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Hello, my name is Leslie Kane and I am the host of the Why Not Today podcast.

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This podcast is to celebrate people who have been courageous and said, why not today?

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I started this podcast to honor my father, Patrick Kane, who often said, why not today?

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I'm based in Rusty, Virginia, a Planned community right outside of Washington, DC.

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Thanks for joining us today.

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So I'm excited to have my guest today, Sarah White, and she is the first repeat guest on,

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we interviewed her in the beginning and her story has completely changed.

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And we had coffee the other day and she's just sharing about some things going on in

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her life.

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And I'm like, it's a podcast episode.

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It's funny, I talked to somebody else yesterday that was on a podcast before and she's got

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some twists and turns in her life.

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It's like, oh, that's another podcast episode.

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So I'm super excited to have Sarah here, who is we met virtually, pretty much the only

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virtual networking event I went to.

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And it was one of those divine.

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I had to know Sarah, like she popped up in my Facebook feed that morning and jumped

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on a Facebook or a virtual zoom and she was there.

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And then a day or two later, my sister's like, you need to meet Sarah White.

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I'm like, okay, I need to know this Sarah White person.

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So I feel like even though it was a while before we physically got to see each other,

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I feel like I'm blessed to have you as a good friend and business partner in the world out

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there and just part of my tribe.

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So Sarah, why don't you introduce yourself and share a fun fact about you?

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I know you were on before, so share another fun fact maybe.

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And then let's talk about your courage.

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All right.

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So Sarah White, like Leslie said, and I run five restaurants getting ready to open my

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fifth restaurant and the first one that I will technically own coming up in the summer.

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I am very excited about that.

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That's a fun fact, right?

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Is it part of the same brand or?

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No, actually, it's going to be Westover Taco in Westover Arlington.

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And we're super excited to get it off the ground.

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It'll be the first of its type.

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And that along with running those five restaurants and like you said, running for office before

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having done a few things around here, I'm in 25 groups, including the Virginia Restaurant

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Logic and Travel Association and seven different about to be eight different chambers.

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I just love meeting people and use the word tribe, which is a big deal to me and surrounding

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myself with all the right people.

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And how are you going to meet them if you don't get out there?

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They don't knock on your door.

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I don't know.

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It just doesn't happen.

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So I always say I'm like waiting for somebody to knock on my door and I live in a secure

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building.

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It's like you got to get out there, which is so true.

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And just like we met, I mean, you can meet people virtually or through social media and

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never know who that person that you're supposed to meet.

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So what's a fun fact about Sarah White?

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So aside from opening the restaurants, which you know, this is going to be our fifth restaurant

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and the first one that I own, which I think is very exciting.

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I think a fun fact, let's just say about my restaurant is that we're looking to do something

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a different a little different.

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I'm friends with some folks at the Asian American Hotel Association and they are teaching me

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how to make chicken tikka from one of their five star chefs who is going to make my recipe

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perfect so we can put in tacos.

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Oh, fun.

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All right.

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So we need to plan a date.

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I think we had this on the calendar at one point, but something happened.

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We didn't make it happen.

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Have you been to Mama Tigres yet?

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I have not.

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I'm still waiting to do that.

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The last week in February.

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Let's schedule something.

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It is Mexican Indian fusion.

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That's awesome.

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Some so fun.

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So the other cool kind of connecting fact that I think endeared me to you when I first

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met you this year, email was something OBS and you went to the outer banks on vacation

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and just stayed and I'm so connected to outer banks and lived didn't personally officially

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live there, but was there so much everybody thought I lived there knew everything that

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was going on.

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So I've been there for seven years.

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Lots of friends still go back to say hello.

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Miss it a lot, but love Northern Virginia.

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Well, I was actually talking to friends last night about a trip to outer banks in a couple

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weeks because also in time.

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So all right.

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So what does courage means you as a definition change?

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Do you still have the same one share with courage?

