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Hello, this is Leslie and I am the host of the Why Not Today podcast.

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This is a podcast to celebrate people who have been courageous and said,

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Why Not Today?

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I started this podcast in honor of my father, Patrick Cain, who often did say,

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Why Not Today?

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I'm based in Reston, Virginia, a planned community right outside of Washington, D.C.

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and thanks for joining us today.

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And I have a guest today, Dr. Sherry, who I really don't know well.

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I've been on a call with her, but I'm excited to hear the story and

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let you guys hear her stories of courage.

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So I always like to talk before we get to meet the guest about connections and how we met.

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And one of my guests has been on here before, Mary Follily, who was a friend from years ago.

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We reconnected a couple of years ago.

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She has a podcast.

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I have a podcast with guests on each other's podcast.

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And we've been like doing calls and sharing ideas.

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And one day I was like, I said, I almost feel like I need a coach for my podcast.

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She's like, are you asking me?

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I'm like, I don't know.

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She goes, I have a better idea.

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She's like, how about a mastermind?

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And so she's like, I've got two friends in mind and I knew somebody.

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And so five of us came together and we've had two calls now, but it really feels like God put us together.

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And we've got more powerful women in line with what we're all doing.

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Different things, but the same.

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So I'm super excited to get to know you, Dr. Sherry, and hear more about you and your journey.

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So let's start with a quick introduction of you, Dr. Sherry, and fun facts.

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And then we'll get into the courage stuff.

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Yeah.

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Well, Dr. Sherry is really Sherry, a woman just like every other woman, you know,

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navigating life, figuring out life, enjoying life.

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And now getting in a place in my life where I'm living really, really free.

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So that's who I am.

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Yeah.

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And a fun fact, you know, I was thinking about this and I'm like, I don't really have anything super fun about me.

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I think the only thing that, you know, we all have videos, simple C's.

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I think for me, it's that I get injured easily.

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And so I break bones frequently.

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Thank God I haven't broken.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I haven't broken anything in recent years, but in my 20s and 30s, I broke something regularly.

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Toes, fingers, I broke my hand.

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Yeah, walking up the stairs, just walking up the stairs.

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You know, not doing anything adventurous.

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So that would be the story.

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There's stories around that.

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Oh, that's funny.

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So tell me, what does courage mean to you?

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Yeah, that's...

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Well, I would say the first thing that I've discovered about courage is that it's not something that you have to get.

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It's something you already have.

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So I have it.

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You have it.

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We all have it.

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So what it is, is it's a continual alignment of your actions with your convictions.

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Oh, I like that.

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That's how I see it.

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Yeah, so like whatever you, you know, believe in, whatever you feel compelled to do, you know, we all get these things.

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And they're things that are in the back of our heads that we're like, they kind of nag at us.

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They chew at us a little bit and we tend to because we focus on what we see and what we think we should do, right?

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And the right path and all of that.

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We tend to kind of stuff it down, but that thing is always there, right?

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And so we feel it.

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We know it's there.

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Courage is taking that thing and making it alive and making choices in the moment that reflect that desire.

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That that's the only way that desire gets filled.

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Yeah, love that.

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I was just listening to a podcast this morning.

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Jamie Kern Lima, do you know her?

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I'm sure she's the woman that started it Cosmetica.

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Yeah, she started it and she's got a book coming out about being worthy and she started it because she had Rosacea and she was literally on the news and they were telling her that something was wrong with her face.

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So she started a company and everybody told her no.

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And she kept persevering and somebody, a big investor said, I think, you know, I'm interested.

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But then he said, yeah, based on your body size and the looks of you, you would not be a good person to promote.

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And she kept going and she had the courage to like say, you know what?

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What she said, God's rejection is God's protection.

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And she ended up telling her business to L'Oreal several years later for so many billion dollars.

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And she's like the richest woman in the world kind of crazy, just the courage.

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So let's hear about you, your journey.

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What have you done courageous?

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I know you've had a professional career.

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Now you're doing a nonprofit.

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What are you passionate about?

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Tell us about your courage and your journey and.

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Um, well, I actually have two stories, but I'll start with this one.

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And then if we have time for the other one.

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Because I think a lot of times we do compartmentalize as women like professional courage versus personal courage.

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And I think, again, they're the same thing, right?

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It's just living out what we know to be right and true.

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And so when I used to practice as a clinical psychologist, such a privilege, you know,

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such a beautiful privilege to be a part of people's lives and to hear their stories and to have them trust you and to have them be vulnerable with you.

