WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.899 Hello, my name is Baron J. Damon. I'm your certified 00:00:02.899 --> 00:00:05.780 philanthropic coach. We support individuals and 00:00:05.780 --> 00:00:08.779 businesses in crafting strategic plans for their 00:00:08.779 --> 00:00:11.339 charitable giving. Confused about where you want 00:00:11.339 --> 00:00:13.419 to start? Join me for a complimentary session 00:00:13.419 --> 00:00:16.539 today to explore your passions and craft a plan 00:00:16.539 --> 00:00:19.199 for meaningful impact. Let's make a difference 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:37.179 together. Go to www .businessoflifecc .com. Welcome 00:00:37.179 --> 00:00:40.060 back to Questions You Didn't Ask. I'm Nyesha 00:00:40.060 --> 00:00:42.560 Frey, and this is the fourth and final episode 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:45.759 of No Health, No Wealth, Economic Justice and 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:48.820 Health Equity. Over the past episodes, we've 00:00:48.820 --> 00:00:51.740 explored powerful connections between money and 00:00:51.740 --> 00:00:54.979 health. And today we bring it all together. Let's 00:00:54.979 --> 00:00:57.780 get back to the conversation. I agree, Keisha. 00:00:58.020 --> 00:01:01.280 You know, I reflect on that just in terms of, 00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:04.739 you know, I'm privileged. to sit on a small but 00:01:04.739 --> 00:01:09.280 mighty Black Family Foundation board. And we 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:15.019 do a lot with a little. And we make real impacts 00:01:15.019 --> 00:01:18.260 in the community and to build that social capital 00:01:18.260 --> 00:01:20.879 that you were talking about and that helps to 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:23.859 build generational wealth in regard to the relationships, 00:01:24.140 --> 00:01:27.680 the trust, the advocacy, the persistence and 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:31.060 consistence. innovation and creativity. And the 00:01:31.060 --> 00:01:35.379 fact that it is inspired by the life of a Black 00:01:35.379 --> 00:01:39.519 man and his family and siblings chose to carry 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:44.319 on. He died young and carry on his legacy through 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:48.099 a foundation that would help to invest into the 00:01:48.099 --> 00:01:51.739 community that helped to nurture him and invest 00:01:51.739 --> 00:01:54.920 into the community that is rural, that is poor, 00:01:55.140 --> 00:01:59.560 that is Black. But yet it yielded. this exceptional 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:03.579 young Black man whose life got cut short, right? 00:02:03.739 --> 00:02:06.700 And so we continue to invest back into that community 00:02:06.700 --> 00:02:10.780 for us, by us, about us, and in partnership with 00:02:10.780 --> 00:02:14.219 others, right? So to your point about, you know, 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:17.599 having a focus, right, that might be focused 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:21.419 on Black people, but you still attract and attain 00:02:21.419 --> 00:02:25.240 and retain a wider audience that can find that 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.479 to be approachable. I mean, you can be unapologetically 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:33.879 Black, right? You can. So it's got to be good. 00:02:34.939 --> 00:02:37.560 That part. Yeah, it's got to be good. It's got 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:42.099 to be good. And we talked about something. Rod, 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.819 let me know. You good? Yeah, I'm watching y 'all 00:02:45.819 --> 00:02:50.780 do that magic thing. Okay, okay, okay. We watching 00:02:50.780 --> 00:02:52.919 you too, brother. Y 'all got y 'all own magic. 