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Which means you I have to say it and you already know this, but for everybody listening, I

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went through some health challenges and I've had them my whole life, but this past year,

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I actually had to have a surgery where they removed about 30% of my pancreas and I knew

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going into it that it wasn't a sure bet.

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I had been told for months that they wanted to wait till I was stronger, wonder wait till

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it was healthier and it just wasn't happening.

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And we knew we had to walk in anyway and do the surgery.

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And so courage was getting up that day and walking in anyway and saying, let's just get

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this done because it can't, it can't hinder my life any longer.

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I have places and people and things to do.

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Like I got to go.

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This is not working for me to live in a hospital.

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I was in the hospital for most of 15 months and just walking in anyway and high five in

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my surgeon and saying, let's do this.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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Well, and you came back on the other side.

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So let's talk about the courageous things in your tribe and how you've just gotten so

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So you haven't been in Northern Virginia that long compared to my world in Northern Virginia.

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How long have you been in Northern Virginia?

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So it's coming up on seven years.

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Seven years.

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So, you know, you and I met, we talked about through networking, became friends.

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And I remember it was probably November of 2021.

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You reached out on Facebook and you built a great tribe on Facebook and you reached out

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on Facebook and said, I'm in the hospital and you just were, you were sad.

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You were lonely.

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You needed connection.

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And I remember seeing that post.

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And although I know you knew you, I didn't know you that well.

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And I was, it was not an inconvenient time for my world, but I'm like, you know what?

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She's reaching out.

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When people reach out, you need to react to that.

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So I went, I remember meeting with you and we walked up and down the hall and not to

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focus on your pain to distract you.

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You're like, talk to me.

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And we just start talking.

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And honestly, you were one of the people that really encouraged me to go forward with this

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podcast from that conversation of you in the hospital.

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But it was such a fun conversation to have.

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And it was a distraction and, and you are part of my tribe.

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I think from day one, we knew that was just going to be a thing.

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So you're showing up for me when I needed somebody, when I needed someone most.

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And I got to say, I was fortunate to have a lot of friends who came out of the woodwork

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that I didn't even like, I didn't realize that they considered me close enough.

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To show up for something like that, because you know, that's, that's kind of a personal

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thing and, and you don't know who's going to walk through the door.

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And the number of people that I didn't know that they considered me that close of a friend

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to do that for me was, I mean, there were days over in tears, my eyes, I was just like,

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so overwhelmed with the amount of love that was shown for someone that they barely knew.

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And you know, of course my close friends were all there as well, but walking up and down

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the hall and having those conversations and being able to be there for you and talk it

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through and say, you know, well, you're asking other people, why not today?

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Why are you questioning it?

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This is the point we've got to get this done and, and getting to do that for other friends

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and talk about whatever it was in their life, because I didn't want to talk about me.

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I didn't want to talk about what was going on.

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I needed any distraction and just getting to be there for other people while they were

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helping me through that was amazing.

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And you, you were very smart about that.

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Like reaching out, ask, and I admire that you asked for help.

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So many people don't ask for help.

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So you've been here in seven years of which almost half of those seven years have been,

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we were in lockdown for part of it.

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And so you really built friendships, tribe community through social media and virtual

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I found something in my life that I think a lot of people overlook is that, and it's

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all started from, you know, loan a book to a friend or to somebody who isn't your friend,

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because then they'll think you're friends.

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And I, Thomas Jefferson, I don't know, I can't remember who's that was.

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It was a founding father.

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And I, I've taken that and I've grown on it and said, you know, tell somebody something

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you're not sure you want them to know, because showing that little bit of vulnerability often

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makes other people go, wait a minute, if they trust me with this, like we're friends, like

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that's, that's my person and I can trust them with things.

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And so you find that it opens this door and this connection between souls of like, we're,

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we're each other's person now, you know, you know, something about me and I'm trusting

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you with it.

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And, and, you know, maybe it's not the biggest secret in the world, but something that I

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wouldn't have told, you know, somebody at the grocery store while we're picking out

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meat for this week's dinner.

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So it is something personal and it is something that you might not have wanted to share or,

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or didn't think that you were going to share at that moment.

