1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:21,200 Hey there everybody welcome back to another episode of Redeem Through His Blood. 2 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,080 Scott Durfey here, Dave Durfey here too. 3 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:25,080 How are you David? 4 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:30,680 Hey hope everybody's having a happy new year and you survived the holiday season and we're 5 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,000 probably back into the stuff. 6 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 To the stuff. 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,440 The stuff that we do. 8 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,320 I think it's nice to have this break that we've had over the holiday season but there's 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,520 just something to be said about getting stuff back going. 10 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,520 Yeah. 11 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,520 Getting stuff going. 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,520 Getting back in the saddle. 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,520 Yeah getting back in the saddle. 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,520 Getting it. 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,920 It's kind of cowboy that you are. 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,880 Getting cowboy back up I guess I don't know but just getting back in a routine. 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:08,640 I think that I don't know some of us don't do well when life's not structured and a little 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,640 more routine for us. 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,360 Yeah I love the change. 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,240 You know it's good to have a break. 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,480 Yeah for sure. 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,880 And you know read a couple books. 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:18,880 For sure. 24 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:19,880 Through your break. 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,880 Have you done that? 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,880 Yeah. 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,880 I have. 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,440 I've loved it. 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,840 That's fantastic. 30 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:35,040 I'm loving a book that I'm reading called Wilford Woodruff and the Doctrine of the Temple. 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,040 Oh very cool. 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,040 Yeah. 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:47,120 And how the ordinances of the temple kind of line upon line precept were developed. 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,640 I've always loved Wilford Woodruff. 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:54,440 I think he's always been maybe one of my favorite prophets when I was teaching this to class 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,440 years and years ago. 37 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Yeah. 38 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,000 The lives of the presence of the church. 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,880 And I love teaching that class. 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:10,120 And I really I really loved Wilford Woodruff and Joseph F. Smith. 41 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,120 I love. 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Anyway. 43 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:18,520 They they their lives and Wilford Woodruff was just miraculously saved so many times 44 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,200 in his life and maybe one you know I'm not a great fisherman but he kind of invented 45 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,600 fly fishing. 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:25,600 Wilford Woodruff. 47 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:26,600 Yeah. 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,600 Did you know that? 49 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,600 Go on. 50 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:29,600 Yeah. 51 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,560 He coming across the plains Wyoming. 52 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,120 He kind of invented fly fishing. 53 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,640 I had no idea. 54 00:02:35,640 --> 00:02:36,640 Yeah. 55 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:37,640 That's interesting. 56 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:38,640 I know. 57 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:39,640 That's cool. 58 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:40,640 I guess right. 59 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:48,480 And and he was just a rough tough loving just I just love his story is live his way. 60 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:55,200 His romance with his wife Phoebe and his mission to the Fox Islands in Maine which by the way 61 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,200 when I was there. 62 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,200 You were just there. 63 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,200 I looked up the Fox Islands. 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:04,080 It's a whole series of islands and he had a lot of family members that lived on the 65 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:09,800 Fox Islands and he went on a mission there and I man I've always loved him. 66 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:15,120 I've I've felt close to him when I was in Maine and anyway I'm loving this book. 67 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,120 Yeah. 68 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:22,680 And what we do in the temple today is because the revelations received by Wilford Wilford 69 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:29,160 Woodruff and fact that St. George temple you know that they just finishing the open house 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:36,680 and soon dedicate is where he he actually was the first president of the St. George 71 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,560 temple before he was president of the church. 72 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Bring him young set him apart as in a he was an apostle and he was also temple president 73 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,400 St. George and he had that vision of all the signers of the Declaration of Independence 74 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:56,600 and Jonah Vark and others who appeared to him and that he did their work for them and 75 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:03,760 I found out that he has he in his lifetime he would keep a record of all the ordinances 76 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:13,000 that he would do for his family members and he did all of the ordinances baptism confirmation 77 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:21,000 you know the washed anointed endowed sealed he did all of those ordinances for over three 78 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,560 thousand of his ancestors. 79 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,760 He did him individually for those. 80 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,760 Wow. 81 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,320 Anyway I don't know if he did them individually. 82 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,320 But he saw him through but he saw him through but he did a good number of them. 83 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,320 Yeah. 84 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,320 Yeah of course. 85 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,320 He did a good number of them. 86 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,320 Yeah. 87 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:42,520 And anyway I thought wow I gotta I gotta pick up my my game a little bit. 88 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,520 Yeah. 89 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,160 Yeah me too me too. 90 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,760 For those of you who don't know which is probably most of you don't know that Dave's 91 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,360 quite the historian. 