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Really a beautiful process.

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I was good at it.

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All of the things it was, um, it was a blessing and I learned a lot.

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But what happened is I had a major shift.

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Um, and I wouldn't say it's a major shift.

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Maybe it was just that the shoulds of who I was supposed to be and how I was supposed to become a clinical psychologist and hang out in your own shingle.

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And you're supposed to do all these things.

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And I did all of the things.

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And then I realized, but wait, this isn't really what I wanted to do.

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And so, um, God started bringing to mind that truth, that this wasn't really what I wanted to do, that I wanted to go out and speak and teach.

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And I wanted to talk to human beings, like they're human beings, not like their, their science experiments where we have to figure out what's wrong with them.

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And so that's the whole, um, you know, kind of platform of clinical psychology or any therapy work is to find out the problem, name it something, label it something and then treat the problem.

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Well, I think we're worth more than that.

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I know we're worth more than that.

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Um, one, I don't think we're broken.

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I don't think there's anything wrong with us in two.

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Um, we don't need to be treated.

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We need to be, um, encouraged and reminded that we were created with a specific purpose and the idea is how do I access that, that thing that's nagging and how do I walk in that, right?

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Not how do I find out what's wrong with me so I could be like everybody else.

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So God brought that to mind and I started having trouble sleeping and at night and I was always high flying when I like something stern and I gotta say yes to something.

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That's what it is.

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And so I just decided I no longer would diagnose people and that eventually led to me shifting my career and shutting down my private practice.

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And no longer practicing as a clinical psychologist.

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Probably took a lot of courage.

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So courage is not, I just kind of address this.

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It's not a feeling.

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It's not like, here we go.

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Watch me.

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Watch me do my thing.

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It's not that.

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It's, I feel so strongly about this that for me, I wasn't even going to waste my energy considering the consequences of that.

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That's awesome.

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I had to do it.

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I had to do it.

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And so it was the only way that I could have peace, you know, in my life.

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And so that's, that's what the courage is.

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It's just the doing.

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It's not that you know what you're doing when you're doing.

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It's not that you're fearless when you're doing.

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It's just the doing of what you feel compelled to do.

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And so, yeah, there were a lot of risks.

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There are a lot of consequences that came from that, you know, there's this, I think Leslie, I think that we confuse courage with outcomes that are always beneficial.

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And those outcomes aren't necessarily being the billionaire seller of IT cosmetics.

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That's wonderful.

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But that's not, that's the outcome that we're looking for that we want to see, you know, what we can see.

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We kind of put our trust in what we can see.

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But the real outcome, the real outcome of aligning you're doing with what you feel compelled to do with your convictions is the piece that you have from that.

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It's the, it's the fulfillment that you get from that.

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And that's something nobody can take from you.

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No, absolutely not.

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And I totally agree.

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You know, when I left corporate America, it was the same kind of thing.

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What are you doing?

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You have a massive degree and you're going to sell, you know, my full time career selling Mary Kay.

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And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to do it.

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Right.

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And but it gives me joy and fulfillment.

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And I love my life and so many people I know now are getting to the age of retirement.

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They're like, are you retiring?

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And they hate their life.

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They hate their job.

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No, I love what I do.

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You know, it fills my cup and fills other people.

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Why not they is doing the same thing?

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And that's, I love that you said that, you know, it's, it's, um, I love the question,

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why not today?

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Because sometimes people will say, I'll wait, right?

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Until the timing is right.

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Until the ducks are lined up in a row.

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The timing is never right.

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Nope.

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The timing is never, but the other, the, the Congress of that is, it's too late.

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And why not today says, no, it's not.

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If I'm right.

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If I'm still alive and breathing.

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So if you're in retirement age and you hate your job, why not today?

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It's not too late to start listening to that thing that's in the back of your

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mind, going, go do this.

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And so I have run into a lot of people recreating life and like, okay, what's next?

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In the line out today.

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And you know, my big why not today that I think I talked about a lot with this was

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when I quit my job and a lot of people question it and it wasn't like, has not replaced my

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It was like, there is a better world out there.

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And literally I made the choice to quit my job, some arbitrary date.

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And I just knew I could work hard enough and I could still live.

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Six months later, my dad had a major stroke and I was able to be there and I didn't have

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to go to work.

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I didn't have to report to somebody and I had that flexibility.

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It who's, you know, when I made that choice in November, I have no idea what was going

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to happen.

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That's right.

