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Welcome to the Why Not Today podcast where we celebrate Kura's determination and the

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power of saying, Why Not Today?

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I'm your host, Leslie Cain, and in each episode we dive into inspiring stories of individuals

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who have taken bold steps, face their fears, and embrace the possibility of today.

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From entrepreneurs to artists, dreamers to doers, we explore the moments when somebody

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said enough waiting, Why Not Today?

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Join me as we uncover the heartwarming, the audacious, and the transformative, whether

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it's pursuing a lifelong passion, overcoming obstacles, or simply choosing joy.

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Our guests share their journeys and inspire us all.

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I started this podcast in honor of my father, Patrick Cain, who often said, Why Not Today?

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And remember, you're just one decision away from changing your life.

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And I'm excited.

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My guest is Freddie Donner, who is somebody I've known for years and connected through

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networking, through my dad.

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We kind of crisscrossed, ran into you at a party the other day within, you know, we're

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get it done kind of gals.

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We had a, by the next night we had an appointment to meet for coffee, met last week.

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And then it's such a great conversation about courage.

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Why Not Today?

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And then the one word.

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So I reached out to you and we're recording this right before Christmas and life is lots

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going on, but we're squeezing this in because I feel like it's so important as people start

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the new year and a year to have some clarity.

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So yeah, we're connected in lots of different ways, even lived on the same street for a while.

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So yeah, crisscrossing, you know, it's those people in your life that just keep popping

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in and out.

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And you know, it might not be consistent, but it's meant to be.

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So Freddie Donner, introduce yourself a little bit in a fun fact.

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Okay, well, again, thanks Leslie.

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It's always a joy to be in your presence and on your show and with you on your journey.

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So first of all, the name Freddie came from my great uncle Fred that my mother was very

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close to and since she didn't have any boys, she named her daughter, Fredrica, but decided

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to call me Freddie.

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Everybody asked me that question.

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You know, I was going to ask where they come from.

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I love it.

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Yeah, so as a child, it was brutal.

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I was a little girl being the only girl called Freddie in my world.

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But as an adult, it became quite valuable because everybody remembered my name.

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And then as I got older, it was even harder because then I couldn't remember their name.

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But anyway, I think just being called Freddie, it was part of formed me as the character

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that I am as a girl with a boy's name.

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And I have been married for over 40 years now and I have three sons and I have four

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grandchildren.

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Two of my three sons are married and and we're all very close, which I'm incredibly grateful

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for.

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That's awesome.

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The fun fact is I am now in business with my husband as a Christmas tree farm company.

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Love that.

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That's a fun thing.

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He started it seven years ago and lo and behold, never did I realize exactly the impact that

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was going to have on us and this business and that I was going to be part of that business.

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So we opened this year for our first time in Firstville, Virginia.

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So next year, think about Donner Farms.

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Yes.

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So let me ask you this.

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You never thought it'd be a part of your life.

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Was there a why not say moment when he said, I want to do this or you decide to dive in

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or do you remember where you were, what you're doing when this happened?

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Yeah, well, it was really his decision because we bought the farm to because he grew up on

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a farm.

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He wanted a farm.

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He had a lot of tractors and so we ended up buying a 15 acre parcel of property that had

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a big barn on it.

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No house, just barn and lots of cleared land.

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And then he met with the Fairfax County or excuse me, Loudoun County EDA wanted to put

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it in farm status and they recommended Christmas trees.

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So here we are seven years later.

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And so he said, why not?

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And off he went into the Christmas tree business not having had any experience in that.

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And so then we got to the point where there was more labor needed.

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And I said, well, I can come out and help you mow.

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And so when you mow, you're driving a zero turn mower, which is quite a big machine.

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And that was another why not learn how to do this kind of a thing.

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I was like, you know, I'm sure it just takes a little lesson, which I got.

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And we can do anything if we learn.

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So fun.

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Well, I can't wait to come check it out next year.

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I did go the route.

