1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:20,300 Hey there everybody welcome out to another episode of Redeemed Through His Blood. 2 00:00:20,300 --> 00:00:22,780 Scott and DavidDurfey here as always. 3 00:00:22,780 --> 00:00:23,780 How's it going Dave? 4 00:00:23,780 --> 00:00:24,780 Great Scott. 5 00:00:24,780 --> 00:00:26,780 Great time of the year huh? 6 00:00:26,780 --> 00:00:27,780 Yeah, good time of the year. 7 00:00:27,780 --> 00:00:29,980 We're getting towards the end of summer. 8 00:00:29,980 --> 00:00:31,760 Fall's rolling in. 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,560 Football's in the air. 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,560 Beautiful. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:40,720 You know, I don't know exactly when we'll publish this, but it's September when we're 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,240 doing it and probably September when you publish it. 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,000 Yeah, it'll come out actually next week. 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:55,400 And this is such a sacred month for me because it's the month that Joseph Smith sees Moroni. 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,400 Joseph Smith gets the plates. 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,640 I don't know where people are going to be when they're, wherever they are on the 21st 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:08,240 and 22nd, the Fall Equinox, which by the way is really significant. 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:15,000 A lot of prophecies connected with Joseph Smith receiving the visit of an angel and receiving 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,080 the gold plates and the new and everlasting covenant being restored through the Book of 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Mormon. 21 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,760 Anyway, Scott I love this time of the year. 22 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,760 Yeah. 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:32,440 I think we'll, we'll maybe think about those events and, and ponder them the night of September 24 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,600 21st, early in the morning of September 22nd. 25 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:44,200 It was probably just around midnight or thereafter that Joe that I think Moroni appeared to Joseph 26 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:50,560 Smith and I think when he took him to get the plates and the Hill, Kamora, he never 27 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:51,560 went. 28 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:57,640 He came shortly after midnight that they, they took the plates out of the Hill, Kamora. 29 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:03,760 So I'm, I love this time of year for that reason, but also for lots of other reasons, 30 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,360 yeah, let alone it being football season. 31 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,360 Exactly. 32 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:09,360 Yeah. 33 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:10,360 Yeah. 34 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,520 That's always a great time of year for our family. 35 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,520 I know that. 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,480 So it's true for us too. 37 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,760 We were, I was just with some family members down Lake Powell this past week and that was 38 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,720 beautiful down there this time of year. 39 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,560 The water's warm and it's, it's just a beautiful time of year to be there. 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:36,160 Yesterday I drove down to Richfield, which is in center center, central Utah to pick 41 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,960 up a half a cow, half a beef. 42 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:39,960 Cool. 43 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:40,960 Yeah. 44 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,640 And I could, I had my windows down. 45 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:43,960 It was a little crisp. 46 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,160 The air coming back. 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,440 There was fresh cut hay, probably fourth cut, fourth crop hay laying in the field. 48 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:50,440 Yeah. 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,920 Man, that took, took me back to some, just some wonderful memories of my childhood. 50 00:02:54,920 --> 00:02:57,920 You did this through Diane, Karen, Karen. 51 00:02:57,920 --> 00:02:58,920 Yeah. 52 00:02:58,920 --> 00:02:59,920 Yeah. 53 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:00,920 Yeah. 54 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:01,920 That's awesome. 55 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:02,920 Yeah. 56 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:03,920 Well, yeah, it was amazing. 57 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:09,440 So, well listen, Dave, a couple of past weeks, I think the last two, maybe three, we've talked 58 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:15,960 about keys to receiving personal revelation and today we'll continue in that vein. 59 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Last week we had some great conversations, some opportunity to fill the spirit, to invite 60 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:29,520 the spirit into our lives, to put on the atonement of Jesus Christ through certain instruments 61 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,520 of grace. 62 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,160 And you know, today we're going to continue in that vein, but you know, I just, I've been 63 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:42,840 acutely aware of the effects of the fall of Adam and Eve in my life this past week. 64 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,320 We're just sinners helping sinners. 65 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,320 Yeah. 66 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,920 That's something, you know, and I, and I haven't let it bug me too much. 67 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,680 We all feel that every day. 68 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:51,680 I know. 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,680 Yeah. 70 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,320 You know, and some of it has to do with physical, you know, I've got this little, sure, thing, 71 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,480 this little arthritis thing going on. 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:05,120 I got our, have RA and sometimes I have flares that really trip me up and, and it's been 73 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,120 that way this week. 74 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:12,120 And then, you know, just, just, just the effects of the fall of Adam and Eve, you know, family 75 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,680 stuff, friends stuff, just all kinds of stuff. 76 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,320 But what that does, Dave, is I've been preparing and, and, and, you know, I'll be teaching Institute 77 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,240 tonight and doing a thing for our ward. 78 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,840 That's kind of a big deal. 79 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:29,600 A series where we're focusing on very much the same things that we're focusing on here. 80 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,600 And maybe, you know, what are your thoughts on this, Dave? 81 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:39,600 I feel like sometimes the closer I get to do, to do what I need to do, it's, I feel like 82 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,360 that there are, there's enemy who knows me. 83 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,360 For sure. 84 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,360 Who knows my weaknesses. 85 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,480 Who knows my vulnerabilities. 86 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,720 Who knows my areas of chink in the armor. 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:53,720 Absolutely. 88 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,520 That go full on attack. 89 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,240 And I have felt like I've been on full on attack for the last week. 90 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:07,640 Well, it's true and there's another reason for it, not just because the enemy, the accuser, 91 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:13,120 you know, who knows what you're, you know, he doesn't know what you're thinking, by the 92 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,120 way. 93 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Right. 94 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,960 That's, that power is sovereign to God. 95 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,160 God knows all our thoughts. 96 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,760 Satan does not. 97 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,800 But he does read our body language. 98 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:23,800 Yeah. 99 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:24,800 And he's become pretty good. 100 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:36,840 He, he, he knows where we're at and, and I, it's true Scott that because of that, he knows 101 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:45,360 our vulnerabilities and he will attack us and especially every chink he knows in our armor. 