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Well, hello, Bethy Boo. How's your weekend? It was good. How was yours? Hey, I went shopping

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this weekend and I found a really cool book that I'm going to be looking into. It was from The

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Salvage, but it might be one of our upcoming. But how about you? Have you done anything neat in the

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last couple days? Well, I did order a book and it comes out May 3rd. Oh, are you one of these people

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that likes to have a physical book in front of you or are you into the digital? I'm into a regular

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book where you can flip the pages, hold the book open and read. Oh, that's nice. I have a couple of

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those on my bedside table, but I think they're collecting dust. So I actually picked up a handful

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of books at the bookstore a couple of weeks ago and then I found the same ones on my Kindle. So

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they were the same price and I thought, okay, I don't want anybody walking in my house and seeing

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this collecting pile of books on crime. So I took them all back. Oh, I have books all over in my

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stamp room tucked away. I love books a lot and I have a hard time saying no when somebody says,

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would you like to have my books? But now I'm done. I have to start reading what I have. Yeah. I

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remember back in the day where at the elementary school that we went to, there was a, our librarian

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used to keep just an old stash of books. And I'm sure that they were books that were in the

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classroom at one point for reading, but they were probably taken off of circulation. But she always

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had this little stash of books that was kept in the custodian's closet. And I would go in there

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and say, Hey, I needed, I need a new book to read. And she'd take me straight to the closet

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and give me a book and tell me to come back when I was ready for another one. So I was constantly

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looking for books. I love reading. Reading is good for the soul. It is. I do love how it just takes

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you into a completely different world. Me too. Yeah. So anything else you want to talk about

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before we get started? No, not today. Okay. We're going to talk about Crystal Theobald. And this is

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a story about a situation where she was caught in the middle between, Oh goodness. Well, let me just

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get into it and I'll, I'll try to tell you now, Crystal Theobald was born in 1982 in Riverside,

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California. She grew up with a single mother and her mom's name is Belinda Lane, who is going to

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play a huge part in this story. Crystal lived with her mother and two brothers, Robbie and Justin,

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plus a cousin named Jamie. So it was a, just a single household with several kids there. And

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just a little backstory on Crystal. She was married and her husband relapsed back into drug use and

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violence. So Crystal ended up leaving him and moving back in with her mother and her brothers.

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So, you know, she was back in the old neighborhood and she also had two younger children when she

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was killed. I did see a photo online with her and her estranged husband, along with one boy

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and one girl. So I'm going to assume that she has a boy and a girl that she left behind because,

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spoiler alert, she was killed in this situation. And in Riverside, California, there is a gang

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called 5150 Gang. And some believe that the name 5150 refers to the police code for, quote,

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unhinged people who are a threat to society or themselves. So, unquote. Now, as some other

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reports come up, 5150 is somewhat like a code that refers to someone who is willing to put their

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life on the line. And other reports say that the code allows an adult who is experiencing a mental

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health crisis to be involuntarily detained for a 72-hour psych evaluation if they are considered

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to be in danger to themselves or someone else. So that's kind of where the name of this gang came

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from. And I will say this, I used to work at a hospital system. So sometimes when the security

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people came through, they would tell me they were going up to meet at a 1013. That did mean that a

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mentally unstable person was being admitted to the ER. Now, the gang is often referred to as the 5150

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Mexican royalty, which is based out of Riverside, California. And it's located east of Los Angeles.

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So if you're looking at the map, I believe Orange County is the huge county where Los Angeles is.

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And if you look to the east, then you will see the outskirts, the metro area, which is Riverside.

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And then somewhere around 2003, the 5150 gang merged with another gang and became known as the

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5150 Mexican royalty. Riverside is considered to be the area where people live because they simply

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could not afford to live in Los Angeles. And one former 5150 gang member who was interviewed,

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explained that gang members were pretty much just family and they liked to hang out with each other.