92 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,000 He has his master's degree actually I think in American history right. 93 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Yeah. 94 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,160 I got the master's in history. 95 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,240 I love history. 96 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,120 And he you know when we we've gone on a just a couple years ago we did a little Nauvoo 97 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,760 trip with friends and family and Dave's done this for years. 98 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:06,760 Nauvoo sacred grove. 99 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,840 I mean we yeah we went all the way back sacred. 100 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:10,840 Yeah we've done it all. 101 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:11,920 We did the whole thing. 102 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,920 Pretty much the whole thing. 103 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,680 You know Dave and Dave's been doing this since about when I was about the time I graduated 104 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,240 from high school I think he started doing that on a pretty regular basis. 105 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,880 And I think I may have one more of those in me Scott. 106 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,640 I hope you have more than one. 107 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:30,600 If if any you know we might we may go on a mission you know next year. 108 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:31,600 Oh that's right. 109 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,600 Yeah. 110 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,720 But I've got enough people asking me to do it that I may do one more. 111 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:44,880 So if any of our listeners friends and family want to go on a church history tour and maybe 112 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,800 email us and let us know because I may I may do one in June. 113 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:49,800 Yeah do that. 114 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,800 In June. 115 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,960 In fact that'd be really fun to do and we could even incorporate a lot of what we do 116 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,360 here in the podcast if we did it David. 117 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,360 Yeah. 118 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,760 Anyway well send those emails to he redeems us at gmail.com. 119 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:02,760 I love the book. 120 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,320 I'm reading a book as well. 121 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,200 I'll just talk about it briefly and then we'll get into the topic today. 122 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,400 But I'm reading Heart of the Matter by Russell M. Nelson. 123 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,400 His newest. 124 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:14,720 What a treat. 125 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,720 You know a hundred years of wisdom basically. 126 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,120 You know and not just wisdom but prophetic wisdom. 127 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,240 And I'm just absolutely loving it. 128 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,680 Deb and I have enjoyed a couple of the chapters together and what a just a gift. 129 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:35,480 I hope that you know personally I see President Nelson and I'm beginning to see well I've 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:42,480 seen for a long time as well the other brethren as and also gifts to us you know to be able 131 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,960 to have restored what's been restored through the Prophet Joseph Smith and then you know 132 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:59,160 passed on by way of ordination and that type of thing to those powers and and and abilities 133 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,080 those ordinances. 134 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,840 I don't know the better word to use but but to have that available to us today. 135 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:07,000 What a gift and I'm grateful for that. 136 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,320 Yeah for sure Scott. 137 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:10,320 We're blessed. 138 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Hope all you feel blessed going into the new year and that you have some New Year's resolutions 139 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:25,200 and that those include strengthening your understanding of and relationship with Jesus 140 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,000 Christ and hopefully this podcast will will help you do that. 141 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,920 We're going to go into some depth beginning in this podcast into the atonement of Jesus 142 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:43,000 Christ and we talked about last podcast about why he needed to suffer to fulfill the the 143 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:53,320 laws and the law and the demands of justice and to make mercy available to us so which 144 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,920 fulfills the law of justice. 145 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:01,160 So we want to begin now to talk about the events of the atonement. 146 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:06,960 We'll spend a couple of podcasts going into some depth on the events of the atonement. 147 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,880 I've learned Scott that in order to really understand the events you have to read some 148 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:11,880 scripture. 149 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,000 I once was trying to teach the atonement of Jesus the events of the atonement of Jesus 150 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:25,320 Christ to a class and I went back to my office after doing that and just felt so disappointed. 151 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:32,360 I just didn't feel like I had done justice to the events of the atonement of Jesus Christ. 152 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,960 I felt like I had missed the mark. 153 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:42,600 I had not really helped the students to understand or fill to the depth at least I wanted them 154 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:49,200 to understand and fill the atonement of the events surrounding the atonement that make 155 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,920 up the atonement of Jesus Christ and I went back to my office and I wept that I nailed 156 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:00,560 that and I prayed and I had this clear impression. 157 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:04,240 Well you didn't read any scripture. 158 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:12,760 I was teaching them about but I learned Scott you cannot just teach about the events of 159 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,080 the atonement. 160 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,240 You have to read it. 161 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,080 You have to study it. 162 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:26,880 You have to hear the words that prophets and witnesses use to describe it that I you and 163 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:36,040 I know mortal has has the ability to really use words to teach it. 164 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:42,040 It can it is best taught by reading what the prophets have said about it. 165 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,200 So just a heads up and I know we can't read all the scriptures. 166 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,560 We don't have time to do that but I hope our listeners will. 167 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:56,560 We'll go to some of the references and read them as we describe some of these events. 