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I never thought I'd ever do this that I have a artificial tree.

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I never thought I'd do it, but you know what?

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and I'd be all congested over the holiday.

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So like one of my sisters I was talking to about the other day, she goes, I will never

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Well, she's 16 years younger than me.

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I'm like, just let's talk in 16 years.

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So I can't wait to check it out.

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So what does courage mean to you, Freddie?

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Courage means doing it scared.

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Whatever it is that you want to try or do, even if you're scared to go ahead and do it,

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like learning to drive a zero turn mower.

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One year I decided I wanted to take singing lessons.

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particular teacher, you had to do a recital, which meant that I had to get up and sing in

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And to make it even worse, she taught me how to sing Phantom of the Opera.

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And when she told me I'm going to teach you how to sing this, I said, you're out of your

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mind.

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There's no way I can do that.

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And she said, yes, you can.

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And you will.

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And I did.

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And I was shaking the entire time, but I did it anyway.

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How'd you feel when you're done?

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I mean, I learned so much about myself just by saying yes.

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And why not today?

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And I think we all need to push ourselves to do those little things and do them scared.

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And I always tell people, like when you have that thing that's scary or you don't want

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to do, or even if you do it all the time, like just like working out, you know, you

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don't want to do it.

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Like walking this morning and it's, I don't know how cold it was.

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Yeah, it's in the team.

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You dress it up and you go and you're like, I can always turn around.

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But once you start, you feel great.

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And I always tell people, like when you put your head on the pillow at night, when you've

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done that scary thing, how are you going to feel?

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It's amazing.

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And if you didn't, you think about it all, slip and day, long, week, month.

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I mean, how many things do we have on our to-do list that we put off forever?

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We think and put so much more effort into thinking about it.

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And when you do it, it's like takes no time.

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I'm like, okay, that was silly.

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So I know you've had an interesting career and coaching and I'm not even sure the beginning

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of it.

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But, and as I said, we were talking the other day and we were talking about the one word

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which I'm very passionate about.

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And I loved your pivot from last year to this year and how you're changing.

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So I'm going to let you take it from here.

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Like, do you have some why not say moments, some courage in your journey that could encourage

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people and then let's talk about your one word.

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And evolved in your whole picture.

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Well, I think probably a pivotal moment was in 1993 for me when I actually got fired from

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my job.

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And they said, you're just not being a team player.

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The reality was they, they, the organization was in a little bit of a transition and they

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didn't know what to do with me.

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I was really employable, I found.

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So, so I, I took some time to think about what I could do.

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And I said, well, I could go get another job because my career at the time was marketing

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and business development.

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My first career was commercial interior design.

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So marketing and business development in the commercial real estate industry.

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And I got that why not today kind of thought like, why don't I just try my own business?

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And I started marketing 101 and ran that for 20 years.

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Oh, wow.

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Before I went back into corporate for a couple of years, and then I had another wall and

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I hired a coach.

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And I found out that's what I wanted to do was to be a coach.

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And so I began my coaching practice in 2001 by calling up a former client and just said,

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I am now coach.

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I'd like to come talk to you about what I can do for you.

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Oh, wow.

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And so again, another moment of courage.

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Why not if you don't ask, you might not receive.

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So that's how I started my coaching practice.

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That's encouraging.

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And I've learned a lot.

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I've failed a lot, but I've also grown a lot.

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And I do my best to help young coaches get started because it is kind of a scary journey,

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especially if you don't come from a BD background.

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But last year, last year, I had a great year in coaching and in my coaching practice, which

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is also part of my ministry.

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And my word of the year last year was at ease, the symbol with ease after it, because the

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year started out very slowly and I was just praying about it and going, okay, Lord, so

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you want me to kind of just take a rest this year.

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And so I didn't have a high volume of work, but I had high quality work.

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And it was new for me to not be busy all the time.

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And so I embraced it and I learned to just relax and enjoy this free space between coaching

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assignments.

