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Hey there everybody and welcome back to another podcast of Redeemed Through His Blood. Scott

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or Monday. I didn't know you did that. I don't but I'd love to. It's kind of like, you know,

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hunt for Easter eggs. Yeah. And I went to, there's a wonder stone. Did you know that

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there's a rock called a wonder stone? And just the name kind of got my mind and imagination

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going. And they have a quarry out by Vernon. And so I got on a map and found the dirt road

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and went out and found a quarry and Chris and I were walking around picking up wonder

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stones. I have no idea what that even looks like. Well, everybody should Google and look

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those up. I'll have to Google that. Yeah. If they want to buy some, I have a. You've

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got some for sale. That's awesome. That's good to know. I've had a great week. I had

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an experience this week, Dave, that really kind of relates to, you know, what we do

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here. I was, you know, as my one of my responsibilities and my calling is to conduct interviews. And

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I had an interview, I guess it was a little over a week ago. And this is a common theme.

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I hear it with people quite frequently. I know you do too. People who have been in the

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church a long time and and for whatever reason, they're at a season in their life when their

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service is just not as intense serving and knowing callings and stuff like that. So as

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it may be a once used to be and I mean lots of reasons for that. Yeah. And you know, these

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are people who have been bishops and in state presidencies, you know, and all kinds of different

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things like that. So I'm having this conversation and you know, we're just talking about how

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we what are we doing to maintain a spiritual relationship and having the Holy Ghost present

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in our life all the time. And anyway, it was just brought up that this person is just like,

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you know, I used to study the scriptures all the time and I used to read and I but now

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that I just I don't really have a reason to he says I'm not teaching any classes. I'm

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I'm just I just yeah, there's some truth just don't really have a don't feel needed. That's

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right. You don't have a need to but there's a but there's a gap here and that here's the

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gap. The gap is and this is you know, this is the conversation and this is the thing

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we need to know. We're not necessarily at some points in our life, you know, obviously

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we're studying the scripture so that we can teach them. Obviously at points in our life,

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we're studying the conference talks so that we can give a lesson on it to you know, and

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very or participate in a lesson and things like that. But the real reason we do that

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that we've been talking about and we've really spent a lot of time about this over the last

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several episodes, recent episodes, is so that we can have the administrator of the Atonement

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of Jesus Christ in our lives. If at any point in our lives, we want the effects of the Atonement

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of Jesus Christ to be working in our life, then we need the administrator to be present

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in our life and those are some of the ways that we get those. And so you know, I think

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we need to expand our vision on why we do certain things in the church. You know, I

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think it's correct. I think it's the most important thing perhaps that we can do when

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we do those things is to allow the Holy Ghost to be at work in our lives. Yeah, to be alive

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in the spirit and to walk with the spirit to live in the spirit. Yeah, Paul, Paul was

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so good at expressing the importance and glations about living in the spirit, walking in the

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spirit and living with the fruits of the spirit. Yeah, that's that's really critical. And

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we all need to be intentional about that, Scott. I know, we all need to be more intentional

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and the question we should all be asking ourselves, whether we have a calling in the church or

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not, whether we feel needed or not is what can I stop doing? Or what can I start doing

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to enjoy as a constant companion, the gift of the Holy Ghost? Yeah. Honestly, that that's

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probably I think the most important question we can ask ourselves because the Holy Ghost

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is the administrator of the Atonement of Jesus Christ in our life. And in all that we've

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been talking about for the last several weeks here in season two is how can we access the

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Atonement of Jesus Christ and draw closer to him? And the answer to that is to live

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with the spirit of the Holy Ghost in our life to be worthy enough to have the spirit. And

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you know, I used to think this, Scott, when I was on my mission, I used to think, wow,

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it's really hard to get the spirit and it's so easy to lose the spirit. You know, if I

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slept in one of the three mornings that I slept in on my mission, I would lose the spirit

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and I would feel guilty and feel like I was going to hell. And I used to think, ah, it's

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so easy to lose the spirit. And it really takes a lot of work to keep the spirit. I

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thought that I remember distinctly thinking that if I didn't write it or say it out loud.

