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Hey there everybody welcome out to another episode of Redeem Through His Blood.

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Scott and David Durfey here as always.

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How are you Dave?

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I'm so good Scott.

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How you doing?

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I'm doing well.

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Are you?

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Yeah.

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You look so good.

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Well you know that's what happens when you work at home.

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I guess it is.

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You know you show up in shorts and a t-shirt.

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Well until it's time to.

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No socks and yeah.

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Well that's you know.

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What's up with that?

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Well don't go out in public my dad would say.

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Yeah he would say that.

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My dad would say the same thing.

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He would definitely say the same thing.

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You know when the pandemic hit we all started wearing shorts to work you know in our homes

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and stuff.

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I think the last class I taught maybe was a zoom class and I had my white shirt and tie

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on.

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And shorts.

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And shorts.

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I was just going to say that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah so I'm on I'm actually on television two or three times a week and it's I'm never

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on television if I'm not wearing you know I'm usually wearing shorts and a white shirt

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and a jacket but it's you know you can't see that it's from the white stuff so I'm not

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the only one I can promise you that.

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Hey listen great great episode last week as we talked a little bit and wound up the series

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on receiving revelation.

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Horse on revelation.

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This week I'm going to break a little news to you.

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We are we are wrapping up the podcast.

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This will be maybe the fourth to the last or third to the last episode and and so David

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and I have chosen a topic that we will be wrapping up our series or our three years together

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with a very important topic and it's the I think the topic Dave that really really inspires

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all of what we have done.

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You know we we we talk a lot about the scripture in where is it's in Luke right Luke chapter

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Very needful thing.

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Yeah so Martha Martha that aren't encumbered about by many things.

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So talk to us a little bit about Dave what what are we talking about Martha because she's

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she's me she's you she's all of us you know seeking to do good things seeking to serve

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and and she wasn't doing anything wrong she was just busy busy and Mary sitting at the

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feet of Jesus trying to learn and Martha notices well how come I'm doing all the work how come

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I'm working so hard outcome and goes over and brings all that up to Jesus and he he he

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doesn't chastiser but I just think this is such a critical message for all of us who

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just love to do checklist and love to be busy and love to think that busy is some sort of

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a a mark or sign of success or productivity and and it's not you know there was a great

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talk on that in general conference I I love Bishop Budge I I worked one afternoon with

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Bishop Budge and I was in the stake presidency visiting families and and his talk that he

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did the Japanese calligraphy and talked about you know you can you can work really hard

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and be still you can work really hard and and not be doing anything and you know the

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the meditation and mental exertion and everything that it takes I think to be a to be a real

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disciple and to be someone who really worships it's about stillness waiting upon the Lord

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we talked a little bit about that which which can mean serving which definitely means ministering

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which definitely means taking care of the poor and needy and others but anyway back to Luke

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10 so Jesus says what verses it's got it starts in it starts in 40 yeah where does he where

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does he tell Martha well I'm just gonna read I'll just read the whole thing so this is

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in 40 but Martha was comfort about much serving and came to him and said Lord does that thou

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not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone bid her therefore that she should help

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me and Jesus answered and said under her Martha Martha thou art careful and troubled about

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many things but careful and troubled but one thing is needful but one thing is yeah so

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it's that one needful thing you know we we started our podcast three years ago Scott

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can you believe that yeah it's gonna fast and we we after some discussion decided to

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call it and title it redeemed through his blood and and really I think what was primarily

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in my heart and mind was the idea that we this is a gospel of redemption not a gospel

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of assimilation not a gospel of accumulation and this is a gospel of redemption which

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at the heart and center of that there has to be a redeemer and we have to be redeemed

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this is not a gospel about assimilating good habits or accumulating good deeds this is

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a gospel of redemption and that was kind of at the center of my thoughts and my feelings

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in the title of our podcast redeemed through his blood if if we were to do another podcast

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maybe we will after my surgery and mission and all of that that is going to be taking

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place here soon maybe maybe we should just call it you know one needful thing because

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everything that we've talked about Scott repentance the revelation all the things that we've said

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and done all the guests that we've had it it really in my mind comes down to connecting

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with deity connecting with God being being bound to him having a relationship with him

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feeling his spirit in our lives knowing that the Savior is my personal Savior knowing that

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we are who we are as sons and daughters of God and who's we are having had our lives

