1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:18,600 Hey there everybody, welcome back. 2 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,840 It's time for another podcast of Redeemed Through His Blood. 4 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,760 How are you, Dave? 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,760 I'm good, Scott. 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:28,760 Good. 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:29,760 I'm good. 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,380 How are you doing? 9 00:00:33,380 --> 00:00:37,440 Life, the foibles of life, Scott. 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,640 Yesterday I picked up my car from getting a windshield replaced. 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,800 Right? 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,880 And these new cars, they have to be calibrated. 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,880 Oh yeah. 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,720 I don't know, it's like a thousand dollars. 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,760 Uh, anyway. 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:01:02,920 I get the windshield replaced, picked the car up at 9am, I'm coming home from Salt Lake, 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,680 little date my wife and I went on yesterday afternoon. 18 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,720 It's about four or five o'clock. 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,840 And I hear this ping. 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,080 On the windshield. 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,480 And a big crack in the windshield. 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,720 Oh my goodness. 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,720 I'm sorry. 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,920 You just had a string of bad luck. 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,000 Last week you had the bad luck of finding out the fruit loops. 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,000 That's a fruit loops. 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Yeah. 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Which still crushes me. 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,200 I almost bought you a box of those yesterday when I set the garage. 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Can you believe that, Scott? 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,600 I had that car like six hours, six or seven hours. 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:40,600 And now you have it. 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,720 With a crack free windshield. 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,520 And now it's got another crack in it. 35 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,760 So my question is this, if it's a thousand dollars, how come they can't come up with 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,920 a crack, a windshield that won't crack? 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:52,920 I don't know. 38 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:58,440 I actually went back to the place this morning early because I thought, I just need them to 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,440 know. 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:00,440 I don't know. 41 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,440 I need some reassurance. 42 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,600 Is there maybe a 24 hour guarantee? 43 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,600 Yeah. 44 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:06,600 Yeah. 45 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,600 Is there something they can do about cracks? 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,960 I mean, it's not clear across the windshield. 47 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,960 Not yet. 48 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:11,960 Not yet. 49 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,200 Well, it's about two feet long. 50 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,440 And it's going to be right. 51 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,640 It's going to be. 52 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:19,440 So I wanted to know, is there something they can do? 53 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Is there something? 54 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,160 Anyway, they could not believe it. 55 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:28,440 They just said, oh, you know, anyway, they were colorful in their language. 56 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,760 They couldn't believe it. 57 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,800 And I just said, well, are the windshields are good, right? 58 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,720 I mean, it's just a little ping and I got there. 59 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:42,880 Anyway, the foibles and they, I was, I was kind of saying, can you believe that you guys? 60 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,280 And they said, oh man, if I was you, I'd be so mad. 61 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,320 And I said, well, you know, what can I do about it? 62 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,280 I don't have any control over this and stay off the freeway. 63 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,640 And I said, yeah, like I'm going to stay out the freeway. 64 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:59,480 Life is isn't that interesting really? 65 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:00,480 Life is. 66 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:01,480 Yeah. 67 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:08,920 I mean, really in the, I know that's a small thing in the overall scheme of things, but 68 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:13,240 I was just thinking, wow, what is up with that? 69 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,240 That's crazy. 70 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,240 I'm kind of dumbfounded. 71 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,320 I don't even know what to say to that. 72 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,320 I do need to. 73 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,320 That's just bad luck. 74 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:20,320 Yeah. 75 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,520 Well, actually, the windshield that I replaced had been actually broken by a rather large 76 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,640 rock up in the corner of it. 77 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:32,800 And we had, we had kind of just intentionally, let's see how far we can go with this. 78 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,320 And we didn't get replaced for like months. 79 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,320 Yeah. 80 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,160 I mean, I lived with that for months. 81 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,840 You should have gone another month, buddy. 82 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,960 I should have gone one more month, one more day. 83 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:44,960 That's all it would have taken. 84 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:50,160 I mean, the first thought went through my mind, why did I get it replaced the day? 85 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Or actually they'd replaced it the day before, but I picked it up that morning. 86 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Right. 87 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:01,720 Anyway, so life, the turns and foibles of life. 88 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:02,720 Unbelievable. 89 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,760 So I hope that our listeners are doing well. 90 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:06,760 I hope you're doing well. 91 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:07,760 Yeah, we are. 92 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:08,760 We're doing well. 93 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,360 Devin, I celebrated a wedding anniversary yesterday. 94 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,760 It was amazing. 95 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:13,760 Nice. 96 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,280 Yeah, we have had, you know, we've only been married 21 years. 97 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:20,800 I say it like it's less than two decades. 98 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:21,800 It's 21 years. 99 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,600 I mean, and that's kind of a big deal, you know, but that's not very long for our old 100 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,600 year. 101 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,360 That's exactly what I was going to say. 102 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,360 And I knew you would. 103 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,360 Yeah. 104 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,360 Yeah. 105 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,360 Sorry. 106 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,360 You had to do it. 107 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,360 No, yeah, you did. 108 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,000 But you know, it's been 21 years of, you know, it's really amazing when you're married. 109 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,640 You've had this experience, your entire marriage. 110 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:45,000 You know, I didn't have this experience in the beginning of my experiences of being married. 111 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Okay. 112 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Yeah. 113 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,000 But it's just amazing. 114 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,760 And you know, and I know that Deb feels the same way. 115 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:56,280 It's just when you're married to the right person and you have the same goals and outlook 116 00:04:56,280 --> 00:05:03,960 on life and the same spiritual quest and the same desire to kneel each night and pray and 117 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,120 to attend the temple. 118 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,120 It's just amazing. 119 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,120 The difference. 120 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,120 It's not easy. 121 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,920 No, we have, we're not, we're not problem free. 122 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,680 And it may not be every night that you both want to kneel down, but no, but you, you try 123 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,400 to and you probably do. 124 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,920 And maybe some nights you don't, but, but it's not easy. 125 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,440 But really, I know what you're saying, Scott. 126 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:31,360 There is something about that, that you have this certain security and confidence in life 127 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:40,440 and in your eternal quest and future and purpose that you just, it just, it's really sweet. 128 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,440 Yeah. 129 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,440 There's just nothing like it. 130 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,600 And we both have just enjoyed the last 21 years. 131 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,400 We look forward to the next 21 years. 132 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,400 21 years. 133 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:52,400 Yeah, I'll still be here maybe. 134 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:58,840 I wish everyone could, could understand that when it comes to marriage and relationships 135 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:09,800 in, within marriage, that the highest, highest, holiest level of intimacy is spiritual. 