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It's that time of year we play our Christmas

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songs and we find the perfect playlist and I

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had a Really cool experience the other day driving

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to work. I had I think it's world's best Christmas

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playlist or something I was listening to on Spotify

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and I I often hear songs I've never heard before

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as I was driving and I was listening to some

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of the words of a song that popped up it talked

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about a father's heart how he could hardly wait

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to give his children something too good to believe

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and he had been counting down the days until

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he could give him the gift and and it was the

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night before and and then he he talks about God

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is this the way you felt on Christmas Eve the

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night before you gave the greatest gift to me

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and it like pierced my heart. I was like, Whoa,

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that puts things in perspective for me. I just,

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the way that the verbiage and I had never heard

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the song before I had to, I had to go do some

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research and I was driving so I didn't get my

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phone and my phone, my car doesn't tell me what

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song it is. So I, I had just been constantly

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thinking about that verbiage of God, were you,

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was this the way you felt on Christmas Eve? just

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thinking about the anticipated birth of his son

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to the planet to give all of us the greatest

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gift on earth and that really like changed me

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and and anyway I did some research we found the

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the lyrics to this and then more of the words

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I'm like wow this is such a powerful song but

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it says You planned it out before creation, Jesus

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always on your mind, the holiest anticipation

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for a Savior in a manger. So close, it's almost

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time. Oh, the joy that's on the way, the Father's

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heart could hardly wait to give his children

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something too good to believe. I've been counting

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down the days. I wonder if you did the same the

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night before you gave the greatest gift to me.

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And I just thought, who sings this? Anyway, long

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story short, we found the artist. So if any of

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you want to find that song, it kind of changed

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my perspective on Christmas and maybe how God

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felt. You know, we think about Mary and Joseph

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and the shepherds and the wise men. And, you

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know, I haven't really pushed pause to think

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about how maybe God felt. that Christmas Eve.

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Yeah, no kidding. Well, well, and even prior

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to that, right? I when you came home the other

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day and you brought that up to me, Deb, that

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that moment kind of just reframed everything

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for me right then and there. Almost. You know

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what I mean? Yeah, you know, we talk about the

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nativity, but. And as a matter of fact, I love

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talking about the nativity. I love talking about

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the events of Christmas and all of those things.

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And David and I actually did two or three Christmases

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together where we went through and did some real

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detailed stuff around Christmas, around the nativity,

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around the wise men, around the shepherds, around

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Mary and Joseph and Simeon. And all of that.

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And I look forward to being able to this week

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in Institute do a little thing that we call,

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oh, come let us adore him, where we talk about

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some of those things. But you know, when you

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came home from, I think you were at work or wherever

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you had been, and you said, Scott, you gotta

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listen to this. I'm like, holy cow, that just

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kinda changed everything, everything for me,

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you know, because I'm not dad. I've had those

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experiences where, and I don't remember what

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they were, but I can guarantee you, if you ask

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Trevor, our oldest son, Trevor, what was a magic

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gift that you got, you know? And whatever that

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was, because he's a, pretty imaginative, right?

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Even at 38 years old, I mean, he just has this

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little kid feeling about him. And I can guarantee

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you that there was something. And whatever that

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something was, I can also guarantee you that

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we were so excited to give that to him or to

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any of the others. And I know what that feels

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like to be the giver of a gift that somebody's

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world they think is gonna change. And when we

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talk about... this season, we talk about Christ

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being a gift, and we talk about the giver of

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the gift, and when I talk about the giver of

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the gift, I'm thinking of the giver of the gift

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of the atonement of Jesus Christ, who is ultimately

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God, but I always think of Jesus Christ first,

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and this just totally reframed it for me. You

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know, in Revelations, there's a scripture, in

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Revelations, I think 13, eight, or something

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like that, that talks about how Christ's crucifixion

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was even talked about in our pre -existence.

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So it wasn't like a big surprise to Heavenly

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Father. This is a gift he had been planning to

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give to us. since the beginning of eternity.

