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Hey there everybody welcome out to another episode

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of redeemed through his blood. This is Scott

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Durfey as always and as always also I'm joined

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by my better half The lovely Debra Durfey.

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Hi friends. Hi Deb. Hi Well Before we get too

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far Going into this already. I just a couple

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of things I want to mention We've received a

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couple of emails recently really appreciate your

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input there your questions, etc When they're

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appropriate, we'll make them part of the podcast.

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And of course, if you send an email, make sure

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you give us permission to do that, unless you'd

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rather we didn't then let us know that as well.

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But you can email us at he redeems us at gmail

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.com. And another thing, Deb, I'm just going

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to be transparent. We've been doing this thing

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for a few years now, started with David and I,

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and now you and I have been doing it for several

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months now. And honestly, it's a lot of work.

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And you know, honestly too we do all of our own

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editing when I say we I mean me I do I do all

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of the editing, you know and and and all of that

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and I know that this would be a little more Readily

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or easily received if we were to have video and

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put it on YouTube, you know And all those other

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things we just don't have the bandwidth to do

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that Oftentimes, Deb. I find myself wondering

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Do we even continue doing this? Do we even keep

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doing what we're doing? Are we having an effect?

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Are we making a difference? And I know I'm making

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a difference in my own life and you are in yours

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and all of that. And for that reason alone, it's

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great. But I will tell you this, I've been thinking

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that almost every week lately. Okay, when should

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we wind it down? When should we be done? When

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should, you know, we kind of cap this thing off?

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Every time I do, I get an email. Every time I

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do I get a text every time I do somebody I run

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into or a friend or a cousin or a family member

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Makes a comment about that. They are definitely

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Being helped to establish and or reestablish

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or continue in or maintain a relationship with

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Heavenly Father his son and the Holy Ghost and

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I know it's helping me do that. I don't think

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our Institute students listen. It doesn't seem

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to be a thing that college kids do these days

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is listen to. It's too long for younger people.

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It's got to be about seven minutes max, you know.

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Anyway. So having said that, I'm not sure where

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I'm going with that. Maybe a little encouragement

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from y 'all's end wouldn't hurt. Maybe going

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on to our social media accounts, which are not

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super active, I admit it. I try and post once

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or twice a week. And again, there again, bandwidth

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is an issue. But if you'd like those and share

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those, and if we could just continue to have

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a good experience together, I guess that's kind

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of our goal. Well, we're a little homegrown.

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And I also feel like we're just sinners helping

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sinners. And, you know, truly, anytime we get

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feedback and people reach out individually and

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share, I really do. It humbles me. I mean, I

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think I'm just one of you. I listen to podcasts,

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too, and I'm just seeking for inspiration and

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revelation. and you know personal growth and

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I want a relationship with my I want a stronger

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relationship with my savior and my heavenly father

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it's and it's you know very rewarding to study

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to pray and to get vulnerable here has been a

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gift for me. Scary gift, but it has been a gift.

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As long as I don't know how many of you are listening.

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Just tell Scott, I don't want to know. Well,

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I look at the numbers of how many people are

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listening and I've shared that with Deb a time

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or two and she's like, ah, freaks me out. Yeah.

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I'm not a stage girl. I don't like to be front

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and center like Scott does So I'd rather be back

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behind the curtain making sure the show runs

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great. Yeah. Yeah, I For whatever that's worth.

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I am used to being on stage last week in Texas

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I spoke to almost a thousand people for two days,

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right? Yeah, it's just a and it's a lot and that

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contributes to I mean, there's just a big load

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here anyway So, you know, last week we talked

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about what we called the drift, right? And we

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kind of turned that as how easy it is sometimes

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for our focus to slide. You know, we talk a lot

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about Doctrine and Covenants, Section 6, where

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we're invited, look unto me in every thought,

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doubt not, fear not. And then we read down and

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we learn that when he's asking us to look unto

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him in every thought, he's asking us to behold

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the wounds, the prints of the nails in my hands

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and feet, et cetera. So he's asking... is to

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see him in his crucifixion or in his atonement,

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the events of the atonement. And again, I think

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that that's there to help us to know him better,

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to feel his love deeper, et cetera. But, you

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know, it kind of feels a little bit different.