136 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,120 It's spiritual. 137 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,080 It's not physical. 138 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,160 If you, you know, it's a spiritual connection. 139 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,160 Yeah. 140 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:25,600 That you have this, you know, the peace that's beyond understanding that you have when you're 141 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:34,920 with one another and when you can share spiritual experiences with one another, spiritual insights, 142 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,680 personal revelation, and you know that it's going to be sacred to your spouse, to your 143 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,720 partner and that you can share those things and talk about those things freely. 144 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,720 Wow. 145 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:51,400 That, that is so binding and sacred in a relationship. 146 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,400 It's quite a gift. 147 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,400 There's no question. 148 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,760 And it, and it kind of baffles me, you know, and maybe it's because of my perspective, 149 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,760 but it kind of baffles me that actually it is because of my experience, because I didn't 150 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,760 take it too serious, you know, in the beginning, when I, in my first marriage, I've been married 151 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,040 more than twice. 152 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,800 And so in my first marriages, I didn't. 153 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,240 Well, that would be three times. 154 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,960 Well, we can continue this conversation from here. 155 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:15,960 Okay. 156 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,960 But. 157 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,400 You can cut that. 158 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,400 Yeah. 159 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,400 I think I probably will. 160 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:30,400 But I, but, but you know, to have, to just have that togetherness, you know, and to know 161 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:36,760 that, you know, if I need help, if I need support, like you said, that spiritual intimacy, 162 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,280 and so often in that spiritual intimacy, there's not even a lot of words that need to be spoken 163 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,280 sometimes. 164 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,280 Yeah. 165 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:44,280 You know, right. 166 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,520 When we sit in the temple in the, in the, in the celestial room of the temple and we 167 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,840 just hold hands, there's a communication or a communion that's not just between me 168 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,840 and her. 169 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Yeah. 170 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,920 That's between me and her and Heavenly Father. 171 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,920 Yeah. 172 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,680 Through the spirit of the Holy Ghost. 173 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,880 I tell you, you know, there's just that there's just no gift this greater than that gift to 174 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,880 me so far. 175 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:04,880 Yeah. 176 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,000 I, I, I agree, Scott. 177 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:15,200 I pray that our family members and listeners and others can, and you know, if they're not 178 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:20,440 in the habit or they haven't had those experience, those spiritual intimate moments where they 179 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,360 can have gospel discussion. 180 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,360 Yeah. 181 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Sometimes if that doesn't come naturally, then they need, they need to kind of program 182 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,920 it until it becomes natural. 183 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:38,600 I think it would be awesome if, if families and couples would just, especially couples 184 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:44,040 and, and families, but, but don't leave if you have a family discussion about come follow 185 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,040 me. 186 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:50,000 I don't think I should replace a couple's experience discussing come follow me. 187 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:56,720 And the way my wife and I love to do come follow me is that when she reads it and she, 188 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:02,360 she loves to do it just personally, individually on her own and she goes through it and she, 189 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,840 she, she does, puts in the effort and she answers some of the questions and goes through 190 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,080 the book. 191 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,160 Then we discuss it. 192 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,160 I just think couples need to be having that discussion. 193 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:22,720 You know, they need to be counseling together in love about the, the holy scriptures and 194 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,480 about the teachings of the prophets. 195 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:30,200 And when they, when they do that, that, as that becomes more and more of a habit and 196 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,960 more natural with them, their relationships will become so much sweeter. 197 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:35,960 Yeah. 198 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,200 There's stronger. 199 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,520 I agree with that. 200 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:45,800 And as, as we do that, it's interesting how so many answers to our questions and our problems 201 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:53,440 that I have alone have been able to not get a handle on or get a grip on or, or get answers 202 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,440 to. 203 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,800 But when we have these conversations and then we have the spirit flowing through both of 204 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,280 us in that, in our covenantal relationship, we have a covenantal relationship with each 205 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,640 other too. 206 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,760 You know, that's bound, that's bound together by the Holy Spirit of the promise. 207 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,040 I think we're going to be talking about that a little later in our episode today. 208 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:15,280 But you know, as that happens in, as we have that spirit, it's just amazing how, you know, 209 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,240 one plus one does not equal two in this case. 210 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,440 You know, it's exponentially greater than that with, and this is important. 211 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,920 This is the key with the, with the companionship of the spirit. 212 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:28,920 Right. 213 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:29,920 Yeah. 214 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,800 Well, and I think it really creates trust. 215 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:39,680 And I, I don't know of anything, any attribute that is more important in a relationship than, 216 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:41,640 than trust. 217 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:47,920 And according to some studies that have been done, the most important attributes in a relationship 218 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:53,080 are acceptance, unconditional love and trust. 219 00:10:53,080 --> 00:11:00,600 Those, those three attributes in a relationship, according to surveys in, I'm talking about, 220 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:06,080 not just in the church, I'm just secular, secular surveys and studies that have been 221 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:14,600 done, unconditional acceptance, love and trust are so critical, maybe the most important 222 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:24,640 issues and attributes in a relationship and having intimate spiritual discussion and drawing 223 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:32,120 closer to the Holy Ghost and to the Savior, to our Heavenly Father builds all three of 224 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,120 those. 225 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,600 Acceptance, unconditional love and trust and you know, you know why I think those things 226 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:38,760 are so important. 227 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,280 I believe that those things are so important because, because those three things, what 228 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,880 they do is they provide a sense of safety. 229 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,280 Yeah, right. 230 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,760 That safety, you know, that they provide a sense of safety in your relationship. 231 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,720 And when we feel safe, that's right, Scott. 232 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,880 You know, there's just very, and that doesn't mean we don't weather storms. 233 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:00,880 We do. 234 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,880 Right. 235 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,680 We do have those storms right now and some of those have to do with kids and grandkids 236 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:09,560 and other things like that, you know, and, and as we weather those storms with those 237 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:13,320 three things, like you said, acceptance of each other, unconditional love towards each 238 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:18,440 other and total trust in each other and to build that trust by continuing to do the things 239 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:19,800 that build that trust. 240 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,680 Then I feel safe and so does she. 241 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:22,680 Right. 242 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:23,680 Yeah. 243 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:28,440 And, and safety is really so important in a relationship because when you go through 244 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:34,280 those storms, if you don't feel safe, that's, that's when the cracks develop and people 245 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,440 run and, and you make crazy decisions or yeah. 246 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,480 I mean, we've been through some really tense moments you have to with your family. 