1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,100 Hello, my name is Leslie and I am the host of the Why Not Today podcast. 2 00:00:06,100 --> 00:00:10,680 This is a podcast to celebrate people who have been courageous and said, Why Not Today? 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:16,060 I started this podcast in honor of my father, Patrick Kane, who often said, Why Not Today? 4 00:00:16,060 --> 00:00:20,440 I am based in Reston, Virginia, a planned community right outside of Washington, DC, and thanks 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,100 for joining us today. 6 00:00:22,100 --> 00:00:23,780 And I'm excited about my guest, Dawn. 7 00:00:23,780 --> 00:00:26,380 Croson, is that how you pronounce your last name? 8 00:00:26,380 --> 00:00:27,380 It is. 9 00:00:27,380 --> 00:00:28,380 Okay. 10 00:00:28,380 --> 00:00:34,380 I've literally just officially met her a few days ago, but I've heard of her and kind 11 00:00:34,380 --> 00:00:35,700 of seen what she was doing. 12 00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:40,260 And it was one of those things I have thought about reaching out to you a gazillion times 13 00:00:40,260 --> 00:00:41,500 in the last six months, Dawn. 14 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:45,640 And then, you know, life is just busy and somebody shared something like, you know what, 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,760 I'm just reaching out where I saw something on social media. 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,280 And you know, sometimes those things on social media, they catch you at the right moment. 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,280 Yeah. 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,360 So reach out, met with you, got to know you, and I'm super excited. 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:03,620 So Dawn is publisher, editor, CEO, founder of the, I don't know all the titles, but you 20 00:01:03,620 --> 00:01:09,380 can explain as we go on, the Reston Letter, which is a cool newspaper, like physical touch 21 00:01:09,380 --> 00:01:12,740 newspaper that is published in Reston. 22 00:01:12,740 --> 00:01:18,580 And since I'm a kid of Reston and grew up in Reston and been here pretty much my entire 23 00:01:18,580 --> 00:01:22,860 life, it really interests me and caught my attention because I think it's a super cool 24 00:01:22,860 --> 00:01:26,020 idea to share what's going on in Reston. 25 00:01:26,020 --> 00:01:31,060 And I know the first issue you came out, one of the things you said is, you know, we'd 26 00:01:31,060 --> 00:01:35,460 like to wear kids cutting our picture out from our soccer game or, you know, the different 27 00:01:35,460 --> 00:01:41,060 things and I've got boxes of articles cut out from everybody in my family. 28 00:01:41,060 --> 00:01:44,780 So I'm excited to have you and kind of share about the Reston Letter and then kind of a 29 00:01:44,780 --> 00:01:47,460 little bit, you got some other courage things going on in your life. 30 00:01:47,460 --> 00:01:52,940 So, Dawn, if you wouldn't mind, introduce yourself a little bit who you are, and then 31 00:01:52,940 --> 00:01:55,100 a fun fact and then we'll get into your courage. 32 00:01:55,100 --> 00:01:56,620 I'm excited to have you. 33 00:01:56,620 --> 00:01:57,620 All right. 34 00:01:57,620 --> 00:01:59,660 Well, thank you for having me. 35 00:01:59,660 --> 00:02:01,580 I've never been on a podcast before. 36 00:02:01,580 --> 00:02:02,580 Oh, wait. 37 00:02:02,580 --> 00:02:03,580 Yay. 38 00:02:03,580 --> 00:02:04,580 This is your first one. 39 00:02:04,580 --> 00:02:05,580 Yeah. 40 00:02:05,580 --> 00:02:07,980 So my name is Dawn. 41 00:02:07,980 --> 00:02:15,580 I'm actually, I'm from Idaho, but I have lived in Reston, Virginia for 20 some years. 42 00:02:15,580 --> 00:02:19,340 I have three boys, some a boy mom. 43 00:02:19,340 --> 00:02:21,580 Everything is very loud and smelly. 44 00:02:21,580 --> 00:02:24,220 And I'm a teacher. 45 00:02:24,220 --> 00:02:31,300 I'm an English teacher, have taught English and journalism over the past few years. 46 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:34,460 I think about 10 years. 47 00:02:34,460 --> 00:02:37,340 So I guess a fun fact about myself. 48 00:02:37,340 --> 00:02:43,180 I don't know that it's that fun, but I love baseball. 49 00:02:43,180 --> 00:02:47,220 So baseball has been a big part of my life since I was little. 50 00:02:47,220 --> 00:02:48,420 I used to listen. 51 00:02:48,420 --> 00:02:53,060 I have such fond memories of listening to baseball games because we never had, we barely 52 00:02:53,060 --> 00:02:55,380 ever had a TV growing up. 53 00:02:55,380 --> 00:03:00,180 My dad would be out working in the garage and he'd be tinkering around and he'd turn 54 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:05,260 on the radio and we'd listen to the Mariners as the, as a team that was closest to us. 55 00:03:05,260 --> 00:03:08,140 So collected baseball cards. 56 00:03:08,140 --> 00:03:10,060 My brother's played baseball. 57 00:03:10,060 --> 00:03:12,300 My sister and I played baseball. 58 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:15,580 So baseball is very much a part of my life. 59 00:03:15,580 --> 00:03:16,580 That's awesome. 60 00:03:16,580 --> 00:03:17,580 And did you play baseball or softball? 61 00:03:17,580 --> 00:03:18,580 I played softball. 62 00:03:18,580 --> 00:03:19,580 Yeah. 63 00:03:19,580 --> 00:03:20,580 Okay. 64 00:03:20,580 --> 00:03:21,580 Gotcha. 65 00:03:21,580 --> 00:03:23,740 Well, that's kind of fun how it's a very much a full circle moment. 66 00:03:23,740 --> 00:03:28,540 And I think we talked about this initially when we connected is John Pinkman, who has 67 00:03:28,540 --> 00:03:30,100 a baseball academy in Reston. 68 00:03:30,100 --> 00:03:31,660 You don't know him, but his son. 69 00:03:31,660 --> 00:03:33,820 Um, because I guess your boys played baseball. 70 00:03:33,820 --> 00:03:39,660 He is the one that originated the first thought about this doing this podcast because he's 71 00:03:39,660 --> 00:03:40,660 Oh really? 72 00:03:40,660 --> 00:03:42,900 Yeah, because he shared some social media. 