WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.319 Hey there, everybody. Welcome out to another 00:00:02.319 --> 00:00:04.700 episode of Redeemed Through His Blood. This is 00:00:04.700 --> 00:00:08.580 Scott Durfey. And as always, I'm joined by the 00:00:08.580 --> 00:00:12.800 beautiful Princess Debra Durfey. Good grief. 00:00:14.099 --> 00:00:16.980 Every week I get a title. I love it. It was Princess 00:00:16.980 --> 00:00:19.480 last week, too, I think, actually. So you should 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:21.739 be getting used to that one by now, I would think. 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:24.760 Yeah. Nobody else is probably getting sick of 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:27.350 it. No, I don't think so. Those who know you 00:00:27.350 --> 00:00:29.589 agree, those who don't will just have to take 00:00:29.589 --> 00:00:31.629 my word for it. And if they listen to you long 00:00:31.629 --> 00:00:33.549 enough, they'll agree, too. Oh, goodness. Hey, 00:00:33.750 --> 00:00:37.170 it's good to be home, I guess. Right. We just 00:00:37.170 --> 00:00:40.750 got back from a just yesterday. We flew home 00:00:40.750 --> 00:00:44.409 from Miami. We spent a few days in the Caribbean. 00:00:44.929 --> 00:00:48.490 Seven, to be exact. But who's counting in the 00:00:48.490 --> 00:00:51.229 beautiful sunshine and the turquoise waters? 00:00:51.509 --> 00:00:56.060 Sure was, too. So lovely, beautiful and warm. 00:00:56.259 --> 00:00:59.520 Sometimes it's a little bit difficult to return. 00:01:00.380 --> 00:01:03.659 Yes. To come home. Absolutely. To come back and 00:01:03.659 --> 00:01:08.359 face our reality. Our reality. Yeah. I don't 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:10.480 think I could be, I could function or live in 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:14.019 the Caribbean. I think I would just constantly 00:01:14.019 --> 00:01:17.260 just relax in the sun and enjoy that beautiful 00:01:17.260 --> 00:01:20.629 water. I'd like to give it a try. Yeah, I'd have 00:01:20.629 --> 00:01:24.129 to take all my kids. Yeah, that's true. That 00:01:24.129 --> 00:01:26.950 alone keeps me here. And that's reason enough. 00:01:27.010 --> 00:01:28.810 The other thing is, too, is we both said when 00:01:28.810 --> 00:01:31.650 we came home, when we're driving up and we see 00:01:31.650 --> 00:01:34.590 the beautiful mountains, you know, just to the 00:01:34.590 --> 00:01:37.030 east of us here, right, right out our front door. 00:01:37.469 --> 00:01:40.750 You know, we both said. It's awesome to be in 00:01:40.750 --> 00:01:43.189 a beautiful area like we were but there's no 00:01:43.189 --> 00:01:46.629 place like home so true, right? So true. Yeah, 00:01:46.810 --> 00:01:49.650 it's it's just good to sometimes be home, you 00:01:49.650 --> 00:01:52.670 know to get our feet back under us and face reality 00:01:52.670 --> 00:01:55.689 and even though sometimes we don't We don't want 00:01:55.689 --> 00:01:58.049 to face reality. We don't want the responsibilities 00:01:58.049 --> 00:02:00.930 that come with reality You know, I think that 00:02:00.930 --> 00:02:04.109 those are also a gift or can be as well. So Yeah, 00:02:04.109 --> 00:02:08.009 it was lovely. Yeah. Hey, last episode that came 00:02:08.009 --> 00:02:10.629 out was the one that we did on step two with 00:02:10.629 --> 00:02:13.430 Crystal and Nick. Love them. Yeah, it was great 00:02:13.430 --> 00:02:17.229 too. Apparently, we've had a lot of response, 00:02:17.389 --> 00:02:19.629 a lot of emails. You can email us, by the way. 00:02:19.770 --> 00:02:23.270 He redeems us at gmail .com. Some emails and 00:02:23.270 --> 00:02:25.830 various things like that, calls, people that 00:02:25.830 --> 00:02:29.580 we know. So it sounds like that we're gonna do 00:02:29.580 --> 00:02:32.340 step three next month in March because March 00:02:32.340 --> 00:02:34.379 is the third month step three We're gonna kind 00:02:34.379 --> 00:02:36.960 of keep them correlated that way and how perfect 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:42.039 is that it's it's all in divine order Yeah, we're 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:43.960 excited about doing that more today. We're gonna 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:47.120 shift gears just a little bit You know, we you 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:49.800 know, we we spend a lot of time really talking 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.300 about the doctrine behind repentance and we and 00:02:53.300 --> 00:02:56.659 we include all of the the important, you know 00:02:56.659 --> 00:03:00.960 again doctrinal points Etc and sometimes, you 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:04.719 know We just need to take a little bit of a pause, 00:03:04.740 --> 00:03:08.860 I think, and look to see maybe where we're seeing 00:03:08.860 --> 00:03:11.180 these things in our own life outside of all the 00:03:11.180 --> 00:03:14.060 chaos. I did get an email, speaking of emails, 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:16.580 and again, we appreciate those. I did get an 00:03:16.580 --> 00:03:18.560 email from somebody recently. I'm not going to 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:21.180 get into a lot of detail because there's some 00:03:21.180 --> 00:03:24.740 kind of sensitive stuff in this one. But but 00:03:24.740 --> 00:03:29.979 the situation is such where a family could be 00:03:29.979 --> 00:03:34.039 It's the the family structure is actually in 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:39.060 terrible Jeopardy there's an individual the husband 00:03:39.060 --> 00:03:42.419 and father who's really struggling to fill our 00:03:42.419 --> 00:03:45.840 Heavenly Father spirit in light of a split up 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:50.060 and just just a lot of chaos You know, and I'm 00:03:50.060 --> 00:03:53.539 getting one letter I don't I don't know the the 00:03:53.539 --> 00:03:56.139 wife story and all of those things and it's not 00:03:56.139 --> 00:03:59.219 really important that I do because Heavenly Father 00:03:59.219 --> 00:04:02.810 and through his son that he loves us all Right. 