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:56.449 We got to get y 'all going. You got your joy 00:02:56.449 --> 00:02:59.129 going on. That's right. You're a Black man, Joy. 00:02:59.169 --> 00:03:04.210 I love it. So I'm going to turn this a little 00:03:04.210 --> 00:03:07.270 bit back to a conversation that you started, 00:03:07.430 --> 00:03:11.469 Keisha, in regard to Black women exiting the 00:03:11.469 --> 00:03:14.289 workforce, right? And so we talked about the 00:03:14.289 --> 00:03:17.370 difference between, you know, I can't take it 00:03:17.370 --> 00:03:19.669 no more. I got to do something else because this 00:03:19.669 --> 00:03:24.210 ain't it, right? Versus being forced out. And 00:03:24.210 --> 00:03:28.310 so I want to talk about this trend of layoffs. 00:03:28.870 --> 00:03:32.750 And, you know, I've seen it on so many levels. 00:03:32.810 --> 00:03:35.449 We've talked about the challenges that even people 00:03:35.449 --> 00:03:40.469 who have degrees, that have so -called good jobs, 00:03:40.669 --> 00:03:43.310 right, we have in regard to health and health 00:03:43.310 --> 00:03:47.050 care, right? But we also know that these are 00:03:47.050 --> 00:03:50.050 some of the same people that are targeted for 00:03:50.050 --> 00:03:54.199 layoffs. And in my discussions, With a variety 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:57.500 of exceptionally skilled, talented, educated 00:03:57.500 --> 00:04:01.099 Black people, some of what has come up, especially 00:04:01.099 --> 00:04:03.599 in the conversation around tech industry and 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:06.719 how they use layoffs, is that sometimes they 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:10.719 use layoffs to help with their balance sheet, 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:16.759 stock market performance, satisfy different segments 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:23.709 of their board or investors. I would like to 00:04:23.709 --> 00:04:26.649 hear, Farah, maybe some reflection from you about 00:04:26.649 --> 00:04:30.529 how does this trend of layoffs and what we now 00:04:30.529 --> 00:04:32.990 call restructuring, right? They also use that 00:04:32.990 --> 00:04:37.389 word restructuring, by corporations. Can we talk 00:04:37.389 --> 00:04:41.350 about how this uniquely tends to affect marginalized 00:04:41.350 --> 00:04:45.589 and minoritized workers and entrepreneurs, or 00:04:45.589 --> 00:04:47.509 mainly just workers, because we're talking about 00:04:47.509 --> 00:04:49.350 layoffs and restructuring, but even entrepreneurs? 00:04:49.509 --> 00:04:52.560 I mean, I've seen it with contracts, right? You've 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:55.439 got contracts through a corporation. They're 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:58.420 restructuring. They're, you know, lost a whole 00:04:58.420 --> 00:05:01.959 wad of money from NIH or Department of Education. 00:05:02.379 --> 00:05:06.279 And now as a contractor, they pulled your money. 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:08.240 Now, there might be some differences in terms 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:11.360 of being an employee and getting a severance. 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:15.379 You know, can we just lean into that a little 00:05:15.379 --> 00:05:17.939 bit more and what we're seeing going on around 00:05:17.939 --> 00:05:21.649 us? So I think it's important that we always 00:05:21.649 --> 00:05:26.170 have economic mobility. I was raised in an environment 00:05:26.170 --> 00:05:31.069 where we all had a hustle, right? If it was Amway, 00:05:31.410 --> 00:05:37.990 cutting hair, you know, Shackley products, multi 00:05:37.990 --> 00:05:44.329 -level marketing, fixing cars, doing hair. I 00:05:44.329 --> 00:05:46.629 mean, we can do this, right? Selling t -shirts, 00:05:46.910 --> 00:05:55.389 cooking pies. selling, you know, right. Records 00:05:55.389 --> 00:05:59.810 out the back of the trunk, washing cars, mowing 00:05:59.810 --> 00:06:03.410 lawns. I guess I'm trying to say, you know, I 00:06:03.410 --> 00:06:06.490 know people that I know professional people that 00:06:06.490 --> 00:06:11.670 have, you know, other second, secondary jobs, 00:06:11.910 --> 00:06:17.209 if I may say so. I think it's always important 00:06:17.209 --> 00:06:22.610 to have economic mobility. And when you don't 00:06:22.610 --> 00:06:28.949 have economic mobility, you are subject to the 00:06:28.949 --> 00:06:32.930 market environment, which could put you in a 00:06:32.930 --> 00:06:38.709 layoff space. And typically they start with lowest. 