Hello, my name is Leslie Kane.
I am the host of the Why Not Today podcast.
This is a podcast to celebrate people who have been courageous and said,
why not today?
I started this podcast in honor of my father,
Patrick Kane, who often did say, why not today?
I am based in rest of Virginia,
a planned community right outside of Washington DC,
and thanks for joining us today.
So my guests today, and I always say I'm excited about my guests,
and I am always excited.
My guests today,
kind of started in talking about her being guests several years ago,
and I'll never forget, I was walking out by my house
and ran into a friend of mine.
He's like, I want to be on your podcast.
And I'm like, what have you done courageous?
And he was like, I don't know, but you need to talk to Mina.
And he was telling me, so my guest today is Mina Lux,
and he was telling me about your story of your traveling.
And so I reached out to you, and it was literally a year or so,
because you were going through a lot of life.
I mean, I'm to find out you literally like,
I can throw a rock from my door and hit your house.
That's how close you live to me now.
And we met several years ago at a chamber.
I do distinctly remember one Christmas,
right before Christmas, coming into your office
and chatting with you and just talking about downtime.
And I just, I don't know, I felt a connection there.
And then, you know, you being here and walks and life happening
and really have connected with you.
And I'm super excited to finally have you as a guest
on the podcast.
And you did an adventure.
And we talked about that in some of your purge stories.
So, Ms. Mina Lux, introduce yourself quickly with like a,
and about your bio and a fast, fun fact.
Okay.
So thank you, Leslie.
I'm so excited.
I really enjoyed watching our friendship grow over the last
couple of years, and it's been a long time coming
to get to this point.
So I'm excited.
We're finally connecting.
It's awesome.
Fun are a little bit about me.
I've been in this area most of my life since I was nine.
I kind of grew up in Springfield.
I've been arrested for a couple of decades now.
And so, Native Virginia, Virginia,
and had a little bit of an unusual background,
which will kind of tie into my story.
But a fun fact is that I think I was a really angry youth.
I didn't realize it, but I was a metalhead.
First concert I did was Judas Priest.
And, oh, wow.
I never thought I'd be in there.
I never in a million years would think that.
That's fun.
All right.
So let's talk about courage.
What does courage mean to you?
So courage to me means, you know,
really following that intuition, you get that gut,
you get that little instinct of a pull towards something
that's usually very uncomfortable,
or just makes no sense.
You're like, I don't know why, but I think I need to do this.
And not having, you know, not taking the time to like talk
yourself out and be like, OK, I'm going to be led by that
feeling and that intuition and see where this goes.
I feel like courage just requires that of us to really attune
into what is next for us and start going for it and figuring
out where it's going to land.
So believe in that.
And just trusting that gut that tells you to do something.
Yeah.
And I have found really, I mean,
my life basically has followed that path, but really with this
podcast, like it is leading me to people and conversations.
And who would have known that conversation I had with,
we'll call him out in case he listens to it, Raj,
which is a whole other crazy coincidence.
But whoever would have known that that conversation would
have led to, you know, not just you as a guest podcast,
but reconnecting his friends and we've been through journey
together in the last couple of years.
And just following that gut, like, and I did keep reaching out
to you, just kept popping up in my head.
It wasn't that I was stalking you to go for a walk or to see you,
but when you popped in my head and I really tried to be true to
that in my world when I think of somebody to reach out.
Yeah.
And I was going to say, and I think that's courage to not like
get in your head and say, well, they're going to think I'm
stalking them.
I'm bugging them.
I'm like, I just felt like we had, we had a connection.
I didn't know what it was.
Yeah.
And I just felt like I loved about the perseverance in that,
um, not stalking and feeling.
I thought they cared for, you know,
and I was going through a tough time in my life and was kind of
more of an introvert and just taking some time to,
to figure myself out and you reaching out on a periodic,
but nice spaced out.
I was like, okay, you know, I'm still in her world and I still
matter to this person that I'm just getting to know.
And so it was just,
it was a beautiful way to show.
Um, and to feel cared for by your,
by your not getting into your head of like,
you know, what's going on?
And then,
when I was talking to her,
when I was talking to her about what it was,
what I was hearing and I was like,
what the hell is going on.
She's not really responding.
You know,
I was going through something and you were just giving me the
I didn't,
I didn't really know where they,
what's going on.
Yeah.