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And then I started pondering 2025 and I took myself to the library for a day to think.

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That's all I wanted to do was to think.

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I didn't want to be doing anything or filling out forms or writing a to-do list.

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I just wanted to stop and think.

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And what came to me for my word of the year for 2025 is imagine.

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Imagine all of the lives that you could touch by being highly more visible and more deliberate

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about your coaching and what you have to offer.

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And the impact that you can have on homes, because a lot of my clients, when they learn

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about who they are and how they are, they can also change who they are and how they

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are at home.

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And that can really make more lives peaceful at home.

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So true.

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And I love that word.

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And I love how you came about it.

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So let's kind of back up a little bit.

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First I want to talk about the ministry you've done.

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So you've done some networking around your faith before.

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And I think that's so powerful.

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So talk about that and what you've done.

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I used to run CEO roundtables for Christian business owners where it was a peer setting

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where other business owners who were also believers came together to solve business problems

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based on biblical principles.

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We would do lessons from the Bible and then say, how are we applying that to our business?

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I did that for over 10 years.

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And then it just felt like God was calling me to stop.

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And so I dissolved that.

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But still stay in touch with that community.

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It's actually the faith at work community is large in Northern Virginia and getting

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larger.

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And it's designed to get people to understand that prayer and work go together.

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Work is a form of worship.

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And when you know that your work is aligned with your faith, it feels amazing to be able

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to get up every day and do what you want to do and what you know God wants you to do.

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I think we talked about this the other day is with my 30 years with Mary Kay.

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Mary Kay's mission and philosophy was God first, family, second and career third.

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So I grew up around that.

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And from working in corporate before to working in that environment was such a difference.

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Having that alignment is so important.

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I can't wait to pursue some of these other things you recommended.

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And how do you connect with Casey Beach, who is a good friend of mine, did you through

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the commercial real estate or through the faith component?

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So Casey and I met at the commercial real estate days.

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And then when, when I started the Christian business roundtable, he, because he's so well

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known, I connected with him only to find out, which I didn't realize at the time, just how

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involved he is with this faith at work community.

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And so then he put me in touch with a few other people that again, you know, I, we, when,

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when you're going into a new adventure, you want to surround yourself with people that

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see what you see, believe what you believe and want to be on that journey with you.

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And Casey's one of those guys, you know.

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And so is a lot.

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So are a lot of people like you that are in his world.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know how I know middle school, middle school.

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Oh my gosh.

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We went to hermit intermediate together and I went, we started high school the year South

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Lakes opened and those listening somewhere totally different.

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We'd lived in the same town and they finally opened a high school in our town and there

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was enough room.

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Everybody on the lake and side of rest and went to hermit and everybody on the other

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side and yes, there is a difference which side you live in rest.

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Yeah, that's right.

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And debate.

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But yeah, so they split us up and but you know, we just kept in contact and his dad

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and my dad were good friends and see the evolution.

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So I ran into you at their holiday party and I talked to somebody else is more a little

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older and more friends with my dad and Mr. Beach and said, yeah, the party's kind of

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become more Casey's thing.

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It's kind of a fun thing.

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But yeah, it's interesting to just see how our world's kind of crisscross.

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Yeah.

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And I mentioned this in a podcast many times that somebody shared with me when you see

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all those Godwinks and those crazy coincidences happen.

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It's really it's when you're living your life in alignment with your values and what

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you should be doing.

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Yeah.

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And you're they're happening all around, but you're just not aware of it.

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So you need to keep your eyes open and be aware.

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I love your evolution of the word.

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So how did you learn about the one word or how long have you been doing it?

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Because I know I've been doing it for a long time and explain a little bit in your words,

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what it is and how it relates and how it's right.

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Well, one of my previous roundtable members gave everybody in the roundtable this little

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tiny red book called the one word.

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Yeah.

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And that was probably eight years ago.

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And I've been doing it every year.