00:06:39.370 --> 00:06:43.269 value employees or lowest. And we really have 00:06:43.269 --> 00:06:47.709 to be mindful and concerned with AI coming in 00:06:47.709 --> 00:06:54.970 on this impact to really, you know, job repurposing 00:06:54.970 --> 00:06:59.930 going from human to computers and our ability 00:06:59.930 --> 00:07:04.629 to really reposition our skill sets to lead those 00:07:04.629 --> 00:07:07.769 computers. or to do something that's like you're 00:07:07.769 --> 00:07:13.629 not going to ai a plumber right and i'm not going 00:07:13.629 --> 00:07:17.310 to ai a barber and i'm not going to ai my real 00:07:17.310 --> 00:07:20.009 estate agent i mean you know certain things you're 00:07:20.009 --> 00:07:23.149 not going to ai so i think it's important to 00:07:23.149 --> 00:07:27.769 recognize that markets have ebbs and flows but 00:07:27.769 --> 00:07:34.670 technology is moving at a vicious rapid pace 00:07:35.689 --> 00:07:40.129 that makes things happen really quickly and impact 00:07:40.129 --> 00:07:42.490 the families and lives of people who are at the 00:07:42.490 --> 00:07:45.310 bottom of the list and i'm not talking about 00:07:45.310 --> 00:07:46.889 people that are necessarily at the bottom i'm 00:07:46.889 --> 00:07:50.970 talking about these six well you may not be replaced 00:07:50.970 --> 00:07:55.269 by ai but with ai assistance you may not companies 00:07:55.269 --> 00:07:59.290 may not need to have as many people because they 00:07:59.290 --> 00:08:04.149 can be assisted by ai so we see this in the doctor's 00:08:04.149 --> 00:08:07.560 office where They don't need to have a transcriber 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:10.420 or a scribe in there because they're using AI 00:08:10.420 --> 00:08:14.379 to help them with their notes and to document. 00:08:14.540 --> 00:08:19.000 So instead of needing more doctors or more scribes 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:23.360 to help with the record keeping, we don't need 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:26.160 to have as many physicians to see the same number 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:29.680 of patients. We don't need as much support staff. 00:08:30.350 --> 00:08:33.230 in order to make sure that we're meeting all 00:08:33.230 --> 00:08:35.429 the regulations. So it's not even a matter of 00:08:35.429 --> 00:08:39.769 completely being replaced. At this point, it's 00:08:39.769 --> 00:08:42.389 the fact that AI is providing so much support 00:08:42.389 --> 00:08:47.830 that they'll need less of the people. So it still 00:08:47.830 --> 00:08:52.230 is taking away jobs in that area as well. And 00:08:52.230 --> 00:08:55.269 you're right. And then when I say the bottom 00:08:55.269 --> 00:08:57.710 of the pit, it's not the bottom realm of the 00:08:57.710 --> 00:08:59.830 economy. I mean, it's the bottom of every... 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:06.139 You're hearing, your perception is saying the 00:09:06.139 --> 00:09:09.840 bottom of the income stratosphere. I'm saying 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:14.240 the lowest on the stratosphere from zero to 50, 00:09:14.460 --> 00:09:17.480 the lowest on the stratosphere from 100 to 50, 00:09:17.620 --> 00:09:20.600 the lowest on the stratosphere from 200 to 100. 00:09:20.899 --> 00:09:23.860 It's the ones at the lowest part of that salary 00:09:23.860 --> 00:09:27.279 when they start doing reduction that they start. 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.220 Oh, look, I'll even say with real estate, right? 00:09:31.700 --> 00:09:34.440 We've been relying on AI for a long time. We've 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.279 just been calling it an algorithm. So when we 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:40.940 talk about whether we're using the websites to 00:09:40.940 --> 00:09:44.620 look at what real estate is available to purchase, 00:09:44.740 --> 00:09:47.559 even as we have our conversations with agents, 00:09:47.659 --> 00:09:49.980 you know, we're not going, I'm an agent myself. 