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And most of the gang members were under the age of 18. So they were just a group of people in the

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neighborhood looking out for each other and never really expected to be considered as killers later

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on in society. So there's a little history on the 5150 gang. Now, the night of the shooting,

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Crystal was killed in a case of mistaken identity by 5150 gang members on February 24th, 2006,

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when she was 24 years old. And the 5150 gang had heard that a rival gang had shot at their members

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earlier in the day. So they were pretty much just out that night seeking revenge. And one of the

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gang members mistook the car that Crystal, her boyfriend, Juan Patlin, and her brother,

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Justin were in as one of the rival gang members cars. At 8.43 PM, Crystal was riding a car along

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with her boyfriend and brother when she was gunned down by the rival gang member. It was all because

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of a turf war. So you've got two rival gangs in the same area, basically in the middle of a turf war,

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where multiple gangs claim the same territory. And in this case, in the Riverside area, you had

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blacks, whites, Hispanics, and all the 5150 gangs were claiming the same neighborhoods, which led to

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a lot of violence and confrontations. We have gangs in Toronto, and I was told from a friend

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that she took in this basketball player for a couple of months just to get him away from the

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gang life. So I thought that was very nice of her. Now he's back settled up there and he's back with

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the gangs, but it did give them a little bit of reprieve away from all the violence.

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Now, what do you know about trying to leave a gang though?

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I don't think you can.

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Exactly. So how could, I mean, so he's back into the gang life. But from my understanding,

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if you ever try to leave the gang, that's when you could be in a lot of trouble.

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I believe that the gang from the Toronto area went to her house trying to get that person to

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go back to Toronto. So to save the family from any grief, that particular young man went back

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up to Toronto. Oh my goodness. Have you heard anything more about how he's doing today?

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There's a couple of people in this story that were interviewed and they were former gang members,

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but all I know is that when you do try to leave, then it's not always a good outcome.

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Well, in this case, a 17 year old gang member named Julio Heredia, also known as little Huero,

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shot Crystal in the back of the head at close range while her boyfriend, Juan, was also shot

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in this incident in his midsection. While Juan survived his gunshot wounds, Crystal was unfortunate

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and did not survive hers. She died two days later at the hospital and her brother, Justin,

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came out of this incident completely unharmed. Crystal's mother, Belinda, happened to be following

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the car. Now there are a couple of incidents where I saw that she was one car ahead of them

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or one car behind, but either way, she was literally in the same vicinity. They were in

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two separate cars following one another. Belinda witnessed the entire ordeal. What happened as they

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drove up the street, Belinda saw someone standing at a stop sign and up ahead, a white Ford Expedition

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made a U-turn just past the intersection and began speeding back towards the two cars.

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So, you know, you've got these two vehicles that are having a turf war and they are creating

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havoc in the streets with two vehicles coming at one another. As one of the vehicles came to a stop

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in front of them, the person standing at the stop sign moved within a foot of Crystal's car and fired

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four shots into the vehicle. One at Crystal's head at point blank range while another one at Juan,

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and they ended up hitting his midsection, like I said, plus two more shots and fortunately

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Crystal's brother was not hit. Now Belinda told police that the shooter was a light-skinned

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Hispanic man with a baby face. And I had mentioned earlier, a lot of the 5150 gang members were under

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the age of 18. Police canvassed the area and no one seemed to see anything. I could imagine living

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to Beth in that situation or in that area. You're not going to want to say too much as well, especially

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if you know there is gang activity. That's true. Yeah, that's unfortunate because as I said, the

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gang members that were interviewed did say that this is just an area where people live that simply

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didn't have money. So it was a poor area and you just do the best you can in that situation.

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At one point, Justin was interviewed and they ended up interrogating him for hours because

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from my understanding, he was not part of the gang, but he may or may not have had questionable

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activities going on as well. So he does have some things on his rap sheet that I'm sure that the

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police probably followed up with. So they did interrogate him, but obviously cleared him of

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no wrongdoing here. A sketch artist drew a composite while police showed Belinda several yearbook

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photos because Belinda was an eyewitness to this whole situation of the shots being fired on her

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daughter's car. And the police knew that there were some young people that could be suspect.

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I mean, what they did is they just basically went to the high school and got all their yearbooks

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and started flipping through them like a mugshot, right? I mean, the yearbook photos themselves were

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not mugshots, but you could certainly use those to your advantage. Great idea to pull out that

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yearbook. Oh, absolutely. So Belinda identified one of the photos in the yearbook and of course,

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police ended up bringing that young lad in for questioning. But what happened is this kid that

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Belinda identified as the shooter was interrogated, but he had a pretty solid alibi. I think he said

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he was at home with his family or he had a lot of people around him. So what happened is because

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Belinda falsely identified somebody in this situation, she actually lost credibility as an

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eyewitness and it really kind of messed the case up a little bit. So they couldn't really trust.