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And I do value that exercise again to stop and take your thoughts captive and think about

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what you're thinking about and think about what is the theme or the thread that you want

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to pull through the entire year for you wherever you are on your journey.

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If you're dealing with a health issue, the focus might be all on healing and getting

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stronger.

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If you're dealing with a relationship issue, it might be forgiveness.

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It could be anything.

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But when we make a decision about what our theme is, you'll see it.

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You'll see it more often.

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Just like if you bought a new car, you'll all of a sudden see that car all over the road.

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But you didn't see it before.

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Our reticular activating system.

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That's right.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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And I know in the book it talks about look in.

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So pray, think about it.

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Yeah.

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Look up, pray about it and then look out and see where you see it.

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Yeah.

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And I was, when we were together the other day, I told you what my one word was and you suggested

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another one and I'm looking at it and I'm seeing it more and I'm like, maybe that's

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the word.

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And I was telling that to a friend of mine and she's like, you always change yours at

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least four times.

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I'm like, yeah, because you've got to have the word that's right for you.

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Yeah.

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And it totally unfolds differently.

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Like the words can have many definitions.

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Yeah.

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And you start one way like 2020, my word was connect and one of my good friends word was

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gather.

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Oh, nice.

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You know what happened in 2020.

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So we had to learn how to connect and gather in totally different ways.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Like how we started the year envisioning it definitely was different.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I really love the way you summarize the word that it starts within and don't rush

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the process.

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Give it some thought, give it a day, a week, a month.

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There's no hurry.

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But when you get it, you'll know that it's the word for the year.

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It just feels like it fits you like a great piece of clothing.

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And then you see it everywhere.

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Yeah.

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So I have done a lot with the one word and we do a painting event every year painting

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our one word.

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Oh, really?

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In front of us.

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And I did two years ago, I did an episode just talking about the one word and beginning

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of December because you got to start thinking about it.

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Now some people may not get their word till later in January or you could change it middle

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year.

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But if you start in the beginning of a year, you got to start thinking about it in the

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beginning of December, like thinking about it as soon as you can.

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Last year I had two people talking about their one word on the podcast that do one.

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She owns a gym and she teaches about intentions in your word and she actually you can get,

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she does a one word event, intention event and you get a bracelet with the word on it.

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Oh, nice.

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That's a great tool.

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And she said this person in front of my list, she did it and she said her word a couple

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of years ago was present.

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And so she looked at it and like when she was with somebody to be present with them.

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Yeah.

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Just sit down and.

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And that takes some discipline.

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It's a choice every time you get in front of someone as to how present you can be, but

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it's a choice every single day, like what you're thinking, what you're eating, how you're

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moving and for, I just want to encourage anybody who's listening to this, don't think you don't

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have time to do this.

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When you make the time to do this, you'll realize how much time you have to focus on

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it.

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Yeah.

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And what do they say that one hour planning is worth so many hours of work.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I figure out where your track is going to be.

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And I'm one of these people that like the FOMO and me, so I heard your word.

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I'm like, Oh, I really like that.

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No, I don't think that's mine.

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I don't think that's worth sitting because I don't probably don't need to imagine anymore.

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They are.

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I was watching last night.

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This is one of my favorite shows of the year, the Kennedy Center Honors.

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Do you ever watch?

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Oh, nice.

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Yeah.

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And they had it and I don't remember what artists they were doing talking about, but

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talked about the possibilities and imagined.

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The impossible dream that song.

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Oh, that's great.

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Yeah.

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And that was my favorite song.

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It's like, you know, anything is possible.

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I think that's part of the why not say message.

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Like we need to think bigger and believe better, bigger and trust.

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And if it's something that you're thinking about is keeping you up at night, you just

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can't let it go.

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Or someone says to you, Oh my gosh, you'd be so good at that.

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Or you do, you do such a good job.

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Or how do you do that?

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You're like, What do you mean?

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It's so easy.

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And then that's a hint like you need to do something.