247 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:48,680 I've been through some really intense moments, sending a son to prison and, and things like 248 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:49,680 that. 249 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:56,920 And, you know, so many times driving down the road, you know, maybe, maybe crying and 250 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:06,160 uh, you know, speaking through our pain together, it comes down to well, as long as we've got 251 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,160 each other. 252 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,160 Right. 253 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,000 And that as long as we got each other, we can, we can do this. 254 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,880 And there's just nothing more beautiful than that. 255 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,320 All of this stuff really comes down to a relationship. 256 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,960 And, and we talked from the very beginning of the podcast, David, how important relationships 257 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:29,520 are and the last, the last month actually or so, one of those relationships we've been 258 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:35,080 focusing on is our, is our relationship with the Holy Ghost. 259 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,600 And you know, we talked to last week is kind of a culmination. 260 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,760 The first two, two weeks prior to that, we talked about the Holy Ghost. 261 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,960 Last week we talked about the Holy Ghost in, in that, you know, we talked about the importance 262 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,000 of personal revelation and having revelation in our lives. 263 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,400 We talked about a few steps that you gave us of seven. 264 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:58,040 Seven keys, seven keys, not steps, personal revelation. 265 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:04,400 And I think today as we continue that conversation is in knowing that and keeping in mind that 266 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,600 what we're really doing here is talking about developing a relationship. 267 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:14,280 And you know, as important as that relationship of safety is in our relationships with our 268 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:20,200 spouses and partners and families and others, as important as that safety is, that safety 269 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:26,360 is even more important and can become even more pronounced for us as we develop that 270 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,200 relationship through the spirit with our Heavenly Father. 271 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,080 And that's how this whole revelation process begins to work in our lives. 272 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,480 Yeah, correct. 273 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:42,080 Well these seven keys, Scott, help open the door of revelation. 274 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,680 And just to review them quickly, we did four, I think last week. 275 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:46,680 We did, yeah. 276 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:52,120 We did fear and other negative emotions and replace them with faith and love. 277 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,120 Right? 278 00:14:53,120 --> 00:15:00,240 That's number one, is we can't let emotions govern our choices and our decisions. 279 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:09,120 We need to, we need to really, I just can't believe how many years, Scott, I was not able 280 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:14,480 to identify even my emotions and what I was feeling personally. 281 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Well, if you don't know what your own emotions are, you can't tell the difference between 282 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,480 your emotions and the Holy Ghost. 283 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,680 You don't know when you're feeling the Holy Ghost. 284 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:33,000 If you don't even know what you're feeling, I mean, we have to become more mindful and 285 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:40,200 sensitive to identifying our own personal emotions and not let our personal emotions 286 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:46,200 get in the way of the revelations that the Lord wants to give us through the gift of 287 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,600 the Holy Ghost. 288 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,520 So that's number one. 289 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:56,880 Number two is to remove the pavilions of selfishness and inappropriate motives and prideful desires 290 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,120 by replacing them with not my will, but thine be done. 291 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:07,920 So we have to go just totally open, remove any pavilions of selfishness and inappropriate 292 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:08,920 motives. 293 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:09,920 What's our motive? 294 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,120 Why do I want an answer? 295 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,160 What do I desire? 296 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,800 What are my desires? 297 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:22,680 And then to lay those aside for a moment, really, and not be driven by the natural man 298 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,000 and selfish motives that we all have. 299 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:33,920 And to go to the Father in the name of Christ and to ask what's thy will. 300 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,800 You know, not my will, but thine be done, following the example of the Savior in the 301 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:38,800 Garden of Gethsemane. 302 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:44,280 Well, and when we do that, you know, we talk about this whole process, this whole podcast 303 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,160 has been a repentance kind of experience for us, right? 304 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,480 We're learning the Atonement of Jesus Christ. 305 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,720 We're learning how to access the Atonement of Jesus Christ through repentance. 306 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:58,520 And we know that repentance boils down to a broken heart and a contrite spirit. 307 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,160 Elder Anderson makes it quite clear in the book that we talk about here that when we 308 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,200 talk about that contrite spirit, that's what you're talking about. 309 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,200 Thy will be done. 310 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,800 Yeah, that's right, Scott. 311 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:14,400 And by the way, the greatest revelation that I know one can ever receive in this life is 312 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,720 thy sins are forgiven thee. 313 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,720 Oh, wow. 314 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:18,720 Yeah. 315 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:26,120 The greatest revelation one should seek is to know where they stand with God and to know 316 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:29,520 that their sins are forgiven. 317 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,200 Now I know that can be a process. 318 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:39,680 I know that that may take time, but I also know, Scott, that it can be an event and that 319 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:44,880 people are entitled to know where they stand with God and that they can know that they 320 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,640 are forgiven and in good standing. 321 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:55,200 So I think we should all seek for that knowledge and that gift of revelation. 322 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:00,560 Our third one, Scott, was to increase purity and confidence in the presence of God by letting 323 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,680 virtue govern our thoughts unceasingly. 324 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:13,560 You know, DNC, Doctrine and Covenants section 121 verses 45 and 46 are the Keith principles 325 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,040 here. 326 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:21,200 And I think I mentioned last time you better watch what you view because what you watch 327 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,680 will become your view. 328 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:28,040 So just really controlling, you know, what we what we spend our time engaged in what 329 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:33,320 we're watching what we're listening to those those kinds of things we anything we can do 330 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:41,920 to increase personal purity and virtue in our life will help us to better identify the 331 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,000 gift of the Holy Ghost in our life. 332 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,520 It's interesting how Satan can just slowly lull us away. 333 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,640 Just little tiny things at that's not harmful. 334 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,640 No big deal. 335 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,280 You know, this just a little what what they say no big deal is they're just words. 336 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,920 You know, the allurement. 337 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:07,960 Yeah, the allurement of Satan and the sophistries and I don't know, Scott, it's it really the 338 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:14,160 world that we live in in the natural man within all of us is a dangerous combination. 339 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,160 Yeah. 340 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,320 And we just have to be super careful because it can happen before we know it. 341 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,320 I know. 342 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:24,320 So increasing personal purity is an important part. 343 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,120 And then the fourth one that we discussed some length last time was using instruments 344 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:37,800 of grace, such as the scriptures, prayer, sacred art and music, ordinances, covenants, 345 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,880 fasting, magnifying, calling service, temple service. 346 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,120 Yeah, right. 347 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:48,040 Using those instruments of grace, temple being one of them, of course, even going touching 348 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:53,440 the temple being in the on the property in the parking lot, even I whatever. 349 00:19:53,440 --> 00:20:02,280 There are so many instruments of grace that God has mercifully provided for us to be able 350 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,960 to receive and feel his spirit. 351 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:11,880 So let me just take a second here to we talked about how Elder Eyring in the dedicatory prayer 352 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:17,400 of the Saratoga Springs Temple recently talked about how even the grounds would be a place 353 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,400 of refuge. 354 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,880 And I think that's not probably the first time that's been mentioned in a dedicatory 355 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,880 prayer for a temple. 