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Hello, this is Leslie and I am the host of the Why Not Today podcast.

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This is a podcast to celebrate people who have been courageous and said, why not today?

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I started this podcast in honor of my father, Patrick Kane, who often just say, why not

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today?

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I'm based in Reston, Virginia, a planned community right outside of Washington, D.C. and thanks

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for joining us today.

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So I'm excited about my guest, Dorian Watson.

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I don't know Dorian very well.

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We met a couple months ago, no maybe a month ago, and she's going to share kind of her

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journey of courage.

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But before we get to know her, I always like to share connections where I matter.

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So I went to a chamber, smells not like chamber because I'm involved in that event a couple

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months ago and met this woman, Jen.

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She had a practice, I don't know exactly, a psychologist, psychiatrist, counseling, and

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then decided to go into coaching.

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And not only did she go into coaching, but she started coaching group in Lynchburg,

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Virginia and invited me to it.

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And I ended up going and it was one of those things that wasn't convenient at all whatsoever,

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but I made it work and I met Dorian and so grateful to hear her story and got to know

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her.

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So I'm excited to have you share about you and your journey and your faith and just,

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you don't have your hope wall behind you today.

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Not really.

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When we were on the other day, you had hope behind you.

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So Dorian, go ahead and introduce yourself to us a little about you and us.

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Fun fact.

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My name is Dorian Watson.

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I'm a native of Lynchburg, Virginia.

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I have been in business for myself for the past five years.

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I run a consultancy called DM Watson Consulting.

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I'm still niching down to my very specific expertise area, but right now I'm blended

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on organizational management.

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So my goal is to help small business owners to be more efficient with their organizational

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management and to be able to.

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I'll make that, don't we?

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Yeah, for sure.

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So to help them be able to plan and organize and lead and control their businesses better

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in a way that makes them more profitable and helps just make their lives a little bit

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easier.

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So that's me as a professional.

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I'm a Christian and I've served in law for over 20 years.

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I'd like to teach the Bible and have the opportunity.

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And yeah, fun fact about me.

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I have a blog.

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It's called The Pearl of Priesttown.

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And the blog is named after my mom and dad.

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My mom's name is Peggy, which is, can have a nickname of Pearl.

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And my dad's name is Preston.

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And Preston means priest town.

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So my blog is The Pearl of Priesttown.

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I did not know that.

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I'm going to learn something about you.

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I have to check it out.

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So I admire people who can do a blog.

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My background's in numbers and finance them.

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Do you want a blog sound scary?

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Everybody keeps saying, you should write a book.

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I'm like, oh, that's a little scary.

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Yeah, it's always consistent, but I do it when I'm inspired.

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Oh, good.

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Well, I met you and the organization skills are amazing.

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You are very instrumental in running the group that Jenna started.

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And when we talked the other day and kind of got to know you, and I love your journey

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from you were in Northern Virginia and the corporate world, and then decided to take

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a turn and follow your heart and follow your calling.

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And so before we kind of hear all about your story, what does courage mean to you?

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Yeah, I thought about this when I saw the question.

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And it's funny how you don't really define words sometimes, you know, you really just

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kind of have an idea of what they mean.

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And so I looked it up and one of the definitions was Darienne Mobley
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And so that really resonated with me.

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So I'd say courage is the ability to do hard things.

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And just, yeah, just being the spot of the situation and just being able to work through

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it regardless of, you know, how difficult it is, just being able to get to the end of

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it or get through it.

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And generally you're better on the other side of it or you come to a place where you're

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able to move forward.

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So but yeah, definitely that ability to do hard things with you.

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Yeah, I've got a friend that I think the name of Facebook group is we can do hard things.

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And you know, courage, it is doing the hard things.

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And if people think, oh, when you're courageous and brave, you just do it.

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I'm like, no, you don't, you have to work through it.

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And once you get on the other side, we're always so much better than them.

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So no fun for me through this podcast to hear everybody's definitions and what they've done.

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So let's talk about your career path, your switch you want to seminary, which is, you

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know, a brave move.

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So let's talk about where you started and where you've become.

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And now you've got your own business.