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Yeah. You know, it made me think about, and I've

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shared this story before about Jessica talking

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about leaving the pre -existence and how she

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told me, Heavenly Father was sad when I left.

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And I just think, how sad was he when Jesus left?

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You know, I mean, not more sad. I mean, probably,

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I don't know, but it just made me reflect on

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that and just ponder, you know, we all had our

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turn to leave the pre -existence. We were all

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there. And we've all, you know, we're all coming

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here and then we'll all return back. But I just

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think, you know, what was it like when the Spirit,

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when Jesus' Spirit left and came into that manger?

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Yeah. you know, in the city of David. Right.

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And that's a big deal. But, you know, and I've

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always seen that as being a big deal and impactful.

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You know, one of the most important things that

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has ever happened in eternity, of course, was

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the Savior's Jesus Christ advent into mortality.

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But maybe, Deb, I don't know. I mean, I've got

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this has got my wills turning in my head, you

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know, first off, because You know, again, in

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Revelation 13, eight, it says the lamb was slain

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before the foundation of the world. And so God

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knew this gift was going to be given to us. And

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so, you know, when I hear us say sometimes like

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he was sad that we left and he was sad that Jesus,

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and I know what you mean by that, but I don't

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think he was sad. I think that he was joyful

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because this was the solution. This was the solution

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to our returning to him. So it was a gift to

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us that we We knew about right from the very

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beginning. Obviously, the veil creates a little

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problem for us. Right. Well, and he knew the

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whole picture, too. Exactly, the beginning from

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the end. But even knowing that he was going to

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come down here and suffer and go through the

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things that he was going to suffer, I'm sure

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he felt something. Oh, 100%. I'm sure he felt

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something. You know, it's interesting because,

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you know, our son, Bowen, is in a joint custody,

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and he's away from his son right now. His son

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is across the country. Yeah. And we had a little

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gathering on things. that was really painful

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for him. He missed his son. It was painful for

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all of us. It was painful for all of us. And

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it was one of those, you know, little moments

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that helps us remember that separation is temporary

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and not permanent. But it's separation nonetheless.

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Yes. Nonetheless. And separation can be difficult

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and painful. And, you know, that's what we feel

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here. is that separation when we talk about our

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separation from Heavenly Father coming to earth

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and and then going through all that we need to

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go through and needing a Savior to come and redeem

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us from the effects of the fall of Adam and Eve.

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I mean what greater gift is there? Oh yeah there

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isn't one and it's just like it's just like the

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verbiage in this song to give his children something

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too good to believe. I just thought there's no

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greater gift literally for all of God's children

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because that is our hope to return home. This

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isn't our home. I mean, this is a temporarily,

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you know, playground or, you know, learning ground

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or whatever in school. And, you know, we get

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to learn a lot of things here, but ultimately

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we're going to live, you know, we're going to

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go back and live with him. And, you know, even

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when Jesus Came here and then he knew the will

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of the father. I mean as an infant, you know,

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so vulnerable so so meek that he was just 100

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% dependent on on Mary and Joseph and I don't

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know I just it it just has really changed the

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way I have looked at the gift and the giver of

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the gift because I always I always you know,

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just thought oh, you know, we're celebrating

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you know baby Jesus baby Jesus baby Jesus right

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you know and the nativities that are just flooding

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my home and most people's homes and this time

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of year and you know I I love it I love it but

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then I think but ultimately who was the giver

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and and ultimately what did he give he didn't

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just give us a solution right Mean we think of

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it that way and ultimately that's where we have

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the manifestation I think of the gift and the

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many gifts that come through the main gift of

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Jesus Christ his son But but you know what babe?

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He was given so much more to us than than just

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a solution to a problem think about this You

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know think about our wounds. He gave us a healer

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for every single wound that we experienced spiritual

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yeah physical All of them, right? Think about

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this. He gave us a Redeemer for every sin. Every

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sin, and you notice I didn't say every sin that

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I commit. He gave us a Redeemer for every sin.

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I'm affected by sin. I'm affected by your sin.

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You're affected by my sin. We're all affected

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by each other's sin. You can't sin in a bubble.