102 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,440 That's where he'll attack. 103 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,560 You just have to have on the full armor. 104 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:59,400 And I think sometimes Scott, we don't use enough the one offensive weapon that's given 105 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,040 to us in the armor of God. 106 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:07,720 I mean, you can talk about the armor of salvation, the helmet of salvation, the armor of faith, 107 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,040 all of the other sort of face. 108 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:16,720 Anyway, it's not the sort of faith, but this is the, this is the key using the sword of 109 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,220 the spirit. 110 00:06:18,220 --> 00:06:21,000 It's the sword of the spirit and the sword. 111 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:28,880 I think it's also kind of the word that we have to use in order to fight back. 112 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,080 And I think sometimes we don't do that enough. 113 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:36,560 And it kind of leads into our, our whole discussion on the keys to receiving revelation 114 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:42,200 is that we have to be more in tune with the Holy Ghost and, and focus on that and to use 115 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:49,720 that to be able to do the things that we need to do to get more of the Holy Ghost, personal 116 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:56,280 revelation and the spirit into our lives, which will help offset the attacks that we 117 00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:57,840 receive. 118 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:05,000 But it's also true, Scott, and I'm sure the brethren feel this acutely is that the closer 119 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:16,400 you get to Jesus Christ, the larger your sins and your flaws and your weakness appear. 120 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,880 That's a fact. 121 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:23,600 The closer you get, which, which you should take some comfort in, right? 122 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:29,720 When you should think, okay, all right, so I am making some progress here when you're 123 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,720 under attack. 124 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,120 That way that's what you should say. 125 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:38,360 I am making some progress here or number one, he wouldn't be attacking me in number two. 126 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,600 These things in the past may not have bothered me so much. 127 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,000 Maybe I wouldn't have even wanted to fight against them. 128 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:54,840 Maybe I wouldn't have even noticed the, the wrongs and the weakness of the flesh here. 129 00:07:54,840 --> 00:08:04,240 So I, you know, I think there's, there's some, some comfort, strength, understanding in 130 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:10,640 when, when we're getting close, things can get really, really tough. 131 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,520 It's part of, I think, just, just part of being human and being mortal. 132 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,680 But I think it can also be a, be a test. 133 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:25,720 I mean, Abrahamic tests come to us sometimes when we're, when we're doing the best in our 134 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:34,120 lives to, to, to be able to offer up some of those things that have been so dear to 135 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:40,400 us in our lives and to sacrifice them, to be asked to sacrifice them can be really a 136 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:47,880 test and really expose us, our weaknesses and our vulnerabilities. 137 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,520 So but let me ask you a question back. 138 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:59,280 So what are you doing to overcome the sins of omission, which would help you to get more 139 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,560 of the sword of the spirit and revelation in your life, which is what our last podcast, 140 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:04,560 that's where we ended. 141 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:11,160 And, and where we're going today is going to be part of my answer. 142 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,440 So I, I've been thinking about this and I've been thinking about in preparation for what 143 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,040 we're going to be talking about today. 144 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,480 You know, we've known that we were going to talk about this today since last week when 145 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,920 we ended our podcast and said, Hey, this is what we're talking about next week. 146 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,280 And so that's been on my mind for a whole week. 147 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,560 And first off, this is not unusual. 148 00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:31,640 I go through this from time to time. 149 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,800 And I find that, you know, the more that I'm involved in helping others, especially those 150 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,440 that are marginalized in alcoholics anonymous or just don't feel like they fit in other 151 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,560 areas, it feels like that those are the times when the enemy fights the hardest against 152 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:51,440 me to have me fail so that I'm not effective in helping and in helping myself, you know, 153 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,040 helping them, sure, but in helping myself too, right? 154 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:02,800 And so, you know, what I've done to overcome the sensible mission that have been obviously 155 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:08,280 in my life or in all of our lives when we have these kinds of things that enter in. 156 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,880 So I'm coming home from Richfield the other night and I'm listening to a talk show on 157 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,400 the radio podcast and it was fine. 158 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,480 You know, there was nothing demoralizing. 159 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,960 There was nothing negative or anti-spirit about it. 160 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:32,960 But I got to, I don't know, about to where I 70 and then you go through Cipio about 161 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,880 when I got on to I 15, still about 90 miles from home. 162 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:44,040 I pulled over, I got a drink, I filled up with gas, did what I needed to do. 163 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,360 And when I got back in my truck, I thought, I need to change my environment. 164 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:49,360 I was sad. 165 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,360 I mean, I was sad. 166 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,840 I was feeling heavy. 167 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,320 I was, you know, I'm a sensitive kind of guy. 168 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,120 I even had tears from time. 169 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:06,080 And so I turned, I have a playlist on my Spotify and it's LDS hymns of instrumental hymns, 170 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,240 LDS hymns, and we play it every Sunday morning here in the home. 171 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,480 So I listened to that on the way home. 172 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,000 And as I did, I had a prayer in my heart, you know, there's something about music. 173 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,160 I had an experience on my mission with music. 174 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,680 It was my second, my second transfer. 175 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:25,840 I was in the same place, but I had my second companionship. 176 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,680 And I was just really struggling with this particular companionship. 177 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:30,320 I was struggling to feel the spirit. 178 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,040 He was struggling to even be on a mission. 179 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,320 And it was just difficult, very difficult. 180 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,920 And one night I prayed, I just cried out to the side of my bed. 181 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,720 I just cried out, please, Heavenly Father, bless me that I can feel your spirit so that 182 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,800 I can even want to just stay here, honestly, you know. 183 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:53,520 And I put on some church approved music, mission approved music as I was going to bed. 184 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,320 And as I did, Dave, I felt this light come into my soul, you know, it wasn't necessarily 185 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:59,680 a physical light. 