00:09:50.139 --> 00:09:52.519 It's not like back in the day when you went to 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:55.970 a real estate agent. And they had a big old binder 00:09:55.970 --> 00:09:58.549 with pictures of houses that you were going through. 00:09:58.669 --> 00:10:00.970 And then they put things out for you. Now you 00:10:00.970 --> 00:10:02.730 come in ready. Like I've looked at three houses. 00:10:02.850 --> 00:10:04.990 These are the ones I want to look at. Make that 00:10:04.990 --> 00:10:07.850 happen. They're like a facilitator. So it takes 00:10:07.850 --> 00:10:11.049 less time, right? So we've been relying, whether 00:10:11.049 --> 00:10:14.629 it's Siri or Alexa, any of these, we've been 00:10:14.629 --> 00:10:18.509 relying on AI. It's just, it's much more in front. 00:10:18.570 --> 00:10:21.830 It's not just a convenience. Like, oh, let me 00:10:21.830 --> 00:10:25.179 find some like silly fact. We're saying the quiet 00:10:25.179 --> 00:10:29.100 part out loud. Exactly, exactly. And so that's 00:10:29.100 --> 00:10:33.519 definitely the difference. And the schedulers, 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:36.440 and like I said, even the higher levels where 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:38.919 AI, we've seen this in the computer industry 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:41.740 and the tech industry, where it's like, well, 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:45.139 with our AI and algorithms, yes, we still need 00:10:45.139 --> 00:10:48.659 a human, but we don't need quite as many humans. 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:52.799 And that... disposable factor usually are the 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:56.179 most marginalized people in the room. That's 00:10:56.179 --> 00:11:00.000 right. If you're enjoying the show as much as 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:03.220 we love creating it, consider showing your support 00:11:03.220 --> 00:11:07.860 by buying us a cup of coffee. Visit buymeacoffee 00:11:07.860 --> 00:11:14.320 .com slash Nyesha Frey O. 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I'm thinking 00:12:02.690 --> 00:12:08.070 about folks who are 20 years into a career, inching 00:12:08.070 --> 00:12:11.669 toward retirement. But not quite close enough 00:12:11.669 --> 00:12:17.629 to get the benefits. That part. Well, that's 00:12:17.629 --> 00:12:19.769 why that insurance being tied to employment. 00:12:20.190 --> 00:12:24.269 Right. And if you you don't quite qualify for 00:12:24.269 --> 00:12:27.789 Medicaid and that's where folks who are working 00:12:27.789 --> 00:12:31.269 class, well, people who are working class but 00:12:31.269 --> 00:12:34.070 think they're middle class are vulnerable. Right. 00:12:34.389 --> 00:12:36.750 Those are the folks that are vulnerable because 00:12:36.750 --> 00:12:39.929 you're you make too much money to qualify for 00:12:39.929 --> 00:12:43.110 Medicaid, but not enough money that you can just, 00:12:43.110 --> 00:12:46.250 you know, we can dip into a savings so that you 00:12:46.250 --> 00:12:49.710 can can just pay things out of pocket. Right. 00:12:49.929 --> 00:12:53.169 You know, that's where the unemployment really 00:12:53.169 --> 00:12:57.330 takes a toll. And then on top of that, what we 00:12:57.330 --> 00:13:01.210 haven't discussed is, you know, when black people 00:13:01.210 --> 00:13:05.850 make more money, we also are usually subsidizing 00:13:05.850 --> 00:13:09.309 other family members. Right. So it's not just 00:13:09.309 --> 00:13:12.669 your own household. It's the money that is going 00:13:12.669 --> 00:13:15.990 out to fill in the gaps that the government policies 00:13:15.990 --> 00:13:19.990 are leaving behind. Right. So there's that ripple 00:13:19.990 --> 00:13:22.610 effect. So it affects your health. Like you may 00:13:22.610 --> 00:13:26.169 be paying for another family member's medicine 