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But let's talk about kind of in between and the courageous steps that took and yes, God

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So when I was younger, I didn't really have a huge plan for my life career wise, you know,

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just kind of going with the flow and, you know, I had an older sister, so I'd like to

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follow her lead.

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I want to be a teacher.

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But that's not really what I was designed for.

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When I got to high school, I kind of thought I might want to own my own business, but didn't

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really have an idea of what kind of a business or how that would go along or whatever.

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And so senior year was kind of like, all right, well, what would I want to major in when I

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go to college, you know, go to college.

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So landed on business because, hey, regardless of what business you go into, you can get

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a job with a business degree.

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So that was my thought process going into college.

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So went to college and majored in business, chose management because every business needs

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a manager pretty much.

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So I was like, no matter what, I should be solid with a business management degree.

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So got to school and the Lord really took a hold of my life my freshman year.

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So was leaning in the direction of, okay, God, like, what are you doing in my life,

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getting to know him better?

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And was able to just really connect with the Lord on a deeper level than I had before.

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And my junior year, I went to Longwood and that's a public school here in Virginia in

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Central Virginia, about 45 minutes from where I was living.

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I was wondering what's your faith in school at that level and delivery?

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So when I was younger, I didn't really understand what Liberty was all about.

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When you live really close to something, you know, sometimes you don't really appreciate

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Like Jordan Mason here, I'm like, who would ever go there?

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There's a school next door.

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That's too close to home, basically.

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As a matter of fact, I told my dad asked me, you know, about Liberty and I was like, I

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never want to go there.

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Funny how we, what we say, we'll never do that we do.

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So, uh, was it about junior year and the Lord really let me know, like, you cannot do business

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in the way that you're thinking you're going to do business.

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Like that is not in alignment with me and my will because, you know, the 90s, I went

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to school in the 90s and, you know, the 90s were all about power, you know, power trips

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and, you know, the power executive and especially women empowered executives and, you know, she's

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got the red high heels and, you know, she's going to step on everybody to get to the top.

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What is that making the devil wear his product?

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When I was a young, a young 19, 20 year old, the Lord said, no, that's not going to be

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And I was like, okay, God, then what am I doing?

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A lot of my friends were going to be going to seminary after that, but I knew that I

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wasn't ready for seminary and that wasn't the timing of that.

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But the Lord really laid it on my heart, you know, seminary is going to be for you.

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And I was like, okay, God, you know, whenever you want me to go, you let me know when you

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let me know where you let me know what I'm going to study.

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So that was back in 2001.

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of the account representative for a security firm and was miserable and was really looking

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for, you know, the next thing like Lord, all right, like this job is not it.

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I'm really unhappy.

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I really hated at this place, you know, but I had my career was really in the dumps, but

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my personal life was pretty good.

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Like I really had a great faith community.

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I bought lots of good friends, really enjoyed where I lived, love the city I was in.

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So I was like, okay, God, gotta get, you know, gotta do something.

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And so over a period of a couple of months, the Lord was speaking to me through all kinds

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of various venues and that was a really neat time.

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And one of the tools that he used to help me was actually the Chronicles of Narnia.

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I had never read that as a child, I've seen the movies and things, but had never, you

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know, never read the books and the books go a little more in depth with some of the spiritual

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aspects with the analogies that CS Lewis makes.

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And the Lord just really spoke to me through that series.

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Eustace's character was really resonating with me in that season where I had a lot of

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pride and a lot of different other things I need to shed.

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Like he shed that lion skin, that dragon skin in the voice of the dawn.

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I read it as a kid and I have not read it as an adult.

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I need to go back.

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It's a great story.

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And that's a whole different read.

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It's so great.

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and of your life and just of your humanity.

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So I'm like, oh, you know, this is really, it's really, it gets deeper than you think

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it should for a children's book.

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And so it's like, okay, all right, Lord, like I'm in this place of brokenness.

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I'm in this place of where you're going to heal me and you're going to, you know, get

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me out of this attitude that I'm in.

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and that can really mess you up from a faith perspective because then you're not looking

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to act out of love and compassion like God wants us to.

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a holy way to respond to adversity.

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It's responding to adversity.

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But God was so gracious to me in that time.

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He gave me those books.

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He told me I wasn't going to get fired from my job.