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And, but I did say why not today and I did it and I think, you know, it's the big

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thing that's the little things that's listening to your heart.

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It's not listening to the world.

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I think I'm sure you've got a lot of people in a lot of comments like, what the heck are

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you doing?

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I mean, it was, um, are you okay?

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I do too.

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Are you okay?

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Sherry?

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Are you sure Sherry?

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You know, and, um, yeah, because when you do go from six figures to four, that's what

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happened to me when I followed that conviction and aligned my conviction.

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See, it doesn't mean that if you align your convictions with your actions that it's going

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to turn out, um, well in terms of material things for you.

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But the fulfillment that we were talking about the content and the peace that comes

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from that and the knowledge that for me, that I'm, I'm being obedient to God in my

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purpose, that the gifting that he gave me that I'm being obedient.

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I don't have to worry about that stuff.

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Um, and so I think that the other piece of that.

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Of aligning your actions of being courageous is that you don't have to have the whole plan

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figured out.

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So when I shut down my practice, I really didn't know.

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I didn't have clarity.

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In fact, I started shutting down my practice in 2016.

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I didn't renew my license to practice in 2018 finally.

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So there was no more that.

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And then it wasn't until we're in 2023.

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It's been the last six months that I have crystal clear clarity on what my it is.

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So I say that to say that's seven years.

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So when you step out and you start doing, you will get there, but you can't have in

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your mind, I'll do it once I have the whole plan figured out because the plan comes to

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fruition as you're doing the doing.

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You know, and it's having the faith to say, okay, I'm going to take those little steps

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of yes, why not today's?

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To reach that.

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And my guess that I had on two weeks ago was the same kind of thing.

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It was a God conviction and you went into a ministry, but that it took probably about

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the same time as you, you know, and it takes time.

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And when we started this podcast recording, I told you, I don't record, I don't edit it.

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perfect.

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It's just giving people hope to just do the one thing and take the one step and try the

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So, and speaking of not perfect, I'm here, how sitting and dog sitting and the dogs usually

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Now it's playing with the toy.

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So let's talk about what you're doing and what you left your full time or your practice

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for and you can just, and just when we, I just asked you that question, your face lit up.

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Well, it's because I'm doing exactly what I know I'm supposed to be doing and all of

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my actions are aligned with that.

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So there's no gap in between what I want to do and what I am doing.

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That's the problem.

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What do you do?

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So what I am doing is I have a nonprofit.

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It's called thriving thoughts global.

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I founded it in the middle of the pandemic in 2020 after I had the courage to leave a

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relationship and ended up in the basement of a friend's house.

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A lot can happen from the space of darkness for those of you listening.

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So I started this nonprofit and the vision is to redefine mental health to teach people

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what it is as opposed to what it is not and to teach them that they can build and protect

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their own by changing the way that they think.

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So I tell people I left team treatment for team prevention.

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So that's what the nonprofit is doing.

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That's awesome.

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So you said you had another story you wanted to share.

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Well, I kind of alluded to it.

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That was the second courageous thing that I did was I had been in a relationship that

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I thought was it.

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You know, I thought it was my forever.

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I was 40 when I got into the relationship.

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We were together almost five years.

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We were living together.

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I thought this was my it but something in the back of my mind.

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And if I'm honest, since year two, maybe the end of year one together, I knew this wasn't it.

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But everything I did, I tried to make that nag go away and it wouldn't and thank God it

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wouldn't thank God it wouldn't.

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and kind of navigating my path forward started doing some organizational consulting started

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doing some thought coaching work as this whole idea of what it looks like to take charge

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of your thought space was developing and in improving your mental health.

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My relationship was deteriorating because precisely because I was doing that work.

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And so I understood for myself that this was not something that I could stay in.

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There was a there was a my own timing to that where I had to come to a place of seeking

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and listening and really being ready that come what may this was a decision I needed

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to make like the leap I made when I shut down my practice.

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This is very different one though, right?

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It's your it's it's a it's your heart.

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It's a heart leap.

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Personal one.

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I'm going to have a conversation.

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And if I don't hear what I need to hear in this conversation, then I'm going to leave.

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I was I couldn't even contain myself.

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So I was teaching a college class and I was on my way home from the college class and

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I just said, Hey, we need to talk.

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I can't wait till we get home.

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We need to start talking now and finish the conversation when I got home and I just said,

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OK, all right, well, then I'm moving out and within five days.

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I had everything moved out.

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I was into a friend's basement because I had nowhere to go.