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I'm sure it was not her fault. She's a grieving mother and she's just trying to look through this

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book and she's got hundreds of pictures. Well, she comes across somebody that she believes was

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probably involved and through no fault of her own, she's going to identify this person. But

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because she misidentified them, then she couldn't go into the courtroom and be a credible witness

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at this point. That's too bad. Belinda was just a grieving mother and she wanted to help out the

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case and now she lost her credibility as an eyewitness. Well, four minutes after the shooting,

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Justin drove to a grocery store and got Crystal out of the car and called 911. Neither Crystal,

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her brother or boyfriend were considered to be linked to any gang activity during this involvement.

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So it's not entirely clear as to why the 5150 gang members targeted this vehicle. But as we go on in

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this story, it's all going to come together. What happened later is that after the shooting,

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Crystal's mother began her own investigation on MySpace. She created fake social media accounts

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and began conversations with gang members. That's pretty bold. We talked about MySpace, Beth. I did

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actually go look for your MySpace and I couldn't find it. So not giving up yet. Yeah, I remember

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having MySpace. Did you bling it up? I did. I will continue on the search and boy, I will let you

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know when I find it. Okay. It'd be interesting to read now. Wouldn't it? I know 2006 till 2022.

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Okay. So MySpace still around? No, no, it's defunct and I don't know why because like I said,

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I really enjoyed it. And back in the day, there was like 66 million users at the time. Wow. Well,

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do you remember me telling you about Crystal's cousin, Jamie? Yes. Jamie was living with them

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and she was 14 years old at the time. So she was talking to Crystal's brother, Nick, who said that

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the members of the 5150 gang, they were all on MySpace because who wasn't 66 million people? Well,

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Jamie offered to help set up two fake MySpace accounts while posing as Crystal. And just like

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the average teenager, I'm thinking even today, she was pretty well-versed. I mean, you know how

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teenagers are with their social media. Yes. They're the experts in the field right now. Well,

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she was the average teenager and she decided to create her own social media sites and opened one

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up under the name of Rebecca. She went online and found a random girl that was just a stock photo.

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She took that photo and put it up as herself. Do you know what catfishing is? Yes. So she's really,

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truly one of the first catfish. She built Rebecca's profile to cater to whatever she thought the gang

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members would like. Now remember the 5150 gang out of Riverside, California, most of their members

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are under the age of 18. She was probably in the same mindset as these guys. Yeah, she would be with

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being the same age. I can't believe that there's actual gangs where they're under 15 years old.

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That's true. That's when parents are at work. And then what do the kids do when they come home from

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school? Like I said, Rebecca began to start posting things on what she thought that the 5150 gang

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members would get into or so she could get into that social circle. And Rebecca, the catfish,

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had around 150 friends. I do not even have that many friends on my Facebook now. Probably a good

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idea. Yeah, I'm real selective on my Facebook. Well, Jamie continued to catfish 5150 members

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while earning their trust. And she also created a second MySpace account using Crystal's photo

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and named this account under the name of Angel as her profile name. It's a beautiful picture

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of Crystal. If you've never seen what she looks like, I highly recommend that you go look up Crystal

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Theobald. Now Belinda asked Jamie to write on Angel's profile, quote, I am going to be your

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biggest life mistake and your deepest, darkest, best kept secret, unquote. Jamie toggled between

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Rebecca's and Angel's profiles to monitor activities, communications with the 5150 gang

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members. And she made it very specific that Rebecca was pretty much the naughty girl and Angel was,

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well, the angel. So you've got one angel sitting on one shoulder and you've got a little devil on

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the other one. So I'm imagining that Rebecca was quite flirtatious and just into all the party

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scenes while Angel was just the sweet little thing that everybody liked. As the police investigation

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continued, they began to focus on those two white Ford Expedition that were there the night that

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Crystal was shot. And word on the street was that the 5150 gang members like to play cat and mouse

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around the neighborhood. So what they would do is they would see each other in the streets and

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basically just chase each other around in their vehicles. And I'm sure you've seen enough movies