186 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:05,000 Maybe it was, but I didn't, that's not my, I'm not claiming that, but I felt this light 187 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,760 come into my soul that just lifted me. 188 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:13,080 And that was one of the defining moments of my life was that night in that music, in prayer, 189 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,120 I could, it was a Mormon Tabernacle Choir, maybe something like that. 190 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,520 I don't even remember, but I felt the presence of the spirit. 191 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,920 Well, driving home the other day from Richfield, I had a similar experience, maybe not to the 192 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:30,880 degree of intensity that I had in Seattle, Washington, or Renton, Washington in 1982. 193 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,440 But it was of that same, and I was just so grateful. 194 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:39,560 And I remembered, and I had, it came to me cognitively, I bowed my head and said, thank 195 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:40,560 you. 196 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:41,560 That's awesome. 197 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:42,560 Yeah. 198 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:46,600 And since that time, you know, and moving into it, you know, I wasn't totally oblivious. 199 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,240 I was aware of where I was. 200 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,400 I was aware of what was happening. 201 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,880 It wasn't consuming me. 202 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,320 Well, listen, you know, number one, for our listeners' sake. 203 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,320 Yeah. 204 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,000 I just got to point this out. 205 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,720 Number one, how awesome was it that you were even aware of it? 206 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,720 Yeah. 207 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:05,720 That's my point. 208 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:11,360 Because so many, so many of us are not even aware of it. 209 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:19,600 We just are going with the flow and we'll get on a downer and Satan will be on the attack. 210 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,800 And we won't even recognize it. 211 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:32,600 I mean, we know we're down, but we don't even seem to be mindful enough to think about why 212 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:38,120 or what can I do or how can I get out of this or how can I change this. 213 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,440 We just go with it. 214 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:47,240 And that's that's the key to I think step number five in receiving revelation is to be 215 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:56,880 intentional in how we live, to be more intentional and mindful and diligent in in in creating 216 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,640 an environment by overcoming the sins of omission, where we're doing the things that we should 217 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:07,280 be doing, which will keep us from giving into the enemy and doing things that we shouldn't 218 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,280 be doing. 219 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,960 That's the key to step to. 220 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:11,960 Yeah. 221 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,800 Well, and it's not just the things that we should be doing, but having our heart and 222 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,800 our mind follow. 223 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:17,800 Yeah. 224 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Right. 225 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:19,800 I mean, doing them for the right reason. 226 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:20,800 Yeah. 227 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,480 Have doing them for the right, which goes back to the earlier keys that we've talked about 228 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:25,480 right. 229 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:26,480 Our motives. 230 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,680 That's how we access those. 231 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,680 They're all connected. 232 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:29,680 These are all connected. 233 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:30,680 Sure. 234 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:31,680 Yeah. 235 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,680 Yeah. 236 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:37,520 I had an experience years ago, Scott, where, you know, I learned the power of inspired 237 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:47,160 art, and I know inspired music goes along with this as part of it, but inspired art and 238 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:54,840 inspired music are really important components in what we have chosen to call instruments 239 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,320 of grace. 240 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:03,440 You know, if, if we would be more intentional about what we listen to, about what we take 241 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:09,440 into our ears, what we take into our eyes, what we choose to look at, what we choose 242 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:16,120 to listen to, man, it really makes a difference in what's in our minds and what's in our 243 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,120 hearts. 244 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:26,120 And years ago, I was in a, I was under attack and I was going through a real trial in my 245 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,320 life. 246 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,840 I think probably the worst time in my life. 247 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:41,000 And I was living in Minnesota at the time and it was, it was just really a sad, difficult, 248 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,040 depressing time. 249 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:50,760 And I had a dream one night, one of the three dreams given to me in my lifetime that I know 250 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:56,920 were from the Lord and I consider them to be gifts from the Holy Ghost. 251 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:04,400 And in this dream, President Hinckley showed up at my house and his security guard was 252 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:05,600 with him. 253 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,120 He wanted to see, he knocked on the door and he said, I, I just want to come in if I can 254 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,280 and I just want to have you give me a tour of your house. 255 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,320 And he wanted to see every room. 256 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:23,600 We went into every room, the living room, the kitchen, the family room, every bedroom. 257 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:28,720 We went downstairs, we even, we even looked in the storage room. 258 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:35,600 He went through every room of my house and he didn't say a word. 259 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:43,600 And we walked up stairs to go till he walked upstairs to leave and I'm, I'm following him 260 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:52,360 out the door and we get on the porch and he turns around at me, looks at me and he wags 261 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,360 that finger. 262 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,680 I don't know if you remember General Conference sometimes when he'd really get going, he'd 263 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,600 start wagging his index finger. 264 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,600 Remember? 265 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:00,600 Oh yeah. 266 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,560 I don't, I don't want to derail you. 267 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:03,560 Don't forget where you're at. 268 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,000 But when he did that, it reminded me of grandpa. 269 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Yeah. 270 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Yeah, it did me too. 271 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,000 Yeah. 272 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Yeah. 273 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,000 My dad would do that. 274 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Yeah. 275 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,000 And even had a similar look. 276 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,000 So anyway, continue. 277 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Yeah. 278 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,000 And voice. 279 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:22,200 Anyway, he, he started pointing his finger or wagging his finger at me and he said, David, 280 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,200 David, change the pictures. 281 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Well, I was devastated. 282 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,200 Change the pictures. 