00:13:26.169 --> 00:13:29.230 or their co -pays. And then now you don't have 00:13:29.230 --> 00:13:31.049 that money. That means that not only are you 00:13:31.049 --> 00:13:32.769 not paying for yourself, you're not paying for 00:13:32.769 --> 00:13:37.450 that other family member's needs as well. Yeah. 00:13:37.490 --> 00:13:39.529 And then you've got the mental health issue of 00:13:39.529 --> 00:13:42.990 self -esteem. A lot of people, their jobs is 00:13:42.990 --> 00:13:47.250 who they are. And so if I'm no longer working 00:13:47.250 --> 00:13:51.009 for a big healthcare company in this community, 00:13:51.190 --> 00:13:56.269 that I'm no longer who I think I am, right? That 00:13:56.269 --> 00:13:59.809 creates all kinds of systematic things that could 00:13:59.809 --> 00:14:05.490 happen bad inside the house, right? And which 00:14:05.490 --> 00:14:08.110 will create things that could happen that comes 00:14:08.110 --> 00:14:13.110 out exterior to houses breaking up, houses being 00:14:13.110 --> 00:14:15.730 sold. I mean, I can go on and on, but I think 00:14:15.730 --> 00:14:21.570 the oppression, of losing your job when it is 00:14:21.570 --> 00:14:27.350 key to your lifestyle can provide a real oppression. 00:14:27.809 --> 00:14:32.769 And if you have no faith and no economic mobility 00:14:32.769 --> 00:14:38.090 and lack of confidence, depression sits in and 00:14:38.090 --> 00:14:42.149 depression manifests itself in ways that is unhealthy 00:14:42.149 --> 00:14:47.570 for your physical body. And it can actually come 00:14:47.570 --> 00:14:50.250 out and hurt other people's physical body by 00:14:50.250 --> 00:14:52.789 the way you treat them and it manifests yourself. 00:14:53.289 --> 00:14:55.450 And we're not even talking around things like 00:14:55.450 --> 00:15:01.289 suicide, right? Exactly. No, absolutely. And 00:15:01.289 --> 00:15:05.690 that's a big part of the conversation that we 00:15:05.690 --> 00:15:09.970 also need to have is how we can reframe your 00:15:09.970 --> 00:15:13.909 experience, right? So it may be that the job 00:15:13.909 --> 00:15:18.289 that you are in or that you were in It's no longer 00:15:18.289 --> 00:15:22.730 there. And you can mourn that briefly. But when 00:15:22.730 --> 00:15:24.909 people talk about pivot, you know, you got to 00:15:24.909 --> 00:15:27.490 pivot. It doesn't mean that you have to lose 00:15:27.490 --> 00:15:30.850 your purpose or lose your soul. It doesn't mean 00:15:30.850 --> 00:15:34.190 that you're a sellout. It just means that you 00:15:34.190 --> 00:15:38.649 have to repackage yourself in a way so that you 00:15:38.649 --> 00:15:42.789 can pay the bills. And there is no shame in that. 00:15:43.389 --> 00:15:46.090 Oftentimes, what we don't talk about, especially 00:15:46.090 --> 00:15:51.029 in my area, you know, I look at racism and health, 00:15:51.049 --> 00:15:54.269 racism and education. I look at, you know, gender. 00:15:54.409 --> 00:15:57.269 I look at Black women. Basically, all my favorite 00:15:57.269 --> 00:16:01.750 words are banned by the federal government. And 00:16:01.750 --> 00:16:05.769 so I'm always thinking about, well, what can 00:16:05.769 --> 00:16:09.029 I compromise on and what are the non -negotiables 00:16:09.029 --> 00:16:13.889 so that I can. make sure that I am still serving 00:16:13.889 --> 00:16:17.049 the people who need it the most and that I'm 00:16:17.049 --> 00:16:21.370 also true to myself. And it is, you know, more 00:16:21.370 --> 00:16:24.210 difficult at different times, but I've been here 00:16:24.210 --> 00:16:26.070 before this. There's nothing new under the sun. 00:16:26.269 --> 00:16:29.309 You know, we've been here and. We've had to be 00:16:29.309 --> 00:16:32.190 self -sufficient and make a way and create partnerships. 