1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,560 Well, welcome back to another episode of Redeemed Through His Blood. 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,020 My name's Scott Durfey. 3 00:00:17,020 --> 00:00:18,540 First welcome you out today. 4 00:00:18,540 --> 00:00:20,840 Joined as always by my good friend Dave Durfey. 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,840 What's up Dave? 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:22,840 Good to be here Scott. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:23,840 We're in the heart of it here. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:29,840 We're in the heart of how can we, how can we repent and draw close to it? 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:35,600 And closer to our Savior and, you know, we really, we really kind of start turning the 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:41,040 key, you know, through this repentance process, the key to unlocking the blessings that come 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,880 to us through the Atonement of Jesus Christ and the power that comes from Jesus Christ. 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,880 Yeah, exactly. 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,600 And, you know, last week we talked about, spent a lot of time on what repentance is 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,600 not. 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,880 I think that's probably always an eye opener for a lot of us, certainly. 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,160 And when you know what it's not, you have a pretty good idea what it is. 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,200 Well it definitely makes it easier to understand and comprehend what it is. 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,080 So that's what we're going to talk about today, Dave. 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,080 Let's dive in. 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Well, so we've, we've covered the foundations. 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,920 Remember the four parts of repentance. 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,720 At least this is how I see it and how I've taught it is that we have the foundations of 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,760 repentance, which includes understanding the Atonement of Jesus Christ, which includes 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:29,960 a definition of repentance that we're working off of, what it's not, and understanding what 25 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:32,960 it is. 26 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:35,720 Those all make up the foundations of repentance. 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,760 All the background that we've gone up to now, knowing who you are and knowing your relationship 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:45,520 to Jesus and that we belong to Him and that He died for us and that He owns us, that through 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,080 His blood He purchased us. 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,440 All of that, Scott, is part of the foundations of repentance. 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,960 It might be good to note too that, you know, it's foundational for a reason, right? 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,800 If we don't have this down, if this isn't the basis from where we begin to build our 33 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,640 relationship and are qualifying for the blessings that come to us through Christ's power, through 34 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,120 His Atonement, if we don't have this foundation built, then the rest of it's really on kind 35 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,800 of shaky footing as we go forward. 36 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,600 In fact, Scott, thank you for saying that because it's really true. 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:25,320 And I would even go so far as to say that usually my experience is, is that people who 38 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:31,160 are not able to truly repent, meaning they begin the process and they see it through 39 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,440 the end and they know that they're forgiven, they've been forgiven of the Lord, they feel 40 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,400 redeemed of the Lord Jesus Christ. 41 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:46,760 Actually the reason that is, is not because they haven't followed the process of repentance, 42 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:54,640 meaning the actual work in repentance, but they have somehow failed in laying the foundation 43 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:57,120 of repentance. 44 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:04,040 I honestly, I think I've told so many priesthood leaders in training meetings that I've done 45 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:11,160 and, and, and so many students who have come to me and wondered why they've done everything 46 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,280 they can, they still don't feel forgiven, had so many missionaries at the missionary 47 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:21,000 training center who came in there and would work their guts out to repent and they still 48 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,600 didn't feel forgiven. 49 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,920 Honestly I, by far the majority. 50 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:33,760 The reason that was the case, because they had a crack in the foundation of repentance, 51 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:42,800 there was something not that they had missed, misunderstood, they didn't know really the 52 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,600 atonement of Jesus Christ. 53 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,040 I know the atonement of Jesus Christ is incomprehensible, I don't comprehend it, but you, you need 54 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:55,720 to understand the basic doctrine, right, of redemption and the plan and how it works and 55 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:02,440 where we stand in relationship to the Savior and, and what he did as much as we can't comprehend 56 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,680 it at least. 57 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:09,640 If you don't understand that and you don't have the foundation solid underneath you, 58 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:15,240 you really will never probably work out your repentance and at least finish it where you 59 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,640 feel that you, that you really are forgiven. 60 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:26,280 Anyway, or have the faith necessary, I think faith is a foundational piece of repentance. 61 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:29,120 Faith is knowing that you have faith in Christ. 62 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,440 Well that's why we spent three whole podcasts, I think it was talking about faith, was to 63 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,880 prepare us to begin to put the mortar and the bricks together for this foundation. 64 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:46,120 If you don't have faith in Christ first and your faith is insufficient, repentance will 65 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,680 not ever be really completed. 66 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:50,680 Right. 67 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,560 And there won't be any power in it. 68 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,000 And we've talked a lot about that. 69 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,200 Well so let's move on to the conditions of repentance. 70 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:03,400 The conditions of repentance, Scott, it's an interesting phrase that's unique in the 71 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,040 Book of Mormon and it appears five times. 72 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:14,440 And five has always kind of been the number that symbolizes the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. 73 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:22,200 And it appears five times in the Book of Mormon and Dr. and Cumbins combined the conditions 74 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,480 of repentance. 75 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:34,880 So as I've studied it and as I've discussed it with Elder Anderson and others, the conditions 76 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:42,000 of repentance are summarized in Elder Anderson's book in Chapter 15 and he chose to call that 77 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:53,920 chapter the three beloved friends we meet early on the journey to forgiveness. 78 00:05:53,920 --> 00:06:03,400 These three beloved friends as Elder Anderson chooses to call them are a broken heart, contrite 79 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,800 spirit and godly sorrow. 80 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:15,640 These are the conditions of repentance, Scott, for one to try to confess or go through the 81 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:29,280 motions or do to repent at all without having a real need, a real desire, even yearning. 82 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:33,760 If you haven't experienced a broken heart and a contrite spirit, I don't think it's 83 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,600 possible to really even begin to repent. 84 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,240 You may try, but it won't be very effective. 85 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:50,320 And I think to really appreciate that one must appreciate again what our sins have cost 86 00:06:50,320 --> 00:07:00,520 Jesus Christ, what our sins cost God, what he was willing to suffer and how lovingly, 87 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:08,640 how kindly, mercifully he paid for our sins and met the demands of justice. 88 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:17,080 You know, Alma, I love the discourse of Alma to his son, Cory, I'm sorry, to his son, 89 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,080 Cory, yeah, Cory in the Book of Mormon. 90 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:26,640 If you have a wayward child, if you have a wayward child and you're kind of struggling 91 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:35,440 with a child, this is a great manual, I think, to know how to handle that. 92 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,640 Alma teaches doctrine, right? 93 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:44,880 He teaches doctrine and the reason he teaches doctrine to Cory and after committing fornication 94 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:50,880 on his mission being sent home, son of the prophet has sent home from his mission after 95 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,960 chasing the harlot. 