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And and now 40, 50 years later, I am completely reversed on that. It is so hard for me to

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lose the spirit. And it is really pretty simple to obtain the spirit by just simply

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asking, desiring, striving. You know, it's so easy really to get the spirit. The spirit

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I know wants to be with us. Right. The spirit's not. And if we arbitrarily, if we make a mistake

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or we sin, going to leave us. Yeah. If we're in the covenant and our desires are to do good,

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then we may not be keeping all the commandments. But if we desire to do good, the spirit's

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not going to leave us. It's really, it's really pretty easy, simple, maybe is a better word

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to get the spirit. And it's pretty difficult for us to really lose the spirit and become

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past feeling. So I am I'm really grateful for the willingness and the generosity of

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the Holy Ghost to be with us always. Yeah, me too. Me too. I you know, I've heard you

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say that before, you know, and I think I heard have heard Elder Bednar say that, you know,

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that it's kind of difficult to lose the spirit, you know, but I wonder how many of our listeners

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have experienced that or have that experience in their own lives. And so, you know, maybe

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we start with a super early invitation today. And I would just invite all of us to just

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take a self assessment on what is our relationship with the spirit? What does it look like? Where

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could it be better? But and and and maybe this is the most important part of that. What

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am I doing? Or what do I need to stop doing? Or or what do I need to start doing better

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to have it as a better to have the spirit more noticeable? I think to be more intentional

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about it, to be more mindful about it. You know, Scott, I think that a lot of people

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think that the spirit has left them when in fact, the spirit has not left them. They're

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just not paying attention. Yeah, probably they're just not living an intentional life.

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the spirit almost has to be driven away. I don't think it's it's not the spirit is

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not so delicate that he that he will leave us at every arbitrary sin or mistake or bad

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thought that we think or acts that we commit, you know, I we have to almost leave him before

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he will leave us. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Great perspective. We I take that pretty

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seriously and we're going to talk about the covenant relationship that we have by partaking

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of the sacrament, Scott, and when we always remember Christ, the spirit will always be

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with us. Even if it's remembering him in our effort to repent of sin, the Holy Ghost will

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be with us. The Holy Ghost, I think the Holy Ghost comforts us not just when we lose a

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loved one or when we're mourning over some some loss or tragedy. The Holy Ghost comforts

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us and strengthens us in our sins that he should give us encouragement if we're listening

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and seeking for his companionship. The Holy Ghost will encourage us to he'll walk us through

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the process of repentance. There will be grace at the beginning of the repentance process,

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not just at the end. Yeah. And all throughout it. That would that would that's been my experience.

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You know, when I I'm still constantly repenting, but when I went through a big repentance process,

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you know, as I was working my way back into membership of the church, you know, and things

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of that nature, I had the opposite mindset that you just described. I had the mindset

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of what I described earlier, you know, that it is hard to to happen. And I had that mindset

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and that belief. But somebody and I don't remember who or how or maybe I was maybe I talked to you

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throughout. I don't remember how or where this took place. But at some point, there was kind

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of a capitulation for me around all of that. And I began to feel that grace and I began to feel

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I don't know that I had ever and it's hard to say because we don't know how to quantify and

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measure, you know, and create metrics around feelings. But I don't know that I had ever felt

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a more direct direction from the Spirit than I did during that process in my life, even before I

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was rebaptized. Well, I think any loving parent would be the, you know, be the, you know, the first

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to give us attention. Yeah, I agree. When he knows when we're when he knows we're in need,

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if there's any desire on our part to receive that help and attention. Yeah. And he's going to send

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us the Holy Ghost and give us all that he can give us and all that we need in order to come back and

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to repair and to be healed by the Atonement of Jesus Christ. We'd all do well by modeling our

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parenting after him. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Anyway, that was important. Run to our aid. He'll sucker

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us. Run to our aid. That's right. Yeah. Well, last week, Scott, we were talking about covenants.

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We spoke a lot about the covenant relationship we read from President Nelson's training to

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General Authorities, excerpt of which was in the the Leona magazine and how he talks about

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covenants and covenant making and how the covenant gives us a special endowment of love

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and care from our loving Heavenly Father. And I want to continue, I guess, in kind of that vein

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and talk about, I think we introduced the idea that the sacrament is the renewing of all

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of all covenants that we make, not just our baptismal covenant, Scott, but all covenants that we make.

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We've talked about on this podcast the difference of different degrees in which we

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take upon ourselves the name of Jesus Christ, the difference in our standing with him and

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how when we're baptized, we are adopted by Jesus Christ and he becomes the father of our spiritual

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life, not the father of our spirits, but the father of our spiritual lives. And he becomes

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to us like a father and we take upon ourselves his name when we're baptized. And then when we go to

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the temple, we become joint heirs. We receive a new name there and we have standing and we become

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joint heirs. I think that, you know, one of the great talks or not talks, it's actually a well

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researched article, it's been in different sources. And I think our listeners could just

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probably Google it and find it. But I've always loved it. It's called The Lord Will Redeem His

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People, Adoptive Covenant and Redemption in the Old Testament in Book of Mormon. That's the name

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of the article. And it's written by Jennifer Clark Lane. Jennifer is a professor and I think she's

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been a vice president or different positions at BYU at Hawaii. That's actually available.