356 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,240 And I mentioned to you how that when the Tempanogis Temple was being built, how I used that. 357 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:34,760 Well, what I didn't remember is that every once in a while, Deb, believe it or not, Deb 358 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,800 and I will have a conflict. 359 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,400 And sometimes when I know, right, you know my person. 360 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:46,160 I remember President Nelson saying, Scott, sister, this is his wife, Dancel, his first 361 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,160 wife that passed. 362 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,160 Yeah. 363 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:55,640 And Dancel and I have never have never had a fight, but we have had some marvelous disagreements. 364 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,160 Well, I remember sister Hinckley was interviewed. 365 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,720 What time they said, Have you ever? 366 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,720 Have you ever thought about? 367 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:06,720 I don't know. 368 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,600 It was something about negative towards President Hinckley. 369 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,760 And she and she said, Oh, divorce never murder, maybe, but divorce never. 370 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,140 But anyway, so every once in a while, this is this has happened more than once. 371 00:21:18,140 --> 00:21:21,160 And when I get to that point, there's just comes a point where it's just better if I 372 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,920 just walk away, get calm down, hurt to. 373 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,920 And so I'll go get on. 374 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,640 Conflict, not escalator. 375 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,840 There's nothing wrong with conflict. 376 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,440 It's when contention enters the conflict that we have problem. 377 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,800 And that's true for all of us, because the contention is the tool of the devil, not conflict. 378 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Conflict can be actually healthy. 379 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,800 It's created. 380 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,320 It helps you solve problems. 381 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,320 Yeah. 382 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,640 But contention, spirit's gone is always of the devil. 383 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,160 And so every once in a while, I'll get on my motorcycle and I'll ride to the temple, 384 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,000 the Provo temple, which isn't far from us. 385 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,120 And I'll just sit there, no matter what time of day. 386 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:54,200 It's usually quite late at night. 387 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,480 And it's happened more than once that I'll look over and I'll see Deb's little white 388 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,480 car too. 389 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:08,000 And then we'll, you know, go sit on the grass and, you know, but that really has been also 390 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,360 an instrument of grace in our lives too. 391 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:11,360 Wow. 392 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:15,800 And I've got maybe more people, I haven't done this, but maybe more people, including 393 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:22,320 myself, maybe we need to take some of our disagreements, marvelous disagreements to the 394 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,440 temple grounds and discuss them there. 395 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,440 Yeah. 396 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,640 And some, there's a great place at the home. 397 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:33,520 Although I know the home, the home should be as sacred or more sacred even in the temple. 398 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:40,840 But sometimes when you're, when the pressure's on there, yeah, sometimes going to the, even 399 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:47,600 the grounds of the house of the Lord can, can help to relieve some of that stress and 400 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,520 eliminate some contention. 401 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,520 Sweet. 402 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,520 Yeah. 403 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,520 Yeah. 404 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:53,520 Okay. 405 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,520 Well, instruments of grace. 406 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,240 So now we're on number, number five. 407 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:04,000 Scott and number five is to ask the right, what learn to ask the right questions, learn 408 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:11,440 what the difference between curiosity questions and inspired questions and ask for those things 409 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:17,280 that are expedient quotes around expedient because the heavenly Father has promised us 410 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:23,240 in 3rd Nephi that anything that we ask for that is expedient. 411 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:30,600 In another place he says anything that is for your good, you will receive if we ask. 412 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,400 So I think the word expedient is important. 413 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:41,320 It's best for us to be really open to that and to learn to ask those kinds of questions. 414 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:47,960 So a curiosity question might be if I was a single adult and I was trying to decide 415 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:53,360 who to marry or I was married and trying to make critical decisions instead of asking 416 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,760 what should I do? 417 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,960 Right? 418 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,520 That's kind of a curiosity question in a sense. 419 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,240 We should pay the price, study it out in our mind. 420 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,280 Dr. incumbent section nine, seven through nine, you said all you had to do was ask, but I 421 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:16,160 say you need to study it out in your mind and then ask me if it be right. 422 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,080 Ask the question, you know, instead of who should I marry? 423 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:28,560 Say heavenly Father, this is what I have decided and ask for a confirmation, not just 424 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,080 a general question. 425 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:41,680 I think when we use that process and we seek revelation by paying a price because again 426 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:48,000 the Lord doesn't give us anything that we can actually get on our own. 427 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,720 Scott, I mean, he expects us to become a spiritually self-reliant as possible. 428 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,320 And after we have paid the price, studied it out in our mind and I know the Spirit will 429 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,680 help us to study it out in our mind all along the way. 430 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,320 It should become pretty clear to us even maybe before we ask. 431 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:12,040 Now I know there are sometimes where we have no idea what to do and so we need to maybe 432 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,440 take him some options and discuss those options with him. 433 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:22,040 But just asking general questions instead of more specific. 434 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,040 This is what I have decided. 435 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,880 Here are my options. 436 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:33,480 What should I do is I think really important and then to know that if it's expedient, he 437 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,120 will answer. 438 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:36,120 He will say yes. 439 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:42,040 I loved the talk given by Elder Scott years ago that heavenly Father will answer our prayers 440 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,040 three ways. 441 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,840 He'll say yes, confirmation of the Holy Ghost. 442 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,760 He'll say no, super of thought, which is also an answer to the Holy Ghost. 443 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,560 I think super of thought has gotten a bad rap. 444 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:03,320 Super of thought is actually the Holy Ghost helping to take things away from our memory 445 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,080 and causing us to forget the very thing that we asked. 446 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,840 That's also I think a spiritual confirmation. 447 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,240 Or he will say wait. 448 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,200 Or he will say give me bring some more options. 449 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,120 Bring some more options to me. 450 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:20,200 Wait. 451 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:25,760 And so we have to patiently wait before we make a decision and not rush into it. 452 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,360 According to Elder Scott in a classic conference talk, and I'm sorry, I can't remember the 453 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:37,000 month or year, but I love that process as he describes it. 454 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:44,600 So I also learned Scott that there's a difference between asking for what I want and then asking 455 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:50,800 for heavenly Father to help me in my own personal responsibilities, for example, we've talked 456 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:56,600 about this before, but me praying for my son, that God changed my son, God changed my son, 457 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,840 please change my son. 458 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,440 For years I prayed for that Scott. 459 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,720 And then one day I was chastised by the Spirit. 460 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,600 You are praying for the wrong thing. 461 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,960 You don't need to pray for him. 462 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,320 You need to pray for you. 463 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,640 And then I knew what I had to pray for. 464 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:21,120 And that was help me to be a better father for my son. 465 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:25,920 Help me to know how I can be a better dad. 466 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:33,480 That changed my whole approach to parenting my son and it changed our relationship. 