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Live your life for not promise tomorrow.

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We got to enjoy it.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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And your father was such a great example of that.

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And that's my next question.

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Let's talk about my dad.

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How did you know him?

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What was connection?

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Do you remember your first encounter with Patrick Kane, which he was memorable?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I think we met at Reston Chamber of Commerce and somehow we ended up sitting next to each

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other at one of the outskirt tables, like, you know, not in the center of the room, but

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on the edge of the room.

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And it was some awards dinner.

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And I somehow got, I somehow won something.

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And so I walked up and got it and came back and we started a conversation.

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And at the time he was wheelchair bound.

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So it was after a stroke.

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Yeah.

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So he needed help moving around.

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And I was like, well, who do you want to see?

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I'll take you around and, you know, help you get around the room.

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And then somehow we, we struck up a friendship and I used to stop by and sit with him at

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his office and listen to him about how he imagined Reston.

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And it was so fun to be in his presence and hear his side of the story as a planner, as

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an urban planner, what he saw, what he realized and what else he thought was possible.

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And it was just so joyful to be able to have that precious time with him.

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And I think maybe we probably had five or 10 visits before he passed, but it was, it

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was such a fun time just to be in his presence.

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He definitely made people sing.

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And the kid growing up, I did not appreciate it.

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And I'm looking back, I definitely do in some of the conversations I've had with people

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since he's passed away.

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That he did, he made you think, he asked you questions.

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Yeah.

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He made you imagine and think bigger.

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And it's often, you know, living in Reston, which I've been here since I was two.

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And Reston, I think is a year older than me.

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People are always asking me like, what do you think of it change is so much so different?

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Like, you know, my dad was a planner and that was part of the plan.

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And it grew up around me and grew up with me.

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Yeah.

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So, and it's kind of a funny story is after he had a stroke, he was pretty much unconscious

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for months and in the hospital.

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And he would talk about the Metro coming to Reston and how there'd be commercial and

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retail all combined and residential.

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And they're like, oh yeah, he's still not here.

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And like, no, you know, when worked with downtown Herndon and things that he talked about 30

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years ago are happening now.

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Right.

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It's really incredible.

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Yeah.

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He gives me chills just thinking about it.

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Not bigger.

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And his imagination was unbelievable.

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So I definitely got some of that.

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Yeah.

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And I was going to say other ways to connect things that you said, obviously knew my dad.

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But I think I mentioned the other day that he had a cousin at Christmas tree farm in Seattle

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and he'd go help work the Christmas tree farm at Christmas and literally brought trees home

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on an airplane.

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It's crazy.

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I can't imagine.

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And then as kids, my parents bought property with other people off Route seven.

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There was a street going towards Lee's bestirling area.

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Utica, I think street or something.

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I don't remember the act, but we had a tree farm there and it was just and and we'd go

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cut wood for our fireplace.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then talking about one of the things he always said is asked, you know, you never

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know what somebody's going to say.

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But if you don't ask, the answer is no.

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Well, I always say that if you really want to become memorable, you have to be interesting

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and interested in the people in front of you.

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Yep.

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And, you know, there's so many topics we can talk about other than what's popular on

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Netflix or, you know, what the weather is like.

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I mean, the weather.

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Okay.

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Let's talk about it for three minutes and then move on.

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Because there's so many other topics.

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Were you standing me at, were you with me at the party when that gentleman walked up?

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I think you were because he thought you were married.

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Somebody thought you were married to him.

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He was standing there and he asked, he introduced himself like, what do you do for fun?

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Was a great question.

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That's a great question.

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Yeah.

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I don't know if you heard the rest of that story.

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The reason he asked that is he said a couple of years ago, he was an ICU and didn't think

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he was going to live and he had to call his daughters to say goodbye.

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Wow.

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And realize how precious life was.

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And so ask him, what you do.

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Which, you know, being in the Northern Virginia area, that's everybody asked that question.