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purchased by his blood as Paul taught and others anyway it really comes down to that

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comes down to relationships connections and being bound to heaven deity so even thinking

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about that this week Scott in terms of the course on revelation that we just taught

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and I'm grateful for those who have come up to me personally friends and told me how grateful

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they were and how it was going to kind of change how they pray or whatever I I've been

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grateful for what it's done in my life the effect it's had in my life not just the course

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on revelation I guess but the podcast itself but this week just this week my prayers have

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been it my prayers have been trying to connect with Heavenly Father in that's been the whole

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sole purpose of my prayers is to to feel like I'm connecting to him that there's a relationship

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there it hasn't been to get what I want it hasn't been to ask him for this or that or

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even thank him for this or that I've done that of course I've done that but the whole

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purpose objective of my prayers have been to connect connect to heaven and it's changed

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my approach it's changed my my emotional mental state and my attitude about it my my feelings

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about it and it's kind of it's not that my not what I what I've said hasn't been that

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different but what I have felt has been different and I just think there are so many things

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that we do in the gospel in the church in life that if we would just make our objective

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today this hour in this moment to feel a connection with heaven and to be connected to deity while

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we would walk more circumspectly we would walk more humbly we would be more more meek

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we would definitely be more loving and be filled with faith and hope and charity so

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I don't know Scott those are just some thoughts and the other way I would like to conclude

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our podcast at least is to kind of maybe summarize how can we use the gospel to restore

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the gospel of Jesus Christ in strengthening our relationship and connection with heaven

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some you said so much there one of the things that you said is that the way that you have

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approached your prayer your connection with heavenly father has changed not only the things

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that you've said but the things that you have felt right during yeah so expand on that

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well you know I've said I prayed for the same things I've thanked him for my family and

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I pray for their their peace and their protection their deliverance I've used the same words

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right but my attitude and my feeling has been different and it wasn't to get what I wanted

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it was to feel his power his strength his love his influence his spirit in my life yeah

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I wanted to be connected to him and I wanted him to know that I wanted to be connected

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him it wasn't about him being connected to me so much it was I want him to know you know

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I had an epiphany years ago Scott that has affected me in all my relationships and I

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was really struggling with a one particular Institute class at the Utah Valley Institute

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this and this is when I was the director of the Institute and I was teaching I was still

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teaching a couple classes and this one class I was just really struggling because I felt

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like they didn't like me you know I felt like I wasn't connecting to them and that they

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didn't feel connected to me and I was a little it was always a little fearful for me to go

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into that class and this pretty early on in the semester this like the third or fourth

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week and so before this class I was feeling a little a little discouragement I guess about

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teaching it and I thought I can't go in there like this way I closed all my doors and knelt

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in the corner where nobody could see me and through the door the glass the glass window

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in the door I got in a little corner over by the safe or would keep her all the money

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of the Institute and the illness corner and I prayed and the epiphany that came to me

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was David not not necessarily that voice this how it felt but I'm sure it was a mild

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me little softer loving voice but a little a little correction in chastisement which

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none of us should should run from David it doesn't matter what they think about you it

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only matters what they know you think about them.

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Yeah, the only thing that matters is what they know you think about them so I it just

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flipped me Scott I didn't care what they thought about me I just may needed to make sure that

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they knew I loved them it completely changed that lesson and the rest of the semester and

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my relationship with that class well the same is true in my relationship with my heavenly

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father it's not so important to me what he thinks about me I want him to know what I

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think about him that's what I tried to do this week was I really earnestly tried in

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my prayers to help him to know how I feel and think about him that changed everything

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yeah and I think so many of us are just too worried about what he thinks about us now

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I I know what he thinks about us thoughts of kindness by the way I love that somebody

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quoted one of my favorite scriptures in general conference in Jeremiah 29 yeah we can we read

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that Scott yeah it's kind of fundamental to this discussion in the next few weeks of final

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weeks of our podcast it's in Jeremiah Jeremiah 29 you know this is Israel has been awful

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they've been they've been worshiping other gods they've they've actually actually been

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involved in human sacrifice and and they become so so wicked and evil and it's amazing how

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God how he talks to them through the prophet and how he feels about them and so I guess

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I guess fundamentally we should all know how God feels about us if you know God you know

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how he feels about you but that's not what really matters what really matters is not