96 00:07:52,960 --> 00:08:04,080 But we have this unbelievable chapter 39 40 41 and 42 about a prophet and more important 97 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:11,560 a father teaching his son and a member of the Church of Christ how to work out their 98 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,880 repentance. 99 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:20,520 I've always loved this and I've always seen it as the process to help others. 100 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:27,800 And it's so interesting that he calls him out early on in chapter 39 Scott to help him 101 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,640 understand the importance of his sins. 102 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:36,000 I mean, and the whole reason he does this is to bring about a broken heart and contrite 103 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,000 spirit. 104 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,680 So what does he do right off the bat? 105 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:43,760 Well, right off the bat, he says, I want to tell you about the seriousness of your sin. 106 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,960 And he goes right through the three most serious sins. 107 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:53,080 And the only reason he talks about the sin, he doesn't, he doesn't jump to jump to Jesus 108 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,680 right away. 109 00:08:54,680 --> 00:09:02,640 He talks about the sin and how serious it is and all of that to help him to help him 110 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,320 understand what he's done wrong. 111 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:14,320 And then not only is it the sin in and of itself that Coriant has to repent of and should 112 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,800 have an experience have experienced broken heart over, but it's also the effects of 113 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,880 his sin. 114 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:29,600 So chapter 39 is so great on this and we won't read a lot of verses here, but I think maybe 115 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,880 we should read this. 116 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,280 Scott, if you would start with verse nine, let's read a few verses. 117 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,320 Now my son, I would that she should repent and forsake your sins and go no more after 118 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,240 the lusts of your eyes, but cross yourself in all things. 119 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,320 Cross yourself in all these things. 120 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,720 Discipline yourself. 121 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,360 Yeah. 122 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,600 Cross yourself in all these things. 123 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,600 Yeah. 124 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,200 The footnote from there is self mastery. 125 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:04,040 So I think that that's really, you know, what's being meant there is to get a hold of your 126 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:09,680 emotions, take charge of your own, of your own feelings and thoughts, right? 127 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:16,360 Cross yourself in and see yourself, see yourself, where who you really are and where you stand 128 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,960 in relationship to save you. 129 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,320 Anyway, I always love to, to play with words, you know, cross yourself. 130 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:27,560 Well, that can mean take upon you the cross, you know, go to the foot of the cross too. 131 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:28,880 I believe it's that too, Scott. 132 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:29,880 I do too. 133 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,880 Okay. 134 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:31,880 All right. 135 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:32,880 Let me just start over. 136 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,560 Now my son, I would that this is verse nine of chapter 39 of Alma in the Book of Mormon. 137 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:41,440 Now my son, I would that you should repent and forsake your sins and go no more after 138 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,760 the lusts of your eyes, but cross yourself in all these things for except you do this, 139 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,440 you can and no wise inherit the kingdom of God. 140 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,720 Oh, remember and take it upon you and cross yourself in these things. 141 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:02,160 And I command you to take it upon you to counsel with your elder brothers in your undertakings 142 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:08,640 for behold thou art in thy youth and ye stand in need to be nourished by your brothers and 143 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,040 give heed to their counsel. 144 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,920 Suffer not yourself to be led away by any vain or foolish things. 145 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,720 Suffer not the devil to lead away your heart again after those wicked harlots. 146 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:26,440 Behold, oh my son, how great iniquity you brought upon the Zoramites for when they saw 147 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,280 your conduct, they would not believe in my words. 148 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:38,040 So Alma is trying really hard as a dad to help Coriant understand the seriousness of 149 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:47,200 his choices and his actions and to really feel some godly sorrow here. 150 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Then he and he does a great job of it. 151 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:56,960 And I think that sometimes and he does, he's not, he's not angry. 152 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,240 He's not out of control. 153 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:05,560 He's not disgusted or any of that with his son, Scott. 154 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:08,680 He's trying to help his son. 155 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:11,480 He hasn't taken it personal. 156 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,880 It's obvious to me at least reading this. 157 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,800 He hasn't taken it personal. 158 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:23,480 And he wants to have his son see it as it really is. 159 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:30,000 Why not for his sake Alma, the father, not for the family, not even for the church's 160 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:38,520 sake, but he wants him to understand where he stands in relationship, Corey, where Coriant 161 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:47,120 stands in relationship to Jesus Christ and the personal harm that he's caused to himself 162 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:54,480 is a relationship with the Savior and the harm that he has caused to his family and church. 163 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,080 Both all of that. 164 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:07,280 Well, when when one begins to see all of that as it really is, our hearts begin to be broken. 165 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:13,440 And then in chapter 40, he immediately begins to teach doctrine and he teaches the doctrine 166 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,720 that they there's going to be a judgment. 167 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:17,720 There's Coriant. 168 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:23,560 I want you to know you're there's a resurrection and you're going to face God and there's going 169 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:25,760 to be a judgment. 170 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:31,720 He goes right to the heart of the the issue of why we repent and why we have the gospel 171 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:37,080 and why Jesus Christ came to the earth and died and suffered for us. 172 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,920 And he gets it right. 173 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:44,360 The classic in chapter 41 and wickedness never was happiness. 174 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:50,640 I mean, he's really, he's really doing the best he can to help his son understand. 175 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:57,800 And then chapter 42, he brings it all home by really teaching the mercy, the grace, the 176 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:06,160 power, the cleansing and healing of the atonement of Jesus Christ and that Jesus Christ was 177 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,160 punished. 178 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:14,720 Ultimately, Jesus Christ was punished by his sins for the consequences of his sins that 179 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:24,480 God himself, this is in verse 15, that God himself atoneth for the sins of the world 180 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:31,960 to bring about the plan of mercy and to demand and to appease the demands of justice. 181 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:37,240 And all of this and the last right towards the end of this amazing. 182 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,720 I'd like to know how we got a recording of this guy. 183 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:46,600 I just love how ever we got a recording of this, if this was written down by Alma, which 184 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:53,160 it must have been, but I'm just so grateful we have this interchange between a father, 185 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,080 prophet and son. 186 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,080 Let's read verse 30 and maybe I'll read it. 187 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Oh, my son. 188 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:10,820 I desire that he should deny the justice of God no more. 189 00:15:10,820 --> 00:15:19,840 Do not endeavor to excuse yourself in the least point because of your sins by denying 190 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,640 the justice of God. 191 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:31,920 But do, but do you let the justice of God and his mercy and his long suffering have full 192 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:44,240 sway in your heart and let it bring you down to the dust in humility. 