00:04:02.870 --> 00:04:05.669 And he's going to as we approach him and sometimes 00:04:05.669 --> 00:04:09.349 even before we even notice it, sometimes he gets 00:04:09.349 --> 00:04:13.110 busy being in our lives. Sometimes we won't notice 00:04:13.110 --> 00:04:15.050 it. You know, I got an email today from again, 00:04:15.250 --> 00:04:17.550 as I mentioned from this gentleman and he is 00:04:17.550 --> 00:04:20.769 finding Deb, you can't believe what's what this 00:04:20.769 --> 00:04:24.189 guy's going through. And it's it's about as bad 00:04:24.189 --> 00:04:28.689 as you can imagine. But but he for some reason 00:04:28.689 --> 00:04:32.319 has been able to grasp. The concept of having 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:35.199 a relationship with Heavenly Father through Heavenly 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:38.279 Father, Son Jesus, administrated by the Holy 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:43.480 Ghost so that he can, in his time of trial, fill 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.259 the ministering of angels and the ministering 00:04:46.259 --> 00:04:49.180 of the blessings, the enabling and the compensatory 00:04:49.180 --> 00:04:51.500 and the redeeming blessings that come from Christ's 00:04:51.500 --> 00:04:56.470 atonement in his life. I think that, you know, 00:04:56.490 --> 00:05:01.129 this really speaks loud words around, you know, 00:05:01.290 --> 00:05:03.290 maybe something that sometimes I don't really 00:05:03.290 --> 00:05:06.769 remember to consider. And that is this, you know, 00:05:06.930 --> 00:05:09.709 it's easy to see. Heavenly Father it's easy to 00:05:09.709 --> 00:05:12.050 see the effects of his son when there are big 00:05:12.050 --> 00:05:15.110 loud miracles, right? You know when when I see 00:05:15.110 --> 00:05:17.649 the Red Sea parted in my own life. Oh, yeah, 00:05:17.649 --> 00:05:21.129 that's easy to see you know Or when I see you 00:05:21.129 --> 00:05:25.050 know any of those you know the blind to see You 00:05:25.050 --> 00:05:27.550 know so to speak metaphorically speaking of course 00:05:27.550 --> 00:05:31.870 you know and when I see those miracles It's pretty 00:05:31.870 --> 00:05:35.689 easy But sometimes you know that life doesn't 00:05:35.689 --> 00:05:39.360 happen like that Life doesn't happen in big moments. 00:05:39.699 --> 00:05:42.139 You know, we don't have a series of big moments 00:05:42.139 --> 00:05:45.399 in Call That Life. What we have is a series of... 00:05:45.310 --> 00:05:48.629 hopefully, you know, more quiet moments, etc. 00:05:48.949 --> 00:05:53.129 And then we move into on occasion these big chaotic 00:05:53.129 --> 00:05:56.750 or these big dramatic or these big magnificent 00:05:56.750 --> 00:06:00.750 events and experiences. But those are typically 00:06:00.750 --> 00:06:03.649 the exception rather than the rule. Yeah, the 00:06:03.649 --> 00:06:06.410 rule is typically just, you know, typical Tuesday 00:06:06.410 --> 00:06:09.540 afternoon life. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean? 00:06:09.699 --> 00:06:13.180 Yeah, just and so the question becomes when I 00:06:13.180 --> 00:06:16.620 don't have these big events happening in my life 00:06:16.620 --> 00:06:20.519 that drive me or draw me to him How do I see 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:23.899 him? Where is he in the quietness? Where is he 00:06:23.899 --> 00:06:28.519 in the quiet moments? And how do I begin to recognize 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:32.040 and see him in those moments? Does that make 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:35.560 sense? Yes, it makes 100 % sense. And I think 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:40.399 it reminds me of that scripture in Alma 37, 6 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:43.819 and 7. I'll never forget this. My niece Hannah. 00:06:44.170 --> 00:06:47.870 at her farewell for her mission. She got up and 00:06:47.870 --> 00:06:51.629 talked about this. Like this was years ago that 00:06:51.629 --> 00:06:55.269 she had a farewell, but I remember her sharing 00:06:55.269 --> 00:06:58.910 this scripture and talking about small and simple 00:06:58.910 --> 00:07:01.550 things, great things come about. And it's again 00:07:01.550 --> 00:07:05.629 in Alma 37 verses six and seven. And I'm going 00:07:05.629 --> 00:07:06.769 to go ahead and read that and then I'm going 00:07:06.769 --> 00:07:10.449 to talk about it. Now we may suppose that this 00:07:10.449 --> 00:07:13.670 is foolish in me, but behold, I say unto you, 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:17.040 that by small and simple things are great things 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:22.279 brought to pass and small means in many instances 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:26.420 doth confound the wise and the Lord God doth 00:07:26.420 --> 00:07:30.399 doth work by means to bring about his great and 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:34.439 eternal purposes and by very small means the 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:38.360 Lord doth doth confound the wise and bringeth 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:41.740 about the salvation of many souls I love that 00:07:41.740 --> 00:07:45.990 I love this simplicity of that, that it's small, 00:07:46.670 --> 00:07:50.370 still a small voice, small actions, small. I 00:07:50.370 --> 00:07:53.990 mean, and it also reminds me this morning, um, 00:07:53.990 --> 00:07:56.470 when I was doing my scripture study and I was 00:07:56.470 --> 00:07:59.170 reading about Abraham and his chaotic household 00:07:59.170 --> 00:08:02.089 that he was raised in and then how he followed 00:08:02.089 --> 00:08:05.050 the Lord. And I just thought, who can relate 00:08:05.050 --> 00:08:10.069 with chaotic households? Anyways, um, and you 00:08:10.069 --> 00:08:13.189 know, when I was done, I began to pray and I 00:08:13.189 --> 00:08:17.990 just wept. And I just haven't said, Heavenly 00:08:17.990 --> 00:08:22.490 Father, I know you're there. I feel you. I don't 00:08:22.490 --> 00:08:25.629 know if it was the week away from the chaos that 00:08:25.629 --> 00:08:29.189 brought me back to that, but I'm like, I feel 00:08:29.189 --> 00:08:34.090 you. You're here. And I had this, I had an appointment 00:08:34.090 --> 00:08:36.460 at the dentist this morning. eight o 'clock this 00:08:36.460 --> 00:08:38.519 morning. And when I walked in, the entire staff 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:42.379 was sitting in the, in the entrance. And I walked 00:08:42.379 --> 00:08:44.279 in and they all looked at me and they're like, 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:48.539 well, good morning. And, and one of the assistants 00:08:48.539 --> 00:08:52.580 said, you know, the dentist said, who gets to 00:08:52.580 --> 00:08:54.620 work on Deb? And I said, who got the shortest 00:08:54.620 --> 00:08:57.960 straw? Anyways, this cute little gal, Melissa, 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:00.820 she says, it is so good to finally meet you. 00:09:00.940 --> 00:09:03.480 And I thought, Oh yeah, it's nice to meet you 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:05.759 too. And then she started to talk about how she 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:08.500 has met you a couple of times and how she listens 00:09:08.500 --> 00:09:15.220 to the podcast. And we had the sweetest conversation 00:09:15.220 --> 00:09:20.200 about how the atonement of Jesus Christ works 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:23.440 in our lives. And you know, I wasn't expecting 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:26.460 that. I wasn't expecting, I was going to get 00:09:26.460 --> 00:09:32.679 my teeth cleaned at x -rayed and this sweet, 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:36.360 um, Melissa, she just, she just kept talking 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:39.759 about how impactful it is. And then she shared 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.340 some of her own story of how, you know, she's 00:09:43.340 --> 00:09:45.740 had to rely on the atonement of Jesus Christ. 