710 around us being in recovery and teaching us, 00:38:46.809 --> 00:38:49.889 I don't know, whatever, maybe not. Maybe not. 00:38:50.030 --> 00:38:52.750 I think everybody has stuff. I really do. I think 00:38:52.750 --> 00:38:55.349 the most important thing to know is gratitude 00:38:55.349 --> 00:38:58.329 doesn't mean pretending that suffering isn't 00:38:58.329 --> 00:39:03.710 happening, isn't real. Gratitude doesn't mean 00:39:03.710 --> 00:39:07.010 calling evil good and it doesn't minimize the 00:39:07.010 --> 00:39:09.949 pain or suffering or sorrow that we're going 00:39:09.949 --> 00:39:12.730 through or the loss. I don't think gratitude 00:39:12.730 --> 00:39:16.590 is here to say, okay, well, I just lost this 00:39:16.590 --> 00:39:19.389 or I'm struggling with this. I don't think it's 00:39:19.389 --> 00:39:25.260 a pretending thing. I think gratitude means recognizing 00:39:25.260 --> 00:39:29.900 that Jesus Christ is present, even in the broken 00:39:29.900 --> 00:39:33.119 pieces and in all the broken places. I love how 00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:37.610 you say that. Broken pieces, broken places. I 00:39:37.610 --> 00:39:40.010 love that. Well, we're in a fallen world. Everything's 00:39:40.010 --> 00:39:42.449 broken here. Well, and you know, and here's the 00:39:42.449 --> 00:39:45.170 other thing too, sometimes, and I know that this 00:39:45.170 --> 00:39:46.670 is something that we've talked about in the past, 00:39:46.710 --> 00:39:48.869 but sometimes we feel like that when things are 00:39:48.869 --> 00:39:51.309 tough in our life, that maybe we're being punished. 00:39:51.610 --> 00:39:53.889 And it's really difficult sometimes to find gratitude 00:39:53.889 --> 00:39:58.110 in those situations. But if we look to the Prophet 00:39:58.110 --> 00:40:01.769 Joseph Smith and his experience in Liberty Jail 00:40:01.769 --> 00:40:05.190 where where he's going through, you know, he 00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:06.800 says, and I'm not going to read it. I'll just 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.840 kind of summarize it, but he tells the Heavenly 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:11.900 Father, he says, where are you? Where's the pavilion 00:40:11.900 --> 00:40:14.400 that's hiding you and how could you leave me 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:16.519 here and all that? And then, you know, Heavenly 00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:19.480 Father talks to him and one of the things that 00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:21.780 he says to him is all these things shall give 00:40:21.780 --> 00:40:25.480 the experience and shall be for thy good. So 00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:29.380 I don't know. Can we find gratitude and hardship? 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:35.389 Well, I will tell you this. Looking back on my 00:40:35.389 --> 00:40:39.030 personal life, some of the greatest growth and 00:40:39.030 --> 00:40:45.429 some of the most growth momentum times of my 00:40:45.429 --> 00:40:49.650 life was when I have been going through grief 00:40:49.650 --> 00:40:56.699 and sorrow and the pains and it literally I can 00:40:56.699 --> 00:40:58.539 tell you that that was for my greatest good. 00:40:59.099 --> 00:41:01.460 And I'm gonna go back to my, there's no growing 00:41:01.460 --> 00:41:03.039 in the comfort zone, no comfort in the growing 00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:07.079 zone, because I'm uncomfortable still, and I'm 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.480 growing. But I get to ask that question, help 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:13.239 me see what it is for my good. I think about 00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:16.860 taking little children to the... doctor when 00:41:16.860 --> 00:41:19.179 they're little to get them their their vaccinations 00:41:19.179 --> 00:41:22.079 or to get a shot to help them feel better from 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.739 an ear infection or whatever and they hate me 00:41:24.739 --> 00:41:28.239 at the time and they're in massive pain but I 00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:30.840 just say trust me this is gonna be for your good 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:33.719 you will heal and this will make you feel better 00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:36.699 and this will keep you from getting more sick 00:41:36.699 --> 00:41:40.980 or whatever that may be but just knowing that 00:41:41.670 --> 00:41:44.989 These experiences these challenges these things 00:41:44.989 --> 00:41:48.030 that we are going through even though I don't 00:41:48.030 --> 00:41:52.809 always know Will be for my good and I know God's 00:41:52.809 --> 00:41:55.329 in charge he is the author and finisher of my 00:41:55.329 --> 00:42:04.329 my life and I trust him I Love that Deb So, where 00:42:04.329 --> 00:42:08.309 do we go from here? How do we now look at gratitude? 