193 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:49,760 That's this whole, this whole effort of Alma. 194 00:15:49,760 --> 00:16:00,320 Scott is to help help Corianton meet the conditions of repentance, broken heart, contrite spirit, 195 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,800 godly sorrow. 196 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,640 And apparently does a pretty good job because Corianton will later we know go on a mission 197 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,160 and have much success and goes back out on his mission. 198 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,080 So I'm just really thankful for that. 199 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:21,480 And I think it's a great example of how we can again, not, not out of disgust, not out 200 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,480 of anger. 201 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,800 It can't, it must be, it must be, it must come from a pure and humble heart that we try 202 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:35,560 to help our children and others who we love to understand what their sins have cost a 203 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:42,640 God, a God, a toneth for their sins that he was punished and suffered for all of their 204 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:48,880 sins and that there is a just God and there is justice, Scott. 205 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,480 We can't understand mercy. 206 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:57,120 I think too many times people just want to immediately go to the mercy. 207 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:02,240 If you, if you immediately go to mercy and you don't talk about the justice of God and 208 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:09,160 the, the judgment of God and the plan of God and you, you don't talk about the laws of 209 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,040 God and the consequences of breaking those laws. 210 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:18,080 If you just want to talk about the love and mercy of God before you do all that, then 211 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,680 you skip the conditions that must be meant in order to truly repent. 212 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,680 And that's important. 213 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,760 It's important that we do understand the love and mercy, but you know, sometimes we 214 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,720 just look for an easy button. 215 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,040 You know, we're just looking for the easy way. 216 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,040 Comfortable. 217 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,040 Yeah. 218 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,720 And, you know, in our colleagues, anonymous, we call it many of a sudden easier, softer 219 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,800 way. 220 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,000 There you go. 221 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,640 And that easier, softer way affords us really nothing. 222 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:51,160 But you know, it is important that we do understand the love and mercy that comes, but it's also 223 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:57,640 important that we understand that that love and mercy comes as we understand our own nothingness. 224 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:04,120 You know, and the sins which have separated separate and our attitudes and our behaviors 225 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:08,360 and all other things that separate us from the spirit as we participate in that second 226 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:12,480 part of the death of the spiritual death that comes because of the false. 227 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,000 So super important. 228 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,520 I'm glad you brought that up. 229 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:20,560 Well, this, this is a theme throughout the Book of Mormon, of course. 230 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:25,920 You know, sweet King Benjamin sure lays it on his people, right? 231 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:26,920 Yeah. 232 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:27,920 It calls them unworthy creatures. 233 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,920 And this is after they've repented. 234 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:29,920 Yeah. 235 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:30,920 And he calls them unworthy creatures. 236 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,440 Wants them to understand their own nothingness. 237 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,440 Exactly. 238 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,440 Exactly. 239 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,400 So it's, it's really important, I think, that we understand our nothingness, that we 240 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:47,040 can merit nothing of ourselves and to understand God is a God of law, not just a God of love, 241 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:54,560 but he is a God of justice, not just a God of mercy, that mercy can't rob justice and 242 00:18:54,560 --> 00:19:03,120 that there will be a judgment and that our sins not only hurt us, but you cannot sin 243 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:09,840 in a bubble because every time you sin, you're hurting others. 244 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,120 You're hurting your family. 245 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:12,320 You're hurting your friends. 246 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,080 You're, you're hurting anyone that you associate with because you don't have the spirit that 247 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,440 you could have had or should have had or would have had if you wouldn't have sinned. 248 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:31,600 And ultimately, the ultimate pain of our sins were heaped upon and suffered by Jesus Christ. 249 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:37,760 If that doesn't cause a broken heart and contrite spirit, then we don't do, we cannot meet the 250 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:45,240 demands or we can't, I'm sorry, meet the conditions or fulfill the conditions of repentance. 251 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:53,200 Let's go to 3rd Nephi chapter 9, popular scripture that I think references this. 252 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,120 Jesus is speaking here. 253 00:19:56,120 --> 00:20:02,080 This is after the great destruction of all the cities right before he comes to the people 254 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:09,920 in Bountiful, the 2500 who are waiting there and at the temple and have the experience 255 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,280 of greeting their savior and filling the prince of the nails in his hands and feet. 256 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,080 And coming out of the darkness, right? 257 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,680 As they do that, right? 258 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,280 So let's read verses 18 through 20, Scott. 259 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,200 I am the light and the life of the world. 260 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,200 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. 261 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,440 And you shall offer up unto me no more the shedding of blood. 262 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,480 Yea, your sacrifices and your burnt offerings shall be done away. 263 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,360 For I will accept none of your sacrifices and your burnt offerings. 264 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:47,480 And you shall offer for a sacrifice unto me a broken heart and a contrite spirit. 265 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:53,320 And whoso cometh unto me with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, him will I baptize 266 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:58,880 with fire and with the Holy Ghost, even as the Lamanites, because of their faith in me 267 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,240 at the time of their conversion were baptized with the fire and with the Holy Ghost. 268 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,320 And they knew it not. 269 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,720 That's really a powerful verse. 270 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,400 Verse 20. 271 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:16,920 We are commanded to stop the sacrifice of animals, which we're all symbolic of the 272 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,280 Savior's sacrifice of blood. 273 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:29,400 We are now commanded that the offering or the sacrifice we must make is to put our own 274 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:37,120 will on the altar and to have a broken heart and a contrite spirit. 275 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:39,480 That's the sacrifice we must make. 276 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:44,480 And it's amazing to me that in this verse he says, and if you do just those two things, 277 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,960 if you just have a broken heart and contrite spirit, then I will give you the baptism 278 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,880 of fire and the Holy Ghost. 279 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:59,400 I mean, Scott, really, if we could meet the conditions of repentance, if we had a sufficient 280 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:04,600 broken heart and contrite spirit, we would do anything it took. 281 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,920 We would definitely go through all of the actions. 282 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:15,080 We would experience all of the manifestations and receive all of the blessings of the Atonement 283 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,080 of Jesus Christ in our life. 284 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,600 Forgiveness, peace, all of the fruits of that. 285 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,640 It's really, really critical. 286 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:34,160 So I want to emphasize again, if we would just meet the conditions of repentance, repentance 287 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,800 just naturally takes place in our life. 288 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,300 You want to read the next two verses? 289 00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:39,300 Yeah, I sure do. 290 00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:42,840 Because they talk about redemption and repentance as well. 291 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:43,840 Exactly. 