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You know, today, just a little bit different.

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We don't necessarily want to talk about how to

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necessarily to correct that drift. But what happens

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what happens when life begins to feel more and

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more unsettled? And that's gonna happen to all

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of us. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because it's not subtle.

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Sometimes things don't slowly move out of alignment.

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Sometimes they just feel really unorganized.

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Yeah, unorganized. I keep coming back to that

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word unorganized. You know, this past week in

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Gospel Doctrine, we talked about the creation.

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And I love that you know we took a little bit

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different perspective this year in gospel doctrine

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as I'm trying to I've been called to teach it

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again, and as I'm teaching gospel doctrine this

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year I'm really trying to refocus on and look

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for where Jesus Christ is in the Old Testament

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wherever we can find him You know we talked about

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creation last week And this is something you

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know as we know God didn't create ex nihilo which

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means create everything from nothing. What he

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did is he and he organized it. He shaped from

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what was already there. A lot of times we'll

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call that chaos, you know, shaped from what was

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already there. Yeah, which honestly feels familiar.

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In fact, too familiar. There are seasons when

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life just doesn't feel wrong. It just feels really

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scattered. Yeah. Reminds me of that 52 card pick

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up we played as played as kids. you know asking

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your younger sibling have you ever played the

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52 card pick up and then you just flip all 52

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cards in the air and they fall all over the ground

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that's kind of how did you say you did that with

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a younger sibling Oh yeah, and maybe my older

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sibling too. You just arch the card and just

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put them up in the air and let them all fall

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down. That sounds like a great plan for a younger

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sibling. Sounds like the older siblings, what

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they would do, they'd make you pick it up. Oh,

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I picked plenty of 52 cards up. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

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and that's how it goes. That's how it goes. This

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week we don't necessarily want to talk about

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the drift not being in the drift, but we're gonna

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talk we want to talk about Kind of why it happens,

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you know rather than Fixing our environment or

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the things that we're in maybe if we could just

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understand it better maybe if we could just understand

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that sometimes even the drift as we call it and

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Not necessarily overt or even covert sin, you

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know, maybe not outward rebellion, but just a

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drift, you know, and that drift is going to happen.

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We talked about it last week, but why does it

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happen? And I think that's important for us to

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know. You felt a little drift. I felt derailed.

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I mean, I felt more than drift. I felt derailed.

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Tell us what happens. So I on Friday, I got called

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into my boss's office with the corporate attorney

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and got laid off That was my last day and I packed

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up my office and I left Didn't say goodbye to

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my team didn't it was just very sudden and very

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And I you know, I was at peace with all of it

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when it was being explained to me. I was like,

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okay All right, whatever. Where do I sign? What

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do I do? and When I left You know, I'm I'm one

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of those to be honest with you. I'm calm in crisis.

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I really am It's one of the things that I don't

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know if I've just been in so much crisis that

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I know how to stay calm and then later I will

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go into Like after I feel like supported then

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I have my breakdown, but I just I just felt like

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Okay Next, I'll go on to the next thing, but

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it has been, you know, now that it's been a few

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days and reorganizing my time and my schedule

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and not getting up and going to work and not

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running a team and not, not, you know, in my

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normal comfort zone. What do I always say? Here

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I am practicing what I preach. No comfort in

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the growing zone, no growing in the comfort zone.

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So clearly I get to experience growth. And so

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there's definitely something I get to learn from

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this derailed experience that I felt. And it's

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not just that, because within the last couple

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of months, I got released from primary president.

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We just got released from being in institute.

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We're teaching our last semester of institute,

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which we've done for the last five years. Even

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my yoga studio is like uncertain. Like it's like

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they're trying to sell it. And so I'm feeling

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like I think there's all kinds of things just

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changing right now. I could, if I really thought

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about it, I could think of it. So I'm, I'm just

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trying to look for the opportunity for growth

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right now and just sitting in the chaos. And

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I'm, I literally, you know, I'm trying to be

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still. Which is a little bit easier when I'm

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not working because I feel like I when I'm working

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I'm on the run So it's interesting. It's an interesting

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place to sit From the from the drift to the derailment

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Yeah These are things, you know last week again

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when we were talking about the drift we were

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talking about how sometimes kind of happens slowly

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And we find ourselves and we take a look around

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and we say wow I've drifted. How did I get here?