And so yeah, that's absolutely courage.
Listen to that intuition.
Listen to that voice.
I would say,
listen to the first voice,
not the second voice that talks to you out of the first voice.
Yes.
Do the thing and, you know, why not today?
Yeah.
So let's talk about your adventure.
Is it synergy design?
Synergy design and construction.
Yeah.
It's a design-built firm right here.
Yeah, it looked like construction girl.
You play with my girl.
So, but you did, had an adventure.
So let's talk about that and what, how do you want to,
you know, what motivates you to do that?
And let's talk about the adventure and what you learned
through the adventure.
And I'm kind of tying in how it ties to me
and I always talk about my dad and it definitely ties
into my dad.
So.
Perfect.
Yeah.
So, so my adventure, well, you know, this adventure,
I should say, started back in around 2019.
I was turning about to turn 50.
So I think I was just really looking at my life
and looking at what was going on for me.
You know, they talk about midlife crisis.
I didn't feel like it was a crisis,
but I just really started looking inward and saying,
you know, am I happy in the relationship,
the marriage that I was in at that time,
am I happy with my business and where it's,
where and how it's showing up right now?
And I didn't have any answers.
I just knew that I was kind of frustrated
and wasn't sure what to do.
And I was out to dinner with my husband at the time.
And it was something that, you know,
I'll talk a lot about spirit or whatever.
I feel like spirit just came right out of my mouth.
I said, I said, I don't know.
I just feel like I need to take a couple months
and drive across the country by myself or something.
And it literally came out and I was like, who said that?
I haven't been thinking about this my entire life.
Like it wasn't something that was like written down
in my goal or my journal.
Not your bucket list.
No, it just shot out of my mouth.
And next thing you know, you know, the next day he asked me,
he's like, so if you figured out when you're leaving,
because he knows me when I get my mind
it was something I kind of just do it.
And I said, yeah, I think this October, it was 2019.
I was like, I think leaving the end,
the beginning of October and then coming back
right before the holiday would be perfect.
And so that's what I did.
And 2019, October, whatever the first Monday in October was,
I hit the road and it was so fun.
What a perfect time in the world to have done that.
Not if you would have waited,
it would have been a whole different world.
Yeah, I had no idea.
You know, I came back at the very end of it and COVID hit.
Like I just hadn't,
it was literally right before COVID happened.
So how much time between when you've blurted out,
I want to go across country
until you've gotten your car in left.
And you're running a business too.
Like pulling yourself out of a business.
Exactly, we were running the business together.
We have a very strong team.
And so I knew that I could, you know,
log in remotely and be a part of client meetings if needed.
But I also knew I was very supported by the team.
And Mark knew that, you know, my husband at the time knew
I needed to follow my, follow what was leading to me
and leading me in that direction.
So, you know, he supported that decision as well,
even though it meant kind of uncertainty for us.
Yeah, so how long between when you made the decision
and when you got the road?
It was like three weeks, four weeks, within a month.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then we went on.
I was going to say, did you plan it ahead
or you just jump in the car and go?
Yeah, so I planned it ahead.
And of course me, I'm an entrepreneur.
So I first started turning it into a work thing.
So I'm like, okay, I'm going, I love,
I'm weird to talk about, I love videos
and I love interviews and I love that type of stuff.
So I brought my camera crit with me, a bunch of outfits.
And I decided I was going to go around the country
and interview women construction owners.
You know, like me.
So I'm like, oh, I'll just do like some video,
like not podcasts, but just interviews.
And I don't know what I'm going to do with it,
but that's a great thing to do.
So I started charting my course.
I'm like, oh, I'll go up the East coast
and go visit so and so up in Boston.
You know, I just, I found a couple people
kind of around the country and just started kind of spacing
them out of what I thought I would do.
So yeah, it was a little bit of planning in that regard
of just like where I was going to be when,
at least the first couple.
And I was like, I'll figure out the rest.
Did you reach out to friends?
Did you stay with friends?
Did you stay hotels?
Did you have a camper?
It was a combination.
I wish I had had a camper back then,
but it was a lot of Airbnb, some hotels, and then some camping.
So when I got over on the West coast, I loved to camp.
So I brought my tent and that type of stuff.
So I camped as much as I could.
It was October.
So, you know, going straight up into the Boston
and main area was chilly.
So I, and yes, I did stay with brands.