292 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,560 And this is the, it's all important, but this is really the message here. 293 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,560 Behold. 294 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,240 This is 3rd Nephi 9, verse 21. 295 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,560 And remember, this is Jesus Christ speaking to those people. 296 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:59,360 He says, Behold, I have come into the world to bring redemption unto the world, to save 297 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,160 the world from sin. 298 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,760 Therefore, whoso repented and cometh unto me as a little child, him will I receive for 299 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,080 such as the kingdom of God. 300 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,040 Behold, for such I have laid down my life. 301 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,920 Let me read that again. 302 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:21,640 For behold, for such, in other words, those that come unto him as a little child, behold, 303 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,280 for such I have laid down my life and have taken it up again. 304 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:32,360 For repent and come unto me, ye ends of the earth, and be saved. 305 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:36,560 Well, there's a lot that could be said in there. 306 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,280 Last week we read the scripture from Dr. and Covenants section 10 that says that those 307 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:47,160 who repent are those who determine the Lord's church, right? 308 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:54,080 And in here it says, if you repent, become like a child, you are the kingdom of God. 309 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,640 I've been thinking, Scott, about. 310 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:03,640 I heard several years ago it was in the video on the special witnesses, the apostles, bearing 311 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,640 their testimonies. 312 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:11,760 Then Elder Bednar, such a powerful thing that's always stuck with me. 313 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:19,120 He compared the church to kind of a service center, an automotive service center. 314 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:23,720 And he said, you know, the church is not the showroom. 315 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,800 The church is not where you have all the pretty cars that are shiny and where all the floors 316 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,240 are polished and everything and everything looks so great. 317 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,200 And you know, that's not the church. 318 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,720 The church is not the showroom. 319 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,320 The church is the service department. 320 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:47,600 The church is where it's dirty, where it's where people are getting fixed, where people 321 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,160 are being healed, where people are being made whole again. 322 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,920 That's the church. 323 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,800 Elder Maxwell compared it to a hospital. 324 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,000 You know, the church is a hospital. 325 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:05,480 The church is, in essence, Scott, the church is those who are repented. 326 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,880 The church is not those who go there who don't need the sacrament. 327 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,160 The church is not the 99 who think they need no repentance. 328 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:20,320 The church is not those who can go, who even think that they can go one week without sinning 329 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,880 or one day or without sinning. 330 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,800 The church is those who are repenting. 331 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,000 The church is not a museum for saints, but a hospital for sinners. 332 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:37,840 And in order to be repenting, Scott, we need to understand that we're sinners. 333 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,840 That's right. 334 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,040 Sinners helping sinners. 335 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:45,680 A sinner, a saint is a sinner who just keeps on trying. 336 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:54,000 We need to know that and yet not become desensitized by it, not become desensitized by our sins. 337 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:02,240 We need to meet the conditions of repentance with a broken heart, a truly broken heart, 338 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:07,960 a contrite spirit, and experience godly sorrow. 339 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,280 I shared this with Elder Anderson. 340 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,720 He actually put it in the book. 341 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,840 Since I had it at the missionary training center years ago as a branch president, I 342 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:24,400 had this one missionary who had come in to confess his sins as many of them would do. 343 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,200 I would say about 20 to 30% was my experience. 344 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:35,200 Missionaries would come in with confessions, either belated sins or else old sins they had 345 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,760 repented they had tried to repent of or confessed to previous priesthood leaders, but didn't 346 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:47,440 fail forgiven, I mean, it was a big part of, well, and I'm sure it still is, a big part 347 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,640 of branch president's job at the missionary training centers to help individuals understand 348 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,640 repentance. 349 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,120 And that's kind of where my whole odyssey with this principle began. 350 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:06,920 Well, not really, I began when I was a missionary, but this is where it really became more refined. 351 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,720 The missionary came in and said, well, let's just make this short. 352 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,480 I've done everything. 353 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,160 I said, okay, what does everything mean? 354 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:23,000 Well, everything, I've done everything, he said. 355 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,120 And that's where he wanted to leave it. 356 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:28,800 And I said, Elder, it would really help me if you could tell me some of the things that 357 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,040 you're talking about that you're trying to repent of. 358 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,640 Well, I've done everything. 359 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,240 Drugs, sex, everything. 360 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,320 I said, so you've participated with drugs illegally. 361 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,840 Yes, you've lost your virtue, your chastity. 362 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,840 Yes, yes. 363 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,240 Anyway, he'd done it. 364 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,160 He pretty much had done everything. 365 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:07,100 And so I listened to all this and he wasn't, it was obviously had an experience broken 366 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,560 heart contract spirit. 367 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:17,120 And to contrast that missionary, Scott, I think I've told this before, but the missionary 368 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:23,200 that came in and wanted to confess his sins and he couldn't hardly talk and he didn't 369 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,400 talk for about five minutes. 370 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,960 And he just sat there and cried with his head down. 371 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:35,040 And I remember that little puddle, there was a little dark spot on my carpet because in 372 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:40,480 my office at the missionary training center from this missionary weeping and tears just 373 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,520 running off his nose onto a little spot on my carpet. 374 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,920 I remember you talking about that little spot on your carpet. 375 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,760 And that became really kind of sacred. 376 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,280 That is a sacred little place, isn't it? 377 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,080 It became a, it was like a little soul ring there. 378 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,800 I mean, it was just, I, oh, anyway, contrast those two. 379 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:07,320 And that missionary hadn't done anything serious enough to be sent home for, but this missionary 380 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,640 had done everything and didn't really feel any godly sorrow. 381 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:18,480 So I, after listening to him and having somewhat of a discussion, I finally said to him, so 382 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,800 elder, do you have a temple recommend? 383 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,800 Yes. 384 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,680 I said, you should have never received that. 385 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,200 You should have never gone to the temple. 386 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,840 Give me your temple recommend. 387 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,460 You can't go to the temple. 388 00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:34,020 And that kind of shocked him. 389 00:29:34,020 --> 00:29:35,520 Take out his temple recommend. 390 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,640 I was well and handed to me and I said, and I don't want you taking the sacrament today. 391 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,920 You are not worthy to take the sacrament. 