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And for whatever reason, I feel like I always know the right, right thing in the right time

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when you're having that conversation with somebody to say, you know, this is, this is

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what they need to hear from me to know that I consider them my person and I want them

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to consider me the same way.

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That's awesome.

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And I think it's a gut thing.

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It's an instinct.

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It's saying, why not today?

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Like, I'm not a hundred percent comfortable with saying this, but I'm just going to do

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And you know, I was talking to coaching a friend yesterday about something, a hard conversation

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like just envision the after how good you're going to feel.

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And I think that is where this podcast has evolved.

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I can't believe it's been almost a year, but it's, we're talking about subjects that people

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can relate to and make, make us normal and real.

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And people are saying, that's me.

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Like I can relate to that.

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Somebody I shared this podcast with somebody the other day, and this is, I'm going to share

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this coach says, why not today is such an inspiring message.

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And I love how each person shares her own personal experiences of choosing that for

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themselves.

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It gives your listeners permission and courage to do that for themselves.

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Isn't that powerful?

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Like, and that's, I think that's what we're doing.

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And so what you did and what you showed and witnessed and let people, oh, you opened up

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your world to them and you showed that you needed help.

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And I think we're too afraid sometimes to ask for help.

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And yours were simple health.

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I remember one day and I was out of town so I couldn't help you, but you like, I need

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Rita's frozen ice or whatever that stuff's called.

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And I showed up at the hospital and the hospital was out of Italian ice and I was on clear

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Italian ice.

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I was wanting it so badly.

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And I have to say that the first day that I asked three different people showed up throughout

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And then the next lunch, dinner, three different people brought me Italian ice.

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If I hadn't asked, I wouldn't have received, right?

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Like you have to throw it out there what you need.

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And my options really, when I was put in the hospital for, you know, and at the beginning

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I didn't know it's going to be 15 months, but I knew I was going to be missing for just

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a little while.

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And my options were to let the entire world know that something is wrong and I could use

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some support and here's what's going on with me or let everybody think I just disappeared,

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that I flaked, that I was gone.

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And I couldn't live with that.

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I knew at the end of the day, I couldn't live with all of the great people and the great

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connections I had met just thinking I was gone, that I was not part of their group anymore,

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didn't want to be friends or wasn't going to hang out.

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And then they can read their own stories about you.

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I wanted to make sure that everybody knew exactly where I was and that I would be back,

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that I was not far away.

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And if you want to come to me in the meantime, let's do it.

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If you want to talk on Zoom, let's do it.

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But know that at some point this will end and I'll be right back to who I was.

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And you are and I admire you for that.

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So you know, you reached out for help and my mom is a helper and loves to do things

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for people, but she doesn't want people to do things for her.

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And I always share with her like people like to help and we want to be useful.

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We don't know what that looks like sometimes.

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And so you requesting what it looked like.

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I remember one time you just said, call me.

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I need to talk to people on board.

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Like you were still in the midst of setting up networking things.

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You took care of yourself.

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I remember one day I got a phone call from you and like, I need some new Mary Kay colors.

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I need some lipsticks and some eye colors.

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I need to feel better about me.

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And all those things are just so important that we forget.

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So when you don't ask for help, you block the blessing of somebody else that wants to

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help.

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And that's how I felt about it is how would I feel if any one of these people that are

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doing this for me, I knew that they, they needed something and they just didn't tell

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me, you know, I would feel left out of their life.

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I would feel like I wasn't a part of it.

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And so I wanted people to know that they are a part of my life.

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And you know, one day it was, I need conditioner.

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Like I was just at a conditioner and my husband was working and one of my friends called me

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immediately.

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He starts texting me.

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He's like, I'm at Walmart.

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What kind do you use?

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And it was just, it's the little things that I was able to just say, Hey, I'm going to

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throw this out there and not ask somebody specifically.

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Cause you know, I don't know who's busy today and I don't want anybody to feel that, that

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kind of obligation to me, but I'll bet if I throw it out there, if there's somebody

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that will jump up and say, Hey, I've got 20 minutes, let me go get that for you.

