WEBVTT 00:00:15.920 --> 00:00:18.640 Hey there, everybody. Welcome out to another 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:20.920 episode of Redeemed Through His Blood. Scott 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:24.100 Durfey here joined, as always, by the beautiful 00:00:24.100 --> 00:00:26.539 Deb Durfey. What's up, babe? Hey, everybody. 00:00:26.980 --> 00:00:31.809 Hello, friends. So good. Good. It's still summer. 00:00:32.060 --> 00:00:34.759 I'm still enjoying the sunshine. You know, people 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:36.399 are gonna be listening to this in the winter 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:39.719 time. I know, I know, but I'll probably be listening 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:41.939 to it in the winter time. Or our friends who 00:00:41.939 --> 00:00:43.799 are in the southern hemisphere right now. Do 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:46.479 you remember when it was so nice and warm outside? 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:48.840 There's sometimes I walk out of a restaurant 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:51.119 or a grocery store when it's the air conditioners 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:54.399 high and cold and I walk out and the very first 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:56.479 thing I say when I walk in that heat, I actually 00:00:56.479 --> 00:01:00.159 say it quite loud, is I yell, I love summer. 00:01:01.780 --> 00:01:05.540 all of the heat and everything. We know it's 00:01:05.540 --> 00:01:08.040 winter time in the southern hemisphere, those 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:11.459 in Australia and New Zealand, and we have quite 00:01:11.459 --> 00:01:14.000 a few listeners down there. We have two semi 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:16.459 -new listeners down there, David and Chris. I've 00:01:16.459 --> 00:01:19.519 got an exchange, a couple of emails recently, 00:01:19.900 --> 00:01:22.620 today actually with him, and they're having a 00:01:22.620 --> 00:01:26.079 great time in the Australian winter near Sydney. 00:01:26.340 --> 00:01:29.219 I can't remember the name of the... Canberra 00:01:29.219 --> 00:01:33.640 or something? Canberra, yeah. The federal capital, 00:01:34.099 --> 00:01:36.099 I think he called it. And they're going to be 00:01:36.099 --> 00:01:38.670 teaching. Oh, you know what? That's so cool, 00:01:38.769 --> 00:01:42.189 right? So we just found out that David and Chris 00:01:42.189 --> 00:01:44.730 will be actually teaching the divine gift of 00:01:44.730 --> 00:01:47.569 forgiveness as part of their mission assignment 00:01:47.569 --> 00:01:52.030 in Australia. Epic. They have been kind of assigned 00:01:52.030 --> 00:01:55.370 to work with the young single adults. Apparently, 00:01:55.510 --> 00:01:59.629 there's many, a huge number of them that are 00:01:59.629 --> 00:02:02.950 not involved. And that's definitely going to 00:02:02.950 --> 00:02:05.769 change when they get to. They'll all become friends. 00:02:06.629 --> 00:02:09.930 They'll love them. They won't be able to stay 00:02:09.930 --> 00:02:14.639 away, that's for sure. Well, great stuff. had 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:18.580 a great topic last week. We said that we would 00:02:18.580 --> 00:02:21.780 kind of revisit a couple of things that we ended 00:02:21.780 --> 00:02:24.400 with last week. But before we do that, Deb, I 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:26.219 just remembered I wanted to share something. 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:28.139 Don't let me forget what I just said that we're 00:02:28.139 --> 00:02:30.979 going to be moving into the topic here in just 00:02:30.979 --> 00:02:34.159 a second. But you know, I had the shoulder surgery. 00:02:34.259 --> 00:02:38.060 Yes. And yesterday I went in for my physical 00:02:38.060 --> 00:02:41.000 therapy. It was my second visit for physical 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:42.979 therapy. I'm only going once a week. I'm healing 00:02:42.979 --> 00:02:45.939 like super fast. Yeah, he's a turbo healer. Yeah, 00:02:45.939 --> 00:02:48.139 it's crazy how fast I'm healing. It's awesome. 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:53.319 I think you said an intention. But the the the 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.219 physical therapist says to me, first thing he 00:02:56.219 --> 00:03:00.919 says, So how's recovery going? Oh my gosh, I 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:02.599 know where you're going with this. You know, 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:05.479 at the very beginning of our podcast, we talk 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:09.060 about, I don't know if it was episode one, two, 00:03:09.099 --> 00:03:10.840 three, somewhere in there though, we talk about 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:14.680 who we are and our identity. And you know, much 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:18.500 of who we are is how we hear and how we view 00:03:18.500 --> 00:03:22.419 the world through the lens of our identity. And 00:03:22.419 --> 00:03:25.520 I had a really great example of that yesterday 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:27.879 because when he said to me, how's the recovery 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:31.240 going? I answered him quickly too. Oh, it's going 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:33.439 great, man. I went to a meeting Saturday morning. 00:03:33.460 --> 00:03:37.759 You did not. I did. I love this. I said I went 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:40.340 to a meeting Saturday morning. It was Alcoholics 00:03:40.340 --> 00:03:42.099 Anonymous. You know, I don't really go to the 00:03:42.099 --> 00:03:44.340 church meetings much. I told him. You're telling 00:03:44.340 --> 00:03:49.560 your PT this. Yeah. Scott Durfee. That's hilarious. 00:03:49.659 --> 00:03:53.120 He's looking at me like. Holy cow. What are you 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:55.120 talking about, mister? He had this look on his 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:58.819 face like, you know, I'm not quite sure. And 00:03:58.819 --> 00:04:02.840 I just started laughing. And, you know, because 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:07.520 obviously he meant my shoulder recovery. He's 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:11.039 my physical therapist. I'm thinking he's meaning 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:15.599 the recovery that really matters to me. Oh my 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:18.800 gosh. You did not tell me this. I know, I was 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:20.459 gonna wait until the podcast, so I'm telling 00:04:20.459 --> 00:04:23.680 you now. This is hilarious. I know, I know. But 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:25.680 it was awesome. He loved it, and it gave us an 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:27.459 opportunity to talk about a few things, including 00:04:27.459 --> 00:04:30.000 the podcast. Maybe he's listening and laughing 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.319 as well. Yeah, let's talk about the recovery 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:36.360 that you're here for. That's pretty funny. It 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.000 was cool, though. He was like, 26 years sober, 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.040 man. That's awesome. He had a couple of questions 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:44.699 and stuff, but I think, I think they were mostly 00:04:44.699 --> 00:04:47.560 by way of trying to ease the discomfort that 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:49.579 he thought I was feeling. I didn't care. I don't 00:04:49.579 --> 00:04:51.639 care about that stuff. He was probably feeling 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:54.079 it and he's like, what are you talking about? 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:57.399 Made him a little uneasy, but that's hilarious. 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:00.399 I know. I know. I cannot believe you instantly 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:02.540 went there. There's lesson in that, you know, 00:05:02.540 --> 00:05:05.139 it's, and this is what I take away from. In fact, 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:07.839 I thought about this. In fact, I told him this, 00:05:08.220 --> 00:05:11.629 I says, you know, isn't it funny how The lens 00:05:11.629 --> 00:05:14.370 that we see our identity or that our identity 00:05:14.370 --> 00:05:16.889 provides for us, the lens that we see the world 00:05:16.889 --> 00:05:20.529 from, is much shaped because of our identity, 00:05:20.610 --> 00:05:22.850 who we are, who we see ourselves as and stuff 00:05:22.850 --> 00:05:25.949 like that. Yeah, our perception is our reality 00:05:25.949 --> 00:05:28.529 for sure. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. That's funny. 00:05:29.370 --> 00:05:32.149 Yeah. Anyway, Institute went really great last 00:05:32.149 --> 00:05:36.199 week. It was a great class. Always is. Always 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:38.720 is. We're winding down though. We only have two 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.160 more classes left in this semester and then we'll 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:43.019 begin a brand new semester. I'm looking forward 00:05:43.019 --> 00:05:46.279 to that too. Have a lot of new people, new freshmen 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:47.800 from all over the world. We had new ones this 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:51.329 last week. Yeah, we did. We had half of our class. 