1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:21,960 Hey there everybody welcome out to another episode of Redeemed Through His Blood. 2 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,120 My name is Scott Durfey joined as always by Dave Durfey 3 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,120 What's up Dave? 4 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,120 Hey Scott. 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,120 Good to be together again. 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:35,640 I know I've been on a little vacation and it's good to see you again. 7 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,640 Be together. 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:42,280 I'm excited to talk about the core of repentance today. 9 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,400 Yeah, Dave just got back from a couple of vacations actually. 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:54,360 He did a church history tour with a great family and went back to Nauvoo and all the 11 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,600 restoration sites. 12 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,960 I got to do that with Dave a few years ago, a couple years ago I guess it's been and 13 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,840 what a life changing experience that was for me. 14 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,960 It's been fun for several years now since I retired. 15 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:11,520 It's got to go back once or twice a year. 16 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,760 There's enough people that I know who want to go back there and having lived back in 17 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:24,560 the Midwest and actually being a director of a seminaries and institute tour of the Midwest, 18 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:33,440 all the Missouri sites, Nauvoo sites, Iowa, Council Bluff sites. 19 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:42,640 I love those places but in this trip we started in Kansas City and did all the Missouri sites, 20 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:49,680 Nauvoo, Carthage and then jumped over to Columbus, Ohio, stayed one night there before we went 21 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,680 to Kirtland. 22 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:56,280 We did all the Kirtland sites and then we go to New York and do all the New York sites. 23 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,920 Susquehanna was especially beautiful. 24 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:04,400 I don't know, there was just something about it on this trip that was probably my favorite 25 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,120 experience on this particular trip. 26 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,800 Fayette and we always end up in the Sacred Grove and have a testimony meeting in the 27 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:13,800 Sacred Grove. 28 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:21,040 Yeah, that Sacred Grove testimony meeting has been one of the powerful events of my life 29 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,320 a couple of years ago as we did that. 30 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:29,440 As a matter of fact, I look across my office here and on the mirror I actually have a little 31 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:36,080 maple leaf that I still have from that experience, a little token of something special to me 32 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,440 so it was really cool. 33 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:45,680 All we had a great, we were able to record several episodes and put them in queue so 34 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,960 that's how we've been able to do this. 35 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:53,920 But last week we had a, last episode I guess I should say we had a really great conversation 36 00:02:53,920 --> 00:03:00,640 as we continue our quest on understanding and implementing repentance, the power of 37 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:06,000 Jesus Christ and the forgiving powers and the redeeming powers and the enabling powers 38 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,280 and all of the other powers that come, His powers that come to us through the Atonement, 39 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,080 His Atonement and you know they all, they're all invoked in our life and made possible 40 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:21,480 through repentance and this has been, I mentioned this last episode or maybe the one before 41 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,200 but this is my favorite part of the course that we go through here because this is really 42 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:31,400 where the key gets turned, where our opportunity to become more qualified to have His Spirit 43 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:38,080 with us, to take His name upon us, to have all of those blessings in our lives on a constant 44 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,920 and you know, day by day permanent basis. 45 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,280 You know it's just been a beautiful thing. 46 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:50,040 But today we don't shift gears but we focus on something that's going to be extremely 47 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:56,040 important and really kind of the crux of all of this Dave. 48 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,720 So well the core, I call it the core. 49 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,720 That's better word. 50 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:07,560 You know Scott, we can probably never review enough that you can never put repentance before 51 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,560 faith. 52 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:16,360 You know I don't want to over complicate this whole process that we call repentance but 53 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,120 really you can't skip anything in the doctrine of Christ. 54 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:30,680 I mean that's really what we're talking about is how can we access the powers of the doctrine 55 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,440 of Christ. 56 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:38,040 And the doctrine of Christ is faith in Jesus Christ and His Atonement. 57 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,040 Repentance. 58 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:47,200 And it has to be I think in that order that if one is repenting but lacks sufficient faith 59 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:53,680 in Jesus Christ and His Atonement, His efforts are largely going to be unproductive. 60 00:04:53,680 --> 00:05:00,560 And then one cannot really receive and recognize forgiveness, which is part of the manifestations 61 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,840 of our repentance unless he receives the Holy Ghost, which is all. 62 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:11,880 So you know faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, repentance, baptism, the importance of ordinances 63 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,880 and covenants are part of this whole process. 64 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,680 And then to receive the Holy Ghost and endure to the end. 65 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,160 This is all about repentance. 66 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:34,080 And yet Scott, repentance is something that I think is just so many just kind of take 67 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:41,640 for granted or don't go deep enough into understanding the real process of it. 68 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,240 It's clearly taught in the Scriptures. 69 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:53,320 It's wrong of us to oversimplify it and it's equally as wrong to over complicate it. 70 00:05:53,320 --> 00:06:01,640 And so I hope that our listeners can by the spirit understand what we're trying to what 71 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,360 we've taught and what we're going to try to teach today. 72 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:12,640 We've talked about the foundations of repentance, which is understanding the need for Redeemer 73 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:19,800 and understanding the Atonement of Jesus Christ, which leads us to faith in Jesus Christ and 74 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,240 His Atonement. 75 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:29,440 We've talked about the conditions of repentance to be honest with ourselves about our sins 76 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:37,360 and our unworthiness and our fallen worthless state that to be honest about that and to 77 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:44,360 be brokenhearted and have a contrite spirit and experience godly sorrow. 78 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,200 Those are the conditions of repentance. 79 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:53,840 And once we've met once we've received and built the foundation of repentance and once 80 00:06:53,840 --> 00:07:00,520 we have experienced the conditions and fulfilled the conditions of repentance, then Scott we 81 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:09,980 are ready to move into the actions of repentance, which are quite simple but not easy to do. 82 00:07:09,980 --> 00:07:13,320 And yet the actions of repentance, this is the core. 83 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,520 And when I say actions of repentance, I'm really only talking about one or two things. 84 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:30,000 The actions of repentance are to cry out, to cry out and to God for mercy, to cry out, 85 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:39,760 confessing our need, expressing our how much we rely, holy rely on His merits to confess 86 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,120 that before Him. 87 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:52,680 Just crying out is a core element of repentance, which so many people miss or skip in the process 88 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,680 of repentance. 89 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:59,880 And it's really personal with me, Scott, because I did it for years. 90 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,320 I didn't cry out. 91 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,720 I was doing everything I could to repent. 92 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,480 And just, it was so frustrating for me. 93 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,880 I was trying to get ready to go on my mission. 94 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,320 I've shared this story and I remember sharing this story with Elder Anderson, you know, and 95 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,440 we were working on the book, The Divine Gift of Forgiveness. 