00:16:32.610 --> 00:16:35.649 It may be new to some of the younger folks, especially 00:16:35.649 --> 00:16:38.350 people who graduated college in the last five 00:16:38.350 --> 00:16:40.690 years, and they got used to having open conversations 00:16:40.690 --> 00:16:44.769 about racism and systems. And I remember talking 00:16:44.769 --> 00:16:47.330 about the relationship between racism and health 00:16:47.330 --> 00:16:49.830 was more taboo. Like, you're never going to get 00:16:49.830 --> 00:16:51.470 funded if you say that. You might be able to 00:16:51.470 --> 00:16:53.889 say perceived discrimination in health. Like, 00:16:53.889 --> 00:16:58.299 those, maybe. You know, so I know what that is 00:16:58.299 --> 00:17:00.639 and I know what it was like where even then you 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:04.059 could just have to say experiences, not even 00:17:04.059 --> 00:17:07.119 perceived. So I know the way that we have to 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:12.759 learn from our elders, the folks more senior 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:15.160 than us. How did you do it before so that we 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:17.960 can learn from those mistakes and learn from 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:21.579 their success so that we can move forward? And 00:17:21.579 --> 00:17:25.019 is it even worth fighting for? Right. I got plenty 00:17:25.019 --> 00:17:27.359 of folks leaving academia, not just leaving the 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:29.339 corporate structure, but leaving academia and 00:17:29.339 --> 00:17:31.500 saying, you know what? I can build something 00:17:31.500 --> 00:17:35.299 better on my own. That's okay. Before you fight 00:17:35.299 --> 00:17:37.559 to get back in a system that didn't work for 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:41.259 you, like, is this really what you want? Or is 00:17:41.259 --> 00:17:44.380 it to make sure it's not just your ego? To figure 00:17:44.380 --> 00:17:48.059 out ways to use this as a time to pivot, to reflect, 00:17:48.380 --> 00:17:53.460 to move forward. And also, Think of the long 00:17:53.460 --> 00:17:57.660 term. So the decisions that you make today, you 00:17:57.660 --> 00:18:00.940 have to live with five years from now. You know, 00:18:00.940 --> 00:18:04.380 so those are also the things that you have to 00:18:04.380 --> 00:18:07.500 consider in this moment for your own mental health. 00:18:07.779 --> 00:18:11.599 And sometimes, you know, you have to make decisions 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:13.799 that you're not happy about or you may not even 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:17.740 be proud about. But this is the situation you're 00:18:17.740 --> 00:18:19.900 in. If you know why you're making it and for 00:18:19.900 --> 00:18:23.640 how long. You work it on that. But if you live 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:27.480 in a space of shame, it's going to spiral you. 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:30.299 You are going to spiral into depression and you're 00:18:30.299 --> 00:18:32.220 going to have to, you know, if you know why, 00:18:32.380 --> 00:18:35.920 you know where I'm doing this in order to get 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:38.990 that. I may have to compromise on this, but I'm 00:18:38.990 --> 00:18:42.069 still able to hold on to this other very important. 00:18:42.190 --> 00:18:44.730 Like these are the things that we have to talk 00:18:44.730 --> 00:18:47.990 about more openly so that it's not in secret. 00:18:48.069 --> 00:18:50.970 It's not in shame. And so that we can share our 00:18:50.970 --> 00:18:53.609 resources and figure out, do we just need to 00:18:53.609 --> 00:18:57.509 build something new? Well, I love where you're 00:18:57.509 --> 00:19:00.349 coming from. Go ahead, Farad. No, I was snapping 00:19:00.349 --> 00:19:03.210 fingers. She right. All that stuff is a part 00:19:03.210 --> 00:19:06.390 of, you know. We want to talk about physical 00:19:06.390 --> 00:19:08.549 health, but I think we need to really deal with 00:19:08.549 --> 00:19:13.069 this mental health. It's important because that 00:19:13.069 --> 00:19:15.309 also determines if you can be successful in your 00:19:15.309 --> 00:19:19.269 economic space. It also helps if you're employable. 