00:05:51.550 --> 00:05:53.949 Yeah, half of our class was all new. So to try 00:05:53.949 --> 00:05:58.050 to link it to last week's lesson and it's summer 00:05:58.050 --> 00:06:00.410 semesters are really challenging to maintain 00:06:00.410 --> 00:06:02.850 any kind of continuity. It's almost like you 00:06:02.850 --> 00:06:06.449 have to teach 14 standalone lessons. That's true. 00:06:06.649 --> 00:06:08.769 We should remember that. Yeah. Well, we tried 00:06:08.769 --> 00:06:10.569 to, but it's still important that we talk about 00:06:10.569 --> 00:06:13.250 things that we talk about. It was great. It was 00:06:13.250 --> 00:06:14.930 a great class. It was awesome. Oh, the funny 00:06:14.930 --> 00:06:17.790 thing is this was really cool. When we drove 00:06:17.790 --> 00:06:21.769 up, into the parking lot, there was a truck pulling 00:06:21.769 --> 00:06:24.610 a trailer that had a four wheeler in it and some 00:06:24.610 --> 00:06:26.769 kayaks. And I said, wow, that looks like a good 00:06:26.769 --> 00:06:29.810 time. And then as we drove further into the parking 00:06:29.810 --> 00:06:31.509 lot, we saw that the hood of the truck was up 00:06:31.509 --> 00:06:34.430 and Scott said, that doesn't look like a good 00:06:34.430 --> 00:06:38.290 time. That broken down truck. Needless to say, 00:06:38.550 --> 00:06:41.670 long story short, we went into our class, taught 00:06:41.670 --> 00:06:44.529 our class, and two of the kids that were in that 00:06:44.529 --> 00:06:48.110 broken truck, they were from up north from us, 00:06:48.310 --> 00:06:51.569 about an hour and a half north of us, and they 00:06:51.569 --> 00:06:54.189 were heading down an hour and a half south of 00:06:54.189 --> 00:06:57.750 us, they came into our institute class. They're 00:06:57.750 --> 00:07:00.689 like took notes when they were both return missionaries. 00:07:00.750 --> 00:07:03.670 They were great, great contributors to the class. 00:07:03.870 --> 00:07:06.529 It was a treat. So I was like, I was pretty amazing. 00:07:06.709 --> 00:07:10.389 Yeah, that was epic. Yeah, I wish I could remember 00:07:10.389 --> 00:07:11.889 their names. And I'm sorry, I don't remember 00:07:11.889 --> 00:07:13.930 your names. But boy, do I remember your faces. 00:07:14.569 --> 00:07:18.029 They were great contributors somewhere up north. 00:07:18.269 --> 00:07:21.279 Clinton. Logan I thought he said somewhere way 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:24.540 up there. Yeah, and they were going down to that 00:07:24.540 --> 00:07:28.800 part I remember and I and I remember Those handsome 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.360 devil kids. They're just good -looking great 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:33.759 kids cousins that had been away from each other 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:35.699 for a while for a couple of years Cuz they've 00:07:35.699 --> 00:07:38.180 been both serving missions. Yeah looking to having 00:07:38.180 --> 00:07:40.720 a great shout out to him. That's awesome. Pretty 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:45.629 amazing Pretty amazing. So well, OK, last week 00:07:45.629 --> 00:07:48.569 we this week we will continue our discussion 00:07:48.569 --> 00:07:51.230 around the conditional effects of the atonement 00:07:51.230 --> 00:07:53.149 of Jesus Christ. So just kind of to do a little 00:07:53.149 --> 00:07:55.470 bit of a recap, I'm going to go all the way back 00:07:55.470 --> 00:07:58.250 now. I'm not going to recap the unconditional 00:07:58.250 --> 00:08:02.509 effects, but to just kind of maybe help re help 00:08:02.509 --> 00:08:07.550 us regain some clarity around what this is all 00:08:07.550 --> 00:08:10.990 about, what this means. When we talk about the 00:08:10.990 --> 00:08:13.329 unconditional effects of the atonement of Jesus 00:08:13.329 --> 00:08:15.949 Christ these are the things that we don't deserve 00:08:15.949 --> 00:08:18.949 These are the things that we don't earn and they 00:08:18.949 --> 00:08:24.050 are everything No No, it's not every I don't 00:08:24.050 --> 00:08:26.509 earn we don't really earn that much do we no 00:08:26.509 --> 00:08:29.550 but we deserve Consequences sometimes right we 00:08:29.550 --> 00:08:32.289 align with pain we get pain we align with sin 00:08:32.289 --> 00:08:36.129 we get you know the consequences of sin and all 00:08:36.129 --> 00:08:40.120 of those other things but the the unconditional 00:08:40.120 --> 00:08:42.419 effects of the atonement of Jesus Christ are 00:08:42.419 --> 00:08:46.559 in large part a response to the fall of Adam 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:51.919 and Eve. The conditional effects of the atonement 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:53.580 of Jesus Christ, and I think this will be our 00:08:53.580 --> 00:08:55.320 third or our fourth, I think this will be our 00:08:55.320 --> 00:09:00.039 third episode on the conditional effects of the 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:02.980 atonement of Jesus Christ, the conditional effects 00:09:02.980 --> 00:09:09.679 are in response to the fall of, in my case, in 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:11.820 response to the fall of Scott Durfee, my own 00:09:11.820 --> 00:09:15.519 personal fall. And so when we're talking about 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:17.639 the conditional effects, these are the ones that 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:20.980 sometimes are the ones that we desire so deeply. 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:24.440 These are the ones that are in response to things 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:29.159 that are difficult or ugly or scary or big or 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:32.799 all of those uncomfortable adjectives that you 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:37.129 could come up with. This is where... All of that 00:09:37.129 --> 00:09:40.590 is taken care of, either taken away or we're 00:09:40.590 --> 00:09:43.190 strengthened to deal with it or we're compensated 00:09:43.190 --> 00:09:46.350 because of it and all of that. And, you know, 00:09:46.470 --> 00:09:50.830 maybe we should kind of just recap the ones that 00:09:50.830 --> 00:09:55.009 we've talked about so far in terms of what are 00:09:55.009 --> 00:09:57.970 the conditional effects of the atonement of Jesus 00:09:57.970 --> 00:10:01.090 Christ. The first one is redemption from sin. 00:10:01.929 --> 00:10:05.210 And so we know that we're redeemed as we repent 00:10:05.210 --> 00:10:09.009 and come unto him that we have redeemed from 00:10:09.009 --> 00:10:14.590 our sin. And so we know that number two is kind 00:10:14.590 --> 00:10:16.929 of the strengthening and enabling power. We know 00:10:16.929 --> 00:10:18.990 that we have that. We also know that that comes 00:10:18.990 --> 00:10:22.750 by way of some of the conditional effects. through 00:10:22.750 --> 00:10:25.549 our alignment and through our keeping the commandments, 00:10:25.610 --> 00:10:28.769 we get greater strength and greater enabling 00:10:28.769 --> 00:10:32.490 power, etc. And then compensating an unfairness 00:10:32.490 --> 00:10:35.029 for suffering. And again, we talked a little 00:10:35.029 --> 00:10:38.049 bit about that last week as part of some of the 00:10:38.049 --> 00:10:41.750 conditional effects as well. But there is a there 00:10:41.750 --> 00:10:43.929 are a ton of blessings that are going to come 00:10:43.929 --> 00:10:47.970 to us for our suffering and the unfairness that 00:10:47.970 --> 00:10:50.929 came to us that are just completely unconditional. 00:10:52.490 --> 00:10:56.029 And then what was the next one Deb after that? 00:10:56.429 --> 00:10:59.889 Healing and comfort. We haven't covered that 00:10:59.889 --> 00:11:05.129 one yet, but the last question we asked on our 00:11:05.129 --> 00:11:08.149 last podcast was if justice demands repayment 00:11:08.149 --> 00:11:13.690 for our sins, what does it demand for our undeserved 00:11:13.690 --> 00:11:16.919 pain? And as we thought about that and reflected 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:19.980 on that the last week, I can almost put large 00:11:19.980 --> 00:11:22.259 amounts of cash down that all of us have had 00:11:22.259 --> 00:11:27.519 has experienced undeserved pain. Things that 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:30.580 just are not fair. Yeah, because life is not 00:11:30.580 --> 00:11:33.379 fair. And even I mean, and it could be, you know, 00:11:33.379 --> 00:11:35.399 as simple as a child not getting their way in 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:38.159 the grocery store or the gas station or, you 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:43.879 know, but we all as mortals have experienced 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:48.159 unfairness. So this is kind of where we we ended 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:50.360 last week. Yes. Right. Was when we're talking 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:54.259 about compensation for unfairness and suffering. 00:11:54.259 --> 00:11:57.299 Right. And we did say that, you know, that was 00:11:57.299 --> 00:11:59.840 exactly the one of the last things that we said 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:02.080 that we would talk about. I mean, that we did 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.750 talk about. and that we said that we would revisit. 00:12:04.950 --> 00:12:06.690 Is that question, and I'll just, you said it, 00:12:06.789 --> 00:12:09.009 I'll just repeat it. If justice demands repayment 00:12:09.009 --> 00:12:12.710 for our sins, what does it demand for our undeserved 00:12:12.710 --> 00:12:15.169 pain? Let's just stop for just a second and revisit. 