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Hello, my name is Leslie and I am the host of the Why Not Today podcast.

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This is a podcast to celebrate people who have been courageous and said, why not today?

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I started this podcast in honor of my father, Patrick Kane, who often just said, why not

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today?

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I am based in Reston, Virginia, a Planned community right outside of Washington, DC,

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and thanks for joining us today.

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And I'm excited, as I always am, about my guest, Laura Hayes.

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And Laura was somebody that somebody referred me to, which I love that.

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And she's got a business called the Brave Girl Project.

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I'm excited to hear about all she has to share.

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But I always talk about connections and how you meet people and how people are introduced

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to you.

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And Laura, you go way back to the connection of how this podcast started.

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So the podcast idea was inspired by somebody in the Reston area that knew my father.

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And he said in a social media post one day, he said, Pat Kane, myself, always used to

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say, why not today?

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And so fast forward a year later, I finally met the gentleman, John Pinkman.

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And we were talking about the podcast like, oh my gosh, you have to know Laura Hayes.

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And then we connected.

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I'm so excited about that.

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So many things we can do together.

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But it was fun to see you live probably a mile or two from me.

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And we have so many mutual friends.

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So we should have known each other.

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But now we do.

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We probably passed each other so many times.

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And yeah, John is such a connector of people.

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And so he reached out to me and he's like, you need to know Leslie.

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And then he just put us together.

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And I was like, perfect.

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We're both here in Reston.

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Yeah, I love that.

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So I'm super excited to have you on and hear your story.

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And I love what you're doing.

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And you're working in a world of helping teenage girls.

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And that is something that's near and dear to my heart, especially in the Mary Kay world.

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I heard a statistic that a woman's self-esteem is highest at age 10.

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Yeah.

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And we need to help those girls young.

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So let's get to know you, Laura.

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So tell us about you, your business, and quick little information about you and a fast, fun

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fact that we might not know.

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Well, a fast, fun fact, here in Reston, we have our three lakes.

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So I love stand-up paddleboarding.

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That is my, I'm just waiting for it to be a little bit warmer for me to go out.

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So if you ever see, if you're living in Reston and you see someone out on one of the lakes,

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it might be me.

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Well, we need to go out together because I have a paddleboard.

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It's not here in Reston right now.

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It's at Smith Mountain Lake, but I'm going to get it.

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And I do have access to that.

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Oh, that would be beautiful.

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Smith Mountain too is a gorgeous place to.

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And Reston, this is funny, Reston is such a small town that I was at one morning like

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super early on Lake Anne with a friend of mine.

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And we're getting texts and calls.

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Like, were you guys out paddleboarding this morning?

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I'm like, you cannot hide in this community.

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You can't hide.

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I've had that happen too where people, I think I saw you.

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Was that you?

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Yep.

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That was me.

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That was me.

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So what's new about you and your business and is it Brave Girl Project?

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Is that the right name?

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The Brave Girl Project.

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Yes.

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So share with us how you started that and what it is.

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So I am a school counselor.

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And back in 2013, I was looking as a school counselor, anyone who works in the school

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system, you're always doing continuing education.

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And I had seen information about a coaching course and it sounded interesting and it was

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at our Northern Virginia Community College.

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So I thought I'm going to just sign up and take that.

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And that's kind of how everything started.

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I have always been passionate about helping kids.

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I've been a school counselor for 20 years.

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And then I found coaching as a way to continue supporting kids, but with a little bit more

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freedom.

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In schools, you're really limited with some time constraints.

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So sometimes you don't get to spend as much time as you would like.

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So in 2013, I went through a coaching program and started coaching kids on the weekends

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and after school.

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And then in 2019, I had been helping my mom who was sick and I had decided we realized

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she's going to need more care.

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So I was taking a year off from school.

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I was going to take the 2019-2020 school year off to help her.

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Sadly, she passed away before that.

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And my husband said, why don't you just take this year to recalibrate, spend time just

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doing your coaching practice.

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And so that began more of my online.

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And so I have a program and the Brave Girl Project is called the Brave Girl Tribe.

