1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,040 Hi everyone, this is Deb from Dying to be Found. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:12,340 Before we get started, I just wanted to say that episodes contain disturbing discussions on harmful acts and crimes against animals and or humankind. 3 00:00:12,340 --> 00:00:18,560 Recordings are not intended for young or sensitive audiences due to the content nature of this podcast. 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:34,120 Listener discretion is strongly advised. 5 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:39,400 Hi everyone, I'm Deb, your host of Dying to be Found True Crime Podcast. 6 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,360 Thanks so much for joining in this episode today. 7 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,800 I always say that it's all in our name. 8 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,000 We leave our episodes open for interpretation to our listeners. 9 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,520 If you have a storyline that you want us to cover, DM me on Instagram. 10 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,260 Then make sure you tune in every Thursday for new episodes. 11 00:00:57,260 --> 00:01:03,260 We cover both solved and unsolved cases where a criminal past could have caught up with someone. 12 00:01:03,260 --> 00:01:06,360 We do missing persons plus a whole lot more. 13 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,060 And for our new listeners, I bring in a different family member every week. 14 00:01:11,060 --> 00:01:15,620 Plus some really cool guests from my very own favorite indie podcasts. 15 00:01:15,620 --> 00:01:19,320 Today, my son Cory is here to talk about true crime. 16 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:22,720 And that means that we get a law enforcement's perspective. 17 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:33,120 And Cory, you do not even know how much of a law enforcement perspective you're going to bring today because I have a little bit of a storyline that does not include bombs. 18 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:33,920 Good, something different. 19 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,460 Definitely. So a couple of weeks ago, Cory, you and I went to lunch. 20 00:01:37,460 --> 00:01:42,400 And to me, it turned into a little bit of a work session, which I really love. 21 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:48,600 That was pretty cool. And I know you're a busy man, but any time that you spend with me is a good day. 22 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:56,460 I just have to say that during that lunch, Cory, we talked about a little segment of your adventures while you were working in the jail. 23 00:01:56,460 --> 00:02:05,000 When you first started in law enforcement and we're going to call that jailhouse rock because I know you're going to rock our listeners today. 24 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,260 Kind of throwing this at you. Are you ready to tell us a story? 25 00:02:08,260 --> 00:02:13,300 You said way back when you had a thousand stories to tell. So why not do it today? 26 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:17,300 Well, I did have one where this this guy actually tried to escape. 27 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:22,760 So this guy was not completely all there because he had shot himself and failed. 28 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,620 Oh, no. Yeah. So he lowered his IQ a couple of points from that one. 29 00:02:27,620 --> 00:02:32,720 So we had these cells and he tried to he walked out of one of them while I was doing my checks or something. 30 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,060 I was doing something in there. He tried to go through another one. 31 00:02:35,060 --> 00:02:38,820 He only had one more and then he'd be to another hallway with another locked door. 32 00:02:38,820 --> 00:02:39,860 He wouldn't have gotten any further. 33 00:02:39,860 --> 00:02:44,860 So I ran over there and I grabbed him and basically said, you know, what are you doing? 34 00:02:44,860 --> 00:02:47,960 Put it nicely. And he turned around and pushed me. 35 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:56,360 So I very, very gently put him on the ground and his shoes flew off. 36 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:02,660 And a lot of inmates saw that and they were not happy about it because he's not he's not all there anymore. 37 00:03:02,660 --> 00:03:07,060 Oh, that's sad. Yeah. But what are you supposed to do? 38 00:03:07,060 --> 00:03:09,560 I mean, he tried to escape jail. 39 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,420 He just casually tried to walk out and turned around and pushed me. 40 00:03:13,420 --> 00:03:17,360 So I took care of business. Oh, wow. OK. That was a good story. 41 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,260 That was actually better than the first story you told me, which was horrifying. 42 00:03:21,260 --> 00:03:23,220 Oh, yeah, that was terrible. All right. 43 00:03:23,220 --> 00:03:25,460 So I do have a couple of questions for you. 44 00:03:25,460 --> 00:03:28,760 First off, you're on the road now. You're not in the jail. 45 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,060 Do you miss the jail? Not at all. Not one bit. 46 00:03:32,060 --> 00:03:34,820 What are you referred to as? Are you like a beat cop? 47 00:03:34,820 --> 00:03:37,620 What do they call you? I mean, yeah, a beat cop deputy. 48 00:03:37,620 --> 00:03:39,020 Well, I'm a senior deputy now. 49 00:03:39,020 --> 00:03:42,820 Yeah, just patrol, patrol deputy, patrol officer, beat cop, whatever you want to say. 50 00:03:42,820 --> 00:03:45,060 Any kind of slang. Yeah. OK, I got you. 51 00:03:45,060 --> 00:03:49,660 OK, so you're a patrol officer and I'll refer to this term in just a moment. 52 00:03:49,660 --> 00:03:52,360 So what's your demeanor when you pull somebody over? 53 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,360 What's your demeanor? 54 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,260 I know that you told me a while back that people have actually said that you're very nice. 55 00:03:58,260 --> 00:04:01,420 But how do you perceive yourself? Do you have a good demeanor? 56 00:04:01,420 --> 00:04:05,060 Are you do you try to scare sense into people? What do you do? 57 00:04:05,060 --> 00:04:08,860 No, I'm very laid back. I kind of just mirror my personality. 58 00:04:09,420 --> 00:04:14,020 I've tried the robotic type, trying to scare people, but it's just it's not my personality. 59 00:04:14,020 --> 00:04:15,960 So I'm very laid back and personable. 60 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,120 And it actually disarms people a lot. Oh, that's good. 61 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,160 Yeah, it's a good little tool I've learned to use, especially whenever I'm trying to get some information out of people. 62 00:04:24,460 --> 00:04:27,520 They just perceive me as this very laid back, chill guy. 63 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,760 And I can usually get a little bit more out of them. 64 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,260 So you're the good cop? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 65 00:04:32,260 --> 00:04:35,820 I mean, we played good cop, bad cop by accident, and I was the bad cop. 66 00:04:35,820 --> 00:04:38,220 Really? We didn't realize until afterwards. Oh, yeah. 67 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,120 Reviewing the film? Yeah, we just went back and looked at it. 68 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,460 And I was the bad cop without realizing it. 69 00:04:44,460 --> 00:04:47,420 And the guy ended up telling my buddy, he was like, hey, that guy's kind of a jerk. 70 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:48,320 But I'll tell you everything. 71 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,660 I mean, honestly, it still worked in your favor. That's great. 72 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,420 I mean, yeah. Yeah. All right. 73 00:04:52,420 --> 00:04:58,260 Well, today we're going to be talking about a patrol officer named William Leisure. 74 00:04:58,260 --> 00:05:01,520 And he was a mild mannered cop back in the day. 75 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,360 He maintained what they called at the time his title was Officer Two. 76 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:13,560 And he played this role for 17 years in the police force beginning back in the 1970s. 77 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:19,120 As Officer Two, just so you know, this is one step above being a rookie. 78 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,160 That's like basically what my rank is. 79 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,060 So you've got deputy and you've got senior deputy and you've got corporal and so on. 80 00:05:25,060 --> 00:05:27,260 OK, I see. I don't know the story yet, 81 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:30,960 but it's not necessarily that he was a bad cop and he was kept in this position. 82 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,320 I've got a guy in my shift. He's 56 years old. 83 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,520 He's getting ready to retire. 84 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:41,860 He was a sergeant at another agency and he's just a senior deputy at our place for 15 years 85 00:05:42,020 --> 00:05:43,520 just because he doesn't want to take the rank. 86 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,660 I mean, it's anything above senior deputy would be a supervisor position. 87 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,860 Right. Which is a desk job and a lot more responsibilities. I get it. 88 00:05:51,860 --> 00:05:58,220 Well, in 1974, William Leisure married Betsy Mogul, a senior prosecutor 89 00:05:58,220 --> 00:06:00,620 in the same district where William worked. 90 00:06:00,820 --> 00:06:04,160 And the two were considered a power couple in their social circle. 