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If you'll just go to byu.edu. Actually, if you just do a Google search with all that,

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it'll come up. It's under Religious Study Center from Brigham Young University.

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I really recommend our listeners, if they want to really study more about this topic,

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to go to this article and to read it carefully. I think it will really give them an increased

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vision and an increased sense of gratitude for the covenants of the restored gospel of Jesus

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Christ. And that they'll see the patterns that go all the way back into the Old Testament,

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Adam and Eve and Abraham and Sarah. And she talks about the importance of a new name.

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How important a new name was as a symbol of entering into a covenant, the higher covenant

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with God and how when we're baptized, we get a new name. We become known as the children of Christ,

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Messiah 5-7. And in the temples, we receive a new name and we receive a new standing as joint

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heirs with Jesus Christ. And anyway, she discusses some of the symbols and the doctrine of making

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and keeping covenants. So I really recommend that to our listeners. That's been helpful to me over

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the years. And I go back to it and probably reread it. I don't know, a couple times a year,

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probably. I just think, Scott, we are a covenant people. The gospel of Jesus Christ has always

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been that way. It hasn't just, it's never been Old Testament with Jehovah through, even through

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before the law of Moses and through the law of Moses and into the New Testament. Jesus has always

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been a covenant God with us. Goel, he is our Redeemer. He's our Mediator. He's the Messiah.

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He's the Christ. He's the anointed one and he wants us to be anointed and we make covenants

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with him when we do that. You know, when we go to the temple, we're washed. There's so much symbolism

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in that. And it's throughout the Bible, it's throughout the scriptures. We're anointed.

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Messiah literally means anointed, the anointed one. We're anointed as his. I think we've talked

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about that, you know, the horn of oil in the temple is one of the most sacred symbols and emblems

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within the temple itself is the horn of oil, which is another symbol of Christ. And we're anointed

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with this horn of oil and we take upon ourselves Jesus Christ as we're washed clean and as we are

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anointed become kings and queens and as we're clothed in the holy garment, which is symbolic of

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the skins given to Adam and Eve with markings that are symbolic of, again, our relationship with

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Jesus Christ, which are also part of the the the bell ceremony. I mean, there's just so much in

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that there's probably not more I can say, but everything about the temple, Scott, is about us

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drawing closer to Jesus Christ in a more personal familial covenantal relationship.

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We're family, we're joint heirs, we're in the covenant. I am grateful that all of that has been

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restored in these in these latter days. I know there's been a lot of talk about

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some of the changes that have been made in the temple. You know, recently, I've, I'm a little

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older than you, Scott, but I remember, wow, there's been so many changes in my lifetime.

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haven't changed, but the language has changed over time. And a little bit the process of how we

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do the ordinances, but the ordinances and the covenants are still there.

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early days when I first took out my endowment, which is so kind of Heavenly Father. Oh, yeah.

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That he that he teaches us according to our language and our culture. In fact, when it went,

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Scott turned to 2 Nephi 31 really quick, then I think it's verse three. And read verse three,

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which I think for those who are interested in the changes of the ordinance of the temple,

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not not the ordinance, but the language of the temple. This is maybe helpful.

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2 Nephi 31 verse three. Yeah, for my soul delighteth in plainness.

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giveth light unto the understanding, for he speaketh unto men according to their language,

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unto their understanding. And we could say language and culture. Right.

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Right. The Lord, the Lord works with us according to our language of our time,

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culture of our time, understanding our understanding. He he wants us to understand

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and he'll change language and maybe a little bit the the process in order to help us to better

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understand. So I'm grateful. I'm grateful for the changes. And I think that it just makes it

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more plain and Nephi starts that verse out with how he glories, right, he glories in plainness.

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Well, Scott, one of the more significant chapters in Elder Anderson's book on the divine called

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the divine gift of forgiveness, which was we both knew in working together on the book that

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this would be the last chapter. It really is to understand the significance of the

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doctrine of Christ and the gift of repentance and forgiveness,

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the importance of the role of the sacrament. The sacrament really is the holiest ordinance

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in the restored gospel. By the way, Scott, it's been so sweet last week I

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participated in live ceilings, did my first live ceilings and sealed a couple together for time

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and for all eternity. And oh, Scott, it's it just amazes me. I know I'm just I'm nothing in that

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process or in that event. It just amazes me the authority and the power that you feel

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when you perform that ordinance. Really, it overwhelmed me, completely overwhelmed me to think

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who am I? I am nobody, I'm nothing. But I have been given the authority by President Nelson

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to seal this couple by the power and priesthood of God for time and for all eternity with a covenant

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and promise. I'm going, oh, man, the power, the priesthood, the keys under which that power is

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bestowed. Anyway, it was overwhelming for me. It was just so sweet. I'll never forget it.

