WEBVTT 00:00:02.160 --> 00:00:06.000 Hey everybody Scott and Deb here Happy New Year 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:10.980 Can you believe that This this is redeemed through 00:00:10.980 --> 00:00:13.779 his blood Scott and Debra Durfey here as always 00:00:13.779 --> 00:00:16.980 we just want to welcome you I'm just gonna mention 00:00:16.980 --> 00:00:18.940 this and probably we're not gonna beat this up 00:00:18.940 --> 00:00:21.699 and talk about it a lot But you can't find us 00:00:21.699 --> 00:00:24.440 on social media. We'd appreciate it if you'd 00:00:24.300 --> 00:00:27.500 When you did, you'd like it and share it and 00:00:27.500 --> 00:00:31.480 follow it. We get as much word about the podcast 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:34.140 out as we can. But only if it's helping you. 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:36.859 We appreciate that. If it's not helping you, 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:40.079 I'm not sure why you're still listening. Push 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:42.200 stop. But you're listening. Find another one. 00:00:42.219 --> 00:00:46.159 I know that it is. And if you have suggestions, 00:00:46.299 --> 00:00:48.899 questions, ever, anything like that, don't forget 00:00:48.899 --> 00:00:52.600 that you can reach us at he redeems us at gmail 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:57.990 .com. So Deb, here we are, new year. How are 00:00:57.990 --> 00:01:00.490 those new year resolutions coming for you? I 00:01:00.490 --> 00:01:03.469 don't set them. We talked about that, didn't 00:01:03.469 --> 00:01:06.370 we? I call it a new beginning and I have a new 00:01:06.370 --> 00:01:08.170 beginning every single day when the sun comes 00:01:08.170 --> 00:01:11.269 up. I've loved this new beginning concept to 00:01:11.269 --> 00:01:15.129 several folks that I know and work with closely. 00:01:15.790 --> 00:01:18.230 Alcoholics anonymous for example are kind of 00:01:18.230 --> 00:01:20.230 doing a new beginning, you know working the steps 00:01:20.230 --> 00:01:24.349 again and having a just a cool experience I talked 00:01:24.349 --> 00:01:27.730 to a fella today that has been doing that and 00:01:27.730 --> 00:01:30.890 just had a great experience so far You know as 00:01:30.890 --> 00:01:32.769 he's been kind of working through the steps again. 00:01:32.790 --> 00:01:35.930 It's been fun new beginning I always like self 00:01:35.930 --> 00:01:39.150 -help stuff. I mean anything I can help physically 00:01:39.150 --> 00:01:41.069 mentally emotionally spiritually. I always look 00:01:41.069 --> 00:01:44.989 for areas that I can you know improve in but 00:01:44.939 --> 00:01:48.260 it doesn't have to be January 1st or 6th or 12th 00:01:48.260 --> 00:01:51.159 or it can just be any day of the year for me. 00:01:51.540 --> 00:01:55.379 But I actually do love, but it just seems like 00:01:55.379 --> 00:01:57.540 there's more availability. I mean, there's a 00:01:57.540 --> 00:02:00.620 lot more available this time of year. So it's 00:02:00.620 --> 00:02:02.040 like, Ooh, I want to read that book. Ooh, I want 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.439 to listen to that podcast. Oh, I want to go try 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:06.840 that bike, that exercise bike. Oh, I wanted to 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:10.120 go. Yeah, just whatever. There's just a lot of 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:13.379 different things I want to try out and see if 00:02:13.379 --> 00:02:17.120 I can self -improve or enjoy something more in 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:21.620 my life. You know, as we move into a new year, 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:26.120 Deb, I got to be honest with you. You know, we 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:29.199 started the Christmas season with receiving Him. 00:02:29.539 --> 00:02:31.800 You know, we talked about receiving Him. We talked 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:34.520 about how when we do, it changes our lives, makes 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.520 everything better. And we've done this for years. 00:02:37.780 --> 00:02:39.659 You know, you and I have taught this and we've 00:02:39.659 --> 00:02:43.199 taught Jesus Christ and His Atonement. Jesus 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:48.039 Christ and his atonement for for years now in 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:51.060 Institute and now here on the podcast in other 00:02:51.060 --> 00:02:56.139 ways and and You know, we've we've we have an 00:02:56.139 --> 00:02:58.960 opportunity to talk about the solution to all 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:03.199 of our problems Right him and not my words, but 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:05.460 president Nelson and many many others and my 00:03:05.460 --> 00:03:10.430 words sure but what happens when You're doing 00:03:10.430 --> 00:03:15.849 all the right things and you believe in him, 00:03:16.150 --> 00:03:18.610 you're doing what you can to follow him, you're 00:03:18.610 --> 00:03:21.189 praying, you're going to church, you're doing 00:03:21.189 --> 00:03:23.750 your come follow me stuff, but what if you don't 00:03:23.750 --> 00:03:26.810 feel him close to you? You know what I mean? 00:03:27.810 --> 00:03:32.810 So let me give you some examples. So you and 00:03:32.810 --> 00:03:37.770 I have experienced a lot of death. Recently, 00:03:37.770 --> 00:03:41.490 you know a very close friend of mine's sweet 00:03:41.490 --> 00:03:45.210 wife passed away and Another very close friend 00:03:45.210 --> 00:03:48.490 of mine passed away from an overdose and we had 00:03:48.490 --> 00:03:51.550 a brother -in -law whose mother just passed away 00:03:51.550 --> 00:03:55.650 Yesterday and and that's not all I mean my employees. 00:03:55.930 --> 00:04:00.030 That's right. Yeah was actually yeah, so There's 00:04:00.030 --> 00:04:01.750 just been so much of that and when that when 00:04:01.750 --> 00:04:05.370 that seems to be around I don't know I have felt 00:04:05.370 --> 00:04:08.659 really kind of heavy through the holidays, right? 