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What's your favorite scary movie? Well hello friends. Hey everybody. How you doing?

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It's been a while since we since we last chat. Yeah, but today we're talking about

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a new film. Dun dun dun. In a violent nature. In a violent nature.

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Sound of music. Sound of killing. Sound of walking. So in a violent nature is directed by Chris

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Nash who's most notably known for Z for zygote in the anthology series ABCs of

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Death. He was also the creative or the set creative effects supervisor in

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Psycho Gorman. Oh wow. Yeah so he's got his hands and some fun stuff. That is so

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cool. I did hear that he was a special effects coordinator. Yeah. Or had to do

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with special effects and we can definitely see his influence reflected.

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Absolutely. That's so cool. Love Psycho Gorman. So fun. So good. So in a violent

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nature is when a group of teens takes a locket from a collapsed tower in the

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woods. They unwittingly resurrect the rotting corpse of Johnny. A vengeful

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spirit spurred by a horrific 60 year old crime. The undead killer soon

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embarks on a bloody rampage to retrieve the stolen locket while methodically

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slaughtering anyone who gets in his way. Thank you Google. Yes. Johnny Moore. I mean

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there's nothing more to that plot that's pretty much exactly what happens in this

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film. Yes. Quite quite an interesting and different way that they chose to show it

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though. I think this is one of the most creative angles I've seen taken on a

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horror movie in a very long time. It's something I feel like we have yet to

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discover and it puts kind of a cool twist on something that we have seen

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before. So it definitely makes it interesting and I feel like it kind of

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it felt like a perfect mesh of the burning Friday the 13th and the video

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game had a baby. Nice. And that to me was in a violent nature in all the best ways

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possible. Yes like play the Friday the 13th game as Jason. Definitely definitely

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evokes that feeling for sure. Absolutely and while I think Johnny and Jason do

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share some parallels I think there are two very different ones in their own

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right. Yeah. Yeah. So first thoughts did you like it? Did you hate it? Did you

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wish it was? I know a big thing for people has been they felt it was slow

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right and they felt it was boring. So like initial kind of feelings thoughts

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anything that super stood out to you? I did like it off the bat. I liked it a lot.

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I guess and thinking about it more after part of me almost feels like I was

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disappointed that I didn't get like scared. Yeah. But I wouldn't say that that

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meant it was a bad movie and I don't even know if I would use the word

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disappointed anymore. Okay. I just it's an observation that I didn't exactly feel

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like scared I didn't get the kind of usual scared feeling I expect to get

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from a horror film or at that sometimes I hope for but like this was very

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different and it made me feel a lot of things and maybe not scared in the way

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that I had anticipated but I still thought it was a great film and it's in

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no way detracts from the experience I had watching it. It's just a different

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completely different experience and we'll get into this more but I would say

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tension was yeah super high watching this film especially towards the end as

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it started going on but yeah overall I did really like it and it was different

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and I knew yeah I obviously knew watching it I was like people this is not

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gonna hit some people yeah it's gonna lose it's gonna lose some people. I say I

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agree with pretty much most of what you're saying I I thought the movie was

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really well done I definitely can see where people would decide that this

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movie is not for them but I was not one of those people I thought I genuinely

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don't think I had an expectation going into this movie. We'd heard things that

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it you know obviously it's a POV it's gonna be a lot of following the main

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character around and I'm like okay I'm here for it like I can deal with slow

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and then from that point on I was just kind of like okay like let's see what

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this is all about like let's just be in for the ride. You know what I think that

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expectation I had going in of like the kind of scared feeling just literally

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just comes from how preconditioned I am with slasher and the typical

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jump scares and sound cues and kind of effects yeah you get watching a slasher

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because I knew it was you know a slasher so I think that was just like passively

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my mind that's kind of what I was expecting and I think you hold some

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truth to that though because the way that this movie plays out is formulaic

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in that sense it is very much a trope of a traditional slasher film so I think

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while we're sitting there and the plot is kind of unveiling itself to us we're

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like okay when is that moment gonna happen like we're staring off into the