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I write my career had ditched.

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So I really didn't have a lot financially to go on at the time.

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And I had my two big dogs and my friend just happened to say in another conversation entirely,

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you can come and stay in my basement and you can bring your two dogs.

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And I'm so excited for you.

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This is the beginning of a new chapter and it was so awesome.

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Got to love those friends too.

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Yeah, you have those people in your life that are just there for us.

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Let's talk about your nonprofit and how you help people and how how is it

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a nonprofit rather than a for-profit?

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And I know you're writing a book.

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So let's talk about all the things you're doing around that and how you can assist people or.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So the nonprofit again is it's all about messaging and awareness.

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So it's creating mental health literacy.

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It's giving every person the understanding that if you live and breathe and exist,

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you have a mental health, right?

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Mental health is not reserved for certain people.

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So the biggest part of what we do is messaging or redefining it.

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We're saying mental health is thinking, feeling and doing on purpose for your benefit and growth.

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That's what mental health is.

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Mental health is not anxiety.

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Mental health is not depression.

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That's mental ill health.

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Mental health, thinking, feeling and doing on purpose, right?

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So self-awareness, being deliberate, being intentional to align your actions with what you say you want.

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That's one of our tenants.

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We have seven tenants that people can find on the website, by the way, which is thrivingthoughtsglobal.org.

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So that's the biggest piece is messaging.

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So we do that through billboard campaigns, social media campaigns, YouTube videos.

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We're developing a podcast.

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All of our messaging is the biggest piece.

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And then we narrow that down into having community conversations.

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So where we can talk about mental health in the way that we're really talking about mental health.

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So we have a gathering called Grounded that I host in Franklin County, Pennsylvania,

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where I am once a month at a coffee shop and people are welcome to come.

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That information is on the website.

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Welcome to come.

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And we just have conversations.

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I ask questions and it gets people to think differently.

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So that's taking that messaging and starting to apply it now personally.

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And then the next level of work that we offer is online courses.

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Those will be launching in 2024.

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So these are courses that are for highly targeted audiences to who are going through certain experiences

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to give them the tools to thrive to grow through these experiences that they go through,

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as opposed to coping with or managing.

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And so the first one that we're developing is based on my first solo book,

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which was Breakup Breakthroughs.

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That's available on Amazon.

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If anybody wants to check that out.

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That was written in my friend's basement after I left.

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And it's 10 questions to ask and answer so you can thrive in the trauma of a relationship breakup.

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So that will be the first one that we're doing,

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but there will be other ones that will be about your spouse's diagnosed or and or maybe dies with brain cancer.

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You are moving in your child is having trouble adjusting to school like just normal life stuff that we go through

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that when we respond to it with intense feelings,

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we can sometimes based on the current mental health system structure,

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we can sometimes say there must be something wrong with me.

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Right. There's nothing wrong with you.

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You're human.

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You're responding to this in a normal way.

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the most narrow point of service provision is thought coaching.

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And right now I provide that that's virtual.

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It's individual.

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That's also the highest cost, right?

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So all of the messaging and the awareness and the education, all that is free.

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But you get down to the individual level and that's that's a cost to the consumer.

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And I do that right now, but the eventual goal is I will be training certifying T.T.G.

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certified thought coaches who will be able to then go and do that as well.

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So that's how we redefine mental health and teach you to prioritize your own.

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Love that.

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And I love the thrive component that, you know, we're not just surviving, but we're thriving.

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I had a conversation with somebody recently who unfortunately think it was more evidence,

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more often I've heard of relationships that have kind of fallen up, crumbled or stopped during COVID.

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And I think it was realization like, okay, what am I doing?

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Like, let's reevaluate life listening to ourselves.

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But I was talking to somebody who they never had children and her husband was very much

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introverted and they did everything pretty much themselves.

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And so she looked at me.

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She's like, she asked me a question I never had anybody asked me how to do escape marriage.

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I'm like, okay, nobody's ever asked me that.

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But she's learning how to be friends and have friends and have those relationships with people

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not in like a long term loving marriage relationship, but friends.

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And because I've never been married, I've got a great group of friends and I'm talking

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to somebody else recently divorced and she's like, need to talk about how do you thrive being single?

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Like the world tells us, you know, we have to be married, have to be in this relationship.

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But, you know, you can thrive in all areas of your life.

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And I love that you're addressing that and talking about it.

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And it's such a big need.

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I've interviewed somebody else on this.

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Laura Hayes and she talked about she's got a group called Brave Girl Project.