392 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,920 And that shocked him. 393 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,720 That a missionary at the MTC can't take the sacrament. 394 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,360 He knew he was going to be embarrassed and he was worried about that. 395 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,120 We talked about that. 396 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,240 And then I said, and I, I'm going to call the brother in this, the way we did it back 397 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,600 in when I was a branch president there. 398 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,280 And he said, I'm going to call the brother and I'm sure they're going to send you home. 399 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,400 Well that really got to him and he was, that made him mad. 400 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,600 They're going to send me home. 401 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,880 I quit my job. 402 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:20,040 I'm, I'm, I'm, and he went off on all the reasons why he shouldn't be sent home. 403 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,080 And I said, yeah, they're going to send you home. 404 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:31,240 Anyway, I found out the next day or the next few days after that he was going to be sent 405 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,040 home and I went over and told him that. 406 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:41,640 And then I, they made travel arrangements and so the day he was to fly home, I think 407 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:49,560 he was from somewhere in Missouri and I went over to do an exit interview and he had put 408 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,840 his earring back in his ear. 409 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,320 He had had it with him on his mission. 410 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,320 Yeah. 411 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,320 Okay. 412 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,320 Yeah. 413 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,720 Brought it with him, I guess is a token or symbol of his past. 414 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,720 I don't know. 415 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120 But now, now his earring was back in his ear. 416 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,880 We talked about weapons of rebellion not that long ago. 417 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,720 That might have been one of those. 418 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,480 He, he was in his P day clothing. 419 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:20,840 He put up his suit, all of that, you know, I was a little shocked, but that's the way 420 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:26,640 he came down to my office to have an exit interview to be registered before he was to 421 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,080 go back to the airport. 422 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:38,560 And I looked at this, this struggling young man and, and my, my heart really went out 423 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,560 to him. 424 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:45,840 I was really concerned for him and I really wanted him to come back to the missionary training 425 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,840 center. 426 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:54,160 So I asked him, the elder, do you even want to come back to the missionary training center? 427 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,960 Do you even have a desire to come back here? 428 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,120 After you work out your repentance? 429 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,120 I don't know. 430 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,680 He said, I don't know. 431 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:12,280 And I felt impressed to say, well, elder, you can never come back here. 432 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,160 And that got his attention. 433 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:24,320 I said, elder, you can never come back here until you have experienced a broken heart 434 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,000 and contrite spirit. 435 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:35,240 And when you have experienced that, you will crawl to come back here. 436 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:41,280 I remember he looked up at me and Scott, I'll never forget the sincerity, the flip. 437 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:47,720 There was, there's just a, he had immediately kind of had a flip and he was so sincere. 438 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:53,960 And he asked me an inspired question, which I think was directed by the spirit for him 439 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,440 to ask. 440 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:05,560 And he said, well, tell me, president, how can I break my own heart? 441 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,160 I'd never been asked that question. 442 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,120 We talk so much about broken heart and contrite spirit. 443 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,080 And you know, it's, it's so hard to describe, right? 444 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,320 How do I do that? 445 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,120 How do I experience that? 446 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:22,160 And I, by the spirit knew what to say to him. 447 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:29,360 And I've always cherished this moment, knowing that it was a revelation. 448 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:37,360 And I said to him, elder, you can never come back here until you have a contrite heart 449 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,480 or a broken heart and contrite spirit. 450 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:46,720 And you will never have a broken heart and contrite spirit until you understand what 451 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:58,760 your sins cost a God and what he was willing to do for you because he loved you. 452 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:04,840 When you understand that, you'll be able to come back here. 453 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,280 And I hope that you will. 454 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,280 Well he went home. 455 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:16,000 I remember calling almost every Sunday after that, calling his home and asking where he 456 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,760 was. 457 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:25,200 And he's got, I'm so happy to say, you know, that he was, he went through a deep, difficult 458 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:31,120 repentance and his priesthood leaders were wonderful in working with him, his bishop, 459 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:37,280 his stake president and following up with him and trying to help him. 460 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:45,080 And he read the Book of Mormon, I think three or four times when he was home and took notes 461 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,240 and did all of that. 462 00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:53,960 And before he came back and when he came back, oh, wow, he was, he was different. 463 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,920 He was powerful. 464 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:05,520 So I hope that our listeners and that all of us ourselves include Scott that will never 465 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:15,240 become desensitized by our sins, but that will really appreciate what our sins cost 466 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:18,040 a God, our savior and redeemer. 467 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:29,040 When we experience that, we will just automatically meet the conditions of repentance and then 468 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,560 everything else just, just flows. 469 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,840 We would, we would crawl to the bishop's office. 470 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,680 We would do whatever it took if that's what it took in order to repent. 471 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:46,240 So understanding the conditions of repentance are really important that we're not sorry 472 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:55,360 because of the world or because we got caught or because we're in trouble or any of that. 473 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:04,480 But because we have sinned against God and because we caused a God to bleed from every 474 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:13,560 poor, so great was his anguish because of his love for his people, us. 475 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,280 And when, when we do that, repentance is a joy, really. 476 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,880 I mean, it's not easy, not comfortable. 477 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:31,080 It's none of that, but we feel the spirit of it and we can, we can do whatever it takes 478 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,080 to be able to end the other. 479 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:38,520 One of the other, I think important conditions is that we have to be really honest with ourselves 480 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,800 and with others in doing that. 481 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,720 So those are the conditions of repentance. 482 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:44,720 Scott. 483 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:48,840 That second one, you know, to be honest with yourself and others. 484 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:56,120 This is something that I think is, can be a big stumbling block or a roadblock or a barrier 485 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:01,960 because, you know, we live in a world where, you know, a Facebook, I mean, it's going to 486 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:08,240 call it a Facebook world or Instagram world where we want to put our best selves out to 487 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:09,800 the world. 488 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,480 And because of that, we create masks, so to speak. 489 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,120 We want to appear as though something. 