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And the, the quest, the answer when people are like, how are you, everybody usually answers,

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well they used to answer busy.

491
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,040
Yes.

492
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,840
Now I think it's more overwhelmed.

493
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,840
Yeah.

494
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:50,840
Yeah.

495
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:51,840
And so how can we take time?

496
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,240
Like I love how I'm to the library for the day.

497
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,240
Yeah.

498
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,240
Yeah.

499
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,120
For me sometimes it's getting in a car.

500
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,120
Mm hmm.

501
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:07,280
And just by myself getting in the car, even listening to stuff for podcasts or even music,

502
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,120
but my brain starts to move.

503
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:10,120
Yeah.

504
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:16,040
And just, well, I do, I do know we have access to be pumping information into our brain all

505
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,040
day long.

506
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,040
Yeah.

507
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:25,240
And I think overwhelm is caused by feeling like you have to absorb it all.

508
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:31,840
And we get clear on what it is our purposes in life, we can begin to make choices about

509
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,160
what doesn't fit.

510
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:41,320
What and, and not to say that, I mean, I've been volunteering my entire career, but I'm

511
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:48,200
taking a volunteer diet because I want to focus on my coaching practice.

512
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:54,560
And then, you know, what's appropriate for the farm and what, what, what's possible there.

513
00:26:54,560 --> 00:27:01,120
Which means that my volunteer hours need to be just set aside for this season of life.

514
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,520
And I'll get back to it, but we have to make choices.

515
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,560
You never know where you're volunteering as you're working.

516
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,560
Yes.

517
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,560
Right.

518
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,200
You know, and what is volunteering but helping other people and giving back.

519
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,200
Yeah.

520
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,640
We can help other people and give back by doing what we do every day.

521
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,080
And you know, yeah, I always wear a starfish necklace often.

522
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,480
And did we talk about the starfish story?

523
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,480
No, we didn't.

524
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,000
Oh, yes, yes, yes, we did.

525
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000
Yes.

526
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,000
Yeah.

527
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,640
So, you know, you never know who that one person you're going to make a difference.

528
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,140
He's watching you.

529
00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:34,640
You have no idea who's paying attention, especially with social media.

530
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:41,480
And the one thing that I will continue to volunteer is, is helping young professional women who

531
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,080
need a mentor.

532
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,200
There's not, I didn't have one when I was in commercial real estate.

533
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,280
I was like flying solo.

534
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,920
There weren't many women.

535
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,560
I didn't have really anybody to help set the guiding path for me.

536
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,640
So I want to be that for others.

537
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,640
Yeah.

538
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,640
And I think we need that.

539
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,240
I think owning a business and figuring out what you're doing.

540
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,240
It's lonely.

541
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,240
Yeah.

542
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,200
I mentioned I had coffee with somebody the other day that started franchising.

543
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,520
She was almost in tears.

544
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,520
Yeah.

545
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,320
And said how lonely, nobody ever told her how lonely it was.

546
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,760
And she was going to be in an event with me the other day and couldn't come because somebody

547
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,760
called in six.

548
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,000
So she had to cover and she said, I texted her to say, are you okay?

549
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,080
And she said she was just pretty much having a meltdown.

550
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,520
I'm like, do you need anything?

551
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,360
And I ran into her again the other day and she was telling another friend that story.

552
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:28,360
She goes, Leslie cares.

553
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:29,600
I'm like, yes, I care.

554
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,600
Yeah.

555
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,600
Yeah.

556
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,840
And we need to be in community with each other to help each other on those spots, even

557
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,240
if it's just a five minute conversation, right?

558
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,360
It can really lift you out of the delt rooms.

559
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,360
Yeah.

560
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,320
And then going back to that ask, like if you need help with something ask, reach out.

561
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,520
And again, they could say no, but what if they said yes?

562
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,920
So what is that one thing that will inspire you?

563
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,840
And that goes back to your word courage Leslie, because sometimes we're not courageous enough

564
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,120
to ask for what we need.