There was a former employee used to be a carpenter of ours.
He was up in that state in New York, so I stayed with him.
You know, as people started understanding
what I was doing on Facebook and everything,
I just started getting these invitations left and right,
oh, if you're coming my way, you know,
and sometimes I would like go their way.
I'm like, okay, I'll just stay with this person.
So just started having a life of its own.
Did you stay in places very long?
You were gone.
So you were gone three months?
Two months.
I did it in two, and it was funny just to circle back.
I ended up not.
I did like one or two interviews with people
and I realized this isn't about work.
You know, this is for me.
You know, this is the one time
not many people get a chance to do this.
So I put my camera equipment in the trunk.
I was like, I don't, I'm not doing that.
I'm gonna follow my heart and follow where I was being led,
which was work related.
So yeah, I ended up going to friends.
I ended up staying in Sedona for almost 10 days.
I fell in love with that.
I love the West Coast.
So I went up to, well, part of the journey too,
what I started realizing is I wanted to go to a lot of places
that I was little because I said I grew up in Springfield
since I was nine, but before that,
I lived in eight places before the age of 10.
I was gonna say, wasn't there a story
about your mom and her travels?
Yeah, exactly.
So I had a very unusual upbringing.
My mother, I never knew my dad and my mother was a hippie.
Literally, I was conceived at Woodstock.
And so whenever many, many jobs and I grew up,
or I was born on the West Coast.
So I lived in a lot of different places over there
in Missouri, Oklahoma, like I said,
eight places before the age of 10.
So I, and she was a long haul truck driver
as one of her last career or whatever.
And she had died in an accident at a particular bridge.
So I went to the bridge where she passed, you know,
and let that go through and allow myself to grieve
and really kind of delve into that part of my life
and my connection to her and disconnection
because that was a long time ago.
So it became a real big healing journey for me.
Did you start out thinking it was gonna be that way?
No, I thought I was gonna interview women.
That's amazing how that happens.
Oh my God, the path just totally opened up
and changed for me.
And I felt so loved and supported by the people
that were reaching out and giving me a free place to stay,
you know, right after I went to that bridge,
my friends like, oh, my friend's got a beach condo in Oregon.
You can just use that because it's all season
and was gifted this place to stay for three nights.
It just allowed me to again, process and go on
to a deeper level of all that pain
that needed to be processed.
And you were working through the courage
of the intuition too that we talked about
in the very beginning.
Yeah.
Like just being led.
And yeah, you planned it, but it hadn't been interesting
how we have a plan and then God throws it up in the air
and says, I'm gonna take you this way instead.
Exactly.
Totally shifts the plan and the open up of people.
And I think when you're open, then people are very generous.
Yes, so much so.
It's like that energy is met, you know?
It's like you're open so then the path just kind of opens up
and people meet you where you are.
I stayed with people and in places I never would have
if I'd been on my work journey that I had started at.
Yeah, so true.
We need to let go and fill our cup.
And that's one of the things I've been talking about
a lot with people is we need to fill our cup.
We are just exhausted, surviving.
And after the last three years of really surviving
and having to recreate businesses
and do so many different things.
And I think people are looking at, okay, what's next?
And what can I do?
And I've thought about this trip adventure many times.
When I was 16 years old,
I don't know what possessed my father to do this
or my parents, but they bought an RV.
And we went cross country for five weeks.
Five, yeah.
That's crazy enough, he owned his own business.
So he could work on the road.
And it's funny how much I'm so much like him
because the last few years I have done
not necessarily travel cross country,
but literally we had some stops of places
where he grew up in California and different things.
That was where he was from.
But a lot of it was like we would get up in the morning
and we would grab the then camper book.
He promised my mother that we would stay
in hotels majority of the time.
But we actually, I think we stayed in one or two,
stay in the camper.
Now the other really crazy thing about the story,
and I need to interview my mother on this about this,
is there are five of us kids at that point.
My youngest sister, the first four of us,
I was 16, so Chris was 12.
Amanda wasn't born yet.
Catherine was five weeks old when we left.
Five weeks?
Five weeks.
She spent the first five to 10 weeks of her life
on the road in the camper.
Is that crazy?
And I didn't appreciate it,
like the fact that my dad took five weeks from work
to go on a road trip with us.
And literally we would get the camper book out
when we woke up because we were teenagers
and pick where we wanted to go, stay,
because based on what pools and what amenities they had.