283 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:37,280 I, I, anyway, then the dream, there was another part to this dream, which I won't, I don't 284 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:43,120 need to share with everybody, which was really significant and really special to me. 285 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:50,000 But when I woke up, when I woke up that next morning, I turned to Chris and I said, Chris, 286 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,560 do we have any bad pictures in our house? 287 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Bad pictures. 288 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,560 Do we have one? 289 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:57,560 What? 290 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,440 Chris, I, I, I had a dream and I told her about this dream. 291 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:08,160 I said, I had a dream and I told her about the dream and I said, he said to change the 292 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:15,800 pictures and she said, well, you know, there may be a few pictures that we need to change. 293 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:16,800 That's, that's true. 294 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:23,160 We need to get the savior in the temple, more in the, in our children's rooms and on 295 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,040 our walls. 296 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,040 That's true. 297 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:32,840 But she said, I, David, and she was going through the trial with me. 298 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,460 She said, we just have to change how we see it. 299 00:18:36,460 --> 00:18:39,720 We have to change our perspective. 300 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:45,440 But one of the lessons I've taken from that, Scott, is that pictures help us to change 301 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,440 our perspective. 302 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,440 Yeah. 303 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:54,320 What we listen to, what we choose to see can change our perspective and inspired art can 304 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,480 really do that for us. 305 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:02,400 I don't know what some of your favorite pictures are of the savior, but I have several of them 306 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:08,480 in my office, in fact, in my office, I think every picture I have on the wall, I mean, 307 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:16,160 this dream affected me deeply and every picture I have on the wall of my office, which is 308 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:25,720 one, two, three, four, and one on my, on my bookcase, a big picture is of the savior 309 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,280 in different parts of his mission. 310 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:35,040 I guess the one that gets me the most is, is the one where the stone is that was rolled 311 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:40,800 away from his, his sepulcher and grave and him standing in front of it is the one that 312 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,800 inspires me always the most. 313 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,520 And sometimes I'll just put my feet up on the desk and stare at that picture. 314 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,520 That's what it's all about, Scott. 315 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,840 And my mind is right again. 316 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,880 The world is right again. 317 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,120 Jesus Christ arose from the grave. 318 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:58,200 Jesus Christ is alive. 319 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:03,640 Jesus Christ is in control and I'll be resurrected and my family will be resurrected. 320 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:10,160 And I mean, really, if you just focus on a picture like that for a while, it can, it 321 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:17,480 can completely change your perspective and perspective can sometimes be everything. 322 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:27,680 So I, I hope our listeners will be intentional about if they need to change the pictures 323 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,600 for sure change what you choose to focus on. 324 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:39,640 If we would do that, even when we're at under attack, the attack would not maybe be so heavy. 325 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,920 Yeah. 326 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,200 This is what creates the environment that we're living in. 327 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,200 Yeah. 328 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,200 The environment is really critical. 329 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,200 Yeah. 330 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:52,640 And so we think about art in all of its forms, including music. 331 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,920 And how can that really affect our relationship with the spirit? 332 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:05,000 You know, I, I know that I have memories, Dave, when I was a little boy going to church 333 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,920 and this is in your church, the old seventh ward building, you know, there was a mural 334 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,200 painted up on a high to maybe a five or six year old kid. 335 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,360 It seemed like it was in the sky, but it was towards the top of the chapel of Jesus and 336 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:18,520 the sheep. 337 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:24,360 I remember that and it seemed inevitably and it probably happened three times and it was 338 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:27,320 indelibly etched upon my heart and my mind. 339 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,520 It probably didn't happen every time I came there, which was semi frequently. 340 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:37,960 But when I did, it seemed like inevitably during the prelude or at some point I would 341 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,400 be the, the, the hymn would come on. 342 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,800 The Lord is my shepherd. 343 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:42,800 Yeah. 344 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:49,240 And, and I had that mural, you know, the art and the music and Dave, I don't remember 345 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:56,640 anything potentially that was said at your missionary farewell or when Uncle Dennis was 346 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:02,040 made to Bishop or when Grandpa this or, or, you know, and we attended quite frequently. 347 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,680 I don't really, I don't remember any literally anything that was ever said, but I will never 348 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:14,960 forget the way I felt even as a little boy sitting in those pews and hearing the Lord 349 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,600 is my shepherd, the beautiful prelude music and then seeing the art of the mural painted. 350 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,920 We don't do that anymore in chapels, but that was beautiful for me. 351 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:29,480 And that was one of the beginning earliest memories of spiritual experiences in my life. 352 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:35,120 Well, that's, that's what it provides is a spiritual experience, a strengthening experience. 353 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,120 Yeah. 354 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:43,640 And you bring up my brother Dennis, you know, he shared with me a really sacred experience, 355 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,320 which he had years ago and, and he's been gone now for a number of years and we miss 356 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,320 him terribly. 357 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,320 Yeah. 358 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:57,320 But when he was struggling the last few years of his life, I'd go over and spend Monday 359 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:05,280 afternoons with him because I just felt he was lonely and we would talk gospel and, and 360 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:11,560 one day he, he took me in his living room and he showed me the picture above his fireplace 361 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:18,400 and he told me the story that he, there was one point in time in his life when he was 362 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:28,000 trying to survive in his business and he was really struggling to be able to pay his bills 363 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:36,960 to meet all of the demands he was working from 4am till 6pm and, and he still felt like 364 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:45,400 he was sinking that he was losing ground and he was even considering bankruptcy and what 365 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:51,000 that would mean to not just him and his family, but to my dad. 366 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:59,000 My dad had invested so much into this business and the name of Durfee Tri Cleaners and oh 367 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:05,640 man, all, all of this name was on the business, you know, and Dennis was really just, he was 368 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:11,240 going under, he was really struggling and he one night couldn't sleep. 