96 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:28,280 And then sharing this story with him, he was very sweet, very sweet about it, very grateful 97 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,520 that I would share it with him and would, and would, and would refer to kind of a little 98 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,720 bit about it in the book. 99 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:40,800 But Scott, I did everything I thought I could to repent of my sins before my mission. 100 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,880 And I never did really feel forgiven. 101 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,120 And I got a mission call. 102 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,000 I was worthy enough. 103 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,880 I was trying hard and it was keeping the commandments most of the time and for long enough period 104 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,840 of time to be able to go on a mission, right? 105 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,200 But I didn't feel forgiven or worthy. 106 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,520 And I understand that because being a MTC president and how many missionaries came in 107 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,080 and expressed that to me as well. 108 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,440 And I was grateful to be able to share with him my personal experience or odyssey with 109 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,440 this. 110 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:18,000 Anyway, I remember writing even letters on my mission to my stake president, our sweet 111 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,600 president, Roberts, and, you know, expressing, are you sure I'm worthy to be here? 112 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,160 Because I sure don't feel worthy to be here. 113 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,080 And I knew I wasn't. 114 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,360 I was, I was trying to be obedient. 115 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,440 I was having some success. 116 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,960 I was certainly doing the best I could. 117 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,280 I, I felt the spirit from time to time. 118 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,280 I'm sure. 119 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:46,000 I had no idea every time I bore my testimony, but I just knew that I, something was missing 120 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,400 and that I had not really been forgiven. 121 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:56,720 Then I was reading in the Book of Mormon one day studying the Book of Mormon and I came 122 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:02,360 across this scripture in Alma, chapter 38, Shiblin, you know, which I think a lot of 123 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:03,560 members can relate to. 124 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:05,840 Good old steady Shiblin. 125 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:06,840 Not too bad. 126 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:07,840 You know, he's not too bad. 127 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,440 He's not too wicked. 128 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:18,640 And he, he's, he's steady, you know, he's commended by his dad for being steady. 129 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,720 And his dad's talking to him about his steadiness and his faithfulness. 130 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:30,320 But his dad then, then says this, this is Alma sharing with him his born again experience. 131 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,400 This is Alma 38 verse eight. 132 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:38,880 And it came to pass that I was three days and three nights in the most bitter pain and 133 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:47,640 anguish of soul and never until, and those three words are circled in my scripture, Scott, 134 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:57,040 and never until, and never until I did cry out unto the Lord Jesus Christ for mercy. 135 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,080 Did I receive a remission of my sins? 136 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:09,720 But behold, I did cry unto him and I did find peace to my soul. 137 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,960 I realized reading that, Scott, I had never done that. 138 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,640 Oh, I had prayed. 139 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,880 I was praying multiple times. 140 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,600 I think I averaged it out one day. 141 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:26,480 I missionaries praying on a corner before you track, praying in discussions, opening 142 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:27,480 and closing. 143 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:34,240 I kept track of all the prayers I offered in one week and divided it by seven and we 144 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:40,080 were averaging almost 14 prayers a day as a missionary. 145 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,520 And I had been out on my mission for several months. 146 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:50,960 So I don't know how many times how many prayers I had offered, but I had never cried out. 147 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,200 That's a different prayer. 148 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,840 That's a totally different prayer. 149 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:02,160 You and I were talking a little early and you said in the world of addiction it's called 150 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,160 what? 151 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,600 You know, it's actually one of the steps. 152 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:12,480 The 11th step is that we continue to seek, you know, contact with Heavenly Father and 153 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,960 we talk about it a lot in recovery, in the circles of recovery. 154 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,120 We have prayers. 155 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:24,120 There are written prayers, which are really kind of structural aids to help folks that 156 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:29,800 are moving into recovery to kind of begin this dialogue with deity, with Heavenly Father, 157 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,480 that maybe in many cases has never even taken place, right? 158 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,840 We have a third step prayer, the third steps when we make a decision to turn our will in 159 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,880 our life over the care of God. 160 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,160 We have a seventh step prayer, which is where we humbly ask Him to remove all our defects 161 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,920 of character, you know, but but Dave, the thing that the thing about these prayers 162 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:56,040 is and it's the same with repentance, you know, any and I think that we can probably 163 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:01,360 equate recovery from any addiction because that is repentance. 164 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,720 You know, there does, you know, you're talking about this crying out. 165 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:10,800 There does have to be that crying out and sometimes that crying out can only come once 166 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,960 we have recognized and realize our own nothingness, you know, once we have just been beat to 167 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:21,560 excuse the expression, but once we have just been beat to a bloody pulp sometimes, that's 168 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:27,000 when by life, by our own decisions, by the decisions of others, by circumstances that 169 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,600 we've either put ourselves in by our own choice or not by our own choice. 170 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,720 These are the things that drive us to that crying out, you know, a little bit of desperation. 171 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,920 I have to be desperate to have that, you know, we call that the gift of desperation. 172 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:49,480 Desperation can be a gift if it provides impetus into my crying out and asking God to be the 173 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:55,840 captain of my ship to take care of my life to be the one that steps in and does all these 174 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:56,840 things for me. 175 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,560 Well, I think all of that is a precursor to the crying out for sure. 176 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:06,320 And you know, it's over and over again in the Book of Mormon, the term crying out. 177 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,920 And that that gift of desperation, I think in the Book of Mormon is described by many 178 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:17,660 when they say that man can merit nothing of himself. 179 00:14:17,660 --> 00:14:20,720 Man can merit nothing. 180 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,440 There's desperation in that. 181 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,760 When you realize that, that I can merit nothing of myself. 182 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:32,600 When King Benjamin tells people who've cried out and who have been even forgiven of their 183 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,800 sins and had a piece of conscience and experienced some joy and he reminds them to remember their 184 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,280 worthless and fallen state and their own nothingness. 185 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:51,760 So I think it's really important that we we understand that truth of our nothingness, 186 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,480 which will then help us in our crying out. 187 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,920 And I came to that point in my mission. 188 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:04,960 I just I just realized I got so desperate because I realized that all that I was doing 189 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,800 and all the letters I was writing and all the umpteen times I had confessed and all 190 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,720 of the commandments that I was keeping and all the rules that I was obeying was never 191 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,240 going to be enough. 