00:09:46.179 --> 00:09:49.000 And I just think, you know what? We all carry 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:54.580 heavy burdens. We all have things going on in 00:09:54.580 --> 00:09:58.980 our lives that if we For me, I have to pause 00:09:58.980 --> 00:10:04.000 and have the eyes to see the small and simple 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.980 things. And I was so abundantly blessed this 00:10:07.980 --> 00:10:10.379 morning. And the first time I met her, I mean, 00:10:10.379 --> 00:10:12.120 it's the very first time I met her, when we're 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:13.360 getting ready to leave, I just hugged her and 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:18.100 I said, I love you. It was just immediate. But 00:10:18.100 --> 00:10:19.980 I just thought, what a gift. Thank you, Heavenly 00:10:19.980 --> 00:10:23.759 Father, for sending her, allowing her of all 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:27.629 of that entire staff. It was just a tender, tender, 00:10:27.889 --> 00:10:30.590 sweet moment. And she was testifying to me. She 00:10:30.590 --> 00:10:34.210 gave me chills. I just, it was so sweet. Just 00:10:34.210 --> 00:10:37.090 a small everyday go to the dentist appointment. 00:10:37.950 --> 00:10:41.690 Yeah. So cool. Yeah. Small and simple things. 00:10:41.909 --> 00:10:46.580 Yeah. I love in that scripture that you read, 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:48.820 you know, in verse six, it calls it small and 00:10:48.820 --> 00:10:50.899 simple things. And then in verse seven, it says 00:10:50.899 --> 00:10:55.899 very small, simple things, right? I mean, and 00:10:55.899 --> 00:10:58.620 I think that that's intentional. I think that 00:10:58.620 --> 00:11:02.559 it's like, I think the message that we are trying, 00:11:02.899 --> 00:11:05.700 that the Spirit is trying to convey to us there 00:11:05.700 --> 00:11:09.379 is, guys, it doesn't have to be fireworks. It's 00:11:09.379 --> 00:11:13.240 just little moments, little... tender mercies, 00:11:13.259 --> 00:11:16.340 we call them sometimes, you know. And very small 00:11:16.340 --> 00:11:20.259 is doable. You know, when it, when he talks about, 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:23.580 cause sometimes I think I feel like I need to 00:11:23.580 --> 00:11:27.039 be doing more. I need to be more productive and 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:30.500 more minister more and serve more. And you know, 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:35.100 I think sometimes I forget that it is the small 00:11:35.100 --> 00:11:37.580 and simple things saying a prayer for someone 00:11:37.580 --> 00:11:40.299 that's struggling, putting a name in the temple. 00:11:40.590 --> 00:11:46.190 You know, a smile, you know, and passing a stranger. 00:11:47.070 --> 00:11:52.049 Just finding compassion. Yes. And I think it 00:11:52.049 --> 00:11:54.289 reminds me in this, we may get derailed on this 00:11:54.289 --> 00:11:57.129 one, but it just, I was listening to a podcast 00:11:57.129 --> 00:12:00.049 just recently and they talked about how in the 00:12:00.049 --> 00:12:02.470 end, all of our sins will be exposed on this 00:12:02.470 --> 00:12:05.990 big reel or whatever. Anyways, and they said, 00:12:06.009 --> 00:12:09.860 you know, our sin is our fallen state. It's not 00:12:09.860 --> 00:12:12.799 necessarily the bad things we've done, but, and 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:16.600 I think if we could see into everybody's life 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:20.200 and see their fallen, the challenges and the 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:23.759 trials that they have endured in this lifetime, 00:12:24.139 --> 00:12:27.399 we all would have more compassion. We would all 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:31.399 have a more open heart. And I'm so sorry that 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:34.789 you've endured that, but you don't know. Well, 00:12:34.929 --> 00:12:37.210 and you said if we could see others that way, 00:12:37.509 --> 00:12:39.809 what if we could see ourselves that way? What 00:12:39.809 --> 00:12:42.629 if we could see our own challenges, big and small? 00:12:43.409 --> 00:12:45.769 Because sometimes I have little challenges that 00:12:45.769 --> 00:12:50.210 just gnaw at me. They're just constantly banging 00:12:50.210 --> 00:12:53.350 on me, just small little challenges sometimes. 00:12:54.149 --> 00:12:57.029 And then sometimes we have big challenges. But 00:12:57.029 --> 00:13:00.470 I think it's in any challenge. It's in anything, 00:13:00.629 --> 00:13:03.230 you know. And again, you say it's that fallen 00:13:03.230 --> 00:13:06.190 state. I think that's where I see my small challenges. 00:13:06.789 --> 00:13:09.370 I see my big ones there, too. But my small ones 00:13:09.370 --> 00:13:12.610 can get sneaky on me, right? They can just come 00:13:12.610 --> 00:13:15.769 in and I can be just kind of floating along in 00:13:15.769 --> 00:13:18.330 life. And then at some point just realize, man, 00:13:18.889 --> 00:13:21.590 there's something off. You know, I feel a little 00:13:21.590 --> 00:13:25.529 bit off. And sometimes when I say I feel a little 00:13:25.529 --> 00:13:27.610 bit off, it's because I haven't noticed, you 00:13:27.610 --> 00:13:30.649 know, we get an opportunity, babe, to have big 00:13:30.649 --> 00:13:33.129 manifestations of the spirit. Well, you know, 00:13:33.289 --> 00:13:35.629 we get them constantly when we're doing this. 00:13:35.669 --> 00:13:38.470 You know, it's not infrequent that in this little 00:13:38.470 --> 00:13:40.529 tiny room here in our house where we do this 00:13:40.529 --> 00:13:43.029 podcast. that we get flooded with the spirit 00:13:43.029 --> 00:13:45.429 when we're doing this conveying to us the truth 00:13:45.429 --> 00:13:47.129 of the things that we're talking about. And I 00:13:47.129 --> 00:13:49.070 know that he conveys the truth of the things 00:13:49.070 --> 00:13:50.809 that we're talking about to our listeners as 00:13:50.809 --> 00:13:53.669 well. Then we go to Institute and we get to have 00:13:53.669 --> 00:13:56.409 big experiences there. I got a text from somebody 00:13:56.409 --> 00:14:00.149 just this past week who is a licensed clinical 00:14:00.149 --> 00:14:03.409 social worker who sent somebody to our Institute 00:14:03.409 --> 00:14:05.629 class. And the response from the person they 00:14:05.629 --> 00:14:07.789 sent to the Institute class was the spirit was 00:14:07.789 --> 00:14:11.110 palatable. I could just feel the spirit. I'll 00:14:11.110 --> 00:14:14.090 