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And this is my big focus where I work with girls in fifth to eighth grade.

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It's an online virtual community where they can attend our coaching calls each week.

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We have lots of resources for them and it's a safe place for girls to come share what's

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going on in their life, but learn the skills they need to live their lives bravely and

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to build up their confidence.

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As you see in the research, there's that big dip in confidence, basically from fifth to

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eighth grade.

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It just is a big dive.

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And we're really seeing a lot of concern.

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Some people may be familiar with the CDC report that came out in late February.

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Our girls really are struggling.

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And so this is something that I'm really passionate in helping.

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And so it's our girls and our moms that really need some of the support as they move forward.

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What an amazing idea and what a need that there is out there.

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So let's kind of back up.

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And I always ask, what does courage mean to you, Laura?

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Courage really is having that confidence that you can handle whatever comes your way and

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that you can step into that discomfort and that you can do so many things that you really

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don't even think you can handle, but when you step in knowing that you always have yourself

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and that you can believe in yourself, that you can handle and figure out and stepping

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into that fear is just part of that step.

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And that when we step into the fear on the other side are the new opportunities, new

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lessons, that growth that you have then in your own confidence.

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So I think it's really stepping into sometimes that unknown, but knowing that you have yourself

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to rely on and that you're so much stronger than what you might even realize.

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That's so true and such a good message, especially with the name of your company, the Brave Girl

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Project and Helping Girls.

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So it must have taken a little courage to leave your teaching or your counseling, your

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comfortable county job.

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You were always grown.

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Was there some time that you had to step into it and like, okay, what am I doing?

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It's very scary to leave something that is such like a contained environment.

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A school really is a container and you have a specific role and jobs and the kids are

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there so you are supporting your community.

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And so stepping outside of that definitely took a lot of courage.

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Also when you start a business, there's such a learning curve.

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So there's definitely times where I would feel like, why did I do this?

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What am I doing?

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And it's just, I think that's part of it is that using that courage to step into that

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uncertainty and that discomfort and just following, you know, okay, I just need to figure out

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just this first next step.

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And then I'm going to find out the next step after that.

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Maybe there's a person, a resource and just knowing there's going to be those periods

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of time where you really feel uncertain.

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But if you can persevere through that, you're going to get to the next place and then you're

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just going to rinse and repeat and keep doing that along your journey.

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And that's kind of the whole premise of why not today?

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It's like, okay, what can I do today?

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Just to move the needle.

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And I did that with this podcast.

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It's like, okay, I'm just going to start it.

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I was talking, I mentioned mutual friend, Kelly Johnson, we're talking about doing a

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retreat around bravery.

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And she said, and planning the retreat, she's like, are you one of those people that you

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set the date and find the place and then figure it out or do you figure it all out and then

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find the date?

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I'm like, it will never happen if I do it that way.

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I am definitely and I think that's a whole big message of why not say like, you got to

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set the date, have the location, figure it out and then go backwards.

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And I think that's any, you know, if you really want to start a business with people that

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plan and plan and plan and plan, you'll never do it.

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I love that of yours, like why not today, because it really gives permission to jump

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in and start and you don't have to be perfect.

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And I think for some of my girls, they really struggle with perfectionism and they feel

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they have to have everything mapped out.

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And it's nope, let's not map it all out.

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Because sometimes when we map it out, it doesn't have the opportunity to evolve and change.

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And that's what we sometimes need is, okay, let me make some, you know, add up, adapt

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solutions to it.

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So just like you starting your business, your coaching, you know, you started in before

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2020 and then, but you had to lose use new tools and it's probably become more powerful

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what you've been able to do with the new tools.

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Like I didn't use zoom and stream yard and all these tools and all these things that

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I had to learn that have been to run my business have helped me with the podcast.

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So it's kind of like if you have everything planned out, you have no room to like, oh,

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I want to go this path and let me try this.

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It's evolving like every day.

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We were talking about this earlier.

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It's like new ideas and like, okay, and learning so many things and being able to plug into

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those people.