192 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:21,240 I thought if I just went out there and worked out my work, my guts out and and I was perfectly 193 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,120 obedient and that I would feel forgiven. 194 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,000 And I really did not feel forgiven if I was honest. 195 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:35,640 So one after reading the scripture, never until I did cry out and Lord Jesus Christ 196 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,600 for mercy, I did receive a remission of my sins. 197 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:44,760 So grateful for those those words of Alma to Shiblin. 198 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:52,160 Uh, that night I decided I was going to cry out and I had to wait until my companion went 199 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,160 to sleep. 200 00:15:53,160 --> 00:16:01,920 We were I was in Pacific Grove, California and I I waited until my companion was asleep. 201 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,800 I had I'd been weeping a little bit. 202 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,800 I was laying there. 203 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:10,440 We were in a boarding home actually shared a home and shared a bathroom with another 204 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:11,760 family. 205 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:18,080 It was about midnight, I think when I finally thought, okay, I could probably go to the bathroom 206 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:23,920 and have some peace and quiet and under an uninterrupted time. 207 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,880 But I had been weeping for a few hours even after my companion, I think had fallen asleep 208 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,680 and I went in and I fell fell down by the bathtub. 209 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,640 Scott and I cried out. 210 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:40,160 That was the first time in my life I'd really cried out. 211 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,080 Honestly, I knew I was forgiven. 212 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,240 I received a remission of my sins. 213 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:55,000 Now I know that for many people it re receiving forgiveness of sin and repentance is not an 214 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,640 event. 215 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,080 I know it's a process. 216 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,700 I absolutely believe it's a process. 217 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:05,160 But crying out is an event. 218 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:10,480 That is an event and it's an important event in the process of repentance and many people 219 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,120 skip it. 220 00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:16,360 Many people just never get around to doing it. 221 00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:21,680 You can't believe how many, let's go through a few Book of Mormon examples of this if that's 222 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:22,680 okay. 223 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,680 Anything you want to? 224 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,520 Yeah, actually I have a Book of Mormon example that I want to talk about. 225 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,520 I want to look at a few of those. 226 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,360 Yeah, I actually have a couple of them. 227 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:34,520 The first one that comes to mind, they're both in Mosiah, but the first one that comes 228 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:41,400 to mind is in Mosiah chapter 3 verse 19 where we read, for the natural man's and enemy of 229 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:46,480 God and has been from the fall of Adam and will be forever and ever unless he yields 230 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,160 to the enticements of the Holy Spirit and put a thought the natural man and become a 231 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:56,040 saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord and become a as a child, submissive, 232 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:02,680 meet, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things and so on. 233 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:08,880 Well so Scott, that's what King Benjamin taught the people and as a result of that teaching 234 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,640 them, look at what they do in chapter 4 verse 2. 235 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:18,480 Very next chapter, they had viewed themselves in their own carnal state even less than the 236 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,200 dust of the earth and they all cried out. 237 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:28,640 So they had received that gift of desperation and they had all cried out with one voice 238 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:36,160 saying, oh have mercy and apply the atoning blood of Christ that we may receive forgiveness 239 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:42,520 of our sins and our hearts may be purified for we believe in Jesus Christ the Son of 240 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,960 God who created heaven and earth and all things who shall come down among the children 241 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,960 of men. 242 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,760 I just think that's an amazing prayer. 243 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:56,120 They cried out, oh have mercy and apply the atoning blood. 244 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:58,480 They didn't say atonement. 245 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:05,080 They said, no I don't want to get into some semantics here, but they said apply the atoning 246 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:11,960 blood of Christ that we may receive a forgiveness of our sins and then the very next verse, 247 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,680 verse 3, they were filled with the Spirit of the Lord and with joy and received the 248 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,320 remission of their sins. 249 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:24,160 Scott, that's an event, a part of the process of repentance, but crying out is an event. 250 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,600 Well and that's the desired outcome, right? 251 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:33,040 When we start to do the repentance process, that's really what we're looking for. 252 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,920 It is and some people may cry out more than once. 253 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:44,080 I mean I've cried out so many times in my life and it's over and over and over again 254 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:52,000 so even though crying out is an event, it's just an ongoing process of repentance of crying 255 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:58,320 out over and over and over again throughout our life as we recognize our need for Redeemer 256 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,800 and our nothingness. 257 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,080 What other examples do you have? 258 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,920 Well I want to go still in Mosiah to chapter 24. 259 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:06,920 Good one. 260 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,920 We'll go to verse 10. 261 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,800 This is not about repentance but this is about deliverance. 262 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,120 Exactly and about crying out. 263 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:21,320 It came to pass so great were their afflictions that they began to cry mightily to God. 264 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,000 So great were their afflictions. 265 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,120 Again, there's that gift of desperation. 266 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,320 They recognize their afflictions. 267 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:32,880 They are laying in bed waiting for their companion to go to sleep because their afflictions 268 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,440 are overwhelming them. 269 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,000 They're taking control of their lives. 270 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,440 And it came to pass so great were their afflictions that they began to cry mightily to God. 271 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,840 We're going to skip down to 12. 272 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:43,840 That was intense. 273 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,840 Skipping down to 12. 274 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,680 Alman is people did not raise their voices unto the Lord their God but did pour out their 275 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,680 hearts to Him. 276 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,340 Yeah, they were commanded not to pray out loud, remember? 277 00:20:53,340 --> 00:20:55,720 And He did know the thoughts of their hearts. 278 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:02,920 So again, that crying out can take on so many different visuals. 279 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,600 It's the way we live our life can be a crying out. 280 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,280 An event at the bathtub in wherever you were in California can be a crying out. 281 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,760 A Pacific Grove, California sacred spot. 282 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,240 One of the places I have cried out and have done so even recently is just in the mountains 283 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,320 right above where I live here. 284 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,600 And so it can be all of that. 285 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,680 And in 13 it came to pass that the voice of the Lord came to them in their afflictions 286 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:35,640 saying lift up your heads and be of good comfort for I know of the covenant which He have made 287 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,760 with unto me and I will covenant with my people and deliver them from bondage. 288 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,120 Now we think of bondage. 289 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:46,800 We so often think of chains and that's bondage and slavery. 290 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,080 That's bondage and the others being over controlled to of us. 291 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,720 But we're also in bondage to our sin. 292 00:21:52,720 --> 00:22:00,120 You know, in our addictions and our bad behaviors in our bad habits in our any in even in those, 293 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:05,800 you know, I love when elder Dwarf talked about the bumper sticker. 