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And look forward to hopefully enjoying that experience weekly now as the Saratoga Springs

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Temple is now open and operating to anyone who wants to come. And we hope that everyone will

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want to come. And I'm a functioning patriarch. Hi. Yeah, we were talking about our stake president

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again and our new stake president to is now informed me that I he wants me to continue

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to give patriarchal blessings. So little less some important events in my life. But the point of all

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of that is Scott, the power of the of the priesthood and the importance of ordinances and the

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Holy Spirit of promise that seals these ordinances. And then to think about every time we partake of

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the sacrament, yeah, we renew every covenant we have made. I told the couple that I married,

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I guess that's why I was thinking of this. I told the couple that that we're married the

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during Celeste last Friday that when they partake of the sacrament, they should think about kneeling

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at this altar. You're renewing this covenant of celestial marriage. When you partake of the

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sacrament, now you should think of Jesus. And you think you should think that because of him,

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all of these blessings and all these powers and gifts are available to us because of the atonement

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of Jesus Christ. And you should think of his torn flesh as you take a piece of that torn bread.

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And you should think of his blood as you take that little cup that came from every poor.

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And you should think about all of that. But you should also think about this altar.

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As you kneel here at the altar, every time you partake of the sacrament, I hope you'll think of

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this covenant and that you're making with each other and with God all possible because of Jesus

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Christ. Anyway, when we partake of the sacrament, we are not only repenting of our sins and again

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and again receiving all the application and the accessing the power of the atonement of Jesus

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Christ in our life by participating in a holy ordinance. But we are renewing all the covenants

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of washing and nointing all of the temple ordinances and covenants in our life.

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You know, the sacrament points us to the temple. Well, as we do that, Scott, I hope that our

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listeners can use the sacrament to be the culmination in some ways of all the covenants that

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they participate in. And I think Elder Holland and other brethren have said that it should be

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the most important hour in our week. Yeah. I've taken that pretty seriously. I know Deb has too.

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From Sunday to Sunday, sacrament to sacrament, I'm thinking of the next opportunity I'll have to

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partake of the sacrament and to continue to receive a remission of my sins to retain that

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forgiveness. Right. Right. The most important hour of our week is to participate in a sacrament

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meeting and the most important few minutes or moments of our life is to sit there and ponder

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the sacrament. I was grateful for our bishop who last Sunday stood up before the sacrament,

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before we sang the sacrament hymn and began the ordinance. I think that for me, it almost begins

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the ordinance the minute we begin to sing the sacrament hymn. I hope that everyone really

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sings and thinks about the words of those sacrament hymns would have been carefully chosen by the

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brethren in that one little section of about 20 or 30 hymns in our hymn book that all point us to

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Jesus Christ and we begin to think about him. I really believe it begins with that hymn.

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I know that when Jesus right before he went to Gethsemane, what did he do? They sang a hymn.

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That was kind of the beginning. Yeah. And so we, before we sang the hymn,

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our sweet bishop got up and asked us, just said, I felt impressed to ask you to put your phones

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on the airplane mode or turn them off. He said, I've used my phone during the sacrament to read

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scriptures. Sure. And I've done that myself, Scott. So have I. But he said, I'm asking you to turn it

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off. And I've also opened my phone to read scriptures and get a text in the middle of that

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because I haven't put it on exactly. And that distracts me. Yeah. Exactly. And I've seen members

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and I'm not I'm not judging or condemning, but I've seen members, you know, who are looking at

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different things on their phone during the sacrament. And I just think it's inappropriate.

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I don't know if we understand really, Scott, how sacred the sacrament is in our worship.

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Joseph Fielding Smith. I almost looked this up and brought the book with me today. It's in his

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volume of five books called the answers to gospel questions. But there's a part in there where somebody

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asked a question about the sacrament and the significance of the sacrament in our worship.

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And he he says, quote, whispering during the sacrament is a sin.

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That was Joseph Fielding Smith. Yeah. I think there's an exclamation mark at the end of that sentence.

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Knowing him there probably is. Whispering during the sacrament is a sin. Yeah. Now,

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I'm glad he felt that way. And I've no doubt whispered and all of us have during the sacrament.

