1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:20,840 Everybody welcome out another episode of Redeemed Through His Blood Scott Durfey here joined 2 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,280 as always by Uncle David Durfey 3 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,280 What's up Dave? 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,840 Good to be here Scott. 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,840 Kind of burr though. 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,640 Yeah it's been burr. 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:34,240 It's been bitter, brutal, cold on the Wasatch round over the last couple of days and I don't 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,240 think it's going to let up at any time. 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,240 Yeah snow, snow, snow. 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,240 Let it snow. 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,240 It just came a month late. 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,240 Yeah it did. 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,480 The ski resorts are loving it which means I'm loving it so that I can get up there. 14 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:46,480 I've been up a few times. 15 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:50,400 Can't wait to get back up though when the snow actually gets a little better. 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:56,560 Good to be with you Scott and I know we've been talking about the resurrection. 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:05,680 Again this is kind of maybe our last discussion about the atonement of Jesus Christ, the four 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,240 elements of the atonement of Jesus Christ. 19 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,000 What make up what we call the atonement. 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:21,040 Just to review, one, his sinless life wouldn't have been easy and out of great sacrifice 21 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,200 he never committed a sin. 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,800 That would have been a lot harder for him than it is even for us because again of the 23 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:38,640 degree, the source and all that he suffered through temptation. 24 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,720 Guess Emoni, we talked about that. 25 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,280 Special beliefs we have about guess Emoni. 26 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:50,160 We talked about the cross and how we need to maybe even I think in our culture focus 27 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:57,640 more on the cross and we're talking about his death and resurrection. 28 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:04,760 So we talked I think about kind of the events, the events of the atonement and the events 29 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,800 of his resurrection. 30 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:12,400 I would just want to kind of follow up and talk about the resurrection, the doctrine 31 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:19,080 of the resurrection and today talk a little bit about the order of the resurrection. 32 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:25,200 You know, we talk a lot about in our church and I think in our church only, we talk about 33 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,760 the morning of the first resurrection. 34 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:34,880 Well if there's a morning, then that means there's probably an afternoon or evening. 35 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:40,920 And I just think it's interesting to review kind of what we believe about the order of 36 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:41,920 the resurrection. 37 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:47,040 Scott, so let's let's jump into that today. 38 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,720 David and I were talking earlier about how important it is to have a testimony of the 39 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,560 resurrection of Jesus Christ to really understand. 40 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,960 And you know, one of the things I think that you asked me a few minutes ago as we've been 41 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:04,560 talking about this this morning is you said, Scott, what if you had absolute knowledge 42 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,800 and there was no doubt and there was not no faith required, but you knew that you would 43 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,960 be resurrected that the resurrection is real and you had that real knowledge of that. 44 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,880 How would your life be different? 45 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,280 As we begin this process and talking about this today, I invite all of our listeners 46 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,080 and I've accepted the invitation myself as well. 47 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:30,960 Let's pay attention, let's listen to and figure out how will our lives be different. 48 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:36,480 Would they be different if we had a complete testimony or real testimony of the resurrection 49 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:42,040 of Jesus Christ and the resurrection that will come to all of us eventually. 50 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,920 So I love that you put post that earlier, David, when we were talking about these things, 51 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,560 I think that's something that, you know, we should all be considering as we go through 52 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:51,560 this. 53 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,120 It not only changes. 54 00:03:54,120 --> 00:04:00,440 I think your approach to life, how you live life because it does that for me. 55 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:05,960 But it also Scott, I think gives me such such peace. 56 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:13,160 I know I know death is sad and mournful and all of that, but it's not something that 57 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,400 needs to be feared. 58 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,560 And there's just so many people who fear it. 59 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:28,040 And I think it's because they do not have the real knowledge understanding of the of 60 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:35,320 the resurrection of Jesus Christ himself and the resurrection of of all mankind. 61 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,880 I mean, I know we bear testimony all the time in church. 62 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,560 You hear it all the time every first Sunday of the month. 63 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:51,960 You know, I know that Christ lives, but I wonder if they really feel or see or know what they're 64 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,240 saying when they say that. 65 00:04:54,240 --> 00:05:01,120 I know they believe it, but I just think if they really knew that, what does that mean 66 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:08,360 about what's the implication of that in regards to the resurrection of all mankind? 67 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:14,840 You know, we talked about the events last last time, Scott, about all of the witnesses, 68 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:23,200 you know, the Mary and the 11 because Judas is gone, committed suicide, the 11 apostles 69 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,160 when he enters the room. 70 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,600 The door is closed by the way. 71 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,600 Luke makes that point. 