91 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,660 William was dubbed Mild Bill. 92 00:06:06,660 --> 00:06:08,760 That was his nickname that he was given. 93 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,160 And I'm assuming this was probably because of his temperament. 94 00:06:12,260 --> 00:06:15,720 And Betsy ran for L.A. City attorney. 95 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,820 So she is the I'm going to call her the go getter. 96 00:06:18,820 --> 00:06:23,660 Now, Betsy didn't win the bid when she ran for that position. 97 00:06:23,660 --> 00:06:28,360 But it didn't stop her from moving up and moving forward with her career, 98 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,920 with the support of her husband. 99 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,120 After all, William had a good job. 100 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,860 He was a police officer. 101 00:06:33,860 --> 00:06:37,520 He apparently had morals or did he? 102 00:06:37,820 --> 00:06:41,620 Because we wouldn't be talking about him today if he really did. 103 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,820 At least as a public servant, though, William displayed outward morals. 104 00:06:45,820 --> 00:06:48,660 He rarely handed out traffic tickets. 105 00:06:48,660 --> 00:06:54,160 He preferred to give drivers a stern talking to kind of scaring them to ghost. 106 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,560 What was that old show that was on TV before? 107 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,660 Scared straight. So he would do that. 108 00:06:58,660 --> 00:07:02,020 And he preferred to let his wife take on the spotlight. 109 00:07:02,020 --> 00:07:05,920 In fact, he always rooted for her whenever she got promotions. 110 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,920 William, on the other hand, was just as content like we talked about. 111 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,720 There are people that want to move up through the ranks. 112 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:18,120 And he held the officer to position during the 17 years on the police force. 113 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,720 Oh, no. I mean, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. 114 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,320 I think that's pretty normal. 115 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,720 I mean, that sounds completely normal. 116 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,460 I mean, I don't I don't really write tickets. 117 00:07:25,460 --> 00:07:29,420 I do chew people out sometimes on the side of the road, but it's only to say, 118 00:07:29,420 --> 00:07:31,360 like, hey, stop going so fast. 119 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,060 You've got a kid in the back of your car. 120 00:07:33,060 --> 00:07:34,960 Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Stuff like that. 121 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,320 I mean, I've had that plenty of times. 122 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,160 And I mean, there's nothing wrong with just being a beat cop for your whole career. 123 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,020 It's really the best position there is. It's great. Oh, yeah. 124 00:07:42,020 --> 00:07:44,980 So I mean, everything that he's doing so far sounds pretty normal. 125 00:07:44,980 --> 00:07:50,320 Yeah, he led a relatively normal life, at least in the public eye. 126 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,960 Moving on, as most of us do, Corey, William did have hobbies. 127 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:00,860 He loved fixing up old Corvettes and especially liked yachting with his buddies. 128 00:08:00,860 --> 00:08:03,020 Now, this is California, so he's on the coast. 129 00:08:03,020 --> 00:08:06,560 Remember that. I don't think he actually owned a yacht, 130 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,020 even though his wife was probably doing well. 131 00:08:09,020 --> 00:08:10,060 She was the breadwinner. 132 00:08:10,060 --> 00:08:13,860 I don't think that they would have had enough funding for that. 133 00:08:13,860 --> 00:08:15,060 Probably not. 134 00:08:15,060 --> 00:08:22,060 On a cop's salary, even if she's higher up and our sheriff doesn't even afford a yacht. 135 00:08:22,060 --> 00:08:24,180 So what do you think he did instead? 136 00:08:24,180 --> 00:08:25,620 I mean, I assume he's got rich friends. 137 00:08:25,620 --> 00:08:27,760 Yeah, he sure did. Not only that, 138 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,220 but one of his hobbies was stealing other people's yachts. 139 00:08:32,220 --> 00:08:34,380 Ah, that'll do it. 140 00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:36,160 It will. There goes the morals. 141 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,720 There goes the morals. 142 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:43,480 On May 29th, 1986, William Leisure did exactly what I just said. 143 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:50,120 He and two buddies, a man named Robert Denzel Coons and another guy named Gino, 144 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,920 they took the La Vida yacht out for a joyride. 145 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,380 According to the Los Angeles Times, 146 00:08:56,380 --> 00:09:00,660 Robert Coons was a convicted bank robber who was out on parole 147 00:09:00,660 --> 00:09:03,580 when he was introduced to William through an acquaintance. 148 00:09:03,580 --> 00:09:08,220 The two took to each other rather quickly and they became bosom buddies. 149 00:09:08,220 --> 00:09:11,320 They vacationed together, went boating together, 150 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:16,980 and Corey, apparently, they stole yachts together as well on multiple occasions. 151 00:09:16,980 --> 00:09:18,920 Seems like he's got a friend with bad influence. 152 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,880 I know, exactly. Unbeknownst to William, 153 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,920 there was a low-key sting operation in the works with the LAPD 154 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,320 and Robert Coons was on law enforcement's radar. 155 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:34,480 Detectives had been working on a string of yacht thefts in the area and received 156 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:39,240 a tip that the boat that Robert and William were on was part of this theft ring. 157 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,120 Investigators decided to go up to the Marina Bay Yacht Harbor, 158 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,440 which is just north of San Francisco, 159 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,440 just to check things out. 160 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,880 They're doing their job, they're going to investigate. 161 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:55,740 As William, Robert, and Gino glided up to the docks of the Marina Bay Yacht Harbor, 162 00:09:55,740 --> 00:09:57,320 police were waiting for them. 163 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:02,640 Now, Corey, imagine the surprise on both the LAPD's faces 164 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,380 and William's face when they locked eyes. 165 00:10:05,380 --> 00:10:11,380 Remember, William worked for the LAPD and he was just approached by some of his own. 166 00:10:11,380 --> 00:10:12,380 Could you imagine? 167 00:10:12,380 --> 00:10:13,920 No, I couldn't. 168 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,480 I've had some guys we've had to get rid of, 169 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,580 but nothing super serious like that. 170 00:10:19,580 --> 00:10:21,320 For unethical behavior? 171 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,320 Yeah. Luckily, some of them have left before they became a problem. 172 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,580 Within our agency, they typically show themselves after they leave, 173 00:10:29,580 --> 00:10:31,520 but it's always crazy to see, 174 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,120 oh, wow, you are actually not the guy that you perceived yourself to be. 175 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,520 Yeah, wow. 176 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:41,220 Obviously, the LAPD was just a surprise to see William on board. 177 00:10:41,220 --> 00:10:43,640 When they told him why they were there, 178 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,980 William feigned innocence, of course he would. 179 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:48,720 He's going to say, what are you talking about sort of thing? 180 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,780 He had a reputation to uphold. 181 00:10:50,780 --> 00:10:55,480 Telling the investigators that he had volunteered to be a crew member for his friend, 182 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,640 Robert Coons. 183 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,940 In fact, William had said that he had been picked up in Long Beach, 184 00:11:00,940 --> 00:11:03,820 so he wasn't even on board for the entire trip, 185 00:11:03,820 --> 00:11:07,880 which began in San Diego and ended up just north of San Francisco. 186 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,940 If you were to look at the map, Cory, 187 00:11:09,940 --> 00:11:14,440 you can see that San Diego is way down at the bottom of California, 188 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,720 close to Mexico, and then of course, San Francisco is in the northern area. 189 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,580 They had a little bit of a trip to go, 190 00:11:20,580 --> 00:11:22,480 and not that he was backpedaling, 191 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,940 but William also dropped his wife's name, 192 00:11:24,940 --> 00:11:30,080 saying that he had no reason to steal yachts when Betsy was the breadwinner in their household. 193 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,780 But you had just mentioned that they couldn't afford yachts themselves. 