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So like, John connected us because the podcasts and our similar visions and what we're doing,

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what you and I met and we could have sat there for hours, like, okay, what tool and what

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tool and I'm like, okay, we need another power hour because there's so many different things.

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So I would love to hear to kind of some of the things and tools that you provide the

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girls that might help just see a little bit more into what you do, but also help people

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if somebody's listening that it has a teenage girl or struggling with some of these courage

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things and low self-esteem, I think is such an issue and all ages.

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I'm really working to really help with encourage all areas.

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So whether it's through my Mary Kay business or through the podcast or just helping people

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in the community.

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Well, it's wonderful that you have this because it really helps inspire people that, you know,

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why not today that regardless of where they are in their journey of life, they can start

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and it doesn't have to be sometimes we make that mistake that it has to be this huge big

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step, but it's just really the first smallest step.

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I love what you said after you listened to a couple of the episodes and I need to use

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this quote directly, but basically you said after listening, you loved hearing all the

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guest stories, but it gave permission to people to say, why not?

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And because the true reality is each of us has, we have many gifts and sometimes what

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happens in life is, you know, we've maybe received messages that make us feel like we're

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not good enough.

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Maybe we see other people doing things and we're like, I'm not like them.

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There's no way I could do this.

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But then what happens, it hurts all of us because then people are holding back on their

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gifts and they're not sharing them with the world.

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maybe there's something that I have that other people need or a way that I can make the world

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a better place.

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And stepping into that bravery and that courage allows all of us then to benefit.

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And that's what we really need in our world today and our girls really need to hear that

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message and to feel that so that they can step into some things that our girls have

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big, big dreams, but sometimes they play it safe.

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in holding them back.

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So their self-esteem, friendships.

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Friendships are a big concern for girls and there's a lot of things that sometimes are

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happening and especially coming out of the pandemic, there's this rush to really get

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connected.

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And so sometimes I think some girls really feel like they don't have a friend or a place

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to connect with others.

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and to kind of build back up that self-esteem.

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I'm an anxiety informed specialist.

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fear that maybe is stopping them and keeping them from really being their best in school,

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being their best with their friends, trying out for the teams, doing the activities.

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girls experience.

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So I have lots of clients.

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I have them from all over.

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Today I get to coach one of my friends that's in Melbourne, Australia.

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So what's nice about doing things virtually is we're only limited by kind of time zone.

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And so it's a wonderful way for people to learn different skills.

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And my girls are really, they're their best expert.

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They already have a lot of what they need inside.

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Sometimes they just need some help or some different tools to stretch them or help give

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perspective.

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Right.

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So they can...What are some of the tools in your toolbox that you provide for the girls?

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So I use a ton.

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A lot of my tools are based in cognitive behavioral therapy techniques.

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What are some basic things that we could pass on or any age is like, all right, I'm struggling

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with this.

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What are some easy ones?

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Here's a very easy one.

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And it's basically think of your thoughts steer the direction of your life.

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Right.

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So I use something that's called the steer map.

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And it's an acronym, but it's not spelled S-T-E-E-R.

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It's S-T-E-A-R.

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So what we want to do, and anyone can do this tool, you'll take a piece of paper and you'll

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just start kind of like a brain dump.

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Just thinking about the things that are going on currently in your life and jotting those

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down on a piece of paper.

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Do that maybe for like three minutes, five minutes.

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And then look at those things that you've written down.

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And I want you to pick one situation.

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So some of my girls, it may be I wasn't invited to a slumber party.

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And a lot of my friends are invited to the slumber party.

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So we'll write that situation down and then we want to look at, so that's the S, the situation.

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The T stands for the thoughts.

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What are the thoughts you have about this situation?

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So that girl might say, you know, the one friend thinks I'm cringey.

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They don't like me.

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I'm awkward.

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No one talks or listens to my stories.

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So then we look, we have these thoughts.

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So then what are the emotions we get?

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Because our thoughts are the gasoline to our emotions.

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So I like to use an emotion feeling wheel because our girls really need to learn more

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feeling words.