369 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,840 There had been lots of sleepless nights. 370 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:19,240 He told me and he one night went into his living room and he felt that fell down on 371 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:26,520 the floor and prayed and he looked up, felt impressed to look up at, at this picture hanging 372 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:34,240 above the, his fireplace and the mantle and there's this picture of the savior reaching 373 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,400 down to Peter sinking in the water. 374 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,400 Remember that. 375 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,160 Can you visualize that picture? 376 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,680 Yeah, I have a rendition of that in Deb's office upstairs. 377 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:54,240 And Peter is starting to sink in the saviors reaching down to him and oh man for Dennis 378 00:24:54,240 --> 00:25:04,320 now that had a profound spiritual strengthening and life changing really experience for him 379 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:11,720 and he knew he knew that that there was the answer to his prayer and that the savior was 380 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:20,360 going to pull him out and the savior was going to help him to, to make it into the boat and 381 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:29,720 to walk and to, to be able to rise above it and he did, he did it. 382 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:39,520 So I, I hope our listeners will take time to look at inspired art and that they will 383 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,400 take time, be intentional in listening to inspired music. 384 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:51,360 It's so amazing what we can do with inspired music now because you can choose, there's 385 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:56,760 no excuse not to have a sacred music list, right? 386 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,360 A Sunday music list, whatever you want to call it. 387 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:06,400 I just call it sacred music on my phone and I, I do Apple music and I, I have a, I just 388 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,160 put that on on Sunday. 389 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:17,240 In fact, Scott, there's a certain music that I would listen to every Sunday morning when 390 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:23,800 I was giving patriarchal blessings and I, every time I walked in my office early Sunday morning, 391 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:30,800 I would start by starting that the music, I would follow my knees and pray while the 392 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,360 music was going. 393 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:39,600 Because the music actually lifted my spirit and I actually felt like my prayers to some 394 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:48,720 extent were being carried to God on the sounds and tones of this music. 395 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:55,400 I mean, I know that sounds crazy, but, but I, it was really sacred for me and it would 396 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:01,120 bring the spirit immediately into my life and it would help me to even make my prayers 397 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:02,360 more meaningful. 398 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:09,600 I know that the inspired music and inspired art can be one of those things that can help 399 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:17,760 us to receive the Holy Ghost in our life and to bring revelation into our lives. 400 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:27,120 We were a couple of years ago in Jerusalem with family and others and at one point, Dave, 401 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:31,760 we near Capernaum is Magdala, right? 402 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,800 From Mary of Magdala. 403 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,320 Yeah, they're just, they're both on the sea of Galilee and around the corner from each 404 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,320 other. 405 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,320 Exactly. 406 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:46,720 Magdala being a fishing port, you know, more, more inclined to that at least in those days, 407 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,720 both Capernaum. 408 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,920 They, there was a ruins of an ancient church there. 409 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,920 Have they rebuilt that? 410 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,480 No, it hasn't been rebuilt, but it's where he gave the sermon of the bread of life. 411 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,000 Yeah, actually that has been rebuilt and I did go into that. 412 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Yeah. 413 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,000 Yeah. 414 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:10,960 But he, when we went to Magdala, we go into this church and we go to the, it's a beautiful 415 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:16,640 church, you know, it has where the preacher would stand, it depicts a boat, you know, 416 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,400 much like the one that Peter would have descended from, you know, in the, in the painting. 417 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,400 I saw this. 418 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,560 You're just talking about, well, if you go down in the middle of it, there's kind of 419 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:31,880 a fountain of water and we sang a hymn there that was a really moving experience, you know, 420 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,440 the music and we could feel and I don't remember the hymn. 421 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,840 I wish I could because it was that moving. 422 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:44,440 But as we descended down the stairs into another lower level, there's this mural and 423 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,720 it's pretty big. 424 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:53,200 My estimation and I could be way off as it's 10 to 8 to 10 feet high and it's kind of on 425 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:59,000 a curve, you know, I can't describe it exactly, but then 8 to 10 feet high and then maybe 426 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,360 from end to end 15 feet, 20 feet, something like that. 427 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,440 And I'm going to try to describe it. 428 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,440 I'll put a link to the website here. 429 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,720 I don't, I don't feel comfortable in posting the painting here because I don't have permission 430 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:18,800 to do it, but I'll post a link where those who are interested to see it can go see it. 431 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:24,400 But what I'm seeing here is I'm looking at this, in fact, Deb and I loved it so much, 432 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:31,040 we purchased a copy of this to hang in our front, our family room upstairs, our main 433 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,040 room. 434 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,760 But what it shows is just feet, feet and one hand. 435 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:42,280 It's all feet and it's, it's, it doesn't take long for the viewer to determine or to 436 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:47,880 decipher that the feet that are pointed directly at you are the feet of the Savior. 437 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,160 And those around the feet that are depicted around those feet, and you know, you see the 438 00:29:52,160 --> 00:30:00,080 robes and a staff and the, the Levite or the Jewish tassels and all those things and, and 439 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,360 a staff. 440 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,600 And then through it, you see a, and they appear to be all men's feet. 441 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,880 I mean, that's the way that it's, I think, depicted intentionally. 442 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,720 And then through the press or through this crowd, you see a little withered hand reaching 443 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,720 through. 444 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:22,880 And with this hand, you can just buried lightly see a virtue or what one would consider to 445 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,880 paint. 446 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,880 How would you paint a virtue? 447 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,360 Because this is the story when Jesus is in the press and he stops and he says, who touched 448 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,360 me? 449 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,480 And they say, what do you mean who touched you? 450 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,000 You're around a thousand, hundreds of people here. 451 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Everybody's touching you. 452 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,080 And he says, no, I felt a virtue leave me. 453 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:45,080 And this is the picture of the woman with the issue of blood through her faith being 454 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,080 healed. 