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You know, and then all of a sudden suddenly sometimes

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We just get nailed with it like you did Friday.

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Yeah, that came out of the blue. You weren't

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expecting it You know, there were some clues

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and obvious things when a company is in a certain

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Posture etc. Then there are certain clues that

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come along etc. But you were still pretty much

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Sideways with and I think there's that emotion

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between I'm okay and I'm settled. Yeah. Yes.

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So where's your clarity today? I'm okay. Yeah,

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you're okay, but where's your clarity? Do you

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know what's gonna happen tomorrow? Absolutely

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not. And that's the point. The uncertainty, I

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think, is the part that I have to talk my, like,

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to calm my angst. I literally tell myself out

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loud, you guys are gonna think I'm absolutely

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cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, but I literally have

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to tell myself, okay, just breathe. And then

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just slow down and it's like everything's gonna

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be okay. I have air to breathe. I have food to

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eat. I have a roof over my head. Everything's

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fine. But the angst inside of me, I have to like

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consciously and intentionally calm it down. Because

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the uncertainty is what brings me fear. Like

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not knowing. Okay. I'm gonna kind of go a little

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bit sideways on that one for just a minute. So

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uncertainty brings fear and not knowing. And

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I think that's true for all of us right, but

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but we can still be okay in our fear Right for

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sure. We can still feel settled in our fear.

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Sure. How do we do that? For me personally, I

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have to be still I have to be still and know

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that God's in charge. Okay, and I think it's

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a space of surrender. I think it's a space of

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that scripture that comes to me is be still and

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know that I am God because I have had numerous

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experiences where I have been in the same situation

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where there's been fear, where there has been

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uncertainty, and I just have to keep my focus

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on God has a plan and I'm part of that plan and

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I trust Him. So, I guess flipping my fear to

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faith and knowing that realistically I'm not

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in charge, but I feel like I want to be in charge.

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You know why I want to I want to be a little

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bit in control here. That's my heart. I love

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that. And this is another thing. I wasn't going

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to do this, but because it just popped into my

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mind and we've been talking a lot about this.

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But in the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous,

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there's a story in the back. And this is in the

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I'm reading from the third edition in the third

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edition. It's on page 449. And in the fourth

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edition, it's on page 417. And I'm not going

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to read the whole story, but just one. paragraph

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or just one part of a paragraph here it says

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acceptance is the answer to all my problems today

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and when I'm disturbed it's because I find some

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person place thing or situation some fact of

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my life unacceptable to me and I can find no

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serenity until I can accept that person place

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thing or situation as being exactly the way it's

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supposed to be at this moment nothing absolutely

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nothing happens in God's world by mistake Bingo.

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Yep. I love that. I love that so much. Let me

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just read the next sentence or two, too, because

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it pulls it into and makes it relatable to alcoholism.

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But we can relate this to any ism, any of our

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isms, any of our fears, any of our challenges.

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Employment ism. Unemployment ism. So until I

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could accept my alcoholism, I could not stay

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sober. Unless I accept life completely on life's

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terms, I cannot be happy. I need to concentrate

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not so much on what needs to be changed in the

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world as on what needs to be changed in me and

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my attitudes. And I would add, and who am I allowing

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to change those things in me, including and maybe

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especially my attitudes. Yeah. Well, and it's,

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you know, like sometimes it... It doesn't necessarily

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feel wrong. It just doesn't feel finished. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing,

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you know, so often, I mean, what is finished?

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I mean, truly, I guess we don't know. I mean,

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right. It'll all be good in the end. But if it's

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not good, it's not the end. Right. Right. Yeah.

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I don't know. You know, you just don't feel finished.