73 00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:47,020 It was on next door, which I never go on and he had a picture of himself with an eye patch 74 00:03:47,020 --> 00:03:52,940 on because he'd had some surgery done eye surgery and, um, he picked, he talked about 75 00:03:52,940 --> 00:03:56,540 every time he looks in the mirror, he thought about my dad and he talked about things my 76 00:03:56,540 --> 00:04:00,900 dad had done and the community, but he also said, we both always said, why not today? 77 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:03,620 And that was kind of, I remember exactly where I was. 78 00:04:03,620 --> 00:04:08,860 And it was actually, um, it was September of 2020. 79 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:12,100 So two years ago, 2021. 80 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:16,100 And I remember exactly where I was sitting when I saw that I'm like, huh, interesting. 81 00:04:16,100 --> 00:04:17,980 So here we go. 82 00:04:17,980 --> 00:04:20,540 Full circle, baseball. 83 00:04:20,540 --> 00:04:22,220 Let's talk about courage, Don. 84 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:24,780 What does courage mean to you? 85 00:04:24,780 --> 00:04:35,020 Oh, well, to me, courage is like courage is looking at a decision, maybe action or inaction, 86 00:04:35,020 --> 00:04:44,460 I guess, um, and understanding why you should be afraid, probably being afraid, um, of, 87 00:04:44,460 --> 00:04:47,140 you know, making this decision. 88 00:04:47,140 --> 00:04:54,700 And also, so recognizing the risks, but recognizing the rewards and, you know, basically choosing 89 00:04:54,700 --> 00:05:00,380 to roll the dice and say, I understand what could go wrong, but I understand what could 90 00:05:00,380 --> 00:05:02,900 go right and I want to do that. 91 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:04,780 So I want to risk that. 92 00:05:04,780 --> 00:05:05,780 That's awesome. 93 00:05:05,780 --> 00:05:10,060 And I know you've done several courageous things in your life, kind of burn the boat 94 00:05:10,060 --> 00:05:12,060 kind of situations we talked about. 95 00:05:12,060 --> 00:05:14,500 So let's talk about the rest and letter. 96 00:05:14,500 --> 00:05:17,500 So what motivated you to do this? 97 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:18,500 Start this. 98 00:05:18,500 --> 00:05:19,500 Um, 99 00:05:19,500 --> 00:05:20,500 Sure. 100 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:23,380 So it's a pretty, pretty big undertaking. 101 00:05:23,380 --> 00:05:26,300 And I don't know if you've done a newspaper before. 102 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:27,300 Yeah. 103 00:05:27,300 --> 00:05:34,220 So I taught journalism when I went to the high school, started teaching at the high school 104 00:05:34,220 --> 00:05:35,820 that I'm at now. 105 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:40,180 There was a small journalism class and it was only online. 106 00:05:40,180 --> 00:05:42,900 They only did online publishing. 107 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:49,580 And then it was got to be so small that they shut the program down. 108 00:05:49,580 --> 00:05:54,620 And then a few years later, my department chair came and she was like, or said something, 109 00:05:54,620 --> 00:05:57,300 you know, to everyone, do you anyone interested in this? 110 00:05:57,300 --> 00:05:59,100 And I said, yeah, I am. 111 00:05:59,100 --> 00:06:05,020 Um, I, I did minor in professional writing and I did an internship at a newspaper in 112 00:06:05,020 --> 00:06:06,020 college. 113 00:06:06,020 --> 00:06:10,780 I was the opinions editor for the college newspaper. 114 00:06:10,780 --> 00:06:11,900 And I'm just a writer. 115 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:17,900 I've done freelance writing, you know, over the years and I love to write. 116 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:21,980 So I was like, sure, you know, I'll give it a shot. 117 00:06:21,980 --> 00:06:29,020 And I was able to get a recruit about, I think it took seven kids to get a class. 118 00:06:29,020 --> 00:06:32,380 So we got seven kids. 119 00:06:32,380 --> 00:06:39,340 And what I saw over those four years, we went from seven kids to, I believe it was 30. 120 00:06:39,340 --> 00:06:45,300 We can't, we, the class closed at 30 the last year I was there. 121 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:50,860 But what I really, what I saw from that experience and I learned a ton. 122 00:06:50,860 --> 00:07:01,100 But what I saw was the way that the, the physical copy of the paper brought the students together. 123 00:07:01,100 --> 00:07:05,860 You know, they were proud of what they created because it's a lot of work. 124 00:07:05,860 --> 00:07:10,460 And I just, I just made phone calls, did Google searches and figured it out because 125 00:07:10,460 --> 00:07:14,700 there was nobody whose place I was taking and the there hadn't been a physical paper 126 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:16,700 there for a long time. 127 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:26,340 Anyway, so I saw this, you know, this camaraderie among the, and just feeling, feeling of, you 128 00:07:26,340 --> 00:07:29,540 know, accomplishment for having this in your hand. 129 00:07:29,540 --> 00:07:30,540 And that was the whole thing too. 130 00:07:30,540 --> 00:07:31,900 I didn't want to do something online. 131 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:33,860 I wanted them to hold it. 132 00:07:33,860 --> 00:07:39,100 And I wanted them to take it around the school and show off their work. 133 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:44,300 And so the kit, the students came together. 134 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:50,140 And then the school community related to, because, you know, the, the teachers that 135 00:07:50,140 --> 00:07:55,060 were being written about and quoted and the athletes and the, you know, different clubs 136 00:07:55,060 --> 00:08:01,380 and all of these, all of these parts of the, of the school came together. 137 00:08:01,380 --> 00:08:07,980 And I mean, distribution day when we were, we were taking the papers around to the school 138 00:08:07,980 --> 00:08:09,460 became, you know, a huge deal. 139 00:08:09,460 --> 00:08:11,900 I mean, my kids love to do it. 140 00:08:11,900 --> 00:08:17,300 And, you know, working together just, it takes a lot of coordination to get, you know, pictures 141 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:26,460 and just all the articles written in, you know, so it, it was really an awesome experience. 