72 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:33,200 The door is closed and he enters the room, the power of a resurrected being to enter 73 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:42,120 a room like Moroni did on September 21st, 1823, when he entered the cabin as a resurrected 74 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:47,840 being resurrected beings have have certain powers and abilities. 75 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:50,960 They work at a different dimension than we do. 76 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:56,640 And there's so much to know and learn that we that we don't really know now about what 77 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:02,040 a resurrected being is, but there were so many witnesses of Jesus's resurrection, Scott. 78 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,880 I mean, we have a dozen of either individuals or large groups. 79 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:14,560 So equaling in the thousands and thousands, really, of those who saw Jesus Christ and 80 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:21,480 became I and ear witnesses of his physical resurrection. 81 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:28,840 Well, I just if we would have been one of those, you know, if you could be an eye or 82 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:34,360 ear witness of the resurrection, how would that change your life? 83 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:39,560 And it's just interesting that after the resurrection is over and after he has ascended 84 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,760 into heaven, I we may have read this last time, but I kind of want to begin in the book of 85 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,320 acts today in the book of acts. 86 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,120 Jesus spends 40 days with them. 87 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,480 40 days, Scott, as a resurrected being. 88 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,480 Yeah. 89 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,120 I mean, that ministry, if we knew much about that ministry, I think that would change our 90 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,120 lives. 91 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,120 Yeah. 92 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:07,080 But this Luke writing the book of acts says in verse three, speaking of Jesus Christ, 93 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:13,840 to whom also he showed himself alive after his passion, or we could say his suffering, 94 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:23,320 his atonement by many infallible proofs being seen of them 40 days and speaking of the things 95 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,400 pertaining to the kingdom of God. 96 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Wow. 97 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,280 Many infallible proofs. 98 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,840 Well, what proof do you have? 99 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:33,840 What proof do I have? 100 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,840 What proof do our listeners have of the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ? 101 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:45,960 And I want to share a few of those today as well as talk about witnesses, I and your witnesses 102 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,320 that we have of the physical resurrection. 103 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:56,000 And then as they after Jesus has ascended into heaven, you know, and he those two men 104 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:01,680 in white, those two angels, which I think many kind of have accepted that it might is 105 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:07,280 probably Michael and Gabriel, and they say, ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up 106 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,680 into heaven? 107 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,200 This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven. 108 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,880 This is verse 11 of Acts chapter one. 109 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:24,200 This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven shall so come in like manner as 110 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,320 ye have seen him go into heaven. 111 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,640 Wow. 112 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:37,360 With a physical body, resurrected body, he didn't slough it off. 113 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,320 He didn't leave it behind. 114 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,320 He didn't hide it somewhere. 115 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,680 Jesus Christ has a physical body. 116 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:51,240 Our heavenly Father has a physical body. 117 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:59,040 We know that there are other beings who have been resurrected and have physical bodies. 118 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,460 And we'll talk a little about the about that today and the order of the resurrection. 119 00:09:03,460 --> 00:09:10,800 But in verse 22 of this same chapter, as they're discussing about who should replace 120 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:17,680 Judas as the member of the 12, the newest member of the 12, they talk about some qualifications 121 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:22,480 that would be required to be an apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ. 122 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,720 And in verse 21 and 22, maybe Scott, you want to read those? 123 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Yeah, you bet. 124 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,680 Wherefore of these men which have accompanied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went 125 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:38,680 in and out among us, beginning from the baptism of John unto that same day that he was taking 126 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:44,360 up from us, must be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection. 127 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:50,080 So the qualification to be an apostle or a member of the 12 then was what? 128 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,120 Witness with us of his resurrection. 129 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,640 A witness of his resurrection. 130 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,120 That hasn't really changed, Scott. 131 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:06,960 When we talk about our living apostles being special witnesses of Christ or special witnesses 132 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,360 of the name of Christ to all the world. 133 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,800 Section 107 of the Doctrine and Covenants. 134 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,360 We're really talking about being witnesses. 135 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:24,960 Now I'm not saying that they have to see, they have to touch, but I just want to share 136 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:32,880 with you the apostolic charge here given by Joseph F Smith, which I have always found 137 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,400 to be really interesting. 138 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,760 President Joseph F Smith and this was in a general conference, so it even kind of raises 139 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,640 the level of I think importance. 140 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,440 I think it was like 1906 in general conferences. 141 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:51,520 Him talking about the apostles, living apostles says these 12 disciples of Christ are supposed 142 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:58,640 to be eye and ear witnesses of the divine mission of Jesus Christ. 143 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,200 It is not permissible for them to say I believe simply. 