168 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:04,320 But you have to use scripture to really understand the events and the Bible does a pretty good 169 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,040 job of doing that. 170 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:12,480 One reason we should be most grateful for the Bible is because it tells us what Jesus 171 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,640 did. 172 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:22,160 And yet it doesn't tell us in the same depth for example it doesn't tell us that he bled 173 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,960 from every poor. 174 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,720 We have to learn that in the Book of Mormon. 175 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:31,240 So there's there's some verses like that that through restoration scripture we have a deeper 176 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:37,880 understanding and should have a greater appreciation for the atonement of Jesus Christ. 177 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:44,960 But the Bible so grateful for what's been preserved and then what's what the Bible teaches 178 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:50,120 us about the events of the atonement of Jesus Christ. 179 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:56,200 I brother Matthew used to always say the Bible teaches us what Jesus did and the Book of Mormon 180 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,480 best describes why he did it. 181 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:06,120 So I believe that's true and we'll kind of refer to all the standard works today and 182 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,440 teaching about some of the events of the atonement. 183 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:15,000 Next week or in a couple weeks because I think this will take probably two podcasts talk about 184 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,760 the events and then in a few more weeks we'll talk about the effects of the atonement of 185 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:26,080 Jesus Christ and how it overcomes the the the fall of not only Adam and Eve but the fall 186 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:33,360 of you and me and all of the not just in iniquities of the world but also all of the in equities 187 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,200 of the world we'll we'll go into some depth on that and that's where we'll probably get 188 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,520 more into the Book of Mormon scriptures. 189 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,000 Why don't we just spend all the time on the effects. 190 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,440 Why are the events important for us to understand Dave. 191 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:52,600 Well great question because when you when you understand the events when you understand 192 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:59,280 I know we can't comprehend what Jesus did but when you get a glimpse or you the closer 193 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:06,360 you come to understanding what he did then the more humble you are and you you can't 194 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:14,480 have a broken heart and contract spirit without going to get Femini and getting a witness 195 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:20,640 of what he did get Femini or going to the cross and and standing there at the cross 196 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:28,160 and witness him and hear his voice as he cries out you know my God my God why has self forsaken 197 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:37,400 me these events understanding the events is what not only increases our gratitude but 198 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:45,200 it brings about a broken heart and contract spirit so to increase our gratitude which 199 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:51,200 increases our desire gratitude is the beginning of desire Scott understanding the atonement 200 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:56,760 over Scott taught brings about immense gratitude which gives us the motivation to live the 201 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:05,320 gospel so it increases our gratitude understanding the events and then it's it's really really 202 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:12,240 humbling yeah to understand what our sins cost to God there you go I think it's important 203 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,280 because you know when when we when we hear the invitation and it's before us every week 204 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:22,040 those of us in the church you know come on to me you know come follow me come on to me 205 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:27,240 and so the question is you know obviously that's the answer the answer to a lot of our problems 206 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:33,320 is come on to me the answer to a lot of our problems is you know come where I am come 207 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:41,040 follow me and the question is and we ask it and the prophets and apostles have answered 208 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:47,120 it but where is he when he invites us to come unto him well he's there he's in the events 209 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,400 he's in the events of the atonement right he's in he's in the he's in Gethsemane he's 210 00:13:52,400 --> 00:14:00,080 on the cross he's participating in the resurrection and so when I'm invited to come there I have 211 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:07,280 a deeper love a deeper appreciation in fact it's ineffable there's just no words that 212 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:13,560 can describe the cleansing that I feel or the hope that I feel or the joy that I feel 213 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:18,960 or the happiness or or any of that that comes to me there's just no possible way for me 214 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:24,720 to feel that if I don't in my mind in my heart through scripture through other ways of study 215 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,040 go there and be with him there. 216 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:33,560 I used to ask my students that question Scott you know when Jesus invites us to come unto 217 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:41,680 me to come unto me to come unto me it's over and over 20 something times in the scriptures 218 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:49,360 and he invites us to come unto him I would ask my students so so where is he and I think 219 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:57,240 most of their answers would be he's in the temple right so that's that's what many of 220 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,960 them would say and I love that I do too because there he is there. 221 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,280 Absolutely that's that's a great answer and others would say other things like he's on 222 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:12,160 a mountain or he's you know he's with the poor he's with the needy and all all the answers 223 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:21,000 were great they were all great but then I I would say well I love your answers but when 224 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:27,600 he invites us to come unto him unto him it's not always going to be comfortable or easy 225 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:35,640 and it's going to maybe cause you a little pain if you see him in Gethsemane and I believe 226 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:45,000 that when he invites us to come unto me he's inviting us to feel the effects of the the 227 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:51,040 consequences of the events of the Atonement of Jesus Christ you know I my mind goes to 228 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:56,120 the Book of Mormon and when he appeared to the to the people at bountiful at the temple 229 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:01,320 and bountiful you know after all the destruction and and they fall down when he appears to 230 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:10,200 them as a resurrected being and they they fall down in in fear and awe and he he says 231 