Hello, my name is Leslie.
I am the host of the Why Not Today podcast.
This is a podcast to celebrate people who have said or been courageous and said, why
not today?
I started this podcast in honor of my father, Patrick Cain, who often did say, why not today?
I'm based in Reston, Virginia, playing community right outside of Washington, DC.
And thanks for joining us today.
And I'm excited about my guests.
I don't know her well and just connected with her this week.
Her name is Linda Sunshine West.
And she does lots of different things.
And I always talk about where we met and how we connected.
And it was one of those random scrolls through Facebook.
I joined an entrepreneurs women group, another random, like mindless thought thing.
And then she posted a post about who knows who has a podcast.
And I shared mine and she's like, I need to talk to you.
And she's done some cool things about overcoming fear.
So we had a quick call the other day and fell in love with everything she's doing and how
she's overcoming fears.
And I'm like, she's a perfect guest for this podcast.
So Linda, if you wouldn't mind introducing yourself a little bit about you and a fun
fact and then we'll get to know you and all your courage.
Awesome.
Thanks so much, Leslie, for having me excited.
I love those kinds of connections because, you know, that's the thing is if we reach
out to people and they accept our reach out, then you never know where it's going to go.
And that's kind of the idea of how I live my life now, which I wasn't always that way.
My name, Linda Sunshine West and Sunshine is not my given name.
It's the name that was given to me about six years ago after I started my personal development
journey as well as after I broke through one fear a day for an entire year, 365 days in
a row.
And that's when my life really, really started changing.
I have morphed and changed so many different directions that it took me six years as an
entrepreneur after being in the corporate world for 36 years and having 49 jobs in that
company, that's the other day that blew my mind.
I was shooting for 50.
No, I couldn't go for that 50, you know, but after breaking through those fears, you
know, my whole life started changing and shifting and and it's incredible what has happened
since then because I kept trying to figure out like, who am I, what do I do, and how
can I make money doing that as an entrepreneur and it took me six years to get there.
We almost became homeless in the process because I didn't have that one piece figured out the
important piece like how am I going to make money doing it.
But I finally figured it out and it was only two years ago, I mean, almost, almost two
years ago, it was 23 months ago that I decided that book publishing is what I was going to
do full time.
And so I've been doing that ever since it's been an amazing journey and you know, things
just started really falling into place once I had that decision that this is what I'm
going to do.
And so, you know, there's so many things I've done in these last several years.
Well, let's get into all the courage stuff.
But what's a fun fact about you?
A fun fact is that there's a lot of them.
One is that I started playing bass guitar at age 47.
Oh, well, I started a rock band called useless rhetoric and we raised over $200,000 for charity.
That's like my funnest fact.
That is fun.
You know, and it's funny how you just kind of and I don't definitely believe they're
Godwinks like God puts these people in your path and one of the hats I wear and my crazy
all the things I do in my life is I book music for a friend's restaurant and bar.
And it's kind of funny.
It's all of a sudden people around me grab it like, oh, I'm in a band or I know somebody
in a band.
I'm like, of course you do.
But I think you're a little too far away.
You're in San Diego.
So it's probably hard to book you to play in Virginia.
But that's definitely a fun fact.
So I always start with these podcasts episodes asking my guests, what does courage mean to
you?
Courage to me is acknowledging, first of all, acknowledging that I'm experiencing a fearful
moment and then saying, oh, this is fear.
I'm going to do this because I'm scared.
To me, that's what courage is.
I love that.
And it's funny, we've talked about this often, but people say, you know, they think fear
is more, or courage is more, you know, people are courageous and they just do it without
fear.
I'm like, oh no, definitely not.
No, not really.
So you wrote a book and before you did that, you start, tell us, I guess, you did, faced
365 fears in a year, which is crazy.
One a day and I was telling somebody that story the other day and I'm like, wow, that's
a lot of fear.
But and it's amazing, you know, all the little teeny tiny things we overcome and I always
talk about with why not today.
It's not always the big things, which we talk about on the podcast, but it's a little things.
It's the same yes to, you know, doing the thing with a friend or calling the friend
or just those little things.
And so I know it started kind of your journey started at five.
So share your story from there and then how you got to the facing your fears and everything
else.
Okay.
So yeah, well, I ran away at five years old and I was gone for a week.
Now I was safe.
I just went to the neighbor's house.