00:04:09.379 --> 00:04:12.439 Even when we're talking about, and I don't think 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:14.780 we came right out and say this, but I think the 00:04:14.780 --> 00:04:17.079 implication was there that, you know what, Scott, 00:04:17.100 --> 00:04:19.040 if you're not feeling Jesus, it's your fault. 00:04:20.220 --> 00:04:23.480 And I think, I feel crazy that we said that, 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.000 or that I said that, or feel like that was an 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:27.959 implication. We probably didn't say that, but 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:32.300 it might have been an implication, but. But what 00:04:32.300 --> 00:04:33.699 do you do when you believe in him and you're 00:04:33.699 --> 00:04:36.319 not feeling him, you know? I'm not rebelling, 00:04:36.379 --> 00:04:39.040 I didn't walk away, I'm still praying, I still 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:43.399 believe, you know? Is that hypocrisy? Seriously, 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:45.660 I mean, I feel like a hypocrite. I teach all 00:04:45.660 --> 00:04:47.720 this stuff and it's like, Scott, your life's 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:51.480 a mess this week. Well, sometimes knowing is 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:55.600 just not enough. Yeah, right. Yeah, I don't think 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:59.480 people talk about this very much. No, no. I think 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.860 there's a lot of us that you know know when we 00:05:02.860 --> 00:05:05.959 believe and but when we can't feel the spirit 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:09.120 or see you know there's times that I kneel down 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.839 at night or I even close my eyes to pray and 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:15.519 I have to take a few deep breaths to remember 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:19.100 who I'm talking to you know it's just like I 00:05:19.100 --> 00:05:25.300 we live in a noisy fast busy world amen and I 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:29.379 When I talk to Heavenly Father, when I say my 00:05:29.379 --> 00:05:33.639 prayers, I want it to be intentional and slow 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:36.620 and deliberate so I can feel. And there are often 00:05:36.620 --> 00:05:43.220 times I don't feel. It's like, okay, you know, 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:47.180 let's slow it down a little bit more. Because 00:05:47.180 --> 00:05:49.699 I know God doesn't go in depth speed. I mean, 00:05:49.699 --> 00:05:52.639 he probably thinks you are chaotic and crazy 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:55.459 lady. Like who wants to go that hard and fast 00:05:55.459 --> 00:05:59.480 for so long? It's bananas. So I think sometimes 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:05.060 we expect, expect emotional confirmation to be 00:06:05.060 --> 00:06:10.839 constant. Ah, so that's kind of an indict. I 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:12.920 don't, I'm not saying you're indicting me, but, 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.420 but, but I feel indicted by that comment because 00:06:15.420 --> 00:06:18.680 you know why it's true for me. You know, when 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:22.259 I expect Emotional confirmation, I want it to 00:06:22.259 --> 00:06:26.199 be all the time. I want validation, spiritual 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:28.120 validation all the time. Yeah, you know when 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.860 you feel that spirit just overwhelm and you just 00:06:30.860 --> 00:06:33.040 feel it's like, that's what I want and that's 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:34.680 what I'm seeking for. Every time I kneel down, 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:37.620 every time I go to the temple, when I partake 00:06:37.620 --> 00:06:40.439 of the sacrament, when I seek for spiritual things, 00:06:40.579 --> 00:06:44.139 I want to feel that. And I don't, all the time. 00:06:44.220 --> 00:06:48.290 Not every time. No. Yeah. And so I often think 00:06:48.290 --> 00:06:52.170 that sometimes that silence or that heaviness 00:06:52.170 --> 00:06:59.689 gets misread as I'm doing something wrong. I'm 00:06:59.689 --> 00:07:02.389 not fervent enough in my praying. I'm not fervent 00:07:02.389 --> 00:07:04.949 enough in my scripture study. I haven't attended 00:07:04.949 --> 00:07:07.069 the temple enough times this month. So it's like 00:07:07.069 --> 00:07:10.009 I go to the checklist, I seriously do. Right, 00:07:10.329 --> 00:07:12.810 back to earning his grace. We're gonna talk about 00:07:12.810 --> 00:07:14.930 that in a minute, but back to kind of earning 00:07:14.930 --> 00:07:16.910 his grace. And you know what, Deb, that's actually 00:07:16.910 --> 00:07:19.410 when I start feeling all that, when I start thinking 00:07:19.410 --> 00:07:23.569 all that, the accuser pops right into me. Right, 00:07:23.629 --> 00:07:26.949 right in my head. And he starts whispering, oh 00:07:26.949 --> 00:07:29.610 Scott, you're such a hypocrite. Oh Scott, you 00:07:29.610 --> 00:07:31.329 know, you say this, but you live this way. I 00:07:31.329 --> 00:07:34.430 mean, come on, you know, what's going on? You're 00:07:34.430 --> 00:07:37.149 a hypocrite, Scott. You teach this, but you feel 00:07:37.149 --> 00:07:41.990 that. Right, right. So, but what I have realized 00:07:41.990 --> 00:07:43.949 and come to realize, and I've really spent some 00:07:43.949 --> 00:07:47.610 time with this today and yesterday and a little 00:07:47.610 --> 00:07:50.269 bit over the last several days, but what I've 00:07:50.269 --> 00:07:52.009 really come to realize, Deb, that, you know, 00:07:52.620 --> 00:07:56.120 It's not hypocrisy just because we struggle with 00:07:56.120 --> 00:08:01.339 what we believe. It's not hypocrisy, but hypocrisy, 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:04.899 in my mind, when I think about hypocrisy from 00:08:04.899 --> 00:08:08.639 a lens that I think through the lens of the atonement 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:11.839 of Jesus Christ, what I believe now is that hypocrisy 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:15.980 is pretending that I don't need him. that it's 00:08:15.980 --> 00:08:18.980 up to me to earn it. Yeah, exactly. You know, 00:08:19.379 --> 00:08:21.980 hypocrisy means I don't need Jesus because I 00:08:21.980 --> 00:08:25.500 don't believe that the fall was part of God's 00:08:25.500 --> 00:08:29.899 intended plan for my happiness, for my salvation. 