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I think that that's accurate because, you know,

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as I've seen this, I was at the gym. Work it

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out would when I get this text from Deb the other

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day. I just got laid off I'll call you in a couple

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hours or something. I think you said I said I

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call I'll call you when I leave I call you when

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I leave. Yeah, I didn't say a couple hours Even

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more ambiguous I might add So I'm at the gym

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I'm thinking oh my goodness, what do I do? Obviously,

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I shouldn't call her. Otherwise she would have

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said call me obviously I shouldn't go down there

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because I have another issue that could come

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into play and get us both in trouble and all

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these other things, and so I'm left with acceptance

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too, right? I didn't think of that. I mean, how

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many of us, when our spouse or our kid or somebody

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that we love or just somebody that we have some

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sort of empathetic pull towards, when they're

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going through these things, how many, we go through

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it too sometimes. And there are our own things

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that we have to reconcile, our own things that

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we have to come to grips with, et cetera, because

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there's a problem here. It creates, when things

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are unorganized, I'm gonna go back to that from

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Genesis, right? When things are unorganized,

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it feels like I've lost my rhythm. When I've

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lost my rhythm, I can't dance anyway, but when

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I've lost my rhythm, I'm a mess. Right? Yeah,

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you're just a spaghetti boy. Pretty much. You

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know, when things get unorganized like this,

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and this is a big one for me, I want answers

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and I want them now. That's because we live in

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a really fast world. And I'm a, you know, if

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it is to be it's up to me kind of guy, I was

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raised that way, and that's not a bad thing,

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but it's not all up to me. And that's where sometimes

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I have to remember. Right. So and then the other

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thing is in depth, I don't think you've done

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this, but a lot of times when we run into situations

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that challenge us, that maybe make life a little

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less predictable than we had planned for it to

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be, et cetera, we sometimes jump into self blame.

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Oh, I do that. Don't don't say I don't do that.

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That's I think that's human. And not only self

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-blame, but blame others. You know, it's like,

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not only do I want to point the finger at myself,

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but I also want to point it to others too, which

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reminding that, you know, there's fingers pointing

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back to myself. So yeah, blame is an interesting

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dynamic. That's one of the first ones. What I

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should have done, what you should have done,

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what they should have done. I mean, it's, you

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know. Blame is a big one. How do you sit with

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this uncertainty then? Well, I'm really uncomfortable.

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Yeah. I am really uncomfortable. Yeah. Yeah.

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And I've been uncomfortable before. We've all

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been uncomfortable before. We'll all have. And

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you'll get another opportunity at some point

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in the future to be uncomfortable. Oh, there's

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nothing more consistent than discomfort, AKA

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change. Right. Yeah. Right. But, but, but, you

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know, I got to remember. So when I'm feeling

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this discomfort, when I'm feeling this change,

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when I'm feeling things that are just out of

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whack or out of the ordinary or however you want

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to term it in my life, I need to remember what

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we taught or what we learned last week in gospel

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doctrine. And that is God creates from chaos.

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He'll take what's unorganized. He'll take what's

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Chaotic he'll take what doesn't make sense or

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seem reasonable or beautiful or any of that to

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us But if we allow him to do it and he does it

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through his son Jesus Christ and through his

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atonement Christ's atonement But but but if we'll

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allow him to Create from the chaos in our lives

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then when it's done and that season ends It will

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be as like he said in Genesis 2 it is good. Yeah,

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it is good and I like when he says at the end

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of one of those, and if I had my scriptures in

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front of me, I could tell you, when he was completely

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done and he said, it is very good. That's the

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piece that it's like, you know, because not only

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does he like chaos, he likes mess. And I think

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for me, oftentimes, it's important for me to

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be okay in the chaos and the mess. And to get

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comfortable in that is hard. I do a lot of yoga.

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I'm gonna go five, six, seven, eight. Well, okay,

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so now that you bring that up, I mean, let's

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talk about that. How do we get comfortable in

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the chaos and in the mess? So you just talked

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about something that maybe in a Sunday school

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class or in a gospel doctrine setting or something

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like that, you know, if you asked, okay, how

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do you get comfortable in the chaos? How do you

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get comfortable in the uncertainty? And maybe

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comfortable is not the right word. Maybe just

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settled. Yeah, it's not comfortable. Whatever

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vernacular feels comfortable or suits you then

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use it but because we're not we're not saying

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this is a you know lollipops and and bubble gum

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and butterflies and jumping jacks and rainbows

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and all of that you know this we're talking about

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really having Challenges and you know and and