That's the first question people always ask me where you go, where'd you go?
I just went to the neighbor's house and I was safe.
But what happened during that week was something that would shape my life for the next 46 years.
Nobody came to get me.
So as a five year old, my belief was that they didn't come to get me because they don't
want me around and they don't like me.
That was my belief.
And so no matter what they believed, it was not my truth.
My truth was that and that's how I lived.
And so after a week, my mom to call the neighbor and said, okay, it's time to set her home
now.
She's been gone long enough.
Now I truly believe and I cannot confirm this with my mom because she's passed away,
but I truly believe that my mom was like, okay, she's safe.
I know she's good.
I'm number four or five kids.
She's got plenty of things on her on her hit list, but she knew where I was.
She knew how to say and my mom, the way she was, she was probably, she was probably, she
was probably allowing me to exercise in my independence as a five year old.
Yeah.
Cause that's kind of how she was.
And so anyway, fast forward to age 51.
Again, 36 years in the corporate world, 49 jobs.
My last job was working for a judge in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals as a secretary.
I had made my way up that ladder, that proverbial ladder and I thought that this is it.
Oh my gosh, I made it.
This is it.
I'm so excited.
And then after 14 months, I was bored as bored could be.
And you know, I was driving to work one day and I was just so angry at my life, so angry
with myself.
This is how I had lived for all those years because my, my dad was a very volatile, abusive
alcoholic.
And when I came home after being gone a week, I became riddled with fears.
That's where my fears started.
That's where they started age five.
So here I am, 51 years old, I'm driving to work and I just started saying, why am I here?
This is a waste.
I'm worthless.
There's no reason for me to be here.
I have no purpose.
And like, as a matter of fact, why is this whole planet here?
It just doesn't make any sense.
I was so, and I was angry yelling at myself as I'm driving pounding my hands on the steering
wheel, just filled with this anger.
Wow.
And then when I, when I got to work that day, there was a Facebook post from someone and
it said, I'm a life coach.
I took some time off.
I'm getting back into it and I'm looking for five women who want to change their lives.
I didn't know her.
I didn't know what a life coach was, but I was like, I wanted to change my life.
Another one of those Godwinks, you know, look at Facebook that moment in that time, kind
of like how we connected.
Yes, exactly.
And then I reached out, right?
So that's the thing is like, I reached out because I was like, I don't know what this
is, but I want to learn and I do want to change my life.
That decision right in that moment was the start of my life.
And I was 51.
That was when my life really started.
And it was August nine years ago.
So it's exciting that I'm embarking on, you know, that the close to 10 years ago that
I started my life, you know, but it's the fears are leading up to breaking out through
those fears every single day for a year.
What led me to even do that?
What led me to even think that I had 365 fears?
I didn't know.
All I knew is that I had allowed fear to stop me from doing things in my life for 46 years.
Me running away at five was like the last extreme courageous act I had done.
Wow.
For my whole life.
Yeah.
I let fear control me now.
Fear can control us to do things and it can control us to not do things.
But fear was my, my factor, my fear factor, you know, is it controlled just the way I
lived my life?
If I was scared, I didn't do it.
I just did not do it.
Period.
That's crazy.
So you saw the life coach or started meeting with a life coach overcoming your fear.
So let's, with those fears.
And I know you mentioned when we talked the other day that you didn't journal, you didn't
record all your fears, which what a great book that would be.
So what's the biggest, I would say, let's the biggest, scariest one you overcame.
And then what's one of the littlest ones that seemed silly, but was a fear?
Well, what I love about this question is fear doesn't know size.
True.
So, so fear doesn't say big fear, small fear.
We humans say that, right?
And so the reality, the reality is every single fear I had was astronomical to me.
Now other people might look at it and say, that's ridiculous.
Why are you scared to do that?
But I've learned to not say that because what they're doing is they're, they're, they're
they're diminishing what's going on inside of me, right?
They're minimizing it.
And so, so every single fear, there's a saying that false evidence appearing real, you know,
that's an acronym for fear.
And I'm like, that's a bunch of BS because there's no false evidence, first of all, and
it doesn't appear real because it is as real as real can be to me, to me.
That is so true.
Yeah, we're talking, I was talking with people yesterday and we were talking about somebody
recommended book, I think it's called, Why is this happening to me?