142 00:08:26,460 --> 00:08:31,660 And I think everything this day is online and having that physical thing to touch. 143 00:08:31,660 --> 00:08:36,220 I still, like, if it's online, I'm not going to read it, but if I can, and a lot of times 144 00:08:36,220 --> 00:08:39,380 things that are online, I'll print them out so I can read them. 145 00:08:39,380 --> 00:08:40,620 Because yeah. 146 00:08:40,620 --> 00:08:45,980 And so then how'd you jump from a high school paper to your idea of the rest in letter? 147 00:08:45,980 --> 00:08:48,700 And I know you did some research and cool stuff around that. 148 00:08:48,700 --> 00:08:49,700 Yeah. 149 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:55,260 Well, it was, it was actually, and my husband doesn't even remember this, but it was his 150 00:08:55,260 --> 00:08:57,100 idea. 151 00:08:57,100 --> 00:09:02,900 He said something, and this was last summer, he said something like, you should do a rest 152 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:09,220 in newspaper, you know, and, and that was very flippant of him and he didn't think about 153 00:09:09,220 --> 00:09:13,460 it again, but, you know, I was like, yeah, I know. 154 00:09:13,460 --> 00:09:14,460 That seed was planted. 155 00:09:14,460 --> 00:09:17,460 I don't like John Biggsman and the why not today. 156 00:09:17,460 --> 00:09:26,100 The seed was planted and I went down and I went to the computer and I Googled how to 157 00:09:26,100 --> 00:09:34,460 start a community newspaper and, you know, like 10 things to do, whatever it was, and 158 00:09:34,460 --> 00:09:43,060 started researching things like, you know, printers and just all kinds of things that, 159 00:09:43,060 --> 00:09:47,220 you know, I've learned along the way I had to start from scratch. 160 00:09:47,220 --> 00:09:53,140 So but the thing is, I had the right connections because I'd been in the community for, you 161 00:09:53,140 --> 00:09:57,140 know, I think it's 23 years and three kids. 162 00:09:57,140 --> 00:10:04,420 So I know, you know, tons of parents and kids from sports teams and different schools because 163 00:10:04,420 --> 00:10:09,260 my kids have been in a couple schools since we moved once. 164 00:10:09,260 --> 00:10:14,460 And then, you know, so you just end up with, you know, you're knowing people on all kinds 165 00:10:14,460 --> 00:10:16,260 of different circles. 166 00:10:16,260 --> 00:10:20,980 And so, you know, the more I thought about it, I was thinking, I think, you know, I think 167 00:10:20,980 --> 00:10:27,380 I could actually do this or even this was a shot at least. 168 00:10:27,380 --> 00:10:32,780 And then, you know, it was like, well, I did get actually I have a story. 169 00:10:32,780 --> 00:10:40,900 So before I printed or, you know, actually not before I printed, I printed out a mockup 170 00:10:40,900 --> 00:10:45,740 of the newspaper just as has to see what the printer was like, the printer I eventually 171 00:10:45,740 --> 00:10:48,020 settled on. 172 00:10:48,020 --> 00:10:52,580 And the mockup explained my vision for the paper. 173 00:10:52,580 --> 00:10:59,300 And you know, my main point was to get advertisers with it because this was, you know, not doable 174 00:10:59,300 --> 00:11:01,900 without advertisers, of course. 175 00:11:01,900 --> 00:11:11,260 So I went to a, I won't disclose the place I went to a business close by a bunch of businesses 176 00:11:11,260 --> 00:11:12,260 close by. 177 00:11:12,260 --> 00:11:19,300 And I got one specific place I got, you know, and the gentleman was not rude at all, but 178 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:21,260 he just said that'll never work. 179 00:11:21,260 --> 00:11:22,540 That's not people. 180 00:11:22,540 --> 00:11:28,580 People don't want that, you know, some, you know, I've tried it before and it doesn't 181 00:11:28,580 --> 00:11:33,460 work, it just doesn't work and so it's like, okay, you know, but every month I bring him 182 00:11:33,460 --> 00:11:34,460 a copy. 183 00:11:34,460 --> 00:11:40,340 And the other day I walked into his shop and he looked at me and he's like, we need to 184 00:11:40,340 --> 00:11:41,340 talk. 185 00:11:41,340 --> 00:11:48,380 So I think we're going to be, you know, doing a story on him and he might, you know, there 186 00:11:48,380 --> 00:11:50,180 will definitely be a relationship there. 187 00:11:50,180 --> 00:11:53,700 So that was a rewarding little experience. 188 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:55,700 That's awesome. 189 00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:56,700 Yeah. 190 00:11:56,700 --> 00:12:05,020 Anyway, so another thing I wanted to do was I was, I wanted to be, I want to be free. 191 00:12:05,020 --> 00:12:08,900 And I don't want it thrown on yards and on sidewalks. 192 00:12:08,900 --> 00:12:10,580 I wanted it in mailboxes. 193 00:12:10,580 --> 00:12:15,420 So then I had to do all the research about the postal service and the different mail 194 00:12:15,420 --> 00:12:22,900 rates, you know, and then I sat down with a friend of mine who's a realtor and we knew 195 00:12:22,900 --> 00:12:28,820 we couldn't afford to ship to all residences in Ruston at least to start. 196 00:12:28,820 --> 00:12:34,580 So we sat down and we tried to pick different routes, you know, in different places, kind 197 00:12:34,580 --> 00:12:41,020 of cover Ruston north and south both equally. 198 00:12:41,020 --> 00:12:47,020 And so we picked these routes out and, you know, so we had to do that. 199 00:12:47,020 --> 00:12:51,620 At this point, it's not all Ruston yet, is it? 200 00:12:51,620 --> 00:12:53,180 Oh, it's right. 201 00:12:53,180 --> 00:12:54,340 It's not, it still isn't. 202 00:12:54,340 --> 00:12:56,740 No, it's advertisers. 203 00:12:56,740 --> 00:12:57,740 I do. 204 00:12:57,740 --> 00:13:00,460 It's a little over half. 205 00:13:00,460 --> 00:13:06,820 So, and, you know, this was another thing that made this more reasonable or doable, 206 00:13:06,820 --> 00:13:10,740 I guess, in my mind was that I didn't need much overhead for this, right? 207 00:13:10,740 --> 00:13:14,300 I just needed, you know, the software. 208 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:19,420 I needed to get the LLC, you know, I researched all that stuff. 209 00:13:19,420 --> 00:13:25,540 And it, you know, the website and the email, you know, there's not much expense there. 