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tree something's gonna pop out in the foreground and it doesn't happen and it

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just kind of you like cling on to that like anxiety that's just sitting there

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and then it just cuts to a different shot and you're kind of left there and

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you're like oh okay so yeah there was a lot of those moments but I don't think

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it was necessarily a bad thing just again was it exactly what either of us

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were expecting which is what made it so unique and I think so cool and just

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talking about how it was formulaic with slashers that was one of the so it

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follows a lot of the tropes of slasher films but at the same time it like

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averts them and kind of turns them upside down I would I'm trying to think

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of like moments that kind of show that I know Adam and I were talking and the

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idea of less is more in in horror and slasher films specifically like not

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revealing the killer and to like the right moment to get that scare but we're

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with them the entire time yeah it's just what it what an interesting like

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experience for a viewer to have I agree and I kind of like that it has so many

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themes that kind of juxtapose each other in that sense because I know we say this

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often but I feel like some of these movies that have come out lately are

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such a love letter to the genre because it does have those super predictable

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moments but it almost feels like fanfare in a way where as horror fans we know to

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expect it and then we can just sit there and have fun with it right like for

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instance I know we were all talking about this after we saw it but like the

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dumb cop situation at the end you know like none of the cops are smart in horror

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movies and like we know to expect the cop to either a say something stupid like

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get everyone killed get himself killed and we're just kind of waiting and

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anticipating for that moment and seeing how it's gonna play out and if we're

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gonna get a laugh out of it or so moments like that I think made the movie

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more fun because we kind of had an expectation but we still were like where

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are they specifically going to go with this right and oh yeah and it's almost

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extra fun to kind of view it in the killer's eyes I'm like look at this

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fucking show I'm just walking up to you and you're just dying right now what

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have you been doing and I I think that that aspect of it where you're in his

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point of view is is just it's not only interesting but the way that they kind

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of portrayed it I think sets it more in a video game kind of sense in my mind

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mm-hmm where it feels like we're we're playing this like quest game we're like

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what's gonna happen next we met these characters like it kept reminding me of

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the quarry yeah and or as I was playing it as I was watching it and after

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thinking about it and looking back I think one of the reasons why I was so

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easily like this is a video game is the way that the camera was sitting and the

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way that it was poised so to have it sit behind the main character to the side

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and you're following him around is as if you were sitting at your TV playing a

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video game the characters always like right in front of you kind of leading

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the way and leading the path and matched with the sound design yeah is what I

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really wanted to get into next well oh just first to go off on the video game

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okay yeah pause pause just uh I mean just furthermore you know when he'd be

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watching like two characters talking in the distance you see one of them go off

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then the other ones stay there like at the dock yeah so then he's kind of like

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which path do you take which one do you want to kill yeah a B boom for that one

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first yeah yeah no that's really I didn't see that

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mention it I'm like that totally is and another cool thing about sound is I

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think having no score and only having very few moments of like diegetic music

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playing because like yeah characters are listening to music yeah really played

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off of that like video game kind of aspect and one of the moments where it

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was so clear is just Johnny walking around and listening to his footsteps

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yeah each crunch his shoe left like over the dead leaves or the twigs or sounded

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so different and so robust and so clear it literally felt like you were walking

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through a video game right like it was so impressive yeah and I just want to

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shout out the sound design people because I think they deserve a shout

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out so the Foley recordist and designer is Tim Atkins and the Foley artist and

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designer is Michelle I do not want to butcher her last name it's HWU nice both

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great fantastic yeah yeah the sound design yeah which is also like before

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we even watched this you had kind of heard that people were calling it ASMR

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horror which is so fitting yeah and that immediately caught our attention yeah

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like what is that I want to know what that is about like like is it gonna be

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disgusting yeah it does definitely it does play in on that there's there's one

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specific part in mind for me that they really just I mean it's pretty obvious

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but drive it in drill it into your brain and it like sticks with you but yeah

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sound amazing impeccable very very effective I agree respect your sound

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people guys it is so so important for a film it makes or breaks especially a

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horror film give them the credit they fucking deserve yeah Adam just another