And to ask that question, you know, and so just like you said, and it's so, such a hard
thing that we do is we minimize people's fears.
And as you said, it's so real for you.
I've got a friend that's terrified of dogs.
And to the point like physically, like I saw her jump on her husband, she's 60 years old,
when her husband's lap when the dog walked in, because she was taunted as a kid and take
and really terrified of them because of that.
And so it's real for her and other people like, it's just a dog, it's a nice dog, but
for her, she doesn't see that.
And so, and that's a good thing to remember when we talk to people about their fears to
not minimize them.
Yeah, I was talking to one, one day, and she said, I have, I think it's called a goryphobia
where you're afraid to go outside.
Yeah, it's a real thing.
Yeah.
And she said she had been in her house for like, well, the whole time of COVID, she was
glad because she didn't, couldn't go out.
And she just went ahead and stayed inside.
So I was talking to her, I said, do you want to break through that fear?
You know, do you want to do something about it?
Because if she doesn't want to do anything about it, there's no reason to even try to
get her to right.
And I wasn't trying to get her through.
I was just asking her a question.
And she goes, yeah, I do.
I don't like living my life this way.
It's just, I'm so, I have terror, I'm terrified to go out.
And I said, what if you did this?
What if you just opened the door and put one foot out and then you came back inside?
Because now you've broken through that fear.
Right.
So it doesn't matter how much we do, it matters that we do it, that we take the action.
So she messaged me.
And I was just telling her, yeah, I got to share this because this was, wow, she messaged
me a week later.
Now I wasn't coaching her anything.
You know, I do fear coaching, but I wasn't coaching her.
I was just on a call with her one day, like having a conversation.
She messaged me a week later and she said, guess what I did?
I went for a walk around the block today.
Wow.
She just needed somebody to say, you know, this is all just, why don't you try one small
thing, you know, one small thing, which is huge to her, which is huge to her.
So yeah, so the big fear of small fear, I will share that most of my fears that now
I look at them and they were all ridiculous.
Okay, so let's ask it this way.
What was the most fun you had overcoming a fear?
Like one of the things that you're like, I was so afraid of them like, oh, and, you
know, and I talk about this all the time with this podcast is, you know, you do those scary
things and you're like, wow, that wasn't bad.
And oh my gosh, how much fun and why did I like let this hold me back for so many years?
Yeah.
Well, I don't know that I could term it as fun, you know, because every fear was very
fearful for me.
However, I will share that there were some things that happened during that year that
were totally unexpected.
I ended up meeting somebody who became my mentor.
His name is Gray Greed.
He was writing a book, a collaboration book called footsteps of the fearless.
And I actually have it right here with me today.
You know, footsteps of the fearless and he was putting this book together and he's like,
you're breaking through a fear every day.
This is a perfect book for you to join.
And I was like, like, why would I do that?
And I was scared because of just putting my words out there.
Who wants to hear from me?
Who wants to hear my message?
And he just really talked to me about it and talked about, you know, being in a collaboration
book and how it brings people together and stuff.
So he approached it from that perspective.
And I love that because I wanted to connect with new people because I was breaking through
all these fears.
And so I joined him in that book.
And that was one of the things that what I got from that one fear of being part of a
collaboration book has shifted my entire life.
Like my entire from that moment is the moment that everything shifted.
I became a book publisher because I said yes to that book.
I have published 433 number one international bestselling authors because I said yes to that
one book.
I've interviewed stars on the red carpet.
One of my books is endorsed by Les Brown.
And I interviewed.
You say that, but last yesterday when I was on a call and I was talking to somebody that
I'd met you and she looked you up immediately.
She's like, she's with Les Brown.
I was like, yeah, I didn't notice that.
Well that and I interviewed the president of Mexico, the country, and his presidential
suite when he was in San Diego.
And all of these things happen literally because I said yes to that book.
And the reason I say that is because the connections that I made from that book led to all of these
different things.
And we never know who we're going to step outside of that comfort zone.
And I so believe that it's Godwinks and God inspired.
And like I tell people like if when I meet somebody, I'm like, if I remember where I
was when I met you, like all the details, I know you're going to be in my life forever.
And you just never know who that person's going to be and who they're going to lead
you to.
I was walking with a friend one day.
We were talking about connections and how we knew somebody.
And I was walking with her that day and met her because of a connection I made with somebody
when I was in college.