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let's be honest. Let's put it in perspective

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your job Situation changes not the end of our

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world, right? It's not we weren't diagnosed with

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a Neither one of us were diagnosed with a terminal

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disease neither one of us had an accident that's

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dismembering or disfiguring neither one of us

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lost our life or one of you know, I mean there's

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so many other things if we put it in the grand

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scheme of things and keep it in perspective it's

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it's not it's it's not a a situation that should

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wreck our mortality. It just happens. For sure,

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for sure. Stuff like this just happens. And it's

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supposed to happen. These kinds of things are

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supposed to happen. And diagnosis and other things

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like that. Death. I mean, we've had a lot of

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that around us lately. Yeah. That is part of

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this mess. That is part of this chaos. It's part

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of, you know, the fall is part of what we're

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experiencing here. Yeah, so and again getting

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back to the creation story. He didn't get rid

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of the chaos He didn't get rid of the unorganized

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right? He didn't wait for everything to come

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into order. He worked with what was already there

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and through his power Right through his power.

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He was able to organize this and began to work

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in disorder And you know, so when I think of

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that, I often think Actually, I don't often think

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so I haven't often thought about this but today

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I think when I think of that today I think well

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You know if God begins his work in disorder in

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the creation maybe disorder is not necessarily

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a disqualification for his love for me or his

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willingness to work with me or his Ability to

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be with me. He's a creator, you know I think

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he just likes to put things in order and I think

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he I think for me I think of that the primary

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song, I'm a child of God, because I think my

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plea right now is, okay God, I'm willing to do

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whatever, but lead me and guide me and walk beside

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me. You just show me, and you know, to exercise

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my personal revelation, to hear Him, and to know

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what His will is for me, is definitely, you know,

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that space of surrender. I do know one thing,

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that this is the world that we were sent to.

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Oh, for sure. No accidents. This is intended

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for our experience here. I know, and I'm among

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you, that we want to have life just be easy breezy

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all the time. And I would love that too. What

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would we learn, for real? And for that reason,

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when I really come to myself and have a spiritual

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experience with that statement, then I realize,

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yeah, I really don't want to learn that way.

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Well, and right now, being in the unsettled,

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I don't want to be here, but because of my past

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experience, I know that it will all work out,

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that God's in charge. So that's what... gives

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me hope right now in this unsettled feeling,

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in this piece of, I don't like this. I mean,

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I'm not gonna lie, I don't like it. And I can

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future trip. I can start thinking about, oh crap,

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what about this? What about that? Oh, what am

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I gonna do about this? I mean, there's future

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tripping that goes on. And then I just go, Deb,

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you're not in charge. It is not for, I mean,

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I need to listen. I need to be still. I need

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to remember that my will and his will, when aligned,

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will have peace, even in the chaos. Yeah. Even

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in the chaos. And sometimes when I see peace

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in the chaos, that's when it's even more pronounced

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to me. Oh, that's the miracles, the daily miracles.

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Right. One hundred percent, the daily miracles.

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I love, and I mentioned this earlier in the episode,

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but I'm going to talk about it. This is in Doctrine

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and Covenants chapter. We don't have chapters

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in the Doctrine and Covenants. There are sections.

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This is his Doctrine and Covenants chapter there

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again section 6 We're gonna start in verse 36.

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This is the Savior. He says look unto me in every

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thought doubt not fear not so Deb Maybe just

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push pause right there. Would you say that potentially

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there could be fear in your situation? Oh 100

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% could there be doubt in your situation? Yes.

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So what is the anecdote according to the scripture

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for fear and doubt? To look unto him into every

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in every thought now now David used to say practice

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for me Yeah, but I I have so I have some thoughts

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around that and then I'll read this the whole

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scripture again But when when we're invited to

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look unto him and every thought I don't think

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that that for me let me put it this way because

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for me gospel by Scott Well, it's not even gospel,

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it's just logic and it's just a technique that

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I try to use. But when I think of doubt or when

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I think of look unto me in every thought, for

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me that doesn't necessarily mean that I am thinking

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Jesus in every moment. I mean, hopefully I am

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in my background apps. I don't know how else

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to put that. Hopefully in my background, you

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know, my life is aligned with him and it is influencing

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my every thought. So, you know, for me, when

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I think of look unto me in every thought, it's

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look to him, looking to him, and when do I look

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to him? In everything. And so not just my thinking,

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but my actions, my behaviors, my attitudes, everything.