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kind of area that I feel like intensified this whole video game feel and

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intensified the sound design was the aspect ratio in which it was filmed I

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think the four three just kind of forces you to be up close and center with

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what's going on in the film and it doesn't distract by that wide shot and

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stuff going in in the back stuff going on in the background you're just kind of

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zoomed in on Johnny and like what he's gonna do next so I think that definitely

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helped absolutely yeah so I just want to read this review on letterbox that I

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thought was pretty well said and I agree with so this one was written by cinema

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Joe and so he says reinventing the slasher genre is a nearly impossible

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task and while I don't declare or I won't declare in a violent nature does

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this it gets pretty damn close a movie that reverse engineers the jump-scare

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and forces you to sit with the dread of the inevitable a conversation is heard

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in the distance and we are forced to follow every step of Johnny's hunt and

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it is endlessly harrowing its pacing will be why people look away and pull their

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phone out but I beg that you don't it's as close it's as close as to watching a

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wild animal hunt its prey as a film can get in like the bear that catches its

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prey the results are relentlessly gruesome I really like that review I

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like what he said about reversing the jump-scare yes because that is exactly

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what that does exactly yeah yeah cuz you know in a typical slasher film really

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kind of relies on a lot of the jump scares and it builds up so much tension

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you don't know where it's coming from necessarily maybe I mean as time went on

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we knew to expect it like we were saying before but you know this one we're with

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him the whole time yet it there's still moments I would say particularly at the

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end when it's like the two final yeah characters where he's still kind of like

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surprises you yeah like you're within the whole time but he still has such

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veracity that like it's still kind of gets you excited and heightened oh you

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know yeah so that was really well done that you can still get that effect with

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completely stripping the movie down from the usual style or formulas yeah yeah

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and structure very impressive I think to play off of that to the fact that

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there's no moment where we're poised on anticipation of the reveal of like who

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the killer is like we're smacked out with him the whole damn time yes and so

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that anticipation never quite happens when you're you're watching him

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interact with the people his victims essentially it's just kind of like well

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what is he gonna do to them as opposed to who's gonna pop out right yeah right

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and which is an interesting dynamic oh yeah and like he said a wild animal

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hunting yeah it's like super accurate I know Adam and I were talking about this

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did a great job of showing that unkillable killer or like almost entity

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that's you know obviously superhuman I know they make that kind of obvious in

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this yeah just with this particular perspective and structure of the film

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I think it did like even a better job than like some of the newer you know

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like in the newer Halloween's how they're kind of trying to drive that

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point home of how like Michael Myers is this like you know something that's not

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even human but like this one showed that in such a feral way yeah so like I'm

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curious to know what was the point in the film where like you realize that okay

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there's something more to him like obviously this is like he's not he's got

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some sort of supernatural element to him but I think the point in the film where

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it was really driven home for me was when he was walking to get the girl on

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the lake yeah you literally I remember talking to you guys about it afterwards

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and I was like did he just walk the bottom of the lake bed yeah because it

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did not look like this man swam through the water and I was like okay here we go

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like he's got more to him than just like your typical what you would think of

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like and not to compare the two but like Ghostface or anything like that you know

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like he's maybe not the easiest to kill right right yes touching on the lake

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scene in particular this is from another review on letterbox by Josh Lewis that I

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think he brings up an interesting point he says but even more impressive to me

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were its moments that resisted typical genre film enjoyment and just became

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kind of amusingly unpleasant and pathetic like a lake drowning sequence

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that not only has no thrilling cutaways to the victims experience or or

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dramatic score but doesn't even have a gore gag punctuation and is simply

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filmed in a long shot of Johnny slowly sinking beneath the surface and then a

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body 50 feet away being pulled under or another where Johnny's overhearing the

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climactic dialogue where the kids are figuring out their plan to kill to kill

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him that obviously isn't going to work followed by the obligatory shock gore gag

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that bleeds into the realm of an uneasy rhythmic droning as it continues to go

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on so first to like look at the lake scene that was one of the points where

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it almost felt initially underwhelming because you're used to seeing like you