But it was so many different iterations of connections to connections.
And that's why I talk a lot about connections in this podcast because I think that's so
powerful and just in saying yes, I was talking coaching one of my team members yesterday.
And I said, listen to the first voice when somebody nudges you to talk to somebody to
do something, do it.
Because then we talk herself out of it.
But over and just do it.
I don't know if you do follow Mel Robbins at all.
I do not.
I don't follow her, but people keep telling me that I have the same philosophies as her.
Well, she wrote a book and has a great TED talk on the five second rule.
And I think it's five seconds something, but she talks about when there's something that
you don't want to do and your mind's talking out of it, count, go five, four, three, two,
one, and then just do it.
You can't go one, two, three, four, five, because then you'll keep going.
But even like getting out of bed, you know, or making that phone call or do the fears,
it's just five, four, three, two, one, and just do it.
Yeah.
The outside talk too.
It's like how many takes 10 seconds of courage to do those, to do the thing.
Yeah.
And there's so many things that have happened for me, you know, like you mentioned the God
weeks, like these different things that have happened that had I thought about them, I
wouldn't have done that for sure.
Right.
Like I had lunch with Jack Canfield and it was, it was through this situation that happened
that I, I like to say see the opportunity, then sees the opportunity.
There was an opportunity presented itself to me in a split second, literally a split
second, and I took advantage of that, you know.
And so it's really like what, what are we allowing to slip by because we're not, first
of all, we're not seeing the opportunity because our mind is closed.
Maybe we don't see that as a possibility for us.
But if we just like would more, more look for these different opportunities, what are
we going to come across?
Right.
There's, there's, I wrote, I recently wrote a book called do it because you're scared,
because you're scared.
I like, here's why.
What I discovered 365 days in a row breaking through fears.
What I discovered is 99.9% of the time, every fear I broke through, I was either proud of
myself or I connected with somebody that I didn't know that opened a door that I didn't
even know was closed.
And my life has shifted for the better because I broke through those fears.
So what I say is like, we disempower ourselves when we say things like, oh, feel the fear
and do it anyway.
See that, that term anyway is disempowering.
Right.
But when I say I'm experiencing fear, oh, this is awesome.
I'm so glad I'm experiencing fear.
I'm going to do this because I'm scared because I'm excited for what's on the other side.
So it's shifted my whole, whole life.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
I love that.
So do it because you never know what's on the other side and that's so true.
Yeah.
And that's why we don't do it so often is because we don't know what's on the other side.
But if we can shift that thinking to realizing that the vast majority of the time, the results
are going to be greater, greater than you ever imagined.
Why are you depriving yourself of those results?
I love that.
And I do share a lot in teaching team members with Mary Kay is like, you just never know
who that person's going to be.
And first of all, how you can change their life and bless them, but also how like they
may be looking for you and you never know who that person's going to be that's going
to lead you to that person or, you know, you just never know where that person's going
to lead you to.
A great example of that is I hosted a, I host summits.
We host six summits a year and I hosted one recently and one of our speakers, I guess
she really liked us.
I didn't know her, is she, but she came in as a speaker and I haven't even connected
with her.
But just this last two days, she sent me eight different connections for books.
And so if I hadn't brought in these strangers to speak at my event, because I didn't know
her and I, I haven't even had a chance to talk to her yet.
If I hadn't brought these strangers into my event because I was too worried about what
they might say or think or what have you, then I wouldn't have met her and she wouldn't
have connected me with those, like you mentioned the Godwings, right?
Like she's connecting me with these people and who knows where those relationships are
going to go.
I have no idea.
I have no idea, but I'm open to it.
Open to every single person.
And that's, I think that's what, the way I live my life.
And it sounds like that's where I connected with you so quickly.
It's just the, oh great.
You have no idea where it's leading.
And I think that's this whole why not today message I feel like is bigger than me and
really reaching out.
And I think I mentioned we talked the other day about her, but I can say, and I should
write a book and I'm like, I am not a writer.
I'm a finance girl.
That's my background.
But just in meeting you, I'm like, and just listening to you today, I'm like, huh, like
the Jack Canfield chicken soup for the soul kind of book, it could be a why not day book
with store everybody's story.
They're courageous stories.
Yeah.
And what I love about the collaboration, because not only are you connecting with those other
people, but you know, there's power in numbers, right?