294 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,920 Don't judge me because my sin looks different than yours. 295 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,880 You know, we all have those bondages were all that most of us because of the natural 296 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,200 man in the fall as one of the effects. 297 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,680 We have bondage in our lives. 298 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:25,360 And that bondage can only most of that bondage can only be relieved as we cry out and allow 299 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:28,880 him to really move those afflictions like we just read there. 300 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,640 Yeah, that's a great example. 301 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,920 I was I had 24. 302 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,920 What ones do you have? 303 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,400 Well, I I have to go right to Enos. 304 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:45,480 So if we look at the and by the way, Scott, in that example 24, it said cry mightily. 305 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,480 Not just cry out. 306 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,480 No, no, no cry mightily. 307 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,480 Yeah. 308 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,840 And that's kind of the terms that she was here in the book of Enos. 309 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,400 So in the book of Enos, he tell he's going to tell us about the wrestle he had with God 310 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,680 before he received remission of his sins. 311 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:07,280 And he goes out to hunt wild beasts in the forest and the joy of the saints and the words 312 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:13,920 of his father sunk deep into his heart and he kneels down verse four and my soul hungered. 313 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,160 Okay, that's the gift of desperation. 314 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:28,320 My soul hungered and I kneeled down before my maker and I cried unto him in mighty prayer 315 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,800 and supplication for my known soul. 316 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,000 And all the day long did I cry unto him. 317 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Yeah. 318 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:42,360 And when the night came, I did still raise my voice high that it reached the heavens. 319 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:43,480 He uses the word cry. 320 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,840 I just want people to, I don't know that it's a tears sort of crying. 321 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,840 It's a, right? 322 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,840 It was I at 24. 323 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,160 It wasn't even a vocal voice. 324 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,640 It was a crying out, a soul cry. 325 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,680 And that's what I was going to say. 326 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,360 I don't think crying out is going to necessarily look the same for every single person and 327 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:02,200 in every single situation. 328 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:09,440 Maybe the way I cry out for one thing may look different 25 years ago than it does today. 329 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,440 And there may be tears. 330 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,320 In fact, I think most of the time, not all the time. 331 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:20,200 I did hear from somebody say that, you know, a certain leader in the church believed that 332 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,760 most of this crying out would be with tears. 333 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,280 Well I don't know. 334 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,800 Some people may, some people may not. 335 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,960 It's an earnestness. 336 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:34,520 It's not just a normal, it's more than just a humble, sweet prayer. 337 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:47,200 It is a, a needful desperation, hungering, crying out of our whole souls, Scott. 338 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:53,240 Yeah, I think that desperation can create an energy within us and that energy will be 339 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,240 translated. 340 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,240 However it shows up, it may show up in tears. 341 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,680 It may show up in, I don't, I don't know. 342 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,280 You know, for me, it's been tears. 343 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:09,400 For me, it's been, you know, other things as well, you know, body posture, you know. 344 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,600 I may, I may be on my belly on the, I may be on my knees. 345 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,920 I may be on my horse. 346 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,480 I may be, you know, a bunch of different. 347 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,480 In my car. 348 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,480 In my car. 349 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,480 Wherever. 350 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,600 On my Harley-Davidson riding up the canyon. 351 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,320 I mean, that, that, those things will, you know, get still. 352 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,040 So yeah, and I think we should be careful about that. 353 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,920 We're not prescribing what it should look like. 354 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,840 We're just, we are just talking. 355 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,840 It's up to you. 356 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,000 Different for every individual. 357 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,440 And it's up to you to decide what that is. 358 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,440 Exactly. 359 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,600 But if it doesn't, I think we can be safe in saying this. 360 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:50,400 I think that we can be safe in saying if it doesn't require great energy of soul, not 361 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,560 just body, but of soul, but soul and body. 362 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,360 If it doesn't require great energy of soul and body, then we maybe should question, are 363 00:25:58,360 --> 00:25:59,560 we really crying out? 364 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,960 Well, it may look different for every individual, but every individual will know. 365 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,960 They'll know. 366 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,280 When they're crying out and whether or not. 367 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,280 Yeah. 368 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,280 Yeah. 369 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,560 I love the example of Aaron teaching King Lomonae's father in element 22, Scott. 370 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,720 I love that one too. 371 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:21,720 And you know, after he teaches him the, the fallen nature and that man can merit nothing 372 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,680 of himself. 373 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,080 He teaches the king and the king is humbled. 374 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:33,200 And verse 16, you want to read 16 and 17, 18 in 22. 375 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,200 Yeah. 376 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,200 Yeah. 377 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,520 But Aaron said unto him, if thou desire assisting, if thou will bow down before God, yea, if 378 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:47,040 thou will repent of all thy sins and will bow down before God and call on his name in 379 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:54,680 faith, believing that you shall receive, then shall shout thou receive the hope which thou 380 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,880 desire is, which would be forgiveness. 381 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,080 And it came to pass. 382 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,960 When Aaron had said these words, the king did bow down before the Lord upon his knees. 383 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,760 Yea, even did prostrate himself upon the earth. 384 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,760 I mean, he's laid out. 385 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,760 Yeah. 386 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,120 He's just, this is a, he's was the last time you let you had that prayer. 387 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:14,120 Yeah. 388 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:18,920 I honestly, my experience in the bathroom that night was I was like that. 389 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,920 I was pretty well laid out. 390 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,920 Yeah. 391 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,560 I was just, I just was flat. 392 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,400 And crying out. 393 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,200 And so he's prostrate and it says, and he cried mightily. 394 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,200 Same. 395 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,200 Mightily. 396 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,200 Again, mightily. 397 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,200 Yeah. 398 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,960 And the prayer in verse 18 is God. 399 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:42,800 Oh God, Aaron hath told me that there is a God and if there is a God and if thou art 400 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:51,480 God, wilt thou make thyself known unto me and I will give away all my sins to know thee. 401 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,520 That's one of my favorite parts of the entire Book of Mormon. 