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what he thinks about me but what he knows that I think about him that's what matters

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and that completely changes your approach to your prayers to the going to church it's

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not about I'm going to church so I can get blessings or so that he'll yeah so they he'll

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be I'll be acceptable yeah so that so that God will be happy with me sure I'm not going

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to church so God will be happy with me right I'm going to church because I want him to

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know I love him I'm going to church to worship him I'm saying my prayers because I don't want

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him to be mad at me you know I I mean you know we think I'm I gotta say my prayers because

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I don't want to be mad at me or I don't want to disqualify myself from a specific blessing

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right but instead instead what if we prayed yeah I'm I've got to pray so he knows where

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I'm at so he knows where my heart is now I know he knows our hearts I know he knows his

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thoughts but it's so important in our relationship that we know that he knows how we feel about

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him so I love I love this verse and I was really grateful I think it was one of the

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sisters actually in general conference who quoted it Scott it's Jeremiah 29 and again

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I can't I can't even it doesn't seem appropriate describe how wicked Israel had become and Jeremiah

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speaking on behalf of the Lord listen to especially the first a few words here verse 10 Scott

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10 through we'll just read for a minute starting with first 10 Jeremiah 29 for thus say a

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the Lord I'll say it the Lord not Jeremiah okay for thus say it the Lord that after 70

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years being accomplished at Babylon I will visit you and perform my good word toward

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you in causing you to return to this place okay so after you wander after you've been

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captured after you've been taken captive into Babylon and removed and and lost lost your

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inheritance and blessings and promised land okay keep going so 11 for I know the thoughts

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that I think toward you say if the Lord thoughts of peace and not of evil to give you an expected

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end then shall you call upon me and you shall go and pray unto me and I will harken unto

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you and you shall seek me and find me when you shall search for me with all your heart

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and I will be found of you say if the Lord and I will turn away your captivity and I

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will gather you from all nations and from all the places whether I have driven you say

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if the Lord and I will bring you again into the place when I caused you to be carried

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away captive isn't that awesome yeah I love the verse 11 this is one of my favorite scriptures

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in the Old Testament for I know the thoughts I think toward you remember this is the word

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of the Lord I know the thoughts that I think towards you say at the Lord thoughts of peace

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and not of evil even though they were really really evil and he says I I have peace I'm

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not wringing my hands over you I'm not mad at you I have peace that's a good lesson you

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know I thoughts of peace not of evil right to give you an expected and I know how this

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can end I know how this is gonna go is it's gonna be fine you know repent of course repent

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but anyway I I don't I just wish I wish I guess we knew we knew God and we knew how

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much he loved us because I I think I know that and I know that I'm not I'm not perfect

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and I'm not sinless and I have lots of reasons for and I do lots of things for God to not

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be pleased or happy with me but I know he loves me even when I do those things that

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don't know necessarily please him I know his thoughts towards me thoughts of peace loving

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kindness and and so I it doesn't when I pray when I go to church when I try to live strive

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to live the gospel it's it's not because I'm worried about what he thinks about me or what

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he's going to think about me I know what he thinks about me what's really important which

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completely changes how you pray how you keep the commandments all the commandments why

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we make and keep covenants why we go to church you know all those things why we minister

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everything why I repent is because I want him to know what I think and how I feel about

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him that's I just think really really important and in the few weeks that we have left you

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know I hope that will kind of be the the foundation upon which we can build discussion on how

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can we strengthen our our relationship and connection with him you know if you really

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think about kind of the objective and the purpose behind our entire podcast you know

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it it has been to do this for us to understand and know the one needful thing to make that

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connection to do as it instructs us in Alcoholics Anonymous in step 11 to strive to maintain

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conscious contact through prayer meditation with our Heavenly Father striving only to

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know his will for us in the power to carry that out right and that's all great the problem

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is is that if we're just tuning in today and this is our first podcast and our and our

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life has been a little bit out of tune we're going to hear this and we're going to be

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a little overwhelmed because it's going to feel untouchable to a degree to us yeah and

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so what we need to remember is this that this whole podcast really works together has worked

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together as a whole right you know we begin in the beginning of the each season identity

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we talk about identity who we are whose we are how our identity is our eternity and and

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really part of that Scott is not just knowing who we are but when you talk about who we

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are as sons and daughters of God you have to know who God is right because if you don't