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would expect to see the kill more intimately I guess more closely or

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fucked up but you know you don't see anything happening her body just kind of

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floats up it's not like dramatic necessarily but I mean it's it's really

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sticking true to just following him it's it's realistic and it still shows

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that what the fuck he just walked yeah the lake bed over to this to this girl

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and yeah under I remember sitting there thinking wait that's it

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yeah we just saw like a couple bubbles like surface and then it was just and I

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think the way that the camera just clung to that as well like it lingered there

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for so long we were like okay the camera's sitting here for a while like

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what's gonna happen right and then yes nothing did and it was kind of like oh

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okay yeah like it's interesting that yeah they didn't show I think maybe it's

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just because of this perspective they're taking on that the cameras like I don't

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know not gonna go under the water yeah with him I don't know which would have

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been very weird yeah yeah yeah that would be weird so because it's interesting

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it shows so much for certain kills but not so much for this one but maybe it's

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just particularly what would make this perspective most effective yes and like

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stick true to it and I think it's a little bit of just build up of the film

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in general right it's one of the first moments that we see Johnny in action and

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so it's a little kind of leading your way into some of the bigger stuff true

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yeah simple yes simple as that maybe but um but it's kind of fun to speculate

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yeah I don't want to I want to save this kill because he talks about the two

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characters yeah it's kind of a comedic moment which I kind of like that they

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kept some it almost campiness or corniness yeah from the slasher genre in

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this but in such a different way I feel like without saying too much about it

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quite yet like I don't know how effective it would have been if it was

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if it didn't lean into the B like the B rated feel and if it was just super

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realistic like right I just I don't know I don't know I just don't think it would

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have been nearly as effective and in this sense it felt very again I keep

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going back to this theme but it felt very video game like it felt very this

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specific kill felt very Mortal Kombat like kind of situation yeah that is

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interesting yeah it's kind of interesting to think about a lot of

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stuff that and how they did it in this film from this perspective I'm saying

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that word a lot um would not be effective in a traditional format or

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traditional style yeah of horror speaking on that just since we're

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talking about kind of the kills and the special effects and the gore and we're

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talking about the style of this film so I read an interesting article from the

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AV club calm and it was an interview with Stephen Kostanski who is the

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special effects artist and in this interview Stephen said he referring to

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Chris Nash told me once he re-edited I believe Friday the 13th part 5 and took

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all the Jason stuff out or the fake Jason stuff so it's essentially just

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becoming a like a character study of all these weirdos he always comes up with

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this stuff in like very unique ways which I think is very telling because

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Stephen and Chris Nash have worked on multiple projects together and I think

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right there is very telling of you know his unique style and how he wanted to

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interpret this movie and then how I would even say the kills and the gore

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are very unique in their own way even though it is all blanketed under the

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genre of horror yeah yeah no definitely I mean going off that did you have a

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favorite kill I should get into yeah I think it might be I mean it's it's the

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yoga kill yeah sorry it's so batshit it was great yeah yeah it's it's crazy

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there's so many slashers or just like kills and horror movies and could still

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be surprised yeah I just I think while I was sitting there I was just like where

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is this going and then every time I thought it was like done yeah it just

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kept going yeah and it was it was pure insanity do you want to do you want to

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tell everyone what the scene is okay yes maybe is so should be detailed yeah do

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it okay okay so Johnny boy is a so it's been a while since we've seen this

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movie we've only seen it once but from what like Krissa and I and Adam recall

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yeah okay this is how this scene unfolds Johnny walks up to this girl doing yoga

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on the cliffside overlooking the cliff and she sees him screams tries to run

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away comes to the edge of the cliff can't go down there and then he walks

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right up behind her punches through her back through her stomach out the front

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her organs and shit all spilling out blood coming out of her mouth he turns

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her around takes his logging hook sticks it right in the top of her skull

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and then he basically pulls the chain or whatever that's linked to the logging

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hook down and through the hole in her body and like basically keeps pulling it

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until it like breaks her neck breaks her neck forward and pulls her whole head