00:12:15.269 --> 00:12:17.769 Remember a couple of weeks ago, we were in Alma 00:12:17.769 --> 00:12:21.490 chapter 42, right? We were talking about justice 00:12:21.490 --> 00:12:24.330 and mercy. Remember the conversation? I do remember 00:12:24.330 --> 00:12:27.169 that. I'm gonna go to Alma 42, and we're gonna 00:12:27.169 --> 00:12:30.830 start in 24. And remember this question. So the 00:12:30.830 --> 00:12:34.440 question is, If justice demands repayment for 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:38.440 our sins, what does it demand for our undeserved 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:41.779 pain or unfairness even? Any kind, right? Yes. 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.080 So this is Alma 42 -24. For behold, justice exercises 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:50.039 all his demands, and also mercy claimeth all 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:53.480 which is her own, and thus none but the truly 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:55.840 penitent are saved. What do you suppose that 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:59.440 mercy can rob justice? I say unto you, nay, not 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:03.720 one wit. If so, God what sees to be God. Just 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:06.200 that verse alone, Deb, or that little part of 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:10.779 that alone, we know that justice has to be satisfied. 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:14.220 It has to be satisfied. And so, you know, we 00:13:14.220 --> 00:13:18.019 always think of justice on our end exacting justice 00:13:18.019 --> 00:13:21.639 against me. Right? Right. If I make a mistake, 00:13:21.899 --> 00:13:24.639 then justice demands that I pay for that mistake 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.899 or that mistake be paid for. Obviously not my 00:13:27.899 --> 00:13:30.039 merit, but his. We'll talk about that later. 00:13:30.340 --> 00:13:32.220 But it nonetheless has to be paid for. But what 00:13:32.220 --> 00:13:36.980 about unfairness? Justice demands equality. It 00:13:36.980 --> 00:13:42.100 demands that all unfairness be made fair. And 00:13:42.100 --> 00:13:45.820 it's you know, we get promised that in the end 00:13:45.820 --> 00:13:49.210 it will all be. Made right and if it isn't made 00:13:49.210 --> 00:13:52.970 right, it's not the end. Yeah, you know there's 00:13:52.970 --> 00:13:56.289 there's a quote in the divine gift of forgiveness 00:13:56.289 --> 00:14:00.330 in chapter 8 that talks about what page you on 00:14:00.330 --> 00:14:05.529 219 And the chapter is generous restitution. 00:14:05.529 --> 00:14:08.250 It's the bottom of it's the last paragraph on 00:14:08.250 --> 00:14:12.389 page 219, but it says you may never Receive an 00:14:12.389 --> 00:14:15.730 acknowledgement, a sincere apology, a humble 00:14:15.730 --> 00:14:19.110 regret, or an attempt to make restitution from 00:14:19.110 --> 00:14:21.870 the person who has offended you or harmed you. 00:14:21.909 --> 00:14:23.750 I'm sure a lot of us have pictures to go with 00:14:23.750 --> 00:14:28.149 those words. If this is your situation, be assured 00:14:28.149 --> 00:14:32.169 that the greatest comfort, the greatest comfort 00:14:32.169 --> 00:14:36.090 or peace you will ever receive will come from 00:14:36.090 --> 00:14:41.480 relying on the healing power of God. As you go 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:47.019 to Him, you will feel His love. His love can 00:14:47.019 --> 00:14:52.039 bind and heal your wounds, however deep or old 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:59.440 they are, or they may be. I have it highlighted 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:05.059 and blocked around. I definitely have pictures 00:15:05.059 --> 00:15:08.539 to go with these words. And I am so grateful 00:15:08.539 --> 00:15:13.720 that I have a loving God that will give me the 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:18.539 greatest comfort and or peace that I will ever 00:15:18.539 --> 00:15:21.440 receive. And I've had that experience. I've been 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:25.480 able to, you know, feel little portions of his 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:29.940 love through rest, you know, the restitution 00:15:29.940 --> 00:15:33.120 that I didn't receive. Right. Right. So you've 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:36.759 been Compensated absolutely and that compensation 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:41.460 came by way of the spirit. Yep The comforter 00:15:41.460 --> 00:15:44.559 the comforter. I love that the comforter. Yeah, 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:49.009 I love that You're the primary president When 00:15:49.009 --> 00:15:51.509 you talk about the Comforter, I'm gonna go just 00:15:51.509 --> 00:15:53.470 a little bit sideways here for a minute, because 00:15:53.470 --> 00:15:55.570 this is important, the Comforter, when we talk 00:15:55.570 --> 00:15:58.009 about the Holy Ghost, the administrator of the 00:15:58.009 --> 00:16:00.690 atonement of Jesus Christ in our lives, and we 00:16:00.690 --> 00:16:03.389 know that compensatory blessings are part of 00:16:03.389 --> 00:16:06.250 those blessings, I mean, that's why we're talking 00:16:06.250 --> 00:16:09.129 about the conditional effects of the atonement 00:16:09.129 --> 00:16:11.289 of Jesus Christ, but the Comforter, you have 00:16:11.289 --> 00:16:15.299 a little kind of... Holy ghost presentation that 00:16:15.299 --> 00:16:17.620 you it's a present. It's not really a presentation 00:16:17.620 --> 00:16:18.820 I don't know what I'd call it, but something 00:16:18.820 --> 00:16:20.980 when you tell the primary kids when they're getting 00:16:20.980 --> 00:16:24.879 baptized About the comforter. Yeah, we give them 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:28.360 a towel that says always remember him on it and 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:30.500 it has their date and the the date that they 00:16:30.500 --> 00:16:33.639 got baptized in their name and I remind them 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:38.480 of the covenant that they make During that baptism 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:43.750 and I I tell them I remember when I was baptized 00:16:43.750 --> 00:16:46.490 and when all those priesthood holders put their 00:16:46.490 --> 00:16:50.629 hands on my head and gave me the most, I'm going 00:16:50.629 --> 00:16:56.049 to cry, the most precious, sacred gift I possess 00:16:56.049 --> 00:16:59.210 and have ever, ever been given. But when those 00:16:59.210 --> 00:17:01.350 heavy hands on that little eight -year -old head 00:17:01.350 --> 00:17:03.990 were laid on my head and I heard those words, 00:17:04.470 --> 00:17:10.420 receive the Holy Ghost, I felt a tangible feeling. 00:17:10.619 --> 00:17:15.279 I remember the power that came from that gift. 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:19.660 I do too. And I tell these kids, listen to those 00:17:19.660 --> 00:17:23.799 words, feel it, and you will always remember 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:26.680 it. And even when you're old like Sister Durfee, 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:30.279 you'll remember it because it is such a sacred. 00:17:30.650 --> 00:17:32.650 You know, I didn't realize what a gift it was 00:17:32.650 --> 00:17:36.289 then as much as I do now, but every year and 00:17:36.289 --> 00:17:38.410 every time I think about it, I just think, man, 00:17:38.730 --> 00:17:41.589 no greater gift has ever been given to me than 00:17:41.589 --> 00:17:45.410 the gift of the Holy Ghost, that comforter. The 00:17:45.410 --> 00:17:49.269 comforter. The warner. We give our grandchildren 00:17:49.269 --> 00:17:51.609 who choose to be baptized, which isn't all of 00:17:51.609 --> 00:17:53.630 them, but those who do choose to be baptized, 00:17:53.769 --> 00:17:56.970 we give them a real comforter. Now we give them 00:17:56.970 --> 00:17:59.750 a blanket. A blanket with their baptismal date 00:17:59.750 --> 00:18:02.549 embroidered into it. And we do the same thing. 00:18:02.730 --> 00:18:04.609 And that's what I think of the comforter. And 00:18:04.609 --> 00:18:07.289 the reason I decided to go sideways on that for 00:18:07.289 --> 00:18:08.990 a minute, Deb, is because when we talk about 00:18:08.990 --> 00:18:11.509 the compensatory blessings of the atonement of 00:18:11.509 --> 00:18:14.569 Jesus Christ, they, for me, have always come 00:18:14.569 --> 00:18:21.180 by way of comforting feelings. I haven't been 00:18:21.180 --> 00:18:24.740 compensated financially. I haven't been compensated 00:18:24.740 --> 00:18:28.160 physically. And I'm not saying that those things 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.680 can't happen. Certainly they can all things are 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.339 possible with God. However, for me Anytime that 00:18:34.339 --> 00:18:36.440 I've needed and I've received these compensatory 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:38.900 blessings to in fact last week We said we wanted 00:18:38.900 --> 00:18:40.839 you to think about something that was unfair 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:43.160 that you can now begin to see differently because 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:45.460 of Christ's Compensation in your life and I have 00:18:45.460 --> 00:18:47.440 to I'm not going to share them, but I have a 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:50.220 couple of things specifically That I've been 00:18:50.220 --> 00:18:53.920 that I'm thinking about that I have been focusing 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:58.289 on since we made that that invitation last week. 00:18:58.730 --> 00:19:01.049 In fact, that was part of my sacrament experience 00:19:01.049 --> 00:19:04.329 was to commune with Heavenly Father in regard 00:19:04.329 --> 00:19:08.289 to these things. And the compensation has come 00:19:08.289 --> 00:19:10.269 and it has come, not didn't just come now, but 00:19:10.269 --> 00:19:13.589 it's been coming for many years in these situations. 