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know who God is man you know we've quoted this many times Prophet Joseph Smith that

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man cannot be again to comprehend himself until he comprehends God you can't I mean

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to say I'm a son of God doesn't mean really anything if God's not really special to me

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that's right if I don't really know God if I don't know his sovereignty his power his

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omnipotence his on my presence his his omni omniscience thank you yeah if I if I don't

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know the three O's of God and I don't know about his love and I don't know about his

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divinity and his power then to say I'm a son of God big deal but so identity you know includes

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his identity exactly his identity my identity how those work together what it means in combination

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as opposed to what it means in separation and all of that yeah and then we talk about

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you know what you just alluded to or actually what we talked about last week I just listened

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to that podcast so it seemed like it just happened today but what we talked about last

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week when when when we talk about the fall of Adam and Eve and you know and how that

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was all part of Heavenly Father that not part of that was you know a main component to Heavenly

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Father's plan and there were sons and daughters of Adam and Eve and then the human the effects

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of the fall and how the effects of the fall all part of our progress and Heavenly Father's

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not surprised by it or mad by it or any of that and then and then how do we answer the

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effects of the fall well that's the effects of the atonement of Jesus Christ right and

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that and that's where the one needful thing actually that's where we gain entrance to the

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one needful thing is by learning how to put on the atonement of Jesus Christ now what you

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just described David is literally the putting on of the atonement of Jesus Christ yeah yeah

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no it really you're right about that Scott because that that really does affect everything

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and you know that was so awesome I think that was quoted two or three times in general conference

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was that everything's an appendage yeah everything and everything Joe quoting Joseph Smith that

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everything in the gospel is an appendage to Jesus Christ and him crucified that he lived

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and he died and that he you know Joseph Smith didn't say he suffered but I'll say suffered

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for our sins and was resurrected the third day so you know everything's an appendage

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to that yeah everything is around that that's the center of the entire plan of redemption

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that is the plan and the more that we can feel that in our lives tap into that express

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our gratitude for that I mean this this is another central theme of our podcast Scott

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and I thought I hope the center of of our lives yours and mine and everyone else is

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gratitude is a principle of salvation and gratitude for the atonement of Jesus Christ

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changes everything about our desires and as brother sweet brother Ed Penninger once said

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quote gratitude is the beginning of desire and gratitude for the atonement of Jesus Christ

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is what changes our desires and based upon what you believe feel and know about the atonement

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of Jesus Christ will change your gratitude you know I talked to someone recently just

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grieving and was having such a hard time in in rising above their grief and their mourning

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and I understand and that that takes time and it's different for everybody so I'm not

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being critical at all here but my counsel was you need to focus more on Christ and

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his suffering and be filled with gratitude because gratitude will change your desire

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yeah well and focus on Christ and his suffering you know I think back to a talk I don't I can't

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recall it but I know that was elder or president Nelson when and I think this was actually the

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name name of the talk that that Jesus Christ is the answer to everything yeah he's he has

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said that lots of times hasn't yeah yeah the not only answer to all our questions but the

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solution to all our problems so he's the answer and the solution right and and that has been

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I think and you know and and according to all of the responses and you know would love to

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continue to get more at he redeems us at gmail.com but according to a lot of the responses that

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we've received over the last few years from our listeners this has been the journey that

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we have needed to embark on so that we could begin to fill all these things in our lives

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that we're talking about that connection that love and you know and as we have as we've

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been instructed by you and and through the Doctrine and Covenants section six you know

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to think and think of me in in every thought doubt not fear not you know it's kind of the

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one needful thing yeah right right that's my point how I see it yeah you connect Luke

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10 with Dr. and Covenants section six the one needful thing is to look unto me and every

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thought doubt not fear not behold the wounds that pierce my side in the Prince of the Nails

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of my hands and feet if that were our focus changes everything everything and so you know

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if we're talking about what we're talking about today what we're really at is kind of

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a maintenance step you know to maintain that conscious contact to maintain that relationship

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to maintain that connection with deity is really how we maintain all of the stuff that

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we've been putting into place getting to know him learning to love him becoming more like

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him understanding the effects of the fall and how they're offset by the effects of Christ's

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Atonement and his power not by the Atonement but by his power through made available to

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us through his Atonement right that's better yeah and so to really understand and begin

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to in a small way comprehend that power that's made available to us through his Atonement