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We really want them to build all of us.

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You know, a lot of times we rely on like, oh, how are you doing?

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I'm good.

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We want to be more specific with our feelings and our emotions and really build an awareness

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of our inner world.

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So what are those feelings?

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And then those feelings, they lead to our actions.

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So that's the A in the steer.

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And so sometimes, you know, if that girl is feeling having a thought like no one likes

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me, I'm cringey.

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That's why I'm not invited.

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And then she feels rejected and lonely, isolated.

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Then when she's in school, she may pull back.

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You know, maybe she doesn't sit with them at lunch at the lunch table.

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Maybe someone like says hi and she just kind of gives them the cold shoulder in the hallway.

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And then the results, the R is the results.

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What are the results that we're getting in our life?

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And so that may be I'm not connected to my friends.

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Like I don't know what's going on.

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I don't know if my friends are really my friends.

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So then what we do once we run that steer map, we then run an intentional steer map.

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We want to look at we can enter it into a different points.

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We could look at, you know, what are the results you want to have?

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And maybe the result is like, I want to be invited to a sleepover or I want to feel closer

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to my friends.

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Maybe they want to have a different emotion.

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You know, they just feel icky with that negativity and they want to feel something different.

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I want to feel more confident with my friends.

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So then we work backwards.

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So what would be some of the thoughts you might need to have if you want to feel confident

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with your friends?

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So that might be, well, maybe maybe they were only allowed to have four girls and it's not

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me that's not invited.

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It's just the number.

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You know, maybe they're doing a project for a class that I don't know about.

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So it can be rewriting our thoughts to help us.

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We create so many stories, too, that are right.

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And the reason we do that, you know, is because there's so much information that comes at

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us over the course of the day.

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So our thoughts become habits.

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And sometimes we don't realize we have cognitive distortions that we fall into.

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Another big thing I do with my girls is we look at like kind of a common nine to 13 cognitive

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distortions.

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And we have challenge questions that we can use if we think we've fallen into a thought.

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I call it for my girls, instead of cognitive distortions, I call it a thought hole.

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And so a common one for my girls is they get into the mind reading habit.

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They know like, oh, my gosh, she thinks I'm cringy.

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She doesn't like me.

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So when we will what could be some other thoughts she has about you?

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How do you know that's the thought she has about you?

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And is that asking the question?

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Is it really true?

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Yeah.

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And so then that can help them like, oh, my gosh, I got stuck in this feeling.

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And I was treating this thought as if it was true.

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And then that was clouding, you know, my actions and attitudes.

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And that's maybe why I'm having some of the problems I'm having.

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Yeah, I love that.

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And I think that'll help with everything.

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I was listening to a podcast just the other day from Mel Robbins, who's a huge, successful

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person, and one of the thought afters, I don't know if you listen to it all, but she was

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talking about she didn't get invited to a party.

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And it was because her friend thought she was taking advantage of her asking her to

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babysit where she was looking for sources to people to help babysit because her husband's

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business was going under there.

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$800,000 in debt.

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She was just in survival mode.

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But once you had that conversation, you know, we just kind of we create so many stories

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in our head.

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And like, why don't we create the good story?

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And that's what's really hard for our girls.

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Another key thing is that our girls don't know how to have uncomfortable conversations

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with one another.

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And so then oftentimes, there's something under the surface that's kind of happened

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that there's maybe a resentment or a hurt, and they're not having the conversation.

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And so then this tension kind of builds and this awkwardness between a friendship and

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the girls don't understand what's going on.

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So that's another thing that we're this whole month of March, we've been really looking

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at the skills you need to have a healthy friendship.

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And we've been looking at boundaries and different ways.

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Yeah, when and I there, the teenage girls, and I think it goes all ages, but they have

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their friend group, which is a big thing now.

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And like, I'm not part of that friend group or this friend.

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I'm not this.

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I'm friends with this person, like really good friends, but she's not part of the group.

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So you have to act cool.

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And you know, it goes on forever and ever and ever.

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And it doesn't stop.