467 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:39,360 And I did receive answers to prayers because I had impressions about when to call him and 468 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:43,120 what to say because I had changed my prayer. 469 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:47,480 It was more focused on change me, not change him. 470 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:53,480 And that can be true of not only a relationship of father, son, father, child, parent, child, 471 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:59,040 but husband, wife or others that we have responsibility for or with. 472 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,840 So asking the right questions are really important. 473 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:08,200 Well, and sometimes, and I found this to be true, especially, probably not especially, 474 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:13,920 but even in the rooms of recovery, when we're praying for help, when we're praying for guidance, 475 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:19,600 when we're sometimes it's good for us to just say, just show me what I should be praying 476 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,600 for too. 477 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,360 What should I be looking at and looking for a spouse? 478 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:32,560 What should I be asking you about how to approach this situation? 479 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,400 And it's interesting how I've experimented with that. 480 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,640 I put that to experiment on multiple, multiple occasions. 481 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,720 And when I do that, how I feel how much more clarity I receive. 482 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,520 And with that, the confidence that I have as I move forward, because I feel like then 483 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:55,360 my questions, I have, I have prayed and asked to know what are the inspired questions I 484 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,360 should even be asked. 485 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,360 Yeah. 486 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,040 And it takes a more preparation. 487 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,040 It does. 488 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,320 Usually to ask the most inspired question or to ask for those things that are expedient 489 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:14,840 to God, I had a 70 once tell me that he would write down notes in a notebook, a journal before 490 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:21,960 he would pray with his questions and his questions were carefully pondered and prepared long 491 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,620 before he ever asked. 492 00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:30,000 And he found that to be the most effective way to receive revelation. 493 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,400 Sometimes it will come to us in our prayers. 494 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:37,080 And I've always loved the scripture in Dr. and Covenants section 46, which is on the 495 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,120 gifts of the spirit. 496 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,240 And this section ends in verse 30. 497 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:50,760 And it reads, he that asketh in the spirit, asketh according to the will of God, wherefore 498 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,360 it is done, even as he asketh. 499 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,920 And again, I say unto you, all things must be done in the name of Christ whatsoever. 500 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:06,760 Whatever you do in the spirit, and he must give thanks unto God in the spirit for whatsoever 501 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,840 blessing you are blessed with. 502 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,040 And he must practice. 503 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,920 Here it is against God virtue and holiness before me continually. 504 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,400 So there's some against some keys of revelation in that passage. 505 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:26,320 But one of them is that we should pray in the spirit that we should ask inspired spirit 506 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:35,600 prompted questions, not just curiosity questions, or not just, you know, flippantly without pondering 507 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,840 or preparing questions that what should I do? 508 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:46,400 And I sometimes that may be appropriate when we have no idea or no clue what we should 509 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,680 do. 510 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,760 But I just think it's really important that we pray in the spirit. 511 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:57,240 And when we do, we become like, right, like Nephi, right in Helaman chapter 10, verses 512 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:05,640 four and five, where a voice comes to the Nephi, this is Nephi the third, who's been 513 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,160 pondering. 514 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:13,360 And as he was pondering in his heart, behold, a voice came unto him saying, this is Helaman 515 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,440 10, verses four and five. 516 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,480 And I consider out now Nephi for those things which thou has done, for I have beheld how 517 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:29,600 thou hast with unwaringness declared the word which I've given unto the under this people, 518 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,360 and thou has not feared them. 519 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,880 There it is against God. 520 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,080 No fear. 521 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:43,160 And has not sought thine own life, but has sought my will and to keep my commandments. 522 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,160 Right. 523 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,120 And these are all keys to receiving revelation. 524 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:53,840 And now because thou has done this with such unwaringness, behold, I will bless thee forever 525 00:31:53,840 --> 00:32:00,400 and I will make thee mighty in word and indeed in faith and in works, even that all things 526 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,840 shall be done unto thee according to thy word. 527 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:13,240 Get this for thou shalt not ask that which is contrary to my will. 528 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:21,720 That's amazing that someone can pray and not ever ask anything that is contrary to the will 529 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,720 of God. 530 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:29,840 And when we get to that point, Scott, we become like Nephi who describes in the second Nephi 531 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,040 that he would not pray amiss. 532 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:42,280 He would not ask for anything that was amiss, which is amazing to be able to say that. 533 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:51,480 So we need to really prepare, I guess maybe that's part of the key here, number five, 534 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:59,120 is to make some preparation to learn what are the right questions, what are the inspired 535 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,000 questions that we need to ask. 536 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:09,600 Instead of too many times, Scott, we just write, we just every night we just routinely 537 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,520 hit our knees or every morning and we sometimes just say the same things. 538 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:21,200 If we really want revelation, it takes great preparation and work and even the help of 539 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,280 the Spirit to know what we should ask in the Spirit to be able to receive revelation by 540 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,200 the Spirit. 541 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,600 That's number five. 542 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:37,520 Number six, so important, eliminate distractions and distortions. 543 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,400 Do not be overcome over programmed by technology. 544 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,040 I just think too many, we've been warned about this. 545 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,880 Wow, the AI thing that's coming online. 546 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:50,880 What is that? 547 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,880 GPT and all that. 548 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,880 GPT. 549 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,200 It used to be Google. 550 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:05,480 Now it's AI and so many of us just turn almost automatically now to answers and direction 551 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:14,040 from technology instead of really pondering and trying to receive some spiritual guidance 552 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,680 and direction. 553 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:24,000 And I think it's just too easy for us to become just turn too quickly to our phones and other 554 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:31,920 sources of information that's out there, this age of information that we live in and get 555 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:39,560 too much information, which can really take away from our dependence and trust in receiving 556 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,720 answers to our prayers. 557 00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:48,760 I just opened my Google Chrome here on my laptop and it doesn't matter what you're typing 558 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,080 in anymore. 559 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,760 You will get a generative AI response. 560 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,760 Yeah. 561 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,760 Okay. 562 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,760 Right. 563 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,760 And here's a problem. 564 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:05,080 You know, we talk about and we saw the children of Israel do this when Moses came off of Mount 565 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,880 Sinai with the law. 566 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:13,240 They had taken things that were familiar to them and they had created this golden calf 567 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:18,120 and they had created a false God and were praying to it. 568 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,680 Well, I wonder, I don't think that we're that much different today. 569 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,480 I think that today, you know, we have this thing that we're familiar with and that we've 570 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:31,160 become to rely on and it has beautiful, wonderful application in our lives. 571 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,320 It has for the church. 572 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,640 It has for our families and for so many other things. 573 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:43,480 But I wonder if sometimes if we aren't creating this false God, if we aren't looking to Google, 574 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:49,320 if we aren't looking to chat GPT, if we aren't looking to some of these things now to give 575 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:55,440 us answers to our questions that we do need to be taken to our Heavenly Father, you know, 576 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,720 how do I become a better dad? 577 00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,920 I can Google that and I can get some great answers. 