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to know what I mean. Yes. Well, Belinda's other son, Robbie, was witnessed as being part of this

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game from time to time. And so this is where the police were thinking, Hmm, are any of Crystal's

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relatives involved? Because Robbie was known to be in vehicles being chased. So police asked Belinda

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about it. And as it turned out, Belinda withheld a little bit of information from the police because

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she knew that her son, Robbie, was getting involved in these cat and mouse chases. And they did occur

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well before the night that Crystal was shot. So I could see why the police may have started to

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question if Crystal's brothers may have been involved. So did Belinda know that this was

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gang related, the cat and mouse? I don't think so. And the only reason I say that is because

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think about back when we were teenagers or young adults, I mean, how much did we really tell our

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parents? You were the bad one. What? What do you mean? Sneaking into the house late at night in the

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middle of the night. I don't remember that. I, Oh yeah. Mom was waiting in the bedroom. You had the

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bedroom downstairs. I was 19 years old. Still under mom's roof with a curfew. At 19 years old. Yes.

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Okay. That made me the bad one. I'll take it. All right. So I'm going to kind of back it up here

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because the police are doing their investigations and they're looking at some videos. I had mentioned

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them being at the grocery store and there was a video of the car coming up to the grocery store

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and some of the people in the car, I believe it was Crystal's boyfriend that went in to call 911,

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but backing up just a little bit, five minutes before the shooting, Robbie was sitting across

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from his own house, talking to a friend when he too saw a Ford Expedition pull up behind them.

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Remember Crystal left her driveway along with Belinda's car leaving the driveway. Robbie's

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sitting across the street talking to a friend and Robbie saw the expedition zoom by and they were

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playing cat and mouse. So from an eyewitness standpoint and all these different vantage points

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with Belinda and Robbie, um, nothing that I could find. There was no feedback on any of this, anything

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that was going on by any of the members that were in the same car as Crystal. It was just basically

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Belinda and her other son, Robbie, that were witnessing these cars kind of flying around the

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neighborhood. So police dug further and when they did, they discovered that several of Crystal's

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family members did have records, including possession and distribution of meth. So now,

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besides Belinda having a bad reputation from that false identification that I told you about earlier,

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right? The police began to wonder if Crystal's shooting was connected to her family's drug

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involvements and activities in the neighborhood. Yeah, because in an interview Crystal's mother

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openly admitted that she was doing meth and she was a drug dealer. And of course, as the police

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kept investigating, they too saw that she had been arrested for dealing drugs in the neighborhood.

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Goodness. Yeah. Now getting back to my space, Jamie began talking to a guy named Jokes, whose

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real name was William Satella and regularly went under Angel's profile. So Jokes had the hots for

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Angel, but remember now this is actually Crystal's profile picture. So he keeps talking with who he

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believes is named Angel, but Jamie had put Crystal's picture up as the profile picture.

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And soon Jokes messages went from playing the tough guy in the neighborhood, self-professed

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5150 member. He ended up moving more towards being a sweet guy who showed an interest in Angel

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as the conversations progressed. So he's letting down his guard a little bit. Now one night Jokes

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invited Angel to a party. And remember this is Jamie who's really talking to him. She's 14 years

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old. So she's starting to freak out because one, she's a catfish, but two, she's being invited by

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a gang member to a party and she does not know what to do. I don't know how I would handle that.

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There is actually a show called The Circle. Have you seen that yet? No. They have different versions

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in the United States, Brazil, and I feel like they have one for France too. Yeah. It's really

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cool because you've got a bunch of people living in a hotel and they have never met each other.

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The only way that they can communicate with each other is through a big screen TV where they're

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texting. That sounds very interesting. I think there's only two seasons right now. I'll definitely

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look it up. Oh yeah. I think you'll enjoy it. Well, Jamie's the catfish here and she did actually

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egg jokes on a little bit. She agreed to come to the party and at the very last minute she said

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she couldn't make it. Well, you know, they were trying to find out a lot of information. They

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were doing their own investigations here just as a layman because you know, we've talked a lot

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about these renegades that get on the internet and start doing their own homework. Angel said

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she could not make it to the party because she did not have a ride, but jokes came to the rescue

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and said that he would come pick her up. Now, Jamie and Belinda for some time before had been

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trying to figure out how do I get these people to tell us what kind of car they're going to drive?