144 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,840 I have accepted it simply because I believe it. 145 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:06,840 Read the revelation. 146 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,160 The Lord informs us they must know. 147 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,280 They must get the knowledge for themselves. 148 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:18,840 It must be with them as though they had seen with their eyes and heard with their ears 149 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,920 and they know the truth. 150 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:28,600 In another statement, a later statement he said, every member of the council of the 12 151 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:35,560 apostles should have, and I feel sure have had, the knowledge of the resurrection, the 152 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:39,920 physical resurrection of Jesus Christ. 153 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:46,520 And he goes on to say this has not come necessarily by direct visitation of the Savior, but it 154 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:51,040 does come from the sure testimony of the Holy Ghost. 155 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:56,040 The testimony of the Holy Ghost is the strongest testimony that can be given. 156 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,440 I believe that. 157 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:06,440 I believe we have living apostles who like Peter qualifying who could be or should be 158 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,800 the next apostle selected. 159 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,480 I think they have to be eye and ear witnesses. 160 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:19,720 Now whether that's in a dream or a vision or even the eye of faith or something given 161 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:25,880 to them by the gift and power of the Holy Ghost, they have those witnesses. 162 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:31,960 I've had some pretty special experiences in my life, Scott, listening to testimonies of 163 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:41,080 the 12 who came, I think, really close sharing some detail about those, about those witnesses. 164 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,920 I was in the Marriott Center. 165 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,040 This was right after I had been married and Chris and I were living in Provo. 166 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,040 I didn't have any children. 167 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,920 I went to the Marriott Center all alone and setting up in the rafters because I just wanted 168 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,640 to be alone. 169 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,480 There was a few around me, but I remember this distinctly. 170 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,360 It was so powerful. 171 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:05,240 And I remember listening to Spencer W. Kimball. 172 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,560 This would have been in like 1978. 173 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:18,080 I'm sorry, I don't have the exact month or year, but I was sitting there listening to 174 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,920 him in a priesthood session of General Conference. 175 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,160 It was being, I'd gone there. 176 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,520 They were still listening to it on the radio and stake centers, but I'd gone to the Marriott 177 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:34,080 Center because they had this new thing about shortwave television and we could actually 178 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,560 see him in the Marriott Center on a big TV on a big screen. 179 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:39,560 What is it? 180 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:41,880 Satellite TV, satellite TV, probably. 181 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:47,680 And so I wanted to, I wanted to see him on the big screen and, and you know, he was in 182 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:50,640 in the Tabernacle and I was watching this. 183 00:13:50,640 --> 00:14:01,160 And I remember when he got to the end of his testimony, he said, I want to like my predecessor, 184 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,960 John Taylor. 185 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:14,560 I know that God lives and I know that Jesus Christ lives because I have seen them in the 186 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:15,960 name of Jesus Christ. 187 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,960 Amen. 188 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,000 That's how he ended his testimony. 189 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,680 And I remember about falling off the bench. 190 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,680 I mean, it, it physically affected me when I heard that. 191 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:34,000 And I remember there was a guy kind of sitting down to my right in front of me who gasped 192 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,760 an older man and he gasped, gasped. 193 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:43,320 I mean, physically I went, oh, there was, there was kind of a gasp that went across 194 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,040 the Marriott Center. 195 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,080 So I don't know. 196 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,600 I'll never forget that. 197 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,520 And I believe that Scott. 198 00:14:50,520 --> 00:15:00,320 I was at the MTC when Elder hate, David B. hate just a few years before he passed and 199 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:09,200 he was sharing with his, with the missionaries at the, at the MTC, his testimony, his call, 200 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,600 his call to the 12. 201 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,720 Let me kind of paraphrase. 202 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,880 But this is, this is what he said. 203 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:24,600 I remember that when I was called to the 12 and they sent me apart in the, in the meeting 204 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,840 with the first presidency in the form of the 12 at the very end of the meeting, that was 205 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:35,560 the last thing on the agenda to set me apart as an apostle. 206 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:46,480 And he said, when President Kimball set me apart and after, after he had sent me apart 207 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:53,680 as an apostle, he said to me, now brother hate, this room is available for the rest 208 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,360 of the day. 209 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:03,640 I would counsel you to stay here until you receive your special witness. 210 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,800 And he said, they all left me. 211 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,200 That was the end of the meeting and they all left me. 212 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,040 And I was just there alone. 213 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,800 And he said, I didn't know what to do. 214 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,440 So he said, I prayed. 215 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:26,720 Then he said, there were pictures of the savior in the room, several pictures of just the 216 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,560 savior in the room. 217 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:36,320 And he said, I started to stand in front of each picture. 