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:17,880 no no no no no no come unto me come unto me and feel the Prince of the nails in my hands 232 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:28,200 and thrust your hand into my side paraphrasing that's Scott that would be painful I just 233 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:35,960 think that would be really can you just even imagine thrusting your hand into his side 234 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:42,680 feeling the Prince of the nails in his hands and feet that's what it means to understand 235 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:51,800 the events of the Atonement I mean they had an experiential you know moment in understanding 236 00:16:51,800 --> 00:17:01,000 the consequences of the events of the Atonement what their sins what their sins had cost a 237 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:09,880 God and evidence of his love I mean really understanding events of the Atonement is to 238 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:16,600 understand and witness the love of God for his children I'm not just talking Jesus Christ 239 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:24,920 I'm talking the Father that the Father would allow his son to go what he went through in 240 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:33,360 the depths of sorrow and spiritual death and physical suffering that God would allow his 241 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:42,400 son to go through that for not just the whole world but for you and me that's the importance 242 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:49,440 of understanding the events right and when you know that and you know he loved you first 243 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:57,680 then you love him a little more right let me just segue for just a second here you know 244 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:04,240 in recovery in the rooms of recovery my heart lies there I have a great work still there 245 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:10,800 on a pretty constant basis but we have steps you know steps one through 12 there's 12 steps 246 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:18,000 we were talking about this earlier this morning Dave you and I but step two is so important 247 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,720 step two is came to believe that a power greater than myself could restore me to sanity now 248 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:28,240 that's a pretty generic way of putting it you know we understand that to be much deeper than that 249 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:34,560 we understand that to be came to understand that through Jesus Christ I can be made whole I can 250 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:44,800 be redeemed I can be cured healed fixed whatever the case may be right and then step three is we 251 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:49,840 make a decision to turn our will in our life over to him you know which which is important we 252 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,400 have to make that as members of the church members of Christianity as members of anything we have 253 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:00,160 to make that same choice to turn our will in our life over to him and I would just hope that as we 254 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:06,880 go through the next few episodes here and we talk about the events and the effects of the 255 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:13,120 Atonement of Jesus Christ that we can in our own minds and in our own hearts reconcile that 256 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:18,320 challenge to turn our lives and our will over to him when we get into repentance we'll understand 257 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,240 the importance of that because all I'm really talking about is contract spirit here we know 258 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:30,400 broken heart contract spirit but if we can begin to posture ourselves in such a way now that as we 259 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:36,560 enter into these experiences of understanding the events and then later on the effects of the 260 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:43,600 Atonement of Jesus Christ we will begin to feel a peace immediately immediately without delay 261 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:49,760 even though we may feel unworthy of it even though we may have lived you know last episode we talked 262 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:57,040 about how heavenly father there's no qualification necessary in order for us to approach him lovingly 263 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:03,760 that was from Elder Christopherson I believe but but as we do that and as we begin to fill 264 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:11,120 this in our lives and and feel and understand the events and the effects later of the Atonement 265 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:17,040 of Jesus Christ then that hope can come to us too the Atonement we you know we use that term a lot 266 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:23,360 and and I want to say up front that when we use that it should always be associated with Jesus 267 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:32,320 Christ our Savior Redeemer that his name or his title should be right before that or right after 268 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:38,240 that and President Nelson has has taught that strongly since he's been president of the church 269 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:46,960 is that there is no power in the Atonement itself and that the Atonement doesn't stand alone 270 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:56,720 that the power that that comes is through Jesus Christ it's through this our Savior and Redeemer 271 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:04,880 so when we talk about the Atonement of Jesus Christ we are really talking about four events 272 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:13,680 and the first one is a sinless life we'll describe that detail here in a few moments 273 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:25,360 second is Gethsemane the Garden of Gethsemane third is the cross and Golgotha the crucifixion 274 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:33,680 of Jesus Christ and fourth is his death and resurrection those are the four events when we 275 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:40,880 when we talk about the Atonement of Jesus Christ we're talking about those four events and if any 276 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:47,600 one of those would not have occurred I believe the Atonement of Jesus Christ may have been incomplete 277 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:57,680 and not finished it's I love the words you know the few last words of Jesus on the cross it is 278 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:06,080 finished and when he says that I think he's contemplating his sinless life Gethsemane cross 279 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:13,920 and then he dies right after speaking those words and three days later will be resurrected and so 280 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:21,600 let's let's get into those events but before we do I just want to talk about the central nature 281 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:31,200 of the Atonement of Jesus Christ in our theology and in our personal lives and how we should kind of 282 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:39,360 couch it how we should see it as being the center of everything that we do and the Prophet 283 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:44,080 Joseph Smith taught this in the teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith when he said 284 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:53,680 quote from teaching the Prophet Joseph Smith page 121 the fundamental principles of our religion 285 00:22:53,680 --> 00:23:01,520 are the testimony of the apostles and prophets concerning Jesus Christ that he died was buried 286 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:09,280 and rose again the third day and ascended into heaven and all other things which pertain to our 287 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:19,760 religion are only appendages to that everything Scott is centered around these events of the 288 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:27,200 Atonement of Jesus Christ anything else