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And we've sinned and hopefully we're forgiven right after we take the bread and water. Right.

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Yeah. But I do notice that there are sometimes communication going on that doesn't really need

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to be taking place. I do notice with some small children that that maybe maybe instead of doing

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certain activities, maybe maybe they could be taught, you know, when they're when they're as

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young as two or three or four years old, maybe they can be taught that, hey, this is a time when

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we don't read just any book. This is when we focus on the book that you have for them to read about

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Jesus. This is when we just focus on Jesus for 15, 20 minutes here. We're going to focus on

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Jesus and we're not going to be able to whisper or talk. I remember trying to teach that to my

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children and I'm sure I wasn't as successful as I wanted to be. But I had a desire to try to get

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them to understand that. And if they asked me a question or something, I would say, I'll tell you

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after the sacrament. We'll talk about it after the sacrament. We can't. We're, let's not talk

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during the sacrament. I just think that's really important that we just really focus, laser focus

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on the Savior, His suffering and Scott, our covenants. Right. Yeah. Our covenants are our name

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that we are called after Christ, that we have faith in the name of Jesus Christ, that we have

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received a standing, that we have this covenantal familial relationship with Jesus and we're renewing

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that covenant relationship every time we partake of the sacrament. So in Elder Anderson's book,

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he, he quotes some things here by Elder Oaks. And I wanted to share that with our listeners

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this morning, Scott. He's talking about always having His Spirit to be with us, the promise,

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the great promise of the sacrament is to always have His Spirit, which we've been talking about,

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the importance of having the Holy Ghost in our life. And I'm on page 269 in Elder Anderson's

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book, The Divine Gift of Forgiveness. Always have His Spirit to be with us. President Dalene

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Oaks said, I believe that the promise to always have His Spirit to be with us, not only refers

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to the Holy Ghost, but also to the ministering of angels. Those who worthily partake of the

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sacrament enjoy the companionship of the Spirit of the Lord and the ministering of angels.

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I'm sure that he bases that on, I remember that talk, he bases that upon what the keys of the

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Aaronic priesthood, who have the keys of administering the sacrament, and that they have the keys of

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the ministering of angels. So when the sacrament is passed, we not only are signifying that we

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desire to have the Holy Spirit to always be with us, but we also receive the blessing of the ministering

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of angels, which is also such sweet as part of my temple assignment, Scott, because I know that

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there are angels who come into those. I mentioned that in the live ceiling that there were others

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there from the other side of the veil who were interested in this ordinance and who were participating

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in it, observing it. On page 269, continuing, as we partake of the sacrament, we reflect on our

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own personal needs and concerns, because it is broken and torn. President Dallin H. Oakes explains,

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each piece of bread is unique, just as the individuals who partake of it are unique.

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We all have different sins to repent of. We all have different needs to be strengthened

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through the Atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ, whom we remember. I think that's one of the

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powerful symbols that individuals can focus on as they partake of that little piece of bread.

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They could focus on the torn, how it's been torn, the uneven. It's not perfectly symmetrical.

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It's broken. It's been broken. We're all broken, in a sense, Scott, when we sin.

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To partake of that little piece of bread, they should think about that important symbol and how

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Jesus allowed himself to be broken and torn and his heart ruptured, all of that for the pains and

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sicknesses and sins of his people. So there are just so many symbols in the sacrament.

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I don't know that there's anything more important than we can be discussing than our experience

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of partaking of the sacrament. Here's why. We began this entire podcast with who we are and

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whose we are and our identity. We talked about gratitude as the beginning of desire.

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Eventually, as we learn more about the Atonement of Jesus Christ and how the effects of the Atonement

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of Jesus Christ in our lives take away the effects of the fall, the spiritual and the physical death.

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We all have things that as we approach the sacrament table each week, we all have things

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in our lives, regardless of our level of worthiness or unworthiness. We all have things in our lives

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that we need to have the Spirit of the Holy Ghost with us. And among them, probably top among them,

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is to retain that remission of our sins. When we talk about retaining a remission of sins,

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we are obviously talking about the whole purpose or one of the main purposes of putting on the

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Atonement of Jesus Christ so that we can have that. We've also talked about over the last

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several weeks the importance of having the Holy Ghost with us as a companion. Well, in a talk

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given in April of 2016 by Elder Bednar, where he talks about the name of the talk is always retain

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a remission of your sins. We have one of the most amazing Relief Society presidents in our

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ward. And a couple of weeks ago, she gave a talk in sacrament meeting about the sacrament,

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and she referenced this talk quite a bit. And I tell you, this is one time when I really felt