578 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:00,920 There's no question. 579 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,920 Right. 580 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,480 But if I don't rely on the Spirit to confirm the answers that I'm getting, how do I become 581 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,480 a better husband? 582 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,480 How do I become so many of those things? 583 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,240 So many questions and problems. 584 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:10,400 And we can get those answered. 585 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:18,040 You know, when I do this morning, I was on a television doing a spot on economics today 586 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,560 and I always go on first and I do that. 587 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,880 I Google what I'm going to talk about and I use a lot of what I get there. 588 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,360 But that's vastly different than my spiritual life. 589 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,760 If I'm looking for answers for my spiritual life, for the direction that I need, not just 590 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,360 for this life but for eternity, and some of us are. 591 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,560 And how do I know that? 592 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,640 Because we're seeing an exodus, even if it's a small one, of people who are doing that 593 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:45,800 and finding things that are in their minds wrong with the church or wrong with what's 594 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,320 happening here. 595 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,880 Because of that, it's kind of moving us away. 596 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,560 We're putting too much reliance on. 597 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,080 And I love how you put don't become over-programmed by technology. 598 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,680 I think we are, as a society, over-programmed by technology. 599 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,720 And in a lot of cases, that's really taken the place of our spiritual connection with 600 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,680 our Heavenly Father, David. 601 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,680 Technology is itself a miracle, Scott. 602 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,080 There's no doubt about that. 603 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,120 It's such a miracle and it's such a blessing. 604 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,800 But if you become over-programmed for it, and since we're talking about marriage and 605 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,280 relationships a little bit today, and you have a problem in your marriage, I'm telling 606 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,040 you the first thing to turn to is not Google. 607 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,320 That's right. 608 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,760 And look up for marriage advice. 609 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,680 That is not the place to turn. 610 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:44,680 The place to turn is to fall on your knees and to ponder and pray about how can I change? 611 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,440 How can I improve? 612 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,440 How can I... 613 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:54,720 I mean, Scott, that's what we should not be looking for the easy answers or the easy way 614 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,520 out using technology. 615 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:03,080 I've been so blessed by technology in so many ways. 616 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,760 All of us have. 617 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:12,680 But when we become over-programmed, then the first thing we turn to to fix our problems, 618 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:19,920 and some of them may even be spiritual problems, spiritual questions, challenges in our life, 619 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,160 we turn to Google instead of to God. 620 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,480 And that's not right. 621 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,480 So there's that part of it. 622 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,280 And then there's this other part of it where technology can become an addiction. 623 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,400 True. 624 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,040 And any addiction. 625 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,960 Any addiction separates us from our Heavenly Father. 626 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,960 Any addiction. 627 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,960 Yeah, absolutely. 628 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:45,000 And for example, you know, Deb and I are teaching Institute still, and we're still teaching 629 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:51,840 the Divine Gift of forgiveness, that curriculum that you spent so much time developing and 630 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,720 others and the curriculum from which the book, the Divine Gift of Forgiveness itself 631 00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:00,400 was sort of derived, not sort of completely derived. 632 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,240 But as we do this, you know, we've been kind of asked to put some emphasis on addiction 633 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:08,880 recovery and how do we overcome and how do we heal from those things? 634 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,760 And I was surprised and I probably shouldn't have been, but I was surprised it caught me 635 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,000 off guard. 636 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,960 How many young people and I don't know, maybe older people too, will spend the entire night 637 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,960 just get caught. 638 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,960 I've got caught up in it. 639 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,960 So I guess it's possible to understand, but how they'll get caught up in gaming or how 640 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,640 they'll get caught up in Google searching or how they'll get and it's in and it's entertaining 641 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:38,000 and it's numbing and it helps them pull away from reality and it helps them escape and 642 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000 all of their problems and so on. 643 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,480 How many of them, I had one guy tell me in our class, a student in our class a couple 644 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:50,240 of semesters ago, he told it to me one on one personally, I said, how serious is this? 645 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:53,600 And he says, well, I'll tell you what, he says, there'll be nights when I'll sit down 646 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,760 and start gaming. 647 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,480 And the next thing I know, I look out the window and the sun's coming up. 648 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:04,200 And I have to go take my go to my classes at the university now. 649 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:12,040 That's the same sort of distraction or numbing out or consumption of and consuming of ourselves 650 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,960 that one would get from alcohol and drugs. 651 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,440 It's just not a lot different. 652 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,720 I mean, there are some differences in the way it can affect our body. 653 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:24,200 I don't want anybody emailing me and saying, hey, smoking and drinking and all that's obviously 654 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,360 we, that's not what we're talking about here. 655 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,320 What we're talking about here is our spiritual separation. 656 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,240 We're talking about how do we receive more revelation. 657 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:36,000 And we have to have that spiritual connection in order for that to take place. 658 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,200 And when we don't, it won't. 659 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,680 Yeah, absolutely. 660 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,680 Scott. 661 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,760 So, yeah, you know, we, we, because of the world we live in, you wake up in the middle 662 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,760 of the night. 663 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,160 Sometimes the first thing we turn to, right? 664 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,960 Yeah, the phone is our phone. 665 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,960 Yeah. 666 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,920 And we start looking news and we start looking at all the problems of the world and we start 667 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:01,880 thinking about all the, and we just more information, more information, more information. 668 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:07,800 I'm telling you, Scott, some of the sweetest experiences of my life have been wake up in 669 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:16,560 the middle of the night and to ponder, to meditate, to pray, to ponder some more, and 670 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:23,400 then pray again, and to maybe spend an hour with God in the middle of the night instead 671 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,800 of spending an hour playing a game or on Google in the middle of the night. 672 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,800 Right. 673 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,480 And then the rest can be totally life changing. 674 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,480 Yeah. 675 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,040 That's just a total different, right? 676 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:43,000 Approach to, to how you see the world and yourself and your relationship with Heavenly 677 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,520 Father. 678 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,880 One strengthens your relationship with the world and the other strengthens your relationship 679 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,960 with deity. 680 00:41:52,960 --> 00:42:02,960 So I just hope that all of our families and listeners will not become so over programmed 681 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,280 by technology that that's the first thing they turn to. 682 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,360 We should use it. 683 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,360 It can be an amazing blessing for all of us. 684 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,920 I mean, I figured out how to fix, can you believe this, Scott? 685 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:20,600 I figured out how to fix my, our dishwasher. 