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And I love that you used pretty much use social media to do this.

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Oh yeah.

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Facebook.

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Social media is something it's like that I have, it's like, I don't want to be distracted

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by it, but I know I need to use it and use it as a tool, which you did to meet people,

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to network, to build relationships.

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It's social media because you want to be social.

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It's commenting, it's engaging, it's getting to know people, it's learning about their

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lives and you know, we're so focused on making everything perfect.

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I feel like the right people see it at the right time too.

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Like, you know, if I put it on Facebook, I can be pretty sure that somebody that was

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busy at work probably wasn't on their Facebook.

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So they weren't feeling torn or obligated to get to me because it was somebody who was

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scrolling Facebook.

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Yeah.

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And somebody that, you know, it was a perfect time.

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Just like when I came to see you and you helped me tremendously when I was helping you and

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in that how it all works that you give and you get and, and that's really what networking

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is.

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So, and I love that you're just open to meet everybody.

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And I look at our mutual friends when we first even met.

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Now I look at them like, okay, how are you connected with that person?

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And you're just twisting and wrapping into my life and all the worlds.

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And I mean, I've been in this world a long time in the North Virginia area and you are

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just totally, that was one of the things that impressed me is you just connected.

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So talk about your jacket or your t-shirt.

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I love this.

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I know you love my t-shirt.

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I had it made up by a small company and it just says on the back, it's got a golden retriever.

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I'm the golden retriever of people.

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I'm excited to meet everybody.

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Every time I walk into your room, it's how many people can I meet?

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And so we put a golden retriever on the back and it just says, have I met you yet?

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And on the front, it has my name and big letters.

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So one, I don't have those sticky name tags that fall off at every event that you go to

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because my name's already right there, but two, it lets people know that I'm here to

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meet you.

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That's literally what I showed up today for.

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I might tell you about a business or I might tell you about a calendar that I'm running

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or whatever, but at the end of the day, I just want to meet as many people as I can.

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And I think that people have really responded to that like you did and are just like, oh

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my goodness, I love that.

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I've got to know who that is.

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Yeah.

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And you know, for me, I love collecting friends.

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I love to meet new people.

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I met somebody connected on Facebook the other day and we have a hundred and some mutual

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friends.

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I don't know how I never knew her.

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We crossed a million different circles and we had coffee and we were talking about some

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ideas.

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I'm like, well, I'm going away this weekend.

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Do you want to come to the lake?

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And afterwards I'm like, okay, is that creepy?

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Like I just found that connection with her and like, I want to be your friend.

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And that's what I love about networking.

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And it's not just networking at the grocery store, at a restaurant, you know, getting

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to know people.

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And I think people, you know, I came by networking very organically through my father.

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I didn't really realize what he had taught me.

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Many lessons on just connecting with people.

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And when you're out, just getting to know people, because you never know, like, you

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know, you, you work at restaurant, run restaurants, owning a restaurant, but that's not your single

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focus lane.

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You know, my source of income has been Mary Kay for years, but there's so many other parts

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of Leslie and of Sarah and we have vast resources.

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Like if somebody's looking for something, you know, 99% of the time you or I can connect

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them to the person that needs to have that done.

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Yes.

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Well, and here's a funny story that I've not told you before is that when I was in North

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Carolina, it's very, very common for you to be shopping for cereal and somebody goes,

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oh, hey, I have a coupon for that.

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Here you go.

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Or you're looking for bacon and they're like, oh, don't use that brand.

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Use this brand.

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And like, you cannot leave the grocery store without three people talking to you.

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You can't like it's impossible.

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And so when I first moved to Northern Virginia and people don't do that here, like, you know,

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it happens a little, but it's, it's not common.

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And like the second time I went to the grocery store, I called my mom and I was just in tears

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and she's like, what's wrong?

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Like nobody speaks to me.

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Like I don't know what is wrong, but you say hi to people in the grocery store.