402 00:27:54,520 --> 00:28:01,040 And that, and that I may be raised from the dead and be saved at the last day. 403 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:06,600 And now when the King had said these words, he was struck as if he were dead. 404 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:12,280 Well and then for a period of time, he's in this kind of state of unconsciousness and 405 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:18,240 he is being redeemed and he comes out of it and he knows he is born again. 406 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,960 He is converted unto the Lord. 407 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,480 He knows where he stands with the Lord and that his sins are forgiven. 408 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,840 I love this little prayer that is never hardly ever quoted. 409 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:38,400 It's actually quoted by Alma quoting Zenas. 410 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:47,800 And so Alma is quoting an Old Testament prophet Zenas, which he must have, you know, he's 411 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,800 quoting this course from the brass plates for it to be in the Book of Mormon. 412 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,160 But it's in Alma chapter 33. 413 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,960 It kind of starts with verse three. 414 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:03,760 Scott, he talks about, don't I told you about prayer or worship, what that means. 415 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,440 And then he quotes Zenas's prayer. 416 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,880 And that begins, this prayer begins in verse four. 417 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:17,760 For Zenas said, this is his prayer, Thou art merciful, O God, for thou hast 418 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,840 heard my prayer, even when I was in the wilderness. 419 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,920 So that's where he cried out. 420 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:29,880 Yea, thou was merciful when I prayed concerning those who were mine enemies, and thou 421 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,440 didst turn them to me. 422 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,440 Enemies could be addictions or whatever, right? 423 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:46,000 Yea, O God, and thou was merciful unto me when I did cry unto thee in my field. 424 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:51,280 When I did cry unto thee in my prayer, and thou didst hear me. 425 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:58,000 And again, O God, when I did turn to my house, thou didst hear me in my prayer. 426 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:04,200 And when I did turn unto my closet, O Lord, and prayed unto thee, thou didst hear me. 427 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:14,560 Yea, thou art merciful unto thy children when they cry unto thee, to be heard of thee and 428 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,000 not of men, and thou wilt hear them. 429 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:24,640 Yea, O God, isn't it awesome that we have a prayer of an Old Testament prophet that's 430 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,240 not even mentioned in the Bible? 431 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,920 And we have his prayer quoted here. 432 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:35,200 Verse nine, Yea, O God, thou hast been merciful unto me, and heard my cries in the midst of 433 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,200 my congregations. 434 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:42,480 Yea, and thou hast also heard me when I've been cast out, and have been despised by mine 435 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,480 enemies. 436 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:49,800 Yea, thou didst hear my cries, and was angry with mine enemies, and thou didst visit them 437 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,320 in thine anger with speedy destruction. 438 00:30:54,320 --> 00:31:00,800 And thou didst hear me because of mine afflictions, and my sincerity. 439 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:10,280 And it is because, word I have circled, it is because of thy Son that thou hast been thus 440 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:18,440 merciful unto me, therefore I will cry unto thee in all mine afflictions, for in thee is 441 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:26,160 my joy, for thou hast turned thy judgments away from me because of thy Son. 442 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,160 What a prayer. 443 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,080 Yea, you know what I love about, so much I love about that, but one of the things that 444 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,560 really kind of stands out to me, Dave, in that, is right there at the end, I will cry 445 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,280 unto thee in all mine afflictions. 446 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:48,120 Do we, you know, we're not, I'll take a personal inventory here, I don't cry out to him in 447 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:54,840 all my afflictions, you know, and I wonder, that needs to change in me, you know, that 448 00:31:54,840 --> 00:32:01,360 needs to be something that I should take this pattern that has been laid out before me, 449 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,920 by a wonderful prophet and restored. 450 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,840 A prophet quoting a prophet. 451 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:12,360 Yea, and I need to take that and cry out in all my afflictions, that's an invitation 452 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,160 for us to do that. 453 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,400 In other words, you know, if it seems like an affliction to me, we shouldn't, we should 454 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,720 never feel like, well that's too small to bother him with, you know. 455 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,720 Yea, for sure. 456 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:29,920 Yea, if it feels like an affliction, I have been invited to cry unto him for healing and 457 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,920 forgiveness in that affliction. 458 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,920 Yea. 459 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,920 That's cool. 460 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:42,200 I don't know how many times we heard the word cry or cries in that passage, but I really 461 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,840 recommend our listeners to read that and ponder that prayer. 462 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:53,480 And then in the very next chapter, of course Amulik is there, Alma's trusty companion, 463 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,880 and he's hearing Alma teach this to the Zoramites, right? 464 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,280 And Amulik picks up on that when Alma turns the time over to him to do a little preaching. 465 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:09,080 And so in the very next chapter, Alma 34, he starts talking about faith unto repentance, 466 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,200 a term that he uses, which is unique in the Book of Mormon, and he uses it a few, more 467 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,880 than a few times here. 468 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,360 Faith unto repentance, faith unto repentance. 469 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,360 And then he tells them how to do that. 470 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:27,960 And he says, he starts in verse 17, this is Amulik, therefore may God grant unto you my 471 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:36,520 brethren that ye may begin to exercise your faith unto repentance, that ye begin to call 472 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:42,840 upon his holy name, that he would have mercy upon you. 473 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:49,520 Cry unto him for mercy, for he is mighty to save. 474 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,760 Cry unto him in your fields, cry and I'm just paraphrasing kind of now, skipping through 475 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,760 this. 476 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,240 Cry unto him in your fields, cry unto him in your houses. 477 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,840 He picks up on Zenas' prayer and he starts to repeat it. 478 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,840 Yeah. 479 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,920 So stop right there. 480 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:11,400 Cry unto them in your houses and you know, there's something in there that is more than 481 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,400 what is written. 482 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,160 It says, over all your household, both morning, midday and evening. 483 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:21,040 Does that mean we should set a clock and say a prayer in the morning and then want to, 484 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,320 no, what he's saying there is for everything in our house. 485 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,400 So for me, that's everything in my house. 486 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,640 That's my children. 487 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,240 That's my livelihood. 488 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:32,160 That's everything that's in my house. 489 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,000 Everything in my house is contained here. 490 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,440 But what does he say? 491 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,720 Both morning, midday and evening, in other words, be in a constant state of crying out. 492 00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:42,080 That's the way I interpret that. 493 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,560 I like that, Scott. 494 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:51,920 Cry over your crops, cry over your flocks and pour out your souls in your closets and 495 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,440 your secret places. 496 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,440 Yeah. 497 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,800 And you, don't forget that crying to them against the power of your enemies. 498 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,200 And you said it earlier, you know, we think of enemies, you know, when I think of enemies 499 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,040 in the past, when I've read these scriptures, I thought about, oh yeah, those guys had enemies. 500 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,360 They were at war, you know. 501 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,360 We have enemies. 