00:08:31.259 --> 00:08:33.139 Even though you know, you act like you don't 00:08:33.139 --> 00:08:35.879 know. Right. Yeah. Right. I default to that. 00:08:35.899 --> 00:08:39.570 You know, the accuser, the accuser. Just because 00:08:39.570 --> 00:08:42.950 we struggle doesn't disqualify us from his spirit 00:08:42.950 --> 00:08:47.789 or from his gifts. Sometimes he likes to let 00:08:47.789 --> 00:08:50.549 us sit in our mud for a little while or dirt. 00:08:52.570 --> 00:08:55.309 That's sometimes where I learn and I hate it 00:08:55.309 --> 00:08:59.269 there. Unfortunately, I don't know if it's unfortunate. 00:08:59.330 --> 00:09:02.370 I think that there's some intent there. For sure. 00:09:02.549 --> 00:09:06.370 Honestly. I think we all struggle. You know what, 00:09:06.370 --> 00:09:09.320 I always go back to a child. I think of a little 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:11.679 tiny child learning how to put a puzzle together 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:14.480 and they're trying to put this star in this heart 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:17.559 shape and they're struggling and struggling and 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:19.940 struggling and it's like how long do you allow 00:09:19.940 --> 00:09:22.580 them to struggle or do you just do it for them 00:09:22.580 --> 00:09:26.700 and you know we have a God that will not violate 00:09:26.700 --> 00:09:30.879 our agency and until we ask and you know I think 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:32.799 of a child an innocent child sitting on the floor 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:38.269 putting this star in this heart space until the 00:09:38.269 --> 00:09:41.330 child hands me the piece or looks at me like, 00:09:41.330 --> 00:09:46.870 help. That's when I think we would get help is 00:09:46.870 --> 00:09:50.590 when we ask. And I think he's just waiting for 00:09:50.590 --> 00:09:54.529 us to ask. Because we do struggle and we sit 00:09:54.529 --> 00:09:56.990 in our mess and we sit and try to figure it out 00:09:56.990 --> 00:09:58.570 and I'll try it this way and I'll try it over 00:09:58.570 --> 00:10:01.429 this side and under this side and on the other 00:10:01.429 --> 00:10:07.629 side. I catch myself often. trying to do stuff 00:10:07.629 --> 00:10:10.429 myself. Have you ever felt disqualified from 00:10:10.429 --> 00:10:13.009 God's love or God's grace because of a struggle? 00:10:13.509 --> 00:10:16.850 While you were in a struggle, maybe? I have. 00:10:18.049 --> 00:10:21.590 I have, yeah. I definitely have. I have felt 00:10:21.590 --> 00:10:26.330 like sometimes, and maybe this is a little bit 00:10:26.330 --> 00:10:29.070 even recently, I have felt like and sometimes 00:10:29.070 --> 00:10:31.789 still feel like that when I'm struggling, I'm 00:10:31.789 --> 00:10:35.889 disqualified. And I don't mean completely disqualified, 00:10:35.970 --> 00:10:38.830 I just mean disqualified from having the spirit 00:10:38.830 --> 00:10:42.429 with me because I'm struggling, God must be mad 00:10:42.429 --> 00:10:45.490 at me or God must want something more for me 00:10:45.490 --> 00:10:49.289 to, I don't know what I'm trying to say here, 00:10:49.309 --> 00:10:51.669 but to have pain and to go through those things. 00:10:51.950 --> 00:10:56.529 I sometimes forget that just because I'm struggling 00:10:56.529 --> 00:10:59.909 doesn't mean I'm disqualified. Does that make 00:10:59.909 --> 00:11:05.490 sense at all? You know also, I mean not only 00:11:05.490 --> 00:11:08.009 feeling like you're disqualified, but I think 00:11:08.009 --> 00:11:09.809 sometimes when I don't feel the spirit I feel 00:11:09.809 --> 00:11:12.750 like I'm rebelling like I feel like not necessarily 00:11:12.750 --> 00:11:16.549 rebelling but it's like Excuse my word, but it's 00:11:16.549 --> 00:11:18.629 like screw it. I'm not gonna try then right. 00:11:19.090 --> 00:11:22.529 I it's like go, you know, it's like I can't feel 00:11:22.529 --> 00:11:25.309 anything. Anyways, I'm Emotionless, maybe that's 00:11:25.309 --> 00:11:30.259 my menopause Maybe that's that that mature years 00:11:30.259 --> 00:11:32.740 that we get to go into. I don't know. That would 00:11:32.740 --> 00:11:35.620 be easier for me to buy into if it were only 00:11:35.620 --> 00:11:38.220 women that felt that way, but it's not. I felt 00:11:38.220 --> 00:11:39.960 that way. Maybe you're going through manopause. 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.259 Yeah, whatever. I think it's just a manifestation 00:11:43.259 --> 00:11:45.460 of the fall of Adam and Eve. For sure. Right? 00:11:46.620 --> 00:11:51.539 And anyway, the struggle's real. I mean, that's 00:11:51.539 --> 00:11:54.080 the bottom line. The struggle is real. There 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:58.120 was a... general relief society or young women's 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:00.320 or primary presidency that talked in general 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.480 conference. And she talked about how for a long 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:06.519 time she struggled to fill the spirit and she 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:09.159 had gone through, I don't know if it was depression 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.320 or some challenging times and she struggled to, 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.440 to fill the spirit. And she thought that, um, 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.120 heavenly father had abandoned her and thought 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.820 that he had, you know, left her alone and she 00:12:22.820 --> 00:12:25.960 just pleaded and kept you know praying and again 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:30.039 you know sometimes you know sitting in our mess 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:34.379 or sitting in our emotionless with no emotion 00:12:34.379 --> 00:12:38.460 or you know flatness or funk sometimes sitting 00:12:38.460 --> 00:12:42.100 in it is part of the plan and I think it's important 00:12:42.100 --> 00:12:45.620 for us to remember that we're not broken it's 00:12:45.620 --> 00:12:49.950 okay just give ourselves some grace I agree with 00:12:49.950 --> 00:12:53.669 all of that and I'm also grateful that you've 00:12:53.669 --> 00:12:55.990 taught me that and you remind me of that over 00:12:55.990 --> 00:12:57.809 and over and over again when I need it because 00:12:57.809 --> 00:13:00.269 sometimes Deb this head just gets in charge. 