definitely and so we you and I get an opportunity 00:14:14.090 --> 00:14:18.850 to have Experiences like that on a semi -frequent 00:14:18.850 --> 00:14:22.029 basis, you know what I find effort. Oh, yeah. 00:14:22.029 --> 00:14:24.929 I mean we oh, yeah Yeah, yeah effort and work 00:14:24.929 --> 00:14:26.789 and all that maybe means the same thing, but 00:14:26.789 --> 00:14:30.389 it's definitely there But it's so it's sometimes 00:14:30.389 --> 00:14:34.029 easy for me when it gets a little quieter and 00:14:34.029 --> 00:14:38.090 I'm not feeling those big I'll call them firework 00:14:38.090 --> 00:14:40.490 type of experiences. It's easy sometimes for 00:14:40.490 --> 00:14:45.870 me then to misinterpret the quietness as a separation 00:14:45.870 --> 00:14:49.070 of the spirit. Does that make sense to you? Yes, 00:14:49.570 --> 00:14:51.470 yeah. Yeah, and I could see that. Yeah, I get 00:14:51.470 --> 00:14:53.850 it. So, you know, I don't know if this is an 00:14:53.850 --> 00:14:56.009 appropriate association or not, but, you know, 00:14:56.029 --> 00:14:58.230 I'm a recovering alcoholic and a drug addict. 00:14:59.070 --> 00:15:05.509 You know, I want big experiences. God knows that 00:15:05.509 --> 00:15:07.610 though, and he's gonna teach you how to look 00:15:07.610 --> 00:15:10.490 for the small and simple things. It's difficult. 00:15:10.529 --> 00:15:15.629 You said that out loud. I know, I know. And that's 00:15:15.629 --> 00:15:18.950 maybe part of my step 10 right there for sure. 00:15:20.549 --> 00:15:23.470 So sometimes when it gets quiet and when it gets, 00:15:24.370 --> 00:15:27.529 things don't seem like they're big and fireworkish 00:15:27.529 --> 00:15:32.190 and all those kinds of things, maybe I feel inappropriately. 00:15:32.409 --> 00:15:35.149 But nonetheless, I feel a little bit disconnected 00:15:35.149 --> 00:15:38.370 and I'm wrong in that. And I've been I've been 00:15:38.370 --> 00:15:41.629 thinking about that since yesterday. I've been 00:15:41.629 --> 00:15:43.610 thinking a lot about that because we did come 00:15:43.610 --> 00:15:46.590 through a real quiet time. We were absent from 00:15:46.590 --> 00:15:49.629 our institute class. I didn't teach gospel doctrine 00:15:49.629 --> 00:15:52.129 this past Sunday and I was it was my turn to 00:15:52.129 --> 00:15:53.669 teach. And so, you know, I've had these things 00:15:53.669 --> 00:15:57.970 that keep me intact or in touch. And they've 00:15:57.970 --> 00:15:59.970 kind of been absent. So I've been thinking about 00:15:59.970 --> 00:16:02.669 over the last couple of days, Scott, where do 00:16:02.669 --> 00:16:05.490 you see him? Where does he show up? And Deb, 00:16:05.830 --> 00:16:08.850 it's amazing to me when I do that inventory how 00:16:08.850 --> 00:16:12.090 much he shows up, maybe even more in the quiet 00:16:12.090 --> 00:16:15.049 moments in my life. Yeah. It just we have to 00:16:15.049 --> 00:16:17.309 and I think that again and I bring this up all 00:16:17.309 --> 00:16:20.289 the time is that it's that be still Right be 00:16:20.289 --> 00:16:23.409 still and know that I am God right and I in this 00:16:23.409 --> 00:16:26.450 busy loud world. That's getting harder Yeah, 00:16:26.629 --> 00:16:29.779 and for some of us being still has been extremely 00:16:29.779 --> 00:16:31.879 uncomfortable in the past. For sure. And this 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:34.960 is where I feel, you know, you had that experience 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:37.840 with our sweet friend at the dentist office this 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:41.399 morning. You know, I would even see that as, 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:44.059 you know, a pretty good experience. But for me, 00:16:44.340 --> 00:16:47.620 over the last week or so, I've had an opportunity 00:16:47.620 --> 00:16:51.159 to reflect on the quietness and to find peace 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:54.360 in the quietness. That's a miracle for me. Yeah, 00:16:54.419 --> 00:16:57.179 that is. That's a huge miracle for me. Even in 00:16:57.179 --> 00:17:01.120 recovery, it's been difficult for me to be still 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:05.160 and to find. the spirit in the stillness, you 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:07.680 know, but which, which in the past has given 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:10.339 me a lot of anxiety. It's given me, I've been 00:17:10.339 --> 00:17:13.539 defensive. I've been, you know, whatever. And 00:17:13.539 --> 00:17:16.819 when I find myself lately and Nick, you know, 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:20.200 I, I reserve the right to make mistakes around 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:21.980 this. I'm just saying that so you don't hold 00:17:21.980 --> 00:17:23.700 me accountable a hundred percent of the time 00:17:23.700 --> 00:17:26.259 for it. But welcome to the carnal world. Right. 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:31.279 But, but the point is, is that I'm filling him. 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:34.440 You know, I'm not getting agitated. That's a 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:37.700 big deal for me. I mean, the lack of agitation, 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:39.839 I'm looking for miracles to receive stuff. But 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:42.279 when he takes stuff away from me, maybe it's 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.079 not as noticeable unless I make effort to notice 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.720 it. But I don't get agitated as much as I used 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:50.869 to. I'm not perfect at it, but I don't make awareness. 00:17:51.470 --> 00:17:56.009 I don't I don't get angry. I don't feel like 00:17:56.009 --> 00:17:58.250 somebody's taken advantage of me, for example, 00:17:58.250 --> 00:18:00.509 if they cut me off in traffic anymore. You know, 00:18:00.509 --> 00:18:03.269 it's been a long time since I've wanted to pull 00:18:03.269 --> 00:18:07.329 somebody over and fight him. Honestly, I mean, 00:18:07.589 --> 00:18:10.230 I'm just I'm just being transparent. I know it's 00:18:10.230 --> 00:18:12.250 been a long time. It's been a long time. Now, 00:18:12.289 --> 00:18:13.990 when I say a long time, it hasn't been years 00:18:13.990 --> 00:18:17.960 and years, but it's been months. That's progress. 00:18:18.500 --> 00:18:20.700 Right? Progress, not perfection. Yeah, so, you 00:18:20.700 --> 00:18:23.799 know, and this reminds me, Deb, you know, you 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:27.000 brought up that scripture from Alma. There's 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:29.140 one in the Doctrine and Covenants. It's in Doctrine 00:18:29.140 --> 00:18:31.220 and Covenants, section 84, and it's verse 88. 