WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.500 Hey y 'all, welcome to Questions You Didn't Ask. 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:07.179 Did you know that this very spot could be showcasing 00:00:07.179 --> 00:00:10.320 your business or event? Whether it's an audio 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:14.460 ad on our podcast, or a visual ad on our new 00:00:14.460 --> 00:00:18.100 YouTube station, or even both, we've got the 00:00:18.100 --> 00:00:21.620 space for you. Nyesha Frey Consulting is reaching 00:00:21.620 --> 00:00:24.420 a growing audience of over a thousand leaders 00:00:24.420 --> 00:00:27.839 who are passionate about health equity, social 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:32.070 justice, and civil rights activism. These are 00:00:32.070 --> 00:00:35.329 professionals just like you working across higher 00:00:35.329 --> 00:00:40.409 education, research, healthcare, nonprofit, government, 00:00:40.590 --> 00:00:44.030 and even public health sectors. 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I'm Nyesha Frey here with Dr. Shanita 00:01:28.819 --> 00:01:31.840 Randolph and Dr. Reagan Johnson as we reflect 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:35.299 on what we've learned, what's next, and how each 00:01:35.299 --> 00:01:38.379 of us can advance health justice. Let's dive 00:01:38.379 --> 00:01:42.180 in and do it for ourselves. You never know where 00:01:42.180 --> 00:01:45.579 you're at and how you may be influencing the 00:01:45.579 --> 00:01:49.120 next generation or how you might be feeding into 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.480 strategies to advance health equity. And as Reagan 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:55.280 has shared, health justice, building toward health. 00:01:55.730 --> 00:01:58.870 justice by just saying, hey, I see you, sister. 00:01:59.370 --> 00:02:02.530 Come on over here. I got plenty of people. And 00:02:02.530 --> 00:02:05.469 I am an opinion leader, right? They don't listen 00:02:05.469 --> 00:02:08.150 to me. Just all you got to do is let your arm 00:02:08.150 --> 00:02:10.509 hang there so she can put herself on the press 00:02:10.509 --> 00:02:12.310 a couple times. She ain't asking for nothing 00:02:12.310 --> 00:02:15.289 else. Just come on now. And that helped you get 00:02:15.289 --> 00:02:19.750 to where you are. All right, Shanita, lean in. 00:02:19.870 --> 00:02:23.599 Why beauty salons and barbershops? They're definitely 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:27.400 trusted spaces, as Ray said. It's definitely 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:30.259 not a new concept, right? You think about Dr. 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:33.080 Loretta Germont and her work as a nurse scientist 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:36.659 around engaging barbershops in her work as well. 00:02:36.659 --> 00:02:40.599 There are others. It has just historically been 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:44.740 that space for communities to have safe conversations. 00:02:45.139 --> 00:02:48.300 And so it's a natural space. When we think about 00:02:48.300 --> 00:02:50.719 the sustainability of it, it's a natural space. 00:02:51.259 --> 00:02:54.259 I think one thing that we have been very specific 00:02:54.259 --> 00:02:56.639 about, though, why barbershops and beauty salons 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:59.240 and engaging them in ways that are sustainable, 00:02:59.419 --> 00:03:03.039 because although it has been a space, you know, 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:05.039 as we were talking earlier, is it sustainable? 00:03:05.219 --> 00:03:07.379 Right. Because they're entrepreneurs now. Much 00:03:07.379 --> 00:03:09.439 as they love the community, they are about their 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:12.680 money. Yes. Oh, we can't. We're not asking them 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:15.919 to be interventionist in this study. Right. It's 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:18.280 giving them the tools to do what they already 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:22.030 do. You know, when we think about even our stylists 00:03:22.030 --> 00:03:25.189 and barbers who have partnered with us, giving 00:03:25.189 --> 00:03:27.770 them a great big shout out and a thank you to 00:03:27.770 --> 00:03:32.030 them. We love and appreciate them so very much. 00:03:32.569 --> 00:03:36.349 They're doing stuff in their communities. Like 00:03:36.349 --> 00:03:40.310 they're not just curling and cutting hair. You 00:03:40.310 --> 00:03:43.949 know, I think about Tamika Hughes, who's one 00:03:43.949 --> 00:03:47.069 of our partners. She has a nonprofit that she 00:03:47.069 --> 00:03:50.099 started, Level Up Parenting. where she is really 00:03:50.099 --> 00:03:53.400 trying to be that resource for single parents 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.659 is how it started, because that was her lived 00:03:55.659 --> 00:03:58.919 experience. She was a single mom. And so how 