And then we'd stop at early afternoon
and my dad would go to the payphone and start working.
But so many cool lessons and looking back,
that I thought I really want to duplicate it.
Actually, after Raj told me about you,
that night I went to bed and I made a list
of the why not today road trip.
Oh, wow.
In all the places, and I know people all over the country,
all the places I wanted to go
and see and eventually I'm gonna have to do it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
But I always wanted somebody to go with me,
but I'm thinking it's probably gotta be a solo journey.
It's nice to be able to do that.
It really is just to kind of have that time for yourself.
Yeah.
And I love getting in the car and driving.
So, all right, so lessons learned.
Oh, lessons learned.
Or your favorite places, your favorite people or...
So what are the things...
Did you make new friends that you never knew
and are you still connected to people on the road?
Well, yeah, so a couple of questions there.
So my favorite place I'll share it was,
I decided to go when I hit California
to a number of the places that I'd lived.
And so I went to this one place,
it's called Sunset Beach,
it's right near Huntington Beach, right in LA.
And I pulled up, I just found the place.
Like I looked online to figure out what it looked like.
I remembered it in my mind
because it was my happiest childhood memories.
And I just pulled up and I went to the beach,
I just started crying because I just felt that energy.
I was like, oh my God, I remember these volleyball nets
and the sand type of things.
I knew I was in the right place.
And then I walked directly to my house
that I had not seen since I was seven years old.
Like I just went right to it.
So that was my favorite place.
I ended up staying there for two nights in a hotel
and like ended up going to this little bar
that was in this little community.
And I had a drink for mom with the locals.
And so it was really, really cool.
Lessons learned, oh my God.
Again, obviously following your gut
and that type of thing,
allowing yourself to be really open to whatever happens
and to allow yourself to put yourself out there.
Cause I could have done this very quietly
but I went ahead and put it on social media.
And I'm not a big social media person.
I don't post a lot.
But I said, you know what?
I'm putting it out there.
And that's what opened the doors for me.
And so, yeah, somebody that I didn't know that well,
I knew of her and we had met at networking events
is Sam Horn, who's like a author of a bazillion books.
She's extremely famous.
She was like, oh my God,
if you come to Colorado, come and stay with me.
And I stayed with her for two days.
She opened up her home, we went out to dinner.
She gave me writing tips on how to write a book.
And I mean, she was just so generous.
And so, you know, it's just,
I had that happen over and over and over.
I might need her contact information for my podcast.
Absolutely.
Yeah, so, yeah, there's no words.
No words.
People are very generous and people want to help.
And what we don't ask.
Yeah.
And so being open to asking,
and I love that you put it on social.
And, you know, I love and hate social media
that I didn't even know about any of this.
You know, all these things were happening.
Right, I know.
It's connection, but then it's not.
So it's like, how do you ever gather enough information?
You just wait for the algorithms
to put the right thing in your feed.
So it's a little odd.
Yeah, exactly.
So I don't want to talk about bad things,
but did you have any struggles or anything
that took the courage to plow through with you?
Yeah, I think it was an interesting time of my life.
And we can go back to kind of when we met.
And I was kind of going through it,
that we kind of hinted at, you know,
I came back from the trip and then COVID hit
very shortly thereafter.
And so I just kind of went back into my life, you know,
went back into my business, went back into my marriage
and just said, okay, I feel better
because I just did all this healing.
So it's like, okay, then everything must be fine.
Cause I just kind of went back to life as it was,
especially when COVID hit.
Cause it was just like, oh my God, the world's ending.
Like what's happening here?
So it took me a couple more years to realize, oh no,
I do actually need to make a choice
and a decision to leave the relationship.
And then actually put more energy back into my business.
So I ended up, you know, getting a divorce
and that's when we met and was kind of going
through that process.
And then purchasing them out of the company,
running synergy, you know, we've had this for 15 years
and I've been running it for myself now a year and a half.
And honestly, we've never been doing better.
The team is incredible.
The clients are incredible.
And I just had this whole new life and energy to me,
really being able to kind of steer it the way
and the direction that I want based on the foundation
that we had created together.
So it really all ended up in the end, great for everybody,
but it took me a couple of years to figure it out
even after my trip.
Cause I just kind of went right back into that old cycle.