00:18:31.339 --> 00:18:34.759 And this one also, the one you read, and this 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:36.940 one, and there are a few others. But this one 00:18:36.940 --> 00:18:39.240 also really helps me, I think, kind of keep it 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:41.359 in perspective. And it says, and whoso receiveeth 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:43.799 you, there I will go also, for I will go before 00:18:43.799 --> 00:18:46.580 your face. I'll be on your right hand and I'll... 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:49.680 be on your left and my spirit shall be in your 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:53.539 hearts and my angels round about you to bear 00:18:53.539 --> 00:18:57.779 you up and my angels round about you to bear 00:18:57.779 --> 00:19:01.079 you up sometimes he's just there when it's quiet 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:05.359 yeah yeah he's present before we even notice 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:10.559 him wow wow yeah he's present before we even 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:15.220 notice he's there sometimes I wonder how many 00:19:15.220 --> 00:19:18.759 of us are missing that. Well, I'm definitely 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:22.160 guilty. And when I say us, I mean me. Yeah. I 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:24.779 know I have been and still sometimes do. And 00:19:24.779 --> 00:19:27.000 this may be something that is important for me 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:31.619 to continually be aware of. Work with coming 00:19:31.619 --> 00:19:35.000 to me in every thought Right. Yeah, right. Yeah, 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:37.900 you know David's in his last email. He started 00:19:37.900 --> 00:19:39.819 I may have already mentioned this but he's put 00:19:39.819 --> 00:19:43.079 when he when he signs off and they're doing wonderful 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:44.759 work in Australia, by the way I don't mean to 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:47.299 get sidetracked here, but at the end of his letters 00:19:47.299 --> 00:19:54.000 he puts now Lth David and I asked him what that 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:58.619 man is look to him Look to him. I like LTH. LTH. 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:00.579 Look to him. And that's really it, you know? 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:04.859 The question though is, Deb, why do we miss it? 00:20:05.460 --> 00:20:08.160 Why do we miss feeling that when it's quiet? 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:11.200 Well, we're in a world where we have instant 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:13.880 gratification, instant knowledge, instant food, 00:20:14.220 --> 00:20:17.099 instant whatever we want, we get it immediately. 00:20:17.500 --> 00:20:20.779 And I think we forget that we are spiritual beings 00:20:20.779 --> 00:20:26.349 having a mortal experience instantly. And God's 00:20:26.349 --> 00:20:29.569 timing is not the earth's timing. And I think 00:20:29.569 --> 00:20:33.849 it's, it's important for me to remember that 00:20:33.849 --> 00:20:38.609 stillness and calmness and peacefulness is of 00:20:38.609 --> 00:20:42.349 God. It's, you know, I think oftentimes when 00:20:42.349 --> 00:20:46.750 we are, when we stop in, in the world or we're, 00:20:47.009 --> 00:20:49.250 you know, we, we're not productive or we're not 00:20:49.250 --> 00:20:52.170 getting things done or we're, you know, we, we 00:20:52.170 --> 00:20:55.799 put judgment on it and it's interesting. to give 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:59.220 myself permission to go, it's okay to be still. 00:20:59.740 --> 00:21:03.759 I need that connection. I need that prayer and 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:09.119 meditation to be still and hear Him. I love that 00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:12.380 we're learning from the Old Testament, the Hebrew 00:21:12.380 --> 00:21:17.619 Bible this year. And I love that there's so many 00:21:17.619 --> 00:21:20.240 ways to find Jesus Christ in the Old Testament. 00:21:20.660 --> 00:21:24.369 There's a particular person who I love. His name 00:21:24.369 --> 00:21:30.529 is John Hilton III. And if you haven't, I'm promoting 00:21:30.529 --> 00:21:33.710 him and he has a podcast and he's a religion 00:21:33.710 --> 00:21:36.950 professor at BYU. He's just an amazing, an amazing 00:21:36.950 --> 00:21:39.410 man. His sweetheart, his sweet daughter was in 00:21:39.410 --> 00:21:42.569 our Institute class a couple of years ago and 00:21:42.569 --> 00:21:45.089 just absolutely love this guy. But the thing 00:21:45.089 --> 00:21:47.710 that he's helping me to learn better, Deb, is 00:21:47.710 --> 00:21:50.089 how to find Jesus Christ in the Old Testament. 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.940 John says it's on every Jesus is on every page 00:21:53.940 --> 00:21:55.920 of the Old Testament I've really tried to make 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:58.980 that kind of my my focus as I'm teaching the 00:21:58.980 --> 00:22:01.299 Old Testament in gospel doctrine as well But 00:22:01.299 --> 00:22:04.180 this is one of those examples of where we find 00:22:04.180 --> 00:22:06.400 Jesus even in the Old Testament and sometimes 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:08.460 especially in the Old Testament This is in first 00:22:08.460 --> 00:22:12.299 Kings and it's in chapter 19 and it's gonna start 00:22:12.299 --> 00:22:15.000 in verse 11 I think I'll read verses 11 and 12 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.559 and He said go forth and stand upon the mount 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.089 before the Lord and behold The Lord passed by 00:22:22.089 --> 00:22:25.190 and great and strong wind rent the mountains 00:22:25.190 --> 00:22:27.670 and break it in pieces and the rocks before the 00:22:27.670 --> 00:22:31.930 Lord. But the Lord was not in the wind. The Lord 00:22:31.930 --> 00:22:34.069 was not in the wind. Did you hear that? Interesting, 00:22:34.109 --> 00:22:37.869 huh? And after the wind an earthquake. But the 00:22:37.869 --> 00:22:41.089 Lord was not in the earthquake. Interesting. 00:22:42.690 --> 00:22:45.910 I what I think about this is just interesting 00:22:45.910 --> 00:22:48.730 it but and then verse 12 and then after the earthquake 00:22:48.730 --> 00:22:52.470 a fire but the Lord was not in the fire and after 00:22:52.470 --> 00:23:01.609 the fire a still small voice Wow There you go. 00:23:01.650 --> 00:23:04.549 Where are we looking for him? Yeah. The thunder 00:23:04.549 --> 00:23:07.190 and the fire and the wind. And again, when I 00:23:07.190 --> 00:23:09.549 say, where are we looking for him? I mean, where 00:23:09.549 --> 00:23:12.490 am I looking for him? I need this reminder. Yeah. 00:23:12.589 --> 00:23:15.910 I just need this reminder that sometimes it's 00:23:15.910 --> 00:23:22.329 just in the still small voice. Yeah. So true. 00:23:23.049 --> 00:23:25.930 Sometimes it's just really easy for us to overlook. 