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So look unto me in every thought, doubt not,

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fear not. And then he tells us how to do that.

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Behold the wounds which pierced my side and also

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the prints of the nails in my hands and feet.

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Be faithful and keep my commandments and you

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shall inherit the kingdom of heaven. Well, there's

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my answer. Well, that's the answer to all of

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us. Exactly. Exactly. You know what I just thought

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of when you were reading that is, you know, when

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the scripture about how he suffered afflictions.

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pains and afflictions of all kinds. And I just

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think, he knows what this feels like. He knows

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what this feels like. And I'm not alone. When

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he invites us to look unto him in every thought,

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it's literally every thought. It's literally

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every situation in our life. And so when we feel

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drift, We need to know that the drift is not

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sin necessarily. We need to know that the drift

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is part of being part of mortality, is part of

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the plan. We know that it came about because

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we talked a little bit about the fall of Adam

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and Eve last week and it came about because of

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the fall. We know that it again creates a loss

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of rhythm. It creates a lot of potential self

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-blame. It creates a lot of potential uncertainty

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and all of those kinds of things. But if we remember

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a couple of things. If we remember that as we

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look unto Him in every thought that we also remember

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He's aware of all of this. You know, I think

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it's important also to remember Because I was

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having a conversation the other day with a friend

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about this About I'm doing everything right.

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Why is this happening to me? I've been faithful.

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I've been doing all this thing and I had that

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belief system at one time that You know, I was

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feeling like I was having a job experience with,

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I go to church, I pay my tithing, I go to the

00:29:01.140 --> 00:29:06.980
checkbox mentality of I'm doing everything right.

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Why do bad things happen to good people? And

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I think it's important to remember for me that

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this isn't, God trusts me with this chaos. God

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trusts me with this unsettlement. He trusts that

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I will come to Him in every thought. I'm not

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gonna do a perfect, but He trusts, you know what

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I mean? It's like we get these challenges, we

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get these experiences for our good. It's not

00:29:36.859 --> 00:29:39.779
for our bad. It's not punishing us. And I think

00:29:39.779 --> 00:29:43.339
it's important to remember that, that it's for

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our growth and for our experience. This is going

00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:52.049
to make me stronger. Yeah, I agree with that

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another thing though. I think is sometimes When

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we fill these seasons change in our lives And

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this is just a seizing season that you're going

00:30:01.690 --> 00:30:04.230
through that we're going through It's just a

00:30:04.230 --> 00:30:06.490
season the season will end and we'll be in a

00:30:06.490 --> 00:30:08.589
new season yet again And there are all these

00:30:08.589 --> 00:30:11.430
overlapping seasons in our lives at the same

00:30:11.430 --> 00:30:13.910
time, you know, we're in the season of gram grandparenthood

00:30:13.910 --> 00:30:15.970
well, we still are in a little bit of the season

00:30:15.970 --> 00:30:19.089
of raising kids to you know, cuz You never quit

00:30:19.089 --> 00:30:20.970
raising your adult kids apparently. They don't

00:30:20.970 --> 00:30:26.349
like it. It just feels like lifetimes. It feels

00:30:26.349 --> 00:30:28.930
like that was my first lifetime as a child. That

00:30:28.930 --> 00:30:32.569
was my second lifetime raising my children. That

00:30:32.569 --> 00:30:36.190
was the third lifetime, you know, being a grandparent

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and, you know, and I feel like we live lifetimes.