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And we have a Redeemer for all of that. Every

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sin. Think of this. We have strength in every

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weakness because of the gift. And I don't know

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about the rest of the world, I think I do, but

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we all have weakness and we need that strength.

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And we think of the enabling that comes with

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the strength. He enables us to do things that

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are far bigger than we are capable of doing on

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our own. Exactly. Well, and then think of this,

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you know, you and I know people who have been

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and are currently in some pretty dark places.

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You and I have been in some pretty dark places.

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Maybe many, if not most of our listeners have

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been in some pretty dark places. And so because

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of this gift, there's light in the darkness.

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In every dark place, we can have light because

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of that gift. Here's one more I have that I thought

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about, you know, in every hopeless place that

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we've ever been, you've been hopeless, I've felt

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hopeless, we've all felt that. But because of

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the gift, now we have hope in every hopeless,

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potentially in every hopeless situation, right?

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I love that too. And I go back to Nick's comment

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about Jesus likes to get his hands dirty, which

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is true. He meets us in the darkness. Yeah, thinking

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about Jesus as a gift. You know, I also had an

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eye -opening experience this morning, you know,

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feeling sorry for myself, comparing why I'm,

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you know, not having what everybody else is having

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and experiencing what everybody else is experiencing.

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And in my prayer and scripture study this morning,

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I got that little reprimand. And I was listening

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to a conference talk and listened to the humble

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and meek beginnings that the Savior came, you

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know, almost basically homeless. But I just thought,

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oh Deb, stop it. You know, it's, we have, we

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have, I have a tendency to, to, you know, pick

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up my crybaby, you know, attitude and feel sorry

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for myself. And I, I often, you know, when I

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push pause and I, I reflect and remember you

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know Jesus really is such a gift to me and and

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his life and his example and his you know every

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every single thing he did was by the will of

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the Father and I've really tried to pick that

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up and carry it not my will but thine be done

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not my will but thine be done and it's like I'm

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where I need to be because I'm doing thy will

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I'm doing what I'm doing because I want to do

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thy will I've often thought about, you know,

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the humble beginnings. You just talk about humble

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beginnings. You know, I think about the humble

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beginnings and, yeah, homeless and, you know,

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whatever, but humble beginnings. I don't want

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to over exaggerate for the sake of over exaggerating,

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but he was born in a manger. in a con, you know,

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in a con's a little bit different than what we

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think of as a manger. It was actually a place

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where people would come and stay, like a hotel,

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and there was no room for them in one of those

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rooms. So they actually literally had to go stay

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out in the barn area, the manger area, where

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the animals were, right? And I think about that.

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I look at Bethlehem differently. since we had

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this discussion the other day. When I remember

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what the Father was giving, a manger, that was

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no accident. That was a message. I think that

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was a message to each of us. An important message

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when you push pause and really reflect on it.

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Right, because humility actually defined his

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entire mission. He came down, not just from heaven

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to earth, but into our own experiences and into

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our vulnerability and in places where we hide.

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I think that that's a totally different view

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than just being born in a manger, to me, right?

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It wasn't an accident. No, absolutely. It's all

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part of the plan. It was a message. Yeah, yeah.

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And when the king of king is born in a stable,

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it means he's not afraid to enter our mess. I

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know, yeah. part of our lives any part of our

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world you know we we I recently listened to a

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story about a gentleman serving a mission in

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a third world country and how these people had

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there were tons of people in that lived in this

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little shack and how they invited him over it

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was a missionary and he they invited him over

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for Thanksgiving dinner and he goes honestly

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as a young missionary I wasn't looking forward

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to it because they had nothing and he says and

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when we arrived there were two chairs And a table

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full of food and this entire family sat around

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the edge and watched these two missionaries eat

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this feast and Every child and adult were just

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grinning ear to ear so happy to give that gift

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and I think You know what? Where's my gift giving

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skills? You know what you know? We can really

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put a mirror in front of our face and say what

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am I willing to give that kind of gift, clear

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from the soul, intentional, and on purpose, you

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know? I love your perspective on that. My perspective

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on that is a little different. I've been a missionary.