218 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:44,320 And I would stand there and ponder the story or the event depicted by the picture. 219 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,200 And he said, I would go to the next one. 220 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,400 And then the next one. 221 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,400 And then the next one. 222 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,080 And then he paused. 223 00:16:55,080 --> 00:17:00,000 And he said, I can't tell you everything. 224 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:06,480 But when I left that room, I was a special witness. 225 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,000 I don't know if that's a pattern. 226 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,720 I don't know if that's always what they do. 227 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:20,000 But I remember when he was sharing that man, the missionaries were feeling it. 228 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,320 And I was too. 229 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:27,960 I was setting on the stand with Chris and I remember us feeling that that witness that 230 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,160 he shared of being a special witness. 231 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,840 And I know the missionaries felt it too. 232 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,240 And I'll never, ever forget that meeting. 233 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:43,440 And I've heard I've heard in other public meetings, you know, some of the witnesses, 234 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:52,440 like for example, Boyd K. Packer, this was in the sesquicentennial, right of the church 235 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,640 150th anniversary. 236 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,600 And President Packer stated, I can read this. 237 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,600 I fell. 238 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:04,680 I feel compelled on this 150th anniversary of the church to certify to you that I know 239 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,040 that the day of miracles is not ceased. 240 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,880 I know that angels minister and the men. 241 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:16,520 I am a witness to the truth that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, the only begotten 242 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:22,080 of the Father, and that he has a body of flesh and bone. 243 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,920 That he knows those who are his servants here. 244 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,280 And he is knowing of them. 245 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:34,400 The Lord reveals his will through dreams, visions, visit, visitations through angels, 246 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:39,320 through his own voice and through the voice of his servants. 247 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,360 I remember, I remember that witness. 248 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:50,640 I remember another time when President Packer talked about, you know, it's kind of near 249 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:56,240 one of the end of his testimonies near the end of his life when he said, I not only know 250 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,320 he lives, I know him. 251 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,840 And there have been others who have said that. 252 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:07,680 And there have been many of the prophets who have been born testimony. 253 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:16,240 Melvin J. Ballard, who saw him in a dream or vision when he was in Montana. 254 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,200 That's been well documented. 255 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:24,240 Wilford Woodruff bears witness when he was called to be President Church, visitation 256 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,920 that he received. 257 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,520 Lorenzo Snow. 258 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:35,480 That's been well documented of the vision that he had of Jesus Christ physically appearing 259 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,400 to him in the Salt Lake Temple. 260 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,000 Right after he was called to be President of the Church. 261 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,600 In fact, I'll never forget one of the temple workers. 262 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,600 Chris and I were celebrating our 10th wedding anniversary and we went back to Salt Lake 263 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,800 Temple where we'd been married. 264 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,600 And we were just in this celestial room having such a great time. 265 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:01,440 And we were just pondering and we didn't realize that they closed at noon and and we'd come 266 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,680 there in the morning and we were sitting there and sitting there and sitting there in this 267 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,680 sweet old temple worker just sitting there smiling at us and we didn't notice nobody 268 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,280 was coming and going in the celestial room anymore. 269 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:20,880 And he came over to us and he said, I really hate to bother you, but the temple has been 270 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,440 closed for an hour now. 271 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,920 And I just wondered how long you would like to stay here. 272 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,960 And we said, oh, we didn't know. 273 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,960 We're sorry. 274 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,280 We didn't know that it closed. 275 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,280 We're so sorry. 276 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,960 We can go right now. 277 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,720 And he said, well, you look like you're having a special experience. 278 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,640 And we said, well, it's our 10th anniversary. 279 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,880 And he said, well, would you like to see something special? 280 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,960 And so he took us back and he showed us just off the celestial room in the Salt Lake Temple. 281 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:55,120 He showed us where the bed where Lorenzo snow actually lived or slept in the temple and 282 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:57,240 his desk there is bad. 283 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:03,320 And he took us over to the staircase and he said, this is where present snow told his 284 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,760 granddaughter that this is where Jesus appeared to him. 285 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,560 Jesus appeared right here. 286 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:17,280 That's got, you know, I know Joseph Smith saw the father and the son. 287 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:23,120 I know that I've been to the sacred grove many times and even once with you. 288 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:25,400 And I know they appeared there. 289 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:38,240 But when we have so many eye and ear witnesses of the physical resurrection, the life of 290 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:47,240 Jesus Christ, it's hard for me to understand anybody who could leave the church or who 291 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:53,480 or reject the testimonies of prophets and apostles when we have so many of these witnesses. 