194 00:11:34,780 --> 00:11:36,080 You mentioned that. 195 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,480 Yeah, and name dropping isn't my favorite thing. 196 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,040 It's kind of a cheap thing to do. 197 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,440 A lot of people name drop just to get out of tickets, 198 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,580 and I don't think it's the right thing to do personally. 199 00:11:45,580 --> 00:11:47,840 I don't care who you know, that doesn't make it right. 200 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,180 Does that keep you from? 201 00:11:49,180 --> 00:11:50,420 No, no, of course not. 202 00:11:50,420 --> 00:11:53,420 But people do it all the time just to try to get out of tickets. 203 00:11:53,420 --> 00:11:54,620 I think it's kind of a cheap move, 204 00:11:54,620 --> 00:11:58,180 because just because you know somebody doesn't make it right 205 00:11:58,180 --> 00:12:00,980 that you were breaking the law in whatever manner you were doing it. 206 00:12:00,980 --> 00:12:01,980 Yeah, so true. 207 00:12:01,980 --> 00:12:04,180 I've had people do it in domestic disputes, 208 00:12:04,180 --> 00:12:06,780 and they've tried to use the military thing against me, 209 00:12:06,780 --> 00:12:09,380 like, oh yeah, my husband's been a Marine for 20 years. 210 00:12:09,380 --> 00:12:12,420 Well, it doesn't have anything to do with what just happened right now, does it? 211 00:12:12,420 --> 00:12:13,680 Really? 212 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:15,420 I don't think it's the right thing to do. 213 00:12:15,420 --> 00:12:17,220 I don't like it. A lot of cops don't like it. 214 00:12:17,220 --> 00:12:19,280 So if you ever come across law enforcement, 215 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,920 please don't name drop. It's not OK. It's dishonest. 216 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,920 I love it. That's a great teachable moment right there. 217 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,920 William was successful in appeasing his colleagues 218 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,180 with his pleas of innocence for really, Cory, just about a hot minute 219 00:12:32,180 --> 00:12:37,420 because that third crew member named Gino, well, he's sung like a canary. 220 00:12:37,420 --> 00:12:40,720 Gino told investigators that he, William and Robert 221 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,420 had all boarded the La Vida yacht in San Diego. 222 00:12:44,420 --> 00:12:47,720 So right there on the spot, William's caught in a lie. 223 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,820 And the distance between San Diego and that Marina Bay 224 00:12:50,820 --> 00:12:57,820 yacht harbor was about 74 miles or 120 kilometers or 65 nautical miles, 225 00:12:57,820 --> 00:13:02,180 which would be roughly 100 nautical kilometers away from where the yacht 226 00:13:02,180 --> 00:13:04,820 had been docked and where it had been stolen from. 227 00:13:04,820 --> 00:13:08,680 William was quickly arrested under the suspicion of masterminding 228 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:13,420 a multimillion dollar yacht theft ring that operated out of Newport Beach. 229 00:13:13,420 --> 00:13:15,520 There you go. He got caught red handed. 230 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,740 So now I'm going to go into the investigation here. 231 00:13:17,740 --> 00:13:21,320 I'm going to ease into this just a little bit because, Cory, 232 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,180 you have no idea what's coming. 233 00:13:24,180 --> 00:13:27,780 And let's start with William's vacation buddy, Robert Toons. 234 00:13:27,780 --> 00:13:31,980 After his arrest at the Marina Bay yacht harbor, Robert told investigators 235 00:13:31,980 --> 00:13:35,680 that he had made his living on the docks as a boat maintenance man. 236 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:38,340 Remember here, he's a former bank robber. 237 00:13:38,340 --> 00:13:42,420 And do you really think that he's going to settle for making an honest living 238 00:13:42,420 --> 00:13:44,580 at that, maybe at minimum wage? 239 00:13:44,580 --> 00:13:46,980 No, not in the 70s robbing banks. 240 00:13:46,980 --> 00:13:49,520 Not going to happen. It's too easy to rob banks back then. 241 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,520 Yeah, it really was. 242 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,980 And there was a lot of bank robberies going on back then everywhere. 243 00:13:53,980 --> 00:13:56,380 It was pretty easy. Yeah, good money, too. 244 00:13:56,380 --> 00:13:59,380 I mean, not exactly like a walk of the walk. 245 00:13:59,380 --> 00:14:02,720 That's right. As Robert settled into marine life, 246 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:08,020 he quickly began to realize that he could make a killing off of stealing yachts. 247 00:14:08,020 --> 00:14:12,280 So he devised a plan with his buddy, William Leisure, to steal yachts 248 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:17,380 and sell them anywhere between one hundred thousand and two hundred thousand dollars. 249 00:14:17,380 --> 00:14:21,680 What they would do, Corey, is they would put different names on the boats. 250 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,580 You know, boats have a christened name, so they would change the names and registrations. 251 00:14:26,580 --> 00:14:30,520 And just so you know, one hundred thousand to two hundred thousand dollars 252 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,880 back in the 1970s is worth around six hundred and twenty three thousand dollars today 253 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,180 or eight hundred and forty three thousand Canadian dollars. 254 00:14:39,180 --> 00:14:41,480 So so not on a cop salary. 255 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,580 Yeah. Nope. 256 00:14:43,580 --> 00:14:49,820 Robert also told police that he and William had planned to steal yachts for just one more year. 257 00:14:49,820 --> 00:14:52,420 Then they plan to retire and never look back. 258 00:14:52,420 --> 00:14:55,780 But as we know, your luck is going to run out eventually. 259 00:14:55,980 --> 00:14:58,380 And on May 29th, it did. 260 00:14:58,780 --> 00:15:01,520 So this is where the La Vida yacht comes in. 261 00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:07,280 Robert, William and Gino sailed that yacht up to the harbor to complete a sail. 262 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,120 And this is where the LAPD had intercepted. 263 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:15,380 Obviously, police began investigating William as Robert's partner in crime here. 264 00:15:15,380 --> 00:15:20,180 I'm thinking obviously he is guilty by association with a convicted felon. 265 00:15:20,180 --> 00:15:22,720 Of course, they're going to look at him rather closely. 266 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:28,280 Why are you a police officer hanging out with a felon on a regular basis? 267 00:15:28,580 --> 00:15:31,380 Yeah. I mean, you surround yourself with like minded people. 268 00:15:31,380 --> 00:15:34,080 Yes, absolutely. That's human nature. 269 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,880 You surround yourself with people that are like you. 270 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,780 So I'm assuming that he's there's just no good reason to be hanging out with felons. 271 00:15:41,780 --> 00:15:45,780 I mean, I'm not going to go out and hang out with drug addicts and thieves and whatnot. 272 00:15:45,780 --> 00:15:47,380 But felons are people too. 273 00:15:47,380 --> 00:15:51,780 Yeah, but they have they have a certain way of making their way through life, their lives. 274 00:15:51,780 --> 00:15:54,020 And they're not going to just that's a tangent. 275 00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:56,520 Are you saying leopards don't change their spots? 276 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,480 Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically. 277 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,880 Exactly. All right. 278 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,120 So let's go back to William's reputation here for just a moment. 279 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,720 He's married to this high profile attorney in the community. 280 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,520 And L.A. is a rather large community. 281 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:16,720 So obviously, he's being portrayed as the supporting husband and an upstanding citizen. 282 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:23,380 Then he's got this nickname where he's called Mild Bill, which to me gives off the impression 283 00:16:23,380 --> 00:16:28,180 that he has an even temperament and probably a very accepting personality. 284 00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:31,880 I mean, you're not going to call somebody Mild Bill for any other reason, right? 285 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,980 Yeah, but probably comes off as a extremely, extremely boring person. 286 00:16:35,980 --> 00:16:37,280 But you could be a psychopath. 287 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,320 Who's that murderer that was a politician? 288 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,380 Oh, was it Ted Bundy? 289 00:16:41,380 --> 00:16:44,080 I think so. John Wayne Gacy was the clown. 290 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,920 Yeah, he was a politician and everyone had a really good. 291 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,420 Well, even the clown, too. Yeah. 292 00:16:48,420 --> 00:16:51,380 Even even he was perceived as a really good guy. 293 00:16:51,380 --> 00:16:53,120 Oh, yeah. Very charismatic. 294 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:59,780 Ted Bundy was the yeah, he was the one that was perceived as attractive and a good, good personality. 295 00:16:59,780 --> 00:17:01,020 I mean, both of them, really. 296 00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:05,680 Well, when you watch these documentaries, they all seem to have the same temperament. 