502 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,360 Yeah, I had an addiction. 503 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,360 Big time. 504 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,360 Yeah. 505 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:18,720 And they are the most subtle foes that we could ever, you know, face are the things 506 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:24,400 in our lives, the enemies in our lives, the addictions, the other things. 507 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,400 That we hang on to. 508 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,400 Ultimately Satan. 509 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,400 Yeah, exactly. 510 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:33,160 The devils that, that haunt all of us. 511 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,520 And he kind of ends in verse 27, yay. 512 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:42,920 And when you do not cry unto the Lord, even when you don't cry, even when you can't cry 513 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:51,360 out, let your hearts be full, drawn out in prayer unto him continually for your welfare 514 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,680 and also for the welfare of those who are around you. 515 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,920 Yeah. 516 00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,640 Just like the example we took back in Mosiah from those that weren't even allowed to pray 517 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:06,720 out loud, they were still drawn into a crying out just in the same way that was just, we 518 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,240 were just invited to there. 519 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,200 Yeah, absolutely. 520 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:16,840 And then, and then maybe a last one is Alma the younger and Alma 36. 521 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:23,360 And he's recounting Alma is recounting to his son Helaman, his experience, you know, 522 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,680 three days and three nights again when he was with the sons of Mosiah and he was persecuting 523 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:36,600 the church and the angel appears to him and and he talks about how he was wracked. 524 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,600 Talk about desperation, right? 525 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,960 He was wracked with the pains of a damn soul. 526 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:50,560 And so in verse 17, and it came to pass that as I was thus wracked with torment, while 527 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:58,720 I was herald up by the memory of my many sins, behold, I remember also to have heard my father 528 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:05,000 prophesy unto the people concerning the coming of one Jesus Christ, the Son of God, to atone 529 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,160 for the sins of the world. 530 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:14,200 Now as my mind caught hold upon this thought, I cried. 531 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,840 Remember he's dumb. 532 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,840 He's been struck dumb. 533 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,680 He can't even speak. 534 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,920 I cried within my heart. 535 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:34,000 Oh, Jesus, thou Son of God, have mercy on me who am in the gall of bitterness and am encircled 536 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,240 about by the everlasting chains of death. 537 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:46,000 And now behold, when I thought this, I could remember my pains no more. 538 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,000 Yeah, I was herald up by the memory of my sins no more. 539 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:57,240 And oh, what joy and what marvelous light I did behold. 540 00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:06,360 And my soul was filled with joy as exceeding as was my pain. 541 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,120 He cried within. 542 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,600 He couldn't speak. 543 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,520 He cried within his heart. 544 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,520 And what was his soul cry? 545 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:23,960 Oh, Jesus, thou Son of God, have mercy on me. 546 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:32,560 Holy Scott, I just think that is an event or part of the process of repentance that too 547 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,520 many of us just skip over. 548 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,440 We're doing everything except that. 549 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,080 And this is the core. 550 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:49,240 This is the absolute core of the process is to cry out. 551 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:54,000 It's repentance is not an institutional activity. 552 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,280 It's not about, we're going to talk about confession. 553 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,760 I know that's important. 554 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,200 I know that's part of the process. 555 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,440 We'll talk about the manifestations of repentance. 556 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,880 But that's what it is, is a manifestation of repentance. 557 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,920 It's not repentance itself. 558 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,280 This is the core of repentance. 559 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,200 To cry out. 560 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,800 This is not a simple, easy prayer. 561 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:27,600 This can be a painful experience and a sweet experience as we go through this process. 562 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:38,840 So I just really implore our listeners to evaluate their lives and to ask themselves, 563 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,560 when's the last time I cried out? 564 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,640 Have I ever cried out? 565 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:49,440 And to remember if they have cried out, to remember those experiences and to be able 566 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,520 to cry out more often. 567 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,520 Right. 568 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,160 It's not a one-time thing. 569 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,160 Not at all. 570 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,440 For probably most of us. 571 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,600 This is one of the things, Dave, and maybe you had the same experience when you were 572 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,880 teaching an institute on a full-time basis. 573 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:08,640 But this is one of the things that comes up as Deb and I are teaching Institute at BYU 574 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:16,120 right now that a lot of times the students will say to me or Deb, or each other even, 575 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,840 as we have conversation around it, is sometimes I just don't feel forgiven. 576 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,840 How can I know? 577 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,840 Right. 578 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,360 How can I feel forgiven? 579 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,080 Why am I not feeling forgiven? 580 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,560 I've done all the things. 581 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:33,280 I've checked all the, they don't say that, but that's what the connotation is, is I've 582 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,880 checked all the boxes. 583 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,040 I've taken all the steps. 584 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,840 Why am I not feeling forgiven? 585 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:44,760 And I think, I don't know if it's absolutely without exception, but I would dare say it's 586 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:50,040 probably without exception that we won't feel forgiven, or if we're not feeling forgiven 587 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,960 is maybe the better way to say that. 588 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:52,960 Spinning our wheels. 589 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,800 If I'm not feeling forgiven, I need to ask myself, have I cried out? 590 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,800 Right. 591 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:05,600 Have I experienced what I have just read as an example or a pattern by great righteous 592 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:11,320 men that I have been able to learn from, you know, these Restoration Scriptures, that alone 593 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:18,400 that we get from Restoration Scripture, David, is some of the most redeeming message, some 594 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,480 of the most redeeming love that we feel come from our Heavenly Father through this Restoration 595 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,600 Scripture, those stories that we've just told. 596 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:32,280 But we need to remember that if I'm not feeling forgiven, I should maybe ask myself, have I 597 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,280 cried out? 598 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,280 Yeah. 599 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:43,360 I just really, it's very humbling, Scott, to for me just sitting here thinking about 600 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:50,600 my own life, you know, and the times that I've cried out and the times that he has heard 601 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:59,320 me and sent his spirit and a confirmation to me that I have been forgiven or that my 602 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,640 efforts have been acceptable to him and where I stand with him. 603 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:11,240 I just think that's really important, almost redeeming knowledge for any individual to 604 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:12,480 receive. 605 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,680 And yet I don't think that I do it enough. 606 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,880 I don't think that most of us do. 607 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:24,000 And that it's something that you just, you can't just, it's not like just kneeling down 608 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,320 and saying a prayer. 