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And I love that you're working on them now.

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And oh, my gosh, they're going to be so much more powerful adults.

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I mean, literally, this is what I wish I had had.

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I was a very shy girl growing up, and my parents were very, very supportive, but I would have

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really benefited from someone other than my mom and dad.

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And back when I was growing up, we didn't have school counselors yet.

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And so I probably would have loved to go in and talk with a school counselor, but having

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someplace outside of school to go and talk.

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And that's another thing that my girls really enjoy in the brave girl tribe.

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I have girls from all over and most likely there's so far I don't have anyone from the

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same school.

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Oh, that's awesome.

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I'm wondering about that.

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Yeah, there's a lot of anonymity where you can get online.

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I have girls who are all from Fairfax County, but I have girls from all over the US and

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Canada.

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And I bet they're building great connections and bonds that are going to be lifetime.

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Your high school friends are not your lifetime friends.

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Yeah.

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You're so much drama.

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Yeah, it is so amazing.

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And last this past Sunday call, you know, one of the girls was sharing an experience

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she had.

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And she's like, I just don't know if like I'm overreacting.

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And so it was so helpful for her to hear from the other girls.

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You're not overreacting.

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This isn't just in your head.

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This hurts.

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This is understandable.

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And then we were able I was able to give her advice and then the other girls could add

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in.

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And afterwards, she's like, thank you guys so much.

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This like was so helpful.

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And it was like, made her feel more confident and heard.

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It did.

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It did.

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And what's nice about the brave girl tribe is we also have I kind of think of it like

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a Facebook page, but it's not on social media.

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But the girls can communicate to each other when we're not on a call.

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So they can make a post in the community page and say, oh, my gosh, like, a friend said

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this to me, and I don't know what to do.

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And you know, I can quickly I get all the messages.

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So I know I can go moderate that.

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Other girls give such great advice.

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We're just even validating that hurt.

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And that's what sometimes our girls need is really someone to listen and say, oh, my gosh,

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this is hard.

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This makes sense that you're upset.

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Let's do that.

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You know what we can do now.

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Can we have a brave woman tribe?

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It's funny because on Instagram, I have a lot of people who follow me that are women

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that really benefit from the message.

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And so and what I basically because I am the brave girl.

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This is like what I still need.

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It's a lot of times what I'm using is stuff that I knew I needed when I was young.

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It's stuff that maybe we still need.

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So it's applicable to anybody.

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You know, I also have brave boys that I coach.

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I have several boys that I do individual coaching with.

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I have a son.

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So, you know, I've always all made it.

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Love my guys, too.

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Yeah, I was thinking that to create a why not today tribe or why not a face.

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I have the Facebook page, but a group where people can share and encourage each other.

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I think you just encouraged me to add another list.

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Thanks, Laura.

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Well, and that's what's so nice, Leslie.

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You have so many wonderful ideas and you do things from a place in your heart that you

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want to really help and encourage and support people.

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And so that's wonderful that you have this because that's how we help make the world

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a better place.

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Because then, you know, maybe there's someone in in your group that then, you know, is supporting

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someone younger and it's helping all of us feel better because so many people are dealing

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with anxiety and depression.

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When you look at the rates, it's so many increases.

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So much hard and stuff going on.

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And I was sharing with you before we came on that there's a new book, I think it's called

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The Good Life, but it's got it's under the about a study that I've heard about before.

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It was the Harvard Men's Study and they interviewed men.

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They followed men, white men from Harvard, starting in the 40s all the way.

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And I think President Kennedy was one of the people he said.

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But then they also had a group of more underprivileged men from Boston because it started in the 40s.

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Now it's evolved and it's been going on this long.

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And they've been studying people's life and their connections and their family and multigenerational.

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And the one common denominator, which just really spoke to my heart was the one common

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denominator happiness was connect was more relationships and connections.

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And I think that's such a hard thing for so many people to build those connections.

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And because of what life happens, I mean, it takes work to build those connections and

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have a relationship.

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It's interesting right now in my world, I'm kind of swimming with some new friends I've

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made that are recently divorced.