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I've been in a situation where I didn't necessarily

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want or appreciate a member's kindness. You know

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what I mean? Sure. If I were to sit at a table

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like that with my companion across the table

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from me and others watching me eat, The most

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difficult part of that whole night would be for

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me to receive that gift interesting I see the

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sacrifice in the giving of that gift just like

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I see the sacrifice in the giving of the gift

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of Jesus Christ from our Heavenly Father. And

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knowing that it was planned from the very beginning

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from before the foundations of the world helps

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me to have more hope and more faith and actually

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be a little gentler on myself because Heavenly

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Father knew I would need this gift from the very

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beginning. Yeah, but we are willingness to receive

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it. How do I receive it? That's interesting.

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That would be difficult because as soon as you're

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telling me, you know, the missionaries are sitting

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and everybody's watching them eat, I'm getting

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uncomfortable. I mean, my skin's crawling uncomfortable

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because I don't want to receive that gift because

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if that's the case, that means they're going

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without. There's a huge sacrifice attached to

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all of this. So how do I receive this gift? Yeah.

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And I guess there's something to be said about

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that. Maybe they before you don't know that.

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Right. Well, the fact of the matter is, you know,

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sometimes it's just as hard to receive that gift

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as it is to give that gift. I know. Well, you

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know, and I'm also wondering, well, what does

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this gift to me mean right now? You know, you

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know, one of the the names of Jesus is Emmanuel,

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which is God with us, not above us, not distant.

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but with us. And when we think of being with

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us, there's many different connotations to that

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thought. When I'm with somebody, that means I

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can just share the same space. I could be with

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a friend in my car, right? But when I'm with

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you, When you come to me and you say, Scott,

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we have to be more united or we have to be this

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or we should do this, or I come to you with an

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idea or a concept or something that will draw

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us closer to Heavenly Father or anything else,

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and I say, yeah, Deb, I'm with you. That's different

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than just sitting by you. That's an emotional

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investment, right? That's more than just an emotional

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investment. That's a complete commitment to you.

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Deb, I'm with you. You know, Emmanuel, God with

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us, that doesn't just mean He's next to me. That

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doesn't just mean He's in the same room with

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me. That means if I align with Him, He will dwell

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within me. What does that feel like when He's

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with you, Scott? when you fill him with you.

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When I fill God with me. So let me explain. When

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I fill God with me, the way that I would define

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that is anytime that I'm filling the presence

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of the Holy Ghost or participating in any kind

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of what I call instruments of grace. You know,

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so for example, I felt God today now when I got

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out of bed this morning It was a fine day. No

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big deal Today's my birthday Thanks, we're celebrating

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my 50th birthday for like the 12th time or something

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like that I think but But no big deal, you know,

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and I do my dailies. I got up and I read a little

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bit of AA material this morning, and I did a

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little writing, and I did a little scripture

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study, and I've done a lot of scripture study

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throughout the day. That's kind of a blessing

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that I have an opportunity to do sometimes, and

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I've done that today. But the way that I really

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feel him, Dub, is when I get to participate in

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service towards him. When I see his work at work

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or when I see the manifestations or the effects

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of Christ's Atonement, I had an opportunity today

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to, again, offer a blessing, a priesthood blessing

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to another young man who struggles with major,

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major, major depression, stuff like I've never

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seen before. And when he came, he was hopeless.

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And when he left, he still felt a little bit.

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but he was feeling a little bit better. And then

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later in the day, I got this long text from him,

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and I wept the entire time I sat there and read

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that. God had changed his life through the Spirit.

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And that's one of the things for me. Anytime

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I can feel the Spirit, I know that God's at work

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in my life. And we talk about it all the time,

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almost to the point where it's like, you know,

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I think people around me are like, Scott, you're

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a broken record. You say the same thing over

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and over and over again. Well, it's true. It's

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because it's true. Yeah. Yeah. It is true. Yeah.

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And so that's how I, you know, that's what it

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looks like when I feel the spirit or when I know

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that God's with me. You know, God will direct

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me. I'll have a thought. I'll pick up a phone.