00:23:26.170 --> 00:23:30.390 the blessing of steadiness. We want intensity, 00:23:30.390 --> 00:23:34.220 you know. but he gives us constancy instead of, 00:23:34.299 --> 00:23:37.380 and sometimes intensity too, but he gives us 00:23:37.380 --> 00:23:40.640 constancy. I love this quote. This is from Elder 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:44.079 Bednar. This is from April 2011 general conference. 00:23:44.619 --> 00:23:47.160 The title of the talk is The Spirit of Revelation. 00:23:48.299 --> 00:23:51.480 Love this talk. Most frequently, revelation comes 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:54.319 in small increments over time and is granted 00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:57.039 according to our desire, worthiness and preparation. 00:23:57.230 --> 00:24:00.450 Such communications from Heavenly Father gradually 00:24:00.450 --> 00:24:06.490 and gently distill upon our souls. Interesting 00:24:06.490 --> 00:24:09.750 choice of wording there. Interesting choice, 00:24:09.950 --> 00:24:13.829 right? Yeah. What does it mean by distill upon 00:24:13.829 --> 00:24:16.950 our souls? Yeah, that's a great question. I actually 00:24:16.950 --> 00:24:19.730 had that, we talked about that. It's not like 00:24:19.730 --> 00:24:21.789 I had that question independent. I don't want 00:24:21.789 --> 00:24:25.009 to pretend like we did, but you know, I had to 00:24:25.009 --> 00:24:28.430 look it up. Gradually and gently distill. I had 00:24:28.430 --> 00:24:30.750 to look that word up. Distillation is a slow 00:24:30.750 --> 00:24:33.990 purification process. This is not an explosion, 00:24:34.990 --> 00:24:37.529 okay? It's not detonation, it's distillation. 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:43.680 Okay, so it's a slow purification process. It's 00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:46.240 not a lightning bolt. It's heat applied over 00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:49.819 time, vapor rising, condensation forming, and 00:24:49.819 --> 00:24:52.279 what you're left with is something clearer and 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:54.579 more refined. You know, I love what Elder Bednar 00:24:54.579 --> 00:24:58.279 said where he says, revelation gradually and 00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:00.579 gently distills upon our soul. That means most 00:25:00.579 --> 00:25:03.299 of the time Jesus isn't downloading truth to 00:25:03.299 --> 00:25:06.259 us in dramatic moments, right? We're not plugging 00:25:06.259 --> 00:25:08.519 in a USB and then all of a sudden we're getting 00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:11.599 this download or something. He's refining us 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:15.680 quietly. Just quietly. In the stillness and the 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:19.099 small and simple things. Over time. Layer by 00:25:19.099 --> 00:25:22.119 layer. Sometimes we don't even realize we're 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:24.019 changing until we look back and see that we're 00:25:24.019 --> 00:25:27.220 not who we used to be. And that has been my experience. 00:25:27.299 --> 00:25:29.440 I think that's an important reason to journal. 00:25:29.950 --> 00:25:31.730 Oh, because there's been times I've picked up 00:25:31.730 --> 00:25:33.710 an old journal and I'm terrible at it. I am just 00:25:33.710 --> 00:25:35.829 telling on myself right now I have been to but 00:25:35.829 --> 00:25:37.789 I there have been times I picked up my journal 00:25:37.789 --> 00:25:41.529 and I'm like, wow Yeah, that's an old version 00:25:41.529 --> 00:25:44.750 of Deb. I when I was first Several years ago 00:25:44.750 --> 00:25:46.450 when I was called to be the elders corn president 00:25:46.450 --> 00:25:48.990 our next -door neighbor and close friend Yeah, 00:25:49.150 --> 00:25:52.690 he Ron Bishop Warren was our bishop at the time 00:25:52.690 --> 00:25:56.250 and he gave me some wise advice He counseled 00:25:56.250 --> 00:25:59.640 me to keep a spiritual journal During that period 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:02.579 of time and I and I did off and on I'm glad for 00:26:02.579 --> 00:26:05.519 the moments that I did Wish I would have more 00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:07.559 but I'm glad for the moments that I did because 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:10.220 those are definitely Points of spiritual strength 00:26:10.220 --> 00:26:12.359 for me and and so, you know, maybe it that's 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:15.599 a good thing for us to consider doing Yeah, it's 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:17.640 just keeping track of those I think that if we 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.200 do we're focusing and what we focus on expands, 00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:23.140 right? So we'll get more if we focus on it more. 00:26:23.299 --> 00:26:25.769 Well, and I think it's I mean, you said something 00:26:25.769 --> 00:26:28.130 that made me think when you said, we just want 00:26:28.130 --> 00:26:31.230 instant downloads, you know, with AI now, I used 00:26:31.230 --> 00:26:33.750 to, when I was in young women's before, I used 00:26:33.750 --> 00:26:36.569 to say, you can't Google a testimony. I mean, 00:26:36.569 --> 00:26:38.950 you can Google what it is and you can't AI a 00:26:38.950 --> 00:26:42.029 testimony. You can't, you know, you can put all 00:26:42.029 --> 00:26:44.809 the information you want, but it isn't until 00:26:44.809 --> 00:26:48.049 you're still and you allow the spirit of the 00:26:48.049 --> 00:26:51.670 Holy ghost to testify of the father and of the 00:26:51.670 --> 00:26:55.809 son. Yeah. And it's, it's in those quiet, unplugged 00:26:55.809 --> 00:27:01.289 moments, not with downloads, not with, you know, 00:27:01.329 --> 00:27:05.609 the, I mean, AI is wonderful and can offer so 00:27:05.609 --> 00:27:09.190 much information, but we sometimes forget who 00:27:09.190 --> 00:27:14.630 we are in our testimony and in our, in our conviction 00:27:14.630 --> 00:27:19.690 of our own knowledge because of the downloads 00:27:19.690 --> 00:27:22.839 of the spirit. And when I get my major downloads, 00:27:23.059 --> 00:27:25.440 it's in the celestial room. Yeah, really? Yeah. 00:27:25.660 --> 00:27:27.940 I get them there. And the shower, oddly enough. 