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:01.120 does she give back? She has started Level Up 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:04.460 Parents and Jean Blackman, who has started establishing 00:04:04.460 --> 00:04:07.740 safe cultures. So these are barbers and stylists 00:04:07.740 --> 00:04:13.599 are just so engaged in the health and well -being 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:17.560 of their communities naturally. So it's just 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:20.220 an amazing space to really partner with them. 00:04:20.579 --> 00:04:23.879 That's awesome. I love it. We're going to get 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:28.160 into how can stylists, salons, and community 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:33.420 members get involved with Up News? Yes. So they 00:04:33.420 --> 00:04:37.740 can definitely reach out to upnews at duke .edu. 00:04:38.699 --> 00:04:42.360 That's how they can email us and contact us to 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:46.709 get engaged. We are engaging. Six counties across 00:04:46.709 --> 00:04:50.029 the state of North Carolina. Let me see if I 00:04:50.029 --> 00:04:53.089 can do these without missing one. Durham County, 00:04:53.389 --> 00:04:58.790 Guilford County, Forsyth County, Mecklenburg 00:04:58.790 --> 00:05:05.209 County, Cumberland County, Wake. I did it. And 00:05:05.209 --> 00:05:09.689 Wake County. So right now we are recruiting in 00:05:09.689 --> 00:05:11.910 the Cumberland County and Wake County areas. 00:05:12.620 --> 00:05:16.259 And so if there are beauty salons or stylists 00:05:16.259 --> 00:05:18.139 and owners that you know that are interested, 00:05:18.500 --> 00:05:22.680 they can reach out to updos at duke .edu to let 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:24.699 us know that they're interested in being a part 00:05:24.699 --> 00:05:26.860 and we can share more information. We're willing 00:05:26.860 --> 00:05:29.779 to come have lunch with you, send you information, 00:05:30.139 --> 00:05:33.480 have a Zoom call to just let you know what those 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:35.379 steps would look like. And so they can definitely 00:05:35.379 --> 00:05:39.860 contact us. I like to say as well that we're 00:05:39.860 --> 00:05:46.360 partners in creating. a platform for Black women 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:52.100 because it is a gap. And so really how I'm seeing 00:05:52.100 --> 00:05:54.459 this is that you're more than a research participant. 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:58.959 You're really a partner in creating what Black 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:03.180 women need for their health or not need. And 00:06:03.180 --> 00:06:05.459 I think this has given us an opportunity to see 00:06:05.459 --> 00:06:09.829 how effective Updo would be and will be. And 00:06:09.829 --> 00:06:11.649 what are some of the gaps and things that we 00:06:11.649 --> 00:06:14.389 need to consider as limitations in order to fix 00:06:14.389 --> 00:06:17.430 that? And so we're just asking for the community 00:06:17.430 --> 00:06:21.430 to partner with us in those efforts. Yeah. And 00:06:21.430 --> 00:06:23.790 I think you can also reach out to us on our website 00:06:23.790 --> 00:06:27.990 or follow us at our website, the heat lab, H 00:06:27.990 --> 00:06:34.470 -E -E -A -T lab dot org backslash updos. Yes. 00:06:34.550 --> 00:06:38.430 And just so everybody is clear, it's U -P -D 00:06:38.430 --> 00:06:43.740 -O. Right. So not do like your, like your bill 00:06:43.740 --> 00:06:47.740 is due. D -U -E. Not that. Not that. Like you're 00:06:47.740 --> 00:06:50.620 going out for the night. Going out. You looking 00:06:50.620 --> 00:06:55.620 cute. U -P -D -O -S. Okay. So, and remember there's 00:06:55.620 --> 00:06:59.839 two E's in heat. One for equity, one for engagement, 00:06:59.980 --> 00:07:03.759 then the A for advocacy, and then that T for 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:08.610 trust. So that's heat. H -E -E -A -T. All right. 00:07:08.730 --> 00:07:12.230 And so that's a dot org. What is that backslash 00:07:12.230 --> 00:07:15.529 or forward slash? It's a slash. It's one of them 00:07:15.529 --> 00:07:22.430 slashes. Right. You'll figure it out when it 00:07:22.430 --> 00:07:25.050 don't go through. Try the other side. OK, so. 00:07:27.310 --> 00:07:29.970 So so I'm so excited because, you know, by the 00:07:29.970 --> 00:07:33.029 time that this comes up, we're going to be. Moving 00:07:33.029 --> 00:07:35.269 through Cumberland, we're going to be advancing 00:07:35.269 --> 00:07:38.310 into Wake. We're going to be looking toward Durham 00:07:38.310 --> 00:07:42.550 and Forsyth and then Mecklenburg. So if y 'all 00:07:42.550 --> 00:07:46.129 are there and you are what we like to call high 00:07:46.129 --> 00:07:49.370 volume, well -established salons in those counties, 00:07:49.550 --> 00:07:54.769 hit us up, updues at duke .edu. So before we 00:07:54.769 --> 00:07:58.490 go, and as we start to wrap up, I love to talk 00:07:58.490 --> 00:08:02.800 about