210 00:13:25,540 --> 00:13:32,340 And so as long as I could get the monthly advertising, you know, I could print and ship 211 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:34,220 and shipping is what's more expensive. 212 00:13:34,220 --> 00:13:35,220 Right. 213 00:13:35,220 --> 00:13:40,260 Well, we can talk about trying to get you some advertisers, but I want to go back to 214 00:13:40,260 --> 00:13:43,700 the Ruston letter, like where the name comes from, because I know there's history behind 215 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:44,700 that, which I love. 216 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:45,700 There it is. 217 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:53,300 I love history and I wanted the logo to be meaningful. 218 00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:57,220 And you can see it up here sort of. 219 00:13:57,220 --> 00:14:05,500 But I looked at the logo and kind of looked at, I looked at, you know, a bunch of old 220 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:06,500 stuff. 221 00:14:06,500 --> 00:14:07,500 I went to the Ruston Museum. 222 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:10,980 Which a lot of people don't know there is a Ruston Museum. 223 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:11,980 And it's amazing. 224 00:14:11,980 --> 00:14:13,980 It has all kinds of great things. 225 00:14:13,980 --> 00:14:17,860 And that's actually, I think I mentioned the other day, George Mason University has an 226 00:14:17,860 --> 00:14:20,140 extensive area of Ruston. 227 00:14:20,140 --> 00:14:23,140 Yeah, it's so interesting. 228 00:14:23,140 --> 00:14:24,140 And you're right. 229 00:14:24,140 --> 00:14:28,100 A lot of people who live in Ruston have no idea of this rich history. 230 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:34,380 That's what I love so much about the Ruston letter and the message is that I think you 231 00:14:34,380 --> 00:14:39,580 mentioned to me that somebody that lives at Ruston Town Center and those anybody listening 232 00:14:39,580 --> 00:14:42,100 that doesn't isn't familiar with Ruston. 233 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:43,980 Ruston Town Center is the new part of Ruston. 234 00:14:43,980 --> 00:14:45,340 Ruston is a plant immunity. 235 00:14:45,340 --> 00:14:51,220 But somebody at the Ruston Town Center said they learn more about Ruston reading your 236 00:14:51,220 --> 00:14:54,620 newspaper than they did and how many years they've lived in Ruston. 237 00:14:54,620 --> 00:14:59,100 Yeah, he said he'd lived, he picked it up and he read, you know, the whole thing in 238 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:03,940 probably half an hour, 20 minutes and said he learned more during that time than he had 239 00:15:03,940 --> 00:15:06,100 living at Town Center for five years. 240 00:15:06,100 --> 00:15:07,100 Yeah. 241 00:15:07,100 --> 00:15:09,060 So many valuable things in it, which I love. 242 00:15:09,060 --> 00:15:12,260 So the Ruston letter, that was the original Ruston newspaper. 243 00:15:12,260 --> 00:15:13,260 I think it was even before. 244 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:18,420 So yeah, so I'm there in the archives, you know, rummaging around. 245 00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:19,420 I sat there for hours. 246 00:15:19,420 --> 00:15:21,220 I probably really annoyed whoever was there. 247 00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:23,180 But it was just fascinating. 248 00:15:23,180 --> 00:15:28,460 And I found that there was a newspaper that was published in Ruston called the Ruston 249 00:15:28,460 --> 00:15:35,500 letter from 63 to 66, 67, something like that. 250 00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:42,020 And it was more like a newsletter and it was when the community was being built. 251 00:15:42,020 --> 00:15:46,300 So it was kind of an update on, you know, like the latest building projects and things 252 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:48,180 like that. 253 00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:52,220 They had a big thing about the dedication of the town. 254 00:15:52,220 --> 00:16:00,540 But yeah, so I looked up all the copyright, you know, information and the, you know, the 255 00:16:00,540 --> 00:16:06,140 reddit on the name told my friend who's a graphic designer, you know, kind of go with 256 00:16:06,140 --> 00:16:11,940 the mid century kind of, you know, lots of triangles, lots of angles. 257 00:16:11,940 --> 00:16:15,460 And then I went with the red and blue because of the two high schools. 258 00:16:15,460 --> 00:16:17,460 Oh, I did kind of say that. 259 00:16:17,460 --> 00:16:21,100 So and I love too what you mentioned is how you're doing this. 260 00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:23,500 It's not you by yourself. 261 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:28,220 And you said you've got a lot of students that you're using as interns, a lot of people 262 00:16:28,220 --> 00:16:34,260 in community and I think we talked about this the other day, the resting community is very 263 00:16:34,260 --> 00:16:36,660 community focused and wants to help. 264 00:16:36,660 --> 00:16:39,980 And I know that in a lot of people, I'll help promote it. 265 00:16:39,980 --> 00:16:41,220 I'll help you find advertisers. 266 00:16:41,220 --> 00:16:43,020 I'm not going to write for you though. 267 00:16:43,020 --> 00:16:46,900 I'll help you with a podcast if you want to do that. 268 00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:51,820 Everyone has their thing. 269 00:16:51,820 --> 00:16:53,060 Exactly. 270 00:16:53,060 --> 00:16:58,300 But yeah, I, you know, for the first issue, I, you know, kind of convinced some of my 271 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:01,060 friends to write some things for it. 272 00:17:01,060 --> 00:17:07,580 And I wrote, you know, an article about a promise to the community is what I called 273 00:17:07,580 --> 00:17:10,900 it that I'll keep this rest in. 274 00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:16,780 And anyway, so I, you know, I started with people I knew, obviously just writers I knew 275 00:17:16,780 --> 00:17:25,540 and that first issue that came out in January after it hit and I print 15,000 copies after 276 00:17:25,540 --> 00:17:31,220 it hit mailboxes, I got so many people are sending me their resumes, you know, they want 277 00:17:31,220 --> 00:17:34,420 to meet so they can talk about what they want to write about. 