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through the gigantic gaping hole in her stomach and out the other side so she's

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literally turned her into a pretzel yeah yeah like the most advanced yoga position

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I've ever seen I'm just kidding this is this is why I said it felt very mortal

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combat yeah like it just felt like oh yeah like absolutely yeah that one was

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was great I think everyone in the theater let out a little something like

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oh shit we're oh shitting they were giggling yeah like people were just

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kind of like what is happening it's just one of probably the most memorable kill

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yeah I've seen in a long time very long time um easily it's gonna be iconic for

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a while yeah forever and then can we talk about again going back to sound how

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there's no score right so you're sis and nobody's talking nobody's screaming

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mm-hmm so you're just sitting there listening to the sounds that Johnny is

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inflicting on to poor yoga girl yeah and it yeah you're forced to sit there with

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it so you really get the like strength and just furious yeah nearly like a wild

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animal absolutely yeah absolutely but a creative wild animal just an artist again

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going back to this theme of the juxtaposition so we go from the lake

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scene where we saw nothing this is right after to the yoga scene where we see

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everything and more yeah he also kicks her body her fucked up body down the

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cliffside and you just see this super like far shot of it just rolling down

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it's like an insult to injury yeah it's one of those kills that harm horror

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movie lovers just like get so excited over because it's it makes you laugh but

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in a way it is just like wow this is just crazy and incredible I think I

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audibly went oh like throughout the entire scene yeah it was my my jaw

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dropped yeah the whole time I was just like stunned yeah it's like witnessing

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a train wreck in the most morbid way like you want to turn your face but you can't

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yeah yeah it was pretty impressive you know and man that FX makeup yeah yeah

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just chef's kiss yeah I mean when the the body like that one guy the kind of

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funny guy with the headphones at the beginning I think it's the first victim

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second oh yeah that one fucking dude okay yeah second victim sorry but you

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know and yeah and he's carrying around his like body and stuff but just like

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the expression on my face and everything and the way that he just fucking throws it around

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yeah anyway go watch it yes definitely I mean my second favorite kill is the

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last one was it the woodchipper not the woodchipper the log splitter no it's

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where's the two final the two final oh yeah I just I want to go over this one

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because I did love that moment this moment made me very happy because it's

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just the play on the tropes again and like so we're down to our last two teens

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our last two survivors and it's a guy and a girl that are kind of like having

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a little affair so Johnny's following them it's dark in the woods and you hear

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them so they go to hide you hear them whispering and loud-ass fucking

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whispering because it's always funny when you think of a typical slasher when

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they start whispering in the quiet woods yeah you shouldn't fucking do that you

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know he's gonna pop up right behind you or whatever

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whispering is loud in a fucking quiet place where no one else is talking you

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gotta hear it and so the cameras just on Johnny yeah you don't see them because

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they're hiding but you hear them and it's loud they like purposefully make

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their whispers super loud and so they basically lay out what they're gonna do

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like I'm gonna distract him you go you know this way blah blah blah and so and

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so the male the male serp team jumps out behind Johnny to distract him he's like

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hey blah blah blah and like before he could even finish his sentence Johnny

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just whips around axe yeah big-ass axe right into his face just like gashed

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basically splits his head open and against the tree or I don't know I think

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it was against the tree but it like it was so fast and you know when we're used

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to following him and his slow trod that I think these moments really like

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surprise you but specifically this one the moment was so perfect because it's

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just like it sounded all momentous like we're gonna this is how we're gonna get

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out these are the last two and he's just like nope and it made me laugh like I

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audibly was just like but then he just goes ham on this guy like it was just

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this point where they really show him as like this feral yeah fucking and then

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the final girl which yeah again another trope that they have she's just watching

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this go down because she's supposed to be like having her chance to escape

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right now but she's so stunned at how fast it just did not go their way or you

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know and he's just whacking away hacking away till this dude is just nothing but

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a bloody pulp on the ground and you can't even really see his body at that

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point but all you need to see is like yeah Johnny's emotion of he's just like

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over and over in the sound so good here specifically yeah because it just really