Especially, especially everybody, you know, why not today, everybody has the same sort
of theme.
You know, and so when we're going, when we're coming together with the same sort of theme,
this helps us to have an immediate connection.
It's an immediate connection right there.
So that's one of the things I absolutely love about those collaborative style books, you
know, they're, they have been life altering for me.
Yeah.
Life altering.
Ah, just overcoming one fear a day and just those little things and I just love that and
I'm so glad that we got connected.
So how would you encourage somebody else to say why not today?
You know, I would, I would encourage them to say why not today is imagine what your life
like, what life do you want to live?
What life do you want to live?
Are you living that life today?
And if you are, maybe why not today is not a thing for you.
But if there are things that you want, places that you want to be people you want to be
surrounded by, why not you?
Why not you?
It's time to draw that line in the sand and cross across it and say, it's my turn.
I'm ready.
I'm ready to do this, whatever it is, but you got to take those steps to do it.
You have to take the action.
Nothing happens without action.
Action takers publishing was actually created because I was not an action taker.
I was a person who would sit back and hope things would happen for me.
And because I realized that if I name, like I name my company action takers publishing,
that I will probably attract action takers.
And if I attract action takers, I will become an action taker.
We need to hang out with who we want to become.
So who do you want to become?
Yeah, there's a saying, I can't remember who said Jim Rohn, I think says, we're a reflection
of the five people we hang out with the most.
In high school, if you were a smoker, you probably hung out with the smokers.
If you were a band nerd like I was, you probably hung out with the bandos, right?
But who are you hanging out with today?
Are they helping you to get the results that you want in the future?
So like by having Leslie, you know, being a director with Mary Kaye, and if you're somebody
who's under Leslie, then you're following in her footsteps, you know, but you got to
follow those footsteps in order to get the results that you want to get.
So why not today?
Yeah, and I do pay very close attention to the people I spend time with.
And I was reading a book last night from a guest I had on a couple of weeks ago on the
podcast and she wrote a book.
It says, dare to choose happy.
So one of the things she talked about is connections.
Who are your powerful connections in your life to make a list?
And you know, most people, they say you only have a couple super close, powerful connections,
and I am so blessed that I've got lots.
And so she said to make a list of the people that you have the connections with them before
I went to bed last night.
It's on one of these notes here.
I made a list and I came up with 20 people that I knew that I had that great connection.
And then the other thing she had you do is make a list of things that make you happy
and keep them in your phone.
And I'm like, you know, simple things like lighting a candle or going for a walk or,
you know, eating ice cream, whatever those things might be.
But yeah, all those things are such a difference.
And I love the connections and the people we hang out with and, you know, surround yourself
with people that are going to make you better.
Yeah.
I like I'd love to share because I know we got to go.
I would love to share like one exercise that I did during that year of fears, if I may.
Right.
Oh my gosh.
There, there were so many things.
First of all, there are so many things that I learned during that year.
I actually came up with over 750 quotes during the year.
One of those that I shared was, you know, see the opportunity then seize the opportunity.
But there was this exercise that my life coach had me do that I implemented during my year
of fears.
And that is to make a list.
Just like you mentioned, make a list of everything that really brings you joy, things that make
you happy.
They make you, they make you smile.
They make you laugh, you know, just make that list and take a week to make your list.
So when you're thinking of it or you're doing it, you're like, oh, I love that thing.
Write it down.
So you make that list.
And then what I did is I took that list and I took it into my year of fears and I said,
what I'm going to do is every day I'm going to do for five minutes, one of those things
on my list.
Like, I'm going to make sure that part of my process is to do one of those things on
my list.
And so the next week, I did it for 10 minutes a day.
So it might have been two things for five minutes each or it might have been one thing
for 10 minutes.
Then the following week, and I just kept adding five minutes a day to it as I went on.
And what I found was that my mindset started shifting to realize that I do deserve love.
I do deserve happiness.
I do deserve joy in my life.
And so now the way my life is now, I'd say probably a good 80% of my life is spent in
that positive mindset.
I wasn't a positive person.
I was very negative.
I used to be a very judgmental person.
I would judge people all the time.
That's what I grew up in.
Yeah.
I was a judgment.
I emulated it.
I carried it forward into my life.
And that was how I lived my life.
So I have totally shifted everything.
A lot of it came from that one exercise.