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what power redemptive power enabling power compensatory power enabling and strengthening

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can be you know synonymous work one together as we as we examine our lives and as we see

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the things in our lives and each of us will if we examine truthfully and honestly and

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courageously etc as we look and examine our lives there will be things that need better

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alignment with our heavenly fathers will yeah yeah absolutely and and we have talked about

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and we have a pattern now that that will afford us a way to make that alignment which increases

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our faith which increases our repentance which increases our participation in ordinances

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and covenants which increases our ability to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost which

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will help us to endure to the end and that is the doctrine of Christ amen you know Scott

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I have a question for you so because I want to I want to just go back to this for a minute

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we we did a whole course on repentance and I'm not sure I ever really said this or we

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discussed this but if if when we repented if our concern was more I need to know what

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he thinks about me if our concern was more I need him to know how I think and feel about

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him how would that change your repentance that is all of the difference right I mean

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so we think about it you know so I think about it and we've done this a lot in the podcast

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too I think about earthly experiences you know where if I'm going to be in trouble at

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home when I'm a kid and I'm going to be trouble at home is it more important for me what my

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dad and mom think of me or what I'm thinking of them and that's that's an interesting concept

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to consider but as a kid obviously I think naturally we we move into the self-preservation

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fight or flight modes right right and we become more focused and when I say we I should say

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me I become more focused in those cases on what they're thinking of me because because

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the outcome is dependent on what they think of me yeah right it's different though with

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our with our heavenly relationship the outcome is not dependent on what he thinks of me the

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outcome is is how hard I'm striving to let him know how much I think of him how much

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I love him and if and if my and if my life is in accordance to that aligned with that

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you know make makes that come true in all parts of my life if my life is living like

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that if I'm living my life like that then the maintenance of that is simply through my daily

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worship well I know I know some people you know I've seen students several students in

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my office they kind of express sometimes how they're burning out how they're giving up

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how they're falling out yeah their crisis in with faith and their their whole thing

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is that they're not sure how God feels about them I mean it's different for different people

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and individually they got different different circumstance but but that's kind of what I

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hear is they're not sure how God feels about them they they they've done everything and

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they still don't know if he's forgiven them and and and of course I know that's not true

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because so many times people say I don't feel forgiven and I said well okay are you paying

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your tithing are you ministering are you serving are you using instruments of grace are you

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you know I mean they're they're so focused on their sins of commission and they neglect

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the way to your matters of the law which may be their sins of omission anyway but the the

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whole thing is is that they're and I know it's important to know what God thinks of

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us and are standing before him I know that's important but even more important in regards

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to my motivation and how I live the gospel is am I more worried about what he thinks

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about me or am I more concerned I don't I don't want to use the word worried but am

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I more concerned or am I more diligent in striving to express how I feel about him and

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it just just for example the the commandment to attend church and participate in the ordinances

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of the gospel do I do I go to saccharim meeting do I go to the temple because because I'm

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worried about what he thinks about me and I'm I'm trying to to to prove myself to him

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or am I going because I want him to know how I feel I'm I want him to know what I think

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about him I it just changes how you worship and it kind of comes down to that Scott the

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real relationship connection and the the our whole of being bound to God is tied up in

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how we choose to worship not work it shouldn't be called temple work elder with so said this

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almost a hundred years ago I think it was in the 1930s elder elder with so the great

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scientist you know apostle elder with so we shouldn't call it temple work we should call

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it temple worship man I remember reading that when I was I think I was a missionary and

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thinking wow that that's a whole different approach.

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Well so I have a question for you what's the difference then or and I know that there's

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differences but help us differentiate the difference between work and worship in that

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regard because because let me preface because I think a lot of times our doings can be the

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same right I mean we can do we can do one thing and it can be worship and we can do

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that same thing right and it not necessarily be worship so how do we differentiate what's

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the difference yeah well it's it comes down right to your attitudes your feelings and

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your belief in your faith and and really your motivation for why you're doing it again I

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think it's work it becomes and what I there I'm not I'm not I don't want to put a negative

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connotation on work works important that works a commandment that was one of the first commandment

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given to Adam works great works important in the gospel without faith without works there

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is no faith and right and faith without works is dead so but but work as we humans kind

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of usually see it is you know it's so hard it's so I gotta do this I have to do it and