00:42:08.610 --> 00:42:10.550 Do we still look at it the same, or do we practice 00:42:10.550 --> 00:42:13.190 it the same, or should we maybe just take a look? 00:42:13.590 --> 00:42:15.590 I'm gonna do a little personal inventory. I'm 00:42:15.590 --> 00:42:18.090 gonna take a look at the way I've been doing 00:42:18.090 --> 00:42:21.210 gratitude lately, because I know that there's 00:42:21.210 --> 00:42:23.809 areas, Deb, where I can do better. Me too. I 00:42:23.809 --> 00:42:27.650 know there's areas where I can focus on more 00:42:27.650 --> 00:42:31.940 on the who instead of the what. I get caught 00:42:31.940 --> 00:42:34.659 up in it. I get caught up in the what sometimes. 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:38.159 Am I thankful for this or that? And I really 00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:41.059 just need to be more focused. This is me. I need 00:42:41.059 --> 00:42:45.400 to be more focused on him. Just being more grateful 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.679 for him. And maybe instead of asking, what am 00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:53.099 I grateful for today? Maybe say, where did I 00:42:53.099 --> 00:42:56.840 see the Savior in my life today? Maybe change 00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.559 that gratitude is where did I see Jesus today, 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:04.900 right? How did he show up in my life today? Those 00:43:04.900 --> 00:43:10.679 tender mercies those instruments of grace Because 00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:15.000 I know from my own experience that when I put 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:18.480 on those spiritual eyes I see him every day and 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:23.929 everywhere I am reminded what Paul told those 00:43:23.929 --> 00:43:29.190 Thessalonica at the end of 1 Thessalonians chapter 00:43:29.190 --> 00:43:32.969 5 verse 18 he said in everything give thanks 00:43:32.969 --> 00:43:35.949 in every good thing give thanks you know because 00:43:35.949 --> 00:43:39.530 when when we begin to recognize him in our lifestyle 00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.719 Him being Jesus Christ our gratitude grows and 00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.480 when our gratitude grows our desire grows So 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:48.760 I desire to follow him our desire to be more 00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:52.880 like him our desire to love him and to love others 00:43:53.720 --> 00:43:57.699 It just grows and as we do that we find ourselves 00:43:57.699 --> 00:44:00.820 in an attitude of come unto me when he invites 00:44:00.820 --> 00:44:04.440 us to come unto me and walk with me. I love that 00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:07.039 you brought that up earlier. Come unto me and 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:12.539 walk with me. This is an area where desire is 00:44:12.539 --> 00:44:15.599 what draws us closer to Jesus Christ and it's 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:18.539 in him that we find peace. In order for that 00:44:18.539 --> 00:44:22.179 desire to become bigger I need to I'm invited 00:44:22.179 --> 00:44:24.880 to practice deeper gratitude. And maybe that 00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:29.039 can be our invitation this week. Well, and I 00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:32.139 think even when we get vulnerable like that, 00:44:32.300 --> 00:44:35.679 it's a more intimate relationship with our Savior. 00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:39.079 And that's what He wants, is that intimate relationship. 00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:44.739 Into me, I see that intimacy. And being vulnerable 00:44:44.739 --> 00:44:48.239 and taking all of your challenges and trials, 00:44:48.699 --> 00:44:52.530 cry out to Him. Talk to him like you would your 00:44:52.530 --> 00:44:56.289 very, very, very best friend, your confidant, 00:44:56.530 --> 00:44:59.929 your spouse, your name, I mean, whoever that 00:44:59.929 --> 00:45:03.570 person is, but just know that he not only hears 00:45:03.570 --> 00:45:07.849 you, but he's felt it, everything. And what a 00:45:07.849 --> 00:45:11.230 gift it is to know that. Let's all make it a 00:45:11.230 --> 00:45:14.269 goal to strengthen our relationship, our covenant 00:45:14.269 --> 00:45:17.489 relationship with him. I think our invitation 00:45:17.489 --> 00:45:20.789 this week then Deb is maybe through gratitude. 00:45:21.010 --> 00:45:24.250 We begin to see him and we focus our gratitude 00:45:24.250 --> 00:45:27.869 on him. I love that you invited us rather than 00:45:27.869 --> 00:45:30.010 to be looking for things that we're grateful 00:45:30.010 --> 00:45:34.909 for, to see the things that he, to look for him 00:45:34.909 --> 00:45:37.130 in our lives, various aspects of our lives and 00:45:37.130 --> 00:45:39.750 that will just naturally bring gratitude to us. 00:45:40.530 --> 00:45:42.570 Thanks for being with us everybody. We look forward 00:45:42.570 --> 00:45:45.010 to being with you again next week and until then 00:45:45.010 --> 00:45:45.610 be well.