297 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,080 Yeah. And I mean, it's a psychopathic trait. 298 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,880 They can perceive themselves as one boy one way and be completely different behind closed doors. 299 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,980 You just never really truly know how people are. 300 00:17:14,980 --> 00:17:17,680 Yeah, I guess maybe it's just a control thing. 301 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,080 They're very controlled. They're very matter of fact. 302 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,080 But yeah, to me, they come across as charismatic. 303 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,420 I watched one on Jeffrey Dahmer. Same thing. Very charismatic. 304 00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:30,120 Yeah, I'm too. And I mean, they're not stupid. 305 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:33,920 They know how people react to certain personality types. 306 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,180 They're not. I mean, they're not dumb. 307 00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:39,280 They analyze everything. They're they're paying attention of what turns people on and off. 308 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:44,780 Yes. They're going to do what they can to perceive themselves as the most normal looking person possible 309 00:17:44,780 --> 00:17:45,980 so they can just blend right in. 310 00:17:45,980 --> 00:17:49,480 I mean, so I've noticed it a lot whenever I was working in jail. 311 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:54,780 The difference between your typical thief, violent guy, drug addict, 312 00:17:54,780 --> 00:17:59,180 the difference between them and the sexual offenders is completely different. 313 00:17:59,180 --> 00:18:02,680 The sexual offenders, a lot of the time, they seem like normal people. 314 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,380 It's insane. They don't seem like the inmates. 315 00:18:05,380 --> 00:18:11,080 They were always the cleanest, the best behaved, typically better as far as personality goes. 316 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,880 Just talking to them every day stuff, but they're just different. 317 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,480 They blend in. But then when you go back and see what their warrants were, 318 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:23,080 think, oh man, you come off as this typical normal person that keeps telling me that they're innocent. 319 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,080 But you're a monster. Yeah, they're they're they're different. 320 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,380 Very and they're very calculating. 321 00:18:28,380 --> 00:18:33,380 All right. Well, interestingly enough, no one and I mean no one, Corey, 322 00:18:33,380 --> 00:18:39,480 in the 17 years that he was on the police force could say that William was of questionable character. 323 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,880 In fact, so many of his co-workers said that they would come to his defense 324 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,180 and they would give up their own badge if they ever suspected 325 00:18:48,180 --> 00:18:51,480 William was capable of what he was accused of doing. 326 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,780 By that, I mean stealing yachts. 327 00:18:53,780 --> 00:18:57,080 It's the typical neighbor saying, oh, I never would have thought he would have this. 328 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,580 He was just a normal guy. See it on every documentary, every one of them. 329 00:19:00,580 --> 00:19:04,480 Obviously, authorities were building a case against William here. 330 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:10,580 They were beginning to take a stance that he, not Robert, was the kingpin of the yacht thefts. 331 00:19:10,580 --> 00:19:12,880 So what do you think they're going to do next? 332 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,880 They're going to serve a warrant. 333 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:20,080 Once they accessed William's property, they discovered a few interesting things here. 334 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:25,280 First, they discovered several Corvettes, which I had told you that he liked to collect 335 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:30,380 and I didn't see it in any of the articles that any of the Corvettes were stolen. 336 00:19:30,380 --> 00:19:33,780 So I'm going to say that he definitely had a car collection hobby. 337 00:19:33,780 --> 00:19:39,880 Interestingly enough, they also found a fuselage from a World War II training plane. 338 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,080 Okay, who does that? 339 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,680 And how much did that cost on a police officer salary? 340 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,380 Yeah, exactly. I mean the Corvettes alone. 341 00:19:49,380 --> 00:19:53,180 Last of all, they did find parts to some stolen yachts. 342 00:19:53,180 --> 00:19:58,180 So it was at this point where William was pretty much caught red-handed 343 00:19:58,180 --> 00:20:03,280 and before investigators could verify that William had stolen property in his possession, 344 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:08,980 they began, just like you did, Cory, they began to wonder why all that stuff was there 345 00:20:08,980 --> 00:20:14,980 and how William could have afforded such luxuries with his salary as a police officer. 346 00:20:14,980 --> 00:20:18,080 And again, like you said, with his wife's earnings, 347 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,780 there was no way he should have had this kind of inventory. 348 00:20:21,780 --> 00:20:23,080 Yeah, absolutely no way. 349 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,180 So there was one more thing that they found on his property. 350 00:20:26,180 --> 00:20:31,580 While executing the search warrant, they also discovered a Ford Thunderbird in William's possession, 351 00:20:31,580 --> 00:20:35,880 which belonged to one of his other partners, a man named Robert Girard. 352 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,380 He had reported this Thunderbird stolen months earlier. 353 00:20:39,380 --> 00:20:42,080 The keys were still in the ignition. 354 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:47,780 William had been hiding that Thunderbird on his property after it was reported stolen. 355 00:20:47,780 --> 00:20:50,480 And of course, the insurance company made the payout. 356 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,580 So what happens next, you can see that this would be insurance fraud. 357 00:20:54,580 --> 00:20:56,380 And William was involved in that. 358 00:20:56,380 --> 00:21:01,480 So all these charges are beginning to stack up against William, obviously. 359 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,080 Everything that was coming to surface, he lost his job with the LAPD. 360 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,180 Further search warrants were issued. 361 00:21:08,180 --> 00:21:11,180 Only this time, police went inside the house. 362 00:21:11,180 --> 00:21:14,280 And during their search, they found a room full of guns. 363 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,880 There's nothing illegal about that. 364 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,780 I know he was probably just a gun enthusiast, right? 365 00:21:19,780 --> 00:21:21,880 Okay, so hold on. His wife. 366 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,380 Yeah. 367 00:21:22,380 --> 00:21:23,780 Are sirens not going off? 368 00:21:23,780 --> 00:21:25,880 Or, you know, I mean, she's a cop too. 369 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,580 She's not like, man, where's all this very, very expensive stuff coming from? 370 00:21:29,580 --> 00:21:31,980 You've got all these guns and cars and yacht parts. 371 00:21:31,980 --> 00:21:33,880 Like, I'm not paying for that. 372 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,180 Where's this coming from? 373 00:21:35,180 --> 00:21:37,380 Is she oblivious and involved? 374 00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:38,280 Yeah, either. 375 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,780 Well, first of all, she's not a cop. 376 00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:40,880 She's an attorney. 377 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,980 Oh, I thought she, okay. 378 00:21:41,980 --> 00:21:43,080 I thought she was law enforcement. 379 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,880 But still, still though. 380 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,780 I know, right? 381 00:21:45,780 --> 00:21:52,080 Okay, so she's either turning a blind eye or she believes him because she's married to him. 382 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,280 And she's probably, hey, honey, I just made the greatest deal on this Corvette. 383 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,180 I can afford a World War II airplane now. 384 00:22:00,180 --> 00:22:03,380 Yeah, eBay, you really get some good deals out there. 385 00:22:03,380 --> 00:22:06,180 Oh, yeah, that makes sense. 386 00:22:06,180 --> 00:22:07,180 Exactly. 387 00:22:07,180 --> 00:22:14,280 Well, during the search inside William's home, police found a little book with lots of contacts inside. 388 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,980 I'm going to call this William's Little Black Book. 389 00:22:16,980 --> 00:22:18,280 So you know what I mean, right? 390 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,880 Everybody's got a little black book. 391 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,480 Oh, yeah. 392 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,880 When detectives took a closer look, the book led them to a man named Dennis France. 393 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:32,280 Dennis was a semi-illiterate welder and longtime friend and business partner of William Leisure. 