455 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:52,040 And Dave, when I, when I come home from a long week at work or, you know, from the stresses 456 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,320 or I enter, Deb enters through the garage because she parks in the garage. 457 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Our garage isn't big enough for my car to fit too. 458 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,680 So I park in the driveway and come through the front door. 459 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,960 When I come through the front door, this is what I see every time before I come into the 460 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,000 house, I see this picture, this painting. 461 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:14,840 And if I'm intentional about it, I can let that affect my entering into my home. 462 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:24,000 And, and I have to tell you that this painting has changed for me the feeling of our home. 463 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,000 That's awesome. 464 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Yeah. 465 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,440 Well, you have to be intentional and we have to be mindful. 466 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,480 You got to be really mindful and you have to, you have to take a minute and you have 467 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,840 to pause and be still. 468 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,760 And I promise that if people will use inspired art that they can feel the spirit of the Lord 469 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:45,120 by doing those things and the same with inspired music. 470 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,120 Wow. 471 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,200 We should, I used to do this with my students at Institute. 472 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,720 I used to say, I'm going to send around a paper. 473 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,840 I want you to put down your favorite sacred song that you have on your playlist. 474 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:02,880 And if you don't have a sacred playlist, I want you to create one using these songs. 475 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,400 And are my students love doing that? 476 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:11,400 They love to get new inspired music by sharing it with one another. 477 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,520 So that's, that's an important invitation. 478 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:19,720 I hope our listeners will examine, take some sort of an assessment of pitchers in their, 479 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:27,240 in their room to make this, the pitchers of their home more sacred and to make the music 480 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:33,120 that they listen to and other things they listen to or watch more sacred in their home. 481 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:39,120 It will increase the spirit of their home and increase the level of their revelation. 482 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,120 Environments importance. 483 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:48,720 Let's talk about, this is still a key number five, but one of the instruments of grace, 484 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:54,840 instruments of the spirit, instruments of revelation is the, what, what we do all the 485 00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:00,680 time in church, which is participate in ordinances and covenants. 486 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:06,800 Covenants are definitely one of the instruments of grace and revelation that the Lord has 487 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,560 given us. 488 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:15,320 And we've talked about that before I know, but my experience with Brother Matthew's 489 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,760 in Minnesota when he was staying in our home, Brother Matthew's who wrote the Bible dictionary, 490 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:26,960 who stated, or who I actually said, Brother Matthew's, can I share this with you? 491 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:33,160 I have come to the conclusion that whenever we participate in any ordinance of the gospel, 492 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:40,000 either as a giver or a receiver, the Atonement of Jesus Christ is applied in our life. 493 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:46,240 Well, he loved that except he said, I think you should add the word faithfully or worthily 494 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,840 whenever you faithfully participate in any ordinance of the gospel. 495 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,320 The Atonement of Jesus Christ is applied in your life, which I loved. 496 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,080 I know that's true Scott and when the Atonement of Jesus Christ is applied in our life, it's 497 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:08,760 administered into our lives through the gift of the Holy Ghost and we receive revelation 498 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:14,640 and that revelation can be really personal in regards to the most important revelation 499 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,800 we can receive, I believe is that our sins have been forgiven where we stand with the 500 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,360 Lord are standing. 501 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:30,000 All of that can be enhanced as we participate in the ordinances and covenants of the gospel. 502 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:38,000 So I know that the Lord has said that in the ordinances thereof, speaking of the temple, 503 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,520 in the ordinances thereof, the power of godliness is manifest and the power of godliness among 504 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:49,000 other things is the Atonement of Jesus Christ and personal revelation. 505 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,520 So of all the things and I know President Nelson has made that promise to us over and 506 00:34:54,520 --> 00:35:02,800 over again that revelation will increase and the power to access the Atonement of Jesus 507 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:09,880 Christ will increase in our lives as we participate in the ordinances of the restored gospel of 508 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,720 Jesus Christ. 509 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:19,200 So we can't overstate how important ordinances and covenants are as an instrument of grace 510 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,160 and receiving revelation in the spirit in our life. 511 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,840 I just want to read from the doctrine and covenants. 512 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:33,040 So this is doctrine and covenants 84-20, therefore in the ordinances thereof, the power of godliness 513 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,840 is manifest. 514 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,680 And so Dave, when you talk about the power of godliness, this is the power to solve all 515 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,680 of our problems. 516 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,400 I believe that. 517 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:49,960 This is the power to assist us in our spiritual struggles, our physical struggles, our mental 518 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,240 and emotional struggles. 519 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:55,440 This is the power that makes all of that available to us. 520 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,920 Personal revelation, atonement of Jesus Christ, power of the priesthood. 521 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,920 There's just so many gifts and powers that are included in that. 522 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,680 And without the ordinances, 21, and without the ordinances thereof and the authority of 523 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:15,320 the priesthood, the power of godliness is not manifest unto men in the flesh, for without 524 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:21,120 this no man can see the face of God, even the Father, and live. 525 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:31,120 Well, so we need to be using the ordinances thereof, speaking of the temple, to be able 526 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,960 to seek and receive more personal revelation. 527 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:41,600 Let's unpack that for just a second, because in the beginning of this podcast a few years 528 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:47,520 ago when you and I decided that we had a message that we felt was important and we felt Heavenly 529 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:54,560 Father inspired us and pushing us to deliver this, well, all of this is to help us to gain 530 00:36:54,560 --> 00:37:01,640 a relationship with Him and all of deity so that we can have what He wants us to have, 531 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,120 which is everything that He has. 532 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:10,840 And specifically for me today is His peace, right, and His joy and His comfort. 533 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,120 All fruits of the Spirit. 534 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,960 All fruits of the Spirit, all spiritual gifts. 