278 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:39,660 And that's just kind of been the way it's gone since I started, you know, I mean, after 279 00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:46,140 that January issue, I met, you know, probably two days later with a couple, two retired 280 00:17:46,140 --> 00:17:51,980 journalists who live here, you know, and just other people who want and been here for a 281 00:17:51,980 --> 00:17:55,940 long time and people who are new for one of the retired journalists. 282 00:17:55,940 --> 00:18:00,900 So it was, she was moving to the area during COVID and she didn't know anything about it. 283 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:05,980 And so, you know, she, and she's, like I said, retired journalist, so she knows exactly 284 00:18:05,980 --> 00:18:10,780 how to go out and find those stories, make those contacts, get the press, press releases 285 00:18:10,780 --> 00:18:12,220 and the press kits and all that. 286 00:18:12,220 --> 00:18:20,740 So she has learned a ton and she's been able to write and, you know, similarly, a gentleman 287 00:18:20,740 --> 00:18:26,820 who is a retired journalist as well, started his own newspaper years ago, like, I mean, 288 00:18:26,820 --> 00:18:28,500 just people coming out of the woodworks. 289 00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:30,620 Yeah, there's probably so many more. 290 00:18:30,620 --> 00:18:33,420 Somebody else that might be a fun connection for you. 291 00:18:33,420 --> 00:18:40,300 There's a person who's a couple of years older than me, his name is Tom Jackman and he writes 292 00:18:40,300 --> 00:18:41,540 for the Washington Post. 293 00:18:41,540 --> 00:18:46,260 But I don't know if you ever said, I'm not sure what, I don't think it's sports. 294 00:18:46,260 --> 00:18:49,020 I don't remember what he writes, but he writes for the Washington Post and been around for 295 00:18:49,020 --> 00:18:50,020 a long time. 296 00:18:50,020 --> 00:18:54,620 But he grew up here in Reston, went to high school, went to Harvard, but he might be kind 297 00:18:54,620 --> 00:18:57,100 of a fun person. 298 00:18:57,100 --> 00:19:03,780 Actually doing something I heard this morning, they're doing famous people of Reston, Restonians 299 00:19:03,780 --> 00:19:05,980 are doing an event the museum's putting on. 300 00:19:05,980 --> 00:19:07,380 Yeah, I saw that. 301 00:19:07,380 --> 00:19:08,380 Yeah. 302 00:19:08,380 --> 00:19:12,420 It's like the top Jeopardy winner who water rubrics with his mom. 303 00:19:12,420 --> 00:19:13,940 So it's just fun, all the connections. 304 00:19:13,940 --> 00:19:14,940 Yeah, it is. 305 00:19:14,940 --> 00:19:20,060 Yeah, I am excited about helping you promote this because Reston is near and dear to my 306 00:19:20,060 --> 00:19:22,500 heart and sharing what's going on in Reston. 307 00:19:22,500 --> 00:19:25,500 And I met with somebody this morning, talked all about you and your mission. 308 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:29,100 So we're going to find your average person to get to all of Reston. 309 00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:30,100 But it'd be awesome. 310 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:32,660 Yeah, I mean, it took courage to do this. 311 00:19:32,660 --> 00:19:37,900 But when we were talking, I think the bigger courage part, I mean, it took courage to do 312 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:43,260 this, but I think your past really gave you the courage to step out. 313 00:19:43,260 --> 00:19:49,140 And as you said, because of your past and medical issues, it's giving you the space 314 00:19:49,140 --> 00:19:50,380 to do this. 315 00:19:50,380 --> 00:19:56,220 So share, I love the story of, and this is, I think, a bigger courage is how you got to 316 00:19:56,220 --> 00:19:58,020 Reston from Idaho. 317 00:19:58,020 --> 00:19:59,020 Yeah. 318 00:19:59,020 --> 00:20:04,540 So when I was 21, I was in a car accident. 319 00:20:04,540 --> 00:20:11,060 I was my senior year of college, really bad car accident. 320 00:20:11,060 --> 00:20:13,460 I was alone on the road. 321 00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:14,740 It was early in the morning. 322 00:20:14,740 --> 00:20:26,180 I hit a sign, a building finally stopped or came to total the car on a telephone pole 323 00:20:26,180 --> 00:20:30,180 and I broke seven bones. 324 00:20:30,180 --> 00:20:41,420 My left, every limb except my right arm and my skull, my, like the orbital bones around 325 00:20:41,420 --> 00:20:43,500 my, one of my eyes. 326 00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:51,260 And so I had to drop out of college a semester before I graduated and I'd been playing softball 327 00:20:51,260 --> 00:20:55,380 and so that part sucked. 328 00:20:55,380 --> 00:20:58,700 But mostly I was a semester away from graduating. 329 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:05,340 I just finished my student teaching and I had to move back in with my parents and I could 330 00:21:05,340 --> 00:21:06,580 do nothing. 331 00:21:06,580 --> 00:21:07,820 I could do nothing. 332 00:21:07,820 --> 00:21:08,820 Yeah. 333 00:21:08,820 --> 00:21:09,820 Yeah. 334 00:21:09,820 --> 00:21:16,700 And so, you know, I spent then, I didn't walk for six months. 335 00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:26,220 I had several bone graft surgeries and, you know, physical therapy and I mean, during 336 00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:36,140 that time so many people showed so much kindness and compassion for me that, you know, I would, 337 00:21:36,140 --> 00:21:42,380 I tried to, I try to replicate that whenever I can because it didn't mean so much to me. 338 00:21:42,380 --> 00:21:55,540 But I recovered and then I, a year and a half later, I was about ready to graduate because 339 00:21:55,540 --> 00:22:01,780 I did get to go, I went back to college and I got to minor in professional writing and 340 00:22:01,780 --> 00:22:07,540 that's when I started working at the newspaper and I wasn't planning to do that, the minor, 341 00:22:07,540 --> 00:22:10,780 but I had an extra semester so I did that. 342 00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:19,780 And anyway, I, a couple weeks before graduation, I was in a car accident again, same, pretty 343 00:22:19,780 --> 00:22:20,780 much the same thing. 