490 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:22,400 And that's not just true with our secular lives, but that can also be true with our 491 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,200 spiritual lives, Dave. 492 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:29,040 You know, that can be something that because of expectations of family members, of our 493 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:35,400 parents, of our siblings, of our others that we love and, and revere and look up to, you 494 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:41,640 know, because we're weak and we sometimes are going to have weaknesses that weakness 495 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:46,440 will show up because of the fall of Adam and Eve, but that weakness will show up. 496 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:51,480 And sometimes when it does because of our embarrassment, because of our mask that we 497 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:57,520 have created or have even in many cases been assisted to create by those that love us, 498 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,200 meaningful people in our lives. 499 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:07,320 But that that part about being honest, you know, in recovery groups and alcoholics anonymous, 500 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:13,320 we strut stress and have to stress so it's so important that we understand that it's 501 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,640 only through rigorous honesty. 502 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:28,440 And I love that adjective, rigorous honesty, deep and constant inventory of ourselves. 503 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:34,400 We do a step 10 where we constantly take inventory and when we're wrong promptly admit it. 504 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,520 All of these things require deep, rigorous honesty. 505 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,040 You know, Shakespeare said, to thine own self be true. 506 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:49,480 And if we're if we're really true to ourselves, Heavenly Father and through his spirit can 507 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:57,720 then help us to understand and see where our honesty may be lacking in this regard and 508 00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:04,280 give us give us footing from which now we can begin to move towards a more repentant 509 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:10,760 and a more fulfilling and a more complete merciful exchange of love with our Heavenly 510 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,760 Father. 511 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,520 And how do we get there, Scott? 512 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,040 So just how do we get there? 513 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:22,160 Because I am Elder Anderson had shared with me a book of hundreds of stories that he 514 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:28,160 had collected that he had asked members of the 70 mission presidents and others to share 515 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:36,600 with him as he had contemplated for several years to to write to write this book. 516 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,600 And he shared those with me. 517 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,560 He said, go through and let's see if there's some really great ones that we should that 518 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,040 we should put into the book. 519 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:49,000 And so I went through all those and I categorized them and I really I really studied them and 520 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,080 and broke them down. 521 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:58,120 And it was obvious to me, Scott, in reading those that so many of those were they were 522 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,120 all wonderful. 523 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,400 I mean, they were all all touching and and great. 524 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:11,920 But not enough times was the Savior, the focus and the center of their repentance. 525 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:17,800 And not enough times did they talk about what it did or it was obvious they didn't really 526 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:23,760 understand what a broken heart and a contrite spirit was and how they had gotten there too 527 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,160 much of the time. 528 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:30,760 And many of these were again, individuals who were preparing to go on missions or weren't 529 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,560 able to go on missions or were sent home for missions or and others. 530 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,240 But so many times it was the embarrassment. 531 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:39,240 You could. 532 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:44,640 Yeah, that's that's what had driven them to the bishop's office to work out their repentance 533 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,440 or so much of the time it was kind of an institutional as we talked about last week. 534 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,040 Repentance was kind of an institutional activity in some of these. 535 00:40:54,040 --> 00:41:02,240 And they they obviously had felt some sort of relief and some sort of a lifting of guilt. 536 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:06,080 But I I remember thinking, wow, I don't know. 537 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,320 I don't know. 538 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,320 And I'm not the judge. 539 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,320 I'm not judging. 540 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:19,120 And just wondering, I wonder how how deep and I wonder how long and enduring this repentance 541 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:26,440 is going to last because unless one has really experienced a broken heart, contrite spirit 542 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,800 and godly sorrow, they may actually go through the whole process of repentance and they may 543 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:39,240 feel some some degree of relief of relief and and redemption may be sure. 544 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:45,920 But if they if they haven't, if they've short cut it or a short circuit of the process by 545 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:53,720 by not experiencing all of the sorrow that they should have, then their repentance will 546 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:55,720 not be enduring. 547 00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:56,880 Yeah. 548 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,920 And much of that so much of that three things come to my mind. 549 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,840 First one is a misunderstanding of truly who we are. 550 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:10,320 You know, our eternity is determined by our identity, our identity or an understanding 551 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,880 of our identity, not just who we are, but who's we are, you know, one of the things 552 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:22,240 I purchase the exactly I was in a I was in a Institute training this last Saturday and 553 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:23,240 it was wonderful. 554 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:28,000 And one of the things that was brought up by, you know, we and we had discussion around 555 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,800 was it's really important that we understand our identity, our divine identity. 556 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,400 Well, our divine identity is not just confined to understanding how awesome it is that we 557 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,000 have heavenly parents and that because of that, we're entitled to all of the things 558 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:49,200 that were but are really, I think the foundational part of understanding our divine identity 559 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:55,120 is understanding who's we are that we have been purchased that we have been redeemed. 560 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,120 That's the first one. 561 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:02,160 So once that understanding is there, I think that frees us to negate or to kind of anecdotally 562 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,400 take care of the second two that I think that can put present a problem to us as to why 563 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:13,640 is it so difficult for many of us to really have that rigorous required honesty. 564 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,040 And those are we've already talked about them fear and pride, the twin bullies, right? 565 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,400 Yeah, fear and pride. 566 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,680 We're fearful of what others might think. 567 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,720 We're fearful of the way it's going to appear. 568 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:28,880 We're filled fearful that maybe I can't actually do this. 569 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,960 And that list can go on at nauseam, actually. 570 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,640 And then pride and fear in this case is just an extension of pride. 571 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,480 Right, so self awareness. 572 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,160 Yeah, so just understanding all of that stuff about us. 573 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,640 But how do we get rid of that? 574 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:49,080 We go back to the first principle, understanding who's we are once that's there. 575 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:54,960 And we don't fear what man think, you know, we don't what others may think of us no longer 576 00:43:54,960 --> 00:44:02,120 really has weight in our souls like it does once like it does without it. 577 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:07,400 Once we have come to really embrace and through a relationship with Jesus Christ, understand 578 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,600 that we're his. 579 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,600 Yeah. 580 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,720 Well, I think that's awesome. 581 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:21,600 And the way you get there, the way you understand that is right to to not be a is elder president 582 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:29,080 Nelson puts it to be a lazy learner to pay a price and to study. 583 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,400 And that's right. 584 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,600 That was one of the first. 585 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,520 I think that was the first step to really obtain great faith. 