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the administration of the Holy Ghost, even as somebody was talking in sacrament meeting,

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is when she was talking about this, and I was talking to her about it afterwards,

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she happens to be my next door neighbor. So we have an opportunity to converse her husband and I

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are really close friends as well. And anyway, this is one of the things that he says to

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comprehend in referencing the talk from Elder Bednar always retain a remission of your sins

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from April 2016. And this is under the heading obtaining and retaining a remission of sins

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through ordinances to comprehend. This is what he says to comprehend more fully the process

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whereby we may obtain and always retain a remission of our sins. We need first to understand the

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inseparable relationship among three sacred ordinances that provide access to the powers

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of heaven. Those powers of heaven specifically are the effects of the Atonement of Jesus Christ

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in our lives. And they are this baptism by immersion, the lane on of hands for the gift of

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the Holy Ghost, and the sacrament. He puts that right there with the baptism by immersion and

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the lane on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost. He puts that right next to those for

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taking of the sacrament in in some of the most important to more fully he says again to more

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fully comprehend the process whereby we may obtain and always retain a remission of our sins

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is to first understand the inseparable relationship among these three ordinances.

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So they're important, you know, and this is a time when we don't necessarily as we

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partake of the sacrament do that to receive a remission of our sins. We receive the remission

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of our sins as we're putting on the Atonement of Jesus Christ on an everyday effort by effort

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minute by minute approach. But this is where we can receive a deeper remission. And definitely

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this is where the retention or that retaining power is in our lives. And again, of what of

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having his spirit to always be with us as we take his name upon us.

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It's really significant that the first thing Jesus wanted to do

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when he appeared to the people in the Americas in 35 chapter 11. And then he teaches them in

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12 13 and 14. And then in 15 was he, you know, 16 17 18 19. The very first things he wants to

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accomplish Scott is to make sure the people are baptized, that they receive the Holy Ghost,

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and they partake of the Holy Sacrament. And in speaking of the sacrament in 3rd Nephi chapter

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18, he talks about he compares it to a rock. And I just want to maybe in chapter 18, Scott,

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30 if I 18, I just want to read a few verses here. He's talking about partaking of the bread,

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break and break the bread and blessed it. And he had taken the water and blessed it. And this

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shall ye always observe to do this is verse six, even as I have done, even as I have broken bread,

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it's got to be broken. It's got I think maybe even crackers for whatever. But when people,

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it should be broken. It probably shouldn't be a whole wafer. It probably should be a broken wafer.

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I don't know that that's a handbook item, that that's official. But I think the broken part of

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this is really important. I think leaders in in ward councils should talk about this. Shouldn't

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just be a little wafer given for somebody who is what are the needs gluten intolerant. Yeah,

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yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. But that it should be a broken crack, right? Yeah, or it should be a

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broken wafer. Yeah, or whatever it is, it should be broken. Yeah. I think that's really important.

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He said it even as I have broken bread and blessed it and given unto you. And this she shall do in

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remembrance of my body, which I have shown unto you. Because then it was right. It had been broken.

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Which I have shown unto you and it shall be a testimony unto the Father that ye do always

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remember me. And if you do always remember me, ye shall have my spirit to be with you.

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Notice the connection there. If you remember me, I'll remember you. You will always have his spirit.

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And then he goes on and he says over in verse 11, and this she shall always do to those who

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repent and are baptized in my name. And ye shall do it in remembrance of my blood,

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which I have shed for you, that ye may witness unto the Father that ye do always remember me.

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And if ye do always remember me, ye shall have my spirit to be with you.

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He repeats that. Now that would seem pretty significant to me. If you're there in the

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Savior repeats the same thing twice. And that it's recorded here in the Nephite record.

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And then verse 12, this is always impressed me, Scott. I give unto you a commandment,

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that ye shall do these things. And if ye shall always do these things, blessed are ye, for ye

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are built upon my rock. You know, a lot of favorite to a lot of people have is a favorite

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scripture, Helaman 512, right? Or is it, I'm sorry? No, it's 512. I just turned to it.

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Yeah, okay. Yeah. About the rock, right? That you're built upon my rock. Yep. Well,

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how are we built upon the rock? By partaking of his sacrament, by receiving the tokens of his

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atoning sacrifice. Again, he says, if ye always do these things, partake of the sacrament,

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blessed are ye, for ye are built upon my rock. So I don't know, everybody should cross reference.