292 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,400 And I don't, I don't believe them just because they say it. 293 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:03,840 I believe this because the Holy Ghost has born witness to me that they're telling the 294 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,360 truth and it's true. 295 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:14,840 And I remember my own special witness of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 296 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:20,120 You know, I think everyone should ask themselves, have I had that witness? 297 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:26,040 Now I know it could be part of a general testimony of the gospel of Jesus Christ and the restoration 298 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:33,480 of the of the gospel and a testimony of Jesus that you believe that that he lives. 299 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:40,120 But I remember receiving a sure witness of the of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 300 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:47,400 And it was when I was a young man, Chris and I had just moved into Highland or Highland 301 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:57,960 Ward and Brother Lacombe had cancer and Brother Lacombe had these beautiful, this beautiful 302 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,400 family, these younger children. 303 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:06,920 I think I think Brother Lacombe was probably about 40 years old. 304 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,600 Probably about 10 years older than me. 305 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,720 I remember the day in priesthood meeting, I was sitting in the Elder's Corum in the 306 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:22,880 morning and and our good Bishop came into the Elder's Corum and announced to us, just 307 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,840 wanted you to know that Brother Lacombe died this morning. 308 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:34,320 Oh man, Scott, I was about 30 years old and I, I hadn't really, I mean, I had seen death 309 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:41,080 and I had experienced some friends, but not really, not really too many in my family who 310 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:47,200 who had died and not even really any grandparents because most of my three of my grandparents 311 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:52,120 died when I was either not born yet or when I was really young. 312 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:57,320 And I just hadn't had anybody who I really knew close to me who had died like that. 313 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,680 And it really affected me for some reason. 314 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:07,120 I love the Lacombe family and I remember when the Bishop made that announcement. 315 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:15,880 What came into my mind was if Brother Lacombe is not going to rise from the dead, what are 316 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,640 you doing sent here? 317 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,640 You're wasting your time. 318 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,320 Very similar to the question that Paul asked the Corinthians Saints, right in 1 Corinthians 319 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,320 15. 320 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,360 I think we read that in our last. 321 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:33,720 Yeah, we read that last week that we're wasting our time. 322 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,280 If Jesus isn't resurrected, we're wasting our time. 323 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,360 Paul, Paul makes that statement. 324 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:44,440 And I remember thinking that I remember thinking if Brother Lacombe isn't going to rise from 325 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,320 the dead, you what are you doing sitting here? 326 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,520 You're wasting your time. 327 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,440 You might as well go home. 328 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,600 And as I thought that Scott, the Holy Ghost washed over me. 329 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,040 It was powerful. 330 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:07,680 It was the still small voice, but powerful, small, simple testimony. 331 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,720 I knew. 332 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,040 I knew that he would live again. 333 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,840 I'll never forget that. 334 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,720 It became a powerful shore witness to me. 335 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,960 I knew that. 336 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:27,680 It came from a heavenly divine source and it wasn't coming from me. 337 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:36,120 And I'll always be grateful for that moment in an elder's quorum receiving that testimony. 338 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:43,040 Shore witness of the resurrection, the universal resurrection, really. 339 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:54,800 And so I hope our listeners will maybe review their life, their testimony, what they believe, 340 00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:00,680 what they accept in faith and what they know about the resurrection. 341 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:06,880 One of the unique parts of our culture is we talk about the morning of the first resurrection. 342 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:12,960 So I kind of want to just talk about the, I talk about this sometimes in the temple. 343 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:20,520 But I'm doing ceilings because the, the, the wording in the temple marriage or ceiling 344 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:27,560 ceremony in the temple talks about the coming forth in the morning of the first resurrection. 345 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,000 And that's a phrase that we use in, I think I've said that in probably most patriarchal 346 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,480 blessings I've given. 347 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:40,000 I think many patriarchs do as I visit with those who I know who are patriarchs, but it's 348 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:46,200 not necessarily in every patriarchal blessing, it doesn't have to be there. 349 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,240 But I think about the morning of the first resurrection. 350 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,200 That was a, that's not, that phrase is not in the scriptures. 351 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:59,400 The scriptures talk about the resurrection of the just and the resurrection of the unjust. 352 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,920 The scriptures do use the phrase, the first resurrection and the scriptures do use the 353 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,840 phrase, the last resurrection. 354 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:14,880 So we know that there are two resurrections, a first and last or resurrection of the just 355 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,800 or unjust. 356 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:24,600 The prophet Joseph Smith, because I believe of the scriptures in 76 and 88 and other, 357 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:30,560 other revelations that he had received, he began to talk about the morning of the first 358 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,800 resurrection in his teachings. 359 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:38,360 And I think one of the first times he talked about it was a funeral for a brother Barnes. 