one. Let's think about what are our future 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:08.699 plans. And then also how, well, let's talk about 00:08:08.699 --> 00:08:12.459 this. Let's take it one at a time. So now that 00:08:12.459 --> 00:08:16.259 we know how people can get involved, what are 00:08:16.259 --> 00:08:19.680 your long -term goals for updos? And what does 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:24.360 success look like? I'll start with you, Shanita, 00:08:24.420 --> 00:08:27.120 with what are the long -term goals? And then 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:30.069 Reagan. be on standby for what does success look 00:08:30.069 --> 00:08:35.809 like? Yeah. The long -term goal is that updos 00:08:35.809 --> 00:08:40.210 will be an evidence -based intervention that 00:08:40.210 --> 00:08:44.809 can be accessible for nonprofits, other organizations 00:08:44.809 --> 00:08:48.750 doing health promotion around HIV, and just the 00:08:48.750 --> 00:08:52.570 lay community to have access to. That it is one 00:08:52.570 --> 00:08:56.440 that is, again, in our scientific world, it has 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:59.799 been proven to be effective. That is the long 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:03.600 -term goal. As a researcher, what we realize 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:07.980 is that, you know, we're not going to make it 00:09:07.980 --> 00:09:10.919 be something that is not, right? And so if our 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:14.220 results show that there are opportunities for 00:09:14.220 --> 00:09:17.720 growth in certain areas, our goal then will be 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:22.340 to address those limitations. So one way or another, 00:09:22.500 --> 00:09:25.679 we're going to learn if it works. And if we learn 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:27.940 that there's some things that are not quite working, 00:09:28.059 --> 00:09:29.740 we're going to move forward with making those 00:09:29.740 --> 00:09:32.100 improvements. The bottom line is that we are 00:09:32.100 --> 00:09:35.059 here for the community and making sure that Black 00:09:35.059 --> 00:09:39.440 women know what options are available so that 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.860 they can maintain and preserve their sexual health 00:09:41.860 --> 00:09:44.779 in whatever way that looks like for them. And 00:09:44.779 --> 00:09:48.700 so I love that. Reagan, what does success look 00:09:48.700 --> 00:09:51.220 like? I mean, maybe I said it, maybe not. Give 00:09:51.220 --> 00:09:53.740 me your idea on what does success look like? 00:09:53.950 --> 00:09:55.809 Yeah, I think both of those things, what you 00:09:55.809 --> 00:09:58.370 and Shanita said, right? I think we could also 00:09:58.370 --> 00:10:01.049 kind of, if we were looking to measure success, 00:10:01.309 --> 00:10:06.070 I think our states with the top 10 states or 00:10:06.070 --> 00:10:10.950 cities that's always highest in HIV, those specifically 00:10:10.950 --> 00:10:14.529 reproducing updos in some shape, form, or fashion. 00:10:14.870 --> 00:10:21.149 I think women understanding their choice, like 00:10:21.149 --> 00:10:25.159 if we could get to all black women across the 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:27.580 south at least understanding that they have a 00:10:27.580 --> 00:10:31.799 choice in hiv prevention i think that would give 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:36.799 us some success and then um i think success looks 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:46.480 like freedom freedom to choose choose their method 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.960 like you can choose prep you can choose other 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:51.940 things but just understanding that you have that 00:10:51.940 --> 00:10:57.029 freedom If you're enjoying the show as much as 00:10:57.029 --> 00:11:00.210 we love creating it, consider showing your support 00:11:00.210 --> 00:11:04.870 by buying us a cup of coffee. Visit buymeacoffee 00:11:04.870 --> 00:11:11.389 .com slash Nyesha Frey O. That's buymeacoffee 00:11:11.389 --> 00:11:18.230 .com forward slash Nyesha Frey O. All one word. 00:11:18.750 --> 00:11:23.009 Each cup is just $5 and every single one helps 00:11:23.009 --> 00:11:26.149 us continue to produce, develop, and sustain 00:11:26.149 --> 00:11:29.330 the high quality content you've come to expect 00:11:29.330 --> 00:11:32.669 from questions you didn't ask. Thank you for 00:11:32.669 --> 00:11:35.269 your continued support and let's keep the conversation 00:11:35.269 --> 00:11:38.230 going. Yeah, and one thing that we haven't talked 00:11:38.230 --> 00:11:40.250 about that I think is really important when we're 00:11:40.250 --> 00:11:42.450 thinking about Black women and HIV prevention 00:11:42.450 --> 00:11:45.929 is that we don't have to depend on someone else 00:11:45.929 --> 00:11:49.480 to tell us their status. right, for us to be 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:52.240 safe. And I think that's the