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It's going to sound fishy if we just come out and say, what kind of car are you driving? Well,

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this was her opening. Jamie agreed for jokes to come pick her up, but before doing so,

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she was able to ask what kind of car he was driving and he typed back an expedition.

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Bingo. You got it. So this is all they needed and Belinda called the investigators with this

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information. It took the police a little bit by surprise because Belinda had not been telling them

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what she was doing. Well, of course not. Why not? Because she wouldn't be allowed to do it.

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That's very true. Of course, they're probably thinking her safety and they didn't want her to

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get involved in this, but they turned out being pretty impressed with Belinda's strategy to get

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online and catfish. And they began working that angle since they already knew in their investigation

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that the 5150 gang members were driving a Ford expedition that night. And they were eventually

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able to call jokes in for questioning. Well, of course he's going to deny any involvement,

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but the police were able to wear him down. Again, remember he's young, he's impressionable,

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he knows he's in trouble. So even though he's part of a gang, I'm sure he's still a little bit

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intimidated. Of course, jokes made a statement that the night of the shooting at 8 36 PM,

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just seven minutes before the shooting that he and several of his friends were cruising around the

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neighborhood when another expedition cut them off. They're just driving around minding their own

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business. And here comes that second expedition and they got cut off while they were driving.

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Well, jokes stated that the other car just stopped in the middle of the intersection and started

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shooting in his truck. Now remember at the beginning of this story where I had told you

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that one of the expeditions sped up and did a U-turn and came back. I'm imagining this is about

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the time that this is happening. And there was another person in the truck named Julio Heredia,

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also known as Lil Huerto. He gets out of Joke's truck and nobody's really sure where he went.

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But remember that Belinda had made the statement earlier that she saw somebody standing at a stop

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sign. Very intriguing. So I'm imagining it was Lil Huerto that did that. And basically after that

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incident, after he had gotten out of the truck, Joke's never saw him again after that night. In

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fact, any activity that Lil Huerto was known for in the area just completely came to a halt. There

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was no more activity on his part. He basically disappeared. Disappeared like forever? Yeah,

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he just disappeared off the face of the earth. Nobody saw him again. He took off. That's

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interesting. During his questioning Joke's admitted that it looked like the car that they had come

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up to at the stop sign, its passenger window had shattered out. So when they're playing their cat

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and mouse and he comes up on the vehicle sitting there at the stop sign, he had already seen that

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the window was broken out. And we're going to assume that is after the incident with Crystal,

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unfortunately. So in the meantime, Jamie was finding it pretty difficult at this point to

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keep up the charade of playing angel on MySpace. Just because she was still grieving Crystal's loss,

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she told Belinda she could not do this anymore. It was just too much on her. And she stepped back.

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She's just like Belinda, I cannot do this. In my heart, it's killing me to continue on with this.

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So I just can't do it anymore. So Belinda, being Belinda took over. What a trooper. Well,

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guess what? She took a little bit of a different approach on this. She wasn't the, let's just say

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she did not take a cautious approach. She began pressing the 5150 members really, really hard.

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She would drive by their houses, take pictures of license plates. And now this one kind of threw me

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for a loop because it's pretty random. She would drop voodoo dolls right in their yards. That's

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funny. Yep. I mean, is she doing this in the daylight? Is she doing this after hours? And I

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hope it's after hours because they would see her. Yeah. And how does she not get caught? Exactly.

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Well, online Belinda befriends the 5150 rival gang members. Now, remember I told you there's

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some turf wars going on. So she goes ahead. Like I said, she's taking a different approach. She

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befriends the rival gang members and begins taunting them and told them pretty much they

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were welcome to come for a visit and stated in one of her posts that I'm the one driving the

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white Ford expedition. So she is trying to set up some of these gang members. And I don't know,

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that's playing with fire. I don't, I think she's getting a little bit too close. Yeah. I totally

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agree with that. Now, let me just tell you why she's doing all this. She's a grieving mother

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and she was looking for vengeance for her daughter. And she had every intention of setting up every

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5150 gang member that she could find. And she was going to take them out one by one. She was going

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to kill them. That's, that's so wrong. I can understand her being passionate, but what does