00:19:20.269 --> 00:19:24.109 Absolutely. If you are friendly enough to run 00:19:24.109 --> 00:19:26.859 a business. Right. So all the characteristics 00:19:26.859 --> 00:19:30.900 of skill sets. Know yourself well enough to know 00:19:30.900 --> 00:19:33.359 that you're not a people person. That means you 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:36.200 need to partner with the people person. Amen. 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:40.579 I don't like networking. I know this about myself. 00:19:40.900 --> 00:19:46.500 I got friends that can work a room. I want to 00:19:46.500 --> 00:19:52.460 go home. So, you know, know who is the appropriate 00:19:52.460 --> 00:19:55.990 partner and don't. Don't expect them to be you. 00:19:56.069 --> 00:19:59.109 Expect them to be them and work on everybody's 00:19:59.109 --> 00:20:05.769 strengths. Amen. So before we leave, we always 00:20:05.769 --> 00:20:09.890 leave on a high note. I want you to tell me something 00:20:09.890 --> 00:20:16.190 new, exciting, innovative that either you're 00:20:16.190 --> 00:20:19.009 working on or that is inspiring you that you 00:20:19.009 --> 00:20:22.069 would like to share with other people. The things 00:20:22.069 --> 00:20:27.730 that make me positive is that here are the thing 00:20:27.730 --> 00:20:30.450 that actually I can't say I can't point to a 00:20:30.450 --> 00:20:32.089 specific project because I'm not going to lie 00:20:32.089 --> 00:20:38.049 to you. But what I can say is that I do have 00:20:38.049 --> 00:20:43.349 a lot of hope. Like my hope is still is still 00:20:43.349 --> 00:20:47.210 there. My hope, my faith. Because I know that 00:20:47.210 --> 00:20:51.309 other people in my own families, in my communities 00:20:51.309 --> 00:20:57.160 have survived much more creative. well thought 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:01.039 out plans than the things that I am facing with 00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:04.440 less resources. And so that's what keeps me going 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:08.160 is that my faith, my hope, and my knowledge that 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:11.440 this is not forever. It may be longer than what 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:14.319 I would like, but that's what keeps me going. 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:19.319 And I try to remind the people I'm around that 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:24.420 they have options. Yeah, I got to tell you, for 00:21:24.420 --> 00:21:28.000 me, it's the thing I'm working on is I've got 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.380 four kids. It's just trying to keep them going. 00:21:30.460 --> 00:21:33.700 Right. I mean, for them to be the next generation. 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:37.039 And I've got parents and I'm truly the sandwich 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:41.119 generation child. And being able to take the 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:45.400 baton from the previous generation and pass it 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:48.200 forward to the next generation with the hope 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:54.670 that they will be able to. face the current condition 00:21:54.670 --> 00:21:58.049 and overcome them, much like the past, right? 00:21:58.150 --> 00:22:01.309 So being mindful that the future is brighter 00:22:01.309 --> 00:22:04.450 than the past and that we're going to have to 00:22:04.450 --> 00:22:08.609 create the new future in teaching skill sets. 00:22:08.890 --> 00:22:11.369 And I'm going to take your comment. It's like 00:22:11.369 --> 00:22:16.430 we were blessed to have trailblazers like Dr. 00:22:17.490 --> 00:22:22.769 Sandy Darity before us. And then we get a chance, 00:22:22.970 --> 00:22:27.670 us three, to be settlers, right? Because they've 00:22:27.670 --> 00:22:31.230 already went through the trees, carved it down, 00:22:31.410 --> 00:22:35.470 put a road. So now we riding on the road like 00:22:35.470 --> 00:22:39.089 it was there, but they went through it. And now 00:22:39.089 --> 00:22:41.130 that we're in an environment where people are 00:22:41.130 --> 00:22:45.109 tearing down what we built as settlers, we're 00:22:45.109 --> 00:22:47.690 going to