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And I think my point is, is sometimes it's really

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difficult for us to make sense of it. Initially,

00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:48.279
especially. And so he doesn't wait for things

00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:51.299
to make sense before he comes close. He comes

00:30:51.299 --> 00:30:54.460
close at our invitation. He comes close because

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of our relationship. He doesn't wait. And just

00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:00.839
because we're going through a hard time, I think

00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:04.740
that you mentioned this. I have a little bit

00:31:04.740 --> 00:31:07.119
of a difficulty with the scripture in the Doctrine

00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.980
and Covenants. And it's Doctrine and Covenants

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8210 where it says, I the Lord am bound when

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you do what I say, but when you do not what I

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say, you have no promise. And so sometimes when

00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:20.319
that season comes to me, and I'm feeling difficulty

00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.299
in my life, it's easy for me to be self -indicted

00:31:23.299 --> 00:31:26.039
again because of things like that. Now I need

00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:28.779
to remember and take things in context, not out

00:31:28.779 --> 00:31:31.920
of context, and remember that it is my relationship

00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:34.440
through Him that qualifies me for the blessings,

00:31:35.779 --> 00:31:40.900
and alignment means doing what He says, and He

00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:42.539
never told me that it was gonna be easy, and

00:31:42.539 --> 00:31:46.460
I need to remember that. Yeah. I just remember...

00:31:46.650 --> 00:31:50.089
years ago when my challenges felt like punishments.

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And I think it's important. I feel like I know

00:31:55.029 --> 00:31:58.150
now that it's not that punishment, but I don't

00:31:58.150 --> 00:32:02.130
want God to think I'm that tough. Sometimes I

00:32:02.130 --> 00:32:05.650
don't feel strong. And it's like, okay, I guess

00:32:05.650 --> 00:32:10.130
I get to rely on Him who is strong. Yeah. That's

00:32:10.130 --> 00:32:12.309
the whole point. I know. It's really the whole

00:32:12.309 --> 00:32:15.269
point. That's the whole point of mortality is

00:32:15.269 --> 00:32:17.910
for us to go through the events of the fall,

00:32:18.410 --> 00:32:21.509
to fill the effects of the fall. It's the second

00:32:21.509 --> 00:32:24.529
pillar of eternity. We went through the creation

00:32:24.529 --> 00:32:27.369
where chaos was organized. Now we go through

00:32:27.369 --> 00:32:29.289
the fall and we feel the effects of the fall

00:32:29.289 --> 00:32:31.910
of Adam and Eve in our everyday lives. And it

00:32:31.910 --> 00:32:34.690
doesn't just mean sin, it means drift. It means

00:32:34.690 --> 00:32:38.009
intense. Chaos. Chaos. It means surprises. It

00:32:38.009 --> 00:32:40.509
means all of that. And when we are in that, it

00:32:40.509 --> 00:32:43.470
doesn't mean that he has stepped away from us.

00:32:43.470 --> 00:32:46.190
It means that there's a deeper invitation in

00:32:46.190 --> 00:32:49.690
that experience for us to come yet even closer.

00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.119
to him however sometimes we get confused because

00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:58.099
we hear the accuser in our lives telling us start

00:32:58.099 --> 00:33:00.460
the blame game exactly this is all your fault

00:33:00.460 --> 00:33:01.920
if you would have this or if you would have been

00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:04.099
more of this or if you were better at that and

00:33:04.099 --> 00:33:06.619
and on and on so you know what if what if what

00:33:06.619 --> 00:33:09.940
if we were in a season Like we are at any given

00:33:09.940 --> 00:33:12.420
time in our lives, and we don't really quite

00:33:12.420 --> 00:33:14.799
understand it. What if that doesn't necessarily

00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.599
need interpretation yet? What if we just need

00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.819
to just be in it and let him reveal to us rather

00:33:20.819 --> 00:33:23.339
than just take the bull by the horns boat, so

00:33:23.339 --> 00:33:25.279
to speak, and then be a bull in the china closet,

00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:27.220
so to speak, and just take it into art, which

00:33:27.220 --> 00:33:31.799
I tend to do. But what if, what if it just needs

00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:36.059
Christ in it? Oh, 100 % needs Christ in it. Every

00:33:36.059 --> 00:33:41.309
thought. come unto me in every thought. And there's

00:33:41.309 --> 00:33:45.930
nothing, you know, excluded. And I think again,

00:33:46.029 --> 00:33:51.230
it's that, for me, it's that be still. Because

00:33:51.230 --> 00:33:56.230
when I'm still, when I commune with Him, back

00:33:56.230 --> 00:33:59.349
to my favourite hymn, O may my soul commune with

00:33:59.349 --> 00:34:04.349
thee and find thy holy peace, I'm just so grateful

00:34:04.349 --> 00:34:07.519
because... Thank heavens I've had some experience

00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:11.699
with this in the past. I have some examples of