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do in the end? Yeah. Well, the detective who was on this case paid Belinda a visit to say that there

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was an exceptionally large increase in white Ford expeditions in that area that had been shot up,

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torched or vandalized. Because why? Remember she told the rival gang members that she was the one

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in the white expedition. Detective Wheeler told Belinda, she just simply needed to cool it or

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whatever it was that she was doing because she's just continuing on doing her thing and going about

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her business in her own way and not keeping the police in the loop. So he's like, whatever it is

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that you are doing, you better stop. Now he did tell her to shut down her MySpace. Do you think

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she shut down her MySpace? Did you look her up? I did not look up her MySpace for this account. No,

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but when detective Wheeler said, Belinda, I don't know what it is that you're doing, but you better

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cool it. And I would suggest that you just go ahead and shut down your MySpace accounts.

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Do you think she did it? Oh, heck no. Belinda took it as a personal victory and started organizing

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a party under Angel's profile. She got an address off of the internet where it was a back road

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somewhere in the area. And she set it up where she was able to see people driving in onto that road,

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but they would not be able to see her. So basically she was planning to lay in wait for them and pick

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them off one by one as they drove in. That's creepy and wrong. And what would the heck was

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she thinking? I don't know if I could ever imagine that I would get away with that,

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especially when you're dealing with gang members. But exactly. So she planned on shooting every

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single one of them as they drove up, but her husband and sons knew what she was doing and

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were able to talk her out of it. Instead, she did get back on the computer and got back in touch with

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jokes. She's like a hornet at this point. She is ticked off. She is getting in touch with jokes

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and she just wrote the words, do you love me? And of course jokes answered, yeah, you know, I do.

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Well, Angel wrote back, say it jokes. I want to hear it. And he did. He answered her by saying

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that he loved her and her response to him was then why did you kill me? My name is Crystal Theobald.

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I'm the one you killed. Oh my, that's really terrifying. Yeah, for sure. What happened was

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as soon as she typed that jokes dropped off the line and never responded to what anything more

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that she typed into the instant message. Wow. Okay. So jokes did the same thing as Lil Huera

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and dropped off the face of the earth. No one saw him again. So it's typical for gang members.

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Once they feel that they are being threatened, let's just say in a legal way, I don't think that

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they would back out so easily, especially if they're up against rival gang members, right?

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I wonder where do they go? I will tell you in just a little while. Okay. Well, no one saw him again.

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And I'm assuming it's because maybe they had a code that if they were feeling threatened by

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possibly being closed in on by the police or legal matters, of course, they're going to just dip.

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Right. Right. So Belinda turned her MySpace account over to detective Wheeler after she had

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typed all that. And at this point in time, she just decided, okay, I'm done. I did what I was

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supposed to do. I have done as much as I could in this situation. And she turned over all access of

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angels profile to the police. Good choice. Absolutely. And then from that point on,

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the 51 50 gang members who were in the car, the night of crystal shooting, they were all brought

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in for questioning. And later in the investigation, another former 51 50 gang member said that there

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was a lot of rivalry going on between gangs in the area. And a second white Ford expedition showed up

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in the area to retaliate against some violence against one of their family members. So yeah,

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they were doing the cat and mouse thing, but also just coming into somebody else's turf and

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starting things, I guess. And this is pretty much how everything went down between the two SUVs,

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like I described earlier. So I'm going to talk about three vantage points here. You've got

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several gang members from the 51 50 gang in one SUV cruising the neighborhood. Then you've got

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Crystal's brother, Robbie, who's witnessing the other white SUV come tearing through the neighborhood

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and start playing cat and mouse with that first SUV. And the former 51 50 gang member explained

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that the rival gang members were the ones to show up. So no one knew of the Theobald family members.

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They were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and caught in the crossfire of two gangs.

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Now, Belinda admits that on the night that Crystal was shot, this is quite sad. She was high,

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but the good coming from this is that she has not touched drugs since this incident. And this is

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basically what Crystal had wanted the entire time. She just wanted her mom to quit. She knew her mom

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had been in and out of jail over the years for drug use and dealing. And she had just said,

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mom, please just stop. And she did, which it's sad that Crystal got in the way of that, but that is

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what happened to Crystal. And so I'm going to just briefly go over the arrests. Now remember,

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this incident happened with Crystal back on February 24th of 2006 on August 8th of 2007.