is only an appendage present Boyd K Packer said it this way 289 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,680 that I believe he was thinking about what the Prophet Joseph Smith had taught what he what he taught 290 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:42,560 the Atonement of Jesus Christ is the very root of Christian doctrine you may know much about the 291 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:49,520 gospel as it branches out from there but if you only know the branches and those branches do not 292 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:58,480 touch that root if they have been cut free from that truth there will be no life nor substance 293 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:08,800 nor redemption in them I've used that so many times in my eclastic and educational life as an 294 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:16,480 institute teacher and eclastic a leader Scott honestly I've learned that it's that is so true 295 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:24,000 that if if we're doing things in the church if priesthood leaders or sister leaders in the church 296 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:36,240 are doing anything that does not center in on or focus on or is not touching the Atonement of Jesus 297 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:44,800 Christ it will die yeah if you focus on programs or even principles or or even doctrine that is 298 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:54,240 not focused on the Atonement of Jesus Christ and the redemption of Christ I promise you it will die 299 00:24:54,240 --> 00:25:03,280 there's no life in it I've learned that in life we put so much emphasis on doings on and on other 300 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:09,600 things but if those things you know and if we put emphasis on those things that's great as long as 301 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:15,200 we have the ability to tie that back to where that lies in the teachings of or the effects of 302 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:22,160 the Atonement of Jesus Christ if we don't do that then we are setting ourselves up for frustration 303 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:31,440 for confusion for for for anxiety I mean you know just a just a lack of understanding of the 304 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,760 Atonement of Jesus Christ and understanding these other things to the nth degree but not 305 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,240 understanding how they tie into the Atonement of Jesus Christ and where they spawn from the 306 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,280 Atonement of Jesus Christ that can really create a problem within us and I see it you see it I see 307 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:51,760 it it's among us all the time and everywhere right as we get into this now Scott I'm hoping that 308 00:25:51,760 --> 00:26:00,560 all of our listeners will just be more aware really more grateful have deeper understanding 309 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:08,560 deeper gratitude but also be more mindful more aware of when you when you talk about the gospel 310 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:14,720 of Jesus Christ or when you're you're teaching your children or you're talking about you're 311 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:21,040 trying to help someone who's who's having difficulties or whose wayward or or whatever 312 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:29,600 that the focus will always go back to Jesus Christ and in his Atonement I just think that's so 313 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:36,960 critical you know President Howard W. Hunter used to always say that let me let me find the quote 314 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:45,920 here I have it right here President Howard W. Hunter please remember this one thing okay here's 315 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:52,560 the one thing one needful thing again if our lives and our faith are centered upon Jesus Christ 316 00:26:52,560 --> 00:27:03,840 and his Atonement nothing can ever go permanently wrong love that nothing can nothing can ever 317 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:11,920 go permanently wrong on the other hand if our lives are not centered on the Savior no other 318 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:24,560 success can ever be permanently right oh amen to that I I that's kind of when I perform a 319 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:33,520 live ceiling in the temple that's kind of my thesis I guess I don't try to give any marital 320 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:42,000 counsel we're actually counseled not to give marital counsel when we perform a live ceiling 321 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:50,800 we should focus on the on the temple ordinances and for me everything in the temple is centered 322 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:58,400 in the Lord Jesus Christ in fact of the ceiling rooms of the temple Saratoga Springs temple where 323 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:07,840 where I where I serve I make the point and this is true for all the ceiling rooms in that temple 324 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:14,720 the altar is I promise not one inch off from being the center of the room 325 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:24,080 and I believe that the altar represents the suffering atonement of Jesus Christ the blood 326 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:33,840 of the lamb the the lamb of God and the chandelier that hangs above the altar I promise is not off 327 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,960 by one inch being the center of that ceiling and I believe that represents the light of the world 328 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:46,000 I believe that everything about the temple points us to Jesus Christ and in some way 329 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:54,480 represents this the Savior and His atoning sacrifice and love for us and so I kind of 330 00:28:54,480 --> 00:29:03,360 I kind of talk about that that if if your marriage is not centered in the Lord Jesus Christ 331 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,440 it may not succeed but if it is it cannot fail 332 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:20,080 I I feel pretty strongly about that Scott so I hope our our listeners as we go through the 333 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:27,840 the next few podcasts actually probably three four or five of them will we'll kind of make that 334 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:34,560 adjustment be mindful is if what we're doing or what we're counseling others to do or what 335 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:41,440 we're teaching or even what we're thinking you know goes back to doctrine and covenant section 336 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:51,440 six six look unto me look unto me in every thought and I think is that even possible but I I know 337 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:57,600 it must be here he wouldn't ask us to do it look unto me in every thought doubt not fear not 338 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:06,160 behold the wounds which pierced my side and the prince of the nails in my hands and feet 339 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:15,680 so Scott we have been invited maybe I can even say commanded that we look unto him 340 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:22,800 and the atoning and his atoning sacrifice in every thought the wounds in his side and the prince 341 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:31,520 of the nails in his hands and feet that that should be our focus yeah there again I feel 342 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:38,320 like that's drawing us to the Garden of Gethsemane the cross and resurrection right so when he's 343 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,720 saying look unto me where does he want us to look I feel like that's where he wants us to see him 344 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:54,480 absolutely yeah it was a elder Holland who who taught years ago it is the suffering Christ 345 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:05,600 that we worship really I mean we don't I love Jesus Christ for his teachings I do 346 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:15,120 I think and I think it's they're critical for for me to progress and grow but ultimately