00:34:11.699 --> 00:34:15.559
where my life has become chaos, and I'm afraid,

00:34:15.659 --> 00:34:19.739
and I have seen where God has stepped in and

00:34:19.739 --> 00:34:23.800
blessed me abundantly. And I know He will do

00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:27.280
that. I know He's there. I know He will hear

00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:31.179
and answer my prayers. There's no doubt. I don't

00:34:31.179 --> 00:34:34.449
have doubt of that today. Thank heavens. because

00:34:34.449 --> 00:34:36.769
I have in the past but today I don't have that

00:34:36.769 --> 00:34:40.210
doubt and I'm grateful that in the stillness

00:34:40.210 --> 00:34:44.769
that I can find peace that I really can find

00:34:44.769 --> 00:34:48.769
joy in the chaos in the derailment and I know

00:34:48.769 --> 00:34:53.250
that as I welcome him into my heart and into

00:34:53.250 --> 00:34:57.769
my life that I will feel him that he will be

00:34:57.769 --> 00:35:01.869
with me and I know he will lead and guide me

00:35:01.869 --> 00:35:04.849
to the next best thing for my highest and greatest

00:35:04.849 --> 00:35:11.400
good. No doubt. In fact, I testify of that. Well

00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:16.119
here we are another season another of life another

00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:19.579
opportunity for growth And we know that many

00:35:19.579 --> 00:35:22.880
of you our listeners are in very similar situations

00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:26.000
And we also know that many of you are in much

00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:30.500
dire much more challenging situations than the

00:35:30.500 --> 00:35:32.679
one that we find ourselves in. Our life's not

00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:36.500
gonna change much. We'll be fine. Heavenly Father's

00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:40.119
blessed us and continues to bless us and will

00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:44.780
continue to bless us, I know. But we know that

00:35:44.780 --> 00:35:47.239
many of you are like, I wish that was my biggest

00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.570
problem. was just getting laid off. I wish that

00:35:50.570 --> 00:35:53.969
my biggest problem was just that, you know? And

00:35:53.969 --> 00:35:58.710
so we get that. Our hope here today is not to

00:35:58.710 --> 00:36:02.750
draw comparisons, not to create situations where

00:36:02.750 --> 00:36:07.250
we measure our challenges against each other

00:36:07.250 --> 00:36:11.159
or anything along those lines. I think... Our

00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:15.019
real effort and our real are what we really want

00:36:15.019 --> 00:36:17.900
to have us all Understand today is that this

00:36:17.900 --> 00:36:20.619
is the world that we were sent to it's not a

00:36:20.619 --> 00:36:23.980
surprise He's not surprised by any of the challenges

00:36:23.980 --> 00:36:25.980
that we're going through. He's seen him already

00:36:25.980 --> 00:36:28.139
He knows how they're gonna end he sees the beginning

00:36:28.139 --> 00:36:31.800
from the end and he's felt them, right? And and

00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:35.059
he didn't avoid it. He entered it He entered

00:36:35.059 --> 00:36:37.639
into that feeling and he did that for me. He

00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:39.539
did that for you. He did that for each one of

00:36:39.539 --> 00:36:42.710
our individual listeners individually, and he

00:36:42.710 --> 00:36:45.949
did it for all of us also collectively. And I

00:36:45.949 --> 00:36:49.050
think as we go through this week and think about

00:36:49.050 --> 00:36:51.269
and contemplate the things that potentially we've

00:36:51.269 --> 00:36:55.110
talked about here today and just create an invitation,

00:36:55.550 --> 00:36:59.469
a place where he can be there, where he can come

00:36:59.469 --> 00:37:02.489
in and be in our challenges. And I think the

00:37:02.489 --> 00:37:04.590
first step to doing that is invite him in to

00:37:04.590 --> 00:37:06.920
ask him in. Thanks for being with us everybody.

00:37:07.139 --> 00:37:08.800
We look forward to being with you again next

00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:10.280
week and until then, be well.