00:13:00.750 --> 00:13:03.529 It's the human mind, it's the fallen mind for 00:13:03.529 --> 00:13:06.830 me. And I know I'm not alone, but I know that 00:13:06.830 --> 00:13:08.889 I have felt like God's been mad at me, I know 00:13:08.889 --> 00:13:12.129 that I have felt like God's not healing me fast 00:13:12.129 --> 00:13:16.190 enough, so what the heck, and all of those things, 00:13:16.269 --> 00:13:18.889 rather than just sitting in it and asking him 00:13:18.889 --> 00:13:22.169 also to come sit in it with me. But none of this 00:13:22.169 --> 00:13:26.649 surprises him. I love, and we go to the scripture 00:13:26.649 --> 00:13:29.289 a lot, but none of this surprises him. When I 00:13:29.289 --> 00:13:31.389 go to Alma chapter, chapter seven, verse 10. 00:13:32.669 --> 00:13:34.429 I normally start with 11, but I'm gonna start 00:13:34.429 --> 00:13:36.769 with 10, because we're so close still to Christmas. 00:13:37.590 --> 00:13:40.149 And behold, he shall be born, of course talking 00:13:40.149 --> 00:13:42.809 of Jesus, of Mary at Jerusalem, which is the 00:13:42.809 --> 00:13:45.570 land of our forefathers. She being a virgin, 00:13:45.750 --> 00:13:48.669 precious in the chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed 00:13:48.669 --> 00:13:50.470 and conceived by the power of the Holy Ghost. 00:13:51.250 --> 00:13:54.590 And bring forth a son, yea, even the Son of God. 00:13:55.269 --> 00:13:58.990 That alone gives me hope. just the Son of God, 00:13:59.250 --> 00:14:02.230 just knowing that He's coming. But that hope 00:14:02.230 --> 00:14:05.230 intensifies. In fact, that hope, if I allow it 00:14:05.230 --> 00:14:09.289 to through the Spirit, becomes not just intensified, 00:14:09.629 --> 00:14:11.470 but sanctified through the Spirit of the Holy 00:14:11.470 --> 00:14:14.909 Ghost. When I understand, in verse 11, that He 00:14:14.909 --> 00:14:17.370 shall go forth suffering pains and afflictions 00:14:17.370 --> 00:14:23.220 and temptations of every single kind. It doesn't 00:14:23.220 --> 00:14:26.100 say every single, but every kind. But that's 00:14:26.100 --> 00:14:29.100 all -inclusive, that's all -encompassing. Nothing 00:14:29.100 --> 00:14:32.679 is left out, every single kind. And there's, 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:35.059 you know, Jesus knew about the stuff that we 00:14:35.059 --> 00:14:37.059 would deal with. We haven't vended anything that 00:14:37.059 --> 00:14:39.440 he forgot about or happened to leave out while 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:40.860 he was there. Well, and I think this is an important 00:14:40.860 --> 00:14:42.940 piece because I think so many times we hear, 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:45.919 I'm grateful for the atonement that he forgives 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.500 my sins. That's not all the atonement's for. 00:14:48.659 --> 00:14:52.470 I mean, when it says that he, has suffered pains 00:14:52.470 --> 00:14:55.570 and afflictions and temptations of every kind. 00:14:55.830 --> 00:14:58.470 There is nothing he is leaving out, whether it's 00:14:58.470 --> 00:15:03.330 that emotional funk or that no emotion, or I 00:15:03.330 --> 00:15:06.070 can't feel the spirit right now for two years, 00:15:06.509 --> 00:15:09.610 or I'm feeling a lot of death around me and I 00:15:09.610 --> 00:15:13.509 don't like how this feels. I don't, I mean, I'm 00:15:13.509 --> 00:15:17.090 starting to feel surreal. He has felt all of 00:15:17.090 --> 00:15:20.889 that, every kind. And I think it's so important 00:15:20.889 --> 00:15:23.929 to remember that the atonement was not just for 00:15:23.929 --> 00:15:26.649 our sins, but our afflictions and our pains. 00:15:27.549 --> 00:15:31.909 All of it. Temptations. Think about the atonement 00:15:31.909 --> 00:15:35.250 and temptations. He suffered that. And suffering 00:15:35.250 --> 00:15:38.529 pains and afflictions. And temptations of every 00:15:38.529 --> 00:15:41.330 kind. That the word might be fulfilled which 00:15:41.330 --> 00:15:44.309 saith he who will take upon him the pains. and 00:15:44.309 --> 00:15:47.149 the sicknesses of his people. Yep, there you 00:15:47.149 --> 00:15:48.990 go, even more, pains and sicknesses. All the 00:15:48.990 --> 00:15:53.149 sicknesses, not just physical, but mental, emotional, 00:15:53.789 --> 00:15:56.769 anything that separates us from the spirit of 00:15:56.769 --> 00:15:59.929 the Holy Ghost is, I will term, a sickness. And 00:15:59.929 --> 00:16:02.090 he has suffered for that. He has suffered for 00:16:02.090 --> 00:16:04.590 that separation. He has suffered for that distance. 00:16:04.669 --> 00:16:07.190 He has suffered for that gap that we often, and 00:16:07.190 --> 00:16:11.399 sometimes, and often feel. when we're in that 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:13.840 and he will take upon him death that he may loose 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:16.039 the bands of death which bind his people and 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:20.559 he will take upon him their infirmities. Why? 00:16:21.129 --> 00:16:24.429 that his bowels may be filled with mercy according 00:16:24.429 --> 00:16:27.470 to the flesh, that he may know according to the 00:16:27.470 --> 00:16:30.070 flesh how to succor his people according to their 00:16:30.070 --> 00:16:32.669 infirmities. That should put you in a state of 00:16:32.669 --> 00:16:34.750 thank you, Heavenly Father, thank you, Jesus. 