394 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:38,880 I guess my question here is how many business partners does William have in that little black book? 395 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,880 I mean, I can't imagine stealing yachts is the most simple task. 396 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,480 I feel like you need to have a couple of connections and whatnot. 397 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,180 Sure. 398 00:22:46,180 --> 00:22:49,480 Well, I mentioned that Dennis was his business partner. 399 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:54,380 But Cory, what I really meant is Dennis was a hit man. 400 00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:55,780 But okay, so wait a minute. 401 00:22:55,780 --> 00:22:57,480 He's a hit man. 402 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,380 Can we pause here for just a moment? 403 00:22:59,380 --> 00:23:00,780 Because these are my thoughts. 404 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:03,580 When I was looking this up, I mean, here we go. 405 00:23:03,580 --> 00:23:05,480 We're going to go down the rabbit hole here. 406 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,680 I'm thinking back to Brian Wells and that pizza delivery bank robbery. 407 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:17,080 You remember how his circle of friends, I'm going to say, took advantage of him because he was a simple person. 408 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:22,180 And because Dennis was maybe in the same mindset, he was semi-illiterate. 409 00:23:22,180 --> 00:23:25,380 I'm thinking he probably had a simple approach to life. 410 00:23:25,380 --> 00:23:31,080 So, yeah, you know how people get taken advantage of like that. 411 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:31,480 Yeah. 412 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:38,980 Any business dealings that William had going on and it didn't really matter if he was stealing yachts or other things. 413 00:23:38,980 --> 00:23:42,080 Everything was documented inside this book. 414 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,780 Never put in writing what you don't want repeated. 415 00:23:44,780 --> 00:23:45,280 Yeah. 416 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,080 I probably said that to you, Cory. 417 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:47,780 Yes. 418 00:23:47,780 --> 00:23:56,380 Entries inside William's little black book corroborated authority suspicions that he was indeed the kingpin in those yacht thefts. 419 00:23:56,380 --> 00:23:58,880 And this had been going on for several years. 420 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:04,280 Now, investigators still didn't have enough to go on to make a full-blown arrest. 421 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,680 But they did pull Dennis France in for questioning. 422 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:13,080 They wanted to see how much they could get out of him and point his finger towards William Leisure. 423 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:19,980 Unfortunately, though, despite his simple mental capacities, Dennis France had enough sense to keep quiet. 424 00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:21,180 He would not budge. 425 00:24:21,180 --> 00:24:23,980 He did not tell the police officers anything. 426 00:24:23,980 --> 00:24:28,080 He actually asked for immunity before he would even speak. 427 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:33,080 So the police thought, okay, well, you know, we want to put this case to a close. 428 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,980 So we'll go ahead and give him his immunity. 429 00:24:35,980 --> 00:24:44,880 And as soon as the plea deal was made, just like Gino back on the yacht when they got caught gliding up to the docks, Dennis sang like a canary. 430 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:45,880 It's not that simple, I didn't. 431 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,380 Nope, he sure wasn't. 432 00:24:47,380 --> 00:24:47,780 Okay. 433 00:24:47,780 --> 00:24:55,080 So what he had to say went much, much deeper than making a career out of stolen property. 434 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,180 Here we go. 435 00:24:56,180 --> 00:24:58,480 This is where it's going to get a little bit crazy. 436 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,780 Since I've said singing like a canary a couple times here, I've got three different chirps for you. 437 00:25:03,780 --> 00:25:07,380 Chirp number one, May 20th, 1977. 438 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:13,480 According to Dennis, William Leisure held a string of jobs outside the LAPD. 439 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:22,180 And really, we're going to be talking about, I wouldn't say that he was with the mob or anything, but it was definitely a mobster lifestyle 440 00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:33,980 because William had ordered a hit on a man named Gilberto Cervantes, a man who held real estate interest inside Elso Tortilla Factory in Los Angeles, California. 441 00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:41,580 Gilberto was gunned down in front of his home, but to this day, authorities really couldn't make a connection to William. 442 00:25:41,580 --> 00:25:48,080 However, Gilberto's daughter-in-law was allegedly attempting to take control of his tortilla factory. 443 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:57,880 This daughter-in-law knew William Leisure, and although they could not connect the two, a man named Tony De Los Reyes, a jazz band bassist, 444 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,480 he was believed to be the hitman in that incident. 445 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:06,180 He had just inherited Gilberto Cervantes' $600,000 estate. 446 00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:15,680 Okay, so he's probably looking for insurance money at this point, but I do want you to remember Tony De Los Reyes' name because that's going to come up in just a moment. 447 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,880 We're going to move on to chart number two on May 2nd, 1980. 448 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:26,380 Now, Dennis told investigators that William had ordered him to kill a woman named Ann Smith. 449 00:26:26,380 --> 00:26:29,380 Ann was the wife of one of William's close friends. 450 00:26:29,380 --> 00:26:33,480 The friend who Ann introduced William to was her husband. 451 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:39,880 So basically, Ann had taken up tennis lessons several months earlier where she had met William. 452 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:46,580 The two became friends, she introduced her husband to William, and they hit it off rather well. 453 00:26:46,580 --> 00:26:50,680 So now William is brought into Ann and her husband's mix. 454 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:59,080 Ann's husband and William start hanging out just a bit, but I do want to back up about a month here because on April 23rd, 1980, 455 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,280 Ann Smith had just filed divorce from William's best friend. 456 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:11,880 In the divorce papers, Ann had requested a split in all communal properties that included the family residence, an apartment building, 457 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,580 some real estate property in Central America, plus some sales proceeds from additional real estate. 458 00:27:17,580 --> 00:27:21,880 So apparently that couple had a lot of investments. 459 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:28,180 She requested that a 38-foot boat and a 55-foot yacht be awarded to her in the divorce. 460 00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:32,380 Plus, she was asking $3,000 a month in spencil support. 461 00:27:32,380 --> 00:27:35,180 So do you think that's a reasonable request? 462 00:27:35,180 --> 00:27:38,080 No, not at all. Find a job. Work for yourself. 463 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,780 Yeah, but I do want to just kind of throw it out there. 464 00:27:40,780 --> 00:27:45,180 Back in the 70s, there were still a lot of stay-at-home wives and stay-at-home mothers. 465 00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:46,280 Oh, yeah, certainly. 466 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,880 All that was built whenever women weren't working as much. 467 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,080 So now it's a little bit more reasonable back then. 468 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:52,780 Sure. 469 00:27:52,780 --> 00:27:54,680 Well, this is 1980 by now. 470 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,880 Yeah, you're right. It is. 471 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,180 So but still just on the, you know, on the fringes of the 70s, right? 472 00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:03,280 $3,000 a month back in the 80s. That's a lot of money. 473 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,380 It is a lot. I didn't even look up to see how much that is today. 474 00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:07,980 I mean, it's a lot today. 475 00:28:07,980 --> 00:28:10,280 Yeah, it's a lot. This is my paycheck. 476 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,080 Exactly. 477 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,280 Well, after the couple went to court, 478 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,280 Anne was eventually awarded $500 in spencil support 479 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,580 and she was allowed to stay in their couple's residential home. 480 00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:22,980 That in itself, I'm sorry, I don't get. 481 00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:25,080 Apparently, they were both living there, Cory. 482 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,980 That'll work out great. 483 00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:27,080 Yeah, exactly. 