360 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:42,440 I think his first name was maybe Lorenzo Barnes. 361 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:50,640 And in this, in this funeral address, which was in Nauvoo, Joseph Smith talks about the 362 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,800 morning of the first resurrection and he talks about it. 363 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:02,600 He uses that term about three or four times in the morning of the first resurrection. 364 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,760 And we, again, you can see it in doctrine, come and say, don't use the term morning, 365 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,400 but you can see that there are different parts and there's different timing of the resurrection 366 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:20,280 and that each kingdom of glory, celestial kingdom, terrestrial glory, telestial, that 367 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,720 all of them, there's an order to their resurrection. 368 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,980 And we, we learn in the scriptures, we know that nobody who's a terrestrial being will 369 00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:34,960 be resurrected until all of those who are celestial or who have lived the celestial 370 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,160 law. 371 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,960 So section 88, Scott talks about, you can only receive a celestial body or celestial 372 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:50,360 glory if you're willing to live to live a celestial law and that no one who's terrestrial will 373 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:57,380 be resurrected or come forth until those who have lived the celestial life will be resurrected. 374 00:28:57,380 --> 00:29:03,560 So there's an order to the resurrection and the morning of the first resurrection, that 375 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:11,280 phrase is referring to those who all were resurrected, who lived before the Christ, 376 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,320 who lived a celestial law. 377 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:19,880 All of those who were resurrected since Christ, who have lived a celestial law. 378 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,560 And we have, we know that individuals have been resurrected since Christ. 379 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:30,280 We know that the resurrection is ongoing and we know that we are in the morning of the 380 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:36,800 first resurrection, meaning when those who are, are celestial are resurrected. 381 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,320 That is the morning of the first resurrection. 382 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,540 We know that Peter is resurrected, James is resurrected. 383 00:29:42,540 --> 00:29:46,040 We know that Moroni is resurrected. 384 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:54,000 There's an interesting account of a good man in Blanding, Utah, who witnessed the resurrection 385 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,600 of a, of a lamanite little girl. 386 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:04,520 You know, he even sees hair come on her head and, and as a crystal or something of a decorative 387 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,800 nature in her hair. 388 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:12,480 And he witnesses this little, I think he says seven or eight year old little girl who was 389 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,480 resurrected. 390 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,320 This in the early 1900s. 391 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,480 As he's plowing his field and it's made known to him that, that someone with a priesthood 392 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,480 who probably dedicated that grave said that, that her body would not be disturbed until 393 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,560 the morning of the first resurrection. 394 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,560 So I, I, the resurrection is ongoing. 395 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,240 And I think that these miracles are occurring all the time that we may not be aware of, 396 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,720 which however some individuals have seen. 397 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,760 And our listeners can look that up. 398 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:53,280 It was Zeke Johnson, Ezekiel Johnson in Blanding, Utah, who shared that experience. 399 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:58,120 And the only reason I really believe it, Scott, I mean, our listeners can choose to believe 400 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,120 it or not. 401 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,400 It's not going to, not going to affect their salvation, where they do or known. 402 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,400 But the reason I believe it's because I know somebody who lived in Blanding, who was a seminary 403 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:14,840 teacher at Blanding, and he knew the family and he heard the story and he shared with 404 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,280 me his own personal witness and testimony of that. 405 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:24,640 And because of my love and my trust in that good brother who shared that with me, I, I 406 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,640 don't disbelieve it. 407 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,400 I'll tell you that. 408 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,520 I don't know if it's true or not, but I don't disbelieve it. 409 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,200 And I know the resurrection continues and all of this, we're in the morning of the first 410 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,400 resurrection right now. 411 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,400 And it will continue. 412 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,600 Yeah, it will continue through the second coming of Jesus Christ. 413 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:47,000 And at some point in the, in the millennium, when all of those who have lived a celestial 414 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:54,480 law are resurrected, then we move into what is you could call, don't hear this phrase, 415 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,840 but we could call it the afternoon or the evening. 416 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:02,480 I prefer probably evening, the evening of the first resurrection, which is when all of 417 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,840 those who have lived a terrestrial life or law will be resurrected. 418 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,560 That's the evening of the first resurrection. 419 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,840 Then the last resurrection or the resurrection of the unjust, there's, we could say there's 420 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:24,240 a morning of the last resurrection, which is those who lived a celestial life, those 421 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,480 who lived a celestial life. 422 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:31,200 And by the way, the doctrine, covenant section 76 gives you a whole description of what you 423 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,560 have to do to go to the telestial kingdom. 424 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,120 You know, how bad you have to be to go to the telestial kingdom. 425 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,440 It's pretty clear. 426 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:46,600 So you can, you can read what it takes to live a telestial or a terrestrial or a celestial 427 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,720 life. 428 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:54,360 And that would be the morning of the last resurrection for all of those who are going 429 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,040 to experience a telestial kingdom or glory. 