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Okay.

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Teenagers and teenage girls and starting young.

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And that's one of my passions with Mary Kay also is to help the young girls teach them how to take

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care of their skin and teach them how to feel good about themselves.

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Like girl self-esteem they said is highest at age 10, which is really scary.

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I think it's probably or I mean, it's probably earlier now.

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If I look back at my own story, I went on my first diet diet like saltine crackers, cottage cheese,

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tuna fish, right at eight.

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So and that was back in the eighties.

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Just crazy.

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So yeah, I love what you're doing and helping people.

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And when we're before we're done, I'll have you share how people can get in touch with you.

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I've gone on your website, but I haven't dived deep into it, but I'm going to.

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And I think we've got lots of great resources and connections.

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I knew I wanted you to be on here just to share your story.

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So let's talk about how do you encourage other people to be courageous to do the things to listen to their

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heart and their God calling.

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The first thing that I do as a thought coach as a messenger of all of this is understanding that the

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first thing you have to do is be honest with yourself.

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And if you can't be honest with yourself, you're never going to.

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You're never going to fulfill your God given purpose because the way I describe it is we spend,

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especially as women, we spend, if you look back to when you were a little girl, you will see.

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Who you are.

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You will see who you are.

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The person you are.

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For me, I hid myself away.

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I recorded myself like I was speaking to people.

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I wrote stories.

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I entered them into contest.

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I mean, I was a speaker, a writer, all of that before I came back to being that.

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And when we look back at who, yeah, when we look back at who we were when we were a little girl,

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we see a lot of who God designed us to be.

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But then what we do is we start piling on all of these shoulds and they're like layers, right?

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And then we get older and then we start to realize, wait, that's not part of me.

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Okay, let me take that off.

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Wait, that's not part of me.

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Okay, let me take that off.

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And but the only way to do that is to start investigating.

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Is this really me or is this who I think I should be?

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Is this who somebody has told me to be?

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Right?

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Like where am I?

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Where am I getting my ideas?

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Where am I getting my worth?

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Where am I?

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When I go out, am I looking to get somebody's feedback, right?

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Or am I looking to be me?

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So it's a bit, that's essentially how I do it.

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I get people to be honest with themselves by asking them questions that get them to think differently.

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And I'll leave you with this very, very short one.

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When you say, I have to do something, my question is, do you have to?

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Where?

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The answer always.

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Always.

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Don't challenge me.

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If you're going to be wrong, the answer is always no.

479
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Right.

480
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:04,100
Right.

481
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:10,900
But as soon as we can be honest with ourselves and say, I choose to, then we can start evaluating.

482
00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:14,400
Why am I choosing?

483
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:14,600
Yeah.

484
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,900
Do I want to choose that?

485
00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:16,500
Right?

486
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:18,400
Yeah.

487
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,400
You know, I do these to share with people and give people hope and share people's stories.

488
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,100
But really, I think I get more happy than anybody else.

489
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:30,200
Taking pages of notes and like, all right, some things I was struggling with last night thinking about.

490
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,000
You just gave me lots of confirmation.

491
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:32,800
So thank you.

492
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,800
Oh, good.

493
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,300
Thank you for your questions.

494
00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:37,900
Nothing wrong.

495
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:41,300
There's lots that, you know, following our dreams.

496
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:42,200
Yes.

497
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,900
You know, and that's what I'm doing with this.

498
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:45,200
Yeah.

499
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:45,600
Yeah.

500
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:52,100
Excited about touching lives and helping people and all the people that God has just putting in my path that

501
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:55,500
send their visions and hearing people's stories.

502
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:58,200
I'm like, oh my goodness, we have to share your story.

503
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,700
Just so many cool stories and people.

504
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:05,300
Thank you for making a platform for us to be able to do that and share with one another and encourage.

505
00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:08,900
I mean, I think that's, that's courageous, right?

506
00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:13,400
Is sharing your story, especially in the space that we call the in between, right?

507
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:21,700
Because like my nonprofit isn't what I envision it to be, but it is exactly as it should be right now because I'm showing up in it every day.

508
00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:22,300
Right.

509
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:22,500
Right.

510
00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:38,200
And I still have ideas and I still have big things that we want to accomplish, but I don't need to be at the I sold my, my nonprofit is impacting billions of people across the globe place to share my story of courage.

511
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,400
And I say that to say, we don't need success stories.

512
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,800
We need courage stories in the in between.

513
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,000
So thank you for providing a space for that.