344 00:22:20,780 --> 00:22:27,540 I went through a four-way stop and hit a retaining wall this time and a biker saw me and I was 345 00:22:27,540 --> 00:22:29,300 having a seizure. 346 00:22:29,300 --> 00:22:35,700 And so, but you didn't know that you know, and we still don't know why I had the first 347 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:40,300 accident, but we can only assume it was a seizure, you know, but also I fractured my 348 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:42,900 skull so I could be having seizures from that. 349 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:45,820 So we don't, we don't know. 350 00:22:45,820 --> 00:22:53,380 And I did not break bones in that, in that accident, I heard my back, but mostly, you 351 00:22:53,380 --> 00:23:02,660 know, I was then diagnosed with a seizure disorder and got on medication and so I couldn't 352 00:23:02,660 --> 00:23:05,660 drive, you know, and that was a big deal. 353 00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:11,660 I was living outside of Boise, Idaho and looking for a teaching job and, you know, I could 354 00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:17,740 probably get a teaching job there, but I had a friend who lived out in Washington, DC, 355 00:23:17,740 --> 00:23:22,820 and I have, and I'll call him, I live in Richmond and I visited out here, but she was working 356 00:23:22,820 --> 00:23:27,140 on the hill with an Idaho congressman and she was like, come live with me, you know, 357 00:23:27,140 --> 00:23:33,020 and I knew the metro and buses are way more effective here than, than in Boise and I know 358 00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:39,820 that I could get, you know, have a good chance of getting a job, better chance where there's 359 00:23:39,820 --> 00:23:41,300 the population is so much. 360 00:23:41,300 --> 00:23:45,140 And so I love the courage component that you bought a one way ticket. 361 00:23:45,140 --> 00:23:47,140 I bought a one way ticket. 362 00:23:47,140 --> 00:23:51,700 I was like, you know what, just, I'm just going to buy a one way ticket and my dad thought 363 00:23:51,700 --> 00:23:52,700 it was crazy. 364 00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:57,500 He was not a fan, but I was like, well, you know, I'm just going to do it. 365 00:23:57,500 --> 00:24:02,380 So I did it and I don't think that I thought about it very much really. 366 00:24:02,380 --> 00:24:06,860 I did know that, well, if it doesn't work out, you know, I have family in Richmond and 367 00:24:06,860 --> 00:24:10,380 I could go, I'll work it out, you know, it'll work out. 368 00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:15,180 And that's what courage is, I think, you know, just taking one step and you don't know what 369 00:24:15,180 --> 00:24:16,180 it's going to look like. 370 00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:17,180 So did you move? 371 00:24:17,180 --> 00:24:22,340 I know you got a job before you moved here actually, but did you move initially or somewhere 372 00:24:22,340 --> 00:24:23,340 else? 373 00:24:23,340 --> 00:24:31,660 Nope, I moved to Arlington first and I was teaching in Alexandria and then I ended up 374 00:24:31,660 --> 00:24:37,460 in Ruston a few years later and I've been here ever since. 375 00:24:37,460 --> 00:24:45,140 And I love, I was going to say, I love how you talked about being in Ruston and because 376 00:24:45,140 --> 00:24:47,580 I didn't even know you didn't drive until the end of our conversation. 377 00:24:47,580 --> 00:24:52,660 We're talking about this, how Ruston can support you and help you. 378 00:24:52,660 --> 00:24:58,780 I mean, there's past, there's things close by, you can walk, there's underpass, but the 379 00:24:58,780 --> 00:25:05,940 other thing I love the courage piece, I don't know if it's a courage piece, but you've had 380 00:25:05,940 --> 00:25:11,580 to design your life around your, I don't know if it's considered a disability, but your 381 00:25:11,580 --> 00:25:13,660 restriction of not being able to drive. 382 00:25:13,660 --> 00:25:22,980 But what I love too is what she said is that you have the time on the paper and develop 383 00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:26,940 that because you're not driving all over North Virginia and being Uber driver. 384 00:25:26,940 --> 00:25:31,980 Your husband, unfortunately, has three teenage boys. 385 00:25:31,980 --> 00:25:37,820 And so it's opened up, so it's a, it's interesting, the courage, you know, something that happened 386 00:25:37,820 --> 00:25:43,820 in your life, you've been able to turn lemonade and lemons into lemonade and see the silver 387 00:25:43,820 --> 00:25:44,820 lining. 388 00:25:44,820 --> 00:25:48,580 And I think what I love about your story is it gives people hope. 389 00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:52,860 And I think that's one thing that I really want this podcast to do is give people hope 390 00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:56,100 that, okay, this happened, but okay, what can I do with it? 391 00:25:56,100 --> 00:26:01,860 You know, what, you can be a victim or a victor and be able to shine a light. 392 00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:06,260 And I think that's, I love that part of your story as much as the courage just to start 393 00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:08,260 the newspaper is. 394 00:26:08,260 --> 00:26:09,260 Yeah. 395 00:26:09,260 --> 00:26:15,780 And Reston is just the perfect place to do, yeah, the paths to get around and it has this 396 00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:20,020 kind of a small town-ish feeling. 397 00:26:20,020 --> 00:26:27,500 And yeah, I mean, I was telling you this the other day too, what I've learned, I get to 398 00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:29,300 know the best parts of people. 399 00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:30,940 I was telling you this. 400 00:26:30,940 --> 00:26:32,220 That's awesome. 