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I know I've learned today that when I think about

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somebody, I pick up the phone and call them.

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Yeah. I don't know if that's God puttin' their

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name in my head or not, and many times it is.

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I'll call him, I'll just say, I was just thinkin'

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about you. Yeah, and then, yeah, the Spirit puttin'

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that in my head or what, but I'll just call him,

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hey, how's it goin', oh, and more times than

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not, well, probably not more times than not,

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but a lot of times, that phone call needed to

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be made. You know? Yeah, it's the Spirit. How

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do you? For sure. I think it's more, for me,

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peace. I get really distracted in the world,

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and I let work get me a little riled. I let...

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you know, my kid thing, you know, if there's

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things going on with my kids, I stress and worry.

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And even though I know I shouldn't, because that

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was one thing I always judged about my mom and

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my grandma. I was like, you guys worry too much.

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Good grief, quit stressing. And I find myself

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doing the very same thing. But I think I think

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when I really feel Him is when there's peace.

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And one of the number one places I feel peace

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is in the temple. I love the temple. I love being

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in Jesus. When I enter into His house, I feel

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Him. I feel that peace, I feel that calm, I feel

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that stillness. And I just be still and know

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that I am God is the temple for me. I love that.

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Yeah, I love that too. You know, one of the things

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that you asked me, what was your question? How

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do I know God's my life or how do I feel it or

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what does that look like or whatever? But, you

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know, one of the questions that... One of the

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questions that I'd like to consider and invite

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our listeners to consider is what does this gift

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to me? What does this gift mean to me right now?

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You know As we talked about, you know, we know

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that he's with us We know that he's behind us

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that he's strengthening us enabling us Compensating

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us all the things that we talked about but but

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what you know One of the things that I think

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we sometimes get a little bit confused is that

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we sometimes see the atonement of Jesus Christ

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as like a spiritual debt relief. You know what

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I mean by that? Like I owe this huge debt now

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because of the atonement I don't owe the of Jesus

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Christ. I don't owe that debt anymore, right?

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But that's not what it is at all. I mean, you

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know, our sins are paid for. We are redeemed.

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All of that for sure. But what it really is,

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is it's strength, right? It gives me strength,

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it strengthens me to overcome. Enabling power

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to overcome my sin, right? Compensating grace

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to overcome the things that. derail me from the

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past, present, future, whatever. And you know

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what? Finally, I think maybe one of the greatest

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things that the atonement of Jesus Christ allows

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for me is transformation, change. I don't have

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to stay the same. Isn't that a relief sometimes?

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Oh, my goodness. I know. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't

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have to remain the same. Well, his birth, Jesus's

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birth declares something about us, too. we are

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worth our Heavenly Father's greatest gift and

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the anticipation he had on Christmas Eve to give

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us the greatest gift we could ever imagine. We

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are worth that price and he was willing to pay

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every single one of us. I never thought of it

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that way. Yeah, his willingness to give this

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gift says a lot about me. I don't think we...

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I've never considered that until this moment.

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Seriously. Yeah. I don't think we really truly

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know who we truly are. Yeah, I love that. Well,

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I realized listening to that song, I hadn't been

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receiving the gift as fully as I had thought.

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And I'd been busy and distracted, like I said,

00:25:23.670 --> 00:25:26.349
overwhelmed. But I think, you know, finding peace,

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I decided my word for 2026 is peace. I just want

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more peace because life gets too busy. And I'm

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known as people. People always say, I know you're

00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:39.319
busy. I know you're busy. And I don't want to

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be known as busy. I want to be known as peaceful.

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Or maybe just happy. Just peace. So I think more

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than anything, this song helped me just kind

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of push pause and just put on a different set

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of glasses and look at things very, very differently.

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Right. Well, and you know, I think it helps us

00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:02.319
as we just kind of wrap everything up here I

00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:04.980
think it helps us we're really focusing on receiving

00:26:04.980 --> 00:26:07.619
him this season Receiving that gift like you

00:26:07.619 --> 00:26:09.640
said exactly that table being uncomfortable.