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It took everybody this long to connect the dots and search warrants were issued and local

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authorities went out to the neighborhoods on a gang sweep. The police planned a massive takedown

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of 25 to 30 homes in that Riverside area. And they arrested a bunch of people for Crystal's

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shooting. Now in Rosarito, Mexico, remember me talking about Julio Heredia, also known as

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Lil'Huero? Well, you asked what happened to him. Lil'Huero was captured by Mexican police and a

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total of eight defendants were arrested in Crystal's murder, but they were not all charged in her death.

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Some received conspiracy charges and only spent a few years in prison. Now you had asked earlier

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what happened to William Jokes Sotelo. He was the getaway car driver, by the way. He fled to Mexico

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and evaded capture for a total of 11 years. And he was captured without incident only in 2008.

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He was in prison for a total of four years. He was arrested for a total of two years. Now he was

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arrested for a total of two years because of a police incident only in 2017 in Central Mexico

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after Belinda received a tip on Facebook. You go Belinda, you're a bulldog. You're keeping up on

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top of this. Good for you that you were turning in all of these little things that you are finding

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out to the police. Good for you. Now Jokes was married with four children and working in Honest

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and thing came along and Julio Heredia, he was the shooter, by the way, at the stop sign. In 2011,

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he was sentenced to life in prison for first degree murder without the possibility of parole

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along with other charges. He received an additional 138 years to life for other crimes unrelated to

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Crystal's murder. And the district attorney initially wanted to seek the death penalty,

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but Belinda asked that this would not take place because she believed that Heredia was

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dealing with psychological issues. So there's her human spirit, you know?

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Yes. God bless her. Well, Heredia is now serving time in Sacramento, California for his crimes

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in Crystal's death. William Jokes Sotelo in January of 2020, he was sentenced to 22 years

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for voluntary manslaughter and is now serving time at the Centenella State Prison in California.

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He is eligible for parole in May of 2030 because he was considered a youth offender at the time of

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Crystal's death. His first parole hearing will occur in only a couple years, Beth. He is up for

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parole in May of 2025 because he already spent time in custody between 2016 and 2020 while he

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was awaiting trial. So he's up for parole in just a couple more years. At Sotelo's sentencing,

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Belinda made a 166 minute victim impact statement to the court and accused Jokes' family of aiding

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and abetting him for the 10, 11 years that he had remained in Mexico working on the chili farm.

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Wow. Yeah. So there you have it. That's the story of Crystal Theobald. And it's not known

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for sure if the 5150 gang still exists today, but it is possible because two former members

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were targeted in their homes in the Riverside area in recent years. I did find a link to the

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Riverside Sheriff's Department that a list of recent gang activity is there and they have a

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task force dedicated to violent crimes and gang activities in Riverside. Well, that's interesting.

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You went on and found a link. Yeah. I always seem to find these little things at the very last

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minute. I'll put those in my show notes because it is pretty neat to look. I mean, it's relevant.

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This happened back in 2006, but they have this amazing task force that's relevant today. And I

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will tell you, Belinda continues to track down criminals online because she's a renegade and even

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has her own Facebook set up in Crystal's memory called Unsolved Murders in Riverside. She does

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post old cases, but I will say that when I went to go look up this profile, because that's just what

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I do when they say that they still have a social media post out there, I'm going to go look it up.

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But I didn't see anything as far as activity from Belinda on her Facebook page since 2014. I'm sure

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she has another site at this time, but I could not find much more on the dedication page to Crystal.

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Anyway, that's the case of Crystal, Theobald, and anything to add. Thank you for sharing that with

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us. Yeah. Deb, do you have a teachable moment for us this week? A teachable moment. Recently,

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we got a flyer in our mailbox and it had everything to do of something similar to

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a neighborhood watch. So whoever it is in our neighborhood set up a social media account that

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is specific to my neighborhood. And I think this is a good idea. So we don't get out and talk to

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our neighbors very much. I don't know if you do either, Beth. This is a great way to just

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let everybody know what's happening, if they have anything suspicious in the neighborhood,

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or that's something I'm thankful that I can at least start monitoring. And I would highly

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recommend everybody starting a little social media neighborhood watch for your neighborhood.

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