For the hardest part, that second level of courage
was making a choice to leave that relationship, you know,
kind of in the eyes of everybody,
a lot of people in rest and know us and know our journey
and knew of my trip.
And then two years later to say, oh no,
I actually am leaving.
Like it was, it was a little odd.
And that took probably the most courage I've ever had my life
was to make that choice.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
And we all like that.
And I can see how happy you are
and how much you love your business.
And you know, those of us that own our own businesses,
we do love our business and we love to work.
And you know, one day I reached out to you
and it'd been a Sunday, I think,
and you said you went to the office
and just worked to lighten some night.
And that's when we love what we do
and we have that passion, we want to work.
It's not work, it's really good.
And I have a good friend of mine that works
for the school system and people that work like that nine
to five that whatever hours, they don't get it.
And I'm like, yeah, I work seven days a week,
but I can take three hours off on a Tuesday.
And you know, I have that flexibility
and I love what I do and it's fun to me.
And hell, it's fun for you.
Yeah, absolutely.
I love the flexibility of being able to get my hair done
on a Tuesday in the middle of the day.
Or if I need to go to the grocery store,
there's no lines because I'm not in the evening.
There used to be a lot more flexibility
or a lot more ease in doing things during the week.
But now it seems like everybody is out all the time.
There's nobody that works in Northern Virginia.
Fair enough, fair enough.
Anything else you want to share about your trip or?
Well, I will tell you, so I think it's fun
in that when I got over to the West Coast
as part of my trip, I love going down
the Pacific Coast Highway, so the whole California.
We did that in a 25-foot RV, by the way.
25, oh my gosh.
And at 16, I drove a lot.
My mom drove for 45 minutes
and my dad and I drove the rest of the time.
Oh wow.
And I was like, just got redrivers.
It was a great experience then.
Yeah, you're a great driver, I'm sure, because of that.
I don't know.
Yeah, when I was over there, I was like, I love this,
but I was kind of on a time schedule.
I had to go like to meet somebody else
that invited me or whatever, so I'm like,
I'm coming back here and renting a camper
and really spending some time on the West Coast.
So I actually did that just a few weeks ago
right around the holidays.
I flew over to California, rented a camper,
and spent 10 days over there visiting a friend
and then going out to Yosemite and just really enjoying myself.
And so that was kind of a bucket list of promise
that I had made to myself.
And I got so inspired, because I've always loved camping.
I mean, usually in a tent and everything,
but I came back, I'm like, all right,
I'm getting myself a little camper.
So I literally just bought a like a two-person camper.
It's one of those teardrop campers.
I can tie it or tug it behind my Jeep,
which was another thing that I purchased last year.
So just finding that new energy
and what really lights me up.
So I'm excited.
Yeah, I have a nice little camper that I can camp on.
And in the weekends, I can't wait for the nice weather.
I'm not a camper, but maybe you'll convince me to try it.
There you go.
So how would you encourage somebody else
to go on the trip, for do the thing,
is to listen to their intuition,
to be correct and say, why not today?
Yeah, I think because it's,
I'm thinking right now of the movie, The Matrix.
I've never seen that.
I need to see that.
Well, you're given a choice.
The guy's given a choice very early on
of going one direction or another.
And the guy who's offering the choice says,
well, you know, you know, kind of where this one takes you.
You're welcome to continue down this path
or you can go to this one that doesn't.
So I think the courage or if it's a trip
or if it's just taking a path that you haven't been,
it's a little bit more uncomfortable,
but yet it feels right to you or there's this pull.
You know where you're at.
You know where that ends, quote unquote.
So go that other path.
And I think that's always been kind of a, not a motto,
but I think it's kind of helped push me along
when something instead of just staying in my cocoon,
say, oh, but it's really comfortable right now.
I was like, no, let me just go and find out
where this leads and it's kind of scary,
but it's exciting and let's figure it out
and just know that you're held by friends, family,
you know, the energies that surround you
in your life here and beyond, quite frankly.
And isn't it so true that when you walk out
of that comfort zone and do the things that are a little scary,
that there's always blessings behind it.
Oh, you just never know.
And if you stay in the little cocoon
and don't try anything, you're missing out
in so many blessings.
I often quote Daniel Pink who wrote a book about regrets.
And he talked about, you rarely regret something you did.
We always regret the things we didn't do.
And so just do it.
And, you know, I always play the game in my head,
what's the worst thing that's gonna happen?