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Helaman 512 with the third Nephi 1812. That's the rock, Scott. If we want to build upon the

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rock of Jesus Christ, we need to be partaking of the holy sacrament weekly. And if we will always

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strive to remember him, we will always have his spirit to be with us. I don't know the process,

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maybe we can talk about the actual sacrament experience for just a minute for folks. But

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when I partake of the sacrament, and I think we should all try to arrive early, I know that's

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not easy or always possible, especially for those who have small children,

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or sometimes even harder with teenagers. But we should try to go early. We shouldn't be rushed.

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We should go with a repentant heart, broken heart, contrite spirit, Scott. We should try to repent

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before we go to this meeting. We should maybe kneel down in the morning before sacrament meeting

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on the Sabbath, and we should review our week with the Lord and ask for his forgiveness.

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And so we go repenting. And then we participate with all our heart and mind as we sing the

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hymn. And we think about Jesus singing a hymn, right, before he went to Gethsemane. And then we

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listen to the words of the prayer. We recite those words in our mind. Maybe we even try to

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memorize those words that are in the scriptures. And then as maybe even before the priests uncover

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the sacred linen, we look at that table and the linen, and we think about Jesus' body being covered

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by linen. We look at that sacrament table, and if you look at it, you could almost picture someone

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laying underneath that linen. And we think of that sacred experience. I think about that.

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And then as soon as they finish the prayer on the bread and begin to pass it, I begin to pray in

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however manner I can pray. That may be with my eyes closed or my eyes open. But I begin with a prayer

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in my heart to try to remember our Savior. When the bread is broken, I think I got this idea from

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Elder Holland again that I think about his physical suffering. I think about his body, his torn flesh

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and the nails and all of that. And I ponder that. And then after they finish passing the bread and

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they bless the water and they pass the water, I think of his blood. And I think of Gethsemane

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bleeding from every pore and the effects of Gethsemane and the suffering of Gethsemane

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reoccurring on the cross at 12 noon to 3 p.m. And I just think of his spiritual death, suffering

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and turmoil that he suffered in Gethsemane and especially on the cross. And all of that time

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Scott, I'm praying. And then I like to think about the covenants I've made. I like to think about my

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eternal marriage. I like to think about the personal covenants. I like to kind of review those,

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my baptism and the Alpine Tabernacle and all that experience I had. And the first time I went to

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the temple and some of the symbolism of the temple may go through my mind. And often Scott,

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I think of something that J Jensen, Elder J Jensen told me when he partakes of the sacrament,

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he said that he would always recite a verse of Scripture found in Dr. and Covenants section 110.

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And I've I've tried to adopt this as a practice in my life. Whenever he partakes of the sacrament,

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he recites the Scripture to himself. This is section 110 verse five. Behold. And this is the

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voice of the Lord. This is Jesus speaking to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery in the Kirtland

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Temple. Behold, your sins are forgiven you. You are clean before me. Therefore, lift up your heads

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and rejoice. I really recommend that to our listeners to maybe just memorize those few lines.

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And every time they take the sacrament to recite it and hear the voice of the Lord when they when

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they recited it in their mind that you are clean before me. Right. Rejoice. Lift up your head and

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rejoice. The sacrament should be a time of of great repenting and great rejoicing. Scott.

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Yeah, I when we did this episode or whatever in last season, you brought that up about what Elder

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Jensen, Dr. and Covenants 110 five. And ever since then, I don't know that I've missed a Sunday,

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when that is actually has been part of my sacrament experience, for sure. In addition to that,

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there's a couple of things to I love everything. What difference does that make when you do it?

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It reminds me. It helps me to remember. And then during the week when the accuser gets loud,

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I can remember, go back to that experience and remember that I can lift my head up. My sins

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have been forgiven. Yeah. And and and I get to feel the administration of the Holy Ghost to remind

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me of that because that's also the promise that is given to me that his spirit will always,

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always be with me. Dave, that's become so important to me and and to Deb that we begin our sacrament

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pro preparation Saturday night. Awesome. We kneel together. And each Saturday night, we pray

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that Heavenly Father spirit will begin to prepare us even in our sleep. Yeah. For the

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preparation for the partaking of the sacrament the next day. And as we do so, to help us to

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remember the importance of the covenants that we have made to remember the importance of the

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saving ordinance is how they bind us, not just to him, but how they bind him to us as well.

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Yeah, important. So important. The covenant. So important. And that's the whole purpose

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behind the partaking of the sacrament is the renewal of our covenants. Yeah. And and and then

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as I do that, I love I look over often. Deb sits to my left. She's the primary president so soon

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as before the closing prayer, she's got to go get the primary room ready. So she sits by the aisle.