430 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,320 And then the sons of perdition will also be resurrected, Scott, and that would probably 431 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,440 we can refer to as the evening of the last resurrection. 432 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,400 So there's kind of four parts to the resurrection and the order of the resurrection based upon 433 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:19,400 the law that they were willing to live and the glory or in the case of sun perdition 434 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,600 out of darkness that they are going to experience. 435 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,360 You know, this is one of the effects and we're going to talk about the effects of the Atonement 436 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:33,440 of Jesus Christ not so much today, but as we roll into next upcoming episodes, we'll 437 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,800 be talking about the effects. 438 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:40,000 But this is actually one of the unconditional effects of the Atonement of Jesus Christ is 439 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,000 a resurrection. 440 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,160 And I wanted to point that out today because this isn't just as coming back to life. 441 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:51,240 This is us coming back to our body, our body and our spirit being reunited in perfect 442 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,240 form. 443 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,320 None of us have ever experienced that before. 444 00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,760 You know, we experience life and we get great deal of pleasure and satisfaction and joy 445 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,240 out of having bodies and just living this life. 446 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,360 But we are in an imperfect body because of the fall of mankind. 447 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,160 We are subjected to that fall. 448 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:16,200 Our body and our spirit are both subjected to that fall and we feel those effects. 449 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,080 When that resurrection happens, we will be made perfect. 450 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,520 Our bodies will be made perfect. 451 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,720 Not a hair of our head will go unnumbered, right? 452 00:34:23,720 --> 00:34:25,360 Everything will be made right. 453 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:31,240 I'll be, you know, six foot two and 205 pounds of muscle or something. 454 00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:32,400 I don't know, probably not. 455 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,160 It all still be better looking than you. 456 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,080 That's exactly the resurrection. 457 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,440 Because that's equitable. 458 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,320 So our bodies are sacred, Scott. 459 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,320 They really are. 460 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,320 That's my point. 461 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:50,120 You're making a really important point, which is that we will not lose our identity. 462 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:56,360 That our, when we come forth in the resurrection, some of the scars, some of the imperfections 463 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,080 of our body will not be there, but that we will have the same bodies. 464 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:08,320 You know, the Prophet Joseph Smith and Brigham Young both taught that there is a fundamental 465 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:14,680 part and I think what they were really describing, you know, DNA, don't even really know what 466 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,680 that stands for except some long words. 467 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,960 Something nucleic acid. 468 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,960 Yeah, exactly. 469 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,760 You know, it really wasn't him. 470 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,720 I don't think it really, people knew much about it until the mid 1900s. 471 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,400 I mean, they couldn't really put structure out of it. 472 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,720 They didn't know it was a helix and that until the mid 1900s. 473 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:41,920 I even though apparently some, someone may have found that a Swiss, Swiss scientist back 474 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,800 in the late 1800s. 475 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,880 But I think what they were describing Brigham Young, Joseph Smith or some prat talks about 476 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,360 Joseph Smith teaching this, that there were fundamental parts of a body and that those 477 00:35:54,360 --> 00:36:01,040 fundamental parts were the building blocks upon which the resurrection would take place. 478 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:06,640 Bring them in, call them the component parts of our, of our bodies that would not be lost, 479 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,200 that could not ever possibly be lost. 480 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:17,440 I think about my, my uncle, you know, who my mom would always, you know, we had a big 481 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,400 giant picture, remember in. 482 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,400 Carl. 483 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,960 Yeah, in the room of her brother, her little brother. 484 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,960 They were very close. 485 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,360 He was just a few years younger than my mom. 486 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,880 Carl Taylor was a really important part of my mom's history. 487 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,520 And we as children were always hearing stories about her little brother Carl and about the 488 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:46,280 day that the person was dispatched to their home and he was missing in action, that he'd 489 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,720 been shot down. 490 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:48,800 World War II. 491 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:56,000 Remember the English Channel and you know, the effect that that had on my mom and her 492 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,480 family. 493 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:03,120 And I even remember thinking when I was a little older and I heard stories of Carl, 494 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,800 wow, he was shot down. 495 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,640 He was, he's still missing in action. 496 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,720 They never found his body. 497 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:11,120 It was in the ocean. 498 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,640 It's been lost. 499 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,480 It's dissolved. 500 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,240 It's been, who knows? 501 00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:25,640 I mean, I, so who knows where his body is, but God knows and that and his DNA will never 502 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,280 be lost. 503 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:35,760 And out of that DNA, that component fundamental part of his body, his perfected body will 504 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:44,960 be not just recreated, but perfected and he will come forth. 