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That's how bad it was, right?

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Like they really could have fired me if they wanted to.

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or whatever, but my attitude was just so terrible, you know, just coming in with, you know, all

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that kind of stuff.

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Well, Corporate America, it's, and this is something I'm passionate about and I share

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because I left my corporate job 24 years ago.

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Kay, so I saw better worlds.

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But one of the breaking points is when I was at work one day, left work and tears, thinking

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I could never get another job.

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I just finished my MBA.

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I have never looked for a job in my life with connections and things.

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I'm a super hard worker, but I think Corporate America's job and a lot of instances just

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beat you down.

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And people, and, but the sad part is you got out, I got out, but somebody's feel they're

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staying there because they're scared.

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Yeah, if I can encourage anybody through these podcasts is just live your life and live and

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joy and do the things that give you joy.

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It's super important.

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Like it really will, it changes you as a person to be in that kind of environment.

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And I didn't like who I was then.

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was like, you know, you become this person, you know, and in the book, if you're not familiar

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with the voyage of the Dawn Treader, it's the little boy puts on this bracelet and he

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becomes a dragon.

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and you're stuck in there and all you can present is dragon, you know, and it's not your

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good sweet self, you know, it's right.

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This bitter, scaly, you know, monster kind of a thing.

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orchestrated all of that.

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And I love that you listened and you're paying attention instead of so many people that ignore

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the signs.

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I'm very big at, you know, I see the signs, hear the signs, paying attention to things

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that so many people just ignore.

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And it's really easy to just go along with what somebody tells you to do, particularly

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your boss or your upper management.

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If they're telling you to do things that are not in alignment with your values or just

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aren't good and they're not just, they're just not good business practices.

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Right.

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You know, and if you're looking around and paying attention to how your business and

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organization is functioning, you know, you can see where it's going to be a problem,

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you know, not just for you, but for your clients or your customers.

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And if you don't value your clients and customers, you know, well, that's, you need to check

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that anyway, if you're not valuing them.

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need to do that.

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You can find a different organization or figure out something else to do so that you can,

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you know, make money.

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And I understand that that's a very difficult thing to do when you're, you know, trying

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to pay rent, you're trying to pay your bills, you're trying to, you know, you may have medical

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bills that are in the background debt from student loans or other things, you know, I

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understand all that kind of struggle.

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So I know it's not, it seems like it's not easy and no, it isn't easy, but it's not

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impossible to figure out something.

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You just gotta trust it.

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And let it go.

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It's what I've found in my life.

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And I think that's, that's, we're really important lesson I learned with my first job

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out of college was you can leave.

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It's your choice and you have that, you have permission to leave it because a lot of people

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will tell you in your jobs, you know, your manager might tell you or your colleagues

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might tell you or even your bank account kind of might tell you, you know, Hey, you can't

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leave this job.

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You can't leave.

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And that was one lie that I had to squash real quick because it was like, no, you cannot

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stay in places that are really sucking your soul away, you know, unless you've been given

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a supernatural grace to stay there, you know, or a particular instruction, you know, for

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me, I'm following the Lord's instructions.

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And if he doesn't tell me to stay somewhere, I'm not staying.

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And now when I put my job, people are like, what are you going to do?

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How are you going to live?

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I literally looked and like, okay, I knew I could sell enough products to live.

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And I'm like, I might have to eat at my mom's and stick, skip Starbucks and not go shopping

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or, you know, pick out all that.

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But, you know, we can, we live, we can live better, you know, and when they do, we really

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can, we really can.

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So it all came to a head.

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It all came to a head at one point and it was just like, Lord, like really, I was literally

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on my face on the floor praying like God, like you got to really intervene here.

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I really got to get out of here.

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So he told me I wasn't going to get fired.

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And one Saturday morning, I was just at home and got up and the Lord said, apply to Liberty

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today because he had been talking to me about seminary that whole 10 year period.

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I've been, you know, keeping my eyes open, looking at schools and programs and, you know,

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cities and things and just trying to figure out, you know, where to go or whatever.

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He had opened a door through my church that I was attending at the time and they had started

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a satellite program with Dallas Theological Seminary and they had a class offering.