00:16:35.110 --> 00:16:38.629 It should. Yeah. It should, but does it? Maybe 00:16:38.629 --> 00:16:42.909 not always, but I will tell you this. Having 00:16:42.909 --> 00:16:47.529 that scripture afloat in my mind has created 00:16:47.529 --> 00:16:51.889 a space that didn't allow panic. Right sure and 00:16:51.889 --> 00:16:55.669 it didn't allow Overwhelming feelings of despair 00:16:55.669 --> 00:16:57.970 or depression and I'm not saying that if you're 00:16:57.970 --> 00:17:00.230 feeling that that you're missing That's the whole 00:17:00.230 --> 00:17:03.070 point of this podcast is just because sometimes 00:17:03.070 --> 00:17:05.150 we're not feeling it doesn't mean it's there 00:17:05.150 --> 00:17:07.849 But he did he suffered it and he's gonna sit 00:17:07.849 --> 00:17:10.890 with me and be with me as I go through it pain 00:17:10.890 --> 00:17:13.490 Sicknesses infirmities according to the flush 00:17:13.490 --> 00:17:17.170 that he would know how to sucker us sucker means 00:17:17.170 --> 00:17:21.309 nearness before progress. What I mean by that 00:17:21.309 --> 00:17:24.910 is sucker means he is going to, I mean I think 00:17:24.910 --> 00:17:29.269 of a child being nursed, a sucker in child. That 00:17:29.269 --> 00:17:32.430 mom is going to protect and be with them, nurture 00:17:32.430 --> 00:17:39.190 and sucker them. He will be with us before, during, 00:17:39.470 --> 00:17:43.940 and after. he will be with us, and it's not predicated 00:17:43.940 --> 00:17:46.180 on where we are and what we're doing. Right, 00:17:46.380 --> 00:17:48.759 that's I think the point, right? Yeah, 100%. 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:54.400 He is there no matter what. I do believe that 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:58.220 the more closely we align with him, the more... 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:01.559 probable or the better situation we put ourselves 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:04.779 into to have the Spirit administer the blessings 00:18:04.779 --> 00:18:07.579 of Christ's atonement in our lives. But he nonetheless 00:18:07.579 --> 00:18:11.380 will succor us even before we begin to make any 00:18:11.380 --> 00:18:14.500 progress. Even when we're feeling nothing. Right, 00:18:14.900 --> 00:18:18.279 yeah. Yeah, he's succoring us. That's true. Yeah. 00:18:19.299 --> 00:18:22.420 So what does it feel like in real life? Like 00:18:22.420 --> 00:18:24.720 when we're not, when we're feeling the emotional 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:27.240 flatness or that funk, what does it feel like 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.660 when he's suckering me now and I'm not feeling? 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:34.420 Well, the one thing I know. from Alma 7 and everything 00:18:34.420 --> 00:18:36.759 else that we've talked about, you know, if I'm 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:39.420 worried about progress, if I'm worried about 00:18:39.420 --> 00:18:42.859 earning, if I'm worried about are my prayers 00:18:42.859 --> 00:18:47.319 proper, if I'm worried about, yeah, all that, 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:51.579 you know, the mentality that we often find ourselves 00:18:51.579 --> 00:18:56.779 in. But if that's my focus, I'm really focusing 00:18:56.779 --> 00:18:59.299 on the transaction, I'm looking for a transaction. 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:03.140 A vending machine. Put something in and want 00:19:03.140 --> 00:19:05.960 something out. Exactly. But if I visit Christ 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:10.460 in Gethsemane and I go there in my mind, in my 00:19:10.460 --> 00:19:14.380 heart, in my meditation, in my prayer, I go there 00:19:14.380 --> 00:19:18.529 and I be with Him. as he went through what he 00:19:18.529 --> 00:19:20.549 went through so that he could be with me to go 00:19:20.549 --> 00:19:22.529 through what I went through. I think of how it 00:19:22.529 --> 00:19:26.970 must have been for him. I was heavy for him. 00:19:27.150 --> 00:19:30.210 I was sorrowful for him. I have felt heaviness. 00:19:30.470 --> 00:19:33.049 I have felt a little bit sorrow. It would be 00:19:33.049 --> 00:19:35.390 inappropriate for me to compare it to what he 00:19:35.390 --> 00:19:37.309 went through, but he knows what I went through. 00:19:37.930 --> 00:19:40.450 Because he went through that. He had that heaviness. 00:19:40.470 --> 00:19:43.309 He had that sorrow. He even asked Heavenly Father, 00:19:43.410 --> 00:19:45.789 if it be possible, please take this away from 00:19:45.789 --> 00:19:53.279 me. But the burden wasn't lifted. Heavenly Father 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:55.619 didn't lift Christ's burden. Sometimes he's not 00:19:55.619 --> 00:19:57.839 gonna lift my burden, but what did he do? He 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:00.559 sent strength, right? Yeah, he strengthens him. 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:03.019 Gives him the strength to get through it. I think 00:20:03.019 --> 00:20:08.299 it's important to remember how the critical piece 00:20:08.299 --> 00:20:11.950 of this is all about a relationship. Not a transaction. 00:20:12.670 --> 00:20:15.509 And sometimes that relationship just means I'm 00:20:15.509 --> 00:20:19.809 just there or he's just there with me. Even when 00:20:19.809 --> 00:20:23.009 it's difficult, even when it's rainy, even when 00:20:23.009 --> 00:20:26.009 it's dark, even when it's foreboding, even when 00:20:26.009 --> 00:20:28.950 there's despair. That reminds me of a story at 00:20:28.950 --> 00:20:32.769 my dad's funeral. My cousin's husband, he was 00:20:32.769 --> 00:20:37.009 married to my cousin Sue. She passed away. and 00:20:37.009 --> 00:20:39.269 at 23 left a four month old baby and a three 00:20:39.269 --> 00:20:42.009 year old little girl, four year old little girl. 00:20:42.170 --> 00:20:46.569 I don't know. Anyways. And, and he was, um, in 00:20:46.569 --> 00:20:51.509 despair. He was mourning and frustrated and mad 00:20:51.509 --> 00:20:54.569 and just like you can only imagine. And he told 00:20:54.569 --> 00:20:57.049 me right after he said to me, he says right after 00:20:57.049 --> 00:21:02.500 Sue died, I was so just in despair. that I had, 00:21:02.700 --> 00:21:04.319 he was living with his mom at the time and he 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:06.059 says, I left the kids in there and I just went 00:21:06.059 --> 00:21:08.140 out in the field behind her house and I just 00:21:08.140 --> 00:21:11.259 started running and it was raining and it was 00:21:11.259 --> 00:21:14.200 just terrible. And he goes, I was crying and 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:17.420 I ran until I was exhausted and I stood up against 00:21:17.420 --> 00:21:20.799 a fence. I'm going to cry telling you this story. 