big part of doing 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:55.740 it for ourselves, right, is if we're scared to 00:11:55.740 --> 00:11:59.860 ask the question, if we're not trusting the answer, 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:04.440 if we're depending on that other person to be 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:08.179 honest with us and that doesn't really work out, 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:12.440 we have other means and measures to protect ourselves 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:16.580 and not have to be dependent on someone else. 00:12:17.580 --> 00:12:19.899 Because there's lots of reasons why people don't 00:12:19.899 --> 00:12:23.679 tell. Some of those reasons can be assessed as 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:25.600 good and some of those reasons can be assessed 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:29.159 as bad. But the point is, is that whether you're 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:32.179 a person that's living with HIV, there's treatment. 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:35.580 If you're a person that does not have HIV, there's 00:12:35.580 --> 00:12:39.419 effective prevention. And so moving the needle 00:12:39.419 --> 00:12:43.039 on awareness. Of those things, especially for 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:45.399 Black women, being able to prevent transmission 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:49.820 of HIV is very, very important. And so I love 00:12:49.820 --> 00:12:51.960 what you said about freedom. This is also a type 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:55.080 of freedom is not being dependent. Right. And 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:58.159 so we want people to talk. You know, we want 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.500 people to share. We want people to be truthful 00:13:00.500 --> 00:13:03.080 and honest. But the data shows that's not what's 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:07.779 happening. So as much as we want that to happen. 00:13:08.649 --> 00:13:12.009 We have to provide and innovate other solutions 00:13:12.009 --> 00:13:15.909 and strategies. And fortunately, medicine, technology, 00:13:16.190 --> 00:13:19.289 science, research has provided PrEP, which is 00:13:19.289 --> 00:13:21.769 how effective is PrEP in preventing transmission? 00:13:22.309 --> 00:13:27.850 Up to 99%. Up to 99 % effective. So in other 00:13:27.850 --> 00:13:32.210 words, if you are a person who is having a sexual 00:13:32.210 --> 00:13:36.559 relationship with another person. who does have 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:39.519 HIV, whether you know it or not, if you're having 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.399 a sexual relationship with them and you're not 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:46.860 using condoms and you're taking PrEP, the science 00:13:46.860 --> 00:13:50.059 says that it's 99 % effective in preventing you 00:13:50.059 --> 00:13:53.419 from contracting HIV from that person. That's 00:13:53.419 --> 00:13:58.679 powerful. That's huge. It cannot be understated. 00:13:59.389 --> 00:14:02.210 And so one of the things that we want to do is 00:14:02.210 --> 00:14:04.529 not give away all of our, you know, secret sauce 00:14:04.529 --> 00:14:08.350 of our research, right? But we definitely want 00:14:08.350 --> 00:14:12.389 to make the point about why this research, why 00:14:12.389 --> 00:14:15.149 this approach is so innovative, so powerful, 00:14:15.210 --> 00:14:17.750 and why we want people to be involved and why 00:14:17.750 --> 00:14:21.169 we are inviting more funders to support this 00:14:21.169 --> 00:14:25.169 work, right? More collaborative partners of like 00:14:25.169 --> 00:14:28.419 mind, like spirit. to be a part of the heat lab 00:14:28.419 --> 00:14:31.960 in this important work. So one of the things 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:34.820 that I also love to leave my audience with are 00:14:34.820 --> 00:14:38.379 additional tools, additional, you know, things. 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:43.700 What are the people, organizations, books or 00:14:43.700 --> 00:14:48.120 movements that inspire you in your work in health 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:51.240 equity? I mean, we're at a time where I think 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:54.879 I know myself. I am constantly looking for inspiration, 00:14:55.100 --> 00:14:58.960 right? To stay filled up, right? And not be discouraged. 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:02.279 So as you're moving through this work and over 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:04.320 the years, right? Because this isn't our first 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:06.139 time of things being difficult. Let's just say 00:15:06.139 --> 00:15:08.720 that, okay? But what are some of the things that 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:12.360 really motivate you and keep you moving forward? 