00:19:13.670 --> 00:19:16.190 And it's gonna probably, I'm gonna probably need 00:19:16.190 --> 00:19:18.529 to have it come for many, many more years. Maybe 00:19:18.529 --> 00:19:22.089 the remainder of my mortal existence, I don't 00:19:22.089 --> 00:19:26.789 know. But those comforting feelings come to me 00:19:26.789 --> 00:19:30.289 when I align with my Heavenly Father's will and 00:19:30.289 --> 00:19:32.569 I feel the atonement of Jesus Christ at work 00:19:32.569 --> 00:19:35.950 in my life administered by the Comforter, by 00:19:35.950 --> 00:19:38.349 the Holy Ghost. And we also tell our Institute 00:19:38.349 --> 00:19:42.750 kids often, and we say it on our podcast often, 00:19:43.250 --> 00:19:47.950 that when you feel the gift of the Holy Ghost, 00:19:48.390 --> 00:19:50.549 you know that the atonement of Jesus Christ is 00:19:50.549 --> 00:19:53.539 working in your life. Yeah, like you know, you're 00:19:53.539 --> 00:19:55.779 being forgiven, you know, you're being forgiven 00:19:55.779 --> 00:19:59.359 of sin or have been forgiven of sin Yeah, and 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:02.200 you know that you're also being compensated and 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:04.319 enabled and strengthened and all the other blessings 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:06.640 of the atonement of Jesus What a powerful gift 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:09.619 literally a powerful gift. Well the next one 00:20:09.619 --> 00:20:13.440 And so that was what we kind of ended with last 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:17.519 week was the compensatory compensation for unfairness 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:22.240 and suffering obviously can be unconditional, 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:25.500 but to the degree sometimes we need it, it does 00:20:25.500 --> 00:20:28.339 require effort and alignment on our part, which 00:20:28.339 --> 00:20:32.759 means that we come to Him. And part of those 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:36.380 compensatory blessings that come to me, and I 00:20:36.380 --> 00:20:38.339 think I just alluded to it, but we have it as 00:20:38.339 --> 00:20:41.079 its own kind of little category here, are blessings 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:43.700 of healing and comfort. which we talked a little 00:20:43.700 --> 00:20:46.240 bit about just a minute ago with the comforter. 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:49.079 Yeah, exactly. They kind of all tie in together. 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:54.900 What does it mean that that that he can heal 00:20:54.900 --> 00:20:58.880 us and comfort us? Well, I you know, I have tangible 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:01.960 experiences with that when my life was in shambles. 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:05.140 And I've shared this in a previous podcast about 00:21:05.140 --> 00:21:10.029 just. living in a circumstance that was very, 00:21:10.029 --> 00:21:13.450 very difficult and I sought for his guidance 00:21:13.450 --> 00:21:16.849 by going to the temple. And I walked in pretty 00:21:16.849 --> 00:21:23.170 broken. And, you know, as I was broken and open 00:21:23.170 --> 00:21:29.049 and I went and participated in those sacred covenants 00:21:29.049 --> 00:21:34.650 and sacred ordinances in the temple, I was able 00:21:34.650 --> 00:21:38.880 to walk out. a completely different person because 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:43.579 of the healing and comfort that came to me in 00:21:43.579 --> 00:21:48.039 that moment of crying out, literally. I can think 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:51.900 of a couple of situations in my life where this 00:21:51.900 --> 00:21:55.480 has been a real poignant experience for me to 00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:59.480 receive healing and comfort. And most of the 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:03.420 time, Maybe not, maybe not most of the time, 00:22:03.460 --> 00:22:05.880 but certainly a lot of the time that healing 00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:09.200 and comfort has come by way of process. It didn't 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:12.420 just all of a sudden go away. I wasn't all of 00:22:12.420 --> 00:22:15.339 a sudden healed. The comfort that I was feeling 00:22:15.339 --> 00:22:17.720 didn't all of a sudden take away all the things 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:21.259 that I felt like I needed comfort around. It 00:22:21.259 --> 00:22:24.359 required effort on my part. And I think that 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:28.220 what you just said was how it worked for me. 00:22:28.700 --> 00:22:35.680 I remember I remember the weeks prior to my getting 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:39.539 sober. My life was in shambles. It was terrible. 00:22:39.619 --> 00:22:41.740 Everything was coming down around me. I was overwhelmed. 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:44.720 I didn't know what I mean. I was suicidal. I 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:49.200 had planned my own demise and all of that stuff. 00:22:49.579 --> 00:22:52.799 And you know what, it was in my darkest moment 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:57.819 when Heavenly Father literally reached down and 00:22:57.819 --> 00:23:01.450 snatched me just like he did in to those in the 00:23:01.450 --> 00:23:04.049 Book of Mormon. I was literally snatched out 00:23:04.049 --> 00:23:08.730 of my misery and woe undeservedly. I was crying 00:23:08.730 --> 00:23:11.930 out. I was pleading, please help me. I can't 00:23:11.930 --> 00:23:17.569 do this anymore. And it was then and only then 00:23:17.789 --> 00:23:22.230 that I felt the beginning of this process of 00:23:22.230 --> 00:23:26.150 healing and this process of comfort that I needed 00:23:26.150 --> 00:23:29.029 so badly in my life. And you know, one of the 00:23:29.029 --> 00:23:32.809 scriptures that we refer to a lot about this, 00:23:32.809 --> 00:23:34.849 and it's really interesting, before Deb and I 00:23:34.849 --> 00:23:37.910 came down to our little studio here to record 00:23:37.910 --> 00:23:40.450 the podcast tonight, our bishop and one of his 00:23:40.450 --> 00:23:42.630 counselors, both very close friends of ours, 00:23:42.809 --> 00:23:44.690 Deb and I both got to serve on the High Council 00:23:44.690 --> 00:23:47.309 with this bishop and his counselor that came. 00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:50.180 was one of my counselors when I was in the elders 00:23:50.180 --> 00:23:52.319 quorum president. And we just love these men. 00:23:52.819 --> 00:23:56.819 And they shared the experience about Benadai 00:23:56.819 --> 00:24:00.759 and King Noah and where Benadai was quoting from 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:04.339 this very scripture. So funny. I know I was like, 00:24:04.339 --> 00:24:07.500 well, that was inspired. This very, very scripture 00:24:07.500 --> 00:24:11.920 in Isaiah 53. Surely he hath borne our griefs 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:16.059 and carried our sorrows. Yet we did esteem him 00:24:16.059 --> 00:24:20.200 stricken. smitten of God and afflicted. I'm gonna 00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:23.579 go on with five. But he was wounded for our transgression 00:24:23.579 --> 00:24:27.700 and he was bruised for our iniquities. The chastisement 00:24:27.700 --> 00:24:31.420 of our peace was upon him and with his stripes 00:24:31.420 --> 00:24:36.019 we are healed. I love that. Yeah. I really have 00:24:36.019 --> 00:24:40.200 to keep going. Verse six. And we like sheep have 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:43.680 gone astray. And I, Scott Durfee, like sheep 00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:47.440 have gone astray. Period. That is just how it 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:51.759 is. I have gone astray. And we have turned everyone 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:55.759 to his own way, and the Lord hath laid on him 00:24:55.759 --> 00:25:00.759 the iniquity of us all. Laid on Jesus the iniquity 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:03.960 of us all even though I went astray He laid on 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:06.619 Jesus the iniquity of us all he was oppressed 00:25:06.619 --> 00:25:09.319 and he was afflicted yet He opened not his mouth 00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:12.039 He has brought as a lamb to the slaughter and 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:15.380 as a sheep before his shearers is dumb So he 00:25:15.380 --> 00:25:19.599 openeth not his mouth And then at the very end 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:23.059 of eight for the transgressions of my people 00:25:23.059 --> 00:25:28.289 was he stricken He's paid for it. Yeah It reminds 00:25:28.289 --> 00:25:31.490 me of the scripture in Alma 7. One of our favorites. 00:25:32.269 --> 00:25:37.329 Alma 7 verse 12, and he will take upon him death 00:25:37.329 --> 00:25:40.849 that he may loose the bands of death which bind 00:25:40.849 --> 00:25:45.970 his people and he will take upon him their infirmities 00:25:45.970 --> 00:25:49.670 that his bowels may be filled with mercy according 00:25:49.670 --> 00:25:53.349 to the flesh that he may know according to the 00:25:53.349 --> 00:25:56.859 flesh how to succor his people according to their 00:25:56.859 --> 00:25:59.980 infirmities. He came here, he felt it, he knows. 