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:25.660 And he said, your dad came up and stood by me. 00:21:25.940 --> 00:21:28.839 He said, Ron, you don't have to be here. And 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:31.359 he turns to him and he says, neither do you. 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:35.579 I'm just here with you. That was such an impactful 00:21:35.579 --> 00:21:40.299 story for me because that is what he does for 00:21:40.299 --> 00:21:43.180 me. And when I'm in my sorrow and I'm in my grief, 00:21:43.819 --> 00:21:47.769 that he will sit beside me. and he's not necessarily 00:21:47.769 --> 00:21:50.170 there to fix it at that moment or whatever, and 00:21:50.170 --> 00:21:52.710 maybe never fix it, but give me strength to know 00:21:52.710 --> 00:21:55.430 I'm not alone. And I think it's important to 00:21:55.430 --> 00:21:58.890 remember that. That story has stuck with me in 00:21:58.890 --> 00:22:03.009 my heart, just how much it meant to him. My dad 00:22:03.009 --> 00:22:04.869 wasn't there to fix anything, he was just there 00:22:04.869 --> 00:22:07.829 to be with him in his despair and his sorrow 00:22:07.829 --> 00:22:11.369 and his grief. To me, Deb, that's really grace, 00:22:11.549 --> 00:22:17.109 you know? And I knew your dad. quite well and 00:22:17.109 --> 00:22:19.150 that's how he was you know there there are people 00:22:19.150 --> 00:22:22.109 sometimes that are really an emulation of the 00:22:22.109 --> 00:22:24.490 Savior in certain aspects and in that night and 00:22:24.490 --> 00:22:27.269 that day he did I remember Rocky telling us about 00:22:27.269 --> 00:22:30.430 that and he just wept as he told us he didn't 00:22:30.430 --> 00:22:33.750 need words he didn't need advice he didn't even 00:22:33.750 --> 00:22:35.829 need somebody to touch him and hug him and hold 00:22:35.829 --> 00:22:38.650 him that's not his style he just needed somebody 00:22:38.650 --> 00:22:42.809 to be With him, but you know what but you know 00:22:42.809 --> 00:22:46.450 what rocky had the ability to do accept it and 00:22:46.450 --> 00:22:50.910 acknowledge it and Be welcoming to it and and 00:22:50.910 --> 00:22:53.470 that helps us to one again help doesn't always 00:22:53.470 --> 00:22:55.670 feel like relief It just is knowing that you're 00:22:55.670 --> 00:23:00.900 not alone. Yeah, right And enduring, sometimes 00:23:00.900 --> 00:23:03.880 we don't give ourselves any grace when we go 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:07.059 through challenges and hard things and death 00:23:07.059 --> 00:23:09.319 and watching people we love and care about bury 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:14.160 their wife and their mother and their father 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:18.019 or their friend or whatever. It's like, just 00:23:18.019 --> 00:23:20.799 give ourselves, we need to give ourselves some 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:24.099 grace. Just getting through day to day, there's 00:23:24.099 --> 00:23:27.400 heavy stuff. hard stuff and I know all of our 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:30.380 listeners are going through hard things too. 00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:35.720 Challenges, you know, of all kinds. You know, 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:39.000 and also when I look at grace, sometimes I'm 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:41.799 thinking, you know, grace, Heavenly Father has 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:45.579 grace or Jesus Christ has grace for me. He has 00:23:45.579 --> 00:23:48.759 grace for my sin. He has grace for my lack. He 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.839 has grace for my whatever the manifestation of 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:55.319 the fallen of Scott Durfee comes through. He 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:59.319 has grace for that. What I sometimes forget to 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:04.200 remember is that when I'm in something, sometimes 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:08.460 he has grace with me. And that's what I have 00:24:08.460 --> 00:24:11.200 felt. You know I haven't been super bounce off 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:14.259 the walls gregarious You know go out of my way 00:24:14.259 --> 00:24:16.440 to you know run across the street and introduce 00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:18.700 myself to a stranger kind of friendly and all 00:24:18.700 --> 00:24:21.660 that other stuff lately But I haven't necessarily 00:24:21.660 --> 00:24:25.880 been battling depression either But but I haven't 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:29.589 but but what I have known is that his grace was 00:24:29.589 --> 00:24:31.430 actually been with me. So it's not only about 00:24:31.430 --> 00:24:33.849 God doing something for us that we could do for 00:24:33.849 --> 00:24:36.109 ourselves. Sometimes it's really just kinda, 00:24:36.450 --> 00:24:39.049 I don't know, looks like God doing something 00:24:39.049 --> 00:24:44.250 more like with us that I can't do alone. Just 00:24:44.250 --> 00:24:46.890 like my dad sat with Rocky. I'm just here for 00:24:46.890 --> 00:24:49.210 you. Just didn't have to be alone. It doesn't 00:24:49.210 --> 00:24:51.609 wait for me to be ready. And I think the hard 00:24:51.609 --> 00:24:55.509 thing is we don't always see the spirit. We have 00:24:55.509 --> 00:25:00.339 to seek it. Oftentimes receiving the spirit, 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:03.920 receiving Jesus Christ can be quiet and a still 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:06.180 moment and good luck finding a still moment. 