There were other exercises too, of course, but that one exercise increase your amount
of joy every day, just five minutes.
And look at your name now.
You've been called Sunshine because of that.
Oh, exactly.
That happened like three years after I broke through those fears because people just started
randomly calling me Sunshine.
I remember the first time somebody called me.
I looked around and I was like, are you talking to me?
Like, nobody ever called me Sunshine before.
And so I went ahead and adopted it as my name.
And then now I believe I am Sunshine because I adopted it.
Thank you so much.
I met somebody one time that I saw walking around my lake all the time.
And then I met her somewhere else.
I'm like, I see you all the time.
She goes, oh, I know who you are.
You're the person who always smiles and says hello.
I'm like, what a simple thing to be known.
I mean, grateful to be known for, but that you're known for that because most people
don't.
And it's so simple.
Just yeah, and those positive things and looking for looking for the good.
I'm talking about judgment in this book I was reading last night.
She had, she said, don't judge.
Don't be judgmental.
Be curious.
And what a different way to look at things when you're curious about it instead of judgmental.
Like, you know, somebody cuts you off in traffic and like, you know, instead of being judgmental
and mad and what a jerk they are.
And like, you know, I hope everything's okay and they don't have an emergency and, you
know, curious what's making them in such a hurry today.
Yeah, I make up stories.
I'll say something like, oh, they must be on their way to the hospital because they're
having a baby.
Exactly.
I'll just make up fun, like nice fun stories.
You know, we make up stories where so our brain tells us to make up the bad stories.
But I really tried to make up the good stories and something recently I read and talking
about the judgmental, totally going off a squirrel moment, but there was a man on a train with
four kids that were wreaking havoc, just brats screaming and yelling and this woman
was trying to work and she finally couldn't take it anymore.
And she finally looked at the man.
He's like, do you not know how to handle your children?
And he goes, no man, as a matter of fact, I have no idea how to handle my children after
two hours after their mother passed away.
And I often think about that.
It's like, okay, we judge, but we don't know what's going on behind the scenes for somebody.
And just be kind and never know where you can bless them.
Well, what a blessing you are.
And I'm so grateful to have met you and I can't wait to do other things with you and
learn other things and you've already taught me a ton.
So I always try to do with the podcast also to back into like your connection with my
dad because he's who I'm honoring this podcast and people are like, I never knew your dad.
Well, of course you didn't.
But so the first connection I would say is California.
You lived in California, you grew up in California, my dad did too.
He grew up in San Fernando Valley talking about being on the red carpet and doing those things.
He always has stories and he was kids.
He would deliver newspapers to all the stars and had all those connections.
But I think just your positive attitude and your connections and just not now, now not
being afraid to ask and connect and just it seems like there's never been a person that's
everybody's a friend of strangers, just a friend to you.
And I love that.
And I feel like in just two conversations with you connected forever.
So when I come out to San Diego to see my nephew, we'll definitely have to get it together
in person or if you come to the East Coast or somewhere else.
So well, thank you so much for coming to New York.
Are you near New York?
Not really.
I'm in DC.
Okay.
That's about four or five hours from New York.
Well, what's New York City or Brooklyn?
I'm coming to New York because I was just sure of this because this is one of those wow moments
that I'm experiencing right now is I was invited to participate in the rock and roll Hall of
Fame inductee ceremony as a person in the gifting suite.
So I will be giving gifts to the inductees plus other A-list celebrities.
And this is something that is happening again.
This because I said yes to that one book because the connections that I've made through that
whole situation.
So I am so excited.
This is really happening.
That's great.
I love that.
Yeah.
Just say yes to those little things and you never know what they're doing.
Why not now?
Why not today?
Exactly.
Yes.
So well, thank you again for sharing and I think we could talk forever and ever and
ever.
And if anybody wants to follow the podcast, we are on all the podcast places.
There's a website, whynottodaypodcast.com.
I will share Linda's link in the show notes how to access and find you and connect with
you and you're a great asset.
Somebody should connect with you.
And we also have why not today swag, t-shirts, cups, finals to remind yourself.
Just say why not today.
So I'm always looking for courageous stories to share if anybody knows of anything, anybody
listening.
So again, Linda, thank you for sharing and it's been a pleasure to get to know you and
you know what?
Just say why not today.
Why not today?
Thank you so much for having me.
Oh, you're welcome.
Thank you.