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I think that's maybe an effort to keep me in my seat throughout as well. But

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I'll look over at her often to my left during the sacrament and she always does this. She always has

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the hymn book. She's very musical as you well know. Right. She always has the hymn book and she'll

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be reading sacramental hymns or hymns that are important to it. And it's not uncommon that I'll

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see a little tear grip down her face. You know, she's communing. And I and I've learned also to

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gain gain a lot of comfort from doing that. There's a few hymns that

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for sure. They just absolutely take me to that spot. You know, one of the ones that have become

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really important to me as of late is as now we take the sacrament. I never thought that's a

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as a wonderful hymn, but I never really paid that close of attention. You know, they I know that my

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Redeemer lives and that there's a few that have been very popular and been very important to me.

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And I don't be their popularity does not diminish their importance. You know, I'm not saying that

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at all. But there's just this one verse as verse three of as now we take the sacrament and I'll try

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to say it without incorporating the tune. But as now we praise thy name was song the blessings

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of this day, you know, think of the blessings of this day, the blessings of this day, the blessings

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of this day will linger in our thankful hearts and silently we pray for courage to accept thy will.

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And it does sometimes require courage to accept his will. You know, and I love that we're

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acknowledging that here for courage to accept thy will to listen and obey. We love thee, Lord,

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our hearts are full. And then we make a promise will walk thy chosen way. Yeah, that that is just

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so it is that a powerful experience for a powerful, quiet, peaceful experience for me every Sunday,

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if I will do that. And I've been pretty good at it. Yeah, I mean, I'm not perfect at it. But there

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are but but there are more Sundays than not more sacramental experiences in my life over the last

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several years, more than not that I have literally felt the redeeming love of my Savior as I've prepared

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for and partaken the sacrament. But I think that preparation, David, is extremely important. You

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know, you talk about going early, we have a lot of people I have a sister in our word sister,

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Ridge sits on the back row the minute I walk in and I get there 15 minutes early, I feel like I

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want to to go around and shake people's hands in my quorum and you know, welcome and and fellowship

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and sister Ridge there every week before I am and she's quiet and it's quiet for her. It's

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time for preparation if we'll all accept that that attitude of preparation or experience will

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be enhanced greatly. Well, all of these things got covenants ordinances should give us a greater

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sense of peace, security and confidence in our relationship with our Heavenly Father

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with Jesus Christ and with the Holy Ghost. I mean, that's that's really the purpose of

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covenants and ordinances and it has been the pattern since Adam and Eve. There was an altar,

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they nailed it the altar, then they made covenants and it was to it was to assure them.

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It you know, so many times we think of of covenants as a burden. Covenants are not a burden.

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Covenants are a blessing. They they connect us to God and he and he will not break his word.

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Oh, unless we just totally leave him and walk away and go after other gods and love others

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more than we love him. A covenant is something that all of us can really hold on to and it

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should give us such a peace of mind knowing that we are in a covenantal familial relationship with

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God. We all know that we're sons and daughters of God, spirit sons and daughters of God that we were

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created as sons and daughters as spirits before we were ever born that that through the creation

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of Adam and Eve that we become his sons and daughters in a physical sense really. But

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when it's all said and done, Scott, after the resurrection in the final judgment,

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the sons and daughters or the children of God will be the ones who have made and kept covenants

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with him. And everything about a covenant is to have a sweeter relationship with God to receive

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a special endowment of grace, mercy, of peace, of joy, than to be able to in the end enter into his

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rest. That's what covenants are all about. So I hope that all of us can appreciate more

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the restored gospel of Jesus Christ, the ordinances and the covenants have been restored. You know,

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one of the first things Jesus said to the prophet Joseph Smith in the sacred grove is

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they've broken my ordinances. They haven't kept the ordinances. The new and everlasting covenant,

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Scott, I testify has been restored new and everlasting. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob,

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those all those blessings have been restored. And we made covenants before we came to this life

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in the premoral existence. I know we made covenants and that we understood there that that

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would be the pattern here. And it will continue to be so that we are going to be in a covenant

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relationship with God, new and everlasting forever and ever. And I'm grateful for that knowledge.

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Great day. I love this topic. I love what it provides and the opportunity to fill of our

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Heavenly Father's love to be cleansed, to be purified, to be justified and to more fully put

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on the Atonement of Jesus Christ as we participate in these most holy, sacred ordinances and renewing

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our covenants and considering the importance of all of those. Thanks for being with us this week.

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Remember that you can reach out to us via email at redeemed. No, he redeems us at gmail.com. That's

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he redeems us at gmail.com. Thanks for being with us, everybody. We look forward to being with you

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again next week. Until then, be well.