00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:13.400 And even consent over confidence. What do you 00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:15.359 mean by consent over confidence? So you mean 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:19.640 like allowing him? I think it's willing. I think 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:22.720 it's, and maybe I should say willingness. Yeah. 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:26.859 Yeah, willing. I think sometimes that's my prayer. 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:31.039 Lord, I'm willing. I'm just not feeling. Yeah. 00:25:31.380 --> 00:25:34.220 You know what? Sometimes I'm not willing. Yeah. 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:36.980 And so sometimes my prayer is, Heavenly Father, 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:39.579 just give me the willingness to be willing. Yeah, 00:25:39.859 --> 00:25:42.380 that's it. That's a fair prayer. That is a fair 00:25:42.380 --> 00:25:44.420 prayer. Yeah, that's a fair prayer. Had I not 00:25:44.420 --> 00:25:45.779 had that prayer. And it's authentic and raw. 00:25:45.980 --> 00:25:48.220 In the very beginning of my recovery journey, 00:25:48.380 --> 00:25:50.779 I'm not sure that I would have made it. I just 00:25:50.779 --> 00:25:55.539 needed the blessing of willingness. Yeah. It's 00:25:55.539 --> 00:25:57.599 a covenant word. Yeah, it's a covenant word. 00:25:57.740 --> 00:26:00.460 Where do we hear it most? Every week when we 00:26:00.460 --> 00:26:02.680 hear the sacrament be blessed that they may be 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:05.519 willing to take upon. You know, and I think about 00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:09.039 the word willing a lot because I'm like, you 00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:12.470 know, I know I'm not alone, but I often feel 00:26:12.470 --> 00:26:15.450 like this is so redundant and repetitive and 00:26:15.450 --> 00:26:19.309 so, but Heavenly Father, I am willing. I really 00:26:19.309 --> 00:26:23.009 am willing. And sometimes I'm more willing than 00:26:23.009 --> 00:26:26.190 others, but I am for the most part willing. That's 00:26:26.190 --> 00:26:29.319 a powerful word. And it's a powerful concept, 00:26:29.539 --> 00:26:32.359 this willingness, right? So when I think about 00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:33.940 willingness, I think about all the stuff that 00:26:33.940 --> 00:26:36.579 you just said, but where it originated, I think, 00:26:36.900 --> 00:26:41.559 or grew roots for me is in recovery. The third 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:46.000 step of AA is we were willing to turn our will 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:48.220 and our life over to the care of God as we understand 00:26:48.220 --> 00:26:52.670 him, willing. Just to kind of maybe Shift direction 00:26:52.670 --> 00:26:55.329 not really shift direction, but maybe change 00:26:55.329 --> 00:26:58.269 The way we talk about it for just a minute dub 00:26:58.269 --> 00:27:01.509 When I think of these things and I know we've 00:27:01.509 --> 00:27:04.970 addressed this talk before and but it and it 00:27:04.970 --> 00:27:08.569 it holds a little extra sentiment for me because 00:27:08.569 --> 00:27:12.369 of Elder Holland's passing recently, right? But 00:27:12.369 --> 00:27:15.970 I think about his talk that he gave laborers 00:27:15.970 --> 00:27:20.549 in the vineyard from April 2012. I have a little 00:27:20.549 --> 00:27:23.569 piece of that that I want to play. Again, I know 00:27:23.569 --> 00:27:27.210 we've played it before. The impact, I think, 00:27:27.829 --> 00:27:35.680 is nonetheless still equally important. however 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:39.259 many chances you think you've missed, however 00:27:39.259 --> 00:27:42.279 many mistakes you feel you've made, or talents 00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.539 you think you don't have, or distance from home 00:27:45.539 --> 00:27:48.859 and family and God you feel you have traveled, 00:27:49.619 --> 00:27:53.720 I testify that you have not traveled beyond the 00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:59.519 reach of divine love. It is not possible for 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:03.319 you to sink lower than the infinite light of 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:08.119 Christ's atonement shines. That never grows old 00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:12.059 for me, Deb. No, me either. Such a message of 00:28:12.059 --> 00:28:15.880 hope. And it's just eternal truths. Right just 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:17.920 eternal truths. I know that we all get tripped 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:23.420 up. I know that regardless of our covenant relationship 00:28:23.420 --> 00:28:28.200 regardless of our ability to Keep all the commandments 00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.740 regardless of any of that. We're all just in 00:28:31.740 --> 00:28:34.900 dire need, but we never go that far We've never 00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:39.740 I have never gone too far And he's just waiting 00:28:39.740 --> 00:28:42.650 for an invitation to sit with me Well, just a 00:28:42.650 --> 00:28:46.490 reminder, weariness is not abandonment. You're 00:28:46.490 --> 00:28:50.930 not too far gone, not behind schedule, not disqualified 00:28:50.930 --> 00:28:54.269 by discouragement, and feeling distant from Christ 00:28:54.269 --> 00:28:57.230 does not mean Christ is distant from you. That's 00:28:57.230 --> 00:28:59.349 the part of the covenant relationship I love, 00:28:59.829 --> 00:29:03.859 because I'm not perfect at it, but He is. Very, 00:29:04.460 --> 00:29:07.339 and I'm so excited because we have a lot of examples 00:29:07.339 --> 00:29:10.400 of that very thing in the Old Testament. And 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.720 as we begin our study of Come Follow Me in the 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.799 