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:04.500 Whatever we have, whatever is our darkest, hardest 00:26:04.500 --> 00:26:09.099 Gethsemane, he felt it. Deeper, harder, lower 00:26:09.099 --> 00:26:12.859 than all because he suffered for all. I think 00:26:12.859 --> 00:26:14.660 about that and I think of the things that I have 00:26:14.660 --> 00:26:17.559 been through and I'm like, how in the world he 00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:21.740 had to be God -like to... He had to be God. Yes. 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:28.180 To... to endure that kind of pain and suffering 00:26:28.180 --> 00:26:32.019 and infirmities. All the inequities, all the 00:26:32.019 --> 00:26:36.079 injustices, all the infirmities, all the sin, 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.460 all the pain, all the unfairness. I mean, you 00:26:40.460 --> 00:26:42.740 hear things on the news now and you hear things 00:26:42.740 --> 00:26:44.759 that are going on in the world and things that 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:48.220 people are enduring and you're like, how in the 00:26:48.220 --> 00:26:54.170 world did that ever happen? How could one man 00:26:54.170 --> 00:27:00.339 take upon all of that? All of that. and we don't 00:27:00.339 --> 00:27:02.380 even know it all, but the little bit that we 00:27:02.380 --> 00:27:05.680 know is just absolutely horrible. And that was 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:08.279 what I was gonna say, you know, we just, we have 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:12.880 no idea how it happened, we have no idea, I have 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:16.599 no idea the process by which Jesus went through 00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:19.640 and suffered for all of the sins, all of the 00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.519 infirmities, all of the iniquities, all of the 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.460 injustices, and so on of all the world. I have 00:27:26.460 --> 00:27:30.740 no idea how in those moments in Gethsemane because 00:27:30.740 --> 00:27:34.359 of his sinless life, because of his divine birthright, 00:27:35.339 --> 00:27:40.559 I just have no idea how all of that happened. 00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:44.240 But I know it did. Yeah, me too. But I know that 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:46.880 it did. And how do I know that it did? I know 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:49.140 that it did, Deb, because it's made a difference 00:27:49.140 --> 00:27:51.859 in my life. And I've seen it make a difference 00:27:51.859 --> 00:27:55.700 in the lives of others. Yeah. Many of whom I 00:27:55.700 --> 00:27:58.440 love deeply which I love that we have the opportunity 00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:02.119 to testify because we have had front -row seat 00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:05.599 to this and I think that's what makes us so passionate 00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:09.019 about this as we share and get really raw and 00:28:09.019 --> 00:28:12.440 vulnerable in our Institute class and as we share 00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:17.079 our stories on a Platform that is open to the 00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:20.119 entire world that it's like, what a gift to be 00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:24.519 able to testify that we know that He came here, 00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:28.559 lived a sinless life, that He suffered below 00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:33.299 all of it so that He could sucker us, which means 00:28:33.299 --> 00:28:38.180 He knows how I felt. He knows how you felt. And 00:28:38.180 --> 00:28:42.039 He knows how everyone felt that walked this planet 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:46.660 that had any injustice, unfairness, any of that. 00:28:47.320 --> 00:28:51.000 so he could sucker us. He loved us that much. 00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:54.720 I can't even fathom. And then I just think about 00:28:54.720 --> 00:29:00.400 Heavenly Father watching his son do that for 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:05.279 all of his children. I weep saying it. I weep 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.259 just saying it out loud. Because that's a love 00:29:08.259 --> 00:29:15.619 I do not understand. One day I hope I will. understand, 00:29:15.859 --> 00:29:18.279 at least to a degree, that love. Because that's 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.380 really, I believe, the compensatory blessing. 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:23.180 You say we have a front row seat to this. You 00:29:23.180 --> 00:29:26.539 know, so often, and you know, we don't dwell 00:29:26.539 --> 00:29:28.839 on it or harp on it, but so often there's just 00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:34.210 a lot of tragedy in the... recovery community. 00:29:35.369 --> 00:29:38.690 However, this weekend I got to have a front row 00:29:38.690 --> 00:29:41.589 seat to a wonderful miracle. You remember Nick? 00:29:42.069 --> 00:29:45.069 Yeah. We had Nick on the podcast. Go back and 00:29:45.069 --> 00:29:48.609 listen to that. I mean, that podcast alone was 00:29:48.609 --> 00:29:51.690 a miracle. How he had gone from being home. I'm 00:29:51.690 --> 00:29:53.569 only sharing what he shared there. You should 00:29:53.569 --> 00:29:55.829 go listen to it. But how he had gone from being 00:29:55.829 --> 00:30:01.769 homeless. and really at odds with anything of 00:30:01.769 --> 00:30:07.269 God and so on. But through recovery, through 00:30:07.269 --> 00:30:10.150 the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous, and because 00:30:10.150 --> 00:30:13.089 of the divine gift of forgiveness. He loved that 00:30:13.089 --> 00:30:18.259 book. He fell in love with his Savior. And when 00:30:18.259 --> 00:30:20.339 he fell in love with the Savior, he talked about 00:30:20.339 --> 00:30:24.059 how he just all of a sudden had this relationship, 00:30:24.099 --> 00:30:26.880 and that in and of itself was a miracle. Well, 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:31.160 during all that had happened, he lost his family. 00:30:32.420 --> 00:30:36.180 Guess what? You know, but he has his family now. 00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:43.099 Again, they were remarried and reunited and forgiveness 00:30:43.099 --> 00:30:48.640 extended and hope amplified all because of the 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.759 atonement of Jesus Christ. And those compensatory 00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:56.119 blessings are tangible. Tangible for that little 00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:59.519 family, tangible for me and my own life in so 00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.579 many ways, et cetera. So, so awesome. You know, 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:08.190 Deb, One of the things, and this was one of David's 00:31:08.190 --> 00:31:12.950 favorite scriptures, in Matthew, this is an invitation 00:31:12.950 --> 00:31:17.410 that Jesus gives to us in Matthew 11 beginning 00:31:17.410 --> 00:31:21.009 in verse 28, and I just want to read this and 00:31:21.009 --> 00:31:23.609 then let me get your take on it, babe, after 00:31:23.609 --> 00:31:27.930 I've read it. Jesus says, come unto me, all ye 00:31:27.930 --> 00:31:30.869 that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give 00:31:30.869 --> 00:31:34.670 you rest. Take my yoke upon you. and learn of 00:31:34.670 --> 00:31:38.210 me, for I am meek and lonely of heart, and ye 00:31:38.210 --> 00:31:40.950 shall find rest to your souls, for my yoke is 00:31:40.950 --> 00:31:46.009 easy and my burden is light. Oh, I love that. 00:31:47.009 --> 00:31:51.009 That's one of my favorites, too. Yeah. Come unto 00:31:51.009 --> 00:31:54.289 me. Because couldn't don't we all sometimes feel 00:31:54.289 --> 00:31:59.059 heavy laden? Yeah. Like it's life's hard. And 00:31:59.059 --> 00:32:01.460 things come at us that feel really big and really 00:32:01.460 --> 00:32:05.440 hard. I love in 29 where he says, I am meek. 00:32:05.900 --> 00:32:10.619 I have a sign, I wrote it down, that says meekness 00:32:10.619 --> 00:32:14.559 is not weakness. Because I think for a long time 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:19.039 I thought that. But I studied the word meek for 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:23.220 a while. And that humility and that humbleness 00:32:23.220 --> 00:32:27.700 that... softness. I just think about a meek Savior 00:32:27.700 --> 00:32:32.680 and I just, you can hear Him in His most gentle 00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:36.599 words say, come to me. We had a sacred experience 00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:41.559 to be in the temple on Friday and there's a ginormous 00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:43.680 picture of the Savior coming out of the tomb 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:47.279 with Mary kneeling down to her and I just stared 00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:50.700 at that picture of the Savior and I just kept 00:32:50.700 --> 00:32:54.359 thinking. Will I know you when you come? And 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.380 I have an overwhelming feeling that, you know, 00:32:57.380 --> 00:33:01.380 I hope I will. But I just I just stared at that 00:33:01.380 --> 00:33:05.480 picture, just so longing to know his meekness 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.640 and his lowly and heart. Because when you do 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:11.640 push pause and be still and know that I am God, 00:33:12.259 --> 00:33:15.680 you definitely feel that healing comfort. That 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.140 that painting that you're referring to, isn't 00:33:19.140 --> 00:33:22.130 it the one in the chapel? Yeah, the waiting in 00:33:22.130 --> 00:33:26.150 the Orem temple. That painting is one of my very 00:33:26.150 --> 00:33:30.930 favorites for all that it means. And incidentally 00:33:30.930 --> 00:33:35.549 and coincidentally enough, the the artist of 00:33:35.549 --> 00:33:39.069 that painting's friend of ours, Joe Bricky, who 00:33:39.069 --> 00:33:42.470 has also given us permission. And it's the image 00:33:42.470 --> 00:33:45.769 of Jesus that we use for the podcast logo. Right. 