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And it's interesting in talking to them that I think I have really strong connected friendships.

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I have a really strong thrive.

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Not just in my Mary Kay world, but also just who I am.

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I'm a connector and I build great good relationships.

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And so I was talking to a friend the other day and I'm like, you know, I said, I think

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maybe the one of the reasons I have such strong relationships with all kinds of people is

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because I am single.

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And I've had to develop those skills.

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I said, I might need to do a podcast on, you know, how to thrive being single.

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Yeah, all those relationships.

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That would be so, I mean, and that, I mean, the why not today, like, because sometimes

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adults still need to build the relationships and the social interpersonal skills.

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And when your life has maybe shifted and you no longer have a partner, or your kids are

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off in college and now you're an empty nester.

475
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Now what?

476
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I know.

477
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My son's a sophomore and I'm like, okay, getting ready, getting ready.

478
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I would say it's like when they're little, I said that kids, it's like the hours last

479
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forever and the days go by so fast.

480
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Years go by so fast.

481
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Yeah, they do.

482
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It is very true.

483
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It is amazing how quickly, yeah, because I mean, we all find ourselves in different phases

484
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of our life and sometimes it's reinventing ourselves or understanding and getting to

485
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know ourselves better in this new stage and giving yourself permission.

486
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And there's nothing wrong with that.

487
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We should be evolving and changing.

488
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You're not going to be the same person you were in your twenties.

489
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,960
No, absolutely not.

490
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Hopefully not.

491
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And having those tools and those skills that you talk about, having a toolbox, I teach

492
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that a lot.

493
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It's like what are the things that can help you reframe and think different ways and to

494
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be, to have those changes and decide, do what you want to do.

495
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Enjoy your life.

496
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There's so many people that are miserable.

497
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And that's what I really hope this Why Not Today message encourages people.

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Live your life, enjoy your life.

499
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Do the things you want to do and you just never know.

500
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You never know who is going to be connected to you and whose dream is connected to yours.

501
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Yes, I love that.

502
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You just spark a memory.

503
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Last week, one of my favorite, my mentor is Lynn Lyons.

504
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She does, she's a speaker and a psychotherapist who does a tremendous amount of work around

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anxiety.

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And she was in the Northern Virginia area and she presented in McLean and I got to actually

507
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meet her and have her sign one of her books.

508
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But one thing that she had said that is essential for parents is to have bring joy into your

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life.

510
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Really let your kids see you experiencing joy.

511
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And our kids really sometimes right now see they're fearful of growing up.

512
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They see how difficult the world is.

513
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And it, you know, sometimes they see their parents maybe now because so many parents

514
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,360
work from home still my husband still works from home.

515
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,240
They see the pressure, they see the demands and they are like, I don't want that.

516
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That does not look fun, exciting and invigorating.

517
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And so finding joy.

518
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Why not today?

519
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What could we do today to bring joy into our life or to make a new connection with someone?

520
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,840
That's awesome and the next question I was going to ask you is how would you encourage

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somebody to be courageous?

522
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And I think that's one of the things is just show joy.

523
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:35,760
Yeah, it is a tremendous, it gives people permission.

524
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People who don't even know you get to see that.

525
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,960
And it gives them hope.

526
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,960
It gives them maybe inspiration to step into finding what gives them joy.

527
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:53,920
And so that is it's an essential part of your self care and it can be so important for all

528
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,880
of us to see that that playful spirit like who were we when we were nine?

529
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What did we do when we were little?

530
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:08,320
I saw a YouTube video yesterday and it was about Denmark and people on a trampoline and

531
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,040
trampolines I'm like you can just have fun and you know we need to have fun and have

532
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:19,120
joy in our life and celebrate the little successes and you know not take life so serious.

533
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:28,120
Exactly I mean that's I feel I benefit so much from my clients as well like sometimes

534
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:34,560
I get sometimes I like I hope we get as equal but I really get true gifts because I get

535
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:41,840
to see the world through their eyes and sometimes it can really spark you know inspiration hope

536
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:47,400
and you know getting connected back with who we were when we were young and what was important

537
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:53,640
perhaps to us and moving forward maybe more into that.