535 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:23,120 And so for me, as I want to have those in my life, He's given those to me to offset 536 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,120 the effects of the fall, right? 537 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,360 And the effects of the fall, I started the podcast today stating, hey, I felt the effects 538 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,600 of the fall. 539 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,200 And so if I'm feeling the, and we all do, we all feel the effects of the fall on a daily 540 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,200 basis. 541 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,440 That's just part also of the plan. 542 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,800 That's nothing for us to be ashamed of. 543 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,040 It's nothing for us to beat ourselves up over. 544 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,940 We shouldn't use that as an indictment against ourselves, but we all will feel the effects 545 00:37:48,940 --> 00:37:50,640 of the fall on a pretty regular basis. 546 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,320 So to offset the effects of the fall, I want the Spirit in my life. 547 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,040 And in order to have that Spirit in my life, I just mentioned an experience that I had 548 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,240 coming home from Richfield. 549 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:02,520 I turn on some music, I invite the Spirit into my life. 550 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:09,560 Nothing David, nothing in this mortal realm invites the Spirit into our lives quite like 551 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,760 participating in ordinances. 552 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,760 Amen. 553 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:21,000 I mean, I, I don't know how I can add anything to that Scott, because I believe that's true. 554 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:27,080 And if people would just whatever you're going through, sometimes they feel like they, they 555 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:34,440 don't feel quote, they don't feel like going to church. 556 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,800 They don't feel worthy. 557 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,440 They don't feel anyway. 558 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:47,440 That's just really sad to me because man, going and participating in the ordinances of the 559 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:54,120 sacrament to take in that little piece of bread and to drink the water representing the 560 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,000 blood of Jesus Christ. 561 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,080 I mean, he took Jesus Christ. 562 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:05,600 How many times Scott did he do that with his disciples on both continents and Institute 563 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,800 the sacred emblems of the sacrament? 564 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:15,760 I recently last week married a couple and performed officiated officiated the ordinance 565 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,800 of ceiling. 566 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,200 And wow, I felt really impressed. 567 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,640 And this is a really special couple. 568 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,800 High school, sweethearts, both return missionaries. 569 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:32,800 And I really felt impressed to tell them that the sacrament participating in the ordinance 570 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:39,880 of the sacrament would be the key to their successful marriage because every time they 571 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:47,360 particular sacrament, they were renewing the ordinance and covenant of ceiling that they 572 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,160 were entering into that day. 573 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:57,320 And it every time we particular sacrament, we are not just renewing our baptismal covenants, 574 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:06,080 but all covenants that we have made with God and that renewing those covenants, the focus, 575 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:13,200 the center, the power is the atonement of Jesus Christ that it is through his flesh 576 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:22,760 and his blood, his atoning infinite sacrifice that we can be able to receive all of the 577 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:28,200 promises of the covenant in our life. 578 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,200 I know that's true. 579 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:36,080 I encourage them that from now on that when you I told them that when you particular sacrament, 580 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,760 you should think about this ceiling room. 581 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,840 You should think about this day. 582 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,960 You should think about what you promised to each other in the ordinance and what you 583 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,520 promised to God. 584 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:55,000 And that won't take much time to do that every Sunday when you particular sacrament. 585 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,200 But that's part of what you're doing when you for take the sacrament. 586 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:05,000 I think it would be really powerful for all of us to do that that we that we reflect upon 587 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,720 our baptismal covenants and all the ordinances and covenants of salvation that we've 588 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:17,480 entered into when we partake of the little piece of bread and little piece of water weekly. 589 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:24,320 And that's that's why that's why I just don't want to ever miss a week of partaking of the 590 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,640 sacrament and hope our listeners feel the same way. 591 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:34,920 And I know that it will increase their ability to receive power of God, strengthen their personal 592 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:40,920 relationship with Him and receive revelation and spirit in their life. 593 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:49,040 This past Sunday, I had a very personal experience during the sacrament and it was life changing. 594 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:54,280 You know, I love to have those life changing experiences as frequently as I possibly can 595 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,600 because my life needs constant changing. 596 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,640 And I was so grateful for that. 597 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:06,600 For some reason, it felt ultra reverent to me, it felt like there was just an abundance 598 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,520 of the spirit there. 599 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,200 And I don't think that, you know, the building hadn't changed. 600 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,980 I don't think the people were different that were coming and going or anything like that. 601 00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:22,440 But I had because I challenge our Institute kids every Sunday or every Wednesday. 602 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,680 I want to talk about how was your sacrament experience. 603 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,000 And if we don't talk about it, I want you to at least reflect on it. 604 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:35,440 What was your sacrament experience like this week and has it enhanced your week? 605 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,520 Because we're midweek on Wednesday, you know. 606 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:43,840 And so it's a perfect time for us to review and take a personal potential interview or 607 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:49,800 inventory rather on where am I in terms with my relationship with my sacrament covenants 608 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,320 or the covenants that I have renewed this past week. 609 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,280 And I think that this is the thing that has occurred to me and I've done a lot of thinking 610 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:06,320 about this, a lot of meditation on the sacrament and the ordinances thereof, all of that. 611 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:12,600 And I think to me, it occurs to me that when we go to the temple, we set ourselves apart. 612 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:18,720 We walk into the temple, we put our phone in the locker or leave it in the car or we 613 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:24,320 dress a certain way and we go through this ritualistic preparation to do that. 614 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:30,520 And all of that prepares our heart and our mind for what we are about to receive. 615 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,040 And that aids us a great deal. 616 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:38,640 In my view, it aids us a great deal in aligning our thoughts and our minds with what it is 617 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,960 that we're about to do when we participate in the ordinances in the temple, for example. 