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They just don't even respond.

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And I just didn't understand that that's not common everywhere.

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That's not, you know, that's not the way that it is.

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It isn't everywhere, but it is also the person, how focused some people are and how people

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live in their little bubble.

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I walk around my lake all the time and say, good morning.

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Hello to people.

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I met someone one day and she's like, I'm like, oh, I've met you before.

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She didn't remember.

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And finally she's like, oh, you're the person that always smiles and says hello.

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I'm like, okay, that's a good thing to be known for, but that's kind of scary that other

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people aren't known for that.

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Well, that's, I used to walk to work every day.

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I lived at two blocks from one of my restaurants when I first started there and I would walk

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every day.

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And so every day I would say, hi, good morning, whatever it's whoever's going by, you know,

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maybe pet a dog here and there.

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And at first they were looking at me like she's a crazy person.

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I know they look at you and they look down and they don't want to acknowledge that.

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But it was funny by the time I left, it wasn't the same way.

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They would say hi to me first, or they would, you know, let the dog run over to me because

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they knew that's what was coming.

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And it was just such a change.

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And you can be that change.

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If you, you know, that's the kind of neighborhood I want to live in.

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Me and all of my friends in my neighborhood.

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Now we have a chat thread that blows up all day because we talk to each other every day.

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And it's like, be that person that you want to meet because that like attracts like.

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Oh, absolutely.

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And I think that's one of the things that attracted me to you is just making friends

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and meeting, connecting with people.

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And you know, I spent a lot of time down at Smith Mount Lake and I've got tons of friends

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and connections here because I meet people and I'm deliberate about it.

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And I did grow up in Northern Virginia, but I think I acquired skills that can do meet

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the people and connect.

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And, you know, a funny, another connection story to Outer Banks is that when I was there

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in college, spring break, we were, me and my friends were at the grocery store buying

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beer or something for spring break and ran into these guys that they were shopping at

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the grocery store.

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And they asked us what taco shells weren't wouldn't crack.

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And so that was 30 some years ago.

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And I can't tell you how many connections I have from that conversation.

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One of the original guys that was there and are still great friends.

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And my life, I wouldn't be where I'm sitting right now if it wasn't for that conversation

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at the grocery store at the Outer Banks 30 some years ago.

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Never know where it's going.

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You just never know.

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And here's my other thing.

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I finally, you know, I'm in my forties and I'm watching my nieces who are now teenagers,

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one's preteen and one, you know, is getting ready to be 16.

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And I just keep thinking, what if we instilled in our daughters that not fear of people?

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Like I wasn't raised with that.

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I learned that all on my own.

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I learned that I'm very socially anxious to walk into a room.

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So if I know half the room, I don't have to be afraid.

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So what if we taught that to the next generation of like, it's okay to meet new people.

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You know, we were all raised with don't talk to strangers and that's great advice up to

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a certain age.

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But at a certain point, even strangers are all with our friends.

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Yeah.

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You know, and how are they ever not going to be strangers if you never speak to anybody?

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So it's just getting that, that confidence level up and showing them that, you know,

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there's a time and a place that there are certain strangers, you know, you don't talk

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to, don't walk up a dark alley in the middle of the night and say hello.

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But you know, maybe when you're walking down the sidewalk in the middle of the day, it's

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great to say hello to everybody.

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Right, and make those new friends and, and you never know too, when somebody's just having

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a really crappy day and they need a friend.

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Oh yeah, for sure.

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There's just so many things that make a difference.

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You get that call and you didn't see it coming and it's a friend out of nowhere and you didn't

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realize how much you needed to hear their voice until you...

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Exactly.

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You just never know.

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So, and we need to be those friends and I think you and I both do a good job with that.

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So anything else on the courage world you want to share?

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Do you want to share what your next step is in your political world?

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Are you ready to talk about that?

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Sure.

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Or platform for that?

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I'm bouncing out of the two party system.

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I've had enough of it's either this way or it's that way because I just don't see the

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world in black and white.