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drives it into your brain hammers it hacks it into your brain literally um

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but what I like about that part too is that it's interesting they switch

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perspectives at that point they switch it over to the final girls and we're

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following her for like a good amount of the rest of the film yeah I think it

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carries on over to the very last second and that's where we have moments where I

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feel the most like tense yeah like the suspense has built up so far because

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we're so used to seeing where Johnny is and like following him and now we don't

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know where he is and we're just following the final girls but I think

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that was done purposefully yeah I know a lot of people have said that they did

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not like the ending and that the ending was pointless and it was boring and they

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wanted something happened and nothing happened but I think that switch in

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perspectives was done so purposefully because now we're not in Johnny's point

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of view anymore so we're not just like kind of following along with him in his

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journey like kind of knowing what to expect what's gonna happen we're now in

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the final girls where she doesn't know what's gonna happen and she's kind of

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tense and we're kind of tense because we're anticipating it the way she's

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supposed to be anticipating it so now we're truly in her shoes in her point of

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view yeah I'm like why not you know like why does a movie have to be one thing

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why can't it change absolutely you know I think it definitely made me super

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anxious yeah like made the stakes feel higher oh absolutely you know because and

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we were like getting frustrated at the woman in the car we're like what are you

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doing like stop it and it just totally puts you like it switched gears so

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suddenly he didn't like I didn't even realize how much I was like first I was

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rooting for Johnny to fuck up all these scenes and now I'm hoping for this girl

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like come on yeah yeah so it's it's kind of interesting how there's that like

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that duality there yeah like within one film right and I think it reminds you of

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like how nothing is safe yeah in these movies you know absolutely because

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there are moments where that that lady was helping her is like oh she like

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roll you to do in in on it somehow or what's gonna happen but like the sound

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as she's she's running stumbling through the woods too they take the hacking the

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repetitive hacking yeah and they like incorporate it into the sound design

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where it's just this droning hum that she's like hearing so it's it's also

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still her perspective yeah she's so traumatized just having witnessed that

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yeah that it's just playing over and over in her head and also Adam made a

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good note of like it kind of sounds like his footsteps to following her it's a

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little bit like you're being thrown into the mind of somebody who's still in

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shock but also simultaneously dealing with like PTSD of the situation so she's

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like you're you're just smack dab in the middle of that fear yeah yeah I thought

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it was super effective I liked it I honestly don't have any excuse me I

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don't have any complaints yeah I do want to ask do you have a favorite scene in

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the movie whether it's a kill whether it's a moment whether it's a shot

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whether it's an edit just like a favorite point I wanna watch it yeah

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please my favorite point in this movie where I think it just kind of set the

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tone for me is when the teens are sitting around the campfire and the

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camera is just circling them yes I get like with what you said about Johnny

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being this like hunter going after his prey very animalistic that's what it

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felt like it felt like wolves like circling a group of people it felt like

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we weren't supposed to specifically focus on the people in the frame but

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listen to what they were saying and I kept looking out into the distance

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being like is he gonna pop out like where is he coming from and the more

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that the camera just spun around them the more that anticipation and anxiety

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just built and built and built and I just thought that was so brilliantly

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brilliantly executed like it was I master class I just it was great I think

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hearing your thoughts on that and me remembering it now yes I will have to

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agree with you I think that is yeah definitely the point where it did set

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the tone yeah I did like how they would show him barely because it's super dim

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lighting you would see him very like faintly in the back just watching

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yeah like who's gonna fuck up and you know when they take the picture the like

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the picture of the group all together you know he's gonna be in it yeah but in

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you know in a typical movie they would they would probably show them looking

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through the picture and being like what's yeah you know but they you don't

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you don't have that moment which I think is like it's different and I feel like it

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feels more it's just not it doesn't yeah not typical and cheesy but they do

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mention that like who's that guy in the picture so it's like it gives you enough

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to get yes you know the idea or whatever I also love the dialogue okay between the

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teens because I feel like they they keep the corniness like it's cheesy dialogue

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and part of you is like who talks like that but also it's kind of funny and