618 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:49,480 When I go to church, you know, and this in past days, you know, and fighting kids to 619 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,160 get there on time. 620 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:57,000 I'm stressed about did I get this assignment done for my calling on time? 621 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,800 Is my lesson prepared? 622 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,760 Am I going to need to sit during the sacrament and read through my lesson in preparation 623 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,000 because I haven't prepared properly? 624 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:12,920 And, you know, it occurs to me that it can be a very, it can become, and this is not 625 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:20,400 by way of accusation, it's by way of self-admission and confession, but it can become just a 626 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:26,040 casual experience if unless we are again, and then we come back to that word, right, 627 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,000 intentional about the way we approach the sacrament. 628 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,320 I see the sacrament as the single most important thing that I do on a regular basis. 629 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,600 Yeah, I would agree. 630 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,240 The single most important thing I do on a regular basis. 631 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:42,240 Yeah. 632 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:43,240 Yeah. 633 00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:44,240 For sure. 634 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:49,400 And the reason I see that is because if I really want access to the Spirit, if I really 635 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:56,640 want to be overcome the effects of the fall of Adam and Eve or the fall of Scott Durfey 636 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:06,280 in my own life, then the sacrament is the participation of me, my participation rather, 637 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:15,000 of taking the sacrament and allowing that spiritual communion to take place. 638 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,000 It affects me. 639 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:23,520 Well, what do you think is the connection between you, the trials that you started this 640 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:31,600 podcast with saying how you've been really attacked and then having that experience on 641 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,600 Sunday? 642 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,600 How do you think those are connected? 643 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,880 Oh, they are so, so, so think about this. 644 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,400 When I go to the temple, the first thing I learn about is the fall. 645 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:48,480 One of the first things I learn about is the fall and how it's impossible for me, in and 646 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:54,240 of myself, to provide for me the things that I need in this life and in eternity to find 647 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,360 peace and happiness at any level. 648 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,960 And so that's, you know, that was me. 649 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,760 Then I come to the sacrament table and I come with an attitude of worship and I come with 650 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:13,960 a heart pleading to have his spirit consume me so that I can fill the love of the Lord 651 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,160 instead of the trials of the world for me. 652 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:25,360 That participation in the sacrament is the source of change or of keeping my boat right 653 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,360 throughout the week. 654 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,360 Yeah. 655 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,240 As we end this today, Scott, I just want to read the fifth key to receiving personal 656 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:39,520 revelation one more time, repent of the sins of omission. 657 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,000 That's the key. 658 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:52,760 Be intentional and diligent in using the instruments of grace such as the scriptures, prayer, sacred 659 00:46:52,760 --> 00:47:01,320 art and music, ordinances and covenants, fasting, magnifying callings, ministering and rendering 660 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,640 service. 661 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,680 By small simple things, great things come to pass. 662 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:15,600 And then I conclude that key by just saying develop a daily plan of priorities. 663 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,440 You know, that's that's just the way we need to be more intentional and diligent is I think 664 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,280 by by really thinking about our day and by really small simple things. 665 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:30,000 They don't have to be big and they don't have to take a long time out of our day. 666 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,720 But these small simple things, small simple choices about what am I going to listen to 667 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:36,480 right now? 668 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:45,480 You know, I recently developed a habit, a new habit of doing such a simple thing. 669 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:51,640 And that's putting a conference talk on my phone when I lay in bed to go to sleep. 670 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:59,840 And I've been now going to sleep for weeks listening to the voice and the words of prophets. 671 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:06,040 And I think that's a small simple thing that has made a great change in my life. 672 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:14,920 I have a dear friend who was diagnosed with with clinical chemical depression. 673 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:21,980 And he you know, he did everything the medical profession and therapists and others, the other 674 00:48:21,980 --> 00:48:25,360 things that that were great help to him. 675 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:31,200 But he just told me personally that he thought the thing that helped him the very most was 676 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:40,080 that every morning when he would go get ready for the his day, he would listen to conference 677 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,920 talks when he showered shaved. 678 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,720 He would be listening to general conference. 679 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:51,520 That's a small simple thing that can make such a difference. 680 00:48:51,520 --> 00:49:00,280 It's an intentional diligent act of faith that I believe the Lord will answer with a 681 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,840 extra gift or endowment of the spirit in our lives. 682 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,280 And he told me that that helped him get through his day. 683 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,840 He thought as much or more than anything else he did. 684 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:20,960 So I there just those are so many things that God has given us to help us to. 685 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:29,040 Be able to have a relationship and receive communication from him and to see his hand 686 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,520 more in our lives. 687 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:41,080 So let's let's just be mindful and assess what am I not doing that I should be doing 688 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:49,200 or what am I not doing that I could be doing to in order to draw closer to our Heavenly 689 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,480 Father and receive the spirit and strengthen our relationship with Jesus Christ in our 690 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,680 lives. 691 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:59,600 If we would just use this fifth key, I know that we would be able to receive more personal 692 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,600 revelation. 693 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:05,560 Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to send out an invitation for you to share those with us. 694 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,160 I know that there's a lot of you who are having those experiences. 695 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:14,960 There are things that you like that maybe if you have a minute, just drop us a line. 696 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,040 He redeems us at gmail.com. 697 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,920 Just drop us a line. 698 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,200 Maybe share your experiences around your own instruments of grace that are alive in 699 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,200 your lives. 700 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,720 Thanks for being with us, everybody. 701 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:27,720 Thanks, Dave. 702 00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:31,520 Appreciate you being here today and we look forward to being with everybody again next 703 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:32,520 week. 704 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:49,880 And until then, be well.