484 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,980 So Mr. Smith was ordered to refrain from video or tape recording 485 00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:34,380 his ex-wife while she was in the home. 486 00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:36,880 I'm sorry. Have to shake my head there. 487 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,980 He was also ordered to install a second home line 488 00:28:39,980 --> 00:28:42,480 and she got to stay in the master bedroom. 489 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,380 Oh my God. If you're going to get a divorce. 490 00:28:44,380 --> 00:28:48,780 So it seems like there was an issue beforehand within the home. 491 00:28:48,780 --> 00:28:50,180 Like, hey, you can't record it. 492 00:28:50,180 --> 00:28:51,780 It's like clearly this is a problem. 493 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,280 I never thought of that, Cory. 494 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,680 He was probably already doing that. 495 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,280 Okay, that's another rabbit hole. 496 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,180 I don't want to go down. 497 00:28:59,180 --> 00:29:03,580 It could just be simple conversations trying to screw her over legally. 498 00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:05,480 That's probably more so what it is. 499 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:05,980 Oh, yeah. 500 00:29:05,980 --> 00:29:06,980 See it all the time. 501 00:29:06,980 --> 00:29:08,680 But you're getting a divorce. 502 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,880 Why would you stay together? 503 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,680 Why are we staying in the same house? 504 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,880 Well, it's a nice house. 505 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,880 I assume. I wouldn't want to get rid of it. 506 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,180 I suppose. 507 00:29:17,180 --> 00:29:23,280 I guarantee what they were doing was they were trying to record each other 508 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,080 and screw each other over legally and they're going to stay in that house. 509 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,580 So the other person eventually gets kicked out of that house from settlement. 510 00:29:30,580 --> 00:29:30,980 Yeah. 511 00:29:30,980 --> 00:29:31,880 And they get to stay there. 512 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,680 I guarantee that's why they were both trying to stay there. 513 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,380 So they could each individual could keep the house. 514 00:29:35,380 --> 00:29:37,280 Yeah, screw each other till the end. 515 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Yeah, forces are dirty. 516 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,580 Yes, they are. 517 00:29:39,580 --> 00:29:41,180 After the divorce, Mr. 518 00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:45,680 Smith sold some real estate property and kept the proceeds stating that 519 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,380 Ann had a gambling problem. 520 00:29:47,380 --> 00:29:49,980 Of course, this is not going to sit well with her. 521 00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:54,980 On May 2nd, 1980, less than a month after divorce papers were served, 522 00:29:54,980 --> 00:30:00,780 Ann Smith was shot in the back while styling her own mother's hair in their beauty salon. 523 00:30:00,780 --> 00:30:03,480 Apparently a man had entered the shop, 524 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,680 grabbed Ann at gunpoint, 525 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,180 emptied the register and then shot Ann at close range in cold blood. 526 00:30:10,180 --> 00:30:11,580 He ran out the back door, 527 00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:14,580 got into a getaway car and off he went. 528 00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:16,980 Well, I guess we found out who gets to keep the house. 529 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:18,180 Wow, Cory. 530 00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:20,080 That was cold. 531 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,980 Now here's a little caveat for that. 532 00:30:21,980 --> 00:30:26,180 William Leisure called in sick the morning of Ann Smith's murder. 533 00:30:26,180 --> 00:30:27,780 All right, chirp number three. 534 00:30:27,780 --> 00:30:31,380 I had just told you to remember the name Tony De Los Reyes. 535 00:30:31,380 --> 00:30:33,380 During the discovery process, 536 00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:38,480 investigators also found that William had put another hit out on Tony. 537 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,680 He was the husband of another one of Williams' friends. 538 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,680 Oh man, I don't think I'd like to be Williams' friend because they don't last very long. 539 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,180 Nope. 540 00:30:47,180 --> 00:30:49,380 Although there was no specific motive, 541 00:30:49,380 --> 00:30:55,080 investigators believe that Tony was cheating on his wife and she had confided in William. 542 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,980 Who are these women that befriend William? 543 00:30:57,980 --> 00:30:59,680 That's not good for them. 544 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,180 William provided one of his cronies, 545 00:31:02,180 --> 00:31:07,580 Dennis France, with a thousand dollar down payment to take Tony out in a crowded bar. 546 00:31:07,580 --> 00:31:10,580 Now how he was going to go about doing this, 547 00:31:10,580 --> 00:31:11,980 I'm not really sure, 548 00:31:11,980 --> 00:31:13,780 but he was locked and loaded. 549 00:31:13,780 --> 00:31:14,980 Prisma takes you a long way. 550 00:31:14,980 --> 00:31:17,280 Dennis tailed Tony into the bar, 551 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,180 but Tony left before the job could be done. 552 00:31:20,180 --> 00:31:22,880 So I guess my question here is why, 553 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:29,280 Cory, would somebody want to take someone out with a ton of witnesses in a crowded spot? 554 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,980 How do they think they're going to get away with that? 555 00:31:30,980 --> 00:31:32,280 Can blend in pretty easy. 556 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,480 Blend in and then blend out? 557 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,780 Yeah, there's a shooting at a school that happened not too long ago 558 00:31:37,780 --> 00:31:42,180 where the shooter just blended in with the crowd as everyone was running out. 559 00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:43,080 Oh no. 560 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,680 It's easy to do. 561 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,780 No one's paying attention. 562 00:31:44,780 --> 00:31:47,880 You hear gunshots, everyone freaks out and runs, you kind of just blend in. 563 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,680 Oh wow. 564 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,380 I mean, I think I've seen that in enough movies where they get really, really close, 565 00:31:53,380 --> 00:31:55,380 they do the job and then they disappear. 566 00:31:55,380 --> 00:31:56,280 So I guess you're right. 567 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,580 They are, you know, blending and if they're in a bar, there's a lot, 568 00:31:59,580 --> 00:32:02,280 it's probably loud, the music's playing. 569 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,980 Yeah, no one's paying attention. 570 00:32:03,980 --> 00:32:05,480 Yeah, exactly. 571 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:05,780 All right. 572 00:32:05,780 --> 00:32:07,480 Well, here's the tough part. 573 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,480 William had apparently been just around the corner from where Tony was taken down. 574 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,380 He had even been following the entire event when Tony left the bar. 575 00:32:17,380 --> 00:32:21,880 William had advised Dennis to take Tony down and make it look like a robbery. 576 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,480 So, I mean, what's going on? 577 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,680 Ah, I wonder if he had walkie talkies because he's a police officer. 578 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,680 So he probably does. 579 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,280 I know they had walkie talkies back in the 70s. 580 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,880 Yeah. 581 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,480 Yeah, even if it's just a walkie to walkie. 582 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,680 A walkie to walkie? 583 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,280 Did you say walkie to walkie? 584 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,080 What is that? 585 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,180 Yeah, it's like walkie to walkie. 586 00:32:40,180 --> 00:32:43,480 So like our channels are connected to a tower. 587 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,280 So they have more distance. 588 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:51,780 So our radio waves will connect to that tower and then bounce off that and go to the next radio or wherever. 589 00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:53,880 So you can get a lot more distance. 590 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,680 But if we were to go outside of the area, we have to use walkie to walkie. 591 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,680 So the radio waves just bounce from one walkie talkie to the other, one radio to the other. 592 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,780 So that's how that works. 