609 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:31,880 And you just can't kind of go through the motions when you pray mightily and you cry 610 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,320 out. 611 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,000 It takes a real need, desire. 612 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:48,280 I love what was a Zenus again who talked about his sincerity that he did it with such sincerity. 613 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:54,800 It cannot be to manipulate the spirit or to, it can't be for show. 614 00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:01,720 It has to be really, it just really comes from the sincerity and the humility of a broken 615 00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:03,920 heart. 616 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:09,120 And we just don't do that enough. 617 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:15,320 I have an experience with this on October 24th, 1998. 618 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:23,000 I was in a rent delinquent department that I was renting, single, divorced. 619 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,080 My alcoholism was completely out of control. 620 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,240 I couldn't control how much I was consuming. 621 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:32,120 And if I wasn't consuming, I was no good. 622 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:39,000 And at that point, I had, without getting into the entire story, but at that point, 623 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:45,040 I had made several vain attempts to stop drinking, to stop this addiction. 624 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,360 And this addiction would apply to any addiction, I'm sure. 625 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:56,680 But that night, as I was trying, I was literally trying to drink myself to death. 626 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:04,200 And at some point, I just had a crying out experience too, you know, in that night. 627 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:10,600 That crying out was actually not the conclusion, but the beginning of my repentance process 628 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,600 too. 629 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:17,680 And so I think that it's important for us to understand that we will feel relief during 630 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,480 that crying out, but sometimes that crying out just puts us on the path to begin the 631 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,480 work as well. 632 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:32,040 Well, isn't that sweet that got answered your prayer through someone else? 633 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,480 And sometimes crying out leads to that. 634 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:41,480 And there's been multiple subsequent crying out since then along that process, you know, 635 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:48,520 25 almost years of sobriety and, you know, oftentimes for myself and oftentimes for others, 636 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:55,480 but nonetheless, you know, to for us to really gain the power of Jesus Christ in our lives 637 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:01,720 to help us with our repentance, to help us with any problem that we have, if we really 638 00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:09,200 understand this concept or this principle, and it's really more than a principle, it's 639 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,720 more than a concept. 640 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:12,800 It's so much more. 641 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:13,800 It's ineffable. 642 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,800 We can't. 643 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,760 I don't I don't have the ability to describe it in words. 644 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:25,280 But if we if we can, if we can understand or begin to understand or at least embrace 645 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:31,640 this crying out and this what this is is really the turning of our entire lives over the will 646 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,480 of God as we understand him. 647 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,800 Well that's the second. 648 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:41,760 So if we're describing at least the way I taught it, Scott, if we're describing the 649 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:51,000 two actions of repentance, the first is crying out mightily crying out. 650 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,400 And the second is described in Omni. 651 00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:01,360 And then you you talk about the addiction side of this, this scripture, but the end I can't 652 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,360 believe one year, one conference, one general conference, how many times this scripture 653 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,880 was quoted. 654 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:24,920 But in Omni verse 26, this describes the second act in the process of repentance that we call 655 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,760 the actions of repentance. 656 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:35,280 And now my beloved brethren, this is Omni one twenty six. 657 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:41,720 I would the he should come unto Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel and partake of his 658 00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:46,120 salvation and the power of his redemption. 659 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:57,840 Yay, come unto him and offer your whole souls as an offering unto him and continue in fasting 660 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,320 and praying and indoor to the end. 661 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:08,280 And as the Lord live, you will be saved. 662 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:16,080 It's this offering come to Christ and offer your whole soul unto him. 663 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,760 Now I know that these these two actions may be simultaneous as you started to describe 664 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:27,600 it that they may be almost simultaneous where we cry out and in our crying out we do offer 665 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,160 our whole souls. 666 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,520 We say I'll give everything. 667 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,680 I'll give all of my sins. 668 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,280 King Omni's father, I'll do. 669 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,200 I'll give you everything. 670 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,200 Right. 671 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:43,520 But sometimes we don't offer our soul. 672 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:54,440 It's this offering of our whole soul to him, Scott, this submissiveness, this sacrifice 673 00:47:54,440 --> 00:48:03,640 where we put our souls, our will on the altar and we're willing to sacrifice it. 674 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:09,320 This is this is the supreme act of the process of repentance. 675 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,320 Yeah. 676 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,680 You know, we talked about enemies, right? 677 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:17,720 And sometimes those enemies that we have in our own lives, those enemies being our addictions 678 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:23,960 or our habits or whatever sins, they become part of our soul. 679 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,600 You know, that's true. 680 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,160 And so putting that sometimes it gets pretty entangled. 681 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,160 It doesn't. 682 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,720 It really does. 683 00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:37,960 You know, and so I think, you know, as we begin this crying out process, I think I don't 684 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:44,840 think that we have the ability to lie our whole entire soul at any given time just on 685 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,840 our own. 686 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,360 Of course, with God, all things are possible. 687 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,980 We know that we see that we experience that and we're grateful for that. 688 00:48:51,980 --> 00:48:57,720 But I think sometimes that in our best attempts to lay our whole soul, that we have a discovery 689 00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:02,160 later that my soul is bigger than I thought it was because it includes all these other 690 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:07,440 things that I'm having a really difficult time laying on that altar as well. 691 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,760 You know, so the crying out is definitely the beginning of that process. 692 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:16,080 The laying of the soul is the second process, as you mentioned, but it is much more complex 693 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:22,760 in my the way I see it is much more complex than what first meets the eye in that verse. 694 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,280 Yeah, for sure. 695 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,000 I don't know if I can find it right off. 696 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:38,080 You know, but this this idea Scott was expressed by C. S. Lewis to some degree when he when 697 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:43,840 he talks about, you know, you, he's kind of describing Jesus. 698 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,920 Oh, here I think I found it. 699 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,640 He says, imagine yourself as a living house. 700 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,240 Imagine yourself as a living house. 701 00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:53,560 God comes in to rebuild that house. 702 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,360 At first, perhaps you can understand what he's doing. 703 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:03,280 He's getting the drains right and he's stopping the leaks in the roof and so on. 704 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,040 You knew that those jobs needed doing and so you are not surprised. 705 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:12,920 But presently, he starts knocking the house about in a way that hurts abominably and 706 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,320 does not seem to make any sense. 