Scott 347 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:25,840 my love for the Savior it has to be centered in what he did for me as he carried out the 348 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:34,480 atonement of Jesus Christ and that begins with him living a sinless life I think this is one of 349 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:43,920 the most underappreciated events of the atonement of Jesus Christ is that in order for him to vicariously 350 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:50,000 suffer for all of the sins of the world and by the way we're I think we're pretty unique on that 351 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:58,320 belief that we that I know it's it says sin of the world in the Bible John teaches that but several 352 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:04,640 times in the restoration scriptures it talks about Jesus Christ was crucified for the sins 353 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:13,280 of the world that he suffered that he died for the sins plural of all the world that's that's 354 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:19,600 several times in the in the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants Scott and I think it's 355 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:27,680 really critical that we we understand that he didn't just do it for the good guys he did it for 356 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:36,080 everybody all the children of God Jesus suffered for all the sins of all the world 357 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:42,560 president Nelson the reiterated that in the devotional this last this christmas devotional last 358 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:55,120 month anyway I I think that one of the most underappreciated sacrifices that Jesus made and it wouldn't 359 00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:02,000 it would maybe I mean I can't compare I can't even comprehend you know how difficult all of this 360 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:12,400 all of these events of the atonement would be but Scott really to live a sinless life that I 361 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:18,960 I can't comprehend that and you know he felt again all the effects of the fall his mother was Mary 362 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:32,960 he was sorely sorely tempted he suffered he suffered temptation you and I were speaking earlier 363 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:40,160 earlier it was just a little bit about this as we outlined our podcast for today and you're right 364 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:46,240 what did what did you say about that temptation is like suffering right when I when I face certain 365 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,960 temptations they're real to me right I'm a recovering alcoholic for heaven's sake and so 366 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:57,200 you know that that comes with it strong strong desire strong strong urge strong not now but 367 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,840 it has and you know and there's and there's other ancillary components to this that are just as 368 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,560 strong but what David when I'm tempted or when I have been tempted and still when I'm tempted 369 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:11,920 there's suffering attached to that because it's not easy it's not easy for me it's probably not 370 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:18,800 easy for any of us when we really face temptation it's it's a difficult place for me to be and now 371 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:25,040 because I've learned to turn to him turn and face him turn away you know when I when I'm when I'm 372 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,840 sinning and and sometimes when I'm tempted it's maybe because I have turned a bit away but when 373 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:36,640 I turn back to him that suffering seems to be alleviated right a lot you know I don't know if 374 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:42,160 I don't know if this is a good place to point this out but you know Paul talks about Christ's 375 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:49,440 ability the necessity of Christ to have he bruised lived a sinless life right Hebrews chapter 4 376 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:56,160 in verse 15 it says for for we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the 377 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:01,680 feeling of our infirmities in other words we don't have somebody who's our high priest right 378 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,520 that doesn't get us right he gets us is what Paul's saying who doesn't who doesn't you know we can't 379 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:13,360 say well Jesus doesn't understand because he never sinned exactly we can't say that he lived a 380 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:19,360 sinless life how would he understand well there's suffering in that temptation and what kind of 381 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,640 temptation did Jesus deal with not only the temptation part of it Scott right even though 382 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:34,000 he didn't sin he felt all the negative consequences of all the sins of all the world well including 383 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:41,440 spiritual death yeah when he was on the cross the last three hours so he understands not only the 384 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:48,240 temptation of sin but just plain out sin even though he was sinless right I'll just start again 385 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:54,400 verse 15 in chapter 4 of Hebrews for we have not a high priest which cannot be touched with 386 00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:02,800 the feeling of our infirmities but was in all points all points all points tempted as we are 387 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:10,080 yet without sin I think about that and I'm like I now I know how how how I've been tempted you know 388 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,960 I have an idea of how maybe some other people have been tempted but I don't really know because I 389 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:20,400 haven't experienced what they experience I only have experienced what I've experienced you take 390 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:27,120 all of the souls that have ever lived or will ever live and Jesus felt all of that yeah you know 391 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:37,040 right turn back a page Scott to Hebrews 2 verse 18 for in that he himself has suffered being tempted 392 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:44,240 he is able to succor them that are tempted read that again read to 18 well okay so 393 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:52,800 he 218 Hebrews 218 for in that he himself has suffered suffered just pause for a minute yeah 394 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:58,560 in that he suffered well we got to finish that being tempted why did he suffer it because he was 395 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:06,320 tempted I just don't think we can really understand or appreciate how difficult it was yeah and how 396 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:14,320 much he suffered in order to live a sinless life which was all out about which was all driven by his 397 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:22,480 love for his father and his love for each of us he knew he couldn't sin right but he suffered 398 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:31,920 through all the temptations even more than any of us can suffer right so yeah there's 399 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:38,880 book of Mormon scriptures teaches as well Scott yeah right yeah Alma's I'm a seven Alma seven 400 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,160 Alma seven teaches it verse verse 11 verse 11 he shall go forth suffering pains and afflictions 401 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:49,920 and temptations of every kind and this that the word might be fulfilled would be fulfilled which 402 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:58,080 sayeth he will take upon him the pains and sicknesses of his people well temptation can I think 403 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:05,520 cause a lot of pains