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entertaining I think and they keep it modern too yeah yeah absolutely I think

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that was another point that I was reading in reviews that people disliked

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was that they thought that the dialogue was just stupid I guess slash which have

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stupid dialogue yeah they have ridiculous dialogue because you're not

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supposed to care about the characters like at least in movies at like when

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slasher movies were super super popularized like you're not going to the

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movie to see these characters like yeah it was a plus when you had a final girl

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but you were going to see like the Jasons or the Michaels just slaughter

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everyone in the movie and I think people look back at those the older slashers

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and find the dialogue kitschy yeah you know where they think it's cool but like

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if you really listen it's fucking like it's I feel like it's the same effect

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but honestly if you think about it like as teenagers we were dumb we were

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talking about dumb yeah like yeah and have dialogue of substance yeah yeah

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very interesting I'd like to turn it to Adam hello your thoughts or like

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favorite scenes yeah lasting impressions no I liked it a lot I think that it's

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interesting because I feel like one scene I really liked is like when they

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show Johnny's face you know he like takes off the mask and he's like looking at

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the firetruck and stuff it's interesting because like I really didn't expect that

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at all it like most of the movie is like it's very indifferent like I feel like

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that's like really the tone of the film is indifferent like most scary movies

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most horror films are like they tell you how to feel it's like this is bad this is

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scary they're in danger and then you see like the jump scares and you can like

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get a sense of it but this one it's like it's he's killing but it's it is like

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watching like yeah from a trail camera or something where it doesn't feel a

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particular way about it it just shows you exactly what's happening and I think

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that was like the one moment in the film where it's like you get a sense that

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there's like some sort of life in him and then it just jumps back into like

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he's this force of nature and yeah I like that a lot but I like that it's I

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feel like it's interesting because like Christine you said that people said like

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the dialogue was kind of corny and stuff and I had seen another review like that

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where they said it was most of the film takes itself too seriously and then

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there's corny dialogue which plays against it but I fully disagree with that

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like I feel like the film knows what it is like the yoga like I feel like at

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most slashers they'll have like a sense of it's like a sense of humor where some

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of the joke or some of the kills are punchlines to what a character is and

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you see that very clearly with like the yoga thing it's like she's contorting so

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much like because she's a yoga character and like yeah with the last kill with

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the boyfriend it's like so anticlimactic like you could basically even say like

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the punchline is he's like killed he's like it's splitting down his head

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basically where it's like he's in over his head in a plan that doesn't work you

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know but like yeah I think it fits so perfectly because like it takes those

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tropes and it just makes it it's like you're indifferent about it but I think

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some people might have needed like the score to like lead them along to make

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them feel like comfortable with what was happening yeah but I like that it doesn't

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very well said yes no I feel like that's very true that I think people are just

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very used and conditioned to like yeah movies telling them how to feel you know

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yeah so when they see something that definitely diverts from that you don't

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get that they don't know how to feel and so they feel like maybe some people

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just get the sense that like oh they didn't do anything with it they didn't

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follow through with something and I just didn't take it that way I think it was

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still effective and you know it's okay

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it's still super entertaining and cool perspective yeah I'd like to see how else

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we can play with this form I'm really curious if this is going to kind of

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kickstart the slasher genre in any direction not necessarily to have like a

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whole bunch of different movies be in my POV but just like yeah the creativeness

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of kind of doing something different with our slasher you can do something

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just out of the box and like not follow the same stuff or at least just play

456
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with it yeah yeah overall I really enjoyed this movie I like it

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yeah yeah I did like it I gotta do a second watch soon did you watch it a

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second time I haven't not yet but I definitely want to nice yeah yeah guys

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it should be streaming on shutter I believe yes soon already believe this

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episode will be released July the first Wednesday of July so it's probably gonna

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be out remember guys catch us the first Wednesday of every month yeah

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so hey I noticed this box of bear traps is it's empty yeah am I good to take

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take a piss in the woods right now or yeah man go for it I mean you got you

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gotta go when you gotta go all right I guess I'm gonna go but yeah I'll be

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right back well he's done for sayonara