401 00:26:32,220 --> 00:26:37,700 I get to know the parts of the people who will just, you know, it's raining, let me go 402 00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:40,180 pick up your kids for you. 403 00:26:40,180 --> 00:26:44,500 You know, I had a neighbor once drive me to the emergency room because one of my sons 404 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:45,500 cut his knee open. 405 00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:51,940 You know, these times when you feel, I mean, not driving is my least favorite part of my 406 00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:57,380 life and that dependency on others is my least favorite part of my life. 407 00:26:57,380 --> 00:27:03,020 And it has shown me sides to people that I wouldn't have seen before. 408 00:27:03,020 --> 00:27:05,380 I wouldn't have seen if I didn't need them. 409 00:27:05,380 --> 00:27:12,700 And just to be able to accept help from others, I think is, you know, it takes a lot. 410 00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:18,060 I don't want to be, you know, I don't like being the mom who, you know, can't just go 411 00:27:18,060 --> 00:27:21,180 run your, run her kid across town to a friend's house. 412 00:27:21,180 --> 00:27:24,500 You know, I don't like that. 413 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:25,500 But I... 414 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:28,380 Your kids have their friends over at your house. 415 00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:29,380 So you know what's going on. 416 00:27:29,380 --> 00:27:31,860 What I've heard is important. 417 00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:32,860 Yeah. 418 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:35,660 And I love how you shared that you get to see the better side. 419 00:27:35,660 --> 00:27:40,260 And you probably, because you're riding a bike or you're walking, you have more time 420 00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:46,540 to think and you're not like the machine of us being in a car and like, you know, the 421 00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:52,060 horror stories you hear about people leaving a child in a car and not because they're taking 422 00:27:52,060 --> 00:27:55,180 people, but because we're so distracted. 423 00:27:55,180 --> 00:27:59,100 Like after a few places and I'm like, how did I get here? 424 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:02,780 I wasn't even, you know, because you're just in a static mode. 425 00:28:02,780 --> 00:28:07,180 So we could talk forever and ever and ever, but I don't want, I try to keep it concise 426 00:28:07,180 --> 00:28:08,180 for less. 427 00:28:08,180 --> 00:28:14,540 So how would you encourage somebody else to live their dream and do the thing to say 428 00:28:14,540 --> 00:28:18,020 why not today? 429 00:28:18,020 --> 00:28:19,020 Let's see. 430 00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:25,860 I think I know that people usually regret not doing things more than they regret doing 431 00:28:25,860 --> 00:28:28,500 things in their life. 432 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:32,060 And you know, it's a short life. 433 00:28:32,060 --> 00:28:33,060 I don't know. 434 00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:34,060 I mean, take a chance. 435 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:37,140 You have a dream. 436 00:28:37,140 --> 00:28:39,820 You know, go for it. 437 00:28:39,820 --> 00:28:40,820 I don't know. 438 00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:47,300 I mean, you can, you can, you can come up with as many excuses as possible and, but 439 00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:53,460 also surround yourself by people who are affirming and who will believe in you. 440 00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:59,180 I mean, I can't say enough about my husband and I really couldn't do, I mean, I've written 441 00:28:59,180 --> 00:29:07,660 a novel, I've done this newspaper project and I'm all the while working or teaching 442 00:29:07,660 --> 00:29:14,260 full time and I could never do that without him, you know, driving the kids all over town 443 00:29:14,260 --> 00:29:17,540 without him, you know, doing the dishes all the time. 444 00:29:17,540 --> 00:29:23,540 And all of a sudden, I love that you have the support of the community. 445 00:29:23,540 --> 00:29:26,340 And so, you know, buy the one way ticket. 446 00:29:26,340 --> 00:29:28,340 Yeah, just do it. 447 00:29:28,340 --> 00:29:31,180 And that's often what my dad said, what's the worst thing that can happen. 448 00:29:31,180 --> 00:29:33,620 And when I quit the job, it was the same kind of thing. 449 00:29:33,620 --> 00:29:36,100 Like if it doesn't work, another job. 450 00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:38,140 And you know, you just, you got to try. 451 00:29:38,140 --> 00:29:39,340 And I think that's the thing. 452 00:29:39,340 --> 00:29:45,780 I really want this podcast to share and the message to people to try it and to get involved. 453 00:29:45,780 --> 00:29:50,660 And so, you know, if you're listening to this and, you know, you don't get the rest 454 00:29:50,660 --> 00:29:53,820 in lettering, you want it, let us know. 455 00:29:53,820 --> 00:29:56,900 And you know, if you want to be an advertiser, you want to help support her if you're a writer, 456 00:29:56,900 --> 00:29:59,020 which is not me. 457 00:29:59,020 --> 00:30:04,980 I'm happy to share my story and I got lots of help you with this. 458 00:30:04,980 --> 00:30:09,740 So I always try to share, go back on my podcast and say, okay, what's the connection with 459 00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:10,740 my dad? 460 00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:13,620 Well, obviously you never met him. 461 00:30:13,620 --> 00:30:18,140 But, or and, you know, immediately when you told me your story of your car accident, it 462 00:30:18,140 --> 00:30:19,780 was like, oh, that's the connection. 463 00:30:19,780 --> 00:30:24,660 So my dad, the night he graduated high school, got in a car accident and almost died. 464 00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:26,860 And that's where he lost sight in one eye. 465 00:30:26,860 --> 00:30:29,020 And that's why he's always black or an eye patch. 466 00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:33,980 And so that's the logo of the podcast is an eye patch and a handle on mustache because 467 00:30:33,980 --> 00:30:36,820 that's how we looked and that was his logo. 468 00:30:36,820 --> 00:30:41,540 But he, you know, he had to do a similar thing to you, like you, he had to pivot, he had 469 00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:42,540 to do plan B. 470 00:30:42,540 --> 00:30:47,100 And actually at his funeral, my brother's talked about, you know, he always had plan 471 00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:50,700 A and B, C, he was a planner, but the plans often went out the window. 