and sickness for sure yeah I agree among all of us king Benjamin taught it 404 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,320 in the moseye of three seven oh that's right just again we're going to read some scripture on this 405 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:16,880 to help us really appreciate the events of the atonement so in moseye three seven moseye three 406 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:24,000 seven king Benjamin said he says and lo he shall suffer temptations and pain of body hunger thirst 407 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:31,600 and fatigue even more than man can suffer except it be unto death that's pretty deep I know for 408 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:38,160 behold blood cometh from every poor so great shall be his anguish for the wickedness and 409 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:43,360 abominations of his people we know that of course occurs in Gethsemane which we'll talk about next 410 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:51,360 but but the first part of that was he suffered temptations of every kind yeah um um uh 411 00:38:51,360 --> 00:39:00,080 a benedict taught it the benedict taught it in the 15 five moseye of 15 five scott and 412 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,880 doctor and covenants 20 teaches it uh but but maybe we'll end up here yeah so here's a benedict 413 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,400 and thus the flesh becoming subject to the spirit or the son to the father being one god 414 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:19,280 suffereth temptation and yieldeth not to the temptation but suffereth himself to be mocked 415 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:25,920 and scourged and cast out and disowned by his what's the connection between mock being mocked 416 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,960 cast out by his people and temptation what's the temptation in that to separate himself 417 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:40,800 to be right right I mean I mean what's been your greatest temptation you would maybe say 418 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:47,280 it's it's alcoholism but I actually believe maybe the greatest temptation is rejection 419 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:56,400 that I might be rejected by my family by my friends by my whatever that I might be alone 420 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:03,520 I mean some of the greatest temptations are couched in our in our pride and in our fears 421 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:11,440 of of being rejected yeah that's a tough temptation and and and he didn't give 422 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:17,600 he did that yeah well think about it you know as humans our one of our deepest desires is connection 423 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:25,200 you know we we need to feel connected and we and obviously and naturally you know and I know that 424 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:31,280 though there are those that deal with extraordinary circumstances that make it difficult and sometimes 425 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,800 even impossible for it but for most of the human race our deepest desires deepest desires to feel 426 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,960 connection and when when you talk about that he will suffer temptation and yield not to temptation 427 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:49,440 but suffer with himself to be mocked and scourged and cast out there's not a greater antithesis 428 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:56,480 of connection than mocked and scourged and cast out and disowned by his own and all of those 429 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:02,080 things that alone themselves would cause great pain and suffering right but all of that was also a 430 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:08,560 temptation and he could have ended that at any moment the temptation to end it I know he was 431 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:17,200 tempted as Paul and all the prophets have taught really that he was tempted in every way temptations 432 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:26,880 of every kind I know that but I I think we don't understand or appreciate to the extent 433 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:34,160 of the temptation and I've always loved this insight by C. S. Lewis I just think this is really so 434 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:41,360 inspired it's so interesting to me how he came up on this thought but I believe it's true C. S. 435 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:49,280 Lewis in mere Christianity wrote no man knows how bad he is till he has tried very hard to be good 436 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:55,680 a silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means well this is an obvious 437 00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:05,760 lie only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it can be after all you find out the 438 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:12,480 strength of the German army by fighting against it not by giving in you know he's he's speaking as a 439 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:20,080 as a Brit here from going through World War two you know he makes reference to that you 440 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:25,600 you after all you find out the strength of the German army by fighting against it not by giving 441 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:35,200 in you find out the strength of a wind by trying to walk against it not by lying down a man who 442 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:42,640 gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour 443 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:52,480 later that is why bad people in one sense know very little about madness they have lived a sheltered 444 00:42:52,480 --> 00:43:02,400 life by always giving in we never fight we never find out the strength of the evil impulse inside 445 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:12,400 all of us until we try to fight it and Christ Jesus Christ because he was the only man who never 446 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:21,360 yielded to temptation is also the only man who knows to the full extent of what temptation means 447 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:31,840 and how difficult it can be he is the only complete realist I love that I really love that that idea 448 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:38,880 and thought that I mean we know that he you know when he began his mission Scott in Matthew chapter 449 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,920 four that he he went into wilderness according to the Joseph Smith translation to be with God 450 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:51,120 not to be tempted but he went there to be with God and yet trying to be with God sometime in that 451 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:59,600 40 day experience Satan appears to him and Satan directly directly attempts him in three major ways 452 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:10,720 with his physical appetite fasting to give in to his his lust for power his lust for pride I just 453 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:17,600 think there's none of us are probably going to experience to the extent that Jesus experienced 454 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:25,600 temptation not not only temptations that I think we may not experience but the depth the level 455 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:37,680 the the comprehensiveness of the temptations and it's got I temptations temptations of every kind 456 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:47,840 he felt temptations of of anger temptations of of lost temptations of pride temptations of 457 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:57,200 jealousy temptations of anyway and never doctrine covers section 20 and did not give heed 458 00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:06,560 now I know he felt it I know he felt all of it and yet he never yielded or gave heed so I gave 459 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:18,240 into it I I just hope that we can maybe be more grateful even in our prayers for the sinless life 460 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:29,760 of Jesus Christ and understand the critical nature of this of his sinless life and the 461 