593 00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:04,080 Yeah. 594 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,180 Interesting. 595 00:33:05,180 --> 00:33:05,880 Okay. 596 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:15,080 As Dennis approached Tony, who was completely unaware that he was being followed, Dennis shot Tony in the middle of traffic before he disappeared into the night. 597 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,280 So he just kind of came up on him, did his job and off he went. 598 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:28,280 Back in the police station, while Dennis is giving up his business partner, William Leisure, charges against William are beginning to fall into place. 599 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:35,880 I think at this point, Corey, the police officers were wondering what in the heck are we getting here? 600 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:42,980 Because we offered you immunity, but we had no idea that you were going to tell us this much. 601 00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:45,580 Yeah, this guy's a crime boss. 602 00:33:45,580 --> 00:33:48,680 At this point, William is already behind bars. 603 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:56,280 But for obvious reasons, he's isolated from the inmates because you know what inmates think of cops behind bars. 604 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,580 In fact, William Leisure was held on a special floor in Los Angeles County. 605 00:34:01,580 --> 00:34:11,380 He was held in the same facilities as other corrupt police officers, as well as famous celebrities who I'm not going to say get special treatment. 606 00:34:11,380 --> 00:34:18,080 But you know, and I know that celebrities still get a spa treatment when they're put behind bars. 607 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:18,580 Certainly. 608 00:34:18,580 --> 00:34:18,880 Yeah. 609 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:25,880 Not that there's anything wrong with celebrities getting special treatment, but I really do hope they're humbled by making a dollar an hour. 610 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,680 You know what I mean? 611 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,180 Yeah, I mean, you're still in prison, but it's probably more so like an isolated thing. 612 00:34:31,180 --> 00:34:39,480 Just I see why they do it because people are going to know who they are and they're going to try to say, hey, you better send, especially now, 613 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:45,380 you better cash out this amount of money to my buddy's account or else we're going to beat you up or whatever. 614 00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:48,180 So, I mean, I see why they do it at the same time. 615 00:34:48,180 --> 00:34:49,380 It just I don't know. 616 00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:50,880 Yeah, and they would have to. 617 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,380 It's kind of their responsibility. 618 00:34:52,380 --> 00:34:55,980 If they're going to lock them up, they're still going to have to protect them. And I understand that. 619 00:34:55,980 --> 00:34:56,680 Absolutely. 620 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,780 Yeah, same with cops. 621 00:34:57,780 --> 00:35:03,080 I mean, we've had we've had cops in our jail and they change agencies. 622 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:08,580 They like they'll go to a neighboring County if they're arrested just because they probably arrested some people within that County. 623 00:35:08,580 --> 00:35:11,080 But yeah, they have to separate them completely from everybody. 624 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,180 Yeah, absolutely. 625 00:35:12,180 --> 00:35:16,580 Well, Dennis France brings up all sorts of criminal activities. 626 00:35:16,580 --> 00:35:24,880 William Leisure was eventually fired from the Los Angeles Police Department, which I had mentioned for being in possession of that stolen vehicle, 627 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,680 which was the Thunderbird that had been reported stolen, insurance fraud, etc. 628 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,080 He had charges for the stolen yachts. 629 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:38,480 And last but not least, he was charged with the deaths of Ann Smith and Tony De Los Reyes. 630 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,280 It took another three years before William would have his day in court. 631 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:55,780 On April 19th, 1991, a witness testified against him, stating that William had paid him $3,500 US dollars to kill Ann Smith in 1980 because she was divorcing one of his best buddies. 632 00:35:55,780 --> 00:36:04,180 He had also paid his hit man $1,000 to off Tony De Los Reyes at that bar in 1981. 633 00:36:04,180 --> 00:36:11,580 The District Attorney's Office of Los Angeles County charged William Leisure with one count of conspiracy to commit murder. 634 00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:15,680 Another count for murder for the intent of financial gain. 635 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:25,680 William pleaded not guilty to all of these charges, but was sent to trial with the possibility of the death penalty, although the jury at the time did not recommend it. 636 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:32,580 In fact, Corey, the trial ended in a 10-2 hung vote in favor of conviction. 637 00:36:32,580 --> 00:36:38,180 In order to find him guilty, the jury did need a unanimous vote, which didn't happen. 638 00:36:38,180 --> 00:36:40,680 So the case ended in a mistrial. 639 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:50,280 When William was retried, he pleaded guilty to second-degree murder, and he was sentenced to two life sentences with a minimum of 15 years behind bars. 640 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,980 He was granted parole in August of 2021. 641 00:36:53,980 --> 00:36:56,180 So he's out there in the streets. 642 00:36:56,180 --> 00:37:04,480 During the initial stages of these trials, Robert Coons cut a deal for a 10-year sentence for the yacht theft. 643 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:11,480 His sentence was reduced to two years in exchange for pleading guilty to his testimony against William Leisure. 644 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,080 So there you have it. 645 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,480 This is where we come to an end of William Leisure. 646 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,780 Or, as we know him, Mild Bill. 647 00:37:19,780 --> 00:37:22,280 I have something to say about this wife of his. 648 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,780 Oh, yes, please. 649 00:37:23,780 --> 00:37:28,080 I mean, I honestly did not see very much in the articles that I read. 650 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,780 I didn't see very much on her. 651 00:37:29,780 --> 00:37:31,480 She didn't see very much either. 652 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,980 What was she doing? 653 00:37:32,980 --> 00:37:34,580 There's so much going on. 654 00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:37,380 He's clearly cheating on her, and he's this criminal mastermind. 655 00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:38,480 And where is she? 656 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,880 Like she's paying the bills too. 657 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,180 And she's like, well, there's all these Corvettes I'm not paying for. 658 00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:46,680 There's this stolen vehicle and all these yacht parts that I'm not paying for. 659 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,980 Where is she? 660 00:37:47,980 --> 00:37:49,480 Is she that oblivious? 661 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,780 I don't know. 662 00:37:50,780 --> 00:37:51,880 That's a great question. 663 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,180 She's an attorney. 664 00:37:53,180 --> 00:37:55,880 She's smart, but she's just not that smart, clearly. 665 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,580 Yeah, I don't know how to answer that. 666 00:37:57,580 --> 00:37:58,880 That's a great question. 667 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,280 I can't imagine her. 668 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,680 I mean, because I think he was, I would assume he was having an affair with that and woman. 669 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,280 So there's a lot of things just going right over her head. 670 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,780 You know, now that you say that, I'm pretty sure he was. 671 00:38:10,780 --> 00:38:13,480 He seemed to befriend women a lot. 672 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,080 Yeah, I mean, a lot of money, a lot of power, clearly. 673 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,980 I mean, he's most certainly having affairs. 674 00:38:18,980 --> 00:38:19,680 I don't know. 675 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,380 I'm thinking just from the timeline, they were probably married for eight years 676 00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:27,580 when he was caught doing what he was doing. 677 00:38:27,580 --> 00:38:30,680 So, you know, for the first eight years of their marriage, 678 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:36,280 William was stealing yachts and doing all this crazy stuff with his little black book. 679 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,280 That is nuts. 680 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:37,780 You're right. 681 00:38:37,780 --> 00:38:38,580 I mean, I don't know. 682 00:38:38,580 --> 00:38:40,280 I don't know where her mindset was. 683 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,880 If she was a city attorney, you know, she probably had a lot on her plate 684 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,580 and she probably worked long hours. 