505 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,640 I know that that's true. 506 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,360 And you know, the, the doctrine comes when you were talking about the resurrection in 507 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,520 the second coming. 508 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:58,200 I love this scripture in section 133 talking about the second coming. 509 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:05,480 Verse 56, and the graves of the saints shall be opened and they shall come forth and stand 510 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:12,320 on the right hand of the lamb when he shall stand upon Mount Zion and upon the holy city, 511 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:18,200 the new Jerusalem, and they shall sing the song of the lamb day and night forever and 512 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,680 ever. 513 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:25,960 And for this cause that man might be made partakers of the glories, which were to be revealed, 514 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:32,480 the Lord sent the fullness of his gospel, his everlasting covenant. 515 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:39,080 I love that testimony and I, I know that's true that the resurrection is ongoing. 516 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:49,400 It does continue, but it will be, um, what an amazing event to for us to behold Scott 517 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:57,640 when Jesus comes again and the graves of the saints are opened and will come with Jesus. 518 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:04,240 And I have many loved ones who I look forward to seeing who I know will be on the right 519 00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:09,920 hand of God when he of Christ, when he comes, when he comes again and I look forward to 520 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:10,920 meeting them. 521 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:18,960 I, I believe I, I look forward to the day when maybe at Adam on the almond when he even 522 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:25,640 appears there that some of those resurrected beings ancestors family will be there at Adam 523 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:33,560 on the almond in preparation for his appearance to the world in glory when there will be, 524 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:40,000 you know, some major changes made in the world and the wicked will be burned and the righteous 525 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,920 caught up in a rapture and I believe in those events. 526 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:50,320 I know they're true and, um, I hope I just really hope and pray that our listeners will 527 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:58,600 seek to receive that witness for themselves of the resurrection, the reality, the reality 528 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:06,760 of the resurrection and of the coming events which we all pray will happen soon when Christ 529 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,520 comes again to the earth. 530 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:15,440 Even though even the earth will be to some degree changed Scott and renewed back to its 531 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,600 fair to cycle glory. 532 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:23,080 You know, I'm, I'm wanted to say this because it'll affect my family, your family and all 533 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,880 of our listeners families. 534 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:31,880 Alma when he was trying to help his son, Corianton when wayward Corianton was struggling, the 535 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:39,160 one thing that Alma wanted to make sure Corianton had right in his mind was the resurrection, 536 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:45,320 that the resurrection was real and that it was going to happen and that he should understand 537 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,840 that there would be a resurrection and a judgment. 538 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:56,280 That was really an important doctrinal point that Alma father prophet wanted his wayward 539 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:04,440 son to know because he knew that if he could get Corianton to feel by the power of the 540 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:11,040 Holy Ghost, the truthfulness of that, that it would change his behavior and Scott, I 541 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,480 know that's true. 542 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:18,080 If we could all get a witness and help our children and our children's children to get 543 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:27,520 a witness of the reality and the divinity of the resurrection and the judgment, it will 544 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,280 change how we approach life and it'll change our behaviors. 545 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:38,200 Thank you to all of our listeners and we'll look forward to next time. 546 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:43,360 We're going to talk about and this is maybe my, I don't know, I don't have probably a 547 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:52,240 favorite part in this course, but I really, really love to talk about the effects of the 548 00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:53,760 Atonement of Jesus Christ. 549 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,640 We've talked about the events. 550 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,200 We spent how many four or five podcasts on that now? 551 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,200 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 552 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:05,760 On the events of the Atonement and next week we'll begin to talk about the effects of the 553 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:12,040 Atonement of Jesus Christ conditional and unconditional effects of the Atonement of Jesus 554 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,440 Christ and I look forward to that. 555 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,800 That actually is my favorite part of the course because that's kind of what brings us together, 556 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:20,800 Dave. 557 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,760 You know, this, your, my background is a little bit different than yours that brings us to 558 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,800 this and it's the effects. 559 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,800 It's the hope. 560 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:28,800 It's the healing. 561 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,560 It's the effects of the Atonement of Jesus Christ that brought me around that will bring 562 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,840 us all around eventually and it is definitely my favorite part of what we're definitely, 563 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,440 what we'll be talking about here. 564 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,440 Hey, gang. 565 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,160 Thanks so much for being with us. 566 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:47,880 Good time to shoot emails to us at HeReDemesUs at gmail.com as we come into the effects and 567 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,480 we start talking about all of the things that are upcoming. 568 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,720 So much of the questions that you've already asked will fit. 569 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,200 Thanks so much for being with us, everybody. 570 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:12,680 We look forward to being with you again next week and until then, be well.