00:33:45.930 --> 00:33:50.440 He gave us permission to use that. So. Pretty 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.720 cool. Yeah, I would like that mural on my wall 00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:57.619 to just stare. I know it's so sacred. Yeah, so 00:33:57.619 --> 00:34:02.180 sweet. Yeah, I love that too. This this scripture 00:34:02.180 --> 00:34:05.400 that we just read is one that's super personal 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:10.400 to me. You know, during my own. times, you know, 00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:12.360 you talked about crying out, you know, during 00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.119 those times when I and I still cry out. But during 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.340 those times when I was really making an effort 00:34:17.340 --> 00:34:21.340 to change my life and I just had tried so many 00:34:21.340 --> 00:34:24.820 times, you know, for me, quitting to quit drinking 00:34:24.820 --> 00:34:29.420 was easy. I could quit drinking. I couldn't stay 00:34:29.420 --> 00:34:32.099 quit. You know what I mean? I do know what you 00:34:32.099 --> 00:34:34.599 mean. Yeah. Yeah. There were times when I'd quit. 00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.260 I'd quit drinking, you know, four or five times 00:34:37.260 --> 00:34:41.380 in a day. I just couldn't stay stopped, you know. 00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.679 But it wasn't until that crying out wasn't until 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.619 that I took this serious. Come on to me, all 00:34:47.619 --> 00:34:50.190 you that labor. I had been laboring. I had been 00:34:50.190 --> 00:34:53.650 laboring with something that had been so difficult 00:34:53.650 --> 00:34:56.809 for me. And I know that many, maybe all to a 00:34:56.809 --> 00:34:58.889 degree of our listeners can relate to this. There's 00:34:58.889 --> 00:35:02.190 just that something that I am struggling with 00:35:02.190 --> 00:35:05.730 sometimes that is so, that creates a distance 00:35:05.730 --> 00:35:08.409 between me and the spirit. And it's so hard for 00:35:08.409 --> 00:35:11.969 me to maybe put it aside. But when I read, come 00:35:11.969 --> 00:35:14.250 unto me, all you that labor, I had been laboring 00:35:14.250 --> 00:35:17.530 under the weight of that addiction for so many 00:35:17.530 --> 00:35:21.110 years, I had no other choice. It was come unto 00:35:21.110 --> 00:35:25.289 me. I'll give you rest. Take my yoke upon you. 00:35:25.989 --> 00:35:30.650 My yoke's easy. My burden's light. His yoke is 00:35:30.650 --> 00:35:35.289 easy. His yoke is me yoking with him. His burden 00:35:35.289 --> 00:35:38.150 is definitely light because he carried the burden. 00:35:38.389 --> 00:35:40.849 All I do is align with it and I get the healing 00:35:40.849 --> 00:35:45.050 blessings. The next conditional blessing that 00:35:45.050 --> 00:35:47.909 comes to us by way of Christ's Atonement, Deb, 00:35:48.070 --> 00:35:52.210 there are transformation and sanctification blessings. 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.679 What are we talking about here? Transformation 00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:59.099 and sanctification. Obviously not the same thing, 00:35:59.099 --> 00:36:01.840 so let's take them one at a time. What is transformation? 00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.119 Blessings of transformation. Every time I think 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:08.920 of transformation, I think of a butterfly that 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:14.780 goes from a caterpillar to a butterfly. And transformation 00:36:14.780 --> 00:36:21.320 is literally, I went to my class reunion this 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.889 last summer. June last month, a couple months 00:36:23.889 --> 00:36:27.329 ago. And there were people that did not have 00:36:27.329 --> 00:36:30.809 any idea who I was. And there were people I didn't 00:36:30.809 --> 00:36:34.329 have any idea who they were. And I think about 00:36:34.329 --> 00:36:37.730 how life can transform us, you know, just living 00:36:37.730 --> 00:36:40.909 our life, aging, living our life in whatever 00:36:40.909 --> 00:36:45.210 it is that we are. But the part of transformation 00:36:45.210 --> 00:36:53.780 here is allowing God to change us, to literally 00:36:53.780 --> 00:36:57.760 transform us into somebody that we're not. And 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:02.360 I think that's why I love the broken heart, that 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.460 being broken and open. It's not just our heart, 00:37:05.500 --> 00:37:08.699 but we have to be pliable. We hear a lot about, 00:37:08.780 --> 00:37:12.000 you know, the, the potter and the clay and how 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.099 they, they need to be pliable and not stiff, 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.659 but are we really willing to be transformed? 00:37:18.940 --> 00:37:21.760 I think that's, that's a big question that we 00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:26.420 could ask is, you know, that transformation or 00:37:26.420 --> 00:37:29.780 do we, you know, for a long time, I, you know, 00:37:29.900 --> 00:37:31.980 I didn't want to be changed. I didn't, I liked 00:37:31.980 --> 00:37:34.079 things the way they were until it became such 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.500 a mess that I, it was unmanageable. And I think 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:41.219 Until I allowed God to be in charge of my life 00:37:41.219 --> 00:37:45.280 and transform me into who He wanted me to be, 00:37:45.579 --> 00:37:48.840 then I realized you have a much better plan than 00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:56.960 I do. My idea of my plan is nothing like it is. 00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:01.480 What I thought my life would be is nothing like 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:09.320 it is today. all of that gratitude to my Heavenly 00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:13.500 Father for allowing to transform me into be, 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.820 and I'm sure he has a lot more transforming to 00:38:15.820 --> 00:38:19.139 do. I mean, definitely I'm not done. I've got 00:38:19.139 --> 00:38:21.659 a lot of enduring to do. And then also you add 00:38:21.659 --> 00:38:24.699 the sanctification. To sanctify is to make holy. 00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:30.400 So changes and make us holy is definitely my 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:36.260 will aligning to his will to do his perfected 00:38:36.260 --> 00:38:39.300 work. I have a question for you. Okay. We talk 00:38:39.300 --> 00:38:42.179 about the atonement of Jesus Christ and we always 00:38:42.179 --> 00:38:45.320 go back to we know that for sure that the atonement 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:48.559 was so that we can be forgiven of our sin. Well, 00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.579 if we're talking about the atonement of Jesus 00:38:50.579 --> 00:38:55.559 Christ being also for our transformation, or 00:38:55.559 --> 00:39:00.400 in other words, we are changed as we put on the 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.260 atonement, that's how I'll put it, that we're 00:39:02.260 --> 00:39:05.760 changed as we put on the atonement of Jesus Christ. 00:39:06.139 --> 00:39:07.820 What's the difference between being forgiven 00:39:07.820 --> 00:39:10.239 and being changed? I don't know that there is 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:12.699 a difference. Yeah. I really don't, I don't think 00:39:12.699 --> 00:39:17.750 there is. Because when we truly practice repentance, 00:39:17.789 --> 00:39:22.309 we are changing. I mean, we truly are changing. 00:39:24.210 --> 00:39:27.030 In ways that sometimes we don't see because we're 00:39:27.030 --> 00:39:29.869 up close and personal and right in it. I think 00:39:29.869 --> 00:39:33.110 we don't realize the changes until, and I think 00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:35.670 that's why it's important, and I'm a hypocrite 00:39:35.670 --> 00:39:38.920 saying this, to journal. Because when you write 00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:42.300 things down and you understand where you are 00:39:42.300 --> 00:39:45.300 in your mindset then, and then go back and read 00:39:45.300 --> 00:39:48.519 it to where you are today. I mean, for me personally, 00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:53.900 I have been so blessed with the understanding 00:39:53.900 --> 00:39:58.219 of the scriptures. I shared a little bit. you 00:39:58.219 --> 00:40:01.139 know, last week about how it was so hard for 00:40:01.139 --> 00:40:04.880 me to read, but what a gift that has been just 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:08.480 allowing that transformation in place. I got 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.780 plenty of places to transform and sanctify, but. 00:40:12.699 --> 00:40:15.139 This is one of those that I think that, you know, 00:40:15.219 --> 00:40:17.900 there are probably a lot of our listeners. I 00:40:17.900 --> 00:40:21.619 know that there's obviously areas in probably 00:40:21.619 --> 00:40:24.699 all of our lives that transfer. transformation 00:40:24.699 --> 00:40:28.820 is still in process or needs to be put into process. 