538
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,920
Yeah absolutely I know when I coach people and work with people it's the same thing you

539
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,480
get so many gifts with helping and it reminds us of the thing and they can teach us also.

540
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,480
Yeah.

541
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:08,040
You know us being brave can help other people and then in turn help us by sharing with other

542
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,040
people.

543
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,600
We could go on forever and ever and ever and I wish we did have unlimited time but I don't

544
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,200
want listeners to say oh my gosh will they ever stop.

545
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,120
But I always like to connect this back because this started in honor of my dad connected

546
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,360
to my dad and some people like I never met your dad which I don't know if you ever did

547
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,360
meet my dad.

548
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,920
You've lived and rest in a while you may have seen them because people saw him around but

549
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:34,160
so I always go back to the connection of things I heard well first of all you know the connection

550
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,280
of John Pinkman that's a direct connect but you're changing lives and making a difference

551
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,280
in young people.

552
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,760
I think that was one a gift my father had.

553
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,960
We would have friends come over to come hang out of the lake or go out or somewhere and

554
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,200
he would be like Laura grab that thing a mulch and help and you do it.

555
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:58,160
I'm like yeah I'm not doing your work yet but he was a father to a lot of people and

556
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:05,440
a lot of people didn't have that family that encouraged and he was tough you know and he

557
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:11,360
made he was made that he'd listened and he made you think I have several friends and

558
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,040
I mentioned before on this that have said they had more conversations with my father

559
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,760
than they ever did their own father.

560
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:23,760
That's so sweet that he was yeah it's heartbreaking but so nice that they had someone to because

561
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,760
that's really I mean if you have at least one adult caring adult in your life.

562
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,800
Yeah it makes a tremendous amount and so that's so lovely that he was that for so many people.

563
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,840
Yep and then the other connection is the lake life that is funny we grew up on Lake Anne

564
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,680
and his office was the other end of the lake and he always teased that he went all different

565
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,240
ways he was on there weren't paddleboards then but he had a windsurfing he went sailing

566
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:54,080
he swam he skated he sail you know all the ways and he could see us from his office which

567
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,400
had us in trouble a few times.

568
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:05,680
That sounds like he was like a fun person and just like creative and had that nice spirit.

569
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,800
Yeah so thank you Laura for sharing and I can't wait to do more with you so if somebody wants

570
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,800
to reach you or connect with you or what is it and I'm going to share this in the show

571
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,360
notes too.

572
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:15,840
Yeah.

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00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,360
What's the best way to find Laura?

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00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:28,000
The best way my website is the brave girl project dot com and they can find me on Instagram

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00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,640
at the brave girl project they can find me on Facebook at the brave girl project.

576
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,520
I also have a YouTube channel so they can look up the brave girl project.

577
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,560
So yeah I have a podcast.

578
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,520
And what was that?

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I want to be part of your brave girl.

580
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,840
You can come and be a speaker.

581
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:53,040
I know it's funny we have guest speakers and you know then we always say you know once

582
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,680
you're here you're part of the tribe you know and.

583
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,120
Oh I'd love to come be a speaker and I know somebody else I'd love to refer you to.

584
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,880
That would be wonderful I'd love that yeah if someone has someone that they think they

585
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,080
maybe this would be helpful for the girls you know reach out I'm always open to

586
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,480
meeting new people and finding different resources and ways to support.

587
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,160
So yeah well thank you everybody for listening thank you Laura.

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You can find the why why not today podcast on now we're on YouTube we are on Spotify

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00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:30,400
iTunes all the places we do have why not today gear swag so if you need a why not today cup

590
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:37,440
we've got t-shirts we've got finals and share this with a friend if you think might need

591
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,480
to hear it or if you know somebody who'd be a good guest and always looking for powerful

592
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,280
women and men as guests to kind of share so thank you again thanks Laura and thank you

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everybody for listening and just say why not today why not today.