586 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:41,520 And and great faith in Jesus Christ leads to those things that cause a broken heart and 587 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,520 contrite spirit. 588 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:48,840 I've always loved this verse in Helaman chapter, chapter 15 Scott. 589 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,640 This is really powerful. 590 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,760 I think this is kind of the process. 591 00:44:52,760 --> 00:45:00,240 In fact, I've written in my margin of verse seven, chapter 15 of Helaman. 592 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:09,400 I've written the process of change and it reads and behold, ye do know of yourselves 593 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:17,800 for ye have witnessed it that as many of them as are brought to the knowledge of the truth 594 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:25,080 and to know of the wicked and abominable trans traditions of their fathers. 595 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,720 So what's the first part? 596 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:30,080 They've been brought to the knowledge of the truth. 597 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:35,880 They they they understand the doctrine and they understand their sins. 598 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,120 They see things as they really are Scott. 599 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:43,840 They see their sins and the false traditions and wickedness of their fathers, their past, 600 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,960 their their conditions. 601 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,160 Once they do that, that's number one. 602 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:59,040 And then and I call this number two, they are led to believe the holy scriptures. 603 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:05,880 Ye the prophecies of the holy prophets, which are written. 604 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:14,760 So that's two, which leadeth them, this is three, to faith on the Lord. 605 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,760 That leads to faith on the Lord, right? 606 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,040 They've planted the seed in their heart. 607 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:26,160 They know the they know the the atonement of Jesus Christ is real. 608 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:34,600 It leads them to faith on the Lord and unto repentance, which faith and repentance bringeth 609 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,800 a change of heart unto them. 610 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,760 And that's the ultimate change. 611 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,480 And it's the heart because the heart has been broken. 612 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,440 The natural man heart has been broken and it's been replaced. 613 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,880 It hasn't been mended Scott. 614 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,280 They've been given a new heart. 615 00:46:54,280 --> 00:47:01,080 I love that scripture in Ezekiel, where the Lord says, and I will give you a new heart. 616 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,840 They're given a new heart. 617 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:11,640 And once that heart has been not just changed, but replaced with a new heart. 618 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,880 Wow. 619 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,320 What? 620 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,360 That's the good news. 621 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:22,040 And that's really where the blessings of faith and repentance in the gospel of Jesus Christ 622 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:27,720 can begin to flow into our lives when we've experienced that new heart. 623 00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:30,600 So I think that's I recommend that scripture. 624 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:36,160 Heelman 15 seven as kind of worth our study. 625 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,720 And then to use that to be able to begin to make the change and meet the conditions of 626 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:43,040 repentance. 627 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,440 Another scripture that I want to go to on this subject Scott before we close today is 628 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,000 Dr. and Covenants section 20 verse 37. 629 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,200 Now I know and preach my gospel, at least it used to be. 630 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,640 I know there's been some revisions there, but I think it's still probably true. 631 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:06,640 This is the verse that all mission leaders and priesthood leaders use to qualify whether 632 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,080 somebody is has qualified for baptism. 633 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:15,520 This is the this is the scripture that determines qualification for membership in the church. 634 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,520 Right. 635 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:22,680 So let's let's read verse 37 section 20, which is section 20 is the constitution of 636 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,080 the church given on the day the church was organized. 637 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:32,040 And here by revelation, we learn what it takes to be again a member of the church. 638 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,280 Let's read and talk about it. 639 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,280 Scott. 640 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,280 All right. 641 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,440 This is verse 37 of section 20 of the Doctrine and Covenants. 642 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:43,360 And again, by way of commandment to the church concerning the manner of baptism, all those 643 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,240 who humble themselves before God and desire to be baptized and come forth with broken 644 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:54,400 hearts and contrite spirits and witness before the church that they have truly repented of 645 00:48:54,400 --> 00:49:00,480 all their sins and are willing to take upon them the name of Jesus Christ, having had 646 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:06,200 having a determination to serve him to the end and truly manifest their works that they 647 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:11,840 have received of the spirit of Christ unto the remission of their sins shall be received 648 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,440 by baptism into this church. 649 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,680 So what stands out to you there, Scott? 650 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,680 The thing that pops out to me every time I read it and it doesn't matter if it's here 651 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:28,920 or other parts of scripture that we are willing to take upon us the name of Jesus Christ. 652 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:29,920 Okay. 653 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,480 Well, that's that's really powerful. 654 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:37,360 Again, I hope our listeners are, yeah, are being, you know, sensitized to see how often 655 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:45,000 that that is in the script, how that is encouraged in the scriptures and what it means to have 656 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:53,000 faith in or believe on the name of or take upon ourselves the name of and it's just it's 657 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,520 throughout all the scriptures. 658 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,000 Well, there's a couple of things that kind of predicate or preface that though. 659 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,240 So you know, all those who humble themselves before God, there you go. 660 00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:07,000 You know, and and then second, then have a desire. 661 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,920 Yeah, after that humility will come to desire, right? 662 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:16,400 And gratitude is part of that humility and who gratitude begets desire, right? 663 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,480 This is a this is a pure motive. 664 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,800 This desire is not a worldly motive. 665 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:30,120 It's it's not to to to, you know, gain, gain or to anyway, it's a it's just a really sincere 666 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:36,960 desire and then three to come forth with broken hearts and contrite spirits. 667 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,840 And that could actually be three and four, right? 668 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,400 Broken heart and then a contrite spirit, because they're not always the same thing. 669 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,480 One proceeds the other typically. 670 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,560 And then witness before the church that they have truly repented of all their sins and 671 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:55,200 are willing to take upon them the name of Christ to witness before the church. 672 00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:01,160 That's that's not a I guess it could be, you know, a soapbox on the corner and yet. 673 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,520 But a witness before the church is a living witness. 674 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,520 It's how we live our lives. 675 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,840 It's the spirit of attraction rather than promotion. 676 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:19,120 It's come, you know, I have Christ's image in me and through me and because you know me, 677 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,120 you know him. 678 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,120 That's that kind of thing. 679 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,120 I love that. 680 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:27,760 Well, it's interesting to me in this verse is that broken hearts and contrite spirits 681 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,920 are the witness that they have truly repented of their sins. 682 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,880 And a broken heart and contrite spirit kind of is the witness that they are willing to 683 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:46,040 take upon them the name of Jesus Christ having a determination to serve him to the end. 684 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,480 That becomes not only now the conditions, not only the conditions of repentance, but 685 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:56,720 to some degree the manifestations or evidence of their repentance is that they have a broken 686 00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:00,040 heart and contrite spirit. 