686 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:26,840 My wife and I have this dishwasher that sometimes the start button just blinks and you can't 687 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,120 get it to work. 688 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,280 So I just thought, well, okay, I'll, I'll YouTube it. 689 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:38,440 I YouTube it and I got this answer, which said, just go downstairs on the circuit breaker 690 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,800 and reset it. 691 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,880 I reset it. 692 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,680 I was about ready to replace the dishwasher and that fixed it. 693 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,680 Just flipping the switch. 694 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,200 Just flipping the switch. 695 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,560 Well, Google helped you that day. 696 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,560 YouTube. 697 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,560 Oh, YouTube. 698 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,560 YouTube. 699 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,560 Yeah. 700 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:56,560 Yeah. 701 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,560 Save me. 702 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,760 I don't know how many hundreds of dollars it would cost to replace a dishwasher. 703 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,280 I know the blessings. 704 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,280 I do too. 705 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,280 Yeah. 706 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:10,360 But when that becomes our first go to, instead of with some of our real problems and some 707 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:18,360 of the really quiet time that we could be spending with God, instead of having our eyes 708 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:25,000 take in other things that are not inspired and sometimes not even appropriate. 709 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,000 Wow. 710 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,000 What a difference it can make. 711 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,000 Have you ever been around somebody who's on their phone and you're trying? 712 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,000 Yeah. 713 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,920 Even in my own family, Scott, that you're trying to have a family event and everybody's 714 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,320 looking at their phone and it drives me crazy. 715 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,000 You wonder, I wonder, because I have that experience. 716 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,640 I wish I could just have a box and say, put your phone in here, then come in. 717 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,840 I said that to Deb one time. 718 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,360 I said, we're just going to get a box and everybody's putting their phone in the box 719 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,360 when they come in. 720 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,520 And she says, well, you can do that, but nobody will come. 721 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,240 It's kind of sad. 722 00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:01,240 And it's true. 723 00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:02,240 Kind of sad. 724 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:06,360 But I wonder if, I wonder if, you know, I feel that as a father and you feel that as 725 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,480 a father and as a friend and even as a spouse and even whatever, you know, we're with people 726 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,680 sometimes who seem more interested and more, and maybe I've been that guy too. 727 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,680 I'm sure I have, you know, more interested and more involved in what's going on in their 728 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,800 phone than what's taking place around them. 729 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,040 I wonder if Heavenly Father sometimes feels that way. 730 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:30,400 I wonder if he looks at that and says, guys, you really don't get it. 731 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,640 You know, that's not more important than what you could be doing. 732 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:38,360 Now, and again, there's an appropriate time and what we're talking about here is balance, 733 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:43,160 which is funny because I heard Elder Bednar give a talk the other day to Ensign College 734 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,520 when he said, balance is bogus. 735 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,880 He said, don't worry about balance. 736 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,000 That's bogus. 737 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,560 We should focus on what we should focus on. 738 00:44:53,560 --> 00:45:00,440 And I think that, I think that sometimes, you know, I, it's not just a distraction for 739 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,960 us, but I wonder again, if Heavenly Father is just a tad bit disappointed thinking, gosh, 740 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,760 God, or, or, or. 741 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,920 But we live far beneath our, our privileges. 742 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:15,280 Scott, we're not trying more intentionally. 743 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:21,440 What about President Nelson's favorite words when we're not being more intentional in receiving 744 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:26,520 revelation and instead we just are trying to get information. 745 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,520 Right. 746 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,560 Now, I know good information leads to good revelation, but too many times we're just 747 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:38,280 getting information doesn't even matter making any, any eternal significance in our life, 748 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,240 any significance in our life. 749 00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:43,480 Round and round we go, you know, we're just chasing the tail of information. 750 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,200 And a lot of times we're chasing that tail with no end game insight. 751 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,400 And they can, and that can be such a distraction. 752 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,400 Yeah. 753 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,880 So eliminate distractions and distortions. 754 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,520 And there's all kinds of distortions and deception on the internet. 755 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:09,400 The final key of revelation is to meditate and to listen and then record impressions. 756 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,120 Again this same member of the 70 years ago who I was, went to lunch with, he and his 757 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:21,280 wife said that he had been trained by Elder Bednar on how to receive revelation. 758 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,200 And again, I think revelation is a skill. 759 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:29,960 It's not just something that we hope for or something that just kind of spontaneously, 760 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:35,880 I know it can take place spontaneously, but revelation is a skill and this is a skill 761 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,840 that can be learned and a skill that must be developed. 762 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:49,200 So he had learned the skill of writing down an inspired question with a notebook, praying 763 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:59,360 about it, and then he had his pen in hand and his notebook in front of him as he prayed 764 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:06,200 and would take moments after he prayed to write down his first impressions. 765 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:11,280 And those first impressions were often as the Prophet Joseph Smith described the first 766 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:18,960 impressions that come to your mind are from God and he would write down these impressions. 767 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,080 So I just think it's really critical. 768 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,960 Elder Scott said that if you want revelation, when you read the scriptures have a pencil 769 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,520 in your hand so that you can mark down passages. 770 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:38,080 And as you mark down passages, the Holy Ghost can, because you're committed to listen and 771 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:44,200 to mark and to search and not just read, but you're really searching and treasuring the 772 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:51,920 Word that having a red pencil in hand can be an instrument of revelation about how you 773 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,640 read the scriptures. 774 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:58,720 If you journal how you read the scriptures, if you journal the impressions that you have 775 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:01,480 in doing come follow me. 776 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:10,600 Writing down impressions, Scott, recording those can be another source, another key to 777 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,920 receiving revelation. 778 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,640 And I just don't think that we meditate and listen enough. 779 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:22,600 You know in the middle of the night again, if you have time to just set and meditate. 780 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:27,800 Last night I sat in the woke up and I thought you know I could go back to my bed and look 781 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,800 at my phone. 782 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,960 I'm just going to sit in chair here and meditate. 783 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,360 I love those moments. 784 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:41,880 I love those sweet experiences in my life when I can just set and meditate and try to 785 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:50,480 listen and pray, whether I'm sitting or standing or walking or whatever, just to meditate and 786 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,160 listen. 787 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:59,800 So I know that as we seek revelation in our life, Scott, that Heavenly Father is anxious, 788 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:07,080 anxious, according to President Elton, to give us revelation and that we need to be more 789 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,920 intentional about it. 790 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,880 In fact, it's really been I think one of the great callings of President Nelson, one of 791 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:26,000 his great purposes or he feels a mission, a call to help the church and to help us individually 792 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,680 to receive more personal revelation. 793 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:35,240 One of the first talks that he gave was on, I think it was the first talk that he gave 794 00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:41,960 to the whole church after being called as a prophet in 2018, was revelation in the church 795 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,240 and personal revelation. 796 00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:55,160 Then he talked about how to increase our spiritual capacity and our intentions on receiving revelation. 