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So I was like, oh, well, maybe this is what the Lord wants me to do to take, to go through

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the satellite campus and go through Dallas Theological.

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So I took that class and it was an amazing class, really loved it and wanted to pray

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through the next semester.

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And so that was all, so I took the class in the fall and the spring I was praying through

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the semester to see, okay.

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Lord, do you want me to do this satellite program or do you have something else in mind?

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So this was in March and that Saturday morning, the Lord told me apply to Liberty University

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today.

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So it wasn't just apply to Liberty.

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No, today.

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You need to apply today.

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So I applied that day.

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I got accepted.

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And so in May, I moved out and moved from Northern Virginia back to Lynchburg.

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Like I said, I'm from Lynchburg originally.

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I talked to my parents about it.

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My dad had always said, you can always come back home.

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You know, whenever you want, you know, because, you know, your dad just wants to come back

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home.

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I'm on back home if you want to, you know, that's fine.

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And so came back home, didn't have a job, just moved back in with my mom and dad and

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didn't know what I was going to be doing exactly.

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Hadn't figured out what the major was going to be, but had been accepted, moved back home

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and was like, okay, guys, like what are we doing?

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And so the Lord provided for my tuition and my expenses and everything told me I wasn't

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going to get a job because I was looking for a job, you know, because, you know, school

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is not cheap, even if you have tuition or whatever, you still have other things you

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need to get and whatnot.

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And the Lord provided opportunities and money just out of nowhere, like literally out of

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nowhere just would get money for thousands.

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So it was just such an amazing time of trust and dependency on him.

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And he really taught me, you know, trust me, I've got you, you know, and you really can

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do that.

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So, and just had the best time in seminary.

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It was a two-year program that I was in and got my masters in theological studies.

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And then moved on into a position after that, where I worked for Liberty University for

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a season and what's helping on the student population there.

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So really, it was a really amazing time just of just how he was moving things and providing

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and just getting me to be able to trust him more.

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And that takes so much courage.

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And I can pinpoint many, many times in my life that, you know, we try so hard to plan

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differently, different than my plan, and, you know, he's got it.

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He's got my back.

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And, you know, he always does that.

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Got a courage.

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Seems like my internet's going in and out.

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Are we disappearing or am I?

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Do you see that?

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You were freezing just a little bit, but you're back.

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Hopefully we're okay.

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Looks like it's not so strong.

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But that's okay.

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This is not perfect.

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Beauty of wine, I'd say.

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All right.

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So seminary, which I love the trust and you did that.

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And the God provided, like the same thing with me.

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And I share this on the podcast where I quit my job November of 99.

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And it was really not, it was a date of just arbitrary date based on something silly.

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Going shopping with a friend.

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I don't even like to shop.

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But I quit my job and I stepped out in space.

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And, you know, God had another plan.

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My dad had a major stroke that next April.

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And I was able to be there with my family.

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I was able to take off.

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I didn't have to take, ask permission to take time off.

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And you know, if I had not stepped on on faith and had that courage to say, you know, why

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not today?

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It was kind of like, you know, your decision to go to seminary, like God told you today,

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like, you know, we need to listen to those and not argue.

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And what a different path your world has taken because of that.

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It really has.

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And what you just said really resonates with me too.

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I had a lot of family things that came up when I moved back, when I moved back home.

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And had I not been living with my family at that time, I would have had to travel, you

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know, three and a half hours or so, or I would have been certain things.

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And you know, yet trying to figure out how to take time off and to be there.

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And with as many things that happened, like, I don't know if I would have had enough time

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to take off, you know, to be able to do the things that I needed to do, you know, my sister

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was, yeah.

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And the flexibility and the line of your life with your values of what's important, you

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know, so crucial.

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And, you know, I've been full time Mary Kay with the flexibility for 24 years.

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So that's just the life I live.

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But unfortunately, I had unexpected death of a friend last week.

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And it was not a family member.

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And if I was working for somebody else, I couldn't have said on Sunday, when I found

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out I'm leaving tomorrow and I'm gone for a week.

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And it's been, you know, it was a week ago Sunday and I really haven't gotten all the

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way back into work yet.

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And that's okay.