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:16.960 A lot of things keep me going. I think faith. 00:15:17.500 --> 00:15:21.600 of course, and heart for the work. Right now, 00:15:21.820 --> 00:15:24.879 I do a lot of reading to kind of keep me engaged 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:28.019 and give me direction. So right now I'm reading 00:15:28.019 --> 00:15:32.019 Let This Radicalize You. And it's organizing 00:15:32.019 --> 00:15:35.000 and the revolution of reciprocal care. It's a 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:39.179 book by Kelly Hayes and Mary Ann. It's a really, 00:15:39.259 --> 00:15:43.779 really, really good understanding of how you 00:15:43.779 --> 00:15:48.230 organize people. to mobilize them for change. 00:15:50.169 --> 00:15:52.070 Thank you for sharing that title. I'm going to 00:15:52.070 --> 00:15:54.809 have to look into that and lean in some more 00:15:54.809 --> 00:15:57.629 into what that has to share. And I hope my audience 00:15:57.629 --> 00:16:01.090 does too. Thinking about, you know, even people. 00:16:01.549 --> 00:16:04.429 People whose careers that inspire us or organizations 00:16:04.429 --> 00:16:06.889 that we look to and say, wow, that's awesome. 00:16:06.950 --> 00:16:08.649 I would love to be able to do something like 00:16:08.649 --> 00:16:11.750 that. Is there anything like that or any person 00:16:11.750 --> 00:16:14.929 like that for you, Shanita, that maybe you look 00:16:14.929 --> 00:16:17.429 to? And I definitely appreciate where you're 00:16:17.429 --> 00:16:19.490 coming from, Reagan, in regard to lifting up 00:16:19.490 --> 00:16:24.110 our faith, which is very critical. The first 00:16:24.110 --> 00:16:27.789 thing that comes to my mind in answering that 00:16:27.789 --> 00:16:32.740 question. It's an unlikely answer, but it is 00:16:32.740 --> 00:16:37.519 actually a faith -based organization that I have 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:41.419 been affiliated with since college. And the leader 00:16:41.419 --> 00:16:47.240 has just signed an agreement with a major healthcare 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:54.240 organization where they will build on their faith 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:57.879 -based organization has 65 acres of land. They're 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:02.500 partnering with a health care organization to 00:17:02.500 --> 00:17:07.619 build a facility on their land and partnering 00:17:07.619 --> 00:17:10.119 with them, this faith -based organization, to 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:13.680 deliver health care, particularly in that particular 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:18.200 community. They have mobile units that will come 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:21.500 to the community for regular screenings. And 00:17:21.500 --> 00:17:25.400 I have been inspired by that in terms of health 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:30.480 equity. Because it is holistic and the church 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:36.319 bringing, there's power there, right? This land 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:41.359 belongs to us and we're keeping it. There's a 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.799 food desert here. There's health needs that need 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:47.000 to be met here. So it looks at the whole self. 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:50.059 So that has been a movement and an organization 00:17:50.059 --> 00:17:52.940 most recently. I think that has inspired me. 00:17:53.019 --> 00:17:57.000 Like it's inspired thinking. Around how we are 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:01.920 to address equity. It also puts the ownership 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:08.000 and the power in the community. Right. The power 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:13.140 doesn't lie with us. The power really lies within 00:18:13.140 --> 00:18:17.279 the community. How we can position ourselves 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:23.099 to be facilitators and partners with them. Whereas 00:18:23.099 --> 00:18:26.279 our normal work has been. We've been seeking 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:29.059 them out as partners. They know how to do this. 00:18:30.220 --> 00:18:33.799 The community knows how to do the real work of 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:37.160 addressing health equity. And so how do we position 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:41.519 ourselves to be servant leaders for the community 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:44.900 to be able to continue to build and sustain in 00:18:44.900 --> 00:18:47.799 this way? And so it's really caused me to reframe 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:52.539 and rethink my positioning as a researcher and 00:18:52.539 --> 00:18:57.750 as a scientist. been very encouraged by the health 00:18:57.750 --> 00:19:00.529 equity work that