797 00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:03,160 His talk entitled Hear Him, which was given April 2020 at the 200th anniversary of the 798 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:11,680 first vision has always been one of my favorites on how to receive personal revelation and 799 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,760 hear the voice of the Lord. 800 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,600 And he uses the Prophet Joseph Smith's first vision and tells us that that should be an 801 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,760 example to us on how to receive revelation. 802 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:27,760 And on that note, by the way, the Prophet Joseph Smith in asking inspired question, which is 803 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,960 one of our seven key points. 804 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:35,320 He didn't go ask Elder Bednoir, I think just powerfully makes this point. 805 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,280 He didn't go say, what church should I join? 806 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,080 That wasn't his prayer. 807 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:53,200 His prayer was, I've decided to join and he's told to join none of them. 808 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,840 You know, he doesn't go ask which church is true. 809 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:03,680 He asked which church should I join? 810 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,720 Well that's a statement of commitment. 811 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,080 That's a question of commitment. 812 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:19,440 You know, instead of just what church is true, that wasn't the inspired question. 813 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,880 The inspired question was which church should I join? 814 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:28,960 It was a statement that he was willing to act, that's an action is faith. 815 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:38,800 And when we ask questions that show our faith, then we're more likely to get an answer. 816 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:46,600 So I hope that our listeners will continue to listen for the Holy Ghost in their life, 817 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:52,800 which I know comes and I know that you can recognize it by the prescriptions given to 818 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:58,480 us in the scriptures, particularly Dr. and Covenant section 11, which I know that we've 819 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,880 quoted before in this course. 820 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:06,080 Scott by section 11, I love this description of how to recognize the Holy Ghost in her 821 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:11,680 life and it's section 11 verses 12 through 14. 822 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:19,240 Now verily I say unto thee, put your trust in that spirit, which leadeth to do good. 823 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:24,640 So number one, the spirit will always lead us to do good and to do something. 824 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:32,520 Almost always the Holy Ghost will tell us what to do and it will be good to do justly. 825 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:41,600 It will lead us to be just, to fair, to be humble and to walk humbly, to judge righteously 826 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,560 this is my spirit. 827 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,600 Verily verily I say unto you, I will impart unto you of my spirit, which shall enlighten 828 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,280 your mind. 829 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:52,560 That's number five. 830 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,320 And which shall fill your soul with joy. 831 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,320 That's number six. 832 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,920 And we could say and fill your soul with peace. 833 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:08,520 Then shall you know or by this shall you know all things whatsoever you desire of me, which 834 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:16,840 are pertaining unto things of righteousness in faith, believing in me that you shall receive. 835 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:25,200 Then maybe the last key then, which would be number eight would be to ask in faith, believing 836 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,080 that you shall receive. 837 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:35,040 Well thank you Scott for time this morning and talking about one of my favorite topics 838 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:40,800 and points of doctrine in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is how to receive answers to 839 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:46,640 our prayer and receive revelation from our loving Heavenly Father who wants to communicate 840 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,720 more with us. 841 00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:58,280 On this last key to meditate and listen and then record impressions, I think this meditation 842 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,720 also there's a component to that. 843 00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:07,560 You know I believe prayer and meditation usually go really well hand in hand, right? 844 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:12,560 Because you know when we communicate, when we're praying we're communicating to Heavenly 845 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,560 Father. 846 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,440 When we meditate we're opening up ourselves to receive those answers. 847 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,280 We quiet our mind, we open our spirit, we open our soul. 848 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:28,160 And as you know the eleventh step in Alcoholics Anonymous reads, we sought through prayer 849 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:36,440 and meditation to improve, to improve our conscious contact with God. 850 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:44,040 And you know I love that because I don't know any of us that really has a desire to 851 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:49,720 be close to Him that's not in a constant desire also to improve that conscious contact. 852 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:55,120 Not just contact, but that conscious contact to be aware of the contact that we have with 853 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,920 Him. 854 00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:03,480 And Scripture proves this out, the revelations that we receive from our prophets and brethren. 855 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:08,400 And right here in the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous I think all of these things work 856 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:15,360 together to help us understand how do we improve that conscious contact and by so doing also 857 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,320 our relationship with our Heavenly Father. 858 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,240 Yeah, well thank you Scott. 859 00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:26,880 And I love how President Elton is trying so hard to teach us how to, as this is going 860 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:40,360 to end quote and actually an enzyme article from January 2021, how to grow into revelation. 861 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:47,040 It's a process, we shouldn't expect this skill of how to receive revelation to come in an 862 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,120 instant or a moment. 863 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:57,520 And how can we, I invite all of our listeners, what steps can I begin to take to learn this 864 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:02,520 skill and to grow into revelation. 865 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,640 And as doctrine comes in section 50, this is your grandpa, D'Orphys, my dad, this is 866 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:14,120 one of his favorite scriptures, grow brighter and brighter until the perfect day. 867 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,360 Well that perfect day is probably not going to be in this life, none of us is going to 868 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,400 be perfect at this. 869 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:30,960 But we need to learn and begin to make a plan and journal how can we grow into the principle 870 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,760 of revelation. 871 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:40,120 As our listeners accept that invitation, all of us, myself included, as we begin to journal 872 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:46,720 and ponder and pray on how can we grow into the principle of revelation, how can I receive 873 00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:52,800 more revelation, how can I stop living beneath my privileges as Brigham Young puts it and 874 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:58,800 start to receive more communication, direction from God through the Holy Ghost. 875 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:06,200 It can be a life changing moment and experience in our life, Scott. 876 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,640 And maybe some of the most important things that we can be doing, you know, this isn't 877 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:15,080 easy, this does require work, effort, let's put it that way. 878 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,440 This does require effort. 879 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:23,800 It may not seem easy, but it's better than an easier than living a life without revelation, 880 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:28,760 without that contact, without being aware of that contact and communication, and actually 881 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,240 communion, you know, with our Heavenly Father. 882 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,120 And when I think, when I use the word communion, I think of a more sacred relationship. 883 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:40,040 I think of a covenantal relationship that we all, that we're talking about here and 884 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,840 it's kind of the pinnacle of our efforts. 885 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,480 To be with you again, David. 886 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:46,480 You too. 887 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:53,600 I love you, our families and others, and so thankful that we believe in continuous revelation 888 00:57:53,600 --> 00:58:01,800 and that the Restoration has helped us to show us patterns and give us additional scripture 889 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:06,840 to know how we might be able to receive personal revelation in our lives. 890 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,960 I'm grateful that I've been able to experience this in my own life. 891 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:15,600 I'm committed to being worthy of and working towards and developing the skills so that 892 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,640 I can experience it more. 893 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:23,680 I hope that we all can have that exact same resolve as we move through this week and through 894 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:24,680 our lives. 895 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:25,680 Thanks for being with us, everybody. 896 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,920 We look forward to being with you again next week and until then, remember you have been 897 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,760 redeemed through His blood. 898 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:47,040 We'll see you next week.