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it becomes like work I have to do this instead of I I want to do this I I love to do this

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I is kind of our motivation the difference in our motivation the difference between work

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and worship I want to go worship I want him to know how I feel this is a this is a joy

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and an opportunity a pleasure for me to do to do this instead of grip my teeth and grind

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it out and and you know anyway I kind of see work as being about me and worship yeah being

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about him there you go I love that yeah yeah I love that that's that's the difference in

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the motivation I think it is for me it is so you know what am I trying to earn here that's

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it instead of right am I yeah trying to express because if I'm focused on the work then I want

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to make sure I get proper credit yeah I want to make sure I get proper compensation as

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it were right you know there's that there's a set of expectations that set there and those

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expectations are managed by me yeah not the spirit in those situations and and yeah so

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I see that that a big difference is being work is about me and what I'm doing and worship

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is about him I used to do a fireside well what I would do firesides years ago and you

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know it seemed to me what seemed to resonate most with young adults and with youth in the

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church and and really with their parents is this question I was I would usually start

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with this question are you working for the gospel or is the gospel working for you how

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do you see it that's what I would ask and I'd say well I I want to talk about that do

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you feel like you're working for the gospel or do you feel like the gospel is working

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for you now I think in their mind they would maybe go to church and they would they would

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equate gospel with church and of course that was kind of my at the essence was that the

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gospel is working its it's redemptive it's it does everything for us Christ did everything

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for us the gospel of Jesus Christ is always working in our lives it is never not working

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for us the gospel the church can sometimes feel sometimes like you know but but again

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it depends on your motivation your your why you're doing it anyway I I just think there's

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too many in the church who feel like they're working for the gospel and they don't understand

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how the gospel Jesus Christ is always working for them that just opened my eyes a lot I

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have felt like I've been working for the gospel sometimes recently of course right I mean

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I think about now I'm no longer in a leadership position in our ward but when I was in that

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elders corn presidency and I had that and I had a institute and I had all of these other

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things that we were doing sometimes it just the podcast sometimes it just felt like I

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was working for the gospel now I know I know and I know that the accusers the one that

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made me feel that way as I was feeling that way and even sometimes recently I had told

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Deb the other day I just feel like I'm between one big event to the next and I'm so picked

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on poor me you know feeling sorry for myself that's when I feel like I'm working for the

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gospel yeah exactly yeah but if I had the gospel working for me it energizes me in a

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different way to that approach if you had the one needful thing and if your focus was

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what it should be if your focus was on the Savior and his suffering yeah and and you

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saw that all the effects yeah just of it you know I if you saw the effects of his suffering

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and all the blessings the compensatory powers and enabling redemptive powers if you if you

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saw that felt that as we should when we look under him in every thought Scott it well it

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changes your daily life moment by moment it changes us you know you know so Dave I think

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as we kind of wind down here we should probably come up with some invitations a couple of

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ideas a couple of things that we could we could really work on this week that wouldn't

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be too difficult but maybe stretch us enough a little bit to we'd be able to fill our heavenly

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Father Spirit and doing that so do you have any thoughts around that well honestly I invite

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our listeners to just be a little more concerned I don't want to sensationalize this or grand

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eyes this or anything but just be a little more concerned about how does how does God

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how how do I express my gratitude to God how how can I help him know how I feel about him

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how can I help him know the feelings and intense of my heart and how grateful I am I I guess

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I guess that would be an invitation and worry less about what's he thinking about me what's

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he you know I why are we so as humans Scott we're that way with each other we're that

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way oh man I hate this social media stuff and what is it about our human tendencies our

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fallen nature to be so worried about what others think about us and then it transfers

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to what God thinks about us when if we really knew God we would know how he feels towards

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us I have thoughts of kindness of peace towards you not of evil but why is it that we are

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so insecure about that I think I know obviously it's because of the fall right because of

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the fall of Adam and Eve we feel that way and because of the separation that's there

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but I but I think that this is also part of the plan you know if we go back again and

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we look in revelations and we read about the accuser accusing us both night and day I think

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that I know I think it's also part of the heavenly father's plan that we struggle or

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that we strive or that we wrestle to have these experiences in our lives because if

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it was easy for us to fill that if it was if we could of ourselves command that spirit

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command that feeling to reside within us indefinitely then we would have less need or dependency