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:33.519 And that can be scary. You know, especially especially 00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:38.800 the longer that we stay, I'll say stuck in any 00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:42.659 type of OODA loop. Yes. You know, just doing 00:40:42.659 --> 00:40:45.880 this. We all have it. I definitely have pictures. 00:40:46.059 --> 00:40:50.260 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so it can be scary. And 00:40:50.260 --> 00:40:55.050 so Again, the comforter, the administrator of 00:40:55.050 --> 00:40:57.090 the atonement of Jesus Christ has to be kind 00:40:57.090 --> 00:40:59.530 of at work in our lives in order for us to really 00:40:59.530 --> 00:41:02.989 be able to accomplish that. Again, so important 00:41:02.989 --> 00:41:06.210 for me that I live my life so that I can have 00:41:06.210 --> 00:41:09.829 the companionship of the Holy Ghost to help me 00:41:09.829 --> 00:41:13.570 with this, too. Yeah, for sure. You know, one 00:41:13.570 --> 00:41:17.519 of the things that... Dave asked me one time, 00:41:17.659 --> 00:41:19.780 he said, Scott, what's more important, testimony 00:41:19.780 --> 00:41:23.739 or conversion? And it should have been an easy 00:41:23.739 --> 00:41:26.760 answer. It wasn't at the time, this was four 00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:29.539 or five years ago. And it wasn't an easy answer. 00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.780 But after we discussed it, this is what we're 00:41:34.780 --> 00:41:37.519 talking about here. You know, testimony is I 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:41.929 know that he can. Right. I may even have some 00:41:41.929 --> 00:41:45.550 faith attached to I know that he can But to let 00:41:45.550 --> 00:41:48.969 him that's faith unto repentance We go back to 00:41:48.969 --> 00:41:52.309 Mosiah chapter 4 and and the faith and faith 00:41:52.309 --> 00:41:54.469 unto repentance and faith in the name of Jesus 00:41:54.469 --> 00:41:56.829 Christ But then we have faith unto repentance 00:41:56.829 --> 00:42:00.750 and it gives me action. It allows me to begin 00:42:00.750 --> 00:42:05.070 to take action That makes sense. Yeah for sure 00:42:05.980 --> 00:42:12.380 And so that kind of faith allows this sanctification, 00:42:12.579 --> 00:42:15.460 this transformation, the confidence to come, 00:42:17.980 --> 00:42:21.719 the spiritual confidence that can come only through 00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:25.920 Christ's Atonement. So you talked about the difference 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:28.480 between a testimony and being converted. What 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:32.199 is more important? What do you think is? Well, 00:42:32.260 --> 00:42:35.429 for sure conversion. Yeah. Because I think Knowing 00:42:35.429 --> 00:42:38.489 is not enough and I am proof of that. I mean 00:42:38.489 --> 00:42:42.309 being raised, you know, I knew when I was making 00:42:42.309 --> 00:42:45.829 a bad choice I knew when I was doing things I 00:42:45.829 --> 00:42:48.610 shouldn't and knowing is not enough and I can 00:42:48.610 --> 00:42:52.389 testify of truth But until I'm converted and 00:42:52.389 --> 00:42:56.829 until I have a does no more desire To make those 00:42:56.829 --> 00:42:58.969 choices. I think that's when the conversion comes 00:42:58.969 --> 00:43:02.840 in. I think that's when we can be changed by 00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:06.380 the atonement of Jesus Christ. To have no more 00:43:06.380 --> 00:43:09.659 disposition to do that. You know when this really 00:43:09.659 --> 00:43:12.219 started to make sense to me is when I really 00:43:12.219 --> 00:43:14.260 broke down, okay, what does it mean to be converted? 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.980 Right? So for me, and I'll just share my own 00:43:17.980 --> 00:43:20.800 experience, my own definition, but for me to 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:25.670 be converted is for me to be changed. For sure. 00:43:26.769 --> 00:43:31.769 So if I convert something, I change it. If I 00:43:31.769 --> 00:43:37.469 convert my gasoline vehicle to a different type 00:43:37.469 --> 00:43:40.590 of fuel, that goes through a conversion process. 00:43:41.579 --> 00:43:45.440 And it's the same with us. You know, we are natural 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.079 men. If we look in Mosiah chapter three, verse 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.800 19, for the natural man is an enemy of God and 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.219 has been from the fall of Adam and will be for 00:43:55.219 --> 00:43:59.820 ever and ever unless. Circle that word. Seems 00:43:59.820 --> 00:44:02.849 like we talk about this every week. I know. Unless 00:44:02.849 --> 00:44:05.210 he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit 00:44:05.210 --> 00:44:07.989 and putteth off the natural man, and becomeeth 00:44:07.989 --> 00:44:11.409 a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, 00:44:11.750 --> 00:44:14.849 and becomeeth as a child, submissive, meek, humble, 00:44:15.090 --> 00:44:18.210 patient, full of love, willing to submit to all 00:44:18.210 --> 00:44:20.909 things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon 00:44:20.909 --> 00:44:24.150 him, even as a child does submit to his father. 00:44:24.710 --> 00:44:27.929 I love that, and it's important, because it helps 00:44:27.929 --> 00:44:31.400 me realize I need to be converted. I need to 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:34.940 be changed and I will be a natural man forever 00:44:34.940 --> 00:44:38.480 and ever unless I yield to the enticings of the 00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:41.199 Holy Spirit, the administrator of the atonement 00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:43.280 of Jesus Christ and putteth off the natural man 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.539 through the atonement of Jesus Christ. And then 00:44:45.539 --> 00:44:48.380 it reminds that takes us if we if we'll go from 00:44:48.380 --> 00:44:49.900 there. Let me interrupt while you're looking 00:44:49.900 --> 00:44:53.920 at the scripture is what is what is repentance 00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:58.139 changing? Yeah, what is converting? Yeah, changing. 00:44:58.590 --> 00:45:00.650 You know, we're talking about the same thing 00:45:00.650 --> 00:45:02.989 with two different words. And I think, you know, 00:45:03.070 --> 00:45:08.010 as we change daily, I go back to President Nelson's 00:45:08.010 --> 00:45:12.889 invitation to find joy in repentance daily. Yeah. 00:45:13.289 --> 00:45:17.349 You know, are you are you finding joy in changing 00:45:17.349 --> 00:45:22.809 daily, in converting daily? Think about that. 00:45:22.809 --> 00:45:26.309 Yeah, yeah. And it requires that, doesn't it? 00:45:26.710 --> 00:45:29.309 Absolutely. That's a daily process for me. Yeah. 00:45:29.829 --> 00:45:32.610 The talk from President Nelson that talks about 00:45:32.610 --> 00:45:38.469 having confidence before the Lord to have charity. 00:45:38.650 --> 00:45:40.230 Yeah, let your confidence lack strong in the 00:45:40.230 --> 00:45:43.610 presence of God. And by doing that, you exercise 00:45:43.610 --> 00:45:47.320 charity. and virtue. And there's times that something 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:49.820 will come into my head and I literally will say, 00:45:50.019 --> 00:45:52.719 virtue, virtue, virtue. I literally repeat that 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:54.980 word over and over in my head. I'm like, okay, 00:45:54.980 --> 00:45:58.059 virtue, virtue, virtue. Especially when I'm angry 00:45:58.059 --> 00:46:01.019 or whatever. And then even charity, that is the 00:46:01.019 --> 00:46:04.420 pure love of Christ. And there are times when 00:46:04.420 --> 00:46:08.079 I do not have love in my heart towards a situation 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:11.659 or a circumstance, or even sometimes a person 00:46:11.659 --> 00:46:14.889 that is like, I'm not feeling very sure. I don't 00:46:14.889 --> 00:46:17.510 feel like I have much charity right now. But 00:46:17.510 --> 00:46:19.710 yeah, it's a great reminder. Those two words 00:46:19.710 --> 00:46:22.369 are pretty powerful for me. You know, I read 00:46:22.369 --> 00:46:25.269 Mosiah 319 where we learn that we're a natural 00:46:25.269 --> 00:46:28.550 man, enemy of God, all that. We also learn from 00:46:28.550 --> 00:46:30.989 that that's through the atonement that we can 00:46:30.989 --> 00:46:34.010 put off the natural man. I love this scripture 00:46:34.010 --> 00:46:37.949 also in Moroni chapter 10. I'm going to read 00:46:37.949 --> 00:46:42.929 verses 32 and 33, Deb. And the answer is here. 00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.139 Yay, come unto Christ and be perfected in Him. 00:46:47.150 --> 00:46:50.030 That's it. There's your answer. Come unto Christ 00:46:50.030 --> 00:46:53.090 and be perfected in Him. Completed. Doesn't perfect 00:46:53.090 --> 00:46:55.989 mean completed? It means completed. Yeah. So 00:46:55.989 --> 00:46:59.090 be completed in Him or finished. It's the only 00:46:59.090 --> 00:47:02.070 way we're going to do it. By Him and through 00:47:02.070 --> 00:47:04.090 Him. And as soon as I say that's it, there's 00:47:04.090 --> 00:47:05.849 your answer right there. Everybody's like, oh, 00:47:05.889 --> 00:47:08.469 give me a break. Like that's easy, right? Yeah. 00:47:08.590 --> 00:47:11.610 Come unto Christ and be perfected in Him and 00:47:11.610 --> 00:47:15.010 deny yourselves of all ungodliness. And if you 00:47:15.010 --> 00:47:17.070 shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, Godliness 00:47:17.070 --> 00:47:20.590 and love God with all your might mind and strength 00:47:20.590 --> 00:47:25.869 Then is his grace sufficient for you and by his 00:47:25.869 --> 00:47:30.969 grace you may be perfect in Christ So there it 00:47:30.969 --> 00:47:33.929 is. We're made complete. We're made perfect in 00:47:33.929 --> 00:47:36.510 Christ. We didn't earn it He did right we're 00:47:36.510 --> 00:47:40.010 made perfect in Christ and If by the grace of 00:47:40.010 --> 00:47:42.469 God, you are perfect in Christ you can in no 00:47:42.469 --> 00:47:46.300 wise deny the power of God We align with Christ 00:47:46.300 --> 00:47:48.940 at home and we're bound to feel the power of 00:47:48.940 --> 00:47:52.539 God in our lives. This is the key. And again, 00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:56.679 if ye by the grace of God are perfect in Christ 00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:01.679 and deny not His power, then are ye sanctified 00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:05.579 in Christ by the grace of God through the shedding 00:48:05.579 --> 00:48:09.300 of the blood of Christ, which is in the covenant 00:48:09.300 --> 00:48:12.139 of the Father unto the remission of your sins 00:48:12.139 --> 00:48:18.289 that you become holy. without spot. Sanctification. 00:48:19.789 --> 00:48:23.789 Holy without spot. I just wanna have some of 00:48:23.789 --> 00:48:27.969 the spots that I bump up against in this mortal 00:48:27.969 --> 00:48:31.190 experience removed from me. This is pretty, this 00:48:31.190 --> 00:48:35.670 is a pretty grand promise. Or a pretty grand 00:48:35.670 --> 00:48:38.610 doctrine here, Deb. And you know, for those of 00:48:38.610 --> 00:48:41.429 us who experience the fall in its various forms, 00:48:41.929 --> 00:48:46.570 which we all do, here's our answer. It's through 00:48:46.570 --> 00:48:51.909 Jesus Christ and only through Him. As Paul would 00:48:51.909 --> 00:48:56.150 say, through Christ Jesus and Him crucified that 00:48:56.150 --> 00:48:58.989 we're able to receive these conditional blessings 00:48:58.989 --> 00:49:01.789 of His Atonement. Well, I look forward to the 00:49:01.789 --> 00:49:07.210 day that I can become holy. Yeah. You know, that 00:49:07.210 --> 00:49:11.130 I can be perfected through Christ. And until 00:49:11.130 --> 00:49:14.829 then, we'll just keep muddling through this messy 00:49:14.829 --> 00:49:18.449 world and this life. I'm thinking about, you 00:49:18.449 --> 00:49:21.710 know, our listeners are listening for so many. 00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.960 varied reasons. Some are struggling with addictions, 00:49:25.980 --> 00:49:28.639 I know for that for a fact, some are struggling, 00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:32.199 you know, like alcoholism, and even other types 00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:35.280 of addictions. And some are struggling with testimony, 00:49:35.340 --> 00:49:38.420 some are struggling with the ability to fill 00:49:38.420 --> 00:49:42.000 the spirit in their life because of some of the 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.699 mental illnesses and stuff like that, that we 00:49:44.699 --> 00:49:47.559 just experienced because of the fallen world, 00:49:47.780 --> 00:49:51.400 Deb. The unfairness. Yeah, I just justice. I 00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.820 hope and pray that just somehow, some way, the 00:49:54.820 --> 00:49:57.800 Spirit can reach us through the things that we're 00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:02.139 sharing here and just somehow relieve us, put 00:50:02.139 --> 00:50:06.019 comfort in our hearts, put solution in our minds, 00:50:06.139 --> 00:50:12.059 and put the comfort of the comforter to wrap 00:50:12.059 --> 00:50:14.360 us in his loving arms as we just go through life, 00:50:14.380 --> 00:50:17.579 which can be hard. He can give us rest if we 00:50:17.579 --> 00:50:20.039 come to him, and peace. Come unto me, all ye 00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:23.260 that labor. They're heavy laden, and I will give 00:50:23.260 --> 00:50:26.599 you rest. Well, we probably ought to close it 00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:29.300 up today, Doug, but just like we say every time, 00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:33.019 we're glad you're all here. We hope you'll keep 00:50:33.019 --> 00:50:35.679 coming. We hope you feel welcome here. Above 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.480 all that, we hope that you know that Jesus isn't 00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:40.260 just waiting for you to clean everything up. 00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:42.699 He's waiting for you to come to Him just the 00:50:42.699 --> 00:50:46.559 way you are. Yep, he meets us in our mess right 00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:49.440 in the middle of it That's where his grace shines 00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.139 the brightest and if we cry out, you know We've 00:50:52.139 --> 00:50:54.699 heard a lot of stories about being in prison 00:50:54.699 --> 00:50:57.300 and being in the darkest of dark. I mean you've 00:50:57.300 --> 00:51:01.099 shared your part of He'll come and meet us in 00:51:01.099 --> 00:51:04.500 it In the mess and his grace shines the brightest 00:51:04.500 --> 00:51:08.000 so come as you are Broken hopeful questioning 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:11.139 searching. You're truly not alone I wish I could 00:51:11.139 --> 00:51:14.659 see all of your faces and just give you a hug 00:51:14.659 --> 00:51:18.920 and a smile because That's just who I am. I just 00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.900 would love to see you all you're not alone. That's 00:51:21.900 --> 00:51:25.539 the important part is you're not alone In fact, 00:51:26.099 --> 00:51:29.239 we'd love to stay connected with you. Samantha 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:32.300 in Brisbane, Australia. She's teaching the same 00:51:32.300 --> 00:51:35.320 class stuff. Isn't that great? I love it. She 00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:37.480 sent a message on Facebook. I would like to hear 00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.320 her teach. She said that she has a tricky sister 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:42.300 that lives in Ormuta, so I'm hoping that we get 00:51:42.300 --> 00:51:43.880 an opportunity to maybe meet her someday. Meet 00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.320 the tricky sister. Yeah, but you know, if you 00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:48.480 like what you've been hearing here, if you like 00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:51.440 the hope that is being provided through the atonement 00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:53.679 of Jesus Christ, we know we're not professionals. 00:51:54.219 --> 00:51:56.880 We're just a couple of sinners trying to help 00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:59.460 sinners. We do fill an obligation because of 00:51:59.460 --> 00:52:02.179 the way that Heavenly Father has lifted us and 00:52:02.179 --> 00:52:04.400 given us some opportunities to share these things. 00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:06.599 We feel like we're obligated to do that, and 00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:08.619 we love doing it. So, you know, if you have any 00:52:08.619 --> 00:52:11.000 thoughts or questions, please email them to us. 00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:14.980 You can do that at heredeemsusatgmail .com. Yeah, 00:52:15.059 --> 00:52:17.969 we read every one. And if this episode touched 00:52:17.969 --> 00:52:20.510 your heart, we hope that you'll share it with 00:52:20.510 --> 00:52:22.809 someone you love, a friend, a family member, 00:52:23.309 --> 00:52:25.610 anyone who could use a little bit more hope right 00:52:25.610 --> 00:52:28.710 now. Next week we'll be continuing with the conditional 00:52:28.710 --> 00:52:31.429 effects of Christ's atonement. We've gotten through 00:52:31.429 --> 00:52:33.769 most of those, but next week we'll be talking 00:52:33.769 --> 00:52:36.510 about some big ones. They're all big ones. Some 00:52:36.510 --> 00:52:39.510 really important ones. Again, we'll be talking 00:52:39.510 --> 00:52:43.750 about reconciliation with God. We'll talk about 00:52:43.750 --> 00:52:46.829 becoming children of Christ, and then we're going 00:52:46.829 --> 00:52:50.429 to kind of take a little segue into the merits 00:52:50.429 --> 00:52:54.349 of Christ as part of His Atonement. So, we look 00:52:54.349 --> 00:52:56.070 forward to being with you then. Just remember, 00:52:56.090 --> 00:52:58.510 He lifts us, He transforms us, and He does it 00:52:58.510 --> 00:53:01.190 in our everyday lives, so hopefully we can apply 00:53:01.190 --> 00:53:02.449 what we're learning here and there. He can be 00:53:02.449 --> 00:53:06.250 transformed, converted. Well, thanks for being 00:53:06.250 --> 00:53:09.449 with us, my friends, our friends, and remember, 00:53:09.590 --> 00:53:12.260 there is always hope through Him. because you 00:53:12.260 --> 00:53:14.280 have been redeemed through his blood. Thanks 00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:15.780 for being with us everybody. We look forward 00:53:15.780 --> 00:53:19.300 to being with you again next week and until then, 00:53:19.460 --> 00:53:19.900 be well.