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You know, I'm not getting fired and I have that flexibility.

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There was no question.

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But if I would have been working for somebody else, it would not have happened like that.

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And that's, you know, that for me, that is just invaluable to have that flexibility

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with family and or friends and do the things that mean something to us.

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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So then you left, so you worked in a church, you worked at Liberty and they started your

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own business and kind of a different, so I'm sure whatever you learned in seminary and

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the church and all that, you apply to what you do now, but kind of a different trajectory.

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So how'd you get there?

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I love hearing people's stories in their past.

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Yeah.

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So I was working for a church.

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I was working in their administrative office and I felt like I needed a shift, you know,

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working for the Lord, it's awesome, but it's a really different environment, especially

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when you're a business mind.

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And as much as I love ministry, I love ministry as a non-business entity.

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And so the two areas can converge more often than one would think.

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And the way that they converge is it can get really complicated.

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And so I was having some frustrations with the way those two things were converging,

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particularly with the demands of ministry.

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And ministry is more 24-7 than 9-5.

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And so I was finding things that I needed to be doing for my position were falling outside

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of my work hours and it was just kind of like, okay, I can't keep going over these crossover

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with the particular structure that we had at that time.

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So it's just like, this isn't really a good fit for me anymore.

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And I thought, you know, I would really like to help people with these kinds of things,

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but I'd like to keep my faith ministry separate from that.

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So it's like, let me separate these two things.

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I'd like to be able to come to church and worship on Sunday and not, you know, get pulled

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into something work-related.

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Exactly.

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So chose to make that separation and decided to go into administration.

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Administration is one of my favorite areas of business to focus on.

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And so all the behind the scenes organizational things, that's all the things that I'd love

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to get into.

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So decided to become a consultant, I talked with a coach as I was trying to make the transition

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because I didn't want to leave my church in the lurch, you know, nobody to come take

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my place.

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So I was going to train my replacement and all that.

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So I worked all that out.

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And so, and I didn't want to go into business blind because I'd never run my own business

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before and I'd never done what I wanted to do as a business before.

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So I had some test clients first, just to see if that was something I liked doing and,

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you know, kind of figure out the trajectory of where I went to take my business.

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What a great idea to have a client.

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I'm a chronic planner, chronic planner.

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And so, I have learned recently, especially I am a planner and yeah, he's really worked

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with me on that.

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And so everything is a fluid plan now.

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So I can't get an idea of a plan that I have.

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God, you know, if it's going to ship, that's fine.

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You know, so whatever you want to do with my plan, you can go ahead and do that.

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So, but just had some test clients first and talk to a coach.

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We'll figure out that I want to be a consultant versus mainly a coach or mentor or something

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else.

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So he helped me get those ideas and alignment.

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And so, DM Watson Consulting was founded in 2018 and I've been on the journey, the entrepreneurial

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journey ever since.

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I'm still figuring out who I am as a business owner and as a business person, but like you

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said, I love the flexibility of it.

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It allows me to be able to help people, but it also allows me to focus on other things

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that I need to be doing.

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My ministry is a part of that.

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And so, some of that really just is being available to people whenever they need to talk about

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things or, you know, they seem to meet up for something.

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And so that gives me that flexibility to do that.

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So that's awesome.

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And I love that you're in the coaching world as part of the administrative, you know, helping

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coaches with their, you know, business.

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And, you know, that's important.

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You know, we all have creative ideas for businesses, but you got to have the business

465
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,760
part behind it.

466
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,760
And people have asked me like, what are you doing as a Mary Kay consultant?

467
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,760
You have an MBA in business.

468
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,280
I'm like, I'm a smart business woman.

469
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,280
I'm running my own business.

470
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,760
But it does take the systems behind it to make it successful.

471
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,760
Absolutely.

472
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,760
Yeah.

473
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,200
And everybody has a system whether they recognize it as one or not.

474
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,200
It could be a bad system.

475
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,200
That's right.

476
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,200
It's where it all could be.

477
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,200
Yeah.

478
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,440
So what would you say to encourage somebody else?

479
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,520
And I love the word encourage because it's like, give somebody courage.

480
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,480
Yes, for sure.

481
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,240
It's really just kind of just do it in a way.