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And I don't understand how we've come this far and in these two institutions that just

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see things and either you're on our team or you're on somebody else's team period.

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So I've decided to run independent this year to show that there's another way.

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And if you give me a platform from a group, I'm going to agree with half of it.

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I'm going to disagree with half of it.

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I'm never going to be a party line or any other line follower.

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I don't belong in a box.

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I dislike boxes.

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No, you are not a box girl.

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I am not.

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So I enjoy being able to speak my mind and be the person that I am and be true to myself.

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The thing we've all been kicking around this year is putting the PO in politics.

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We're pissed off of being told we have to be one thing or another.

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And I really want that to shine through this year is that you don't have to be in a box.

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There's nothing telling you this isn't Dallas versus the commanders.

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It isn't.

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This is your life.

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These are things that affect your family, your friends, the people that you know, your

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neighbors.

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And we need to take it more seriously than to just cheer for a team.

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And so I am going to be district 13's team.

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That is it.

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Like all I care about is our you know, does my family does your family eat?

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Does my neighbor's family eat?

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Do my employees families eat?

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That is what matters at the end of the day.

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You can tell I'm a restaurant person.

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It focuses a lot around table issues.

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You know, what are you talking about at your table?

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Because guess what?

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That's probably what we're talking about at our table too.

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And how can we fix it?

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And another thing I think that politicians don't do enough and I know that's a dirty

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word.

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I don't even like being concerned that word to be honest.

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But you know, if you don't take into account what everybody else is going through and hear

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their two cents of how they see the solution working out, you know, you can't be an effective

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leader because guess what?

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I don't know everything.

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Don't I mean, don't be afraid to share that.

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You're willing to learn.

471
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The all knowing Sarah White.

472
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You're learning, willing to learn and ask those questions, which I love.

473
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Well, I'm hearing you on.

474
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I wish I could vote for you, but I will be supporting and cheering on whatever I can.

475
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And I love that you talked about, you know, everybody needs to be eating in around the

476
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table.

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And I went through the leadership Fairfax program a couple of years ago and our project

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was around food insecurity.

479
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And people don't realize in Virginia, that's an issue and rest and it's an issue.

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And so I'm happy to support and help you.

481
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:22,920
And the other thing too, you mentioned is being around the table.

482
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And one of the things with Mary Kay, we always say, you know, we meet people around their

483
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kitchen table and you get to know people.

484
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And what a great way to get to know somebody around food and it all kind of ties in.

485
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So we could talk forever and ever.

486
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,160
And I know you got to bounce to something else, but before we leave, I want you to share

487
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what would, what would you say to someone to encourage them to say, why not today?

488
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So I think this is a resounding theme in yours and mine's life and every conversation we've

489
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ever had.

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And it always comes back to you.

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If you're thinking of that one thing that you want to do and you know, you know, you

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want to make these steps and you know, you need to make these steps for yourself and

493
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for your mental health and your sanity.

494
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Thinking through it, like, how are you going to feel tomorrow?

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If you didn't do it, how are you going to feel next month when you still didn't do it?

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And do you want to be, you know, I know what it's like to be laying there on a deathbed

497
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at this point.

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Like, you know, we didn't know if I was going to survive in November.

499
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And I know what it's like to lay there and think I should have done just one more thing.

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Don't let yourself get caught up in that because how are you going to feel when you did do

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it?

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How are you going to feel when you did it and it was successful?

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What are you going to learn if you do it and it's not successful to make it better for

504
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the next time?

505
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What are you going to, what lesson are you going to pick up?

506
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And I often share that.

507
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Like when you have something you need to do and you don't feel like it, like just do it,

508
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you're going to feel so much better.

509
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And when you put your head on the pillow at the end of the day, how are you going to feel

510
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,320
when you did it or you didn't, if you didn't do it, you're going to be thinking about it

511
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all day long.

512
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You did it.

513
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You're going to feel amazing and you can check it off your list and feel better about it.

514
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And if it's not perfect, that's okay.

515
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It's all good.