have to now become, as you say, Keisha, 00:22:47.809 --> 00:22:51.319 turn around to our elders and say, We need to 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:55.480 build the next spaceship because to build the 00:22:55.480 --> 00:23:00.160 next something, right? And your energy, your 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:04.160 entrepreneurialism, your excitement, your fortitude, 00:23:04.259 --> 00:23:08.680 your perseverance that you had, I may not have 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:12.799 had that as conditioned in me as it was in you. 00:23:13.099 --> 00:23:18.160 So I need to take lessons from you so I can take 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:22.099 that. and build it on my ingenuity to be ready 00:23:22.099 --> 00:23:25.339 for the next generations to succeed. So I've 00:23:25.339 --> 00:23:29.579 been spending a lot of my time trying to be inspirational 00:23:29.579 --> 00:23:33.180 to my children and trying to be also very inspirational 00:23:33.180 --> 00:23:37.299 to others, reminding them that I need them to 00:23:37.299 --> 00:23:40.160 be better and not to be discouraged, because 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:43.779 I think that's the devil's greatest tool. It's 00:23:43.779 --> 00:23:45.900 discouragement. People think it's money and jealousy. 00:23:46.140 --> 00:23:48.359 I'm like, nah, it's discouragement. Because once 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:50.339 you're discouraged, all that other stuff happens. 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:53.140 So it's going to be important as a community 00:23:53.140 --> 00:23:56.519 that we become more collective and selfless. 00:23:57.059 --> 00:24:00.819 And our selflessness will also help, I think, 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:04.180 others to want to ally, be allies with us because 00:24:04.180 --> 00:24:07.240 they see that we are building. We're not, you 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:09.339 know, the devil is roaring around like a lion 00:24:09.339 --> 00:24:12.500 trying to devour. We got to make it. Are we going 00:24:12.500 --> 00:24:15.279 to be eaten? Or are we going to say, okay, devil, 00:24:15.299 --> 00:24:19.500 let's go because I'm ready, right? And so I don't 00:24:19.500 --> 00:24:22.019 know. I think right now we need to be preparing 00:24:22.019 --> 00:24:26.519 the next generation to be superheroes because 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:31.500 they're going to have work to do. Yes, deep breath, 00:24:31.819 --> 00:24:36.019 deep breath. And I know that there are several 00:24:36.019 --> 00:24:39.519 questions. that I did not get a chance to ask 00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:44.839 in this conversation. And I'm just hopeful. I'm 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:48.980 just hopeful. Yep, I'll be saying no more questions. 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:56.440 No more questions. But I hope that we have a 00:24:56.440 --> 00:24:59.019 part two for this. And we have talked about Dr. 00:24:59.180 --> 00:25:02.680 Darity. spoken about his work. For those of you 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:06.779 who have not heard of him, Dr. William, aka Sandy 00:25:06.779 --> 00:25:10.200 Darity, is the father of stratification economics. 00:25:10.700 --> 00:25:13.779 We have been talking around it, and I'm looking 00:25:13.779 --> 00:25:17.160 forward to when we can talk. on it, in it, and 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:19.740 through it. But I'm thankful for each of you, 00:25:19.779 --> 00:25:22.720 Farah, Keisha. Thank you, brother and sister, 00:25:22.900 --> 00:25:26.079 for making this another really successful show. 00:25:26.339 --> 00:25:28.740 Tell your families, thank you for allowing me 00:25:28.740 --> 00:25:32.940 to borrow you and that I appreciate them. And 00:25:32.940 --> 00:25:34.799 we're going to keep moving forward advancing 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:38.720 health equity together in our own way. Hallelujah. 00:25:39.339 --> 00:25:39.940 Hallelujah.