482
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,120
You know, a lot of times we have a lot of doubt behind things.

483
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:23,200
And I've gone through a season where I doubted myself after going through some different life

484
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,200
experiences.

485
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,280
I had lost some of the confidence that I had because a lot of my confidence previously

486
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,880
was based in pride.

487
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,560
And so it's really difficult to just trust yourself.

488
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,600
But I would really encourage people to trust yourself.

489
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,000
You know what your values are.

490
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,400
You know what you are trying to accomplish.

491
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,760
And if you're a Christian, you know that God has a plan for you and you're probably seeking

492
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,760
that out.

493
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,840
Trust God has a plan for you and trust that you are capable of following the plan that

494
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,320
he's got lined up for you.

495
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,960
And have faith that you can really do it.

496
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:57,960
Believe that you can do it.

497
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,520
Have faith that you can do it and trust yourself that you're able to execute it.

498
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,000
Even if you don't have all the tools right this second, right?

499
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,320
Most things are a process where you're learning about it and you're getting information.

500
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,920
Trust that you can give the information.

501
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,240
Trust that you can learn it.

502
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,800
Just have that.

503
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,160
Try to trust yourself to do those things that you need to do.

504
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,480
And you can gain that ability to do that hard thing.

505
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,000
It'll be less and less hard as you go along.

506
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,920
Now, some things really do just slap you in the face, right?

507
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,640
Unexpected family losses or health incidents and those kinds of things.

508
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,640
Those are tough to navigate.

509
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,720
They really are.

510
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,360
But trust that if you're still alive, there's something that you can do.

511
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:42,320
And I thought my dad always said after he had several strokes, he had a long journey

512
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,320
of it.

513
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,960
But he's like, you know what, God's not done with me yet.

514
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,680
And he knew he still had a purpose.

515
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,520
And people say, how are you?

516
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,760
And he's like, I'm on the silograph.

517
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,400
It's just always a good thing.

518
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,800
Yeah, I love that.

519
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,120
And I think the whole theme of what we talked about today is trust.

520
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:02,720
And I love doing these podcasts because I get to hear people's stories.

521
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,520
But so often more than anything, I'm doing these podcasts because it's a message I exactly

522
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,520
need to hear today.

523
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:14,560
And it's like, OK, God put me, you and my past a month ago, who knew that I needed you

524
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,080
today, in my life recently, and just the trust factor.

525
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,720
And yeah, just got to trust.

526
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,560
So where can people find you?

527
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,680
And I know we're going to share all your contact in the show notes.

528
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,600
But if someone's looking for some business administrative, do you do virtual or do they

529
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,800
have to be in Lynchburg?

530
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,080
No, I can do virtual or I can do, I'm in person.

531
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,400
If you're in the general area of Central Virginia, I can get there.

532
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,120
If we play it accordingly, I can get pretty much anywhere.

533
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:50,120
So I'm available both virtually and in person.

534
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:56,840
You can reach me at dmwatsonconsulting.com for all your organizational management needs.

535
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,840
All right.

536
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:58,840
And I know you're with at LinkedIn.

537
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:04,200
You're going to teach me how to do that because that's not something I've figured out.

538
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,120
So why not today podcast?

539
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:08,360
You can find on every channel.

540
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:10,160
We have a website, why not today podcast?

541
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,280
We have swag, if you want a t-shirt, a cup, a vinyl, we're looking at some other things

542
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,280
that we're going to add.

543
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:22,080
And just share it with a friend if it's encouraged you today, the podcast.

544
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,080
Share it, review it like it.

545
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,280
That's how we're going to grow this podcast.

546
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,520
And Dorian, thank you so much for your story and of courage.

547
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,520
And I just love the faith in business combined and just the trust.

548
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,560
Thanks so much, Leslie.

549
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,560
Thanks so much for having me.

550
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,560
Oh, my pleasure.

551
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,720
And everybody listening, watching, say why not today?

552
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,720
We are not promised tomorrow.

553
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,360
I know that more than anything.

554
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,800
And enjoy your life and say why not today.

555
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,360
So thanks again and say why not today.

556
00:28:53,360 --> 00:29:10,400
And I'm going to figure out how to stop it.