565
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:08,000
And so, yeah, just get the courage to ask everybody about what it is, who do you know,

566
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,360
who do you know, like how can, how can, how can we be connectors for each other?

567
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,360
Right.

568
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,360
Exactly.

569
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,360
Ask who you're looking for.

570
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,080
And the one person I would love to interview in my podcast, and I've mentioned many times

571
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,240
is Daniel Pink.

572
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,240
Oh, yes.

573
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,240
I love his stuff.

574
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,240
Yeah.

575
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,400
He started a book called about regrets, or he wrote a book about the time I started

576
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,080
the podcast or I read it.

577
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,800
And he started an initiative with the Washington Post called why not?

578
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,240
I don't know if you've seen that.

579
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,240
Oh, no, I haven't.

580
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,960
A lot of people are like, you need to reach out to him.

581
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,800
So I did the other day, I sent him an email and didn't hear back, but I'm going to keep

582
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,800
asking.

583
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:52,320
Well, ironically enough, when he wrote his first book drive, I got to be on a call with

584
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:59,520
him and I got to talk to him about the educational system and how it has not redesigned to model

585
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,800
what he's talking about.

586
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:06,280
Well, one of his first question for why not was why not pay teachers $100,000 a year?

587
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Yeah, that's a great question.

588
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,280
Really?

589
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,240
Wouldn't that, wouldn't that transform the educational system?

590
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,240
Yeah.

591
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,240
Yeah.

592
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,240
I think so.

593
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,080
All right, we can talk forever, but how would you inspire somebody else, whether to say

594
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,520
why not today or for their work, finding their word or just to be creative?

595
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:30,400
Well, I would say, think about what you think about.

596
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,280
Notice what you think about.

597
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,280
Man, take your thoughts captive.

598
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:44,080
If your thoughts are motivating you, inspiring you, or if they come to life, then, and you

599
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,320
like it, keep it.

600
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,760
But if your thoughts and your words come to life and it's not in service to the people

601
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,360
that you love, throw it away.

602
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,360
Get rid of it.

603
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,280
Replace it with something else.

604
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,840
Take your thoughts captive because what we think about, we create.

605
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,840
Oh, true.

606
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,840
Amen.

607
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,000
So, so many good tidbits.

608
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,000
So thank you.

609
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000
And I will share all your contact information in the show notes.

610
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,960
And as people are listening to this, share your one word.

611
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,440
What do you do with it?

612
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,960
How has it evolved?

613
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,760
And then, or if you had a word last year, how, how did that change your life?

614
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,600
And obviously this could, somebody could be listening this 30 years from now.

615
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,600
Who knows?

616
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,800
But hopefully we'll make a difference.

617
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,400
So thank you, Freddie, for your insight and your stories.

618
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:34,840
And I can't wait to, I can't wait to imagine what happens in the new year for you.

619
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,040
Well, thanks for letting me be on your show, Leslie.

620
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,720
I'm wishing you the best luck.

621
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,080
Yeah, thank you.

622
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,200
And thank you, everybody, for joining us on this inspiring journey.

623
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,000
Where every day is an opportunity to take action, chase your dreams and make a difference.

624
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,400
So why not today?

625
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,720
You can subscribe, share and keep pushing forward.

626
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,800
Share more information about this podcast.

627
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,600
You can find everything you want about Why Not Today at the whynottaypodcast.com, wherever

628
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,520
you want to see or watch your favorite podcasts.

629
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,800
And we're actually on YouTube as well.

630
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,640
And I really want to spread the Why Not Today message with Why Not Today merch.

631
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,080
So we've got T-shirts and cups.

632
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,760
And let's share that message and encourage other people to be courageous.

633
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,800
So thanks again, Freddie.

634
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,800
Okay.

635
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,800
Why Not Today?

636
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,440
I just need to figure out how to turn this recording off.

637
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:42,120
Hi, everybody.