they are that they are doing 00:19:00.529 --> 00:19:07.349 that is a business model sustainable and very 00:19:07.349 --> 00:19:12.569 impactful and and i appreciate that too because 00:19:12.569 --> 00:19:16.390 by sharing these types of resources my purpose 00:19:16.390 --> 00:19:19.650 with questions you didn't ask is to make sure 00:19:19.650 --> 00:19:23.670 that people understand you are not alone in this 00:19:23.670 --> 00:19:26.569 fight to advance health equity and to build towards 00:19:26.569 --> 00:19:29.750 health justice there are a number of partners 00:19:29.750 --> 00:19:33.349 and organizations and ways to innovate you don't 00:19:33.349 --> 00:19:35.930 have to feel helpless you don't have to feel 00:19:35.930 --> 00:19:39.329 hopeless you don't have to feel as though your 00:19:39.329 --> 00:19:43.579 dreams are you know far off and far away yeah 00:19:43.579 --> 00:19:45.000 it's going to take some work and it's going to 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:46.799 take some time and some investment and things 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:49.400 like that but there are examples of people who 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:51.980 are doing it that you may be able to learn from 00:19:51.980 --> 00:19:55.119 and cut that timeline down right and so what 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:58.779 we want to do is to help facilitate collective 00:19:58.779 --> 00:20:03.140 action so that we can start to be the change 00:20:03.140 --> 00:20:06.380 that we wish to see in the world right and so 00:20:06.380 --> 00:20:10.549 final thoughts Is there a message you want our 00:20:10.549 --> 00:20:13.509 listeners to take away about health equity, community 00:20:13.509 --> 00:20:17.589 and the power of doing it for ourselves as we 00:20:17.589 --> 00:20:21.210 close out? Yeah, I think I'd say health equity 00:20:21.210 --> 00:20:26.289 is everyone's work. And as I said earlier, ain't 00:20:26.289 --> 00:20:30.920 nobody coming to save us. So part of. Being radicalized 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.380 to organize, it's like Shanita said, organizing 00:20:33.380 --> 00:20:36.960 the troops on the ground, the grassroots community 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:42.339 in order to get where they need, how they want 00:20:42.339 --> 00:20:47.900 to get there. Yes. Thank you, Reagan. Yeah, I 00:20:47.900 --> 00:20:51.339 would just say the last part about the power, 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:54.339 doing it for ourselves, that realizing that this 00:20:54.339 --> 00:21:00.859 work is hard. Particularly where we are now in 00:21:00.859 --> 00:21:04.440 our society, it's a lot of things. It's hard. 00:21:04.779 --> 00:21:08.640 It's disappointing. It causes a lot of emotions. 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:13.180 And continue to do the work, but also continue 00:21:13.180 --> 00:21:16.720 to find space of peace, space for restoration, 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:23.119 space for hope, and space for yourself individually. 00:21:23.420 --> 00:21:26.259 Because if you cannot take care of yourself, 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:29.400 then... You can't do this work. And so just finding 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:33.539 that whatever that looks like for you as you 00:21:33.539 --> 00:21:36.059 continue to do this work around health equity, 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:38.920 just make sure internally that we are taking 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:42.779 care of ourselves holistically. And that's a 00:21:42.779 --> 00:21:50.099 message for Shanita. I can relate. I resonate 00:21:50.099 --> 00:21:52.759 as well, Shanita. I think it's for you, me, and 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:55.200 everyone else that is listening today is that 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:58.359 we do have to remember that this work is worthy. 00:21:58.539 --> 00:22:01.759 It's important. In some cases, it's even critical, 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:06.160 right? It's a necessity. It is hard. But what's 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:08.799 also a necessity is that we have to take care 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:11.359 of ourselves before we can take care of anybody 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:14.680 else. And so that I appreciate that reminder. 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:18.099 And with that. I want to say thank you, thank 00:22:18.099 --> 00:22:20.440 you, thank you, Dr. Shanita Randolph and Dr. 00:22:20.619 --> 00:22:23.039 Reagan Johnson for joining Questions You Didn't 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:27.059 Ask and making this such a wonderful, rich conversation 00:22:27.059 --> 00:22:29.900 and allowing us to learn more about your work, 00:22:30.019 --> 00:22:33.079 your leadership, and your research. Thank you. 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:35.160 Thank you for having us.