685 00:38:47,580 --> 00:38:47,980 I don't know. 686 00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:51,280 Really, what I was thinking too is, I mean, she's probably going to be working a whole lot, 687 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,380 especially working in LA. 688 00:38:53,380 --> 00:38:56,580 But still, that's just so much that's going around you 689 00:38:56,580 --> 00:38:59,480 and your personal life that you're just completely overlooking. 690 00:38:59,480 --> 00:38:59,980 Yeah. 691 00:38:59,980 --> 00:39:02,580 I don't know if it's just will for ignorance or what. 692 00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:03,780 Well, that's, I don't know. 693 00:39:03,780 --> 00:39:04,980 That's a mystery. 694 00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:09,580 If any of our listeners have anything to add, absolutely DMS on Instagram. 695 00:39:09,580 --> 00:39:10,780 This guy's running a mob. 696 00:39:10,780 --> 00:39:11,780 Exactly. 697 00:39:11,780 --> 00:39:12,680 All right, Cory. 698 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,080 So that is William Leisure, also known as Mild Bill. 699 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,880 Oh, and your thoughts. 700 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,880 So, mom, what are your teachable moments for today? 701 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,880 Oh, well, I've got a teachable moment for you today, Cory. 702 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,680 Just from mother to son, I know that you are on the good side of the law, 703 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,780 but I do want to say something to you here and I'll start by telling you. 704 00:39:33,780 --> 00:39:36,380 I don't know if I've ever said this to you before. 705 00:39:36,380 --> 00:39:40,680 Your sister Shelby is in finance and when she got her degree 706 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,680 and she started working in that field, I told her 707 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,280 and I also told your cousin because he also has a finance degree. 708 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,280 You have got to be ethical because when people start working with money, 709 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,880 they can turn greedy. 710 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,580 You always hear about this white collar crime, right? 711 00:39:55,580 --> 00:39:56,780 Same concept here. 712 00:39:56,780 --> 00:40:01,180 So here this teachable moment for you today is that 713 00:40:01,180 --> 00:40:04,380 I want you to stay on the right side of the law. 714 00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:08,280 Believe it or not, Cory, I have a friend whose husband was fired 715 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,980 from the police department because he was caught in a string of wrongdoings 716 00:40:12,980 --> 00:40:15,780 and internal investigations were called in. 717 00:40:15,780 --> 00:40:17,680 You do hear about dirty cops. 718 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,380 So my teachable moment to you is to tell you to continue on working 719 00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:23,680 on the good side of the law. 720 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,980 You're one of the good ones. 721 00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:26,580 So stay that way. 722 00:40:26,580 --> 00:40:29,980 Yeah, I mean it really sucks because I mean we've we've dealt with them 723 00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:33,080 and you know, we have psychological exams and everything, 724 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,980 but it can only do so much because I've worked with guys that it's rare. 725 00:40:36,980 --> 00:40:39,580 These dirty cops are rare, but they do happen. 726 00:40:39,580 --> 00:40:41,480 They just get highlighted in the news, especially, 727 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,780 but you can't always tell because we had one guy that I thought was genuinely 728 00:40:44,780 --> 00:40:50,180 a really good guy and he did something really dirty and we were kind of all on his side. 729 00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:53,880 We were kind of irritated with the way that he was being treated by the higher-ups. 730 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,780 The higher-ups that I actually truly trusted and I thought I've always backed up. 731 00:40:57,780 --> 00:41:00,880 Turns out this guy had been lying to us and these higher-ups that I had trusted, 732 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,180 I should have trusted them wholeheartedly in the first place, but you just never know. 733 00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:06,380 You really never know how people really are. 734 00:41:06,380 --> 00:41:09,080 And I mean, there's bad people in every every line of work, 735 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,280 but just law enforcement. 736 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,880 It's just in such a bad position right now that it's really being highlighted. 737 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,080 Every little tiny mistake that's being made. 738 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,180 Absolutely. 739 00:41:17,180 --> 00:41:19,380 It's not a good time to be in law enforcement really, 740 00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:21,580 but I hate that it is the way it is right now. 741 00:41:21,580 --> 00:41:23,580 So you feel like you're under the microscope? 742 00:41:23,580 --> 00:41:24,380 Oh, certainly. 743 00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:26,780 I get recorded. I get phones in my face all the time. 744 00:41:26,780 --> 00:41:28,080 I don't mind when people record. 745 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,480 It's reasonable. I'm recording also the whole time. 746 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,580 It's just whenever the phone is in my face when it's disrespectful and it's irritating 747 00:41:34,580 --> 00:41:37,380 because typically if the phone's in their face, then they're trying to amp you up. 748 00:41:37,380 --> 00:41:40,580 But I mean, it's one of those things you just have to brush it off or stay professional. 749 00:41:40,580 --> 00:41:42,680 Get through it and afterwards you can... 750 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,880 Talk about how much of a jerk that guy was to your buddies. 751 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,980 As you book them and fingerprint them. 752 00:41:47,980 --> 00:41:52,380 No, it's not even... It's just minor stuff like where where no one's going to jail. 753 00:41:52,380 --> 00:41:55,880 I mean, I could... I could be stopping somebody over for just a headlight out or something 754 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,680 and they want to stick a phone in my face. 755 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,580 What's the point of this? 756 00:41:58,580 --> 00:41:59,780 I mean, you're not... what do you... 757 00:41:59,780 --> 00:42:01,780 You're just talking yourself into a ticket, you know. 758 00:42:01,780 --> 00:42:04,580 I don't write tickets, but you know, that's a good way to do it. 759 00:42:04,580 --> 00:42:05,780 Yeah, absolutely. 760 00:42:05,780 --> 00:42:06,480 All right. 761 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,780 And I mean, I think that's the best way to do it. 762 00:42:08,780 --> 00:42:10,380 It's the best way to do it. 763 00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:12,780 Yeah, absolutely. All right. 764 00:42:12,780 --> 00:42:15,580 Well, that is the story of William Leisure. 765 00:42:15,580 --> 00:42:21,580 We would love to receive feedback from our listeners on this storyline or any of our other episodes. 766 00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:24,880 Be sure to DM us on Instagram and let us know what you think. 767 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:30,680 If you have a storyline you'd like to hear, be sure to check out our Linktree account in our show notes 768 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,880 where you can find an episode request form or our social media websites and a little bit more. 769 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:41,480 If you are a True Crime podcaster and want a chance to join me on Dying to be Found the Dash, 770 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,080 DM me on Instagram and let's talk. 771 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,280 And there we go. 772 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,380 We are done. 773 00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:48,480 Thanks so much for being here, Corey. 774 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,180 I always love spending time with you, whether it's virtual or in person. 775 00:42:52,180 --> 00:42:54,780 So we will talk to you soon. 776 00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:55,780 Bye, everyone. 777 00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:58,080 Thanks for listening to Dying to be Found. 778 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:03,380 Before we go, we would love for you to leave a review on your favorite podcast platform. 779 00:43:03,380 --> 00:43:09,080 Be sure to follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and Pinterest at Dying to be Found. 780 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:14,180 You can access our website, email, social media, and storyline request form 781 00:43:14,180 --> 00:43:17,680 by clicking on our Linktree account found in our show notes. 782 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:24,180 If you like our episodes, consider buying us a coffee at buymeacoffee.com slash Dying to be Found, 783 00:43:24,180 --> 00:43:26,380 spelled just like you see it on our logo. 784 00:43:26,380 --> 00:43:31,580 Feel free to message us on Instagram and let us know how we're doing or if you'd like a sticker. 785 00:43:31,580 --> 00:43:36,580 With that, be sure to check us out every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. 786 00:43:36,580 --> 00:44:02,580 We will talk to you all next week.