472 00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:54,540 So he was supposed to play football for USC and didn't happen. 473 00:30:54,540 --> 00:30:56,940 And he ended up going to Notre Dame. 474 00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:58,820 And that's where I met my mom. 475 00:30:58,820 --> 00:31:01,820 And, you know, all these things wouldn't have happened. 476 00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:03,140 And he wouldn't have been on the path. 477 00:31:03,140 --> 00:31:05,940 And we probably never would have been arrested because it was in California. 478 00:31:05,940 --> 00:31:06,940 Yeah. 479 00:31:06,940 --> 00:31:09,820 That, you know, we wouldn't have been sitting here talking. 480 00:31:09,820 --> 00:31:15,740 And so there's so many things that just that one pivotal thing that changes the trajectory 481 00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:19,500 of your life completely, you know, where it's going to take you. 482 00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:22,980 And I often go back to like, okay, what's that one thing or that one person you met 483 00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:27,460 that led you to that other thing and whatever. 484 00:31:27,460 --> 00:31:28,820 So so much cool stuff. 485 00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:30,340 And as I said, we could talk forever. 486 00:31:30,340 --> 00:31:33,540 And I know when we talked today, you were talking about maybe one do a podcast and I 487 00:31:33,540 --> 00:31:35,820 would happily help you do that. 488 00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:40,420 And lots, lots of people I connect can connect you with for the rest of the letter, but we're 489 00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:42,060 going to get some more advertisers. 490 00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:48,540 And I know your dream is to do this full time, which yeah, that's so possible. 491 00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:51,220 So making a difference. 492 00:31:51,220 --> 00:31:52,660 So thank you for your time. 493 00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:56,940 So to find you will share all your contact information, the show notes, the rest in 494 00:31:56,940 --> 00:32:00,980 letter is that online can people get an online copy or is it just physical? 495 00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:06,380 Yeah, we've got well, I published the PDF version of the paper. 496 00:32:06,380 --> 00:32:08,380 So it's not you can't look up an article. 497 00:32:08,380 --> 00:32:12,180 It's not like, you know, vlog kind of format, but it's all online. 498 00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:16,660 So you can look at it the way that it's laid out in the rest and letter.com. 499 00:32:16,660 --> 00:32:18,860 Set your website, the rest and letter.com. 500 00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:20,980 And you've got a Facebook and Instagram. 501 00:32:20,980 --> 00:32:22,460 I'm assuming all the stuff. 502 00:32:22,460 --> 00:32:23,460 Yes. 503 00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:24,460 Yeah, all of the things. 504 00:32:24,460 --> 00:32:25,460 Yep. 505 00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:27,260 So this has been so much fun. 506 00:32:27,260 --> 00:32:30,940 And as I said, we could talk forever and ever and ever and in closing thoughts on courage 507 00:32:30,940 --> 00:32:34,260 or encouragement. 508 00:32:34,260 --> 00:32:38,460 Um, I don't, I don't think so. 509 00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:44,300 I mean, you know, well, actually, you know what, one thing real quick, one of the questions 510 00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:48,580 you had, you had sent to me was, is you ever regret doing it? 511 00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:52,220 And the, and, and my answer is yes, I do sometimes. 512 00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:54,260 It's frustrating and it's hard. 513 00:32:54,260 --> 00:32:56,300 You know, but that doesn't mean it was wrong. 514 00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:57,820 And it doesn't mean it's not worth it. 515 00:32:57,820 --> 00:33:01,620 So, you know, it's not, it's not always going to be, you know, 516 00:33:01,620 --> 00:33:05,300 I'm trying to have unicorns and rainbows. 517 00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:06,300 Exactly. 518 00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:07,300 Unicorns and rainbows. 519 00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:08,900 But yeah, but it is worth it. 520 00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:11,900 And, you know, to see people be able to share. 521 00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:14,420 Um, and it's amazing. 522 00:33:14,420 --> 00:33:15,420 Yeah. 523 00:33:15,420 --> 00:33:18,860 And you just never know whose life you're going to touch by something. 524 00:33:18,860 --> 00:33:21,020 And that's kind of the motto I live by. 525 00:33:21,020 --> 00:33:26,740 So the podcast is, you know, on all the platforms, um, we have a website. 526 00:33:26,740 --> 00:33:31,100 Um, we can get the swag, the t-shirts, the cups, the vinyls, all the fun stuff. 527 00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:35,140 So spread the word and encourage somebody else today to say, why not today? 528 00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:39,020 So thanks again, Don, for being my guest and welcome. 529 00:33:39,020 --> 00:33:40,020 Thank you. 530 00:33:40,020 --> 00:33:41,020 You're welcome. 531 00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:45,100 I'm excited to see what happens with the, um, the rest in letter. 532 00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:46,100 Me too. 533 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:47,100 All right. 534 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:48,100 Thanks everybody. 535 00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:49,100 Thanks for listening. 536 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:51,100 Thank you.