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:40,160 the important part of this of this part of the atonement so the number one event in the atonement 462 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:47,280 of Jesus Christ is his sacrifice and his suffering in living a sinless life 463 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:57,120 Dr. Nacovnich chapter 20 or section 20 verse 22 he suffered temptations but he gave no 464 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:04,080 heed unto them I think there's a very short scripture but I think the power in that scripture 465 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:10,480 is just enormous you know you're talking about how each of us deals with temptation and how each 466 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,360 of us how you feel it how I feel it how those around us feel it but do you know what we will 467 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:22,240 never know I will never know how you feel temptation Dave yeah you'll never know how I feel temptation 468 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:29,120 I know how I feel temptation my temptation is the only temptation that I have any kind of association 469 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:34,000 to right I mean I can imagine because we're all human and I think there's there's some probably 470 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:43,200 some commonality there but Jesus understood it 100% all in fact Scott I believe I believe this 471 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:52,720 that in order for him to really understand us he had to understand all the temptations that every 472 00:46:52,720 --> 00:47:00,480 individual in this world experiences in order to sucker us he had to experience it that's what 473 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:07,120 well he moves to 18 teaches right but not only experience it but experience it to its extreme 474 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:13,120 to its extreme more than more than man can suffer correct that's kind of my point that's what I 475 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:20,000 'm getting at you know is that it's easy for me to not easy but sometimes we say I understand what 476 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,960 you're going through and we try you know we try to empathize with each other and we do have 477 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:31,440 certain touchstones to certain touch points that allow us that empathy but we have no real 478 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:40,000 touch point not like Jesus does because he lived the sinless life yeah I'm thankful 479 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:48,480 that he was willing to make that make that sacrifice and and do that out of his love for me and his 480 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:57,120 love and obedience to towards his father but second to second event is his guest Semine 481 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:04,320 and maybe we should wait to get into that the final last week of his life 482 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:13,920 uh and talk about the last 24 hours of his life which you know starts in the upper room 483 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:22,400 of the where they have the sacrament and uh he he gives them some of his greatest teachings that 484 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:29,280 have been well preserved and recorded by John then they sing of him and after they sing of him 485 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:35,680 they go to the guest Semine he takes the 11 apostles because Judas has gone to do his 486 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:44,000 dirty deed of of betraying Jesus with 30 pieces of silver which was the price of a slave 487 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:52,080 in the Old Testament and so he takes the 11 to guest Semine and then he takes the three Peter 488 00:48:52,080 --> 00:49:03,040 James and John uh in closer to him within a stone's cast Luke records and uh he yells down and we 489 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:09,360 don't have maybe the time to get into those events in this podcast so we'll wait and and do that in 490 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:15,600 some detail yeah in the meeting of all of that in the next one which is fine I think that we've uh 491 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:21,680 we've tackled enough today for us to really if we spent the entire week this week contemplating 492 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:28,000 the importance of Jesus Christ's sinless life why was that important and not only what why was it 493 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:34,800 important but how does that qualify him to be my savior how does that qualify him to be my suck 494 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,680 or uh as it's talked about in the scripture as well I think that we've got a lot to think about a 495 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:44,960 lot to contemplate and I and I pray and challenge us maybe this can be an invitation for each of us 496 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:50,960 that as we partake of the sacrament this next time that we have the opportunity to do it that we really 497 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:59,920 go there with worshipful attitudes and gratitude for what he did go through and and and I think 498 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:06,640 is so often that we don't contemplate or consider the sinless life its impact how difficult that 499 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:12,560 would have been and I and I challenge invite us rather I invite us all to as we partake of the 500 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:18,880 sacrament this week to contemplate those things as we take his name upon us and always strive to 501 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:25,680 remember him yeah thank you and I I don't know if uh maybe I said this maybe I didn't but I want to 502 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:33,760 make the point why the sinless life was so critical and the sinless life was uh required of him 503 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:44,000 because if he would have committed again one sin one sin of omission commission one sin 504 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:52,400 then his suffering would have all been for himself and it could have never been the vicarious 505 00:50:53,040 --> 00:51:03,200 sacrifice that he was for ordained to carry out so I'm so grateful that he could take upon himself 506 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:15,440 my sins because he sacrificed to not sin that's I hope that's uh something that we can all thank 507 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:21,200 our heavenly father for and express to our heavenly father that he might thank Jesus 508 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:31,120 for his sinless life so we hope you're having a happy new year maybe part of a new year resolution 509 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:39,360 might be to uh make the atonement of Jesus Christ more the center of our lives to to actually kind 510 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:45,840 of experiment with what it means to look unto him and the wounds and the prints in his hands and feet 511 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:53,680 continually look unto me and every thought how do we kind of I I just invite all of us to maybe 512 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:59,040 experiment with that in the coming weeks and throughout the new year and as we experiment I 513 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,880 think that we should take notice of where our lives are being different where the effect is 514 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:11,040 taking place in our own lives I'm I'm grateful for that effect in my life I'm grateful that that 515 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,400 effect though it's not anywhere close to being finished is on a continual basis of drawing 516 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,960 closer to him and I think that's an opportunity for all of us hey thanks for being with us again 517 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,840 this week we look forward to being with you each and every week next week included until then have 518 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:36,800 a great week everybody