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on the relationship with deity with specifically we would be less dependent or we would fill

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potentially less dependent on Jesus's merits yeah instead of our own yeah good good

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point I like that and I think another invitation for our another thought for our listeners

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to consider is what does it really mean to you to pray always yeah what does that really

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mean what does that look like and if again we have changed our approach to prayer where

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instead of us always asking for things or wanting things if prayer if the heart of prayer

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had to do with our relationship with him and remembering that relationship and if prayer

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at the very really center and heart of it was to express and help him to know how we

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feel about him and worrying less about how he feels about us you know how how would

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you see praying always and maybe experiment with that you know to pray always to just

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always have a prayer in our heart and mind to experiment with that and to experiment

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with looking under him in every thought I think are kind of you know synonymous activities

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yeah but I just wish our listeners would really maybe take one day or a week and just just

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see if that's possible to do that and to see if they can make any small improvements in

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praying always and I lot you know it's in the scriptures about ten times that commandment

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to pray always that you may come off conquer yeah that you may conquer Satan so you know

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I seen doctor in covenant section 10 Scott I think verses 4 through 6 that says pray always

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that you may come off conquer yeah that you may conquer Satan you know I love that's one

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of my favorite scriptures in doctrine comes really and and then in other places is pray

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always that you may overcome temptations pray always that you may overcome Satan pray always

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yeah you know if we would just experiment with that and I think that's not possible how

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can I do that if we if we would stop discounting commandments like that including the commandment

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to look under me in every thought why just discount that say well that's ridiculous

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again do that why not just why not just experiment with it and we won't be perfect at it but

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what if we if what if we could strive to do that I'm telling you Scott it would make such

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a difference in our relationship in our connection and feeling bound to have it yeah yeah I love

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that and I mean I'm gonna kind of wrap that up with just one sentence again this is I've

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already quoted this and I've done it many times over the last several podcasts but this

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is a step 11 in alcohol the program of alcoholics anonymous sought through prayer and meditation

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to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood him our conscious contact

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so you know there's contact but to be aware of that contact right sought through prayer

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and meditation and that's what you're talking about prayer and meditation is that conscious

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contact with God and again this is a praying only a knowledge for knowledge of his will

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for us in the power to carry that out I think that that's how I plan to demonstrate and

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to show my deep devotion and my my love to heavenly Father over the next several days

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is I'll accept this invitation to is to maintain and try and maintain a posture of prayer and

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meditation so that my conscious contact with him can be improved so that I can feel it so

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that I can feel him receiving the love that I'm trying to demonstrate straight to him

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by putting on the atonement of Jesus Christ by enduring to the end by by demonstrating

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charitable acts and having a by by by strengthening my brother and after I've been converted and

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all of those other things that are so important that are not possible to do without that conscious

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contact all of that would be all of that is true worship yes and I love it I'm sorry to

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our listeners if I've said this too much but I love President McKay's statement I'm quoting

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quoting him President David O. McKay spirituality our true aim I think about that for a minute

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that's our aim that's our aim that's it that's our purpose if we could increase our spirituality

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Scott spirituality our true aim is the consciousness of victory over self and of communion with

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the infinite man if we could have constant communion and what was the first part control

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consciousness of victory over self consciousness of victory over self so and communion so that's

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saying that we have victory over self we now become aware of that the way that we have

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that victory over self is we become aware of that through the communion through Christ

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exactly you know through through him yeah and administered through the Holy Ghost but

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anyway I I have loved that for 50 years I've loved that quote and and then he I you don't

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hear this the rest of this very often spirituality our true aim impels one to conquer difficulties

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and acquire more strength and to feel one's faculties unfolding and truth expanding in

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the soul is one of life's sublimest experiences anyway I let's just try to increase our spirituality

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and our communion with the infinite and through Christ victory over self anyway I I think that

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would be something all of our listeners could benefit from if we if we could make an effort

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to focus on it this week that gift is waiting for each of us to receive it there's no question

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you know I I think that if we make an effort in that direction that we will receive line

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up online at least line up online and precept upon precept the blessings that come from

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that exercise for sure repenting continually thanks for being with us Dave today it's been

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a great day do you have any final thoughts no good good to be with you yeah it's good

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to be with you too so so gang we we have a couple of takeaways today let's try to implement

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those into our lives this week we look forward to being with you again next week and until

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then be well