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Yeah, we might be uncomfortable receiving it

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But it doesn't mean being perfect true. It doesn't

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mean it does mean however That we turn towards

00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.900
him. Yeah, right and we turn towards him with

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complete Honesty or as much honesty as we can

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muster and I realize that sometimes that comes

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in layers and Etc and and and and we need to

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turn towards him with our needs Right, I think

00:26:36.890 --> 00:26:39.049
and I don't know if this is true, especially

00:26:39.049 --> 00:26:42.289
for men or not, but I sure find myself having

00:26:42.289 --> 00:26:48.789
a Deep compelling whatever within myself to cowboy

00:26:48.789 --> 00:26:55.150
up to just buck up Scott, right? And I know that,

00:26:55.150 --> 00:26:57.549
you know, that gift allows me to be different

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from that. The other thing is receiving doesn't

00:27:01.529 --> 00:27:04.930
mean being perfect. It means turning towards

00:27:04.930 --> 00:27:08.910
him. Again, receiving him doesn't mean being

00:27:08.910 --> 00:27:11.950
perfect. It means turning towards him with openness,

00:27:12.809 --> 00:27:16.049
right? Vulnerability. You know, we think it's

00:27:16.049 --> 00:27:18.309
so easy to think, and I've done this, you know,

00:27:18.349 --> 00:27:21.039
we'll go take your sins to the Lord. talk to

00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:24.339
him about them. Well, he already knows. That's

00:27:24.339 --> 00:27:27.039
what I would think. He already knows. I don't

00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:28.920
need to do it with openness. But he wants to

00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:31.720
hear that you know. 100%. And he wants to know

00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:37.440
that I know that he knows. And that I know that

00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.400
he knows that I know that there's a solution

00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:44.400
in his son, the gift. That you have faith in

00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.539
the name. Yeah. And maybe more importantly, I

00:27:47.539 --> 00:27:50.970
can't receive it without humility. And that's

00:27:50.970 --> 00:27:53.869
a difficult one for many of us especially people

00:27:53.869 --> 00:27:56.809
like me. That's a really difficult one You know

00:27:56.809 --> 00:28:00.269
sometimes so, you know as long as I can remember

00:28:00.269 --> 00:28:05.130
this That receiving him is all about my relationship

00:28:05.130 --> 00:28:08.710
with him knowing him loving him striving to be

00:28:08.710 --> 00:28:12.250
like him Knowing him loving him striving to be

00:28:12.250 --> 00:28:14.210
like him. It's all about that relationship. It's

00:28:14.210 --> 00:28:18.730
not a checkbox It's not did I or didn't I or

00:28:18.730 --> 00:28:21.130
should I or shouldn't I or you should have or

00:28:21.130 --> 00:28:23.910
you shouldn't have. It's about my relationship

00:28:23.910 --> 00:28:27.289
with him. And I need to continue to develop that.

00:28:27.369 --> 00:28:29.769
Yeah. And especially this time of year, sometimes

00:28:29.769 --> 00:28:34.750
the most spiritual thing we can do is that Christmas

00:28:34.750 --> 00:28:39.190
song still, still, still slow down, slow down

00:28:39.190 --> 00:28:42.450
long enough to let him in. find that peace, find

00:28:42.450 --> 00:28:46.529
that, I always go back to the sacrament of eating

00:28:46.529 --> 00:28:49.670
that little piece of, that broken torn piece

00:28:49.670 --> 00:28:53.230
of bread and ingesting, putting Jesus inside

00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:56.690
and wearing the garment to wear on the outside.

00:28:57.069 --> 00:28:59.369
You know, it's just, it's just, we need more

00:28:59.369 --> 00:29:07.109
Him in our lives. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I, as

00:29:07.109 --> 00:29:12.720
I, you know, reflect back on That song I don't

00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:14.559
think it was an accident that that played because

00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:18.720
I had never heard that song before and This time

00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.019
of year. I just love all Christmas music. It's

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the fun the silly the Joyful that I love it all

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and it was just no accident that that particular

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one had come up, I found the artist, it was Jordan

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St. Cyr, C -Y -R. So if anybody wants to look

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it up, it's called Christmas Eve. Yeah, it's

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such a great, great message. Anyway, I just felt

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like that was something that I would like to

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share with, you know, our listeners and even

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something that I can go reflect back on, because

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as soon as, you know, we push stop or whatever.