687 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:06,520 Christopher Stofferson years ago kind of differentiated between what a broken heart and a contrite 688 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,520 spirit is God. 689 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,760 And I've always, I've always kind of loved his definition. 690 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,200 I think it can be defined in many different ways. 691 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:21,440 But in essence, just kind of paraphrase, he said a broken heart is to fill the real remorse 692 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,840 that we need to feel because of the sins that we've committed. 693 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:33,100 And again, the pain and the suffering of that we've caused Christ and a contrite spirit 694 00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:41,960 is to fill the commitment and the discipline that's required to not repeat the sins and 695 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:47,240 to be a true disciple and follower of the Lord Jesus Christ to have. 696 00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:54,520 So, so one is the remorse and the other is the commitment that we will do better that 697 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,160 we will be true disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ. 698 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,600 That's what it means to have a contrite spirit. 699 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:09,320 So I appreciate kind of the difference that Elder Christopher Stofferson pointed out between 700 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,320 those two. 701 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:17,520 And of course, godly sorrow, true godly sorrow is to know that the only thing that really 702 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,160 matters is again our relationship with him. 703 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:26,080 I think when we talk about contrite spirit sometimes and I think I correct me if I'm 704 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,360 wrong or confirm it if I'm right. 705 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,320 But I think that this is in the book. 706 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:36,320 Elder Anderson talks about contrite spirit is actually an alignment of our will with 707 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,320 our heavenly foes. 708 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,440 Yeah, a desire to, yeah, exactly. 709 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,480 A complete alignment. 710 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:47,400 In other words, our desires become his, our will becomes, become his will. 711 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,400 And that's the contrite spirit. 712 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,640 That's that's deep humility. 713 00:53:51,640 --> 00:54:02,640 Read an interesting quote the other day from C.S. Lewis about his definition of humility. 714 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:07,680 Humility is not thinking less of ourselves. 715 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,120 It's thinking of ourselves less. 716 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,240 I love that. 717 00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:16,160 I really love that definition. 718 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:22,040 We should be thinking more about God, our relationship with God or maybe others that 719 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,520 we've heard or others that have been damaged by our sins against God. 720 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,320 This is so important. 721 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:33,560 We cannot sin in a bubble every time we sin. 722 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:39,040 For some way you think they go in their closet or their garage or their hiding place, their 723 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:46,400 dark place and to do things that aren't right, that it only hurts them. 724 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,520 Wow, that is one of the great lies of Satan. 725 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:58,240 Because whenever someone else has hurt themselves, they have hurt everyone around them because 726 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:05,240 they are not the individual, the loving individual strength and blessing to others that they 727 00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:08,280 could have been, should have been or would have been. 728 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,320 But they not sinned. 729 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:15,600 That should also cause us some degree of remorse. 730 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,600 Right? 731 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,960 Broken heart, contrite spirit. 732 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,560 I want to be a blessing to others. 733 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:29,480 Even if others don't know my sins, if I'm sinning in secret, I think it's one of the 734 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:38,240 great sins of pornography or the negative effects of pornography is that it really desensitizes 735 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:45,720 us and takes the spirit, robs us of the spirit and influence of the Holy Ghost in our lives. 736 00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:53,120 It robs us of what true love and charity and the pure love of Christ really is God. 737 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,440 It destroys relationships. 738 00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:02,160 Not only relationships with our loved ones and perhaps our spouse if we're married, but 739 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,680 it destroys our relationship with the Holy Spirit. 740 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,680 It's devastating. 741 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:14,240 And we think that it only is hurting us. 742 00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:18,120 Saint has completely deceived us. 743 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:23,800 If we for one second believe that, that if we if we participate in the center pornography 744 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:29,480 or others sins like that, that we're only hurting us. 745 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:36,680 And to understand that truth that when we sin, we hurt others, not just Jesus should help 746 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:44,000 us to have the humility and meet the conditions of repentance in order to be forgiven. 747 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,600 So grateful to talk about these things. 748 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:56,160 God, I think we've, we've talked about the conditions of repentance today, broken heart, 749 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,920 contrite spirit, godly sorrow. 750 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:03,480 And then next week we'll begin to talk about to continue the process of repentance and 751 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:09,400 talk about some of the actions that we must take in order to repent of our sins. 752 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,400 And I look forward to that. 753 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:16,760 I love the freedom that we begin to feel as we kind of incorporate and put these things 754 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,480 in into action within our own lives. 755 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:25,820 As we go through this next week, would it be possible maybe for each of us to just kind 756 00:57:25,820 --> 00:57:32,320 of take a personal inventory to take a look within ourselves and see and ask, I guess 757 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,600 I should say ask ourselves this question, where am I not being completely honest with 758 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,800 myself and others and start with ourselves? 759 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:47,680 Where can I and how can I improve my relationship with the spirit as I strive harder to become 760 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,960 more transparent, especially to the Lord. 761 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:56,600 And in all things that I do so that I can really have that broken heart and next to 762 00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:01,800 it have that contrite spirit or have the desire to have my will and heavenly fathers be the 763 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:02,800 same. 764 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,760 And I would just add, Scott, and maybe what can I do daily? 765 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:14,040 What, what are small, simple things can I do daily to not only experience what you just 766 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:22,720 invited them to feel, but also what can I do daily to better understand, appreciate, 767 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:30,720 feel gratitude for the price that was paid for me because of me, and how can I make the 768 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:39,040 Atonement of Jesus Christ and not just an infinite Atonement covering all people, all 769 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:44,860 worlds in all time, but how can I make the Atonement of Jesus Christ more intimate? 770 00:58:44,860 --> 00:58:53,480 How can I come to understand and appreciate daily the intimate part of the Atonement of 771 00:58:53,480 --> 00:59:00,840 Jesus Christ and to better understand what he suffered for and because of me? 772 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:01,840 I love this. 773 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,880 I love the freedom, the peace, the spirit that comes as we talk about these things. 774 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,760 We hope you feel that. 775 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:13,240 We hope you know that you've been redeemed through his blood and that you're experiencing 776 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,480 that in your lives. 777 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,920 We look forward to being with you each and every week. 778 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:17,920 Have a great week, everybody. 779 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:18,920 We'll see you next week. 780 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:37,920 Thank you.