Old Testament this year, Jeremiah, Hosea, there's 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.839 so many places where we see Heavenly Father, 00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:23.380 we see Jehovah, rather, right? Yeah, yeah. the 00:29:23.380 --> 00:29:26.000 God of the New Testament, Jesus Christ, Jehovah, 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.240 pursuing those who have sinned to the end. And 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.980 we'll get to see that in our own lives if we 00:29:32.980 --> 00:29:37.400 just allow it. He's just waiting for us to invite 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.180 him in to align with it. Well, he's not gonna 00:29:40.180 --> 00:29:42.460 violate our agency. I have to remember that. 00:29:42.740 --> 00:29:45.799 I'm saying that out loud for me because it's 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:47.960 like I just... Because I always tell them I'm 00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:49.880 willing I want you with me. I want you with me 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.380 that it's just an ongoing invitation that I want 00:29:52.380 --> 00:29:56.140 you with me Forgetting that I have agency and 00:29:56.140 --> 00:29:59.859 and he knows that right and I need to ask For 00:29:59.859 --> 00:30:04.180 what I want and I need to be specific And I'm 00:30:04.180 --> 00:30:07.220 not really good at that It's being specific. 00:30:07.220 --> 00:30:10.119 Is that what you're saying? Very general. Yeah, 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:14.059 I'm very general when I ask Well where you are 00:30:14.059 --> 00:30:18.589 isn't permanent and grace works at human pace, 00:30:18.710 --> 00:30:21.849 so. And you know what, reminds me of that saying, 00:30:22.289 --> 00:30:24.630 in the end, everything will be okay, and if it's 00:30:24.630 --> 00:30:28.950 not okay, it's not the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:30:29.210 --> 00:30:32.130 You know, so often, and I think I've said this, 00:30:32.369 --> 00:30:34.710 I've probably beaten it up a lot, but you know, 00:30:34.750 --> 00:30:37.009 so often when I think about Christ being with 00:30:37.009 --> 00:30:41.039 me, sometimes receiving him doesn't. push away 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.640 all darkness. Sometimes, and we think of the 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.000 opposite because we know that he is light and 00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:50.500 we know that all light comes from him and where 00:30:50.500 --> 00:30:53.200 he is there can't be darkness, but sometimes 00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:55.420 when we feel, and that's a physical darkness, 00:30:55.579 --> 00:30:57.519 but sometimes when we feel that emotional and 00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:01.019 mental darkness, he can still be with us. He 00:31:01.019 --> 00:31:04.500 can still be with us, so sometimes it's not about 00:31:04.500 --> 00:31:07.460 just letting him, or not about him chasing away 00:31:07.460 --> 00:31:09.480 the light, but just allowing him to sit with 00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:11.740 us or be with us when it's dark in our lives. 00:31:11.940 --> 00:31:14.809 It's true. It's important for us to remember 00:31:14.809 --> 00:31:17.609 that Jesus Christ succored us because he suffered. 00:31:18.170 --> 00:31:20.789 Grace works with us, not necessarily ahead of 00:31:20.789 --> 00:31:23.730 us. We need to remember that, right? I have to 00:31:23.730 --> 00:31:25.650 keep that in my mind. And if all I can do right 00:31:25.650 --> 00:31:29.369 now is to just stay, that might actually absolutely 00:31:29.369 --> 00:31:32.490 be the most honest way that I can receive him 00:31:32.490 --> 00:31:35.849 right now. Just to stay, right? So it's okay 00:31:35.849 --> 00:31:39.569 to do that. And be willing. Yeah, and willingness, 00:31:40.210 --> 00:31:41.670 obviously, the key that turns to the ability 00:31:41.670 --> 00:31:45.690 for that to happen and creates that invitation. 00:31:46.269 --> 00:31:48.529 Well, just as a reminder, you're not failing 00:31:48.529 --> 00:31:51.009 and you're not alone. We're here with you. Loud 00:31:51.009 --> 00:31:54.710 and proud. You got that right. Well, I think 00:31:54.710 --> 00:31:56.950 that, you know, this is an important topic for 00:31:56.950 --> 00:31:59.269 us to consider and to sit with and be with throughout 00:31:59.269 --> 00:32:02.109 this week. And as we begin a new week, because, 00:32:02.230 --> 00:32:03.650 you know, we have began a new year. We talked 00:32:03.650 --> 00:32:05.670 last week about new beginnings this week. We 00:32:05.670 --> 00:32:08.769 talked about the real life story and we're going 00:32:08.769 --> 00:32:12.190 to experience both. Let's continue in our new 00:32:12.190 --> 00:32:14.609 beginning. Let's continue to receive him. Let's 00:32:14.609 --> 00:32:17.289 continue to let him. him walk with us, even when 00:32:17.289 --> 00:32:19.309 we don't feel like we need to walk with him. 00:32:19.309 --> 00:32:22.990 I know he's there and he's in my life. Even he's 00:32:22.990 --> 00:32:24.930 been in my life, even though it's been a little 00:32:24.930 --> 00:32:30.210 bit cloudy emotionally lately. Yeah. And I think 00:32:30.210 --> 00:32:33.569 it's important to give ourselves some grace, 00:32:33.710 --> 00:32:36.529 you know, when we're not feeling it or we're 00:32:36.529 --> 00:32:40.509 not, you know, participating the way we feel 00:32:40.509 --> 00:32:43.470 like, cause I put expectations on myself. And 00:32:43.470 --> 00:32:45.609 if I'm not feeling it the way that I think that 00:32:45.609 --> 00:32:47.950 I should feel it, I need to remember to give 00:32:47.950 --> 00:32:50.450 myself some grace. It's all in divine order. 00:32:50.549 --> 00:32:55.210 God's in charge. That's not my will. Thanks for 00:32:55.210 --> 00:32:58.990 being with us, everyone. We love you. We appreciate 00:32:58.990 --> 00:33:02.930 your support. And until next time. Thanks for 00:33:02.930 --> 00:33:04.289 being with us, everybody. We look forward to 00:33:04.289 --> 00:33:06.349 being with you again next week. And until then, 00:33:06.430 --> 00:33:06.750 be well.