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I'll forget, and life gets noisy and life gets

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busy, but I'm grateful for this pause and this

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moment to just be able to reflect and remember

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and thank, literally thank my Heavenly Father

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for the most precious gift. I love that. I'm

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glad you had that experience. I think our listeners

00:30:20.769 --> 00:30:22.650
are glad you had that experience. This has really

00:30:22.650 --> 00:30:25.829
opened my eyes a lot and has been life changing.

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It's changed how I see things. I love that I

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can be at this age, the 12th anniversary of my

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50th birthday. For those of you who are struggling

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with math at 62, but I can be at this age and

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I can have an experience that opens something

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new to me in my experience with Christmas. I

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never considered that. I know what it's like

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to be a father and how excited I am to give the

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gift, to give the gift of magic and all that

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stuff to my children. I never thought of Heavenly

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Father having that. That most precious gift.

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I know Christ didn't necessarily come. There's

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a lot of discussion around exactly when was he

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really born. But symbolically, we celebrate Christ

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coming in the winter. And I know that many of

00:31:14.619 --> 00:31:18.019
us have various seasons in our lives. And, you

00:31:18.019 --> 00:31:21.059
know, physically speaking, we are in the winter

00:31:21.059 --> 00:31:25.660
time here in the northern hemisphere. David and

00:31:25.660 --> 00:31:28.619
his friends in the southern hemisphere are not

00:31:28.619 --> 00:31:31.039
quite experiencing the same way that we are.

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But nonetheless, we're in winter. And I know

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that Christ came into one of my winters in a

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really important time. And I think that I'm so

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grateful that you helped me realize today that

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Heavenly Father was so happy. that I received

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that gift finally in that winter time. You know,

00:31:51.470 --> 00:31:53.730
it was... You sat at that table and enjoyed the

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meal. It was, yeah, exactly. Yeah, as uncomfortable

00:31:56.970 --> 00:31:59.349
as it may have felt. So uncomfortable. But October

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26, 1998, when he, when he allowed me to be broken

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enough or when I was broken enough to allow him

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into my life and to change everything, I was

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literally reborn. not in a day, but in a process.

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And that's continuing to happen to me because

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of his redemption. I'm so grateful for it. I'm

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grateful for this time of year and the moments

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that it causes us to reflect. I hope I can just

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remember this all year, not just this time of

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year. And I hope I can find other messages, you

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know, those little miracles. So, my invitation

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is simple. Let the Father's gift be the center

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of your Christmas. Let Jesus be more than a story.

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Let Him be your strength, your peace, and your

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light. And you know what? Don't just rush past

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it. Slow down. Still, still, still. Receive Him.

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Let Him meet you wherever you are this season.

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And realize that He is willing to meet you wherever

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you are this season. He wants to be there with

00:33:10.859 --> 00:33:15.420
you. Yeah. Well, I know our Heavenly Father sent

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His Son because He loves me and all of us personally.

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He didn't give Him generically. He gave Him to

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me and to you. Yeah, so true. You know, and Deb,

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I testify that Jesus Christ is the gift that

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changes everything. He changes your past, He

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changes your present, He changes your future.

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And most importantly, he helps us through our

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identity determine our eternity. He is our eternity.

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I'm so grateful for that. During this Christmas

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season, we hope that you'll receive him. We hope

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that you'll consider and accept the invitation

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to allow him more freely and more completely

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in your life. Thanks for being with us today.

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If you like what you're hearing here, please

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share it. Also, don't forget that you can reach

00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:12.739
that he redeems us at gmail .com with any comments

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or questions that you may have. May this season

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be great for you and may God's love be ever present

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in your life, we pray. Have a great one everybody.

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Love you.