00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:31.819 Those two places. I have a close friend who says 00:27:31.819 --> 00:27:34.220 the same thing. He gets them in the shower as 00:27:34.220 --> 00:27:37.150 well. Yeah, shower in the temple. Those are my 00:27:37.150 --> 00:27:38.710 two downloads. I knew I was going to be the Young 00:27:38.710 --> 00:27:40.690 Women's President before I got called, and it 00:27:40.690 --> 00:27:43.650 came to me in the shower. And I stopped and I 00:27:43.650 --> 00:27:45.990 looked up in the sky and I was like, oh, you've 00:27:45.990 --> 00:27:49.410 got to be kidding me. But yeah, no, the shower 00:27:49.410 --> 00:27:52.069 in the celestial room. Well, I do know this, 00:27:52.210 --> 00:27:55.839 that it comes, you know, little by little. Right, 00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:01.200 line upon line, precept upon precept, small and 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:03.420 simple things, doctrine and covenant, section 00:28:03.420 --> 00:28:07.839 50 reminds us of that as well in verse 24. That 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:10.859 which is of God is light, and he that receiveth 00:28:10.859 --> 00:28:14.960 light and continueth in God, that's important, 00:28:15.619 --> 00:28:18.119 receiveth more light, and that light groweth 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:21.259 brighter and brighter until the perfect day. 00:28:22.420 --> 00:28:26.960 It doesn't say, Flash bang you got it right it 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.140 grows brighter and brighter until the perfect 00:28:30.140 --> 00:28:33.240 day You know that reminds me years ago. I went 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:38.539 to Maui to visit my dear friend Michelle and 00:28:38.539 --> 00:28:41.339 She took me up to the top of Haleakala to watch 00:28:41.339 --> 00:28:44.400 the sunrise We left it like 3 30 in the morning 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.460 4 o 'clock in the morning to drive up there And 00:28:46.460 --> 00:28:49.339 it's the highest mountain on that in Maui, and 00:28:49.339 --> 00:28:51.920 it was freezing cold and dark. I mean I was wearing 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:55.890 a coat And I remember standing on the top of 00:28:55.890 --> 00:28:59.849 that volcano, watching and waiting for a sunrise. 00:29:01.109 --> 00:29:04.789 And it was interesting because as soon as this, 00:29:04.789 --> 00:29:08.750 the horizon got a little bit light, there were 00:29:08.750 --> 00:29:12.789 tons of people up there. It got silent. Like 00:29:12.789 --> 00:29:14.769 everybody was just, you know, they were talking, 00:29:14.869 --> 00:29:16.630 talking, talking, talking until there was a little 00:29:16.630 --> 00:29:19.890 bit of light and then there was silence. Like 00:29:19.890 --> 00:29:23.140 whispering. And then as it got a little bit lighter, 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:28.240 it got silent. Like nobody was talking. And then 00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:32.259 there was this moment where that sun broke that 00:29:32.259 --> 00:29:35.920 horizon, that little teeny tiny light. And there 00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:42.500 was a native Hawaiian up there singing in the 00:29:42.500 --> 00:29:44.220 Hawaiian language. I don't know what language 00:29:44.220 --> 00:29:49.519 she was singing this honoring that the sun came. 00:29:49.740 --> 00:29:54.539 And I sat there weeping, thinking this happens 00:29:54.539 --> 00:30:00.279 every single day. Then I take that sunrise for 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.599 granted that this little miracle and because 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:05.880 it was such a sacred experience for not just 00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:09.539 me, but everybody that was present. I mean, literally 00:30:09.539 --> 00:30:15.000 it got sacredly silent, like so quiet. And then 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.380 as soon as it came, like she just started chanting, 00:30:18.700 --> 00:30:23.210 singing this honor of the sunrise. And I have 00:30:23.210 --> 00:30:25.269 never had a more spiritual, I shouldn't say never, 00:30:25.289 --> 00:30:28.670 but that was quite a spiritual experience that 00:30:28.670 --> 00:30:31.710 I'll never forget. And anytime I see a sunrise, 00:30:32.089 --> 00:30:35.650 I think that's a miracle. Every day that light 00:30:35.650 --> 00:30:42.490 is consistent. As you're talking about that, 00:30:42.529 --> 00:30:45.930 you know, I'm thinking about How things just 00:30:45.930 --> 00:30:48.630 come a little bit at a time sometimes, right? 00:30:48.970 --> 00:30:52.670 And and and again that this whole idea that it 00:30:52.670 --> 00:30:54.690 doesn't have to be big It doesn't have to be 00:30:54.690 --> 00:30:57.349 loud, etc. This is actually from page 68 in the 00:30:57.349 --> 00:31:00.750 big book of alcoholics anonymous We trust infinite 00:31:00.750 --> 00:31:03.650 God rather than our finite selves. We're in the 00:31:03.650 --> 00:31:06.970 world to play the role he assigns Just to the 00:31:06.970 --> 00:31:09.930 extent that we do as we think he would have us 00:31:09.930 --> 00:31:14.289 and humbly rely on him Does he enable us to match? 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:20.960 calamity with serenity. Serenity. Wow, that's 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:24.859 peace. And that's where I find him. More often 00:31:24.859 --> 00:31:27.839 than not now, you know, more often than not, 00:31:28.019 --> 00:31:32.480 that's where I find him. I just think of, you 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:36.619 know, Matthew 11, 28, come unto me, all you that 00:31:36.619 --> 00:31:38.460 lay burn or heavy laden, and I will give you 00:31:38.460 --> 00:31:42.200 rest. And then he says, my yoke is easy and my 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.400 burden is light. Take my yoke upon you for my 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.640 yoke is easy and my burden is light. His burden 00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:49.799 doesn't seem light sometimes. It's because you're 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.319 carrying too much. Well, and I think it's because 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.160 because, you know, maybe we're trying to carry 00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:58.160 something that he doesn't ask us to carry. Oh, 00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.920 yeah. I pick stuff up. Yeah. I mean, I'll literally 00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:04.160 pick up a boulder and then think, this isn't 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.240 for me to carry. This is his to carry. Well, 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:11.200 and even I mean, as a mom and a grandma, there's 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:13.740 I remember my mom telling me this, the more kids 00:32:13.740 --> 00:32:16.380 you have, the more you have to worry. And I thought, 00:32:16.539 --> 00:32:19.099 why worry? Quit worrying. Don't worry about me. 00:32:19.099 --> 00:32:21.680 Don't worry about. And I but I find myself picking 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.700 up the burdens of my children and my grandchildren. 