514
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,700
My pleasure.

515
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:57,000
And, you know, and I think the thing that attracted me to this story that it cosmetics is not the billion dollar sale, but she's writing this book about being worthy.

516
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,300
Yeah.

517
00:27:57,300 --> 00:28:02,500
And all the things that she was told she couldn't or all the self-worth things.

518
00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:05,700
And like this book, she's writing 100% of the profits are going to charity.

519
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:09,100
And, you know, she's using her message for good.

520
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:10,000
Yeah.

521
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,800
And it's, you know, those courageous steps.

522
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,600
Yeah.

523
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,700
One thing after the other.

524
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:15,500
And that's right.

525
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:20,700
One step in front of the other and you don't need to know what comes next, but you can't stop.

526
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:21,100
Yeah.

527
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:24,700
Just taking those steps and realizing I'm going to share this lot.

528
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:26,900
I wear a starfish neck necklace often.

529
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:28,300
Do you know the story of the starfish?

530
00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:29,700
No.

531
00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:39,700
This guy was walking down the beach and if you listen to this podcast, you probably heard me tell you many times, but this guy was walking on the beach and picking up starfish and throwing him in the ocean and picking up starfish and throwing him in the ocean.

532
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:46,000
And they're like, what are you doing? Because I'm saving the starfish because there's thousands here. You will never make a difference.

533
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,800
And he picks one up and throws it in the water and said, I made a difference with that one.

534
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,300
Yeah.

535
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:54,400
I just feel like every day that we can just make a difference in one person's life.

536
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:54,900
Yeah.

537
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:56,000
Maybe it's just their own.

538
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,900
And that's right.

539
00:28:56,900 --> 00:29:02,600
You know, and you never know the ripple effect and the person you meet and just how I connect with you.

540
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:02,900
Yes.

541
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:14,100
And from Mary, who I met years ago, I totally loved touch with and it was, you know, a God moment that I was driving through Richmond and I was just reached out for him like, huh, you want me for coffee?

542
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:19,700
And it reconnected us and so many things in my life have happened because of that one thing.

543
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:23,200
So I really try to listen to that voice and it sounds like you do too.

544
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,900
God's voice does do this thing.

545
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:27,900
I have a courage to say, you know, why not today?

546
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:28,900
That's right.

547
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:29,300
Yeah.

548
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:30,700
So thank you so much for being on.

549
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:35,100
Anything else you want to share before we end this?

550
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:37,300
How do people find you and connect with you?

551
00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:39,500
And I will share it in the show notes.

552
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:40,500
Yeah.

553
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:42,100
So check us out.

554
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:44,100
ThrivingThoughtsGlobal.org.

555
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:50,600
We're at Thriving Thoughts Global on all the social channels, LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube.

556
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Yeah.

557
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000
Keep an eye out for us there.

558
00:29:52,000 --> 00:30:00,600
If you want to follow me personally and learn more about my personal ministry, which is helping women who are professing believers.

559
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,000
To take every thought captive.

560
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,900
You can follow me at doctor.shirryspeaks on Instagram or at Dr.

561
00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:08,900
Sherry on Facebook.

562
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:09,300
Okay.

563
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:12,500
I'm going to follow all those things in and you're writing a book too.

564
00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:13,200
Yep.

565
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,800
That's my personal ministry.

566
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,100
It's called mindset of the redeemed.

567
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:24,300
You know, people keep saying I should do that and that is just not something I feel called to do, but maybe one day.

568
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:26,200
You know, that.

569
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:33,300
So, well, you can find the Why Not Today podcast on all the platforms and a website, whynottodaypodcast.com.

570
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:39,100
I have Why Not Today swag, which I really want to share the message that people encouraging other people.

571
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:43,700
So we have stickers and vinyls and cups and t-shirts to share the mission.

572
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:45,400
And I think we're going to have some other things coming.

573
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,300
So you can find all those things on the website and feel free.

574
00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:58,800
We'd love to have you review it, like it, share it and just rate the podcast and share with other people.

575
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,800
And I'd love to hear if you're listening to podcasts, what you learned.

576
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,100
So Sherry, thank you so much for joining us.

577
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:04,900
Thank you.

578
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:10,800
And I'm looking forward to getting to know you better and maybe when your book's out, we'll have you back on.

579
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,500
We love it.

580
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:12,000
Thank you.

581
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,400
All right.

582
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,600
Thanks, everyone.

583
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,900
All right.

584
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:20,400
And goodbye.