You know, when I put my job, it was like,
what's the worst thing that's gonna happen?
You know, the MK business didn't work
and I'd have to get another job.
And that was four years ago.
So, you know, starting the podcast, doing the things,
and sometimes, you know, and I know the struggles
were real for people.
Sometimes the why not today is getting out of bed.
Yeah, I've been there.
And there's blessings behind it.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, mental health is no joke.
And sometimes we get to those cycles in our lives
that really, you know, really have us go within,
in and go digging and kind of get through that pain.
But on the other side is that freedom and that, you know,
it's almost like the seasons, you know?
And I think that's one thing about my trip, I'll say.
I got to experience all four seasons in two months.
You know, I got the snow, the weather,
I got the Arizona heat, you know, that whole thing.
Really got connected to how much we're living
in the cycle of life.
And the seasons include our internal experience.
Oh, absolutely.
About our world.
Yeah, I heard somebody the other day saying, you know,
you're either in a, you know, you're in a growing,
a reaping, you know, there's a time, you know, winter time,
it's cold, I'm not a big outdoor person.
And, you know, I find I kind of go in and stay in
and do some projects in the house and other things
that you put off when it's nice out.
I'm not going to be in my house.
Right, right.
And though taking the time to work on us.
Yeah.
Is so necessary.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
So I love all the courage and all your stories.
I know you've got lots of things we could talk about
otherwise, but we're just going to leave it at that.
So I always taught, when I do these,
I always try to trace it back to my dad.
And I said, you've never done, didn't know my dad.
And people are like, I don't know, didn't know your dad,
heard of them or I didn't know him.
But so lots of things you said.
First of all, I remember that day at Christmas,
I came to visit you in your office
and you kind of gave me the little tour.
There's somebody you worked with.
He's like, you introduced me with Leslie Kane.
He's like, I know your dad or do you dad?
I don't know if he was still alive.
He may have been alive at that point,
but somebody that worked with my dad years ago.
So my dad's background was actually architecture.
That's what he went to school for.
He ended up doing more city planning.
So you definitely have that connection.
Obviously the trip that he did this adventure with us.
And he grew up in California.
He grew up in LA.
And I remember on our trip going to Huntington Beach
and driving past there.
And it was summertime, but I remember going in the ocean
when it was like, it was freezing.
And then also just the remote working part of the trip.
That was like what he did.
And, you know, not having a plan, which I love.
Well, and I love that his remote working was like
way before it's time.
Like if you just picture him had a pay phone, you know,
doing business like that is just-
Yeah, he was so ahead.
If you look back so ahead of his time,
because when I was 10, my grandfather passed away.
Okay.
In California.
And literally I remember coming home from school
and my mom's like, pack your bags.
We're going to California.
And my dad was on a trip and actually we met him
at the bottom of the hill in the cab.
And he jumped in the car and we all went to the airport
and we went to California.
And that was in October.
We stayed there until March.
Oh, wow.
March, I think.
We stayed in my grandfather's house to settle the estate.
And honestly, my parents,
my dad wanted to move back to California.
Yeah, that was his goal.
But he, my mom stayed there with us kids,
which I remember he, it was funny.
She has four kids.
There were only four of us at that point.
And like literally packed suitcases.
So she went to Toys R Us and popped the trunk open
and it was like Christmas.
I love it.
But, oh my gosh, we had so many fun adventures being there.
But he flew back and forth
because his business was all over.
And he worked remotely from there.
And then I remember being his kids, we'd go on trips.
We didn't necessarily go on spring break.
They just pull us out of school and we'd go on trips
if he had a job in Maine.
So we all went to Maine.
And I remember going to LL Bean in the middle of the night.
You know, because you go shopping in the middle of the night.
So yeah, we just jumped in the car and whenever
we just traveling, yeah, he did remote work
long before remote work.
Right, yeah.
What a great foundation for you.
Like what a great, just, you know, upbringing that you had.
And I know everybody has their challenges.
I'm not by any means perfect childhood.
But at the same time, it's like, what a great foundation
and what a roadmap he gave you so early in life.
That's such a, again, back to the blessings.
Yes, absolutely.
And as I'm getting older and realizing the things
and as I'm doing this podcast and talking about him more,
it's just really eye-opening that I am very much like him.
And following a path and yeah, I'm going to do that trip
one of these days.
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