00:32:24.700 --> 00:32:28.279 And I think, oh, I just, you know, help. What 00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.599 can I do? What can I and it's not. They're His, 00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:36.180 they're His. I can pray for Him and have faith 00:32:36.180 --> 00:32:40.299 that He will. Their journey is exactly what it 00:32:40.299 --> 00:32:43.680 needs to be. I can love them and I can support 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:45.940 them, but it's not mine to fix, it's not mine 00:32:45.940 --> 00:32:50.220 to carry. That's a perfect example of yoking 00:32:50.220 --> 00:32:53.279 with the Savior because it's not mine to pick 00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.440 up and I still pick it up and I catch myself 00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:59.619 and I... Do self -talk and go, Deb, this is none 00:32:59.619 --> 00:33:01.940 of your business. This is one of the things where 00:33:01.940 --> 00:33:04.339 in recovery, circles of recovery, and for those 00:33:04.339 --> 00:33:06.339 who have been around it will recognize this saying, 00:33:06.380 --> 00:33:08.720 but this is where we say let go, let God. Yes. 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.460 Yeah. Let go. It's not yours. It's his. Right. 00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:14.819 And when I remembered that, when I remember sometimes 00:33:14.819 --> 00:33:17.619 when I'm feeling overwhelmed or when I'm feeling 00:33:17.619 --> 00:33:20.160 downtrodden or when I'm feeling like I just have 00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.920 too much weight to carry myself, I need to remember 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.339 it's not my weight. Yeah. He doesn't expect me 00:33:25.339 --> 00:33:28.819 to carry that weight. Yeah, he wants me to rely 00:33:28.819 --> 00:33:32.119 on him to carry that weight and to comfort me 00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:34.920 and bless me and calm me as I go through it I 00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:38.160 don't remember who said it. I think it was a 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.400 Elder president Ezra Taft Benson, but I could 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:43.839 be wrong on that. But somebody said that sometimes 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:49.700 The Savior will calm the storm But sometimes 00:33:49.700 --> 00:33:53.500 he'll let the storm rage Calm the child within 00:33:53.500 --> 00:33:56.720 the storm and that's me within the storm as long 00:33:56.720 --> 00:34:00.819 as I reach out to him and Allow him to be a part 00:34:00.819 --> 00:34:05.799 of my life again focusing on a eternal relationship 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:10.659 with him Yeah And just seeing him in the calm 00:34:10.659 --> 00:34:13.639 and the steady Look for small ways that he shows 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:17.400 up because he does Like I said before, sometimes 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.639 he's there before we even notice him. Yeah. And 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.400 sometimes the yoke, that easy yoke, doesn't necessarily 00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.460 mean that I'm carrying anything or that he's 00:34:26.460 --> 00:34:28.400 taking anything. Sometimes that yoke is just 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.219 him being by my side, just that companionship. 00:34:32.019 --> 00:34:35.820 So what a comfort, too. I mean, what a sweet, 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:41.800 peaceful message to be reminded that he's always 00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:46.159 there. Always. Yeah. He honors agency and he 00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:50.360 won't come into our lives unless we invite or 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.539 ask. Or ask, that's right. And I'm so grateful 00:34:53.539 --> 00:34:57.789 I remember that because then I... Hyper ask please 00:34:57.789 --> 00:35:01.230 please please That's the crying out. We'll talk 00:35:01.230 --> 00:35:04.150 about that in an upcoming in I was gonna say 00:35:04.150 --> 00:35:06.210 workshops I think I'm back at work We're gonna 00:35:06.210 --> 00:35:08.230 we're gonna talk about that in upcoming episodes 00:35:08.230 --> 00:35:11.289 for sure that crying out and the importance of 00:35:11.289 --> 00:35:14.590 crying out I look forward to this week. I have 00:35:14.590 --> 00:35:16.570 an opportunity to go to breakfast with one of 00:35:16.570 --> 00:35:20.340 our Institute kids who's really struggling with 00:35:20.340 --> 00:35:22.800 an issue and we're gonna talk a lot about crying 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.460 out and really understanding who we are and whose 00:35:25.460 --> 00:35:29.039 we are and and why all of That matters, you know, 00:35:29.099 --> 00:35:31.719 so maybe this week instead of just looking for 00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:35.679 what's spectacular in our lives or Maybe we just 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.119 look for what's steady Yeah, maybe we just look 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:41.019 for what's constant. Maybe we just look for small 00:35:41.019 --> 00:35:43.900 ways that he shows up You know what if it's the 00:35:43.900 --> 00:35:48.599 sunrise? Because he does I know because he does 00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:53.019 I'm grateful I'm so grateful to have that reminder 00:35:53.019 --> 00:35:56.219 today so that I can take a personal inventory 00:35:56.219 --> 00:36:00.360 and that I can focus on him and see Him in the 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.880 small and steady and simple things. Because I 00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:07.679 testify He's there. I saw Him this morning. I 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:11.199 saw Him today. I see Him right now. It's like 00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:13.659 it's just using those spiritual eyes to be able 00:36:13.659 --> 00:36:17.340 to see, my heart to feel, and my mind to know. 00:36:18.579 --> 00:36:22.940 I love Him. Me too. And I know He loves me. Me 00:36:22.940 --> 00:36:26.460 too. And Deb, honestly, there's just nothing. 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:32.460 More important to me than that Is my relationship 00:36:32.460 --> 00:36:36.039 with him? You know that a soul so rebellious 00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:39.280 and proud of my as mine could be rescued by him 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.239 And he has rescued me and he will rescue you 00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:44.960 too. I testify of that We look forward to being 00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:48.059 with you again next week until then be well