707 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,920 What on earth is he up to? 708 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,800 The explanation is that he is building quite a different house from the one you thought 709 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:27,040 of throwing out a new wing here, putting on an extra floor there, running up towers, making 710 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,160 courtyards. 711 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,480 You thought you were being made into a decent little cottage, but he's building a palace. 712 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,840 He intends to come and live in it himself. 713 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,640 You know, in another in another thought he talks about, I want all of you. 714 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,440 I don't want part of you. 715 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,920 I don't want this. 716 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,400 I want all of it. 717 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:55,080 That's what I think it means to give ourselves holy and our souls holy to him, which includes 718 00:50:55,080 --> 00:51:02,560 the sacrifice of our sins and our wills to God. 719 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,640 I think that we probably all heard that. 720 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,120 I love that about, imagine yourself a living house. 721 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,440 I hadn't heard that before. 722 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,920 I love that. 723 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:16,960 But I think that we've all had heard at least a version of give our whole selves to God. 724 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,320 And we're reluctant. 725 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:23,840 Our natural man in us makes us reluctant to do that because we don't think we should 726 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,120 be given our garbage to God. 727 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,320 You know, we should, we should become worthy and then give that soul to God. 728 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,560 That's not what God wants. 729 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:38,560 God wants all of us are broken stuff, our messy stuff, our sin stuff, our bad habits 730 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,560 and addictions. 731 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,560 He wants it all. 732 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,560 Yeah, absolutely. 733 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,080 I love that. 734 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:49,400 And I, I was recalling this morning President Nelson before he was President of the Church, 735 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,720 but he's President of the Coral of the Twelve. 736 00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:58,160 His amazing talk in April of 2017 in general conference entitled, Drawing the Power of 737 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,560 Jesus Christ into Our Lives. 738 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:09,720 I think this is a amazing classical talk that everyone should go back and study again. 739 00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:13,840 But I just wanted to refer to a few quotes in this. 740 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:19,760 He refers to the, to the woman who is desperate to be healed. 741 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,760 Right. 742 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,320 This again, quiet desperation, 12 years. 743 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,800 You know, she's had the issue of blood. 744 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:33,280 And she knows that if she can just, just touch even the hem of his garment, that she'll be 745 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,520 healed. 746 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,720 He says this, many of us have cried out. 747 00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:41,200 Here's that word again, that phrase, cried out. 748 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:47,560 Many of us have cried out from the depths of our hearts, a variation of this woman's 749 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,960 words. 750 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:54,920 If I could spiritually stretch enough to draw the Savior's power into my life, I would 751 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,680 know how to handle my heart-wrenching situation. 752 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,600 I would know what to do and I would have the power to do it. 753 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:11,840 When you reach up, stretch out for the Lord's power in your life with the same intensity 754 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:19,720 that a drowning person has when grasping and gasping for air, power from Jesus Christ will 755 00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:21,760 be yours. 756 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,920 When the Savior knows you truly want to reach up to Him, when He can feel that the greatest 757 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:34,160 desire of your heart is to draw His power into your life, you will be led by the Holy 758 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,680 Ghost to know exactly what you should do. 759 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:45,680 When you spiritually stretch beyond anything you have ever done, then His power will flow 760 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,960 into you. 761 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,760 That's an amazing, an amazing quote. 762 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,480 I was thinking this morning when I was reading it, I should put this in a plaque and frame 763 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,800 and put it on my wall. 764 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:06,520 When you spiritually stretch beyond anything you've ever done, then His power will flow 765 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,560 into you. 766 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,840 Which will give you peace, joy, forgiveness. 767 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,220 This is what it means. 768 00:54:15,220 --> 00:54:25,960 This is the core of repentance, this desire, this intense desire, like a drowning man desires 769 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:33,840 air to be forgiven and to know our standing before God. 770 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:39,120 And I just want to testify that I know that's possible. 771 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,960 I know how that feels. 772 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,880 I have experienced it in my life. 773 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:49,520 I haven't experienced it enough times as I should have. 774 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,760 I hope I experience it more. 775 00:54:52,760 --> 00:55:01,760 But Scott, I know it's true and I know that we live far beneath our privileges sometimes. 776 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:10,120 And sometimes we do everything else but cry out and offer our whole souls to God. 777 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,640 This is the core of what it means to repent. 778 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:21,920 So I hope our listeners will just, I invite them, you might have an invitation, Scott, 779 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:26,480 but I hope that we'll all evaluate our lives. 780 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:37,160 And as we do and as we seek prayer and revelation by the Spirit, it will come to us to know 781 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:45,000 the place and the time when we can have this experience in our lives over and over and 782 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,000 over again. 783 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,320 Because while it is an event, this is an event. 784 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:59,480 I know that oftentimes we just say, we kind of say it flippantly that repentance is a 785 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,480 process. 786 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,160 Well, I know that. 787 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:09,840 But this is an event that is part of the process and it should be an event that we experience 788 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:17,800 over and over and over again in the process of repentance, of crying out, offering our 789 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:23,960 whole souls and receiving His power into our lives. 790 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,560 Here, I love your invitation, Dave. 791 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:32,280 That invitation, I think, is one that we should all very seriously consider. 792 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:38,680 You know, I'm big on taking a personal inventory and I think that if we could do a personal 793 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:47,080 inventory around that topic, around crying out, when do I, when have I, when should I? 794 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,920 And really, you know, I don't want to prescribe exactly how that should look like. 795 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:59,080 But what I would, again, is just to reemphasize Dave's invitation to consider that, to understand 796 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,080 that. 797 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,320 When was it the last time? 798 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,800 Or when have we had the opportunity? 799 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,760 Or what should we be crying out over? 800 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:11,480 And you know, maybe even pray for inspiration and revelation in our own lives as to what 801 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,520 that would look like. 802 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:19,760 For those of us who don't think we feel forgiven, for those of us who don't think that we have 803 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,360 the Spirit in our lives. 804 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,160 This really is maybe a great step in order to accomplish that. 805 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,040 And something that I would also invite us to do. 806 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,040 We look forward to being with you next week. 807 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,240 And until then, remember that you have been redeemed through His blood. 808 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:51,400 Thanks again for being with us.