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So nobody, nobody on our deathbed thinks about all of the things that they did, that piece

517
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of dessert that they had that they really should have.

518
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They needed it that day.

519
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You know, that's not the things you're thinking about.

520
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You're thinking about the things you didn't do that you wish you had gotten to.

521
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So let's, let's eliminate those.

522
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Let's get rid of as many of those as we can so that when you're laying there, you can

523
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think about nothing more than that dessert you had and you deserved it.

524
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,160
Exactly.

525
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You deserve first.

526
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I always say that.

527
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You deserve first because ice cream does not travel well in a doggy bag.

528
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,400
No, not at all.

529
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,720
Well, you know, the other question I always, or the thing I always finished the podcast

530
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was this connection to my dad.

531
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And I know we talked about, you were the first person I interviewed like I've never met your

532
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,720
dad.

533
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What's the connection?

534
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But I always tried via conversations and it's still true.

535
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,880
Like just the way you network and meet people.

536
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,360
My dad was very much like there was never a stranger.

537
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Even when he navigated the healthcare system when he was sick, he knew everything about

538
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like the nurse would walk into the doctor.

539
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He knew where they're from, everything about them and got to know them.

540
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Their care, you know, his caretaker.

541
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,880
He wasn't like, I read this the other day too.

542
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:11,080
It wasn't focused on his health and the crappy situation he was in and not feeling well and

543
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,120
being stuck in a hospital.

544
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:16,560
He was like trying to help other people and being creative and trying to connect them

545
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,880
and doing things.

546
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And that's what you lived through.

547
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:20,360
Absolutely.

548
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And it's the same relationship to wherever you're at.

549
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And we do happen to have nurses in common is that, you know, my nurses and getting to

550
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:31,400
know that they became my family for a little while.

551
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,320
They were who was there with me day in and day out.

552
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,800
And they were the first ones to say, by the way, you haven't been able to drink for years

553
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,960
and you're going to be able to have a drink when you're done with this.

554
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,840
So yeah, we're all taking you to happy hour.

555
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,840
Like this is happening.

556
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,160
So I think making that relationship.

557
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That's fun.

558
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,880
And another kind of fun story of my dad talking about the hospital that pulls it all together

559
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:57,680
with being in a hospital and politics is when he was in the hospital, he had had several

560
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,000
strokes and he had left neglect.

561
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So he couldn't see from one side and he was missing an eye and his arm didn't work.

562
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,800
So one time the nurses brought breakfast in and we know the health care system, they are

563
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,400
short staff and they brought breakfast and he couldn't navigate his plate.

564
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,680
He needed help from the nurse and he couldn't find his call button.

565
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,680
And so it just happened to be a political season and a politician called on a cell phone,

566
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,360
which he had and asked for him to support this politician.

567
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:27,280
And he goes, tell you what, I will support you if you call the nurse's station on whatever

568
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:32,440
floor of rest hospital and you send a nurse down here, which they did and they did.

569
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,800
And he wrote an op ed in the paper about it.

570
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,640
So exactly what you need.

571
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,000
It sounds like he didn't hesitate to either.

572
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,520
So you guys are very much like that.

573
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I'm so excited to have you as my first repeat guest.

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00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,880
So thank you for sharing and being on here today and lots of great nuggets.

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And so if you like this podcast, listen to it on Spotify, we're on iTunes, we're on Google.

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We have the website now, which is why not today podcast.com share it with a friend, review

577
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,760
it like it.

578
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,120
Let me know what you think.

579
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,840
And if you know other people that want to be correct, Kurt have done things courageous.

580
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,400
I'm looking for other people to interview.

581
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,400
So thank you again, Sarah.

582
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,080
And let's put on the calendar date to go to lunch and soon because you're done with being

583
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,080
in the hospital.

584
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,080
That's right.

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I'll see you soon.

586
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,080
Yes.

587
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,080
Well, thanks again.

588
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,080
Thank you.

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Let's bounce to our next things.

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Bye.

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00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,080
Bye.

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Bye bye bye.

